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* YESTERDAY'S FINAL TALLY *>62,664: Pekora (Hololive)>59,997: Maimoto (Nijisanji)>35,749: Leos (Nijisanji)>31,467: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)>28,249: Fubuki (Hololive)>26,480: Subaru (Hololive)>20,441: Koyori (Hololive)>19,120: Miko (Hololive)>18,933: Patra (774 Inc.)>17,176: Kanae (Nijisanji)>16,287: Subaru (Hololive)>16,149: Sumire (VSPO)>15,083: Lamy (Hololive)>13,588: Lamy (Hololive)>13,139: Koyori (Hololive)>12,690: Sasaki (Nijisanji)>12,350: Mysta (Nijisanji)>12,204: Mumei (Hololive)>12,059: Ina (Hololive)>12,044: Akina (Nijisanji)>11,478: Fauna (Hololive)>11,110: Shu (Nijisanji)>10,926: Watame (Hololive)>10,468: Magni (Holostars)>10,380: Akina (Nijisanji)>10,252: Ike (Nijisanji)>10,057: IRyS (Hololive)
Anyone whining about low stream hour should be forced to watch any 1view subathon
Nijileeches
>>29912245Is he the tranny one?
NUMBER POISON TRANNY STAY AWAY FROM UNCLE NOWA AAIIIIEEEEOtherwise how is Marines school uniform stream going to perform?
>>29912438Enjoy your dead slot HoloEN fags.
>>29912449There's 2 of them in Iluna anon
>>29912449he's the one who sounds like a hood nigga despite having a trap model
>>29912190did you know over half of JP are below the average EN hours streamed last month?
/news/ roundup for 02-08-2022 >>29860064Monthly /news/ roundup for July 2022 >>29772027Recent clip numbers>>29845692>>29845728 >>29846120 >>29846153
>>29912449The character or the rm? The rm rather looks like a massive fag instead of a tranny.
>>29911160
>>29912474Not JP prime time, and HoloError is not a good streaming game. So, about 25k-30k max
>>29912488thanks, I'll just watch other jp/id stream or watch vods
Median of Peak CCV>>29729405 :: Top 50>>29732525 :: 1k plus>>29734193 :: complete>>29735091 :: kaigaiTrue average of CCV>>29738677 :: Top 50>>29738842 :: complete>>29739223 :: kaigai
>>29912514jp has 35 streamers
>>29912510His model's color remind me the transgender flag.
>>29912514did you know gura is below the average EN hours streamed last month?
>>29912543Was she cooking with fucking mercury?
>>29912543Stop doxing my space elf waif
>>29912546Not HoloErrorhttps://twitter.com/houshoumarine/status/1554707366741831680
https://twitter.com/ReiDuran/status/1554714763946561538?t=nhg06MKS0gvPC8FJD7574Q&s=19Who is he talking about surely its a girl
>>29912543She's as beautiful as how I imagined her, simply perfect
>>29912517nigga fix your monthly news link >>29708347
>>29912619Ame maybe?
>>29912609Probably yokai watch shill stream.
https://youtu.be/2Ii7UBMxWVwHit 10 million views. When is somebody from Hololive going to cover this song?
>>29912619Probably Ame, pretty much a Collab beggar comment
>>29912657Nah
I want to ride on the moombus too
>>29912554what does that have to do with them being lazy?
>>29912710MOOMBUS
>>29912335/news/ roundup for 02-08-2022>>29860064 Monthly /news/ roundup for July 2022>>29708347 Recent clip numbers>>29845692 >>29845728 >>29846120>>29846153
>>29912598yes? along with 20/35 JPs
>>29912675What do you mean anon? That's clearly Suisei's cover.
>>29912710One day china will take over taiwan and replace hololive with nijisanji :)
>>29912675
https://youtu.be/-p8BdqKfTYsBros... they've come a long way...
>>29912635Thanks for the heads up
>>29912675Man, ProSekai has been a blessing for Miku, pushing her fully back into relevance in the year 2022.
>>29912779What's the average hours stream for EN and JP?
>>29912657Uh, you might be right. However Kuzuha is streaming Koshien today, if it was anybody else she could steal another Koshien gold
>>29912802I too am looking forward to dying admists a pile of chinese corpses as nukes go off over the horizon
>>29912710when will we get GOOMBUS?
>>2991283442 EN44 JP
>>29912167Thats fucking gross man
>>29912876
>>29912853Im not discussing about the potential gold today though. Kuzuha will 100% get the gold today.
>>29912876we already did
>>29912619Ame. Its a fucking beggar too.
So, I don't know if this has been posted since it's a bit of old news (June), but apparently Youtube has intentionally changed how shorts & longer vods interact with each other in terms of recommendations.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv4bgw9iuqw>tldrshorts and long form videos on the same channel are disconnected and will not increase the recommendation rate of each other. This is by design.>Summary>Youtube found out that people watching a massive amount of shorts and then went back to watch longer vids never got recommended longer vids, since the algorithm had gone haywire.>This caused viewer frustration. Youtube in response split shorts and long term videos viewing history.>This means there isn't much of a bridge between shorts and long term videos on the same channel. I.e. you can watch a bunch of shorts of a channel and not be recommended that channels long-form videos.>source for these statements in the video for this is Todd Beaupre, Manager for the recommendation algorithm team on Youtube, video highlights an interview he did on Vidcon in June.
>>29912543Kek, reminded me of Haachama revenge dox kino
>>29912913>>29912927NICE
>>29912447Aren't we glad Myth gave the branch attention when they started doing this?
If Vesper had a handcam would for the stream would t have done better numbers?
>>29912802One day. I keep hearing this BS everyday from zhang mouth
>>29912802China couldn't even stop a hag taking a flight to that god forsaken island anon
>>29912987He got 7k today, probably easy 10k with handcam.
>>29912934So why even bother with shorts anymore?
>>29913020Taiwan isn't god forsaken, God with with them
>>29913031What if he's black?
https://youtu.be/7tsbofZPNCMhttps://youtu.be/7tsbofZPNCMhttps://youtu.be/7tsbofZPNCM>1 hour long
>>29912543 for anyone really looking for it, don't bother, it's a blurry ass picture
>>29912934>>29913045They are still useful for discoverability even if it doesn't boost the algo itself
>>29912394ぺこちゃん大好き!
>>29912987Depends on if he's wearing gloves or not. >Gloves 10k+ >No gloves straight to 2views
>>29913062Gloves
>>29913096I guess so, if the viewer subscribes to the channel?
>>29913116 (me)fuck
So after almost 2 weeks, what is the verdict for Tempus vs Iluna?
>>29912815Stop shilling your leeching whore here 35pagpag.
>>29913045So that one guy on here can post about Niji EN's VOD views since shorts get a fucking absurd amount of views and are easy as fuck to do.
>>29913223Tempus is getting around 4-8k, LLuna struggles to get the same numbersTempus retained about 20-25% of their debut numbers, LLuna got maybe 5% if you're being generousSo yeah LLuna got mogged
>>29913286nijiseethe
>>29913317>magged
If you guys are having trouble with NijiEN recommendations, I'd suggest clicking on a few translated VSPO clips, it replaced them for me.
>>29913286I'm sorry Riku used your liver as a pump and dump scheme anon, maybe you should buy more key chains to support her/him/they
>>29912934I wonder if it bad a knock on effect for music in the algo. Like, you have to willingly go out of your way to force that shit into the algo now when they mucked around with shit.
>>29913358>replacing trash with another trashKek no
>>29912447>>29912474Would you prefer this one doing it?https://twitter.com/RenZott0/status/1554720119766810624
>>29913419why do niji leech?
>>29913358I just watch one Mika clips and lo and behold, Susan recommended me multiple NijiEN clipsNot even niji ID clip, though I don't know if they have any
GO FUREA GO
>>29913223Tempus has shown us that there is a legitimate fanbase for male vtubers in the Western HoloEN box. Iluna has shown us that NijiEN waves can't survive without Luxiem. They need to figure out a way fast to remedy this problem because if Mysta or Vox graduated then NijiEN would die. >inb4 you could say the same about GuraGura doesn't count
>>29913436Noor had them at gun point
>2M is the entry point for the Top200Jezas
>>29913419Of course you haven't risotto cause you're the trash itself
https://youtu.be/7tsbofZPNCMhttps://youtu.be/7tsbofZPNCMhttps://youtu.be/7tsbofZPNCMENTER HERE RIGHT NOW NUMBERCHADS
>>29913486the power of hololive
sex...
I have finally found it the first nijiEN only newfag.
>>29913419Kinda rude honestly, he should just @ them.
aloe...
>>29912878Eh am i missing something i look at EN average hours stream and its 36.9hrs
>>29913370Huh, now that you think about it it seems possibleThe sudden drop in music views is just too abrupt
>>29913486>2M is the entry pointfloprys...
jwu, is koala a 8k streamer now?
>>29913528>>29913556remember what the nijiniggers took from you
>>29913530Where is this from?
>>29913575She gets like 2k doing literally anything besides Minecraft. She's a top ID but she isn't really even in Kobo tier.
