/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>how to be successful
>Don't think about numbers
Exhibit A: Gura, Kuzuha, Magni, FBK

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>29870052
Watamates are gonna fucking hunt you down if you talk about her like that anon

bots

>>29870129
>gura
>successful
vox absolutely mogs her when it comes to SCs.

>>29870052
Who is your oshi?

*FINAL GAIJIN TALLY OF THE DAY*
>12,262: Mumei (Hololive)
>12,108: Mysta (Nijisanji) *Z: 12,528*
>12,044: Ina (Hololive)
>11,513: Fauna (Hololive)
>10,625: Shu (Nijisanji) *Z: 11,262*
>10,256: Ike (Nijisanji)
>10,095: IRyS (Hololive)
>9,920: Magni (Holostars) *Z: 10,468*
>9,227: Vox (Nijisanji)
>5,845: Mori (Hololive)
>5,406: Maria (Nijisanji) *Z: 6,416*
>5,347: Enna (Nijisanji)
>5,044: Alban (Nijisanji)

>>29869927
nijibots

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>62,664: Pekora (Hololive)
>59,997: Maimoto (Nijisanji)
>35,749: Leos (Nijisanji)
>31,467: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>28,249: Fubuki (Hololive)
>26,480: Subaru (Hololive)
>20,441: Koyori (Hololive)
>19,120: Miko (Hololive)
>18,933: Patra (774 Inc.)
>17,176: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>16,287: Subaru (Hololive)
>16,149: Sumire (VSPO)
>15,083: Lamy (Hololive)
>13,588: Lamy (Hololive)
>13,139: Koyori (Hololive)
>12,690: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>12,350: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>12,204: Mumei (Hololive)
>12,059: Ina (Hololive)
>12,044: Akina (Nijisanji)
>11,478: Fauna (Hololive)
>11,110: Shu (Nijisanji)
>10,926: Watame (Hololive)
>10,468: Magni (Holostars)
>10,380: Akina (Nijisanji)
>10,252: Ike (Nijisanji)
>10,057: IRyS (Hololive)

Reminder that we agreed to not posts more lewds or porn for the rest of the day.

Who will be the 5th Holo to get 2M

>>29870052
If you don't, you won't mind telling us who your oshi is right

>>29870165
>proud of being a virtual fucktoy to zhang fujos
the absolute state

Wait what? When did Ichikara become Anycolor?

>>29870201
PEKO WIN

>GAIJIN GOLD SO FAR FOR AUGUST
1. Mumei (Hololive) - 14,137 (Getting Over It w/Fauna)
2. Mumei (Hololive) - 12,262 (Minecraft)

>GOLD PER COMPANY
Holopro - 2
Nijisanji – 0
Others - 0

>GOLD PER STREAMER
2x: Mumei

>SILVER PER COMPANY
Holopro - 0
Nijsanji - 2
Others - 0

>SILVER PER STREAMER
1x: Shu, Mysta

>BRONZE PER COMPANY
Holopro - 2
Nijsanji - 0
Others – 0

>BRONZE PER STREAMER
1x: Axel, Ina

>>29870229
like, shortly before nijiEN debuted?

>>29870199
>we
kys

>>29870201
>losing gold to gacha
guess niji had shit luck and bad rolls kek

>>29870165
SC numbers are relevant somehow?

>>29870199

>>29870052
You're playing with fire anon...

>>29870211
if the rust arc continues, probably fubuki

>>29870247
The month of Mumei

>total tempus box is just about 10k viewers they share with each other
The real test is if they overap one another like Niji

HoloEN wouldn't be able to compete against NijiEN without Gura

>>29870105
/news/ roundup for 02-08-2022
>>29860064
Monthly /news/ roundup for July 2022
>>29772027
Recent clip numbers
>>29845692
>>29845728
>>29846120
>>29846153

>Chose to ignore his words instead of heeding to them

>>29870199
Based non-coomer

>>29870273
Holofags try to downplay SCs because their top earners only make around half as much as Vox.

Why is vspo a thing? I used to watch people playing fps without facecam. Is it really necessary to use a model to play fps? Just hide your face mate.

>>29870199
dozo

>>29870317
She cooka da Nijis

Alright, bitches. Three Tempus streams for today

Regis: 60sec!
Magni: Cooking Simulator
Axel: Hitman

who will be overlaping them today? Will any Niji be streaming at the same time? Predicts?

>>29870211
Unironically Kobo judging by her sub growth

>>29870319
What was the NijiEN box like 2 weeks after the Lazulight debut?

Trade Matsuri + Bae + Ollie for Lize, please!

Median of Peak CCV
>>29729405 :: Top 50
>>29732525 :: 1k plus
>>29734193 :: complete
>>29735091 :: kaigai

True average of CCV
>>29738677 :: Top 50
>>29738842 :: complete
>>29739223 :: kaigai

Pic related, true average, kaigai

>>29870345
And also because they lost Coco and Rushia. Holofags used to be so proud of their SCs and loved counting money before

>>29870248
So they restructured the company for IPO or something?

