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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*>https://playboard.co/en/>http://ikioi-ranking.com/>https://vrabi.ml/>https://www.vstats.jp>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-rankingHololive sites>https://holo.poi.cat/>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html>https://trackholo.live/en/Nijisanji sites>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly>https://twitter.com/2434rankings>https://twitter.com/2434subscriberTwitch>https://sullygnome.com/>https://twitchtracker.com/>https://stats.roki.sh/Full list athttps://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *Here it goes>112,507: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>45,884: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>45,004: Lize (Nijisanji)>36,603: Sasaki (Nijisanji)>32,894: Pekora (Hololive)>29,591: Miko (Hololive)>28,594: Marine (Hololive)>27,624: Salome (Nijisanji)>24,879: Hololive (Hololive)>22,641: Miko (Hololive)>19,894: Polka (Hololive)>16,366: Fubuki (Hololive)>15,908: Mysta (Nijisanji)>13,407: Towa (Hololive)>13,002: Fubuki (Hololive)>12,698: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>12,376: Akina (Nijisanji)>11,784: Fubuki (Hololive)>11,255: Kanae (Nijisanji)>11,157: Iroha (Hololive)>10,669: Koyori (Hololive)>10,613: Kaela (Hololive)The second highest stream for Kuzuha so far and his only second 100k+ stream too.
>>29937234most are 15k IDR which is pretty much a dollar.
>>29937097EN actually doesnt need to rely on gimmicks to incline as you can see in the numbers. And once koshien ends JP will be back to being irrelevant outside 3 people. Since none of the others are inclining unlike in the EN side and Salome is just spiraling downwards.
>>29937303Too bad he had to use nefarious means to achieve it
>>29937303IT'S SANYA TIME!
>>29937303I guess Hololive is nothing without Gura streaming.
>>29937234It's 1$ minimum retards, also >>29937175
>>29937356>EN actually doesnt need to rely on gimmicks to incline as you can see in the numbers.What numbers? Show the numbers, where is it?
>>29937303GOOOOOOOOO
Anyone got source for this version of Polka's sc song? https://youtu.be/nCe3OUT-qLQ
>>29937427Always nice to see hard work paying off.
>>29937404NijiEN beforeSelen -- 3kElira -- 2.2kPomu -- 1.6kFinana -- 1.5kRosemi -- 1.2kPetra -- 800NijiEN nowMaria -- 5kEnna -- 4kSelen -- 3.5kPomu -- 3.2kElira -- 2.8kRosemi -- 2.2kMillie -- 2kPetra -- 1.5kNina -- 1.4kReimu -- 1.3kFinana -- 1.2k
>>29937303Anyone without Sanya or Kuzuha lewds, posting kneels is good fine too!>KING, I KNEEL!"Silverboy", they said!
>>29937234Penny over the dollar is the minimum.Kobo viewers, being a more traditional streamer watcher, gets to see their message pop up on the stream, which makes it much more appealing compared to a superchat.
>>29937404It got revealed to him in a manic episode
>>29937363huh, what happened to his viewers after the Z
I wanted to zoom into some obscure region of a 3rd world nation to find somewhere where Nijisanji beats Hololive, for shitposting purposes of course. I couldn't find anything though so take these meme numbers about where Nijisanji is searched the most in proportion to Hololive.
>>29937303>There are more HoloID members than HoloEN in the tally
>>29937459What are these midget numbers?! What the fuck are you huffing?!
>>29937387Why did Kaelafags love to lie so much? Her SC is not even 2x bigger kek and yet they claim it's 3-4x. Is this just Voxsister fasleflagging? Did Kobo really breaks them that hard?
>>29937459UNIRONICALLY THE FUNNIEST CLIMAX TO THE FUNNIEST SERIES OF "ARGUMENT"
>>29937459Source on these?
>>29937457But can she do it without MC buff
>>29937363Doesn't look like the Z even mattered though? The 2nd highest peak when he won the spring Koshien was 112,570.
>NijiJP vs NijiENis this bizzarro /vt/?
>>29937485That's the question of the day!
>>29937575Not yet, but her other content is also getting quite a nice buff, so she is converting some people.
>>29937518>He says this when JP branch have 3views and 2views in their ranksHolofags love to defend NijiJP since it poses no threat to them while NijiEN is actually slowly becoming more competitive
Anyone knows why Enna poster (chinfujo) love Enna so much?I thought they only love males?
>>29937528Everytime you see holo vs holo it's always nijiniggers falseflagging, so yeah you are right
>>29937584It's more the fact that 35k viewers just never returned after the Z that is weird as fuck.
>>29937640Didn't Hololive just get blown out by Koshien from NijiJP?
>>29937611Im just sick and tired of holofags trying to overinflate the importance of mayuzumi in order to doompost
>>29937563
>>29937563a manic episode
>>29937640Yeah, because all the Nijigolds so far have come from ENs, right?
>>29937650No I'll always shit on the leeching whore whenever I want.
>>29937363Nothing wrong with it. Jewtube is just being retarded.
>>29937303>50k bots culled from Z
>>29937645She's their sister.
>>29937640>NijiEN is actually slowly becoming more competitiveHow are they competitive? What makes them competitive? Do they have more mindshares?
>>29937640Ok
>>29937689>>29937611
>>29937684>Can only defeat hololive with an event that wasnt even organized by "the legendary mayuzumi"Seems like NijiJP is doing fine without that supposed legendary organizer
>>29937684Pekora beat their founder yesterday.
>>29937650Every post containing "nijinigger" has no value
>>29937611It's been said a few times but oldfag holoJP viewers usually watch at least a few Nijis too (although maybe that's fallen off a bit recently, some of the graduations were popular overlaps)It's weird to be agreeing with the oldfag Nijifags on something but it turns out they were right about EOPs being cancer, they just had the wrong fanbase in mind
>>29937689ENiggolors are a cancer on this industry
Noir 5.5k peak today if the trend continues
>>29937789Nijiseethe
>>29937762>I'm not seething, y-you're seething
If you are going to post Kuzuha lewds post Kuzuha lewds not some white haired vampire girl, I don't care about your 'traditions'
>>29937365Paizuri from Sanya
>>29937789ogey
>>29937303BRONZE>1) 41,478: Marine (Hololive) 2M celebration>2) 35,749: Leos (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien>3) 45,004: Lize (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien> PER COMPANY1x: Hololive2x: Nijisanji> PER STREAMER1x: Marine, Leos, LizeKoshien sweep
Where is the Hoshikawa lewd poster?
>>29937835Schizo monkey
>>29937842
UNCLE NOWA ON THE TELLY
>>29937363Is this real?
Nowa oji stream starting, predictions?
>>29937822The only agreeable Niji fanbase are the JP onesthe droves of normies brought on by NijiEN is truly cancerous
>>29937505>Romania>Watch Vtubers
DID SOMEBODY SAY POST SOME WHITE HAIRED VAMPIRE?!
>>29937716>>29937750>>29937748>imaginary goldsLOL, Meanwhile the gap betwen NijiEN and HoloEN is getting closer while the gap between NijiJP and HoloJP is getting wider>
>>29937846
>>29937912If his ISP fixed their shit, his usual 7k-8k range
>>29937563His head
>>29937901Pagpag rummaging hands made this post
>>29937363King.. how could you..
>>29937303SILVER>1) 71,833: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien>2) 59,997: Maimoto (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien>3) 45,884: Fuwa (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien> PER COMPANY3x: Nijisanji> PER STREAMER1x: Kuzuha, Maimoto, FuwaSILVERSWEEP DORYAAAAAAAA
>>299379124-5kSlowly going down to his real numbers. Might go to 2-3k next week
>>29937920>The only agreeable Niji fanbase are the JP onesIncorrect. They made Aloe graduate. Nijisanji and its fans are rotten to the core.
>>29937941Give us your numbers for NijiEN then, why can't you present a sound argument why NijiEN is better than NijiJP? Can't quantify minshares?
>>29937363wtf?
>>299379125.5k maybe even 6k if viewers feel generous
>>29937911https://vrabi.net/video/d8NG13Gw-Ms
>>29937611I mean we get HoloJP vs HoloEN all the time, it was inevitable that it will happen to Niji side as well.
>>29937303Since it was an obvious Z stream >>29937363 this gold shouldnt be counted
Can a single stream get 2 golds? King is still going at high numbers rn
>>29937365
>>29937966Better
>>29937920>The only good fans are the fans from the branch thats no threat to hololiveHolocucks and their funny jokes
*FINAL GAIJIN TALLY OF THE DAY*>16,007: Mysta (Nijisanji)>10,599: Kaela (Hololive)>8,475: Alban (Nijisanji)>8,374: Enna (Nijisanji)>8,046: Kronii (Hololive)>7,714: Ina (Hololive)>7,165: Noir (Holostars)>6,359: Magni (Holostars)>6,248: Noir (Holostars)>6,132: Mumei (Hololive)>5,853: Amelia (Hololive)>5,611: Mori (Hololive)>5,406: Maria (Nijisanji)>5,323: Axel (Holostars)
>>29938081newfag, lurk more for 1000 years
>>29937363So he was at 96k before the Z, recovered to 65, and just stayed at 65k or lower for the rest of the stream? Did the stream actually die or just lag? Looks suspiciously like Scarle's debut graph. Exactly 30k people instantly gone, never to return.
