/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>29876691
>not doing something to be popular
You do realize that there are people and groups that go to cons to get more exposure and become popular right?

How do we save Hololive from irrelevancy? Their mindshare is already waning in the west.

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>62,664: Pekora (Hololive)
>59,997: Maimoto (Nijisanji)
>35,749: Leos (Nijisanji)
>31,467: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>28,249: Fubuki (Hololive)
>26,480: Subaru (Hololive)
>20,441: Koyori (Hololive)
>19,120: Miko (Hololive)
>18,933: Patra (774 Inc.)
>17,176: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>16,287: Subaru (Hololive)
>16,149: Sumire (VSPO)
>15,083: Lamy (Hololive)
>13,588: Lamy (Hololive)
>13,139: Koyori (Hololive)
>12,690: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>12,350: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>12,204: Mumei (Hololive)
>12,059: Ina (Hololive)
>12,044: Akina (Nijisanji)
>11,478: Fauna (Hololive)
>11,110: Shu (Nijisanji)
>10,926: Watame (Hololive)
>10,468: Magni (Holostars)
>10,380: Akina (Nijisanji)
>10,252: Ike (Nijisanji)
>10,057: IRyS (Hololive)

>>29876734
>Myth are lazy
Mori is one of the hardest workers in Hololive. Kiara has fuckton of hours streamed. Ame streams a very good amount, just inconsistently. Ina streams normal amounts.
>council is a failure
There are 3 (three) councils with 9-10k regular streams. Something Myth can't boast. Council solidly occupies 3-5 CCV spots, sometimes one of them taking nr 2.

I ask: why do you paint these entire gens with one brush and on what basis?

>>29876524
As an oji-san, the holo merch actually looks decent enough to wear as casual wear, they're subtle enough and don't stand out too much while also having some nice flair to it, heck I could easily rock that Senchou shirt with a nice dark denim and white sneakers.

Reminder that IRyS is neither white nor nephilim. Nephilims are giants and have no wings.

>>29876691
Explain 80% of the guests at OffKai and Phase Connect at AX and Anirevo this year.

>>29876858
Impossible. Vshojo must be spending money to get invited to cons because uh..that's a privilege!

>>29876708
At least put an EN at the end so I don't misunderstand you Nijitard >>29870201 , because beating your Koshien fags with a fucking shilling stream clearly isn't what one would call reclining.

>holoen is now laughable meme right now

>>29876740
dude they're streamers ok. Outside of Bae and Mori none of them have a truly difficult time difference. Ame can stream at 10AM if she really wanted to and play with Kiara just fine

>>29876959

>>29876921
IRyS is the whitest there ever was. She makes others whiter with her mere presence.

>>29876819
/news/ roundup for 02-08-2022
>>29860064
Monthly /news/ roundup for July 2022
>>29772027
Recent clip numbers
>>29845692
>>29845728
>>29846120
>>29846153

From now on any streamers with sub 10k ccv is not allowed to be mentioned in this thread.

>>29876900

I want mio hood that's cool .

>>29876990
It's the power of hope

Have the NijiEN girls crossed the Green Whore line yet?

>>29876969
You're forgetting something somewhat important:
Nearly all of these women have pets. That throws a wrench in travel plans for anyone.

>>29876819
I kinda missed the times we used funny meme images for the OP

>>29877018
Fauna is cute

>>29877069
Holopro OPs make the nijibuddies sperg out. Please understand.

>>29877069
why did we stop doing that anyways?

>>29877018
This is a hololive psyop so in 2 weeks we can't talk about Salome any more. She has amzing VODs, fuck you

>>29876891
Work smarter not harder. They shouldn't be getting mogged by Council on the regular if they were truly working at their best. They had a year head start and WAY more hype carrying them

>>29876941
You joke about this but we already discussed how Cover paid Crunchyroll Expo to shill all their talents including Tempus, to the point where they are probably losing money having so many Hololive members there. Like who is going to go to see Regis? Actually a waste of money to buy him a spot.

>>29876900
based waldo

>>29877098
tribalfaggotry

>>29877061
>have pets
They should have children instead.

>>29877098
90% of the memes we create are hololive centric, and also most of them tend to shit on nijis so that made the nijiniggers get uppity

>>29877098
tribalfaggots and retards

>>29876781
Hololive thriving
Nijisanji in shambles

>>29877126
yeah, with me

King i beg you, go to bed. Stop playing League at 5 in the morning for god sake, it's not healthy.

>>29877161
>telling king what to do
>telling king to stop streaming
pure faggotry

CCV data this month

King > Marine > Pekora > Holomem

>>29877141
THANK ME YAGOO

>>29876900
my piratebay shirt arrived!

>>29877061
Pets is not an excuse if Fauna can leave her old decrepit 20 year old cat to visit the holoen girls multiple times

>>29877161
sub 10k stream incoming, he's towa tier now

>>29877018
the numberrot...

>>29877061
I wasn't talking about flights you retard I'm talking about playing games over the internet via discord. The only ones that truly have a difficult time difference for this are Mori and Bae. Bubba won't die if he doesn't eat for like 3 hours

>>29877192
Everyone should be told to stop streaming league for the good of their own numbers.

>>29877161
Is he at least diamond?

>>29877018
No

>>29877112
Fuck! How'd you find me?!

>>29876819
We are a christian board, remember that before posting

>>29877098
As always, nijiniggers ruin the fun for everyone

>>29877194
> 12K

>>29877233
I can save her

>>29877220
That's fair

>>29877226
King doesnt care about numbers or numberfaggotry
King only wants to stream

>>29876858
Myth gets paid to be there, a musician doesn't live just off of concerts. They are what makes them most money, but without original songs to sing, people don't care.
Myth isn't doing anything groundbreaking apart from being in the right place at the right time to justify their popularity as of now, and it will show in the future if they keep not doing anything special.

>>29876990
Has IRyS ever addressed why she brightens her face so much?

>>29877133
>>29877118
>>29877139
>>29877248
Remind me why we bother catering to them again when all they do is shit up the thread because numbers trigger them?