>>29913588looks like nuxtaku drama vid of some sort
78k 80.5k 78.5k 71.8k to that. Bronze Boi...My predictions for today will be Kuzuha Power Pro 74k, Pekora 49k on Rust and Marine 37k on whatever shed doing. If that's HoloERROR then it's gonna be below 30k.
>>29913588Seems like a Nux taku video about his drama with Vshojo.
Any holo stream that could get 50k tonight?
Has Kobo started reclining yet? She can't be a 10k ccv streamer forever, that's like if Salome stayed an 80k streamer, it's just not feasible. She's gotta regress to the mean eventually.
>>29913699He's confirmed that he's going to stream koshien?
REMEMBER WHAT THEY TOOK FROM YOU
>>299137350%
>>29913780garbage song
>>29913735Marine if she streams the mobile game, Pekora streaming Rust (apparently they want to do an all out war before the server gets reseted)
>>29913735Holosummer ep0 on the main channel, featuring Nodoka-chan and A-chan in T-string. Easy 69k. No, i won't take my meds
>>29913775https://twitter.com/Kuzuha_engtrans/status/1554670534134095873
>There was a time when Ollie could get 2.5 million views on a songWhat happened
>>29913767why would she, her popualrity isn't faked with nijibots unlike Salome
can the anons who were stockpiling pre-debut Tempus/Wave 6 cope post it now? I feel like we've stabilised to the point where it's safe to laugh at nijis.
>>29913563There is clearly something wrong with music views though since Marine seems to be getting far more subs from her current MV than her last MV despite her current MV getting views far more slowly.
>>29913735Whatever Marine is going to do
>>29913775Check his tweet.
>>29913767no? why you assume she will recline in the first place? she got popular after debut buff unlike salome
>>29913711Oh new drama?>>29913780Who?
>>29913827Face yab + she shit on her unicucks
>>29913767she was 10k streamer because she keep playing buff gamesnow she only play whatever she wants and keep spamming gerilla valorant/lol stream, she's reclining now
>>29913827Apex and farmer straw hat happened
>>29913439Mika is honorary NijiEN anonNijiEN leech because it works, they're trying to infect the Youtube Algorithm.
>>29913767No gurabuff so she's reclining.
>>29913735Hololive is already up 2-0 its time to let Niji get one in
>>29913851no
>>29913853Because he thinks that Hololive operates like nijisanji with a massive surge of interest at the start followed by slowly losing it
>>29913906...that was exactly my point
>>29913780Fatson is irrelevant to my eyes nowadays.Coco doesn't exist anymore.
>>29913780
>>29913893I can't believe I used to think she might be cute...
>>29913853
>>29913836Music views are fucked up and have been for like the last 3 months.
Has Kaela held that 7k for most of those 8 hours? Or she just peaked?
>>29913735All out war in Rust
Rappers have a saying "fake it till you make it".https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nXa4KrqVwIThey will rent an expensive car, gold jewels, expensive women.....etc. Even though it's all fake, the only thing that matters is putting up a front. Pretending to be rich, and that will bring the fans who are obsessed with wealth and status. Then after a while, they start making money for real. Hololive is the same thing. They buy viewbots. And then say "look at our high numbers, you should watch us". And that brings more fans than they would otherwise have. They create a mystique of popularity. That's what this thread is for, it's part of their business strategy.
>>29913948How hard is it to separate the character from the RM?
>>29913780The song sucks, the singing voice is shit. It only has sentimental value
>>29914005doesn't matter, still mine
>>29913982
>>29913999She made sure to keep them as intertwined as much as possible, and that is why i dislike her.
>>29913767Depends on your definition of "reclining". She's definitely doesn't get the same number as early July anymore but that's mostly because the school holiday is over. But she stills consistently get 10k+ and she can still gets 4-6k whenever she streams at 2AM.Also she's definitely still VERY popular irlhttps://youtu.be/4lIE4Op1vQ0
>>29913992>expensive womenThere's no such thing zhangbros
>>29913999She's stained her previous colleagues too much with that Super 3D and her sucking the cock of "The Avengers of Vtubing"
>>29914071Who do you think they hire for their music videos? Those women aren't free
>>29913419https://twitter.com/PomuRainpuff/status/1554689261747707906Fauna responded too.
>>29914097All me
BAE
>>29914066>>29914079Is she?I dunno, maybe because I'm not unicorn I find it pretty easy to separate kaichou from KsonSame with danchou and her RM
> 3M still only puts you at 135th
>>29913436Iluna didn't do as good they expected
>>29914146What the actual hell does being an unicorn or not have to do with it?
>The top 20 will be Gura, Suisei, Mori and fucking Pekora & Ayame with their covers
>>29914147Bae needs to release more bangers like this. Great song and great performance.
>>29913992Given nijiniggers's record of projection I wouldn't be surprised if that's what Riku is doing with Salome
>>29914056That's crazy. Why is ID3 so strong?
>>29913557i took the numbers from last months hours watched chart
>>29914208And Baqua!
Rushia...
>>29914185I literally put "maybe" in there because I'm not sure about it either retardGod why are unicucks are so defensive
>>29914236Who?
>>29914222The power of Gura
>>29914183Maria is now the highest-viewed NijiEN female, with 5k viewers. Ren is getting Luxiem tier viewers. They're doing really well.
>>29914208One (1) Pekora
>>29914236Actual deadweight as shown in their recent performances..
> Permanently associate Mera Mera with that fucking bollywood sceneI've been here for too long...
>>29913419
>>29914261And for more stories from bizzarro world tune into /vt/
>>29914224I did too and its only 36.9 to me.
>>29914208 (me)well, I forgot about Ochame Kinou too
There's going to be alot of king covers in this list huh?
>>29914261>Luxiem-tier>Only strong in collab and/or open vchuh, pretty apt comparison
Why did they make it top 200...
>>29913999In case you haven't notice, this board wants anime girls anon, not streamers with anime avatar
>>29914250Maybe should learn what terms you use means before doing so.
>>29914307There are now 5 NijiEN females averaging 3000 viewers. That's a dramatic increase from before. And they're only getting more popular. NijiEN females used to be around 1.5k viewers
>>29914281
>>29914355Uh yeah, no shitDo you associate anime characters with their VA too?>>29914376Stop trying so hard to fit in newfag
>>29914208>>29914269Deserved for Pekora's first Orisong I'd say!
>>29914208FEAR THE POWER OF THIS FULLY OPERATIONAL DEATHSTAR
So we have seen a couple songs from April/May of this year that have good viewership (Mera Mera, Beat Eater). So is it safe to assume that whatever youtube did to kill music views happened in June?
>>29914236The green whore who was the sole responsible of the shitfest that was the 3rd gen concert.
>>29914424>Do you associate anime characters with their VA too?Not unless they themselves decide to allude to the VA whenever they get a chance.
>>29914444I wonder if this is what affecting them >>29913370
>4M to enter top 100
> 4M needed to get Top 100
>>29914444Nah mori is just reclining.
>4M views won't put you on top 99Sugoi....
>4M gets you 99th place
>>29914222Gura buff
>>29914550>>29914552WHICH ONE?
>>29914529Mori isn't the only one who is getting much lower than usual views on songs you troll. This is happening to everybody.
>>29914517kek
>>29913370Songs are not shorts though, and many Hololive members have no shorts at all
>>29914481What about radio show then? You know that a series sometime do radio show but the VAs are not too much in characterMaybe I'm too autistic
>>29914574>>29914528
>>299145744M exact would put you on 100th
>>29914596No they aren't but youtube is famous for breaking something every time they try to "fix" something, like adding dark mode to youtube studio fucking up superchats
>>29914529That’s why SN sold 150% of Your Mori just in Japan? And the viewership for the free part of her Sololive was beaten only by Suisei in a timeslot that is shit for NA? That’s why Villain Vibes is the strongest thing on AmaLees channel in a year?
the last 4kisei collab...
>>29914606No, because that's a separate thing that isn't part of the media that i consume
We already know #1 is Kuzuha King what's the point in watching
>>29914647>Deadcuck making up numbers againEVERY FUCKING TIME.
>>29914596You're putting too much faith on an algorithm designed by underpaid pajeets
>>29914647Yep, Shinigami Note did really well and the Sololive performed very well also. Youtube is clearly fucked up.
>>29914529It's not just Mori though. I really wish Suisei would release a new song on her own channel, the last one was June 8.
>>29914650I'm pretty sure they had one after Coco's graduation Unless you mean full 4kisei including Coco
>>2991430927.181.150.635.547.953.049.034.436.619.624.5is what i see
>>29914686We might get a surprise gura stream that will beat kuzuha stream.
The Korone song. Another song released in April with good viewership. The change certainly happened in June.
>>29914424>Do you associate anime characters with their VA too?Idk what's your line of thinking anon, but I'm suspicious that it's similar to what upd8 thought when they tried that stunt with Kizuna Ai
This ranking does not include original REFLECT and Can you do the Hololive
>>29914650What collabs did Coco and Luna have except that one reddit review?
>>29914647Not to mention Marine's I'm Your Treasure Box should be having Reflect level views with that insane sub growth.