>kiara trying to take uncle nowa's funnelOh no no no
>>29938093
>>29937920NijiEN got the shitty fanbases people feared when HoloEN and StarsEN were announced.
>>29938032Cope
the funniest part of these Stars watchalongs is that the Nijis have been reduced to "B-B-But they'll be 3K views soon!!!" Not only can you hear the fear, it shows how much of a success they are.
>>29938139it's okay right after that is Regis vespy Hunt showdown! Kiara will catch nothing
>>29938112you just proved my point retard
>>29937650>Booga booga monkey currencyNo one cares, no Vox fan would waste their time with your kind.
>>29938139>KFP already having an ass mad in a different threadgod I fucking love this
>>29938112Every post containing "Holocuck" has no value
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_L8TusmUsU&feature=emb_titleNumbers predictions?
Can NijiEN fags gtfo and go back to their Discords and Doxxsites threads? Numbers is for the big boys and NijiEN is not one of them.
>>29938125Thanks for giving the answer, that was very helpful.
>>299382667-10k
>>2993826610-11k. council are flops.
>>29938277You're welcome
>>29938266200k
>>2993826617k
>>2993826620k?
>>29938139Does Kiara even share any fans with Holostar? It seem like Tempus is slowly building up a nice little box for themselves that doesn't rely heavily on the girls.
>>29938243No post on this board has value
>>29938221>No one cares(you)
>>29937363This kind of proves the bots
>>29937846I'm going to post the sexpire and you can't stop me
>>29938275>He says this while HoloEN and StarsEN have lower numbers and lost the gold to NijiEN
>>29938321>Does Kiara have fans?
>>2993826620k
>>29937846Tits though
>>29938266hopefully 20k
>>2993826625k
>>29938191Bruh...imagine if StarEN start playing buff games like Minecraft...nijisis...
>>29938172Here's a mind share for you sister
vox meet and greet sold outhttps://www.animeimpulse.com/luxiem/voxakuma
>>29938321Kiara has one of those small, incredibly hardcore cult fanbasesShe may lose some of the box viewers who only put her on because nobody else streamed at this time, but they weren't the ones superchatting or buying her merch anyway
>>29937723What about that lil' incline before the Z?
Heh, here is something amusing. Here is her >30 days true average CCV chart.She indeed had a massive incline (all the way down from three digits hell) but the peak so far was at the end of the month of May, start of July, right before she took what I assume to have been a break, with very little activity.Maybe her 30 days average will rise back again now that she caught some attention from tourists but her current peak was about 2 months ago, it seems
>>29938132>>29937363>if Z peaks can't be trusted, then no peaks AFTER or BEFORE can be trusted eitherI warned you fags
>>29938266her normal Karaoke is easy to reach 20k, so 25k.
>>29938398Oh so the before Luxiem and raid numbers and the after luxiem numbers, got it.
>>29938459Isn't that similar to Flare? She pulls fairly reliable supas despite having one of the smaller viewerbases
>>29938338Vox fujos aren't making seethe spam threads about ID the catalogKoboniggers do it daily and have Vox living rent free in their ape headsJust an observation
>>29938362Yes, HoloEN fags are trash so they can fuck off as well. Only Indochads can stay today.
>>29937611holoEN is closer to HoloJP than NijiEN is to HoloEN, so it kind of make sense actually
>Nowa toking longer than usual to hit 5kAre Kiara antis that shitty they will only tune early to oji-san's stream only if Kiara is overlapping?
>>29938446It's probably very limited, like 50 or 100.
Is NePoLaBo going to do anniversary 3D lives separately or one combined?
Vesper saying how he's not afraid to try new things, but will drop the ideas if they don't have longevity. Based?
>>29937846>white haired vampireI got one for you friend
>>29938441AIIEEEEEE CALL THE JANNIES!!
Do any of you guys drink tea?
>>29938572No because look how that worked for Ame.
>>29938594>leaf juiceNo, I drink coffee
>>29938572good mindset to have for a streamer.blue boy is just way too stubborn with Zelda, he should learn a thing or two.
>>29938594More of a coffee person.
>>29938352uuuuuuuungh footjob from vamp
>>29938511>daily>another liethanks for caring and typing a long response btw
>>29938594milk tea twice every day, it's like a ritual in my household.
>>29938536No, this checks out with the recline trend of losing 500 CCV for each consecutive stream he's doing
>>29938572Isnt that what ame did and it killed her numbers?
>>29937831I doubt it'll be that simple, his last 2 streams were either lower quality than usual or had outright bad internet so their indicativeness is iffy
>>29938446>Sold Out faster than Kiara'sThis bitch can't graduate soon enough
>>29937611Unironically, Holo is more unity than Niji no matter what NijiEN shitters say
>>29938504Yes, and they also share an absolute unwillingness to change their content or style despite it being an obvious debuff that casual viewers often complain about (Kiara's voice, Flare's insistence on being cute not cool) which I think contributes to this
>>29938025>Fuwa (Nijisanji) Niji KoshienIt's radio gymnastics , get it right numbernigger
Nijibros..., I thought we are winning, why is our price reclining...
>>29938460Must be a Z thing, no way his stream would have inclined after he won the game and was screwing with character settings menu.
>>29938699same, I'm a very fussy person and the only hot beverages I like are hot chocolate and Yorkshire tea with Milk and sugar.
>>29938594I love Assam most especially for breakfast, chamomile is inherently sweet for me and I like mixing it with rooibos then milk
>>29938594Mostly drink coffee, but I like a cup of tea every now and then.
>>29938536He is just reclning, The debut buff is slowly going away and he is gonna go to the stars area which is 2-3k
>>2993826620k if she actually sings for real instead of stopping at every minor mistake
>>29938474It's not really anything to do with the Z, it's that he didn't recover from the lag, which streams that Z typically will. Extremely suspicious.
>>29938701Nope. Quite the contrary, very few things would have as much longevity as "Ame in the AM" or "Fish Tank" and all she had to do would be to commit to one fixed format stream a week.Which she did btw, two of them>Supa Sunday>Watchalong
>>29938776"stars area which is 2-3k"tourist-chama...
>>29937505>english termsyawn
>>29938446If someone can keep track of the initial stock for the meet and greet it would be greatly appreciated. They are going to add a new product for another member at 12 noon PDTThe stock values can be accessed from the page source
>>29938500Average ccv isn't really affected by "nijiraids" or Zs
Here some proof nijisanji en is bigger in the west than hololive. Luxiem got invited to one of the biggest anime conventions in the world. Anime Impluse they are sponsered by fucking toyota. That huge plus vox meet and greet sold out instantly. This shows Nijisanji en is popular in the west so all these nijisanji cn jokes got to go.
> lagging againojisan, change your ISP or smth...
>>29938585>IDniggers always get a slap on the wristSEAjannies
>>29938719Meant for this>>29938530
>all these leaf juice drinkers ITTthat's pretty queer sis
>>29938726whole japanese market is going down. A small company like anycolor snt going to survive
>>29938594It's gross, tastes like grass.
>>29938726Oh no...the 6k floor...
>>29938511>She forgor about all the "Vox passed X" bait thread>When Kobofans did the same thing they're malding and spamming report>Still claiming that they "dont care"What a cute real life tsundere, i hope you're not fat and ugly.
>>29938321Every time Vesper and Kiara overlap Kiara only loses around 100-200 people, and in one instance actually inclined alongside Vesper. She's built a dedicated fanbase that will watch her do anything.
>>29938776The highest star is Roberu who is barely above 1k median peak anon.
>>29938594Equally drink tea and coffee. My favorite tea is Earl gray or jasmine green tea, no milk or sugar. For coffee I do black or a little cream.
