/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

lol

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>29952307
So aside from debut buffed Myth and Haachama not that many people actually reclined significantly, interesting. Definitely expected more given the amount of doomposting I see about numbers, but I guess this board is very EN focused.

>NijiEN inclining
>NijiJP stagnant/slowly reclining
>NijiEN above NijiJP
Only proves my point
Even with all that support JP branch is a fucking joke and its now bleeding livers

>>29952618
Holy shit! HoloEN is crashing into the ground.

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>112,507: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>45,884: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>45,004: Lize (Nijisanji)
>36,603: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>32,894: Pekora (Hololive)
>29,591: Miko (Hololive)
>28,594: Marine (Hololive)
>27,624: Salome (Nijisanji)
>24,879: Hololive (Hololive)
>22,641: Miko (Hololive)
>19,894: Polka (Hololive)
>16,366: Fubuki (Hololive)
>15,908: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>13,407: Towa (Hololive)
>13,002: Fubuki (Hololive)
>12,698: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>12,376: Akina (Nijisanji)
>11,784: Fubuki (Hololive)
>11,255: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>11,157: Iroha (Hololive)
>10,669: Koyori (Hololive)
>10,613: Kaela (Hololive)

does this fag want for people to shit on enna, like he straight up asked if irys can get an 8k on karaoke, like what the fuck

>>29952578
>NijiEN can do the job NijiJP cant

>>29952500
Dont kid yourself, the moment nijien gets over 50 livers they'll be an actual joke that everybody will make fun of because theyre such an unsustainable company.

FUCK OFF, SUSAN. Stop recommending 3views to me when I'm listening to my wife sing.

>>29952578

Best collab I've seen

>>29952441
Myth wasn't just buffed. The group was mega buffed by several factors. The first EN group, after Aloe effect, tons of clipwatchers at their disposal, during peak Covid period etc etc

>>29952685
Probably early 2024, if people don't start graduating at some point.

>>29952718
Can't even get an 8k like Enna, what a joke

>>29952658
8k is like the average IRyS stream and she usually gets overlapped by Mori not to mention im pretty sure she gets higher on karaoke.

>>29952708
She's great, one of the best vtubers I've seen. Really creative and talented.

>>29952718
At least use a proper fucking site so people can see what they are streaming.

>>29952708
She's pretty good, but I only watch her singing streams.

Median of Peak CCV, July 2022
>>29729405 :: Top 50
>>29732525 :: 1k plus
>>29734193 :: complete
>>29735091 :: kaigai

True average of CCV, July 2022
>>29738677 :: Top 50
>>29738842 :: complete
>>29739223 :: kaigai

Be friendly

>>29952642
Yeah and with NijiEN rising its only a matter of time til they overtake them the same way HoloJP dethroned NijiJP. Whats even more funny is that there are a lot of similarities between HoloEN and NijiJP
>both were the top
>both only rely on 1 person whiel the rest slacks off using that popularity
>both got lazy and uncreative
>both relied on gimmicks to much
>both cant retain their tourists
>both getting dethroned by the underdog

Are Mumei or Ina doing a POV for Fortnight?

Don't think this was discussed in here. Another Indie tuber announced their graduation around 2 hours ago.
https://twitter.com/fenriruvt/status/1554882930559750144

>>29952708
she's not bad as far as 3views go

>>29952578
Actually amazing for a 5 years old chuuba to be able to maintain 3k viewers. Come back when your chuuba celebrate her 5th anniversary and see how many of her viewers are still there, if she's not graduated first.

>>29952818
>HoloJP dethroned NijiJP
good joke. Nijisanji is a household name in Japan. Nobody even knows who Hololive is.

Is chart anon still around? Is there a version of the Nijisanji waves like he did for the individual Hololive generations?

>>29952852
We should keep a list

>>29952871
Stop living in the past last samurai

>>29952850
Mumei no. Ina is a tossup.

oh shit what, is it indies graduation time already

>>29952718
They should graduate everyone below Enna

>>29952850
No Mumei POV again...I wonder why she hates putting up her POV in collabs.

>>29952852
She's in wave 7

>>29952852
And it looks like every video was nuked from both Twitch and YouTube

>>29952852
That makes three
https://twitter.com/GezuDayo/status/1552300602532798467
https://twitter.com/RyeProject/status/1554169416119554048

>>29952852
Seems she is reincarnating as well from her follow-up tweet.
https://twitter.com/fenriruvt/status/1554883045496279040

>>29952968
In this case it's because she has a stream after.

>>29952852
Is she chinese?

>>29952618
Top 35? Where's the top 20 of Holo JP or top 5 of Holo EN or top 3 of Holo ID?

>>29952968
Because she's smart and knows that will kill her average ccv. If only IRyS did that.

>>29952966
>both getting 4k in overlap hell doing a regular stream
Thats actually pretty good especially when you consider that minecraft is a debuff for selen since she's more known as a fps liver by the casual viewers

>>29952970
2.7k followers on YT, 8,1k followers on Twitch - too low for Anycolor

>>29953006
4 actually Mai Melody announced graduation earlier today.

countdown until nijisanji releases the elsuna wave with 12 members for maximum potential?

>>29953006
They're all in wave 7

>>29952736
I suspect 2023 is when theyll have that many. They love to accelerate instead of bringing in new people who will stay within the ecosystem. Im around 90% sure that the people in NA or anywhere else in the West that get turned onto the idea of a VTuber go to a Holo or an Indie (maybe a smaller corpo too) and if they see a niji and go to one of their streams get instantly turned off and go elsewhere.

>>29953090
Not with these follower levels

Is wave 7 this close already? Or is a small corpo putting a new gen out soon? because all the graduations seem very mid for EN3

>>29952852
Only been around since Feb. Sudden graduation. Seems to know Spanish and be mildly ESL? I'd guess Wave 7.