>>29877327
SUCCESS BREEDS JEALOUSY

>>29877327
because schizos always wins
no matter the hobby you are in
>>>/jp/29050314
>>>/jp/29050265
>>>/jp/26305354

>>29877285
>Myth gets paid to be there
not according to this anon >>29877106

>>29877386
Are you really telling me that Crunchyroll wouldn't want Myth on their con?

>>29877386
That anon doesn't know shit, he thinks Tempus is going to participate in the greet and meet when CR explicitly said they won't.

>>29877386
an anon claiming something with no proof? must be true

>>29877484(me)

>>29877220
Mumei has ended multiple streams early to take care of her stupid dog. She probably takes better care of the dog than she does herself. If I could I would kill the dog so she stops spending so much time on it. Even better if it makes Mumei cry on stream.

>>29877285
>Myth isn't doing anything groundbreaking
going to cons and doing those cafes are groundbreaking though and are the most important part of their job which gives them the most money and exposure. Those meet and greets, concerts and panels will get people to care for you more than streaming #7 game A

>>29877245
Would your god sniff the bum or the number queen?

>>29877539
>dog
That's her euphemism for husband, yes that's me, and yes we always do it dog style as well

>>29877285
>Myth isn't doing anything groundbreaking
What would be groundbreaking then?

Fubuki, Ayame, Rami, Towa

>>29877245
Marine is a good Christian girl.

>>29877563
That's a boon for being popular, not what MADE them popular. I'm not saying that they should stream a lot, I don't give a fuck about that, but they don't have anything to justify their popularity as of now.

Why is Kobo's growth curve still at typical debut levels?

>>29877771
you sound like a jealous nijifan. grow up.

>>29877727
A fucking arc, and not dropping interesting things in one or two streams, for starters.

>>29877727
Personally, I may be a bit biased, but don't you think that Myth has been slacking in the development of their majority NA-based possibilities? EN as a whole, even?
Quite frankly, I think Hololive English has been majorly neglecting the fact that they have access to the world's largest hubs of the Military-Industrial Complex. I'm sure that they'd love to work with Hololive, considering they have many fans who work in those industries, and many opportunities for growth. And think of the merch!

>>29877771
>>29877824
How is streaming groundbreaking? And relying on streaming is a retarded move since streaming is down all across the board since covid is over and people are going outside more. Shouldnt they take advantage of that by going to cons instead of relying on streams to make them popular?

>>29877894
No

>>29877865
Which myth's gun would you buy?

Are people arguing that going to do meet and greets and actually meeting fans which is a good fucking word of mouth spread is a bad thing? Is going to panels and interacting with fans directly whether by answering questions a bad thing? Is this another one of those "they lose more money the more they sell out" type bullshit?

>>29877771
What justifies whether someone SHOULD be popular or not to you then? Why don't you give some examples of people who have a justified amount of popularity and why it's justified?

>>29877865
>Military-Industrial Complex. I'm sure that they'd love to work with Hololive
thats impossible since cover is a foreign based company

>>29877978
Well for one I'd buy my oshi's gun, of course, but I think you're only thinking halfway down the line here.
They've got RAYTHEON around. I want a HoloJET. Get me an F-35 with a Holo-themed wrap.

>>29877983
Im guessing its nijifags who's livers only means of success and popularity is stream spamming

>>29877978
Mori's since the gun itself is so groundbreaking that it can kill anything with just one bullet.

>65 million

>>29878135
News sites and investor groups will believe anything if you technically have the numbers to make that assertion

>>29877978
I'd personally go for a H&K

>>29878135
>adding all your subs together
holy based

>>29877978
Ame's custom-built .50 BMG handgun

>>29877824
The funny thing is that Myth are the only ones who actually play games to completion. Out of Council & IRyS only Kronii really finishes games.

>>29878240
Bae does too. Fauna knows it's an issue which is why she doesn't want to start more "long" games until she finishes asscreed, Mumei barely plays games anymore.

>>29878135
Remember: the best rrats are those sprinkled with some hint of truth.

>>29878204
The me that is subscribed to Marine is different from the me that is subscribed to Pekora, and both are different from the me that is subscribed to Kronii, etc etc.
Funniest shit since McDonald's
>PROUDLY SERVING OVER ONE HUNDRED BILLION CUSTOMERS
idea

>>29877978
>guns
fuck that pussy ass bullshit
wheres my Botan themed RT-2PM2 Topol-M, Cover?

How do we save Fauna, lads?

>>29876990
BasedRyS. The bleaching shall continue!
>>29877302
She lightened herself up so subtly over time, none of her regulars have noticed. I havent watched her in a while and its really noticeable to me. She doesnt have to explain why, shes been getting better numbers because of it and I cant blame her for it. Stuck with a subpar design but carries it with her personality and YabIRyS moments. Thats why shes able to keep people. IMO I do wonder whats coming up for her on terms of an outfit or redesign and who'll be heading that up... Maybe Pako? Complete cope but I wish.

>>29878240
Unironically finishing games is a debuff. Not just stream watchers but even normal gamers don't like finishing games

It's over.

>>29878437
Didnt it just start you retarded nijifag

>>29878389
That's not true. She put the filter early on and kept it the same since then. And why would you want Pako when he designed Sana?

>nowa pulled lower viewers again
SAVE NOWA OJI AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>29877894
Asacoco was groundbreaking despite being just dreaming in the morning.
>>29877983
Never said that. I said that going to conventions is a benefit of being popular, not what made them popular. They didn't do anything apart from being in the right place at the right time.
>>29877993
Music, interesting streams.
>>29878123
Sure dude, I'm a nijifag. I'm always a nijifag.
>>29878240
I said interesting things, not series. Remember WWE? Yeah, me too.

We are entering globalfags hours and I'm clearly outnumbered, and I don't care enough for a discussion that will go nowhere.

>>29877789
It's not just Kobo, ID3 in general is still very high and the rest of ID is getting boosted too, holofes and ID3 just made them all go viral and attract a lot of new (ID) people. Only now it's looking like they're starting to slow down, except Kaela who got a pretty big buff from the MC arc.