So I was thinking about how some people blame Council for the lack of HoloEN growth when it is in fact Myth's decline that has stifled the EN branch and given the impression to some people that EN is not growing. And it's clear that everything cycles back to two people: Ame and Gura and their cancerous anti-numbers mentality which has had a disasterous effect on the branch.The first breakout wave always sets the tone for the entire branch and so Ame and Gura are senior members who have a lot of influence on branch culture. It's been well established that they both hate big numbers and will do anything to handicap their growth, and that they've managed to cultivate an audience who think this is a good thing. Some examples include:Not properly announcing buff content like Gura's birthday 3D or basically any time Ame hides something interesting behind a superchat reading. This is one thing Mysta and Vox actually do right - youtube watchers are already used to looking for clickbait titles because literally everybody does them. So most people will assume that if you don't even bother to advertise something in the title, there's nothing worth watching there. See also, unannounced offcollabs - NijiEN will have a whole arc of hype and people hinting at visitors, while HoloEN will give you literally nothing, killing the hype before it's even born.Normalizing the culture of completely ghosting your fanbase, streaming 9 times in a month, love bombing your fans with cringe to try and guilt trip them, before fucking off again with tons of unmet promises and canceled streams. This shit wouldn't fly in NijiEN let alone HoloJP (Ayame notwithstanding). Raking your fans over the coals is a good way to filter out tourists and casuals, leaving only the most mentally ill goslings behind. This is terrible for channel growth and only leads to stagnation.Delays delays delays, stream scuff, not testing out streams before they go live to minimize technical problems. Frankly unprofessional and Ame is the main culprit here. And since it's baked into HoloEN culture now, you get the same issues with council because they think it's okay to do it because Myth does it too!Hating on gifted memberships for no reason. Gifted memberships are literally free growth and an easy way to expand your viewerbase because people who got gifted mems are more likely to stick around for more. This tells me EN prioritizes gatekeeping their fanbase over expanding it, which a lot of people in /hlgg/ love but it's objectively bad for numbers and channel growth.There's more that I'm probably forgetting. The worst thing is that Ame and Gura will never ever improve themselves because they're surrounded by a legion of yes men and have a lot of influence due to being the 3D producer and the biggest streamer, respectively. So I don't know how to fix this, but I do know that the Gura and Ame problems need to be addressed if we don't want EN3 to develop the same unhealthy habits as the rest of the branch.
>>29938821starsen i meanhigher than stars but on the same level as nijien girls
>>29938869if you ain't adding milk, is it even Tea?
>>29938682Every day Kobo doesn't lose to Vox or Mysta that's it
No, I'm not gonna read that
>>29938776>he is gonna go to the stars area which is 2-3kAnon, not a single one of the stars is anywhere close to a stable 2k.2-3k is Voltaction area
>>29938852Cant wait to see images from the Miload meetHow many bronies this time?
>>29938726well damn, is this the first time it hit sub 6k?
>>29938860oh i meant in numbers, HoloEN and HoloJP have a pretty big powergap between them and the other branches, so it makes more sense for NijiEN to compare to NijiJP and HoloEN to compare to HoloJP.StarsEN vs StarsJP is fucked up though, let's not do that.
>>29938852>NijiEN is popular in the westI agree>Bigger in the west than HololiveDebatable
>>29938913I don't know if that's even true. Axel managed 5.3k earlier so the 2-3k figure isn't certain.
>>29938852You know California is full of chinese don't you?
>>29938855Anon, that post shouldn't get any warning at all. It's clearly Nijijannies being bias.
>>29938727See, that's a sound argument, if he was already heavily reclining since he had finished the match, then a fucky Z hid the decline....Still looks fucked, but context helps.
>>29938852LMAOOOOO
>>29938964>>29938913
>>29938852> Californiaperfect audience for NijiEN kek
>>29938852Oh no Mysta is gonna go Menhera again.Btw 75$ for a single minute meet and greet is a fucking scam
>>29938961Thought the same. First sentence alone is 41 words without a single punctuation, not even a comma.
>>29938909This hurts my eyes to look at.
>>29938894>>She forgor about all the "Vox passed X" bait threadUnrelated to ID. Nice mental gymnastics IDnigger
>>29938924Milk is okay in black teas, but I just find it more refreshing without
Greetings, my fellow numberpersons! Today we are here to witness Vesper Noir's morning zatsudan fail to reach 6k ccv for the first time ever!
>>29938852
>>29938852But how much mindshares?
>>29938928>another lie
>>29938909jesus christ use paragraphs for fucks sake
>>29938852>She think this shit is bigger than CrunchyrollKek
>>29938909I know people hate line breaks here, but sometimes it is really needed for readability.
>>29938446>>29938841Just as an example for Mysta's that has remaining stock is:1 for 4:50PM8 for 5:15PM { "variants": [ { "id": "eec54dce-f777-4717-9e39-828fd13d6141", "sku": "SQ9142798", "price": { "currencyCode": "USD", "value": 7500, "decimalValue": "75.00", "fractionalDigits": 2 }, "salePrice": { "currencyCode": "USD", "value": 0, "decimalValue": "0.00", "fractionalDigits": 2 }, "onSale": false, "stock": { "unlimited": false, "quantity": 1 }, "attributes": { "Time": "4:50PM (4:40PM Lineup)" } }, { "id": "b7939387-4909-43a5-8cc9-3f2ad49d9f19", "sku": "SQ9464456", "price": { "currencyCode": "USD", "value": 7500, "decimalValue": "75.00", "fractionalDigits": 2 }, "salePrice": { "currencyCode": "USD", "value": 0, "decimalValue": "0.00", "fractionalDigits": 2 }, "onSale": false, "stock": { "unlimited": false, "quantity": 8 }, "attributes": { "Time": "5:15PM (5:05PM Lineup)" } } ], "subscribable": false, "productType": 3}
>>29938988I sure of it but it might take a while maybe a month or 2 but im guessing that would be their range
>>29938852>Commieforniafitting place for NijiCN
>>29939069Eh... I would have agreed with you if he stalled around 4.5k... but I dunno anymore
>>29938536Anything for that loose pussy bitych to graduate and commit a heroI'm tunning into blue gai boy later on
>>29938996I have gotten worse for less.
>>29938986>NijiEN is popular in the westNijiEN is popular in bugs landFixed
>>29939069why don't you shut the fuck up and bet your balls. or are you already a eunuch
>chat challenge uncle nowa's tea knowledge
>>29939067>ignoring all the points
>>29938913>higher than stars but on the same level as nijien girlsYeah, this could give birth to the "Selen Line", the same as the "Sana line" but upside down.Any StarsEN ahead of Selen beat at least the first threshold
>>29939069Anon he's spent 20 minutes strictly talking about tea and almost nothing else and he's already on his way to 5.7k. Wanna keep talking?
>>29939069bet your dick on.
>>29939230That's Noor for you.
>>29939145The whole reddit spacing meme has been a disaster for this entire site. Reddit spacing used to mean having two line breaks after a quote line, like this:>quoteredditBut now it just means people not spacing their paragraphs like a fucking psycho.
>>29939236I mean, I don't see how you can see NijiEN get 10k during NA prime time and not think they're at least "popular" in the west. They very clearly have a presence. Whether that presence is bigger than Hololive is up to debate, and I frankly don't think it's true as of now
>>29938986It's not debatable at all, they're notNormie fleshtubers and twitch streamers regularly reference hololive. They have an actual cultural impact beyond hardcore weebsI have never seen an organic Nijisanji mention
>>29939313>>29939312>>29939258>>29939194It will happen, balls on the line.
>>29938909>519 words, 3005 charactersI ain't reading all of that nigerino.
>>29939069Whats up KFP, ready for another round of deep frying?
>>29939364Why would you do this to yourself? Unless you're cheering for him to get 6k?
>>29939365>that picWhat did mr. koro mean by this
Why did Watame stop streaming at these hours?
>>29939364You're not going to chop your balls off, pussy.
>>29938909tldr> Ame and Gura are supposed to set the path for EN in general, but their anti-number mentality has been a disastrous precedent.> *anti-gosling rant*> unplanned offcollabs = bad for numbers> blocking gifted membership = bad for numbers> EN3 will follow the path set by these two so it has to be fixed, but idk how
>>29939145The whole reddit spacing thing is just a trick to see if people can be peer pressured into being stupid.
>>29938909I read most of it, and I agree. There's not really anything else to say.
You know how Selen vacuumed up the next gen's debut buff, and now Enna's doing the same to Iluna?Is it possible that some of Kaela's recent incline is due to a similar effect?
>>29939340>Underage chinfujos can't watch them in the summer vacation morning!!! I swear!!!
Why do nijiniggers always lie? what makes them do this consistently?
>>29939449>t. yes-man
>>29938852>Anime Impluse>BigYou cannot be serious
Uh oh bros... Uncle Nowa stopped talking about grass water and started talking about cool nerd shit... my balls...
>>29938594Do those count?
>>29938504Thing is Flare has networking with many top Holos, Kiara doesn't have that.
>>29939487Kaela's incline is just a mix of "good stream ethic" and Gura. That's it, it's not complicated. Streaming for 12 hours is a great way to hoover up viewers if you have good discoverability.
>>29939449Gifted memberships seem to be a problem, a lot of the Niji girls are getting spammed with people who are giving out massive numbers of ARS memberships. That's cutting into people who will actually buy a real membership.
>>29939068it really does feel like just leaf juice without milk imo, I don't any of the fancier leaves which might make it good without milk.
If you want big numbers, just hire a Minecraft/FOTM game autist
AAIIEEEEEE CALII
So the Fortnite collab is going to beIna >>> Ame > Fauna, right?
>>29939340August is china's summer break anon...
>>29939069What body part do you have left to bet? toes?
>>29939340>Whether that presence is bigger than Hololive is up to debateyou have to be trolling
I wonder if nijisanjiEn will still get noombers once bugland goes to war 90% of luxiem fans would probably disappear kek
>>29939364at least post marked balls when you lose coward
>>29939434She didn't, she's just been busy signing literally thousands of birthday postcards, and her next stream is a shill stream where the sponsor set the time
>>29939487Kaela is capturing Kobo fans and giving them something to watch when Kobo isn't around.