>>29953079
Rookie numbers!
ACCELERATE!
MORE LIVERS!

>>29952852
Anyone got any clips or videos of her? seems to have purged all her channels already.

>>29953051
Wave 6 was meant to get big sub content creators in order to test the waters. Wave 7 is wave 6 rejects, remember? So that means these are the 2view and 3views who got passed in the initial sub filtering process who Nijisanji wanted to debut but didn't want to do so with wave 6, the experimental wave
If wave 6 does well, they'll keep looking for more 100k+ subbed talents. If wave 7 does well, they'll keep going after indies

>>29953127
They already picked wave 7 along with wave 6

>>29952852
My rrat is that someone from NijiEN management got a scoop on when EN3 will debut so they're scrambling to find indies so they can debut them as part of wave 7 on the same week as EN3.

>>29952618
>>29952818
>releases new wave
>HOLY SHIT LOOK AT OUT INCLINING AVERAGES
Neck thyself.

>>29953079

>>29953171
How would someone in Nijisanji get insider info on what cover is going to do?

>>29953168
God, I cant wait for another wave of 1 ok streamer and 5 shit tier streamers

>>29953157
Just write her name in YouTube.

yeah, im sure any "won't hire anyone below 100k subs" color will hire a sub 3k subs

rye would probably cause some friction if she got into wave 7.

>>29953104
They only have 26 now, they're not gonna add 24 more in 16 months. Probably....

>>29952610
it's actually kind of incredible that HoloJP is still very close to that super rona buff level.

Any suspicious graduations big enough for EN3?

>>29953246
>>29953163

>>29953163
Question is, were Iluna "main" group, or were they rejects and next wave will be with real winners

>>29953171
Wave 7 is likely in the same pool of applicants as wave 6 going by how nijien has been hiring.

>>29953253
LMAO

>>29953288

>>29953230
Kson...

>>29953285
Historically size of a creator has not mattered for Cover. Just looking at who they took in for Tempus, some of those guys were 2-low 3 views.

>>29953301
Iluna was the experimental wave. Wave 7 will be Luxiem tier

>>29953171
wave 7 will have 200 vtubers because they are blocking all the indies from EN 3

>>29953193
>JP cant even incline with Ranunculus an Voltacion debuts
>Meanwhile EN easily can
Say a lot about the branch when they can take advantage of a debut and incline

>>29953288
not reading your fanfic

>>29952653
the status?

>>29953230
Kiara...

>>29953285
Not really but this most recent girl that got posted could maybe qualify, at a big stretch. Seeing as Bae got in the standards might be a bit lower now.

>>29953340
Just as Iluna was? If they chose more fleshtubers for wave 7 then it's dead in the water

>>29953253
Holy based

>>29953377
bots

>>29953230
With Rushia gone that's a tough one.

>>29952886
>Is chart anon still around? Is there a version of the Nijisanji waves like he did for the individual Hololive generations?
Which one of the charts? I plan to update this one as it's a month old or so

>>29953380
Why would Pomu tell Kiara about new waves and why would Kiara then go to upper management about it?

>>29953339
You can't use Holostars to gauge anything. We don't even know that any big creators even applied to them other than Magni if you consider him big.

>>29953400
They're not fleshtubers. Wave 7 is an indie wave. Niji is toying with the idea of what market to expand in. They went with fleshtubers for wave 6, now they're going for pure indies for wave 7. Whichever one performs better will be the pool that they draw from in the future

>>29953239
NTA, but there's literrally 3 clips of her

>>29953392
Bae had been a corpo before though.

>>29953260
HAH, you would think theyd be smart.

Did you guys manage to identify any of Iluna before they were announced

>>29953339
Better to look at the girls rather than stars.

>>29953461
proof next thread?

>>29953056
Nice
>>29953171
Interesting

>>29953474
Yeah, a very very small one.

>>29953488

>>29953480
2 of the guesses in the rrats nest were accurate

>>29953461
why do you keep saying this, are you an anycolor employee or something

>>29953486
I mean it is the same story with the girls in HoloX and Council/myth. Some of them have gotten in despite not having a large viewer base like Bae, Ame, and Kyori.
I just used Tempus since it is the most recent, and seems to have been handled similarly recruitment-wise.

>>29953377
double gold

>>29953486
Well, Bae was kinda on the low end, but maybe she should't be used as ana example with her current numbers

>>29953474
She might have applied with her VA account as well which surprisingly did better than her corpo acc

https://youtu.be/8sLXFAdJi_c
Your retort, /#/?

>>29953480
Depends how soon before debut you're talking about. Kyo doxxed everyone a few days before. Ren's the only one I saw anyone mention say, more than a couple weeks before, and even that was very infrequent as more of a longshot guess. The most common guess for wave 6 was.....Magni of all people.

>>29953357
NijiEN can share that fate once they ACCELERATE to NIjiJP numbers.

>>29953470
9 if you use #fenriru

>>29953461
I like this rrat

Will this end up in another Mumei/Magni situation where nijisisters ritual post a certain someone will join niji only for the them to debut in holo?

>>29953480
Before they were announced? No, but they all got identified after the intial teaser and before the debut. None of them were in consideration before that because they were mostly fleshtubers.
If you search the Tempus PLs, though, 3 of them were discussed months ago as potential Niji wave 6 hires

>>29953577
Oh he's doing more baseball tonight?

>>29953595
anya cute!

>>29953595
>slacker mentality
as expected

>>29952852
>late august
Alright EN3 copers you can piss off til next month

>>29953614
And many anons predicted orc cyclist to get in, just didn't expect him to get his current avatar

>>29953595
I like Anya but that's just cope from someone who hasn't ever been able to have much success and hasn't really tried to either.

>>29953662
There was a dedicated ritual poster for Vesper in /NijiEN/as well.