>>29878364

Ina got 9k in 10 minutes yesterday and this gay ass game is stalling at 6k. Is this game shit or what

>>29878408
Yeah which is part of the reason for Kiara, Ame, and Mori having low numbers. They all love playing debuff games for a long number of streams with low numbers.

Finana is trying to fuck enough men to make 100 babies in Sims. Numbers?

>>29878631
I'm pretty sure Ina has more people watching her stream than people actually playing the game

>>29878318

Ren Iluna 270K sub
> 3K viewer

>>29878631
There's more people watching Ina than playing on the global server.

>>29878437
>XC2: Torna
Listen, I love all of the Xeno games going back to the Xenosaga trilogy but a stream for a standalone prequel expansion for XBC2 that came out 4 and a half years ago is bad to stream. Especially when XBC3 is right there and is actually a peak, so far, in the Xeno franchise after Gears.

>>29878631
Isn't this one a shill stream? I see it as a good number all things considered, besides it doesn't have the coomer thumbnail so.

>>29878465
It made me laugh though, I thought of you guys immediately.

>>29878517
>Asacoco was groundbreaking
And so is the collab cafe
Or are you thinking that only streaming is groundbreaking

>>29878631
Shill stream is a solid debuff, I'm sure if it wasn't necessary to put the Sponsored By disclaimers she'd have at least another 1-2k by now

*timeloops u*

>>29878713
I’m enjoying it quite a bit so far.

>>29878689
Kson 1.23 million sub
>1k viewer

>>29878713
In this case she's playing all the xenoblade 2 shit before xenoblade 3 comes out so she knows the story.
>XBC2 came out nearly 5 years ago
Kek each day we race closer to my death.

>>29878517
>Music, interesting streams.
So moris concert then

>>29877983
I don't deny cons are good worth of mouth that grow their brand
But it doesn't benefit 99.9% of their fans and only the ones that pay pig to stand around in a big hot convention center. I think prioritizing cons over your main content is gay and it's always been gay

Note that I don't think they shouldn't just never go to any cons. I just don't think they need to turn the ENTIRE summer con season into the HoloEN shilling tour. Prioritize the bigger ones like AX and CR expo and then focus on the rest of the fans. All the cons in the world won't help their numbers if they start to slip because of a lack of content (Mori)

someone got that pic from 5ch were they were celebrating salome beating holos?

>>29876878
So true Nijisis!

Speaking of which, that Myth cafe in Korea in on an endless loop of "restock, gets sold out, restock, gets sold out". Why not just get the entire inventory out there

INCLINING

How did 5ch react to marine hitting 2M?

>>29878928
Because then they'd have to fucking end the cafe early

>>29878672
NIJIEN FEMALES ARE

W H O R E S
H
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S

>>29878928
its a buisness thing to drive up demand since you are more likely to buy something that might sell out thatn something thats readily available

>>29878713
>actually a peak, so far, in the Xeno franchise after Gears
Hot damn, for real?

Daily reminder for holoen fags

>>29878928
What, like this thing I don't understand that I think is some korean fan convention?
https://twitter.com/seoulpopcon/status/1551436065289826304

>>29878800
Fair enough on her honestly. Jin is a favorite anti-hero of mine and I hope she likes(d) him enough. Fair play.

>>29878672

>>29878928
hold on I'll make you a graph

It hurts the kokoro

>>29878713
Wait Xenogears and Xenoblade are the same saga?

>>29878928
Scarcity sells in hobbies such as this. And imagine cover ever getting enough inventory for the demand since they always tend to undershoot it.

>>29878796
Gura 4 million subs
0 views (no delivery)

>>29879079
>the fucking deep dive and instant jump up
Is that still fucking happening

>>29879103
the waiting room verification thing? yeah

>>29877983
Nijilivers aren't doing it, which means it's bad!

Do you think Isegye Idols will collab with Iluna in the near future? Iluna has explosive popularity in Korea right now and a collab would be the perfect thing to make Nijisanji go fully mainstream over there.

>>29879165
Actually they fucking are.
In person, supposedly.

>>29878928
Basically, logistics is a bitch. They probably underestimated the demand up front, and everything past that point is effectively them getting bottlenecked by how much stock they can get at a time, whether it's non-perishable merch getting fucked by the global supply chain still being kinda iffy or the food stuff getting bottlenecked by how much their staff can prepare per day.

>>29879167
I know that theres a lot of Luknights in korea but why would Luna collab with isegye?

>>29878503
I already said that he will have 0 ccv on day 20 of his zatsudan as he keeps losing 400ccv every stream.

How big of a deal is Holo Summer? No idea why people are freaking out over it

>>29878928
Those are the cake things right? dont know if its related but theres a shortage of sugar and flour there if i recall

>>29879045
I want to breed Miko.

>>29879011
To me at least, they synthesized XBC 1 and 2s combat and between the two opposing forces and made 6 abilities or 3 fused together with a class unique move. Used the leftover ghosts concepts from X. Got rid of the over the top style acting in some places, its still a little cheesey but great. Overall Im enjoying it a lot, plus they optimized it leagues above XBC:DE and 2. This is just me gushing though.

>>29879190
Still think that's a stupid fucking idea, just need one insane stalker fan or leaky backstage staff and they're all instantly doxxed. Well, I mean they all are already, but still.

>>29877983
This thread only cares about CCV and lately stream hours, everything else is a waste of time and money, please understand.

>>29878503
as i said debut buff is getting lower and lower and they will go to 1-2k ccv and maybe even dip 3view territory

>>29879190
Oh, no, how will holofailures even compete?!?

>>29879325
oh nyo

>>29879334
They can't retard. Get it through your retarded skull:
Nijisanji is better and more popular than hololive. Now fuck off.

>>29879389
yeah same with those retards

>>29879254
Anon, here's a snippet:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzM_WXROmPI
Now, after watching it, let me know how hard your pp is

Beijing woke up early today.

>>29879085
Same universe, technically, but just not referencing or using anything from Gears since that was published under SE. XenoSaga and Blade are definitely connected though.

its so hard for me to tell if its bored falseflaggers fishing for yous or actual discordfags anymore its impressive because even falseflaggers usually leave after a few hours and they get their you hits.