>>29914638As much as it would be a convenient explanation I think the song view changes have different reasons, probably another change to how they validate viewers and primarily repeat viewers. I'm not even talking about multi tab views or stuff like the kpopstans does, just that repeated views on vids might not be regarded as a valid view unless x-y-z criteria is fulfilled.
>>29914686Kuzuha is hololive?
>>29914762I want Suisei to release a new song, that would be the best way to confirm it
>>29914714by pajeet standards youtube pajeets are definitely overpaid pajeets.
>>29914748>Putting faith in the reclining sharkNot gonna mag it.
>>29914517Man, I assume it's funny but I couldn't bother to learn how to enable soundpost ...
>>29914767Obviously not to that degree, I could discern whenever they change a character VA in animeIt's just I literally don't give a shit about any RM or PL stuff, a chuuba is a chuuba that's it
>>29914889Just google it it's literally the first result
>>29914070Imagine the smell...
>>29914889search for 4chan sounds player
>>29912394Homos on the tally!
> 5M is 72nd
>>29914782B-But can you do the Hololive is my favorite Holo song... nun nun nun nun...
I just got to thinking, has IRyS appeared even once so far?
>>29914877Gura is the reason why vtubers are inclining right now anon.
>>29914789The last Minecraft stream and graduation too, the 4 gen MoHun before that.Early on they collabed more and Coco was in Luna's chat a lot, sometimes LiveTL.But mostly, after summer 2020, their sleep schedule and interests didn't match.
>>29915014lol no
>>29914650I still remember how much Kanatan worked her ass off to make sure this was released on time.and look how she got repaid...
blue rose kinda got overshadowed by Stellar Stellar but it's still my favourite Suisei song
INDOCHADS
>>29914782What's Nijisanjis version of Can You Do The Hololive?
>>29915014With the amount of exposure Hololive has now the fact that IRyS couldnt put even one song on the Top200 is honestly quite impresive
>>29915080Nijisanji?
>>29915067>not top 50Better luck next time
>>29915067It's 5,4 actually
Be ready for the king covers
Maybe hololive is really an idol company
>>29915080Nyanjisanji - nyan cat parody, the failed attempt to make their own ochame kinou lol
man there are alot of songs at the 5 million mark huh?
>>29915032I see, i remember feeling weird about them all being together during Coco's graduation since i could barely remember any of them interacting with each other like other gens, Luna in particular.
I hate startend, it reminds me of how bad they performed
>>29915136You don't say
>>29915105Still doing better than anything Polka has released lmao
>>29915190I blame Towa
>>29914222they don't hate their viewers
>Top 50 is 6M>HORY SHIT
> Their 3 best singers are ALSO their biggest tryhard gamersHow did they do it?
>>29915080>almost 100 chuubasEither it's a 30 minutes song or they give each livers 1 second
>>29915203Envy Baby is going to be in the top 30
>>29915092Quite impressive form of music mismanagement no? Isn't that supposed to be what's she's there for?
>>29915080I an imagine that the one liver who gets put in charge of doing every greeting will get an aneurism.
>Top 10 will be 20M+
6M not enough for top 50
>>29915213I blame suisei
>>29912543I hate elves
>>29915185All of them already interacted with each other like 3 month before they're event debut.It's how Cover build-up generation. using Gen.3 format as it's standard
>>29915159>Segregated by branchThat's their equivalent to Holo Ochame Kino
>>29915220proof that singing is hard work over talent
> 6M is 52nd
>>29915092Irystocrats are fucking worthless
>>29915231Yeah, imagine releasing 20+ songs under Hololive and not having one hit 2M in over a year when you are suppose to be the VSinger of the company
>>29914444Mantra Hujan is still massively popular so nope
>>29915220Dude ... Aqua carried hard that team
Oh yeah, has CR expo released their schedule yet? My hope is that there's a special HoloEN announcement segment dedicated on announcing the next EN 3
>>29915300That was released in March
HnK Angelfish couldve been in the top50s...
>>29915092If they had debuted her with an HCH MV it would have easily made the top 200. At this point her MV views are hopeless though
>>29915080It was supposed to be VTL, until some folks sperged out about newbies singing it.
>>29915286>Not even top 50Holy fucking shit
>>29915308>valks outside the ringwell...
>>29912802>One day china will take over taiwan*dabs on you*
HOLOSUMMER
>>29915255Nah, what songs are even over 20M?Mori+Gura King. RIP and Ochame Kinou?
HOLOSUMMER IS BACK
UUUOOOOOGGHHHHSUMMEREROTIC
>>29915299>EN VSinger>Only JP Song
>>29915231It’s actually proof that allowing the girls to self manage yields a better result than trying to emulate the music industry. Sora under Victor and AZKi under INNK are also examples of that and, to a certain extent, Calli under UMG.
> 7M at 44th
>>29915308>Towa struggled to keep the leash on AquaAnon, Aqua is not good in team, at least she wasn't at the time of VsaikyouShe literally gave off the same feeling as Astel's first Vsaikyou
>>29915347Kek it's amazing to see the tankies and chinkshills seethe over that yesterday after a week straight of boasting about it
UUUUUUUUUUUUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAG SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
>>29914782Wait... maybe the one that does not included is REFLECT MV ver.
>>29915326I found this from some reddit post:The Panel’s content have been revealed for CR. No announcements (unless Theater section has something).Panel 1 Friday, August 5The family bonds run deep and wild, especially for the holoFamily! Unravel the mystery and truth (?) of the hololive family tree with your favorite hosts, the idol zombie, Kureiji Ollie and the chaos representative, Hakos Baelz!Panel 2 Friday, August 5Take a deep dive into the world of VTubing with the best buddies, Gura and Amelia! Do you have questions or are just purely interested in how VTubing works? Fret not as the AmeSame combi is here to help! Send in your questions to #AmeSameSupport and the detective and shark will be on the case!Saturday, August 6Witness who has the master pitch, as Tako and Tori face each other in a battle of the wits! Come join the fun as Ina'nis and Kiara prove to the fans who the better salesperson is, in this quiz-packed panel!
>>29914706We literally have the fucking Oricon numbers you fat German fuck
RAB U RAB U
>>29915326Ollie and bae will try to include holostars again.
top 31 is all going to be over 10 million
CHAMMER'S ON THE TELLY
MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU MOGU
>>29915439>Ina and Kiara>battle of witswhy...
>>29915439>>29915466Well this sucks. There's a 0.01% that ollie and hakos will be the ones to announce that there will be a new EN 3 gen in the family tree.
OKAKORO SAIKYOU
>>29915391I don't think IRyS would be doing much better with original music by being self-managed. Maybe she'd have slightly higher numbers just by virtue of having a way lower output.
> 8M at 35th
PORUKA ON THE TELLY
>>29915347This shit was pretty funny. Chinks are just all talk. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%27s_final_warning
>>29915514too early to announce for an october debut anonmy guess is that its gonna be after myths anniversary especially if the fairytale thing is real and not a rrat
>>29915372>Ina, Kiara, Mori, Bae and Mumei on the list>all with JP songsnot really an excuse
KINO
>>29915336Heh oh yeah I forgot about that. Wasn't that their version of Shiny Smily Story?
AIEEEEEEE NOT THIS ONE
>>29915514August is too packed anon, there's miniscule chance they'll announce EN3 on CRX
>>29915466Was ollie and bae scouted because they have experience being on panels, MCs or something?
IRYS IS HERE AFTER ALL!
>>29912449it's the one with nervous damage
DAISENSOU
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA COLLAB ALREADY YOU DORKS
PEKOMIKOPEKOMIKOPEKOMIKOPEKOMIKO
>>29915581it is
Hololive has 30 songs above 10M.
That was a big jump from 8,8M to 10,3M
>>29915544Maybe that would lead to her actually knowing what she is releasing and doing
>>29915471They missed one. What is it.
>>29915672can you do the hololoive probably
>10 mil will land you in top 30Also holy fuck the gap is nearly 1 mil between 31 and 30Also TOWA MY BELOVE
>>29915471>Gura top 3Its almost like her songs do really well or somethin
>>29914976minna genki tokino towa
RENT FREE
I guess it's only gonna be Suisei and Mori from this point...
all top 10 will be ojou
>>29915658Scary when you think about it
>>29915713lol no.
I hate Mori for ruining these rankings with her dogshit rapping
ZHANGBROS DON'T LOOK
I don't want to see this braphog wigger anymore!!!
>>29915752Get used to it, top 30 is going to be full of her songs
>>29915746>>29915752Fucking cry about it
>>29915690>towatomos can't countlike oshi like fan
>>29915743All bots.