>>29953595
i enjoy stuffs

>>29952850
It doesn't matter because Fauna will be dead last regardless. They're actually probably not streaming to help her.
>Not even 1k waiting with an hour left
Useless

>>29953662
they are just saying they will join holo/niji regardless of suitability to every graduation

>>29953595
She's not wrong. A lot of /#/ hates numberfagging vtubers because you get retards like Mysta.

>>29953669
Still can't get over them believing Nowa of all people would do well in nijisanji.

>>29953614
Wasnt that also the same case for Noir? I saw a bunch of threads with his pl as guessing for stars

I think Tokoyami Towa will be in EN3.

>>29953702
No you're right, I mean him, not Magni. he was the one Niji En thread kept begging to join them for months.

>>29953777
Yeah it was Noir not Magni, I got confused.

>>29953765
>A lot of /#/ hates numberfagging vtubers because you get retards like Mysta.
More like /#/ hates Mysta since he can defeat Holo and have a good ccv compared to holoen numberfag who was retarded

>>29953623
Thanks anon, hope someone saved some more, so we can cook some rrats when she getrs in

>>29953808
But she's in EN1

>>29953808

>>29953733
Anon she literally just said she doesn't care though. You said it yourself she doesn't try, and that's because she doesn't want to. Which is fine for her.

>>29953614
>The most common guess for wave 6 was.....Magni of all people
No way. The by far most common guesses before their voices and models was known was Aruvn and Chimon. And both were wrong

>>29953808
Nah I think Tokyo Tower gonna join tho.

>>29953773
People say he's sort of like Fulgur content-wise. Fulgur doesn't do amazing but he makes enough to pay his bills for sure. I can't bring myself to ever watch Fulgur to say if it's true or not.

>>29953891
Its fine for her since she's related to the owner

>>29953919
Fulgur has over 5000 members. He's fine

>>29953808

>>29953614
I think at the moment Tempus started tweeting, everyone found rest of them

>>29953808
i heard sio is coming back as en3. She spent the last two years perfecting her english accent. rbc better watch out

>>29953873
Your posts are boring, anon. Either get better bait or just stop.

holy shit fungus 5k members flew over my house

Imagine if EN3 is a group of /k/chuubas.

>>29953808
Tokina Towa is not a streamer she is the devil

>>29953976
If you wanna doubt me, check how many emotes he has. He has the maximum amount (54), which you unlock from having 5,000 members

one of the en3 chuubas will literally just be gura doing a scottish accent

>>29953977
/k/, /fit/ tomboy autistic hags

So what do you think will be the major announcement on Council's 1 year anniv stream 3d model or alternate outfits

>>29953969
But he recently won the en tally though

I'm surprise people forget here about vshojo they only reveled the japanese members so the en ones should be coming soon. Perhaps in October which mean we could see nijisanji wave 7, en3, and the new members vshojo debut back to back

>>29953919
Seeing how Fungus played Disco Elysium, I can see a few similarities.

>>29954045
who would apply to that trash fire after the nux drama

>>29954016
5,000 members, assuming it's in real money and not ARS, is about $7,500 income per month, pretax. It's good.

>>29954045
>so the en ones should be coming soon
anon...

>>29954045
>en3 is going to mog nijien and vslutshow
Feels good to be a holochad

>>29953480
Make sure to check splits like wvt, asp, and lig for leaks like this >>28256286

>>29953051
esl of some kind.. can't really pinpoint the accent.

>>29953662
Most likely. The nijitards have become so cocky now they think they have the lock on enjoyable chuubas to watch.

>>29954035
Outfits maybe, I think they hold off on 3D until the next concert to get foreigners to pay for a 2-day ticket. Will be Council and ID2 3D.

>>29954105
how much is it after tax and the 50 cut?

>>29954105
It is. I don't know a single Council or Myth member with 5k members besides Gura

>>29954035
MERCH! But hopefully casual outfits since 3D is off the table since they can't even fly myth in.

>>29953688
Do slackers have a longer lifespan than "tryhards" for a lack of a better term? It seems perfectly healthy so long as she's streaming and enjoying herself and the community she's built while earning a few bucks.

>>29953733
Can you expand a little by what you mean? How can she be coping if she even hasn't even bothered to try?

>>29953741
stuffs

>>29954045
I don't think anyone is confident that En Vshoujo expansion is even real, after all the people that would make sense for them to hire say they got rejected (except for Haruka). Seems to be stuck in limbo.

>>29954156
Someone who hopes for another chuuba streaimng in Euro hours
>Kiara
Except her

This
>A SONG WITH CRUNCHYROLL HIME HERSELF, HOLOEN DESTROYED
Shit is the most hilarious thing Niji has come up with yet. It's like bragging you're collabing with a VerseN girl at the Sony expo or some shit.

>>29954212
I really don't know what compels you anons to come larp as retards.

nguyen really is number poison, isn't she?

>>29954234
Thank china for that and the new 10 variants they just released

>>29954255
How many emotes do the Myth girls have?

>>29954045
>I'm surprise people forget here about vshojo
kek, there is a reason for that.

>>29954261
Just wait for the Z, easy podium after that!

>>29954045
Why does Vshojo even reject all the Vshojo adjacent applicants if they're not a corpo, but a merch selling, tech providing label? :*)

>>29954153
funny that he turned out okay-ish to actually decent in the end

>>29954261
fuck off nijishill

>>29954254
It serves as good bait tho, I unironically got pissed at how retarded it sounded, so much so that I almost replied.

>>29954045
Because they are fucking irrelevant and are mogged on their own platform by what is effectively Korean Hololive?