>>29879254
not a big deal at all. the stream on the main holo channel will probably get 30k CCVs if they're lucky.

>>29879325
Eh... I really can't see any of Iluna or Tempus dipping into 3view at this point. They would have to choose an omega debuff stream in overlap hell for that to happen. At this point, if any EN chuuba/liver literally just streams when no one else is, they'll probably pull at least 1k unless they're just reviled

>>29879389
Anon tempus and iluna will loose their debut buffs soon and from what i can tell theyre gonna be on the same range ccv wise

>>29879397
But I'm agreeing with you...

>>29879325
>>29879238
I'm not tribalfagging here but there's no real precedent to judge this off of, since this is holostars en establishing its own audience. The only closest example would be luxiem, which definitely got its own audience, but they have no comparable trends in any regard.

>>29879437
Pretty sure nijiEN girls have western paypigs, while nijiEN boys are the one that panders to Chinese fujos.

>>29879473
Holostars in the same tier as a post-Luxiem nijiEN wave? That's impressive.

>>29878928
>>29879074
Done
Economics lesson 101 for the day is complete

Interesting info relating to numbers on Twitch. The following information is from a popular YouTuber named Spiffing Britt. This information was obtained through research, being Twitch Partner himself, anecdotes from other Twitch Streamers, and paying off Twitch employees for information. He did not sign an NDA for any of this.
Source https://youtu.be/1uzX4ZQvl-k
Around 2 hour mark.
>Discoverability is top-heavy and utterly abysmal on Twitch. The system is geared to boost only the top streamers, and everyone else is at a severe disadvantage. Spiff cites Twitch's horrible VOD system and (lack of) good recommedations as the key factors.
>Youtube gives way more tools to streamers to promote their stuff. Between thumbnails, scheduled streams, stream trailers and premieres, you are ahead before you ever begin a stream. Analytics indicate all of this really matters: there is a significant viewership boost associated with all of these.
>VODs. VODs, VODs, VODs. According to Spiff and a number of his acquantances, Stream VODs are some of his best-earning videos, in spite of being less popular on paper. Furthermore, they help prevent burnout, as they pay the streamer even while they're not actively streaming. In contrasts, the Twitch vod system is finicky, not promoted at all, and is a victim of the aforementioned ad system.
>Ads suck. Not only is the system ruthlessly aggressive, but it's not even efficient for advertisers. Apparently, companies are not getting the kind of conversion ratios that YouTube provides, which explains the repetitive advertising on the website.
>Twitch subs don't pay well, especially after the introduction of regional sub pricing. It was a success in terms of raw numbers, but has lowered payouts for the average streamer. Thanks to currency conversion shenanigans and some quirks of Amazon's cuts, it takes an average of eight hundred concurrent subs just to hit UK minimum wage. In contrast, YouTube does cover currency transaction costs. Furthermore, the aforementioned discoverability issues mean that maintaining subs is hellish. A break of a week or two can drop subs by as much as thirty percent, more so for less established streamers, while YouTube's data apparently indicates that this drop is far less steep for that platform's streamers. It has gotten to the point that getting intentionally banned might be the best way to go on holiday as a Twitch streamer: between the press and the boost you get from the return stream, you might actually be able not to lose a signficant part of your sub income.
>Superchats versus Bits: Youtube takes 30% out of every superchat and, again, covers any currency conversion fees. Twitch, in contrast, takes 40%, and still doesn't cover currency conversion, which takes a significant chunk of low-Bit donations.
>In spite of all of this, Twitch is actively bleeding money. According to Spiff's sources, a hour of anyone streaming costs Twitch up to $55 at a baseline and the revenue is not close to justifying these costs. The aggressive ads do little to fix this: companies are not seeing the same impressions on Twitch as on Youtube, and as a result, CPM ratios are abysmal. Apparently, Spiff is getting 15-20$ for a thousand ad views on YouTube, compared to getting less than a dollar per a thousand viewers for Twitch's far more aggressive ads.
>The management seems to be in an abysmal state. In response to the unprofitability, Twitch management seems to have only doubled down on bad decisions. They've cut useful community liason positions, and apparently, there are rumours of a gacha mechanic for emotes, including, believe it or not, Koopy-based emotes? The bad tech koopys, not the questionably delicious sandwich koopys. Spiff relates an anecdote of Twitch highlighting a Brazil based streamer who runs ten minutes of ads each hour as what they consider an ideal streamer.

>>29879471
>Eh... I really can't see any of Iluna or Tempus dipping into 3view at this point.
I mean fi theyre smart yeah but there are precedents for both cases in iluna theres petra and reimu who sometimes dip in those territories while tempus we have stars which also dip into those territories

>>29879433
AYAME YOU BITCH PLEASE JUST START STREAMING AGAIN AIIIIEEEEE YOUD BE A TOP TIER HOLO IF YOU DID PEOPLE LIKE YOU JUST BECAUSE YOU EXIST

dont look numberfags... just dont look

>>29879538
I'm not reading all that. Go fuck yourself.

>>29879524
>luxiem
try below or on the same level as noctyx
stars dont have the zhang fujo numbers that buffs luxiem

>>29879538
Spiff streams on Youtube of course he shits on twitch. He release curated videos more than streams of course views matter more than ccv for him.

>>29879621
Noctyx are even more popular than Council, so I'd still call that a win.

>>29879079
why are holo's graphs like this lately?

How did the thread react when Vesper mogged Kiara in her own timeslot?

>>29879646
>>29879615
At least read the sections regarding Bits vs Superchats and ads.

>>29879676
more interest in vesper discussing connection issues at the same time he had fluctuating numbers on his graph

>>29879538
>Twitch, in contrast, takes 40%,
doesnt that depend if your a tops streamer or not? since i remember xqc being able to reneg it to 10-15

>>29879103
Anon...That's the transition from the waiting room to the stream.

>>29879254
Irrelevant. The OG Holosummer was just 3d coombaiting. This won't even be that.