So it's just impossible for IRyS to escape being a 4view huh
>>29937303
>>29938166Yes because holo has fans that are full of incels and unicorns. Niji is progressing faster than them.
>>29939364Still here anon?
How many fan can a chuuba meet in one day that you have to numberfag meet& greet? For a 1 hour 1 minute each (assuming perfect transitioning) will get you 60 persons. There's a reason why they're mostly gaccha cuz the demand are too huge.
>>29939145>>29939333It's not line breaks that that post is missing but better thought coordination and, as well, better formatting. I'll rewrite it.**** REFORMATTED LONG ASS THESIS STARTS HERE ****So I was thinking about how some people blame Council for the lack of HoloEN growth. They are wrong. In fact, Myth's decline is what stifled the EN branch and gave the impression to some people that EN is not growing.And it's clear that everything cycles back to two people>Ame and Guraand their cancerous anti-numbers mentality which has had a disasterous effect on the branch.The first breakout wave always sets the tone for the entire branch and so Ame and Gura are senior members who have a lot of influence on branch culture.It's been well established that they both hate big numbers and will do anything to handicap their growth, and that they've managed to cultivate an audience who think this is a good thing.Some examples include:>Not properly announcing buff content like Gura's birthday 3D or basically any time Ame hides something interesting behind a superchat reading.This is one thing Mysta and Vox actually do right - youtube watchers are already used to looking for clickbait titles because literally everybody does them.So most people will assume that if you don't even bother to advertise something in the title, there's nothing worth watching there.See also, unannounced offcollabs - NijiEN will have a whole arc of hype and people hinting at visitors, while HoloEN will give you literally nothing, killing the hype before it's even born.>Normalizing the culture of completely ghosting your fanbase, streaming 9 times in a month, love bombing your fans with cringe to try and guilt trip them, before fucking off again with tons of unmet promises and canceled streams.This shit wouldn't fly in NijiEN let alone HoloJP (Ayame notwithstanding).Raking your fans over the coals is a good way to filter out tourists and casuals, leaving only the most mentally ill goslings behind.This is terrible for channel growth and only leads to stagnation.>Delays delays delays, stream scuff, not testing out streams before they go live to minimize technical problems.Frankly unprofessional and Ame is the main culprit here.And since it's baked into HoloEN culture now, you get the same issues with council because they think it's okay to do it because Myth does it too!>Hating on gifted memberships for no reason.Gifted memberships are literally free growth and an easy way to expand your viewerbase because people who got gifted mems are more likely to stick around for more.This tells me EN prioritizes gatekeeping their fanbase over expanding it, which a lot of people in /hlgg/ love but it's objectively bad for numbers and channel growth.There's more that I'm probably forgetting.The worst thing is that Ame and Gura will never ever improve themselves. They're surrounded by a legion of yes men and have a lot of influence due to being the 3D producer and the biggest streamer, respectively.So, despite not knownig how to fix this, I do know that the Gura and Ame problems need to be addressed if we don't want EN3 to develop the same unhealthy habits as the rest of the branch.**** REFORMATTED LONG ASS THESIS ENDS HERE ****It is still just as dumb, but at least it is legible. It could also be summarized in a line.>Ame and Gura self sabotage their own numbers. They shouldn't, it is detrimental for the growth of the branch.
>>29937689I agree, almost all NijiJP are shitters, they could graduate tomorrow and Nijisanji would still be thriving. NijiEn is THAT powerful, keep seething holokeks
>>29939364Oh no
>>29939340Here you goVox's streams at non-Chinese prime time (for last 6 months)Total streams: 158non-Chinese pt:1. Portal collab w/ Reimu (3,195 peak)2. OW collab (5,112 peak)3. Among Us collab (5,549 peak)4. Smash collab w/ Fulgur (6,905 peak)5. Minecraft (8,765 peak)6. Jump King (10,993 peak)7. OW collab w/ Selen (2,475 peak)8. Sponsored Cookie-run Kingdom (4,792 peak)9. Drama (25,131 peak)10. Sponsored collab w/ Nina (2,723 peak)11. 1M subs 24h Marathon (20,132 peak)
>>29939564That's a tea flavored smoothie bro.
>>29939593Jesus are they actually doing ARS membership spam? That's just ugh... The livers obviously won't say anything about it.
>>29939449They can't blocking gifted membership anon. Susan decide who she should disable or enable it.
>>29939069OH NO NO NONONONODONT LOOK KFP
>>29939637GO NOWA OJI GO
noir 6k btw
>>29939637This clueless braphog was bringing up the homos because she thought they would be 3 views and she would have to saviorfag them but they're actually doing better than her
*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*Here it goes>16,007: Mysta (Nijisanji)>8,475: Alban (Nijisanji)>8,046: Kronii (Hololive)>7,714: Ina (Hololive)>7,165: Noir (Hololive)>6,359: Magni (Hololive)>6,248: Noir (Hololive)>6,132: Mumei (Hololive)>6,020: Mori (Hololive)>5,853: Amelia (Hololive)>5,323: Axel (Hololive)
>>29939364Anonchama...
>>29939364drop 'em
>>29939593To be honest, those people weren't buying memberships anyway, so it doesn't cut into anything.Reminds me of the old anti-piracy arguments saying piracy cuts into sales. No, those people were never paying $60 for your game anyway.
Wouldn't it be funny if Nowa oji mogged Kiara in her timeslot with a fucking zatsu and Kiara doing a handcam stream?
inb4 I MEANT HE WOULDNT REACH 6.5k AEEIIIIIII
>>29939783>2kLMAOOOOOOOO
>>29939783Bro, some of these streams were from like a few months ago when Luxiem hadn't reached its peak. Also a decent chunk of these are collabs, which a lot of people just won't touch
>>29939854>EN GOLD SO FAR FOR AUGUST1. Mumei (Hololive) - 14,137 (Getting Over It w/Fauna)2. Mumei (Hololive) - 12,262 (Minecraft)3. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 16,007 (Suspicious Early Peak and Immediate Decline)>GOLD PER COMPANYHololive - 2Nijisanji - 1Others - 0>GOLD PER STREAMER2x: Mumei1x: Mysta>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)Mumei: 10Mysta: 8Shu: 3Alban: 3Axel: 1Ina: 1Kronii: 1
>>29939820Yeah Petra and Pomu got hit with them. Guy did 150 at a time. Same guy always does red ARS donations to Petra.
>>29939930No because your obsession with Kiara is getting worrying
>>29939754>593 words, 3452 charactersI still ain't reading all of that negrito.
>>29939831I'm pretty sure it's on by default but you can turn it off.Or at least set up your tiers so that gifted folks can't do much more than emote.
>>29939831They could be turned off for a while, then the toggle was broken for everyone, then it was broken for just artist channels, and I think now it works for everyone again? Most of Hololive have turned them off.
>>29939934>inb4 after 6.5k "I MEANT 7k AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH"
>>29939930How many views her candy testing streams normally get?
>>29939069Your dick and balls, sir.
inb4> deleted
>>29939998How much 1 ARS member worth compare to 1 USD member?
>>29939637>Calii
He's also still rising, at 6.2k now
>>29939642Ina > Fauna > Ame imo but I'm probably biased.Ame should be 4k probably and Ina at least 7k I think so I guess it depends how many tourists decide to watch Ina over Fauna.
>>29939930Kiara foodbox streams are relatively popular, but they'll probably be close to each other.
how the fuck did the ENstars and iluna have like almost no debut buff at allthey just hit some numbers after their first two streams or so and more or less just kep tthose numbers
>>29939783
How many time do I have to tell you not to bet your balls sis, looks like you need to change your chromosome too
Seems like the ISP shit really hampered his numbers last stream. There also was a Kiara + Watame overlap yesterday
>>29940006I didn't read it either to be able to reformat. I simply double line break every paragraph, single break every period punctuation, rewrote the first and the last sentence and "meme arrow"'d his bullet list.It's not that what he said doesn't have merit, it is that it is too long and common knowledge and could be summarized as "Ame and Gura, please stop sabotaging your numbers"
>>299400265k so i don't know why he thinks nowa would't beat her. her last one got 7k because sana was there
>>29940047>>29940047Got em
> CS hardware lessonsI feel like I'm back at college...
>>29940009>>29940018Most of them has them on. Unless you're talking about EN which Irys and maybe Fauna has talked about Susan suddenly turn them off with no way to turn back on.
Don't let the tribalfagging diverted your attention from the fact that Kobo just reached 1.25M
>>29940093It has been and i can not streas this enough literally 1(uno) week
>>29939642unless Ame is clearly carrying the team, Fauna should beat her
>>29939930Kiara has done so many handcam streams that they only seem to be minor buffs now, maybe 2k more viewers that usual for her.
>>29939854>Mumei is carrying the gold but she's going back to college soonEN3 onegai... save us from the disgusting faggots...
Greetings, my fellow numberpersons! Today we are here to witness Vesper Noir's morning zatsudan fail to reach 7k ccv for the third time!