>>29954291
DELETE THIS RIGHT NOW

>>29954212

>>29954254
NijiCope 2022 edition is already rivaling NijiCope All-Time edition

>>29954045
>people forget here about vshojo
Both talent and management has been at odds with regards to the new talents and with the kson and notrushia backlash I dont see that fight dying down any time soon

>>29954290
Fauna hasn't even used as many slots as she'd get from the number of members that joined her day one
You can't infer anything from this

>>29954400
That's fair, I was wrong about Ina
How about Mori, Ame, and Kiara?
How about Council?
I know for a fact Fauna doesn't have 54 emotes. Neither does Kronii, Bae, Mumei, or Irys

>>29953433
This but only for Nijisanji's waves.

>only 101 people waiting for ina with 40 mins left to go
I dunno why the fuck they play fortnite, none of them seem to really like it or understand it, and its viewer poison

What happened to fauna schizo, is he still around?

>>29954171
That is after Susan and anykara cuts. otherwise it would be more

>>29954496
They haven't used all of the slots they have so this is absolutely useless information for estimating
>>29954427

>>29954261
Remember to drink your gay/lesbian/himbo/bimbo/he/him/she/her/xe/xem/lem/ler/they/their/up/down/here/there/in/out/trannyfag/dilation juice anon!

>>29954557
He camps in this thread 24/7 waiting for fauna to stream.

>>29954533
Memes bro

Just woke up. Did Vesper mog Kiara?

>>29954290
It's only useful if they're proactive enough to actually get emoji slots filled, anon.

>>29954212
All HoloENs except maybe Bae has well over 10k members

>>29954316
I find this really fucking weird, isn't there adjacent people that actually got rejected?

>>29953128
Does anycolor require experience? Cover does and if she only started in feb that's when the applications should have been happening

>Ike in Asia primetime: 10K CCV DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
>Ike in EU primetime:
Swedish streamer btw

I think EN3 is going to mainly consist of non-vtuber content creators because most indies are painfully mediocre

>>29954496
While not my Oshii, I'm pretty sure Irys has 5k members - maybe Mori had that number during 1st year, but after all yabs and almost no streams I wouldn't be suprised if that number is lower now

>>29954496
You don't have to use all the emote slots.

>>29954291
KSON... HAHAAAAAA. I give zero fucks about her now. She fell so fast after she she joined vwhorejo alongside Rushia. She had to know Rushia was poison right? She does, and doesnt give a fuck, thats why shes suffering so hard. Befitting of an actual whore though I guess.

>>29954572
I'm also basing this off the number of likes each liver/chuuba has on their membership content. You're right that it's not 100% accurate, but it's a good estimate, since individuals who are membered are significantly more likely to 'like' content as they're more involved with their streamer

>>29954496
Mate, what makes you think they'll fill up the emote slots the moment they have enough? Stop being a dumbass.

>>29954496
Kronii easily had over 5k members around her debut. I think I saw numbers from chat parsing that put her above 10k. From my research on IRyS numbers and things she's said she's probably around 5k (although she hasn't done any interesting member content and hasn't streamed as much recently so it might have affected that count)

>>29954683
Any idea what she was doing before becoming a chuuba?

I haven't been paying attention to Elira, what the fuck happened? Is it just because of the horrible game?

>>29954533
Ina just put up her POV.

>>29954496
They don't use their slots instantly. Most of them are just sitting on them and add something now and again, like Ina with Tako council or Fauna with her new mascot emotes.

>>29954700
>EU primetime
anon...
>>29954719
Speaking of which, how's Not Rushia doing?

>>29954742
It's like part 8 of an omega debuff game. Also it's only 23 minutes in, so there may be room to incline?

>>29953850
it was both Noir and Magni

>>29954212
IRyS has atleast 3k and she's literally one of the members that put out the least amount of member content. yes i am membered despite the lack of content because i just want to support my oshi

>>29954724
why are you retarded

>>29954683
They both require content creation experience but that seems to be a very broad category. Finana's experience was FFXIV ERP so.....

Here is an update on that
>30 days true average CCV
chart

Here are the highlights
1) HoloJP now lives in its own universe, with their true average nearing TWELVE K (12k)!
The only time they got that high since 2021 was during Coco graduation and during HoloX debut
2) HoloEN is returning to their baseline after the massively buffed off collabs + Kiara bday live + Sana graduation. Let's see if they can stabilize at 9k in the next few weeks
3) NijiEN, after inclining back to the 4k line (a line thei crossed during the excellent May and Jun 2022) reclined a little bit, likely as consequence of the waning debut buff of the new gen
4) Despite the poor FPS season with APEX beind a dud and Valo and LOL not being able to float the box up, the VSPO girls found a way to stay afloat at their current high water mark, with new ouftits, internal (and external) collabs and MonHun.
5) NijiJP (as a whole) is at a holding pattern, mostly because as their heavy hitters get a massive incline out of Koshien, it seems to come at the cost of the little guys.
That and the fact their FPS streamers are, along with the rest of that box, stagnated because of the poor APEX season

and
6) HoloID inclined the fuck out. If Anya and Iofi continue increasing the roof of the branch they'll soon catch up with VSPO and NijiEN

>>29954343
I mean people here think ccv is the endgame yet they don't realize is that english streamers have low ccv. Pokimane the top female twitch streamer on average get around 20,000 ccv per stream. Valkyrie is in the same boat is in the 20k range. The reasons why these two streamers are up top is connections. Pokimane owns evo and valkyrie collabs with famous celebrity's.

>>29954533
Fauna just wants to live out her fantasy of being an edgy ninja, and she roped the other girls into it.

>>29953777
I think the general sentiment being that he join nijiEN since no one had any idea if starsEN were even going to be a thing when he graduated (at least enough to actually get acceptable applicants)

>>29954569
pretty sure its 3750 after all the susan and anykaras cuts plus taxes and thats assuming they were using burger money and hes living in burgerland

>>29954700
>>29954742

>>29954724
Likes are better, member polls for games are the best because they get the most engagement.