>>29879103
Tell us you're a newfag without telling us directly

https://twitter.com/RyeProject/status/1550329091739463680
God, I really hope this girl makes it into EN3. Imagine the seethe.

>>29879672
>Noctyx are even more popular than Council
anon...

>>29879714
It's a 50% cut if your not a top or partnered streamer. 40% is if your a partner.

>>29879747
I am surprised she is not a 3view.

>>29879747
Ah, the double NijiEN Z

>>29879786
Same but wolfychu
Imagine the cuckposting

>>29879706
no. fuck off.

our boy fuwa has 39k people for morning radio calisthenics

>>29879471
>at this point
>not even two weeks after debut
Why are you people like this.

>>29879801
EZ gold.

>>29879804
How does Baelz have a median peak of 8k. Every time I see her stream she's slumming it under 5k.

Just curious. Will the success in anime con in Canada translate into ccv for kronii and IRyS? Yesterday IRyS' stream passed 10k but it is a buff game so I cannot tell yet.

>>29879895
>median peak

>>29879809
Wait no I fucked that up. 40% is I think the current standard cut Twitch takes for Partnered streamers. Streamers like XQC definitely have more favorable cuts but that's exclusive only to streamers of his size.

>>29879908
probably not. going to small cons is a chump's game. best to focus on streaming consistently and aiming for a ComiCon appearance.

>>29879856
>our

>>29879827

>>29879908
ccv? no

>>29879804
>shu below the rat and the alucard guy
this chart reeks of bullshit.

>>29879908
Con growth is low in terms of CCV increases, high in terms of direct monetization.
You probably won't see a much higher CCV from IRyS and Kronii packing panels, but they'll have sold a lot of merch and, depending on meet and greet, depending on if the con has them, generated/strengthened the most hardcore of your fans.
Plus, if you take global rumors at face value, a bit of personal enjoyment for the talents.

>>29879747
>but muh Z is caused by chink VPNs
So who is this magical chink VPN audience watching Finana at 5 in the morning?

>>29879942
Why is the larger you are, the smaller your cut is? Isn't it supposed to be the other way around?

>>29879965
o u r b o y

>>29880014
who are you quoting?

>>29877789
Not it isn't her incline started well after her debut, when some some ID e-celeb spotlighted her to his audience.

>>29879908
I would imagine people that would go to watch Irys and Kronii were people that are already fans of theirs. I don't think it would pass as an increase on CCV from new viewers but rather just build up a more stable core fanbase for better ceilings in future streams.

>>29880022
Twitch takes 40%. I might have fudged my words a bit.

>>29879786
reading other posts about her, she would rather be a regular streamer than vtuber by the sounds of it, but again indies say alot of things and the prospect of corpo money can change someones tune really quick probably especially an anon said she was having money problems months ago.

>>29880022
because they dont want them to jump to other streaming platforms so they give them concessions

>>29879997
Why don't you calculate his median yourself and show it to the class then, Nijisister?

>>29880022
Twitch uses "highly based" strategies for generating money based on policies that Jeff Bezos finds to be acceptable in modern society, such as "regressive taxation policy" and "minimal exposure for up-and-coming talents to preserve the winning leader's top spots."

>>29879804
I think you're making numbers up. There's no way Mori has been above 8k in half her streams in July

Yet another day where gold is decided early. This thread is going to be really boring until after the next tally.

>>29879856
Wtf. Don't tell me this normie shit will get gold today.

>>29879895
Less streams to destroy her average. And the times she did stream were relatively buffed due to the offcollab streams. She'll normalize and create the Bae line this month unless she plans more buff content with her room being finished just unfurnished.

>>29879997
I agree, Nijilivers never lose! This is bullshit!

>>29880022
Soft power
The more popular you are the bigger your soft power is so streaming platforms will do everything they can to keep/get you
Its the reason why yt offered ludwig sykunnno valkyrae ridiculous sums of cash and why twitch doubled that amount for pokimane

>>29880126
Eh, the Mumei/Ame VR stream could be a surprise big deal, depending on what happens. Probably already locked, but still.

So.. Anything major scheduled for tonight?

there's supposedly gonna be a big war in HoloRust later before the server resets tomorrow. Pekora vs everyone else. Potential numbers?

>>29880185
That shit is getting 17-18k max

>>29880219
>Potential numbers
There will be numbers, potentially.

>>29880127
Only went to 45-46k but Fuwa finished the routine so he ended the stream after 20 min.

>>29880234
Will you suck our dicks if they break 20k?

>>29880219
1 v 5 or whatever it is wont really be a war? especially not vs pekora since she pretty bad at fps.

>>29878135
That marketing speak is suspect even by extremely loose standards. I'd have gone for "tens of millions of fans all over the world" and you'd be correct in all sense of the words.

>>29880261
I'm still waiting for the previous one

>>29880185
There isn't even a fucking reservation, is it even going to happen?

>>29880219
30k max. the rust buff is wearing off. holo's minecraft buff wore off recently too, so they don't really have anything left that can compete with niji.

What the fuck was that 18 minute 45k stream from Niji?

>>29880298
Probably?

>>29880306
A show of power. Hololive has been getting uppity lately with that Holo Summer thing and they need to be put in their place.

>>29880306
the radio calesthetics one?

>>29880298
If its on ame's channel don't expect a waiting room until an hour before the scheduled time + 30 mins of tech difficulties

>>29880306
Morning exercise apparently.

>>29880261
No, but it’s Ame and Mumei, I’m giving it a max peak of a old mumei Karaoke. If she gets 20-22k it just means she has increased her ceiling, which is good.

>>29880391
lmao. imagine hololive losing gold to this every single day going forward.

>>29880304
nah

>>29880392
Ame is a debuff

>>29880358
>A show of power
Thats sad if thats the case seeing how pekora can easily jump over that number
Man nijisanji really has decline from 2019 huh...

>>29880423
It will be disqualified if repeated.

>>29880438
That’s my point.

>73 waiting for the hololive summer stream
NGMI

>>29880306
Morning radio calisthenics. Basically morning stretch and light exercise routines. It was a really popular series last time Fuwa ran it with tons of guests as it went on and was genuinely entertaining. This is the first day of the 2022 edition.