Hahaha what is with this zatsudan, 1st topic was tea then shifted to computers
Can Hololive ever recover after today? 100k nijigold, no holo anywhere near the podium, yet another mysta cripple gold and enna mogged all of the holoEN heavy hitters too.
>>29940299Your balls, hand it over...
It's amazing how Kuzuha is able to beat Hololive without any presence in the West at all.Sushi needs to go back and clip Nijisanji stuff.
The fucking nerd voice, lmao
>Mori funneling around 300 people to Nowa oji to make the Nowa schizo seetheMaking anons seethe since debut.
Whoa, trying too hard there discordfag-kun
>>29940333The west is a dead market. the only important markets are china, japan and korea. guess who has control of all 3.
6.5k get
Vesper 6,500
>>29939754>tl;dr Ame/Gura and an anti-numbers mindset have resulted in a culture that will make it difficult for future growth to happen in any EN3 wave. >Culture also explains an acceptance of 'scuff' and 'stupid unannounced bullshit' that makes it aggravating to keep up with special shit >Fixing this is ???, will probably require someone to become a breakout star and take the spotlight off of Gura/Ame and to try and steer the rest of the girls into a more healthy mindset that isn't so anti-numbers yet also won't lead to massive burnout
Ema choo choo by Nowa-oji
>>29940093Calm your tits, Salome debut buff lasted a few months before she settles into her current 20k floor.The main issue for ENstars is that if EN3 is actually soon, they need to start inclining soon before their buff ends or they're going to get hit hard by tourists flocking to the new big thing instead.
Anykara needs to tell Sony to put pressure on CRX. Inviting Hololive was an embarrassment.
>Godly zatsudan skillsPredict on uncle Nowa's first Minecraft?
>>29940009Tiers are useless, how new are you fag? They can't set up lower tier cuz gifted are default to the highest tier that's lower than 6$. They can't set up a 6 $ tier and tell people to switch cuz Cover literally told them not to (sth most pp just not pay attention to their old membership and just let yt renew it so switching would make them drop it, good business shit).
>>29940436>>29940446He has 20 minutes left do you reckon he is able to get 7k?
>>29940481he won't play Minecraft
>>29940322>>29940333
>>29940465>bringing up literally who low tier nijis to prop up the homo
>>29940093My guessTempus absorbed all the audience that was waiting for male EN Holos. Some people will always refuse to watch them, other people have been waiting and will keep watching them. That's why their sub growth is so low right away, despite relatively high CVV. There's a fixed number of people who are interested. For Iluna, there's just too many Nijis now, and their market cap is small. People watch who they used to watch and don't necessarily have time for new people. Even Noctyx had this problem. All the waves from now on will suffer from it.
>>29939783>Total Streams 158>Only 11 are non-Chinese panderingAnd that is why NijiEN will never grow in the west like so many of the Nijikeks want. The concept of debuting an english speaking vtuber and just having them stream during the same time as every asian time zone vtuber ever is just insane to me. Kind of defeats the entire purpose of creating the branch since time zones are just as big a filter as language barrier when it comes to people in the west watching JP/CN/whatever vtubers.
No longer getting yous so they are just samefagging own replies using different devicesWhat a joke
>>299404810 because he won't play minecraftwho am I kidding Bae is gonna force him to play, 10k because he will pull Minecraft autists.
Uncle Nowa hurts me..... My monitor is still 1080p although I have 3070...
>>29940512>nijikeks scared
>>29940322Fortnite collab and Mumei karaoke are going to be heavy hitters today. Yesterday had an MMO stream, a Digimon VN duo-collab (???), Amei Apex, and a Kiara Sims stream, not exactly a winning lineup for anyone in EN.
>>29940454holoEN is so screwed lmao. niji's slow and steady style is really starting to pay off now. enna is inclining and she's' already beating around half of the holo girls on a daily basis now. not long until she overtakes the reclining shark.
>6.5kThis is Noir's first EU hour zatsudan that doesn't drop compared to his previous EU zatsu, right? Need a bigger sample pool, but maybe he will be stabilizing around this range for his EU zatsu / stream
wew lad
>>29940134Yeah his last stream was semi-unwatchable for like a 10 minute stretch.
>>29940424Jun can't even beat Xqc with debuff content.Japan can only rely on anime-related market.
>>29940467Vesper's not in danger because he hand picked the EU timeslot. EN3 is gonna be another five people streaming exclusive during evening PST.
*ahem*nijiCHADS status?
>>29940424It's HOLOLIVE!!!!!!!!
>>29940474yeah. they should replace the panels and meeting things with luxiem and iluna. they might be able to draw in a crowd.
>>29940467I agree, EN3 would really hurt their growth. However, judging by the small general overlap of Stars/Hololive, I'd imagine it's the lower tier Holo girls that are more in danger
>>29940295Mysta did another heavy shameless chink pandering stream. They only win gold when they do that. Don't over react to a single win. If you check the graph he peaked 20 minutes in and then his viewership plummeted. Luxiem has dog shit tier viewership retention.
>>29940565>Fortnite Collab>Heavy hitterNo FPS with the EN girls will ever hit big numbers.Mumei karaoke should be gold...unless NijiEN breaks out a karaoke too.
>>29940397Did Mori beat dragonlord?
>>29940571his previous streams (both of the) he had severe ISP issues which affected his numbers
>>29940093StarEN's numbers are still very high. Compare their debut numbers with VTA, ID3 (except Kobo), Iluna, they should be down to 1-3k by now
>>29940565>Fortnite collabIt'll get shit number. Their target audience hate this game. Still remember it's one of the lowest VOD from Gura.
When and what can we expect the Boys viewership to stabilize at after the initial honeymoon period?
>stalled at 6.5kHow long until we can stop pretending tempiss was a catastrophic flop?
>>29940560Nah he actually said so himself, but who knows he might get bullied into it by the rest of Tempus for a collab.
>>29940565There's also potentially a milestone karaoke from Fauna after the Fortnite collab. But I wonder if she might cancel it to not overlap Mumei's bday karaoke?
>>29940571no it is still a drop. he had overlap last time
>>29940616Botted king lol >>29937363
>>29940622NijiJP rules Japan, Luxiem are basically royalty in China and Iluna are breakout stars in Korea.
Are we peaceful yet? I dropped by to say something nice about King
>>29940657It's a 4-person Fortnite collab, should be good numbers regardless.
>>29940514>low tier nijisThat's Vspo member anon. He passed low tier nijis long time ago.
>>29940695Didnt he hit 5.9k with Mori overlapping with 6k?
Seriously why is this thread full of retards who think debut buff=first stream after debut and that’s it?
>>29940481He says he won't play it but he's going to be pushed until he gives in, at which point he realises he likes the game actually and ends up building a sick ass dracula castle with a library in it.
>>29940616need to pay for the next bot
>>29940682Tough question. People in this very thread would NEVER think they would be this high right now, I doubt anyone here can predict where the numbers will be in a week or two
>>29940571I think people put too much stock into the few hundred viewer shifts. There is no 1k+ viewer streamer that gets consistent viewers down to the hundreds.
>Nijishitty with more baseball shitNijisanji is creatively bankrupt
Nowaschizo status?
>>29940686>stop pretending tempiss was a catastrophic flop?I never pretended they were a flopEngish comprehension you dumb seanigger
>>29940746Who the fuck is Vspo
>>29938362>StarsENpfhahah every time you bring up beating them you demean yourselves. reminder that stars as a brand is below fucking HoloID (pre gen3)
Yellow Voltaction is doing good
>>29940333speaking of, anyone following the JP clipping scene? have there been any viral koshien clips this year?
>holofags are impressed by 6500 CCVslmao
>>29940695Anon Mori had 5.5-5k overlapping him today
>>29939930I love Kiara, but handcam food review is shit content need something like easter eggs painting where she made jimmy image or cake house to pull up big #
>>29937831Kneel.
Try to beat me with your baseball shit.
>>29940737not with multiple POV and at that hour.
>>29939754I do agree with you, especially the ghosting part. All holoEN, without exception, think that it is ok to ghost their viewers.Also their loyal fanbases are a bunch of retards but they will never die with their oshis, plus they (at least Ame) is losing them every stream. At least yonkisei are collecting currently cult members, increasing their numbers to prepare for mass suicide ritual during graduation.
>Uncle Nowa is a Linux shillAnd into the trash he goes. He showed so much promise too.
>>29940749As a deadbeat it’s just Moris core audience watching a ER stream starting at 22JST and Mori ended like 15-20 minutes ago
>>29939069your balls please
>>29940804LET ME IMPREGNATE YOU ENNA PLEASE
>>29940804Wait the stream you guys were gloating about is a karaoke?
>>29940804>2hour stream vs 1 hour stream>Nowa is actually beating this graph in the first hourLOL
>>29940706>NijiJP rules Japan,LOL No, you are right about the other 2 but NijiJP squandered their dominance in japan and got dethroned by Hololive. In the EN sphere its the same but only in revers with HoloEN on the top and NijiEN slowly dethroning them.JP branch is a fucking joke especially when they cant operate with the "legendary Mayuzumi" with them
>>29940784niji adjacent FPS-centric vtuber group. one of their breakout stars used to be a nijisanji liver. kanae is heavily involved too. they're all honorary nijis at this point.
stop posting disgusting malepost the superior version
>>29940804It's a HOMOSTAR. Most of them are 3view shitters, it's natural to be impressed that there's a market for these guys.