Huh, Ogayu's song is surprisingly popular
>>29915752its botted like finanas song
>>29915790
>>29915746I hate you for ruining these threads with your dogshit posts
LISTEN TO MY CUTE HAG WIFE
I remember the time when Mio wouldnt move from the 15th place
HAG LOVE
>>29915092Too many songs, spreading to different platforms and releasing them too frequently. It takes a bit more effort to loop 10 different songs a day than one or two, and she (well, her management team) releases new songs pretty much once every month or so.If they want YT views, they should have just stuck to one platform (Youtube), release at the same pace as other Holos (one song every 2-3 months or longer), and shill them properly. Stop releasing songs without MV and on her topic channel, WTH. If you don't have a MV yet, just delay the schedule by a week or two.Her sales and karaoke records are doing well, though, which is probably why Cover keep giving her new songs
aiieee kpop fans stop revealing your viewfarm tricks
>>29915544>I don't think IRyS would be doing much better with original music by being self-managedGoing hard from the getgo in original music, IMO, was the biggest problem. The girl sings excellent covers, why forego her strong point completely like that?
>>29915813nijiseethe
>top 20 is 12Mjesas
>>29915690what is this? got any link?
stellar stellar
>>29915855You can't sell those on mora/ototoy/itunes or in physical EPs
Is RIP still #1 or is it the Holo song?
>>29915875https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tsbofZPNCM
welcome to the mori suisei show
>>29915326Kiara already said there isn't going to be an EN3 announcement at CRX
>>29915909W-we still have Gura and the Bonebros to look forward too as well.
>>29915909No lol
How the fuck is Mori's "music" so popular, do the japs like it as well?
>it's all wiggerlame
Time to mute. Sorry Suisei but I just can't bear the braphog's rapping
>>29915725GODDAMNT Anon.
>>29915909You forgot Laplus
>holodex>hololive music chart channel>good quality fan gameswhy niji fans don't bother to contribute to their community
>>29915092Too many songs over a short period of time and lack of covers. Same thing also happened to Watame. Suisei's release schedule is the best IMO.
Ojou is no.1 or i will akasupa your oshi
>>29915947nijiseethe
GURA MY BELOVE DAUGHTER WIFE AAAAAAAAAAAA
Ghost > NCP > the rest of suisei's
>>29915963My oshi is Watame
>>29915958they doomscroll twitter all day
>>29915958View bots can't make anything
AHOY
> 15M is not enough for Top 10
>>29915650That's sad.
>>29915958because their idea of contributing is making cope posts in vietnamese rice milling forums like >>29913992 and shitting up threads
Laputyan my daughter
>>29915855releasing covers of Inochi, Ghost and Palette when she debuted didnt do her any favors, if anything just made people think that her covers were good but the original was better, which is not the first impression she should give
>>29916023>16.1 M is not enough for top 10 either.
I had no idea la+ had a 15 mil mv
>>29915958Not only that, holodex can also be changed to "nijidex" since the devs are genuine unityfags that does the work Nijinigger should be doing
[Q] got knocked out of top 10
>>29915899Ochame Kinou but RIP is coming
Man fuck you guys, Mori has talent. I don't know why you guys always rip on her. Her Mori stuff is way better than her RM music
Okay now we enter the Mori Suisei show
top 10
TOP 10!16m needed!
>Fastest song to reach 10M isn't even in top 10
RABYU ONION
Wow Gura can't get top 10 with the the Mori buff... the runt of EN...
>>29916089No lol.
rab yu onyon
>>29915895Ironically, those are the exact places you can indeed sell a cover paying just the mechanical license (7 cents per unit sold). What they can’t is to make an MV for that, that needs a synchronization license and it’s at the copyright owner discretion.
>>29916116
>>29916062it's literally her first cover, she uploaded right after her debut
>>29916116>Mori buff
I see dead people
Getcha is awful, how is it so high
>>29916100it's been out for literally five montsh
Whos the green haired girl?
>>29916062Her very first cover. Her other covers don't do that well.
>>29916116Just wait and see
>>29915902thanks
>>29916190Kson from vshojo
CHIMAFAGS ETERNALLY BTFO
Why did Suisei's Phony blow up?
OJOU
I KNEEL OUJO-SAMA
https://twitter.com/houshoumarine/status/1554740355656187904predict za numba
Holy shit Ayame
KNEEL
OUJO SAMAAAAAAAAA
I hate koreans
>Goodbye declaration by autotune feat. a picture of Ayame is in the top 10
>>29916116LMAO
>Stream once each 3 months>Release a cover barely one year ago>MIA since then>4th most viewed song in the companyHOW DOES SHE DO IT?
>>29916241It got picked up by the algorithm.
>only 3 songs 20M+Hololive is dead lmao
OH NO NO NO NO NO KING
>>2991625090k ez
>>29916241It's good and have the best MV from all phony covers.
I KNEEL HOLOLIVE
>>29916241Numberfags race + Recommended by YT algorithm + Major Debut Boost
SAVED
>>29916305How do we save Holo bros....
>>2991625034k tops.
>>29916294Ayame is the pinnacle if vtubing
I KNEEL
Yeah Can You Do the Hololive isn't on the list
>>2991625035-40k
>>29916295by the daily sacrifice of korean dogs.
>>29916343>pinnacle if vtubingKinda fits in a way
>>29916314Nijibros... our king... he....
Why is Ochame Kinou on the list but not Can you do the hololive?
>>29916314>King slipping againKingbros...
>>29916250about 40k I would say
>>29916314Bronze Boi...
>>29916295What else are they going to do, watch streams?
>>29914686>>29916314OH NO NO NO NO NO
>>29916250Sub 30k
Chance of EN3 being announced at CRX: 0%
>>29916404she streams regulary on her rm though?
ok my wallet is safe.
What's the highest Niji orisong?Hope in the dark... Niji JP BTFO
>>29916295She always has the viewers in mind.
fist time watching holo ochame kino i cant name all of them
>>29916423Every event of EN is "surprise"
>Matsuri Rust at 19:00, Pekora and Anya will most likely stream it as wellKino incumming tonight.
>>29916314
this hag is still incliningpretty sure she gained over 500k in the past 24 hours
>>29916295It's 5th now, Phony just passed it.
>Kaela 7.8kHoly shit hagsmith inclining
>>29916423October at the earliest, and not announced at a convention. It's not an Ubisoft game. They'll just announce it on twitter randomly like a week before.
>takes 32 women to beat KingAmazing I kneel to Milord
>>29916295I fucking love Ojou. Hardwork fags eternally btfo.
>>29916314KING will get his revenge today, just you wait
>>29916426lolno
>>29916023ok thas BS this song has 19.8M views https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZL4-f3jRoE
>>29916295
>>29915808where have you been anon, she's always killed covers.
>>29916295it's not even a particularly well sung cover or an incredibly well animated music videoi'm baffled
I wonder.. do holomembers have written rules if they want to play rust together on the server
>>29916484My oshi is the biggest vtuber in the world right now!!
>>29916562He doesn’t count the topic channel versions.
>>29914056Reminder this is why chumfags hate hours watched and will try to gaslight people against it. Because Gura gets fucking mogged by Kaela because Kaela streams and can keep an audience and Gura can't.Overall Kaela is the superior streamer. Get ready for the "Uhhhhh actually less content is good chud" cope.
>>29916593thats dumb. numbers are numbers
>>29916387Some people don't count it as a song.
You know, one thing I wonder is whether Mori can use her new 3D in her MVs now, or she will still have to settle with the reaper outfit
>>29916645Then what the fuck is it lmao
>>29916655It's kinda ridiculous that she doesn't have multiple 3D outfits for each song.
>>29916635Yeah but a) they’re way more of a pain to go through and b) do you put them twice, combine them?
>>29916180>Suisex
>>29916599I wonder why she still end up no.14
>>29916645If that doesn't count as song, then none of Mori's rap count as songs
>>29916690Same as Suisei. She has different outfits for each original songs.
>>29916690Her rapper outfit is not in 3D yet, no? (Not counting the one shown in NWO, of course)
>>29916484Yeah it got picked up HARD by the algo I also notice Pekora Cinderella cover also got picked up too. Fuck if only Pekora cared enough to put her song on YouTube, literally free number right there
>>29916688I would put the highest number. Simple as.
Bunny streaming rust. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-qHpuiykRcbut it wont be enough today unless King seriously under-performs.
>>29916576YesThe council of Holo Rust sit down together to make some rules after Matsuri go menhera
>>29913992I believe this rrat. It's just strictly business.
>>29913992You are describing Salome
>>29913992This but with nijisanji
>>29916801>Matsuri go menheraqrd
>>29916576Suisei made the rules after Matsuri's menhera moment I think.
Both Miko and Pekora decided to murder the Holosummer mainchannel stream. That's what you get for scheduling during primetime Cover.
>>29916717
>>29916798Pekora and Nousagis being right about their queen >>29916467MARRY ME PLEASE PEKORA I BEG YOU,
>>2991671714 is the year of her life when she lost her virginity to Jay.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tsbofZPNCMTop 10 from 1 to 10-HOLOLIVE-Mori-Mori/Gura-Ayame-Sui-Gen3- Mori/Sui- Peko - Aqua -Sui Actually way more diverse than just Mori and SuiseiFunny how both of them tied if we count collab, but Suisei will win if only single count
>>29916900Matsuri literally talked about it before, they are going to do an all out war, Miko and Koyori are joining and probably Fubuki and Suisei too
>>29916866Accidentally killed Peko, which caused some retard accusing her for streaming sniping
STOPPU REECH
>>29916738No. Just default and Sololive.