>>29870389
2k-4k
theyre not so hot anymore and will recline like our iluna

>>29870137
If only the EN Kiara was this hot
PS thanks, the uncensored vrs is nice

So Z peaks still being counted or not? Or is it only excluded when it's contending podium?

>>29870389
Regis 3k
Magni 7k
Axel 4k

>>29870211
Kobo

>>29870429
peak before Z
dont know about cripple though

>>29870345
If Gura did dick-sucking ASMR on request she’d get more from SCs, but it would still be an irrelevant amount of money for her.

>>29870403
So when is Ame apologizing?

>>29870423
> our Iluna
He had the courage to declare himself a Nijifag. You have my respect for that

>>29870410
I know this is bait but I would love to have an anon posting monthly or weekly SC rankings here.

>>29870199
You can't fool me "Pekora isn't sexy" gay anon. Here you go.

alright, let's get some non-yuri Pekos in this thread, Marine didn't even stream today.

>>29870211
Kobo
She supposedly has an another interview in the normie sphere

Remember when Salome used to gain ccv every following RE7 stream?

>>29870389
>Regis: 60sec!
Fauna got 10k with that shit so it's not debuff material. I'll be nice and say 4-5k unless he really fucked himself that hard opening his career with Zelda

>>29870211
Sakura Miko

All these crossthread posts. Watamates are scary.

>>29870211
the fuck 5th one already for 2 Million?
Niji livers are having trouble even with 1 Million why do japs not subscribe

>>29870490
It doesn't work like this. Women like rape fantasies, men like maid fantasies.

>>29870512
SC are monthly its posted at the end of the month

>>29870325
Imagine NijiEN if you removed Luxiem.

>>29870553
He's not breaking 4k

>>29870549
>from 127k to 27k
literally lost 100k lmao

>>29870105
>>29870137
Uhhhh Summer Camp (EN) is over buddy. Post Normal Kiara for Ooku Rerun

>>29870629
Will you suck our dicks like the other anon?

>>29870604
I see. I've only seen niji side's SC few threads ago.

>>29870512
they do get posted monthly

>>29870287
friend only gain 10k in the past week

>>29870549
No

>>29870570
Tourists dont subscribe they just follow you on twitter since theyre only interested in events

>>29870549
This is just so sad.

>>29870674
Wait, are these threads just a honeypot to lure other men into sucking our dicks?

>>29870674
No, but I won't delete my comment. Because he isn't hitting 4k. I've been watching the Tempus numbers, Altare got like 3.5k playing the horror train game. He'll get 3.2k today with a 300 ccv fluctuation unless there's no overlap, then he may get 3.8k

>>29870578
>It doesn't work like this. Women like rape fantasies, men like maid fantasies.
Idk about that. I don't really give a shit about maid fantasies unless I'm raping the maid.
If Gura did a rape roleplay where she either forced you down and fucked you or where you tricked her into having sex with you, either of those would make bank.

Is it true that Vox Akuma makes more money in one month than the meme shark does in a whole year?

>>29870684
go back around july 31/Aug 1 both holo and niji were posted there was even a thread for it

>>29870512
Do it yourself if you really need it. Most people stopped caring once they saw merch numbers and gift memberships being added in made it more irrelevant when you have Watamates and Nousagi.

>>29870742

>>29870742
No, that's global

>>29870719
I think events and gaming clips are the most healthy way of enjoying vtuber content in this streaming phase after Kizuna Ai era because man vtuber gameplay is just dogshit

Legitimately what are good shorts that vtubers can put out? All shorts I've seen are cringe af including Marine's and Watame's so I don't know how they can put out an interesting short that garner 10M views.

>>29870742
this started when the tempura boys debuted
coincidence? I don't think so

>>29870777
Yeah, Gura's fans don't member, like, or superchat. They literally just watch streams

>>29870273
Only when it's appropriate for nijiniggers

>>29870345
Somebody post the Pekora merch stats again so the nijis learn their place

>>29870818
Good stream moments condensed into shorts because>>29870817

>>29870852
Child

>>29870325
Close but its
>NijiEN is competitive with HoloEn without Gura in the picture
As long as Gura exists, NijiEN can’t win. Well unless they get their own Gura after 20 new waves.

>>29870790
>watame has 10k ccv
>no greynames in sight
>watamates casually dropping 300-500 gift subs
>its always a different person that does it
fucking cult, what the hell do these people even do that they can just drop those like its nothing

>>29870770
Why does it have to be about Gura raping you instead of vice versa. Anyway, its retarded to compare SC, Vox is basically a digital prostitute. I respect his hustle, men fleecing women simps en masse is so rare he might be one of the few. I wonder if he gets pent up and actually tries dating, only to be reminded he's no sex god, just some tard behind a bassboosted microphone with a genshin ripoff model.