>>29940804>HolostarsEN vs NijiENNijisis...
>>29940784Really shitty bait.Any mtfkers reply to this shit after me should neck themselves
>>29940804>Singing stream>8kYikes, is that the best singer of the vtuber world?
>>29940804>nijikeks are impressed by a 8k Karaokewwww
>>29940784Holy NijiEN shitter
Rappers have a saying "fake it till you make it".https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nXa4KrqVwIThey will rent an expensive car, gold jewels, expensive women.....etc. Even though it's all fake, the only thing that matters is putting up a front. Pretending to be rich, and that will bring the fans who are obsessed with wealth and status. Then after a while, they start making money for real. Nijisanji is the same thing. They buy viewbots for Salome and Koshien. And then say "look at our high numbers, you should watch us". And that brings more fans than they would otherwise have. They create a mystique of popularity.
>>29940867>itoddler
>>29940867>Typed by the hands of a person who has never touched critical production servers
>>29940167congrats! she's farming SC rn just from waiting room kek
>>29940901Ema and Noir kissing, nice
>>29939364pics or it didn't happen
>>29940867>crApple coomsumer detectedDunk yourself into the trash
>>29940693Depending on the length of the fortnite collab. Fauna could set up a funnel from the collab to her karaoke to mumei's
Tempiss status?
>>29940921 >>29940943 >>29940944tempus is closer to holoEN than it is to holostars. you don't get to hide behind the holostars brand any more. face it, holoEN's time is over.
>>29940682I think after a month you can be pretty sure of the numbers have stabilized, but you should be able to see where the numbers are headed after 2 weeks I think.
>>29941055acting like 6.5k is supposed to be impressive
>>29940669Yep, she did well.
>>29941055having sex with you're mum
>>29941055continues to shatter expectations, Nowa at 6.5k
>>29941060is this the most powerful nijicope ive read in this thread?
>>29940930JP only even have King to realistically compete with Salome who can help him
I respect every vtuber corporation except for Nijisanji, simple as.
>>29941055unable to get 10k a week after debut. dead in the water.
>>29941092It is when you consider 4/6 of Iluna is not even 5k
>>29940855>*dabs on you even with susans 30% culls*
>>29941060So basically Tempus is HoloEN
>>29941060>IT DOESN'T COUNT>STOP LYING>NOOOOOOOOOOO
>>29941060NIJICOEP
>if you aren't the number one you are a failureThis is your brain on numbers
>>29941052She needs to stream until 600k though, so we'll see. I guess that'd be easy enough to reach.
>>29939754Well, this morning Ame and Mumei just have a collab but Ame blew it, and they had to play Apex to make up for it. The numbers are shit.
>>29941115wut about vshojo or is it "not a corpo"
Nijisanji is a joke, their graphs are more unnatural than trannies and that takes talent. It's a good thing one of their talents is a tranny!
>>29940804YOOO WHAT ARE THOSE, LOOK AT THAT RETENTION
How is this
>>29941116Salome is already washed up and King cant even fight holo's on regular streams anymore. While NijiEN is actually very competitive and slowly inclining against HoloENJP branch is a joke
>>29940901Oi Uncle, stay away from my wife's cute sister.
>>29941060The fucking shit nijiniggers type. I bet if Roberu inclined to a 10k streamer you'd say naturally, he's closer to Pekora than other stars.
>>29941060* cums on you *
TOP KEK>my reformatting of a long ass post from someone else is getting all his (you)sI think my point is thoroughly proved here: his post problem was a matter of format and organization.
>>29941115Based, but I prefer Luto
>>29941060>tempus is closer to holoENLow tier holoEN? Yesand tempus mogs mid tier nijien
>>29940864>All holoEN, without exception, think that it is ok to ghost their viewers.This isn't even remotely true. Kiara doesn't. Mori doesn't. Bae doesn't. Fauna is getting better about it and only really ghosted them during her off collab stints, Mumei doesn't, Ame definitely fucking doesn't.
>>29940887My honest feelings:Laplus needs to stop coasting and value her career more. She’s so young and no one knows just how long a career can last in vtubing. Try to make the best of it because when you’re ahead, it’s better to keep pushing rather than fall behindNotRushia needs to just make an onlyfans. Like bro, you’re as shameless as you can be anyways. You will be a multi millionaire making softcore content for your crazy, lonely fans instead of becoming a dwindling streamer in your 30s while being menhera
10 minutes left will he reach 7k?
>>29941217Even VShitshow is better than Nijisanji.
>>29941149100M but only 1M ccv?We are in the different market bro, just keep uploading your video.
>>29941275>King cant even fight holo's on regular streams anymoreHe got 100k today and most of his streams for the last month have been 70k+. Holo 3D concerts could slip to him.
>>29941262even comparable to this?
>>29941237kinda kureiji to see ollie so low now
>>29941262Person is commenting on the 2019 event?
Sorry tempissnigger, 7k is for healthy breeding age men only
>>29941237Damn average CCV is a really brutal stat for NijiEN. Using median peaks Mysta is some sort of 15k ubersmensch. With average he's a widdle 9k man making his way through the world.
>>29941344Post King LOL number (lol)
>>29941055Keeps Inclining
>Long hyped Myth off-collab finally happens>Myth instantly starts recliningExplain this shit
>>29941237>Axel Magging VoxWhat the fuck is with these numbers lmao
>>29940750People can't cope with lluna being 1-2k shitters 24 hours after debut.
>>29941262>The trashy garbage conventions can't get HoloEN>Settle for NijiENVery fitting for NijiEN, the representatives of the CCP
>>29941399GO EMA GO
>>29941372well there's the "N-NOT 7K" cope that was predicted
>>29941399She got scared and turned on the bots
>>29941060
>>29941344With Koshien. Go ahead, keep using that, burn that tourist buff into the ground. You can't/won't? Then go back to your 10k LoL average streams lmao.
reminder that iluna has a gura-tier streamer. tempus is aboslutely nothing compared to them.
>>29940669Yes with no summons, only the final boss rush left
>>29941344>70kDont lie we all saw those lol streamsKing is a joke and Salome is a disaster.NijiJP is a joke of a branch that managed to lose to hololive. Meanwhile NijiEN started from the bottom but is slowly inclining and being competitive against HoloEN
>>29941115As we all should anon. Fucking hate nijisanji, they deserve nothing but destruction.
>>29941315Nah 400 views away, maybe if he had more time without overlap like 30 extra minutes
>>29940815and he only reached his peak after mori ended. the same he had yesterday with overlap
>>29941291His post was still dumb after that, but yes people might have reacted to it if it was readable.
>>29941170>if you aren't the number one you are a failureThis is always my matto. However I had been No.2 since back in school so it took a toll on my mental health, but at least it makes me work harder and be the top 0.001%
>>29941434Vox is reclining and its a fucking debut buff. Like come on, don't be a nijinigger and ignore context to prop up your guys.
>>29941433people got bored of the fake holo shit and wanted to watch a group that feels like a real family instead.
>>29941077>>29940766appreciate the responses
>>29941348Just Gura there and fans will kill themselves just to enter in the panel
>>29941312>>Laplus recently self-doxed her face for no reason at all, I have no idea what she's doing but she definitely feels like a menhera in waiting
>>29941217I have no strong feelings about vshojo other than Nyanners, and say what you want about vshojofags but they don't have this constant small dog syndrome regarding hololive that leads to them constantly trying to pick fights with holofags
>>29941479>collabdon't be shy, show us the CCV of his latest zatsu or his jump king stream
>>29941312>just make an onlyfanskek, you think she has the mental fortitude to tard wrangle not only a completely schizo audience but also a coomer one to boot?She had things figured out already: making members only videos on her Mike channel and private paid only Twitter spaces or whatever platform she was using.Just pay gate the content, forget about internet notoriety and become a multi millionaire being the 21st century version of a psychoanalyst, talking and listening to a mentally disturbed chat and getting paid 100 bucks per 55 minutes hour
I feel like actual fans wouldnt type half the low effort bait I read here, more proof Nijisanji indeed does not have any real fans in this thread.
>>29941502surely there is a graph to show nijiens incline in this, the numbers thread
>>29940706HoloJP rules Japan.
>>29941539>mattoBone apple tea friend!
>>29941488Huh? She was using Tiche before I switched to Vesper.
are tempus and iluna debut buff still active???
>>29941092It is when most people expected them to follow their senpais' footsteps and become 3views to early 1k after debut
>>29941540I was expecting Magni and Vesper over Vox, not Axel
>>29941641if they are then Iluna is in real big trouble
>>29941237>Risotto is already a 5k shitter
>>29938972No. The lowest point was 5620 JPY, reached twice.