Which are the most viewed homos' songs btw? Does anybody know even if it's by memory?
>>29916900This is easy to predict though. Everyone knows that rust server will reset tommorow.
>>29916960Huh Pekora? How the fuck did she get there?
We can all agree that the way Council was announced was extremely poorly handled. Can you think of a way for management to debuff EN3 even worse than they did council?
>>29916599today i will remind them when gura used to stream for 5-6hrs
>>29916116Because Reflect got split into like, 3 versions. It's got about 25 million overall. Whereas for Mori and Suisei their topic versions always add up to their normal versions since they're music channel (a retarded feature)
>>29916960still there is 5 Sui on there
>>29917011A bunch of the non DeathStar songs on their have been out since pre EN so even if they grow at 50k a week like the Bully MV they’ve had time to rack up the viewcount.
>>29917011You're pretty new right?
>>29916798Don't think it would be enough to beat King, he just won the Fall Tournament last stream and will play the Spring Koshien this stream so numbers should be high.
>>2991703124 hour timer to a lore video narrated by Mori Calliope.
>>29916992no actually she ruin the best clip moment
>>29917062I fucking hate topic channels.
>>29917062Who cares marine have 15M+ in her channel and 19M+ on topic.
>>29917062Actually the topic version counts for total views on the channel but the topic views are counted separately for the actual song. See the Bully topic version having more views than the MV
>>29917033>hardcore until i diehot
>>29917077I did not watch that stream. I just assume if it’s music Pekora won’t be present and so I don’t careBut we’ll, I don’t know what metric they use to rank the songs anyway, shit seem random as fuck
>>29916599Literally what random ass spergout made you bring up Gura and watch hours. Fucking rent free, dude
>>29917165Views
>>29917011Your introverted rabbit idol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAr2lHZLNyU
>>29917160ToT
>>29917165Yeah, you are pretty new
>>29916993
why the minecraft buff only works on kaela today?
>>29916798>Starting the same time as Miko RustIncoming KINO!!!!
>>29917209Because Kaela is the one who got adopted by Gura
>>29916599Please don't shitpost my hagsmith wife, anon.
>>29917033Oh yeah look at this horrible retention for a long stream.
>>29917031Return of Omega
>>29917209People seem to use Kaela as sort of background noise. Calm voice, soothing BGM, repetitive actions, stream for 8-10 hours straight ect.
>>29917209Kaela was blessed by Gura
>>29917011Long long time ago, that was the only cover song she had, so nousagi looping this song until their ear turn into rabbit ears
>>29917209Kaela got big exposre and now she has an audience. Just like it happened with Moona. They developed and worked for a "I play minecraft good" reputation, then a big holo blasted that message to most of the audience via their channel/the clips it generated. Now people tune in to watch the minecraft NPC play her fakkin minecraft.
>>29917209Nobody want to watch Ollie
how are pekomiko beggers different than homobeggers? why beg when the streamers clearly don't want to do it?
>>29916960>Twice in the top 10Can't beat the bunny cunny.
>>29917197>Make 1 hit song>Release nothing but flop for the next 2 yearsHow?
>>29917209ollie killed her ID fanbase by berating them and then killed the few ENs by streaming dogshit games. Not to mention her twitter antics.
damn it why cant streams start an hour after https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rWo60xtoEo
>>29917209Ollie got 3k on minecraft, it's literally more than what she usually got
>>29916599Stick to "she's not streaming" because "poor retention when she is streaming" is easy to BTFO.
>>29917301Pekomiko shippingfags are annoying, but homobeggers only care about using the girls' popularity to boost the men.
>>29917331Retard, listen to the kino songs. She barely made any advertisement for her three Orisongs so obviously these wouldn't get much views.
>>29917300i hate her for pushing her unityfag agenda too hard, not doing it slowly like risu and iofi
>>29917331She uploaded this cover back when Vtuber as a genre just started booming out in West and it remained as her sole music related content in her channel for a long time. Kind of similar to how Ayame's Goodbye Sengen keep racking up views being the sole thing Nakirigumi keep looping to hear their oshi, Discommunication Alien was the only one nousagis could loop and it becomes a habit.
>>29917209minecraft is a comfy gamekaela is comfyollie is the exact opposite of comfy
>>29917393But don’t Iofi and Risu do worse than Ollie?
Another day, another easy double gold for Hololive...
So, Nijigold today? I don't think Hololive has anything that can beat Fuwa's morning radio or Saku's Koshien.
>>29917301>how are pekomiko beggers different than homobeggers?Pekomiko actually used to exist and isn't an existential threat to anyone's numbers. The opposite really. But collab beggars have always been a thing, homobeggars are just the worst incarnation of them since they barely care about holos or homos or watching their chemistry together, really. Just their moral crusade.
Btw Pekora sub moved againBet the nousagi, being the numberfag they are, decided to silently push it after they see Marine
POLKA, GET THE FUCKING 20K ALREADY, I'M GETTING NERVOUS
>>29915282It isSuisei's old roommate stuff was horribleWouldn't even be an exaggeration to call it Choco/Ame tier
>>29917372>using the girls' popularity to boost the men.Barely even this, some just want to upset the fanbase of the girls
>>29917331>>29917293
>>29917427Baffling post, they will beat those two.It will be Nijigold anyway tho, King is streaming Koshien
>>29917427My predictions => >>29913699
>>29912447Vesper is truly the Aruran of stars EN.
>>29916993You know EN vtubing is fucked when someone as talentless as fucking Noir is getting sucked off so hard.
>>29917427>Forgot King Koshien
>>29917204>>29917160Not everything has to be about sex you hopeless coomer retards
>>29917544
>mumei birthday nearingwhen holo en's birthday be on the same level as holo jp...
Fuwa is going to take a lot of the predicted hologolds for this month, huh,
>>29917033>Over 1 year agoThis reminds me of when the Nakiricucks argue that Ayame streamed 2 times a day back when she started
>2022 >there are still zero Holo and Niji JPs who speak EnglishWhat the fuck? And no I mean fluently, Haachama and Hoshikawa don't count.
>>29917439https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8eUrkYNnLYThis was pretty decent, shite mic though.
>>29917590Different culture I guess
>>29917331I'm curious, what's your definition of a hit? 5 million views? 10? 15? In what time span does the song need to reach that threshold?
>>29917611IRyS?
>>29917590When they learn how to>Make things an event>Hype it>Put on a show befitting the hypeIt’s that fucking simple, it doesn’t have to be 3D either, just stop with “Ah it’s my birthday today guys” post on Twitter, follow with random 3D Ame stream where they mess around like a normal 3D stream and end it there
>>29917611
>>29917365RUST is going to kill Hololive summer.
>>29917370>clearly Z-ing the whole stream>t-this clearly p-proves she has g-good retention????
>>29917590They made sure to absolutely kill all the hype for kayfabe
>>29917663HoloEN retard>>29917690Not even gonna
>>29916993It’s kinda funny to think about how NijiEN males were supposed to be bigger than StarsEN and yet it’s the new Stars that get treated like celebs. Iluna is practically orbiting them, might as well just join their entourage
>>29917611>JPThere your answer, communicating with EN is NOT part of their job, never will be
>>29917690based
>>29917592What is he doing this month?
>>29917611anya is fluent enough in english
>>29917669you're pretty retarded if you think a 3D live carefully prepared and managed by cover is even remotely comparable to some scuffed home 3D shit they have to do themselves
>>29917611>Niji JPs who speak EnglishOlivar Evans
>>29917611Oliver.....
>>29917592Is he graduating?
>>29917592Reminder to fuwakeks>>26945467
>>29917746Graduation
>>29917746Morning radio calisthenic
>>29917669It's not like on the JP side the girls are setting up their massive birthday lives themselves
get that 10k kaela, just a lil bit more
>>29917590Never. Even if they somehow manage to recruit 5 guras in the future they'll never has much of an impact as a mid-tier shitter regarding the 3Ds.
>>29917590Literally how can you make it on the same level as HoloJP?>No studio to access>live viewership audience much smaller in the timeslot>even if you can summon all the JP holos to leech off them in totsus like they do each other, their audience is still mostly asleepSo it's impossible to have the same quality AND numbers.
>>29917764>>29917771Imagine joining NijiJP and not EN as a male if you know English
>>29917611>He doesn't know
>>29917707>1 year ago>Zare you shitposting? None of those are Zs, junior
Are there seriously 7k people who have nothing better to do than spend 10 hours watching a hag play minecraft
>>29917730
>>29917762It doesn't have to be a 3D live. Suisei singing on her birthday got 83k Just leverage to your strengths
sorry poruka, 20k is for adults
>>29917959You got issues with that buddy?
FUWA GOLD>FUWA GOLDHOLOKEKS BTFO
>>29918053Cumpedo seething over the fact that Kaela is streaming while their reclining shark is not.
>>29917611Anya
>>29918039What a buff random shit can be for JP huh, if Polka can get to almost 20k
>>29917896He doesn't fujobait and has an outside job, so he wouldn't do well in EN. Better for him to be in JP where he gets main-branch support and merch.