>>29870770
she would get banned instantly

>>29870790
So it would be better to count their total earnings by merch too? But that is inifinitely harder to do than simply listing SCs.

>>29870325
>HoloEN wouldn't be able to compete against NijiEN without Gura
NijiEN literally fucking lost two days in a row without Gura

>>29870891
They already have one. Maria has a completely uncontested timeslot and is gaining traction with the CN fanbase

>>29870818
just put gura in it and your good since the algo will take care of you

>>29870872
You will train viewers to not watch your streams and just wait for the shorts to come out few days later.

>>29870325
Gura barely streamed last month and fucking Mumei gatekept you fags. Go back to coping about SC.

>>29870907
If you did your reps he actually looks like a more white elliot Rodgers lol

>>29870005
These retards will most certainly start the Koshien arc one week earlier in 2023 and get fucked by Pekora alone. It's gonna be the year of the rabbit so I can only wish them luck.

>>29870937
> Losing to a Homo and having problems even with buff content btw

>>29870992
his audition vid was funny though

>>29870919
Merch mogs SC earnings. SCs are breadcrumbs. Even Yagoo said it.

>>29870273
They used to be when people were calling cope on the merch deal, then we saw how much even mod tier holomem could get with merch (that also had lower cover cuts and didn't have to pay the jew tax to YouTube) and yea. It doesn't help that some tribalfags latched onto SC as some holy grail when it's just one metric of how willing your fanbase is to throw money at you in the WORST way possible since it gets cut up so much worse than merch does.

>>29870937
>. Maria has a completely uncontested timeslot
What
She's on Luca's timeslot. Are you people this unaware

>>29870903
I heard Tom Cruise dropped Scientology for Watamage

>>29871021
Getting over it isn't buff content. She's consistently hitting 4k right now, once she starts inclining she'll sit at 8-10k

>>29870919
It was more that people saw Pekora get over a million USD from 1 merch run and just stopped giving a shit about SCs. After that Cover got wise to how people were scraping merch numbers from their site. Supposedly it's still possible, but nobody has shared how since it'll get fixed if it got out.

It's August, and so it's once again time to check up on how the NijiEN girls are doing in terms of SCs!

Outliers
> Pomu, thanks to her MGS streams and her Birthday.
> Obsydia, thanks to their anniversary.
Special mention to Petra, who finally inclined her mean after 6 months of continuous recline. Whether she can keep these numbers, we will see next month.

Inclining
> Rosemi, seems to be slowly crawling back up from her slump, and has been inclining for the past 2 months after her disastrous May numbers.

Reclining
> Enna, hit her lowest mean SC since November.
> Finana, likely thanks to her multitude of yabs, has reclined to the lowest point in her career in both mean and total SCs.
> Surprisingly, Elira also hit her lowest mean AND total SCs since November, and has been on a recline for the past two months.

Neutral
> Everyone else.
Special mentions -
> Reimu seems to have somewhat recovered her numbers after her yab last month. Next month will tell the full story.
> Millie, who also broke her 6 month reclining streak this month.

Source is Playboard.

>>29871061
>Trusting corpos

Magni is streaming right now
Get In!!!!!
https://youtu.be/s2Htfeg2CyU

>>29870512
The daily SC Anon said he got fucked up IRL and had to go into the hospital so he stopped doing daily SCs. We do get monthly totals thrown up once a month though.

>>29871129
>Trusting talents/livers

>>29871077
Male != female, they have completely different audiences. And since the Nijibox supposedly doesn't exist, that means no one watching Luca would watch Maria, right?

>>29871151
I see no difference between them

>>29871129
Anon we saw the math ourselves. Even ignoring the Pekora example Marine made 600k just off the limited variant of her 3D live merch - this is without including the non-limited amounts. And we're supposed to be imperessed by a mere 100k in superchats?

>>29871108
>Getting over it isn't buff conten
Absolutely fucking delusional. It is for a fucking first timer retard and even they got tired of her being fucking ass at the game until she started making progress. Her peak was a fucking Z, too.

>>29870903
I don't know, but some take pride in it and list the number of sheep sheared in their Twitter names. A few of them are near 1000 now.

>>29870570
NO SUBSCRIBE!
ONLY TWITTER FOLLOW AND LIKE!

>>29871129
Okay..can you give me any reason why yagoo would downplay SCs?
>yeah lol your SCs don't even matter who the fuck cares
Does that sound like a quote from a man who's looking to earn profits from SCs?

>merch
Don't forget Suityan and Ramy. Those two blue monsters.

>>29870329
"Z"ultan I kneel!