>>29941641Tempus's debut buff might but Iluna's for sure has died considering they have sub 2k shitters which is worse than the weakest Tempus
>>29941628Decided to do it without summons after her first try
>>29941479> 29-07First days buff, anon. Post the numbers of recents streams
>Noir build a new PC to use only for Streaming and Holo and then have a separate one for private use. Finally, someone not being a dumbass about it.
>>29941539>mattoAlso you sound menhera, take your meds
>>29941479Why nijikeks don't like to talk about median or average?
>>29941479>Gura tier>18k while stacking like 10 different buffs18k would be a weaker Gura Minecraft stream, lmao. This fag needs to stack all those buffs just to equal a low performing Gura stream.
>>29941641Not really. They might decline a little bit more but I think you're seeing basically the numbers they'll get going forward.
holoEN can't even beat an honorary niji, let alone the real thing.
>>29941720L-Lauren... ;-(
>>29941275I do not tolerate slander even against my enemy like this. You Nijinigger would throw your own company under the bus to “own le Hololive” huh?Tell me where is NijiEN annual events that give everyone 300% number boost over 2 months? It’s NijiEN who can go die in a ditch and the company would still be fine
>>29941460>BotsIt's just VSPO box
>>29941502Is this some advanced trolling? Fuck off lmao, can any NijiEN get koshien tier numbers? Sorry but no EN branch touches any JP branch.
>>29941574yamada....
>>29941641Tempus yes iLuna for their sake I hope not
>>29941574All women are attention whores.
>>29941479>iluna has a gura-tier streamer.Gura never get below 10k on streams. except watchalong non Nintendo Direct and Dead Space 3 in Euro hours.Do't insult her with that shitter beggar.
>>29941778I didn't ask
>>29941701>start a day after Tempus>already lost the buff
>>29941237>Aster and Aia lower than Anya>Iofi not the lowestAlso, where's Finana?
>>29941060this is bait but i kind of buy into it, StarsEN is so much more successful than StarsJP that it feels weird to group them together
>>29941237>finana not even in the rankingsno...
>>29941641Pray that it isn't for Iluna, otherwise things will look DIRE in 3 weeks time unless they manage to hook a big audience somehow like luxiem did post debut.
>>29941479Not only was this a collab and debut buffed...but the peak is also a fucking Z. Why are nijis like this man? I swear half the thread at any point has to be about debunking retarded nijinigger lies. Its not even like in the catalog where retards might believe you, you always just get told to fuck off with your lies. What dopamine rush comes from that?
https://twitter.com/crunchyrollexpo/status/1554863412684787712?s=20https://twitter.com/crunchyrollexpo/status/1554863412684787712?s=20https://twitter.com/crunchyrollexpo/status/1554863412684787712?s=20
>>29941720You mean someone who will make $100,000+ on his top level vtuber gig can afford an extra 3 grand to have a separate PC for personal use so he doesn't accidentally show private information on stream? Craaaaaazy.
Catching up on today, is there any particular reason why Peko couldn't break 35k with Rust? Is it just Rust buff dying or Pekora declining again?
what aspect that determine >tempus debut buff still active >iluna debut buff is already wear off
>>29941762>honorary niji,she hates nijis so kys
There goes the Nvidia sponsorship...
>>29941657Axel is the wild card to me. The other three are what they are and I don't see them inclining much over where they are now (which is still very good, don't get me wrong). Axel though has a very different personality from the other three and seems to be a total cunt (in a good way) and that will be refined as he gets more comfortable. I also think he is going to incline pretty hard when he does his first karaoke stream since he seems to be a great singer.
>>29941833Yes you didn't. You just made dumb statement.
>>29941821the shark is reclining hard. it won't be long until she'll struggle to even get 10k, especially with zotto taking her viewerbase away.
>>29940971same with gura dead subs
>>29941899How can nijien compete with mainstream...
>>29941574Lapu 1 year graduation speed run....
>>29941842>>29941701I still can't believe nijisanji somehow manages to get 80k on debut but less than 5% of them actually stayed 2 weeks later
>>29941932Everyone was streaming their POV
>>29941138So just like wave 6 then?
>>29941899What is it a panel?
>>29941720Hologirls...
>>29939161Aren't these numbers pathetic?
>>29941994>b-b-but what aboutnijiseethe
Uncle nowa raid
>>29941574https://twitter.com/nkok_sub Speaking of, she seems to have deleted it now.
>>29941974> Zotto taking her viwershipWait, he's a loli?
>>29941899Meanwhile, NijiEN is singing the themesong for the con with Hime herself and they'll be on the main stage.
>>29941974>He/She doesn't know Gura is inclining in CCV
>>29942007>bots/tourists/really bad streamerstake you pick at a reason
>>29941955I feel like Tempus has the easiest path to incline, all it takes is them doing more creative, longer streams and they'll be [BIG TIME]. They're all very creatively-focused which is the most important part of maintaining strong viewership.
>Uncle Nowa waiting for Regis' stream to start before redirectingSeems they figured out that raiding waiting rooms fucks up the numbers. Smart move.
>>29941312Rushia needs a husband... She doesn't need any more money and her womb is almost dried up..
Nowa is waiting until he can redirect to running stream instead of waiting room
>>29941899We can watch the panels online for fre at least
>>29941937Usually when the debut buff wears out there is a steep recline in their numbers for a while, then it stops reclniing and starts varying up and down, stabilizing around a certain point.If the numbers of a streamer start inclining after a week long recline, it is likely that the debut buff wore out
>>29941932There were mostly no conflict today. The girls decided to just hold a mini summer firework show in Rust for fun before server resetI spend all my time watching stream so dunno any further than that but maybe overlapping?
>>29941348>Chris English and NotSenzawa in the same location after all these yearskek
>>29941237Did IRyS not stream on the 1st?
>13k vod for a 6k viewer streamonly time this happens is when bots get culled from the vodholofags explain
It's EU hour already! Can retard shitposter comeback at Burger? You fuckers have 5/6 of a whole day to shit this place up already.
>>29938909They blocked gifted mem???? That such a debuff. Any specific reason why they hate it?Also I agree to all point, they seem too nonchalant with their content that there's really no hype to what their doing.
>>29941941VSPO is niji-adjacent. It's like trying to claim that Tenkai Tsukasa isn't a niji.
>no holoen in the top 10 againLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>29941932The ones with the timestamp in red were overlapping
>>29941899Crunchyroll >>>>>>>>>>>> nijien's whatever trash panel
>>29941312>She’s so young and no one knows just how long a career can last in vtubingOh just look at MatsuriLa+ would be fine
>>29942142He uploaded late because of yab
>>29942083Anon it will be an MV that loops on a side stage for god sake.
>>29942142He had to take down the VOD due to doxing himself, this is a reupload
>>29942161EU hours are always the worst, what are you talking about?
>>29942142VOD was deleted then reuploaded for self doxx
>>29941785This but HoloEN
I don't think Vesper realizes his raids never work. In fact I'm not sure he knows how raids are actually supposed to go and thinks the "redirect" is just the prompt message that people can optionally click on.
>>29942117cute wisu
>>29942142VOD was privated right after stream ended because of a yab
>>29942218Nice deflection pagpag eater, how's the night shift?
>>29941911I know right!?!?!?!It's like, christ, you can even write it off as a business expense too, unless you're a LITERAL POORFAG with NO SAVINGS TO YOUR NAME, there is no excuse.
>>29942134>Chris Englishhuh? Who?
>>29942247they are working fine for me, did you set autodirect to on? Because if you didn't the video won't automatically redirect you and you need to click a link
>>29942247worked for me
>>29942211Did his screen crash?
>>29942263why are Europoors always so defensive?
>>29942188Anya being there was kind of weird. She really is a JP
>>29942167Vtubers from Nijisanji quit just to join VSPO and Hololive.Nijisanji is a training ground for VSPO and Hololive.VSPO and Hololive are better than Nijisanji.
So this is the new normal...
>>29941777>KoshienWhich will translate to nothing after that happens, Same with Salome which NijiJP squandered. When NijiEN actually has an event the tourists actually stay after the events which help the branch slowly incline. Meanwhile JP has all the huge events but fail to retain the tourists.LMAO JP is a joke and at this point might be even carried by the EN branch
Youtube blocks cute anime girls in bikinis or Choco and Mel ASMR but allows thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LI2WWABD27MNice site you have there, Susan
>>29942083How many panels do they have? Tell me anon. People are going to walk in seeing literal whos.
>>29942363nijibros...
>>29942306Do you have to enable it? What if you're not logged on and watching? Is it by default not to redirect?
>>29942193Meh, Matsuri is known for being a complete menhera but she knows how to behave when needed That or her manager is always behind her keeping her on a short leash, this seems more likely
>>29942363>/mans/HOW???
>>29942278You can just put it on a credit card, pay it off when you get your first youtube check. Unless you speedrun yourself to an Aloe graduation, you're gonna be able to cover it fairly soon after you get monetized.
>>29942390irrelevant, they need to raid /#/ just to get some recognition. Pathetic.
>>29942083>main stageWere you Nijicunts hired from the same stock of shitposters on /chug/? This constant denial of reality reeks of zigger bullshit.