>>29880474
not sure if newfag retard or niji retard

>>29880306
I'm honestly disappointed it wasn't longer because it's still within potential slip territory depending on who streams today. What's with Nijisanji and missed potential lately?

>>29880123
its median peaks, and counting peaks 8/17 are above 8k and theres like 3 streams under 8k that are basically 8k themselves. that leaves 6 streams under 8k by any large margin.

>>29880491
nijisanji really keeps knocking it out of the park. hololive won't even get a break once koshien ends lmao.

>>29880306
And he will does it everyday so you better watch out holokek

>>29880219
See the smart play would be to hire Botan as a mercenary and just let her run wild before reset.

>>29880123
Was going to say you can just fact check it, but I went to check it anyways, it was close, she only had 1 more sub 8k stream than over 8k stream. Her median peak should be 7,790, they missed 1 lower-end stream and got the average of that peak with the 8,134 to get that, not sure how if that's automated and it shows 17 streams.

>>29880527
its radio morning exercise you really cant stretch it that much at most you can go to 30 mins but at that time everyone is tired since the target audience for this is usually kids and old people

>>29880487
>13 hrs before it begins
Honestly, I can't tell if this is bait.

>>29880567
It will not be counted. This is a Hololive thread and garbage gimmick streams will not be permitted. Sorry.

>>29880567
Engish

>>29880211
Hope you like old PC dismantling.
Also Axel playing Hitman tonight, which I've only seen Coco and Suisei play, so I'm a bit excited to see how that plays out.
We also got Digimon Survive Collab from Bae and Kronii later tonight.

>>29880610
good thing your not in charge then nijitard

>>29880594
He's cooking the books for Hololive

>>29880651
>which I've only seen Coco and Suisei play,
Fauna...

>>29880596
I forget that not everyone goes on 2 hour hikes, did martial arts, or hit the gym for at least an hour like I did. I genuinely think it could at least be stretched to 1 hour.

>>29880691
I miss her..... uuuuuuu....

>>29880487
wait wait, when is holosummer starting?

>>29879514
> western paypigs
western (chinese) paypigs

>>29880610
Is this because of the new rules to not count Z's?

>>29880691
Fauna is a figment of your imagination anon, you need to let her go.

>>29880650
Learn your english retard

>>29880787
the girls dont have zhang paypigs even with the pandering they did most of the time they are gaijins

>>29880737
it worked well for him last year because fans made it part of their daily routine, watching it before they left for work or something. not sure if a longer stream would be the same.

>>29880805
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVjI7AGLel8
fuck you it's real

>>29880855
What JP time does he usually do them?

>>29880800
nah its a shitposter, z's are counted but only the non z peak is counted and not the z peak

>>29880902
6:30am

>>29880886
based

>>29880450
Well Nijisanji hasn't won any month since 2021...
And with the chink takeover, it's more about profits and less about SOVL.

>>29880907
Is it counting this month onward or is it last month?

the history of Z discussion
>Before Sana's graduation
>H: Z shouldn't be counted
>N: Z should be counted
>After Sana's graduation
>H: Z can be counted but it should be used in the same manner everywhere.
>N: Z shouldn't really be counted. Not really. What I mean is, Z shouldn't be counted from now on. Right. Yea lets go with that.
>H: And the peak for the stream is the other none Z peak right?
>N: .......... ....... ....... yea.... sure....
>Today
>N: Hah, MIKO Z'd her whole stream shouldn't count!!!!!!!!!!!!!! holobronies btfo!
>H:..............

>>29880852
> gaijins
(chinese) gaijins

https://twitter.com/nanashimumei_en/status/1554588539613958145
No surprise gold from here today

>>29880961
2020 anon.. nijisanji has not won a month since 2020.

>>29880610
https://www.vstats.jp/leaderboard/2021-08-02
It was counted last year and the first day it only get 14k but getting stronger and stronger everyday till the end of August.
Today he starts with 45k and I can already see holokeks are sweating themselves.

>>29880976
this month

>>29880594
Isn't it because there were 4 premieres in July? Those don't count, right?

I retract my previous statement. Altare will probably hit 3k today because Mumei is playing Apex instead

>>29881062
Unironically it's because of the series return buff.

>>29881046
Nah, I was correct. The chink company won a few months in 2020.
The holo take over began at Q2 2020.

>>29881062
>getting stronger and stronger everyday till the end of August.
proof? im curious to see if niji has any chance this month

>>29881044
NijiEN supremacy for the day I guess

>>29881044
I fucking knew it. I get it's Ame doing it by herself but you would think her taking the entire fucking day off not streaming yestserday would have this prepped but nope

>>29881179
https://www.vstats.jp/leaderboard/2021-08-02

>>29881044
Uggghhhhhhh Apex, might as well pirate Dohna Dohna again.

I don't NijiJP spamming normie shit. Better way to kill their company.

>>29881092
>4 premieres
Not 4, to be exact. 3 premieres, and 1 video upload.

>>29881220
only see 1 day there though? post a tally of the numbers and links since i wanna see this incline

>>29881062
45k is beatable.
Nijisanji still lost despite having a longer Koushien last year.
August is still a Holo month.

>>29881205
Wosemi is not sexy

>>29881044
Are the JP girls for Niji/Holo as incompetent as the EN ones? Or do EN talents have a special type of autism?

>https://twitter.com/Fuwa_Minato/status/1554459905335382016
Did any anons here keep a tab on this. I dont think anyone has. Then again it was only streamed for like 20 minutes. Is Fuwa a hard hitter at all? Shit got around 70k likes on twitter the live numbers would be interesting to see.

>>29881320
Nigger they're getting no fucking help for their VR shit

fuck off?

>>29881062
Ohnonono, Holobros... can we be sure that we can pull more than 45k+ (assuming similar incline rate as last year, will be around 70k by the end of the month) for 14 more days this month?

>>29881279
You can click the date yourself if you want you fucking retard.
He did that thing the whloe August.