>>29954724
>individuals who are membered are significantly more likely to 'like' content as they're more involved with their streamer
You can back this up with numbers, no?
Only a small fraction of people will ever click the like button. Ever. If a chuba has 1k likes, chances are that's not even a 10th of her membership.

>>29954778
>Speaking of which, how's Not Rushia doing
Hovering around 6k for most of her recent streams.

>>29954853
>it seems to come at the cost of the little guys.
nijisanji in a nutshell

>>29954700
I keep forgetting that he is swedish, also it's 11.30 PM now

>>29954742
Shitty game and her audience has heavy overlap with Pom and Selen who are holding like 7k people hostage.

>>29954740
Well, she scrubbed almost everything about her from social media, so maybe she was in some small corpo before?

>>29954778
>Speaking of which, how's Not Rushia doing?
Just reclined below 6k peak last stream.

Based on her tweet and on the behaviour of the kaigai audience she might be quite literally on suicide watch

>>29954105
How did you get 5000? any proof?

>>29954936
Ouch...

>>29954742
Part 100 of debuffgames + overlapping with Selen, Pomu and the first Ike Aia collab

WHY IS IT TAKING SO LONG, PEKO!!?

>>29954976
She also streams on YouTube as Micheal cat, right? I think financially she not in a bad position, but mentally...

>>29954966
>>29954016

>>29954962
>Just reclined below 6k peak last stream.
She was playing Tsugunohi which doesn't have much interest for the Twitch audience. She'll be back up at 7k when she plays Mario Kart or something.

>>29955000
countdown stream tomorrow, i belieb

>>29954707
The latest Mori's CD sold for more than 10k. Getting 5k membership is nothing compared to that.

>>29954914
Not him but logical deduction, if you are willing to pay for something and go through that process it would probably would mean that you were likely to like particular streams and posts, especially since you get notified and can even like the posts from that notification on your phone.

>>29954874
This shitty collab was her fault? Oh who am I kidding of course it fucking was. Wants to drag everyone down to her garbage level

>>29955045
>>29954427

>>29954962
She deserves this for trying to go the fucking GFE route again. She might actually commit sudoku at this point, unironically. Hope all those EOPs were worth it.

>>29954496
Gura hadn’t even use all of them until this last bday …

>>29954853
Hey Anon, appreciate the work as always.
Quick question are you planning to add HolostarsEN in the future if their numbers keep up?

>>29954914
Who don't know what % of people will like membership posts, but we can assume they would be consistent across streamers. So if Gura is getting 15k likes and Ina is getting 5k Gura *probably* has roughly around 3X as many members. Obviously some things can skew this such as one streamer putting out a lot more member content or posting a lot more, giving people more reason to be in the member tab and interact with things there.

>>29955000
Marine's growth thanks to the concert+MV combo is fucking crazy holy shit
100k so long after debut is insane

>>29954705
Hololive always brings something new to the table while catering to hardcore fans. It's quite refreshing.

>>29955088
I mean she easily could've lost most of those members because she's trash and even if fulgur is trash they actually take gift subs unlike that dumb bitch who keeps them off

>>29955088
>>29954724

>>29954966
Going off what they guy said based on the emote total.

>>29954724
This also consistently massively under-counts, it only provides a floor, just like emote slots
Gura at one point had more than 15,000 members going by likes btw

>>29953051
>>29953163
this is false. while many of them had 100k subs, they were also streamers and 3view just like the others. Its really not much different than Millie and Reimu who had 100k subs but streamed as 3view or 2view

>>29953595
She's correct for her. And any chubba should not numberfag openly unless they are comparing it to themselves. like "I want to get higher on this ranking". It's a personal thing and not something that is all consuming.

In regards to the other stuff, I watch my oshi, I play games, I watch anime.. And I compare numbers. It's part of the hobby. What I don't do however is breaking containment making it easier for Anya and other's to experience said numberfagging.
If a chubba comes /here/ then it's kind of their fault if they find things they do not approve of.

>>29955000
Marine is too strong.

>>29955100
GFE vtubers still rule vtubing though. Look at Lamy. No vtuber can survive off greyfag views, they need members.

>>29955000
I hope all the Nousagi in this thread are on suicide watch. They've been awfully quiet lately after Peko kept taking L after L. Deserved after how cocky they were. Imagine Peko rust getting mogged by fucking morning radio exercises.

>>29955071
>if you are willing to pay for something and go through that process it would probably would mean that you were likely to like particular streams and posts
Logic also dictates that people might think that being a member is enough of a support since likes wont put food on your chuubas mouth but membership will

>>29955071
I have never once received a notification from YouTube about a member post

>>29954496
Kronii has 5k+ for sure.

Damn YT algorithm, you for real right now?

>>29955257
I do from time to time, but it's unreliable as fucking hell and usually i get notified by posts and not member streams

holoEN finally gets 3d and even a graduation and offcollab arc
Almost no inlcine.
Explain

>>29955226
I think every member of Iluna had at least 100k subs - it implies some kind of cut-off, in which case currently gradutaing chuubas have no chance to get in

>>29955236
Didn't this girl go menhera after seeing her viewers ditch her for HoloX and sending her goodbye supas? Nene too iirc.

>>29955294
>a literal 1 view

>Cover suddenly has Lost Epic permissions now
So they really don't like overlap huh

>>29955241
Suffering defeat after defeats...that's bunny's body was nearing its limit

>>29955236
Yeah, but it doesnt work well on EOPs and the general Twitch audience if you arent teasing your holes every stream.

>>29955267
>1k likes
>4.9k votes
>Average poll response rate is 35%
This is a good indicator of why counting likes is not good for estimating, only for determining an absolute minimum

>>29955352
>Anti
>Clipfag
Name a more iconic duo

>>29955257
Sometimes I randomly get them in my timeline. Sometimes I don't. Youtube's member system is garbage, usually I don't even get a notification when those streams go live, even though I'm literally paying youtube for the privaledge of watching them.