>>29918076Anon, King is streaming koshien today
>>29917209ID really need other buff games besides Minecraft, and Kobo
>>29918076King will murder Fuwa in an hour or so. Don't worry nijikeks, you'll get a gold today.
>>29918076>Fuwalollmao even
>>29918076
>>29918175Fuwa will get gold whenever there isn't a big koshien game. Hololive doesn't have a single thing that can compete with daily 45k+ streams.
>King will reclaim his throne today Thread theme:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rK0krpI5Ch4
why are you fags just watching top 100s? i know its dead hours but jesus christ just wait
>>29918142>outside jobDo Nijis really?
>>29918234>Daily>only last for 1 month>Still loseKEK
>>29918234>45k
>>29918081Save your reclining stock Riku
Pure boy Fuwa vs Whore-filled HoloSummerPeople would rather watch entertaining males than dumbass females.
>>29918257Don't tell me what to do asshole
>>29918234>Lost to a shill stream yesterday
>>29918158>Fuwatard thinks her oshi will keep the same amount of viewers a whole month throughNGMI
>>29918081Get some better material nijibrony
>>29918331FUCK YOU YESTERDAY DOESNT COUNT IT WAS BOTTED BY THE SPONSORFUCK HOLOFAGS
When King gets Gold I'm gonna shitpost and pretend you Holokeks didn't see it coming. I'm telling you all in advance so you give me a pity (you). Such is my life as a Nijinigger.
>>29918292Holo Summer will be the biggest flop since Council
>>29918269His outside job makes him more money and is easier than becoming a full-time streamer.
>>29918288Wow they really dumped it
>>29917412>Minecraft>ComfyDid you ever watch all the big streamers/youtubers? They're the exact opposite of comfy.
>>29918269I mean you dont really get that much money in nijisanji unless your one of the top streamers
400k GET!
>>29918398show me their l2d
>>29918405not surprised seeing as how rosemi is gonna go back to school since streaming isnt profitable for her
Kaela has hit 400k Subscribers on a 10 hour Minecraft stream
>>29918234Do you fags just repeat the same failed shit every month? You said the same damn thing for Salome and that failed, you said the same thing for Koshien and that failed, now its Fuwa's calisthenics?
>>29918192How the fuck can I even hate KING when he keeps pump out kino shits like this lmao
>>29918354
Kaela 400k get
>>29918458retard, enjoy your vacation
>>29918288
>>29918359I botted Fuwa's stream earlier this morning btw, Nijisis.
>>29918269They don't have salary anon Not even Hololive bread-crumb tier money
>>29917611Oliver ......
>>29918458>being this retardedyou are on the same level as the mlp poster
>>29918429Pekora, Miko, Shuba
>>29918107It's because they're able to make it into a buff with funny actions and interactions.Sidebranches should watch and learn.
>>29918429that's irrelevant to your argument
>>29918023oh wow THE singer of hololive at arguably the apex of her hype moment after holofes, with her big live coming right after that and startend about to begin as well, i'm sure anyone can replicate that kind of hypeno really, stop being such a massive retard
>>29918023Yea. Like, for Gura I understand she had to change plans last minute and that for her birthday it was pretty much an emergency 'fuck the original plans got denied, I gotta do SOMETHING QUICK!' so she barely had time to even hype it, but generally the EN gals are pretty bad at building hype, and if anything actively go out of their way to be ANTI-hype with some of their nonsense, like fucking 3am UNARCHIVED karaokes that never get rebroadcast.
>>29918485>>29918513>imagine having only 1 ip
>>29918288the post-lunch crash is real
HOLY SHIT, this retention by Kaela>10h stream lowest point after the start was 6.5k
>>29918288The classic margin trading. I wonder what sucker got caught holding the bag.
>>29918388>>29918486>>29918559>>29918593>implying this is the startjust wait after the dead cat bounce
DANCE BABY DANCEhttps://youtu.be/ixSjzx0Q5x4
Festival and Koyote Rust in an hour, PekoMiko in two. Will Anya and Foobs join?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z20_pslcSvM>loser...together strong
>>29918631>>29913286
>>29918553>Evasionsorry, I'm not that mentally ill
>>29918544ame said she will rebroadcast it. dunno when though.would make sense to use it as a build up to crx but ya know how anti-numbers they are
>>29918527go back to >>>> not /vt/
>>29918584>surprised that a cult streamer has superb retentionits like youve never seen a watame stream before even her retention during sc reading is on a different level compared to other holos
>>29918664now that's... something
>>29918445Doesn't Rosemi get like 10k a month in SC?
>>29918664hololeeches..................
>>29910065took her 10hr to beat alban
>>29918675>not that mentally ill>browsing /vt/
>>29918584I will use this post >>29917707
>>29918458Huh? Did you do anything? I'm still good from the same address I'm in, get better at it nijibrony
>>29918715before nijisanjis 50% cut and add to the fact that she bought a new house last year means that she is screwed on mortage alone
>>29918719nice EN branch you've got there. big collab with JP senpai can't even beat an indo.
>>29918752what a fucking retard
>>29918664what niji kr and uproar median? are they in the same level, otherwise I want to accuse the fewer one as a leecher
>>29918725Hey, at least I'm not ban evading for 10 years straight like some certain schizo
>>29918795if its him you are talking about, you know that the original one died right? and the ones that are left are the 3 copycats
>>29918752No way she did something that stupid. Was she getting high SC before Luxiem and then the boys just tanked her earnings or something?
>>29918795>being good person on internettell your mom, make her proud
>>29917611donta...
Kaela getting a superchat rain for hitting 400k
>>29918752She still makes more money than a normal job could ever give her.
>>29918832even in death he's still plaguing us with his copycattruly the schizo prime
Also: Kaela is getting an express lesson on why those popup notifications with sound on stream are not used anymore for the most part after you reach a certain threshold of success."Watataaaaaaaaa" is buzzing every ten seconds on her stream
Porka... Wait for Pekora please, she'll make you incline to 30k easily just by playing around her.
>>29918838She was better than now at the very least. Now she does lazy content and people are going after new better things. Maria seems to be her replacement.
>>29918715At her current rate of earnings she's taking home less than $2000/month from superchats pre-taxShe'd make about as much flipping burgers
>>29918832nah, not that fast wait until 3 hours maybe
I wonder if there will ever be a NijiEN like Lize who almost never collabs with males and when she does she acts professionally and not overly familiar or flirty.
>>29918795You want someone to pat you in the back for that buddy?
>>29918898that one is the copycatsthe real lee died in 2016-2017
>>29918631Great song. It got overshadowed by Marine's song but it's still doing pretty well. Sakura Kaze is an all time Hololive classic but this is certainly one of Miko's best originals.
>>29918838She had better sc earnings before iirc thats why she bought the house
>>29918891Jesus christ. I mean some Holos only get like 10-20k SC a month but at least they're salaried and get a ton of merch and sponsorships.
TO. THE. MOON. Hololive just can't compete with Nijisanji these days. How long has it been since Holo won a month anyway?
kek, and now Kaela died and zen loss'd because she got distracted by the superchats
>>29918359Anon we all saw the play-store stats, that was natural stream growth.
>>29918986do nijitard really?
>>29918988What is zen loss
>>29918234Sorry fuwa. compared king, youre failure.
>>29918986Nijikek already forgot how they managed to slip last month, ambribaboo.
>>29918752>and add to the fact that she bought a new house last yearHOLY SHIT, no way someone was as dumb as to buy a house at that point in time with some companies buying houses at ANY price, pushing the price up.Tell me it was *not* in the United States
>the thread is getting shitter...oh it's the time
>>29919037
>>29918891SC doesn't equal income. A normal person can live of a couple of hundred viewers, so there's no reason why she couldn't as a 2-3k streamer.
>>29918979they have those voicepack thingies but yeah in terms of profits they are making better than most indies or small corpos but chump change compared to holo
>>29918792>what niji kr and uproar median?Depends on which NijiKR and which UPROAR
>>29919051Women pls undastnd
>>29919100>normal personno nijicut>roseminijicut
>>29919037don't embarrass yourself, you can google
>>29918988did she lose the elytras she found?
>>29918986>more baseball bullshitNijisanji is creatively bankrupt
Reminder that there are some retards that rejected Hololive and went to Snoy/Anykara instead
>>29919100>A normal person can live of a couple of hundred viewersDepending on where they live and what type of merch they're sellingDoes Rosemi have a lot of merch?
>>29918986Guys what can they do after koushien?Im worried
>>29919113The NijiKR numbers will probably look different in the coming months Iluna is really kicking off and cornering the market in Korea and it's going to put a lot of eyes on HoloKR. Riku should release a new KR wave to capitalize on the hype.
>>29918900No. NijiEN will never get such gem as Lize. Also the culture they created, would ruin such person anyway.