Even tho I quit Pvp MMO games, I can still get all the random shit talking from here. Massive amount of rrats with no proof created and the losing sides having to cope with each small victory. Only weird part is that the Zerg (nijisanji) is the one losing somehow.

>>29881303
i will pollinate this flower

>>29881172
nijisanji did not win any month 2021. The only month that has been up for debate was August. It was believed to be corrected to be a Niji win, but anons have shown that the 2 streams that flips the month for nijisanji occurred after midnight and such didn't account for the gold. This is the real result for that month.

>AUGUST
1) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 85,309 - AR live
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 31,008 - Payday 2 collab
3) Miko (Hololive) - 36,181 - GTAV
4) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 51,821 - Winning Eleven collab
5) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 52,844 - Eden-gumi profiles
6) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 156,062 - Celebrity APEX
7) Flare (Hololive) - 60,571 - 2nd anniversary 3D live
8) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 70,127 - Niji Koshien practice
9) Aqua (Hololive) - 84,057 - 3rd anniversary 3D live
10) Hal (Indie) - 72,466 - VSaikyo S3 landmark lottery
11) Marine (Hololive) - 94,400 - 2nd anniversary 3D
12) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 65,011 - Niji Koshien 2021 pre-show
13) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 147,639 - Niji Koshien 2021 A-league
14) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 170,896 - Niji Koshien 2021 B-league
15) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 205,448 - Niji Koshien 2021 finals
16) Ollie (Hololive) - 52,687 - Costume reveal
17) Shion (Hololive) - 55,615 - 3D birthday
18) Gura (Hololive) - 42,455 - Unarchived karaoke
19) Watame (Hololive) - 42,288 - 3D announcement
20) Mio (Hololive) - 58,031 - 3D birthday live
21) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 48,128 - APEX custom
22) Hal (Indie) - 132,049 - VSaikyo S3 tournament
23) Kronii (Hololive) - 94,966 - HoloEN debut
24) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 51,404 - Poker Chase collab
25) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 108,077 - Niji Koshien exhibition match
26) Marine (Hololive) - 32,311 - Mario Kart
27) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 30,318 - Nijinoon
28) Furen (Nijisanji) - 98,761 - 3D debut
29) Kronii (Hololive) - 43,355 - Council meeting
30) Miko (Hololive) - 32,917 - Mario Party Superstars
31) Pekora (Hololive) - 59,204 - Clubhouse 51 totsumachi

Holo: 15
Nijisanji: 14
Indie: 2

>>29880596
Niji audience truly normalfags. Well it's fine to appeal to them but desu public audience is extremely fickle. Unless there are events they not gonna show up in daily streams.

>>29881205
What's the NijiEN streams today?

>>29881357
Damn... I can't believe hololive is dead but for real this time.

>>29881220
Oh has potential but it died down 8-9 streams down

>>29881433
doesnt matter Mysta or Vox will gold if nobody from EN is streaming

>>29881356
>Magni is leach
We know. Good thing he’s losing viewers FAST.

>>29881446
Don't be that sensitive, Holobronie. I just said that it'll be difficult for you to win August. If Holo fails to win August, it'll be the 3rd month in a row that Holo fails to win after Salome's debut.

>>29881417
SEAbro, grammar rep please.
I know you just woke up. Don't forget to wash your face, and brush your teeth.

>>29880306
>>29881339
Never mind I see the numbers and 45k is what it was and I cant believe people tuned into that.

>>29881485
>leach
eslchama

>>29881356
>Oboretai

>>29881220
>Declined from the 13th onward
NGMI

>>29881296
As long as Pekora exist, anything below 50k is in slip territory nowadays. Not to mention this is HoloSummer month. The only reason why Nijisanji won't get their ass beat too badly in August is because Riku decided to milk Koshien for all its worth.

>>29881485
>leach
I learn English by osmosis only, stop fucking it up.

>>29880594
Show us how you calculated it, anon. Here's my result.

>>29881231
>Dohna Dohna
Thanks for reminding me that I still need to finish it.

>>29881595
They also graduated a major Niji

>>29881583
Face the reality holokek.
You won't have a chance

>>29881595
Koshien is ending a week earlier though due to starting earlier in July so Holosummer+Pekora streams+other events means it's a stacked month for Hololive.

What does Hololive even have that's competitive this month? They already burned their big 3D show for the month on the first day.

>>29881723
>"Pekora streams" alone create a "stacked month"
Is that real

>>29881698
I didn't mention anything about Hololive but okay.

>>29881505
I get it anon. you got your feelings hurt because you were incorrect. I understand anon, being at fault is a hard thing to swallow. But think about this experience and you'll learn and grow as a human being. And I have to correct you again, I'm not from sea, I'm from one of the top 10 happiest countries in the world and now I'm going to bed.

>>29881220
8-2 14k
8-3 25k
8-4 31k
8-5 29k
8-6 32k
8-7 31k
8-8 24k
8-9 25k
8-10 28k
8-11 26k
8-12 24k
8-13 22k
8-14 19k
8-15 19k
Only goes down from here
Damn would have made for a good horse race if it was consistently high but seeing the numbers might be good for the bronze race

>>29881698
Im sitting comfortabley in my garden while you swim around the STD ridden bath house of nijisanji. We're juuuuuust fine over here.

HoloEN and cancelling streams. Name a more iconic duo

>>29881818
Selen and outfits?

>>29881723
>Koshien is ending a week earlier though due to starting earlier in July
No they aren't.
They will still end it around August 15 like last year.

>>29881874
Okay, you got me there

>>29881818
NijiEN and talking about being a bottom.

>>29881772
niji is so weak right now that pekora stream is a koshien killer

>>29881723
12-14th are the dates for the A/B matches and the Final.

>>29881647
You welcome anon.

>>29881882
nta but is there a link for the schedule?

>>29881754
Pekora playing some random mobile kuso game

>>29880175
Hololive as a group should ask youtube for a better cut…

>>29881754
Pekora shill streams or just pekora streaming in general

>>29881874
ANYCOLOR PLEASE GIVE SELEN AN OUTFIT THAT SHOWCASES HER FAT DRAGON MILKIES PLEASE THE PRANK HAS GONE ON FOR TOO LONG IT HURTS

>>29882002
Here. >>29160002

>>29882062
lol no
not even disney could renegotiate with youtube

>>29882068
She'll be lucky to get bronze with the big boy koshien matches, salome re8 and fuwa's morning radio.