>>29954724
Likes are only accurate to establish a hard Floor. Just as an example, Fauna gets around 800 likes for most of her member post, but got 1.7k for the art she posted right after the most recent one.

>>29955294
>1 view
>4 hour vod
WHAT THE FUCKKKKKKKKKKKK AAAAAAA

>>29953595
I completely agree, a lot of the chuubas I watch don't exactly get the best numbers. I just like it here because I'm autistic and numbers are fun.

What set off the faunaschizo? She hasn't even started streaming.

>>29955317
3d doesn't incline you? Like, why would it buff normal streams. Look at Holox.
And its not like they can do it whenever.
Not even gonna touch on the graduation shit, baffling to suggest it'd boost them outside of the collabs they did with Sana.

>>29955294
Holy

>>29955374
>EOPs
>Streaming 6pm JST
????

>>29955294
Wait until you see those 0 views recommendations.

>>29955414
>>29955267
>>29954791
Alright, a lot of you have convinced me. I didn't understand why they wouldn't just add emotes to coincide with their number of members. Somewhat autistic, please forgive me

>>29955369
?

>>29954724
i found an old poll for Kiara with over 4k votes, her membership streams have 700-900 likes
so not really

>>29955369
What do you mean?

>>29955317
The only EN that would unironically get a buff from 3D is IRyS since she'd be more involved with actual concerts whether it be solo or collabs like with Sora's birthday.

>>29955317
Anon, compare how does HoloJP 3d reveal looks like vs. HoloEN looked like.
If not for Ame, HoloEN would be without 3d to this day

>>29955294
Saving this to reply to those nijibeggars.
Do you have some more?

retracing the cover's EN hires so far,
Are these graduating indies have the quality that cover is looking for?

>>29955465
You know damn well what her actual audience is at this point, EOP savior fags.

>Ina already passed Fauna in people waiting for her stream
Imagine being so worthless

>>29955317
There is/was an incline but you don’t incline by doing things people don’t care for, i.e. playing apex when you were supposed to do a vr stream.

If you’re talking about the drop in true average, bro Gura had less than 10 streams last month. If Miko and Pekora stopped streaming you’d probably see a fat decrease in JP’s average currently too. It just comes with the territory of having your absolute biggest hitter MIA

How many likes do Finana and Reimu get on their member posts?

>>29955620
Her chat is almost entirely Japanese, retard

>>29954884
>3750
If he gets it all in USD, which is obviously not true he gets the majority in other currencies but lets pretend, then those 5k members mean $25k precuts and pre tax. And no one knows the exact cuts anykara takes, but the most common one seems to be half of the post the Susan 30% cut. So 35% is left and that is $8.75k USD. Where in the US do you get that boned by taxes that 8.75k becomes 3.75k after taxes?

But of course it is impossible to know hos actual take home because we first of all dont know the currency make up of his members and second of all the maxed out emotes just mean that he has minimum 5k members, and he has had them maxed out for months. So who knows of he has 5001 or 10k members now

>>29955657
>Finana
Do you really belive someone in /#/ would member her?

>>29955633
t. sapling

>>29955046
I understand the reason for her numbers, it's the misfit with the audience as you said.
She had higher hopes for the kaigai audience tho, thought she could replace the JOP she lost in the kerfuffle.

She was wrong and the faster she realize that the least she'll suffer with the unavoidable recline

>>29952307
holy shit, I understand october was a BUFFED month for haachama since thats when she came back from her suspension, and had a 90k outfit reveal at the time but looking at her numbers back then holy FUCK she was pretty much aqua level
I can't believe someone would ruin themselves this badly, there was no yab or anything like which makes it more impressive.
she's a fucking retard for choosing to go to college, I will never stop seething because of that
imagine if we had 2020 haachama nowadays...

>>29955633
You're right. She's so worthless that we should use her as the line instead of Sana from now on. Agreed? Good. That's settled.

>>29953006
Gezu seems kinda... a bit out there for holo? And Rye seems to be generically cute anime voice girl her singing is cute so i wouldnt mind.

>>29955516
>>29955537
Take a look at the art and consider who just graduated.

>>29955617
I don't think so, they all seem like generalist streamers that aren't especially well-known for anything. It's not impossible, see Bae for example, but seems unlikely.

hey anons look what ive just found
natural graph I swear!

>>29954557
Here you go lad
>>29953752
>>29955633

>>29955657
Saw someone post a Finana one some time ago, was under 100, but don't really feel like going archive diving.
Might be able to ask over in /NijiEN/ if you phrase the question right.

>>29954719
Bad news anon, her old average CCV was ~2-2.5k and she's had about a dozen 5k+ streams since she joined. Her twitch average is up too.

>>29955142
>Quick question are you planning to add HolostarsEN in the future if their numbers keep up?
I already did, and StarsJP as well. Hid them in this chart because the sample is too small for it to be meaningful

Rikuchama!?

>>29955715
fuck off, crossposter.

>>29954254
anon you didn't need to drag down VerseN like that...

>>29955701
There's a chance someone got a gifted sub from watching a Finana st......ok yeah, you're right.

>>29955617
two of them seems to be a decent/good at singing. Or they had a nice voice to the short parts I listened to. The other two I have no idea, seems like one of them already almost nuked all content.

>>29955744
Stop being a vague retard.

>>29955711
Nijisister you should go back to cleaning the toilet.

>>29955778
this is so fucking shameless holy shit

>>29955776
Ah cool, look forward to seeing it when there are more samples.

>>29955672
>And no one knows the exact cuts anykara takes
corpos tend to take 50 and some nijifag the other day said that nijisanji the company relies on sc earnings so im assuming its in the 40-50 range too, unless youre a heavy hitter in sc like vox who has likely reneged that

>>29955746
damn watch out for that tidal wave

>>29955778
First the King graph and now this shit.