>"Z"ultan on Koshien: easy 55k>Sultan on LOL: below 5kLMAO
>>29919075Yes, SEA hours are here
>>29919100This is your reminder that Anycolor is a black company that refuses to provide their livers, literally their main asset, with salary and healthcareRiku is a dirty capitalist scum
>>29919100indies usually rely on merch sales where profit from everything sold goes directly to them after taxessame cant be said of corpos since its tax+company cut thats why most corpo vtubers spam assorted merch
>>29919154Pretty much the same as the other NijiEN. Acrylic stands and stuff. There are even clippers that can live off of clipping vtubers with zero SCs, so I wouldn't worry about her.
oh god the amount of rust povs
>>29919154Foolish Fish makes enough to quit his day job and he gets a few thousand views per videohttps://youtu.be/IrCQVaJ6RnQ?t=82
>>29919220LOL
>>29919113>269>302>316>361they are all at the same level, i cant decide who is leech who, truly ape strong together moment
>>29919248>There are even clippers that can live off of clipping vtubers with zero SCsdidnt nijis clipper recently quit when he couldnt make any profit?
>>29919100Regular streamers aren't splitting their income 50/50 with a company. Niji / Holo members need to be getting around double the numbers of an indie for comparable earnings on contentThen there's the merch situation, the company puts out garbage merch and don't seem to give people much freedom to do better themselves
>>29919248>There are even clippers that can live off of clipping vtubers with zero SCsThat depends greatly on where the person lives. Third world country? Of course. Anywhere near either US coast? You won't be surviving on 3k/month
>>29918986>How long has it been since Holo won a month anyway?About 2 months. What about Nijisanji?
>>29919274You're looking at the "ranking" column. "Median" is the seventh column to the right
>>29919195Come home, Lize...
>>29919334Not since 2020, unironically
>>29919262>2021anon... check current gas and food prices...
sorry holo 20k is for grown ups
>>29919262I mean yeah if we go by that video 2021 rosemi would be living comfy since she had higher sc back then2022 rosemi however is screwed due to lower sc and inflation
>>29919440Does she live in the US? If so she's boned
>>29919389Gas being the biggest one, would explain a lot as to why NA based vtubers for Niji and Holo have had their SCs drop quite a bit. Doesnt make sense to drop 25-50 bucks for not-even-merch, better to save for membership/merch instead. Japan doesn't have as much travel via car, so increased gas prices, while it does affect them, doesn't hit nearly as bad.
>>2991943822k koushien. thats so low.king will destroy this girl easily
>>29919283>>29919291That and what that nijifag said earlier tends to explain why nijien streams more often than holo since unless you are luxiem, you are basically screwed if you take any breaks or relax since it is your only stable means of income
>>29919512Enna took a break and she's inclining now. Even beating most of Myth with her daily CCVs.
HoloEN was a mistake
>>29919460worse, canada
>>29919548
>>29919075you mean prime time?
>>29919548how much is her sc? im curious since its their only means of a regular profit
>>29919548liarsanji.png
>>29919512I do believe that they get a decent amount of merch sales, but since it's produced and funded by Anycolor, and they're not allowed to do custom merch (iirc Selen said she wanted to but got denied?????) They also don't get as big of cuts. Which really means that they kind of HAVE to stream if they've made this their primary means of income unlike some of the slackers in JP who treat it as a side job or a hobby.
kaelafags getting real annoying ngl
>>29919610Yeah NijiJP livers are smart since they treat streaming as a hobby or a side job like Gilzaren Dont know why the EN side doesnt treat it as such since its not profitable especially when youre not luxiem
>>29919489sasaki.. nijikeks sure have to be happy to have king streaming in an hour or so. Starting the month 0-3 would just be to painful.
>>29919612Because she's the second coming of ID
>>29919550There were unironically more people watching Ina's shill stream than actually playing PSO2 at any point in the last month
>>29919612>kaelafags kaela cultist only active on discord and don't care this shit hole, it just falseflagger
I wonder how jealous the shitters of NijiEN are of Luxiem. They make like 10x their income.
>>29919552HOLY SHIT! She's mega boned
>>29919693I mean I would especially after trying to leech on luxiem only to discover that you can really leech on fujos unless your shoto
Why don't NijiEN livers be responsible of their own merch and a small cut would be given to the company instead? Is it because of tax and also security reasons? Someone like Shu could move a few hundred merch in the States if he partners up with a local printing shop.
>>29919612it's not just retard indog using her as new bait
>>29919612lemao. wkwkwkwkwkwkwkwkwkwkwk
>>29919738>Why don't NijiEN livers be responsible of their own merchkek, that's not how you accelerate, kohai
>>29919738Dont know, Maybe anycolor is more strict regarding merch i guess since they shot down some personal merch request from their livers and almost took a cut from that indo fanbase that tried to make some merch for their livers
>>29919738and make Riku get a small cut???
>>29919693I mean honestly as long as you're making a living who cares? Just do what you love. Everything is fine as long as you aren't asking your better off coworkers for this months rent like what happened with Holostars
>>29919550EN is fucking useless>Won't stream>Worst minecraft server>Shit up events and collabs with their lack of enthusiasm and "Is it over yet?" attitudeFuck they suck. The cherry on top is their entitled "Yeah I'm lazy as fuck but you don't get to complain" attitude.
>>29919738maybe this anon >>29919773 might have a point since i think it was selen that got shot down when she wanted to make personalized merchsame with projects i think since enna has some kind of singing project that still hasnt been approved by nijisanji after all these months even though everything else is supposedly good to go
>>29919870kys last samurai
Not sure why people would still want to go into vtubing, streaming is hardly a stable career and even more so wanting to join Anycolor, those guys doesn't offer any job security. Slaving away for the company for 5+ years as 50 EN livers takes your place is hardly an ideal situation, are they (the current nijiEN livers) gonna pretend that all of them are family too?
>>29919662I mean they likely make plenty, but enough to buy a house right away? That sounds dumb unless she bought some place way out from the city in leafland, for like a mortgage of sub 400k.
>>29917732Scarlet Mercedes is a witch and latched on to Magni even before debuts. That is when everyone was shitting on Tempus, now she'll ride the wave to unity and success and leave her trash wave behind
>>29919880I'm comparing them to ID so you don't get to play that card, EN cuck.
>>29919925ogey ken-sama. i can smell the sushi from here.
>>29919870they learned from the best
>>29919870Imagine saying this when gen 2 exist.
JK Marine 40k possible?
>>29919905What a waste of a very good model. She would unironically be 10k+ on EN3 if she was not as dumb as Kronii to hide her best assets
>>29919870
zeta finally decided to step up her game and release her limiter
Has youtube said anything about the priorities of who gets gifted memberships first? Like are your chances higher if you are subscribed and chat a lot or it doesnt matter?
>At current growth rates Kaela would actually beat Reine and Anya to a million. >Zeta will pass Fauna / Bae>Kobo will pass the entire company except GuraID3 Covers biggest success in a long time.
the algo...
>>29919972incline time. it's honestly a waste to have such a nice voice and not use it for that.
>>29919880he's right thoughyou're just seething cause you feel some stupid pride over them
>>29919979ID3 is a masterclass in how to do a gen right while Council is the example of how to make a gen fail.
>>29919972i don't hate her but i still feel she is not a hololive member
Whenever I come here, it's always Holo vs Holo.
>>29919906I mean i know one person who bought a sub 400k house back in 20 after he got a new job only to get screwed over by covid. Might actually explain why she changed streaming habits since thinking about mortage can screw you up
>>29919987>That Vesper thumbnailTempus' thumbnail game is strong
>>29919979The power of gen 3. please dont mess up en3 cover
>>29920030alright faghere
>>29920033Fair, it really does depend on what kind of job stability/savings you have, 'cause between downpayment and mortgage etc...
>>29919987What actually happens if you click "Not interested" instead?
>>29919956She just isn't a good streamer, a nice model can only carry you so far. Her old channel content was just prerecorded fujo shipping videos, not really anything that can translate into being a livestreamer.
>>29920047Myth are telling them to take it easy and not stream too much to avoid burnout as we speak.
>>29919979 ID4 will be more successful
>>29920047en 3 will mix gender and you will like them
>>29920030Not even nijifans want to talk about niji lol
>>29920069>a nice model can only carry you so farworks for Ayame
>>29919987Here is mine, logged in.I can explain it too, Kronii is my (EN) oshi, I checked Kaela stream earlier today and I watched some of the clips of the EN girls visiting the ID server earlier too.Marine and Lamy tho, they're organic recommendations, likely from "people who saw X also say Y">NOW YOU GUYSpost your (logged in) first two rows of recommendations and explain why they're there
>>29919906maybe she got a false sense of security when luxiem inclined to the moon and thought that would also translate into them inclining to the moon?
>>299200774 is cursed number like gen 4
>>29920067it removes the video from your recommendations and gives you two buttons, undo and "tell us why"
>>29920096Still better than gen 5
>>29920089Anon, Ayame is carried by her voice and demeanor. What they refer as her "giggles" that fill her fans with "Nakirium".She could easily just to Twitter Spaces and she would still get a 10k+ audience
>>29920098I see, i was kinda hoping that it would help bend the algorithm to make them recommend me less nijiEN overall
>>29920089Newfags are unaware that Ayame is actually quite talented and build up a large fanbase before she soft retired. Her model isn't even that great. There's a girl in Nijisanji that looks exactly like her except blue and she isn't very popular.