>>29881791
Only holokeks love to paint a grim picture of nijisanji so fuck off.

>finanas orisong has more views than mumeis now
i musta missed the shitposting that happened when this occured

>>29882099
>7
thats july sched, I meant for august

>>29881754
The rest of sankisei has their anniversaries

>>29882099
Anon, that was for July.

>>29882138
There wasn't, nijifriends rely on anons here to the work for them

>>29882118
>salome
anon...

>>29882118
>big boy koshien matches,
3 secured days, the others still slippable
>salome re8
who?
>fuwa's morning radio
lol, 2-3 golds if lucky on really slow days

>>29882138
Do people even actively listen to Mumei's orisong? It seemed meh to me.

>>29882138
There wasn't, nijifriends rely on anons here to do the work for them

>>29881754
Anniversaries:
August 1: Sakura Miko (stream)
August 7: Shiranui Flare
August 8: Minato Aqua & Shirogane Noel
August 11: Houshou Marine
August 12: Yukihana Lamy
August 13: Momosuzu Nene
August 14: Shishiro Botan
August 16: Omaru Polka
August 17: Murasaki Shion
August 23: hololive English -Council-
Holosummer:
https://hololivesummer2022.hololivepro.com/#schedule

>>29882204
esl sea anon pls

>>29882132
I didn't mention Hololive though...

>>29882138
>finana
who?
>mumei
who?
damn midgets

>>29882310
Anniversary fatigue is going to kick in very quickly and Holo Summer seems like a flop waiting to happen. The waiting room doesn't even have 100 people right now.

>>29882361
Hololive lives rent free in nijis mind since they still cant get over the fact that a shrine maiden who said the n word and a retarded shark managed to dethrone them in the top spot

>>29882269
I listened to it once ages ago and its way out of music i enjoy even slightly.
>>29882277
I guess so, most of our nijifriends feel like people who just want (you)s and i guess if nobody else actually posted about when it was passed people really are only interested in shitposting here rather than finding actual things to shitpost without outside of here. However since ive now brought attention to it I cant wait for the eventual catalog thread now. Oops

>>29882381
>Waiting room
At least wait until like the last hour before calling your shots. People tried to do that with Sana's graduation and we ended up with several eunuchs.

>>29882381
I don't understand if Holo Summer is supposed to be a big deal or if anons here are just playing it up

>>29882138
It helps that she only has one "meaningful" song for her fans to loop, though. Her most recent cover grows slower than even Kiara or IRyS's, much less Mumei's

>>29882623
It should be since Holo are excited about it, too. Won't be as big as Koshien, though, more of a "been a long while since last time we got to dress up for summer" thing

>>29882497
People are still shitposting about >"Educate Yourself"
So her song kinda got pushed off to the wayside.

>>29877220
he should.

Did she smell blood in dead hours and decided to go for it? It's been a month and a half since her last morning talking stream
https://youtu.be/kyn90SGs-mE

>>29882704
Are there any events? Or is it literally just streams in swimsuits with a beach png background?

>>29882623
It's been a thing holos and their fans have been asking to bring back since 2019
It really depends on the execution though

>>29882623
It's a relatively big deal since it's basically new 3D model/outfit streams not to mention the return buff.

Why do people keep replying to this guy? He's been shitting out the same bait for hours now.

>>29882804
What would the numbers look like if Ayame participated in Holo Summer?

>>29882770
No idea? I don't think anyone can be sure what's going to happen yet

>>29882002
Last year koshien was held on August 12th(special event before tournament) and August 13th - 15th.
This year is going to held on August 12th - 14th.
So only one day earlier.

>>29882138
It's halfway to gura's orisong too, even though finana has around 1/10 the subs.

>>29882879
Okay. Sorry for all the questions. I have literally no idea what Holo Summer, I wasn't around for the first one

Nice of everyone to completely vacate US primetime for Kaela.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9r5r0Pmy8VU

Over 5k?

>>29882934
I bet 6-7k personally

>>29882909
14 million views....

>>29882909
Let's not forget that gura's music video took ages to be released too.

>>29882909

>>29882909
roru

>>29882909
>The MV and not the plain PNG upload
Between the 2 its 20million, just like you nijiniggers want right? combined views? fucking KYS.

Treasure Box already has 2.2 million views... what was the fastest orisong to 2 million?

>>29883121
The topic has another 6.8 million
Reflect has literally 10 times as many views

>>29883083
rumao even

>>29882909
>>29883042
>>29883179
finan tusnami came during their outfit revela when luxiem toursit where at its highest.
it was a well timed song but unfortunately cant be repeated again.

>finana keep Zing

>>29882909
Finana's Tsunami
>2.6M on Youtube
>478.1k on Spotify
Gura's Reflect
>5.2M on Youtube
>12.2M on Spotify (Holy fuck, I never checked her number on Spotify before)
Mumei's A New Start
>2.8M on Youtube
>1.6M on Spotify
Finana's orisong only looks good because she and her fans focus heavily on Youtube. When other platforms are taken into account, well...

what's with all the nijiEN break/return streams? seems like there are 1-2 every day lately.

>>29883297
Reflect has 26 million on YouTube anon
>>29883083

>>29883144
Reflect has the record up to 3M, then it's King for 4M to 8M, then Q for 9M to 10M.

Apex wtf. Where's smol 3d collab?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VaRRxlOQHA

>>29883361
burn out
unironically
fulgur is next return and probably we will have another break from someone else.

>>29883390
Check her twittrr

>>29883390
moved to next week
week day for holoen since it was only shilling and apex.

>>29883297
2.9M for Finana on YT, typo *
>>29883366
Yeah, that makes sense. I forgot about the PNG upload. Was wondering how Gura's Spotify number was that much bigger than her YT's while most Holos have lower views on Spotify compared to YT.

>>29883390
cute mooms and cute ame!