>>29955810
Talking about gifted subs, those nijigirls who has severely dropped in superchats recently, do they have any amount of gifted subs instead?

>>29955672
You know which coast fulgur is residing? I could do a quick calculation based on the federal tax and the different tax rates across each state

>>29955778

>>29955672
Genuine question does Youtube remove emote slots like Twitch once you fall below the membership threshold?

>>29955753
I remember that one. It was 1k, but anon that ordered them from highest to lowest, lost a 0 at the end for Finana.

>>29955778
Nijifags explain this graph challenge
Level: Impossible

>>29955509
Good emotes are hard to make. Ina,a professional illustrator who is known for blinding speed, needs an 1-2 entire stream to make like 6-8 emotes. You can buy them of course but it's not that easy to just come up with 50 interesting emotes that are readable at that size. Some just don't bother

>>29955778
the fuck

>>29955743
Gezu has rigging skills. Assuming she were accepted, that might be what got her noticed

>>29955778
The fucker painted Pikachu with his graph.

Honestly I am confused at why a Faunaschizo exists. She's so inoffensive that the most that catalog antis can come up with is that she's "boring".

>>29955657
Idk but this is Mel. That watchalong in the pic has 1k likes and 771 for the illustration

>>29955778
Tower...

>>29955778
Batman

>>29956065

>>29956011
I've heard they do, yes. Not sure how it determines it, if it lets you pick which ones or just removes the 5 most recently added.

>>29956065
kek

>>29954856
Pokimane has clout because she was one of the first truly big (i.e.10k+ ccv) female streamers and is super family friendly (making her good for ads). Pokimane isn't really as successful of a streamer as she is an "influencer". Pokimane is one of those people that is popular because they're popular. You can't really use Pokimane or Valkyrae to undermine CCV as a metric because they're both exceptions to the rule. For 99.9% of streamers, CCV is the most important metric (especially on twitch where it heavily biases you for discoverability).

>>29956085
You know when someone's made it when they have a dedicated schizo.

>>29956085
Makes more sense when you realize it's not just a Faunaschizo, it's the same group who antis Nazuna and Laplus. Seriously autistic roasties who think they can astroturf /vt/ enough to make people hate hololive.

>>29956042
Why the fuck would they recruit a rigger to be a streamer?
I mean I can see limited amounts of niche content you can make as a rigger streamer, but its not really what anyone NEEDS in their corpo.

>>29956019
I literally can't. Even with bots which is the obvious explanation that is one weird fucking graph

>>29956085
She and Mumei have had antis since they debuted because of roommate shit. Don't think he can let go and since she's doing better....

>>29955778
Nijis should be disqualified. Between this and King it is pretty blatant.

>>29955778
well it's obvious which peak Tallyanon will use.

>>29955228
>What I don't do however is breaking containment
Oxymoron aside, this is important when you want to numberfag and do it in a productive/healthy way.

So we have a shitty mc collab with pomu and selen
A shitty fortnite collab on holoen
A shitty portal collab with ike and the other sjw
A shitty valorant collab with shu and co.
Which only leaves luxiem collab and mukei karaoke as source for numbers from en side today.

Here is the comparison between yesterday and today's Fuwa chart.

Whatever happened today is Luxiem tier of bizarre and not easily explained for a 15 min stream

>>29956065
kek

>>29956042
Getting hired for rigging seems weird like what could she even do

I can't believe they're still doing the autistic "half of this single POV game stream is on my channel, than the other on your channel" thing JUST to escape Omega's 1 hour stream shit. I mean at the point where your streamers are maliciously complying with your request, why don't you just drop it?

>>29956254
>Fix gura

>>29955778
FUBURAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>29956200
if tally anon acts like a retard again we'll just fix it ourselves, again

>>29954853
thank you true average anon, you're a boon to the thread

>>29955778
My explanation (non bots) is that so many people filtered in at the same time with middling internet that the views kept lagging, as well as this dude having pretty spotty internet. It's similar to Vesper's miniature Zs that occur due to Youtube lag, except on a massive scale since instead of 6k viewers, it's 45k viewers

>>29956281
lmao

>>29956178
They are switching gears from an artist that won't draw to a rigger that won't rig

>>29955778
So Niji win this month? Peko can't even compete it looks like, this is daily 50k every day guaranteed.

>>29956228
That is a lot of debuff

>>29956200
Lmao, this man is legitimately going to win August for Nijisanji. That's actually hilarious

>>29956229
Okay it's obviously fucky but is this a bot vs botsweeper battle? I really am having trouble figuring out a good explanation for that fucking graph. Did Susan's robo-jannies finally find enough patterns in Niji ccv to start dropping the hammer like they did on King's stream?

>>29955778
Assuming this will be relevant for the tally, are those uh....Zs? I'm pretty sure the 2nd one is. Is the first just a Z during a steep incline so there's no dip afterwards? What would the true peak be? 37k? 38K?

>>29955778
>Riku: Stream is live! Activate the Z
>Flunky: Yes sir! Z activated
>Riku: CCV status?
>Flunky: Peaked at 46k sir! Z is now reclining!
>Riku: Damn...Just short. We need that 50k. Activate another Z!
>Flunky: S-Sir?
>Riku: You heard me damn it! Activate another Z! Now!
>Flunky: B-But sir. Another Z so soon after the last one might tear the entire stream apart! We don't know the consquences!
>Riku: You're dismissed officer
>Flunky: Sir, please...
>Riku: You're dismissed! Get off my bridge.
>*Riku pushes the private off the console and mashes the "Activate Z" button with his palm*

>>29956268
It might unironically still be a good thing for their channels. Makes for shorter more digestible vods and forces viewers to go to each channel.