>>29941262wait, i live like 10 minutes away from pomona and didn't even realize this con was a thing
>>29942382>HoloEN : over 10>nijien : 1...
>>29942400if you didn't enable it your endscreen should look a little like this, it won't automatically redirect you
>>29942409All me.
>>29942400It worked for me while not logged
>>29942409It's always like this when they are streaming, minimum 15 posts/min, 20 if it's a collab
>>29942409hololive board
"he doesn't sleep he waits" makes me laugh every time
>>29942409Proof that almost no one watches streams in this general
>Nijinigger literally shitting on his own company nowI refuse to believe this is a Nijinigger. WHO the fuck is this guy?
>>29942193>Oh just look at Matsuri>La+ would be finekek, cursed words right there, God forbid Laplus to follow Matsuri footsteps.The only thing that prevented Matsuri from "Finana-ing" herself was her massive name recognition among EOPs that knew nothing about her but "I am God, OK?".
>>29942409twitter tourists and hlgg people wanting to discuss the homos
>>29942306What's the difference between autodirect and autoplay? I've always been able to be raided normally into other streams without doing anything special. From Pomu streams or Fauna when she does them. But in the last month or so raids never work for me, and I have not changed any settings. I never had "autoplay" on before or now.
>>29942329cooking simulator leaked his full file pathturns out gura's settings screen paranoia is reasonable
>>29942378Susan is deeply ashamed of the anime girlsThey're literally paying millions to poach twitch streamers who get 5000 average viewers while either neglecting or actively fucking over their home-grown vtuber scene who can pull 2-6x that number regularly
>>29942462me too
/#/ is literally just /mans/ lite at this point. The shilling is unbearable
>>29941974This is the saddest bait yet, is this retarded alien a loli? The chumpedos are exclusively Gura's viewers and don't watch the rest of EN. At least compare her to the other cunny in Iluna, oh wait. Go on, call her a Gura Killer
>>29942363>homo thread is active during homo streamnoway!
Polpol getting double poled by Kanae and Regis/Nowa-oji
>>29942390Nijitourists tweet, they don't actively engage in discussions here save for rabid shitposters.
>>29941312>>29941574Lapu-chan had many inconsequential minor yab since she joined hololive, and this is due to her carefree way of doing things, and the fact that she really mean no harm to anyone else. We will see how it turns out. She still got many Chinese fans following her from B2, by the way.
I can't believe this retard is now shitposting against NijiJP after the holofriends on this thread definitely proved that they somehow knew more about Nijisanji. What the fuck happened with the NijiEN branch, my god.
>>29942546Let’s hope Towa and Pekora can steer her to the right direction
>>29942587kek, wasn't the accusation months ago that this thread was "hlgg"-lite?
>>29942134Having Gura and Kronii in the same company is a bigger kek since they had a fandom war.
>>29942193matsuri menhera phase not until she already make a bond with other hololive member, in lacunny case she can get menhera and no one there for her, even lui is never mention her off stream life again after that female friend yab
>>29942193matsuri was also one of the best holos for actual event stuff, she was like next in line as a cover rep for events after sora and fubukishe was strong at basically every aspect of idolshit
>>29942587you're free to talk about the streams you're watching anon, just make sure they have interesting to talk about numbers.
>>29942587this place was always hlgg, now that theyre talking about vtubers you dont care about you notice now.
>>29942552Autodirect is set up by the streamer and you get directed to the specific stream that the streamer sent you too.Autoplay is a youtube feature that automatically sends you to Gura's Duolingo VOD after the stream/video you are currently watching ends.
>>29941574Meh just 1 month in and she already double dipping with rm, pretty sure she's only staying for clout.
>>29942556So uh...he used his full given name for his PC name? That's fucking grim.
Regis is numberpoison..
>>29942587Hololive board, please understand. May be create another 4chan.
>>299426871 month? pretty sure she did a karaoke like a week and a half into Holo
>>29942671How do I enable or disable autodirect on my end?
>>29942193there is will no time redemption arc for her, gen 7 will fill her role
>>29942723His Voice filters HARD
>>29942687>double dippingThere is no such thing with regards to Holo, mate. As long as you can do the job in your main you can do whatever you want in your alt.
>>29942138data for 2 or more streams
>>29942715the only reason people don't think magni is a dumbass is because axel is in his gen
so collabs are really a debuff for nowa or does every homo have the same viewers?
>2k lost on the windBlue is finally a debuff
>>29941774>King cant fight holo on a regular basis>Salome is washed upWheres the slander in that you retarded holobronie? NijiJP is not competitive against HoloJP since they always lose on a normal stream basis. Meanwhile NijiEN can actually put up a fight and win against HoloEN on a normal stream basis.
>>29942587where are these newfags from /mans/ coming from?How did they end up here?
>brotuber collab with debut buff>can't even beat an honorary niji playing a JRPGTempus would get destroyed if they tried to go against a real niji.
>>29942829Redirect failedI had to manually jump in
>>29941948Elden Ring is an exercise in sunk-cost fallacy for Mori and Ame.
>>29942829Let's not forget people doompost Pekora after her debut.
>>29942649>that female friend yabWhat is it?
>>29942804you can double dipping if you already long enough with holoeven time to time foobs and marine dip as well
Kanae ending before a Z finalizes
>>29942829It wouldn't shock me if the audiences for Noir's Zatsu are starting to diverge from the gameplay audience. their hunt streams have been fun, but they're fairly gameplay heavy
>>29942888those are pretty much moris normal numbers
>>29942094I fully expect "b-but they'll never incline after this!" to become the next goalpost to collect balls on after another couple of weeks pass and they're still getting good numbers
>>29942827Regis channel is the debuff.
>>29941262qrd? jwu
>>29942877>nijikys newfag
>>29942094Yeah, there's a lot of legitimate optimism when I look at Tempus that doesn't feel like coep since they're already greatly exceeding expectations.
>>29942912>3 knock for asking nakadashi
>>29941237Uh oh saplings, where's your green whore? Weren't you saying she was inclining?
>>29942888>play a long game>stream it once a week for 2-3 hours
Is Regis lagging for anyone?
>>29942860this is the containment for numberfags, everyone that ended here got bullied from their oshis general
>>29942988She's only had 1 (public) stream on her channel you idiot.
>>29942969you're the newfag if you don't know the ties between nijisanji and VSPO. VSPO is basically Kanae's pet project and one of their top livers used to be in nijiKR.
>>29941237>ANYA FUCKING MELFISSA>BEATING DEBUT BUFFED ASTER ARCADIA
>>29943027You, you shouldn't chew a condom even if it smells good
>>29942888Elden Ring numbers literally don't matter since you can't monetize the streams. I mean yes it's opportunity cost because you could stream something else, or you could stream it so much you could make people stop watching you, or theoretically you could pick up some fans by playing it, but overall it's basically inconsequential to the streamer how well those streams perform.
>>29943094
>>29942914HuhThat remind me idk if Pekora ever touch her rm again ever since Hololive. Last time she did /jp/ freaked out because she never do that, it wasn’t even something yab-worthy, she broke her iPhone and complained
>>29941574that wasn't her face it was one of her irl friends, stop spreading rrats
Interestingly enough *THIS* right here is how Youtube stream charts should look like>audience starts pouring in in the first two minutes because of notifications or whatever>then it stays stable for the start and maybe incline or recline a little in the durationInstead of you have waiting room cull, a 15 minutes long recovery, tab in / tab out effects, Zs, "teeth" and a myriad of other retardation that hides the true audience that is actually watching
>>29942578anon its not about views its about soft power
Nice Z
>>29943027Kill yourself nijiniggerStop leeching VSPO
>>29942964nijichinks exaggerated their NA presence when their viewers are fifty shades of yellow.
>>29942807Ayo?
>>29943170Yep. It's a>I created you, I can destroy yousituation, that obviously wouldn't work for home organically grown talent
>>29943019Doesn't seem to be. If he is you'll start seeing Zs or weird spikey graph. If not it's on your end.
AAIIIEEEEEEEEE
>>29943170Twitch got it in the first place by being a platform people actually wanted to be onNow they're both garbage and Twitch is coasting on network effects while google just pays people to move
>>29942263You can say that, but we definitely have EU shitposters, from the Ruski to the frogs and the ES crew. They're here, and they've BEEN here since the start. EUshart and FlipShart schizos who spam enshart as if it's some great 'own' instead of the drivel that shits up the thread, as well as the other dumb shit they pull.
>>29943026That's the usual explanation for /#/, but not for /mans/.
>>29942616wdym? polka just ended
>>29943268What he said about numberfags, but for homolovers
>>29942725so talk about hololive then...
Let the salt run, Regis-kun...
>>29941060Bros... they made it... they're on the same level as HoloEN...
>>29943237>+2.5kreally?
Perfect double Z landing
>>29943151some holomem i follow their other activityactive double dipping holo>noel>mel>akitime to tome>choco>fbk>marine>flare>nanora>roboco
>>29942134(me)>>29942286Ah shit sorry my badWrong guy, I thought it was senzawas ex-bf back when she wasnt called senzawa