>>29920063yeah which is why im kinda curious especially since some nijifriends here have been saying that she's become more lazy, I wonder if she actually has just given up and will likely quit once her contract is up?also made me curious on other members who are lower than her in terms of sc since if she is screwed then they might be more screwed if they live in the west
But which ID3 would get fired in future?
>>29920087Well someone did say Holofans might know more about Niji JP than they do
>>29920137if you and lots of other people do the "i don't like this video" it might do that
>>29920092Rosemi is one of the people who has done the very least to interact or leech off of Luxiem's success.
>>29920091Here's mine
In case there is a Nikke x Hololive Collab in the future you'll know it's because of me shilling them in the surveysPekora would be pretty damn good as a rocket launcher user in the game.
Man Kaela cant stop inclining.
>>29920170thats actually true.EN nijifans didnt care at all about NijiJP lol
>>29920160Kobo's the only one who could conceivably do something to get fired. Zeta and Kaela are very conventional streamers that just stay in their lane.
>>29920176what i mean is that she might have thought that the luxiem boom might give all of them a boost in popularity even without interacting with them since it brought in new eyes and audiences since nobody knew at that time they would be fujos
>>29920189The fuck is Nikke
EN 3 will be a 6 person generation since the demand for EN members can't stay at 5 per year. The sixth member is a VSinger. The theme is sky, land and sea creatures. Two sky creatures are a dragon and griffin. Two land creatures are lion and snake. Two sea creatures are hippopotamus and a whale.
Rate my YT homepage
>>29920142You don't talk about Kuzuha's wife, about the blue onahole like that. Don't you dare compare her to the lazy Oni whore from Hololive.
>>29920213What did she do
>>29920189based nousagi.
>>29920170They only care about luxiem huh
>>29920114for chink culture 5 is unlucky number, and when nene change her outfit that make them better than 4
>>29920228im guessing its this from googling ithttps://nikke-en.com/
>>29920245She's a kid not used to streaming and living the corporate life
>>29920224Maybe, but that would be a dumb assumption if you don't see any evidence of it actually happening. It's not like she got a brief boom of activity that coincided with Luxiem that has since subsided, she's never really benefitted from them in any way. She just quit her job because she makes enough now to be a fulltime streamer, just like Pomu did.
>>29920245not used to streaming but its unlikely that she might get a yab since id culture is different from jp culture
>>29920242>mostly jps>only en is fauna>battle networkyeah i'm thinking based
>>29920189lol i also do the same and mention all holo's gun user
>>29919947If she roleplay JK yup possible
>>29920242>536 watchingHow do we save CNN?
>>29920010So, have we settled on which council girl to use as The Line from now on? Fauna and Kronii seem like the best candidates because people endlessly complain about them here.
>>29920180>>29920091>>29919987That marine stream, and Marine in general, she really got blessed didn't she?
>>29920189to bad the game play looks pretty shit. or I guess, an acquired taste.
>>29920233>Two sea creatures are hippopotamus and a whalekek, the jokes would write themselves if their RM were found to be fat
>>29920228An ass game, quite literally.https://twitter.com/post_No77/status/1554763279419187207https://twitter.com/Hashimokkorijty/status/1554682161986359296
>>29920311The concept of "the line" is just the lowest CCV Holo EN member that the top Niji En females will try to beat. It's not "whoever in Holo EN people don't like". So it would either be Kiara or Bae.
>>29920142>Ayame is actually quite talentedHoly Pekkers!
>>29920296>It's not like she got a brief boom of activitywasnt she more active and not lazy then? would honestly be not surprised that her dropping the announcement that shes going back to school is her making an out
C'mon Kaela hit 10k
>>29920245she actually worse than ollie constant yabs back thenbut since she's only speak ID, nobody notice her yabs here
>>29920355pekkers would fit right in.
>>29920355GeniusWhat will they think of next
>>29920329Shit taste for you then, as I'm enjoying it a whole lot. With the max settings the game is still running smoothly and the gameplay changes a lot from every other gacha game.
>>29920311either kiara or bae since they have the lowest numbersstill wanna push fulgur though in keeping with the sana tradition
I think i have completely filtered nijien and clippers
>>29919612just endure it, she'll reclines hard soon
>3 fucking rust streams
>>29920389play mc with miko, if she can understand elite english she can bring hype to japanese like pekomoon
>>29920367I thought people hated Fauna and Kronii because they got low numbers. They are part of the failure wave after all.
>>29920233>6 person>Vsinger after Cover was unable to do anything with Irys>Repeating Lion and DragonTry better next time
>>29920420>5peko, miko, koyo, foobs, matuli
>>29920413>England snackbox>British flagKiara just lost any Scottish viewers she may have had
>>29920224Yeah i could see her doing that, Getting into a false sense of security or hope only to realize that its nothing. If i were in her place id also try to stream less due to burnout or depression
I think Gura is ESL shit , i don't know her english what how she sayed anything, IDK may be from her gammar or anything it's bad and schooler
>>29920233Holy shit I just realized EN has zero animal based characters.
>>29920438 thats currently bae or kiara since their the lowest on the holo numbers rank
>>29920170Their own livers don't know about Kuzuha and their logo...
>>29920455yeah, but fubuki, koyori and matsuri started in the same slot, also marine and lamy are on
>>29920474
>>29920397Fingers herself on stream? Flirting with fleshtubers?
Myth, Council, Tempus, and X all had great lore. I like the new lore writers for HoloPro.
>>29920438It's just some schizo for Fauna.For Kronii it's more that she had potential to be 2nd strongest HoloEN and she's wasting it.
>>29920481There's this shark you might have heard of
>>29920171NTA, but I'm doing my part.
>>29920474E N G L I S H press 1
>>29920481>gura>mumei>kiara>ina>bae
>>29920491So, Bae line then? The line has to be someone from Council because of the Fulgur thing.
>>29920513>council>goodnah, characters with this broad of a sphere of influence are bad for lore
>>29919972too late
>>29920245Only actual yab she can do is piss of religious extremists. The rest of the world don't care about them and even if you push some bf drama or something, indogs will just tell you to fuck off.
>>29920413but you still have en
>>29920481???Gura
>>29920438Do you just read the thread without actually looking at any of the graphs or stream numbers or stuff like that? That's concerning.
>his entire channel is one fucking long ass series of zatsudans Holy fuck someone tell this talentless hack to get some content
>>29920417roru, rumao even
>>29920481Kronii, Mumei, Kiara, Gura, Bae and Fauna
>>29920551who are you quoting?
>>29920505Yes i think Gura should more learned it plus
>>29920481>animal based characters.you phrasing kemono mimi wrong...
>>29920556 (me)And Ina
>>29920532bae but if kiara falls below her then its the kiara linestill think it should be fulgur for tradition and in memory of that bogan cunt who gave us the best gift during her graduation
>>29920527>GuraMegalodon/Atlantis, not real >MumeiShe has fucking bird feathers in her hair and represents civilization. She's human and has no wings. >KiaraA fucking phoenix, not real >InaCthulu, not real >BaeFuck you got me
>>29917611All of them can sort of speak English. A chan can hold a conversation in English. Why bother when holoEN never wanted to collab with them? Both Kiara and Bae are collabing less and less with the JP too.Also with La+ I am worried that we are entering a new Chink era.
>>29920591>megaldon>not realanonhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalodon
>>29920570Why you add - ed ??
>>29920551Why aren't you @ing him now Risotto?
>>29920551video games and react streams are the lowest form of stream contentit's just streaming someone else's creative work while making funny noises
Which Niji En actually have pride and do not try to leech off Holos? Elira maybe? Petra? Reimu? I don't remember any of them try to tweet Holos or referencing them or coming to their streams.
>>29920023Yeah, her indie vibe still latches onto her. While Kobo does give a fresh air to the current ID roster and has the blue women's likeability and Kaela simply feels like Reine's stamina and Moona's autism combined on steroid.
>>29920462wonder if pomu is also thinking about jumping ship? the whole getting kiara's attention and trying to collab with her makes sense since she might be thinking of doing a luna
>>29920662Selen. Actually, she almost got leeched by Ollie, good thing NijiEN blocked it
>>29920233Now this is in conflict with claims from A DIFFERENT person, so now I'm really interested in how things will pan out.
>>29920662It's the other way around these days. NijiEN gets better numbers than HoloEN. Look at Alban's smash stream and compare it to any HoloEN stream that was going on at the same time.
>>29920591All vtubers are humans. None of them are actually animals. Except that one literal dog vtuber in Nijisanji. And Debi who is some Twilight Princess looking dog thing (not a real animal).
>>29920648Absolutely retarded post. The vast majority of people that create things are glad when people interact with them and share them with other people.
>>29917611Lui
>>29920662Selen almost got leached by ollie, good thing nijien management blocked that leech
>>29920680Why would Pomu even think about moving to a smaller company?
>>29920701Debi is a devil. It's in the fucking name.
>>29920701don't forget flare