>>29956380
Yeah around that area 37k 38k just by eyeballing it

>>29956303
Nah even though the baseline is higher it should have the same overall shape. Nowa's graph didn't look anything like this. Pikachu's ears are huge, and then the fucking plunge to the base of the tail is also massive, looks nothing like minor connection issues.

>>29955778
This is so blatant and scummy.

>>29956371
On the assumption it is not bots (because it being bots is the obvious conclusion and deserves no further thought) it could be the other way around: the CCV verification system disengaging, showing the present but unverified listeners, then reengaging and forcing a new verification

>>29956352
This is metagaming /#/. I do legitimately think Niji will win August now based off these numbers

Wave 9 will really be the end of HoloEN. Just 5 more days, tick tock

>>29956228
Yeah the EN schedules the past couple of days have been fucking abysmal.

>>29956303
the ears are too huge even by that nowas scuffed stream standard

>>29952852
Pan vtuber (Philipino) is graduating too

>>29956544
Wave 7 for sure

>>29956496
How embarrassing for hololive.

>>29956371
>>29956489
might be a combination of the 3 Bot vs Bot sweeper vs Verification disengaging and then reengaging

>>29956544
Sounds like a prime nijien candidate

>>29956496 (me)
Especially if you follow the trend for last year where each stream inclines until about a week in, then stabilizes. I could legitimately see daily 70ks for the rest of August

UUUuuuuuUUUuUUuuuUUU

>>29956672
Please don't post midgets in this thread.

>>29956669
I don't think it was botted last year.

>>29955778
>>29956065
lmao

2.5k for watson
3.8k for ina
3.6k for fauna
Waiting rooms

>>29953873
Get MAGGED mysta faggots

>>29956380
38k yeah

>>29956544
I thought niji tosses out SEA applications unless they live in NA then nvm

>>29956638
Every year it is expected that Nijisanji will win Summer (because of Koshien) and December and every year it didn't happen was a surprise.

>>29956734
I don't think it's botted now. I know the graphs look weird as shit, but why would Nijisanji risk using bots and getting completely demonetized off Youtube over a horse race that only /#/ cares about?

>>29956281

>>29956742
Vrabi seems to have caught 4k for Fauna, but waiting rooms are always kinda messy in multi-PoV collabs.
On another note, why the fuck does every HoloEN collab spend 5+ minutes on the loading screen ffs.

>>29956793
ok, Noor.

>>29956742
>Ame actually below Fauna
I expected it but it's kinda sad to see. Can Fauna even play FPS games?

>>29956765
This just proves that hololive can't compete with the big boys any more. Should we match them against phase connect from now on? Leave the main tally to Nijisanji and VSPO.

>>29956489
But the real question here is, why does it happen so frequently for niji but not that often for holo? Or others for that matter.. maybe we need some data from fleshtubers.

>>29956028
IRyS also said she will add more emotes after her redesign or said something along the line of that.

>>29956832
Fauna usually has sub 3 minute but it's a collab so she's probably waiting on the others.

>>29956793
Stock price

>>29956871
*yawn*

>>29956862
>Ame actually below Fauna
Well deserved

>>29956858
I mean you can call me whatever you'd like, I'm just looking at the numbers and trends from last year. Between this and Koshien, I think Hololive loses August

>>29956544
>Pan
I actually know the reason for that
Classes going back to face to face means that she has less time to stream

>>29956876
Fauna is pretty much the most punctual EN for solo streams. Most of her loading screens seem to be sub 1 minute.

>>29954853
And here is the same chart, but with HoloEN and HoloJP removed to make the rest of the branches inclines and reclines visible to the naked eye.

In this cut it is possible to see both the stagnation in the past few weeks from Nijisanji (even with Mayuzumi graduation being so big, the same with Koshien streams) and the massive incline by HoloID.

>>29956742
Everyone seems to expect only Fauna to have tolerable audio over in global so it might lead to some interesting shifts.

>>29956994
>HoloEN and HoloJP removed to make the rest of the branches inclines and reclines visible to the naked eye.
brutal

>>29956793
IDK but they've seemed to have done it for Salome, the Niji EN wave 6 debuts, and now Kuzuha's baseball thing. There's a tendency to keep pushing things if you can get away with them. Is this really botted? Probably not, but it does look weird as fuck.

>>29956994
>it is possible to see both the stagnation in the past few weeks from Nijisanji
jp is stagnating even with that graduation and koshien streams huh

Anyway, enjoy the doomposting. Sorry if this thread becomes unusable for the next few weeks, turns out Minato understood the real /#/ meta

>>29956672
Funny thing about this image is it's the highest most liked/retweeted image that artist has ever made. He struggled to get 1k for most of his shit, even when he drew other holos like Ame, but this one has 60k+ likes. Good for him.

>>29956994
grim

Bilibili viewfarms got up early today

The VOD views are stuck in verification hell now, let's see where they'll fall in 24 hours.
Previous one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aD5okh2k5c
is with 377k now in 24 hours or so

>>29956793
>getting completely demonetized off Youtube
pretty sure you cant get demonitized or banned of youtube for bots since that urban youth streamer is still using it along with those elon musk shillcoins and they havent been demonetized or banned

>>29957068
Niji jp has too much shitters and looking at luna it will be a similar story

>>29955778
I don't think it's even possible to pretend this is remotely useful information any more
People are numberfagging seismographs and random number generators

>>29956994
do you have nijiEN males and females separated, i was curious how each one is doing.

>>29957330
That aligns with the view count imo. So either you have to assume Nijisanji is using bots for literally everything (unlikely imo) or that Youtube verification is fucked

>>29957158
I wish Fauna got more lewds

>>29957333
cryptoscam channels do get banned and create new ones, but thats because they are running literal scams.
normal streamers like that black guy blatantly using viewfarms do nott get banned, that part is true