>>29870410
And Nijiniggers, like you, insisted that SC was not an important metric back then. Funny how things turned out huh

>>29871061
>>29870790
SC's are important to NijiEN thought thats why they are reliant on it since you wont have that much in merch unless you are luxiem.

>>29871213
>a fucking Z
I hate nijiZanji so much. When is youtube fixing this retarded bug?

>>29871108
> 10k
> Female
> On Manjisanji
Yeah, sure. Just like Gura in holo, there won't be another Salome in Niji

>>29870961
It's kinda what's happened with Gura. Clipped so hard, has lots of subs, but many don't watch streams live.

>>29871292
It's a feature

>>29871213
Not buff content. This graph just shows that people are tuning into her now. The 10hr stream did wonders for her visibility

>>29871281
It’s gonna be funny when they start giving only Ren extra merch for being the top performer in iLuna

>>29870903
In theory watame has a 10k floor for her number of members

>>29871108
Copying mumei's game that got a gold on the first day and still got magged lmao

>>29871281
This is....probs true, SCs likely do make up a much bigger % of their total earnings.

>>29871308
She gets plenty of people watching her live going by vod views a couple hours after the streams is over. The viewers are just not counted.

>>29871338
>Not buff content
Again, you're fucking delusional Everyone tunes into GOI to see the player rage.

>>29871129
Pft imagine firing your highest SC earner... oh wait

>>29870540
I'm most likely the one spamming her fanarts the most but Nikke+ catching up on Rust VODs is taking me too much of my time. You guys can do it yourself tonight.

>>29871338
Dude, you have to stop Gaslighting yourself. You really need to touch the grass a little

>>29870410
>>29870345
once Chloe solves her ghost problem, you guys won't be so sure of yourselves.

You people seem interesting from last thread, at least.
Is there an appropriate place to go to learn your unique dialect of numberfag wordspeak? Do you have a dictionary? Do you agree on what these words mean, even, like what a "Z" is or what specifically "doing a Susan" entails?

>>29870414
it's just a name change as far as I'm aware, the rrat being that it'd be easier for foreigners to memorize because one of the theories for why nijisanji failed to break into the western market as well is because the name is aggressively foreign

Is watame the strongest of gen4?

>>29870199
No gutter slut human toilet Pekora for you then.

>>29870742

>EN hours come
>suddenly more posts about nijiEN, and more details too
Just my observation. There are legit human scums, sorry I mean nijiEN fans compared to nijiJP fans in /vt/ here huh.

>>29871426
No, that's Towa...sadly.

>>29871415
You lurk until you figure it out and then smugly ask the next retard who asks to do the same

>>29871298
Psst. Nobody tell him that NijiEN struggles to have a 10k at all, let alone a female.
How many months have Vox and Mysta dipped below that average?

>>29871415
The answer, my friend, is
>lurk moar

>>29871468
Why would NijiCN fans show up in EN hours?

>>29871415
You get the hang of it the more you lurk and get the context of certain number specific lingos

>Regis getting overlapped by Mumei, Kronii, and Bae
>Playing 60 seconds
This fucker isn't even gonna hit 3k

>>29871492
>>29871509
>>29871536
That's fair. Never hurts to ask once, but I half expected as such.

>>29870325
Lmao, you faggots actually foam at the mouth because of Gura's existence cockblocking you.

>>29870777
no

>>29871520
Trannies after all are the loudest bunch when it comes to bitching about things

>>29871480

>>29871554
Regis likes risky bets. Respect+

>>29871415
Anon, the only way is to delve into the abyss and pray your mind is strong enough to last the full ordeal. Only then will the words of the gods and old ones be revealed to you and you will finally understand.

>>29871353
Wouldnt doubt it
>>29871382
Yeah thats why they have to stream as much since SC's are the only stable income they had which is pretty sad since vtubing and streaming in general is supposed to be a stepping stone not a career

>>29871554
Bae is overlapping Mumei and Kronii again? I love you Bae but you gotta work smart, not hard sometimes.

>>29871415
Just learn to use Vrabi and post funny looking graphs and you will fit right in.

>>29871416
If the rrat is true they should name their en branch to RainbowPot or something.

>>29871116
> The female chink viewers are only watching for the male to appear.
> The holo watchers are filtered from giving money due to the collabs
CCV is increasing due to Z and raids while memberships and SC continues to decline.
Can you add the latest wave? Would like to compare how the latest additions fare.

>>29871426
Its tokyo tower

Just out of curiosity... Who broke /#/ the most so far? Tempus or Luxiem? Because before the debut, both were massacred by the anons /here/ on their predictions

>>29870777
Gura statue in holofes sold more than Vox life earnings anon...
When is riku going to compete seriously

>>29871554
unless you bet your balls it doesn't count

>>29871617
That's a guy

>>29871426
Maybe. Her ceiling might not be as high as Towa, but she's more consistent and does better against competition. Kanata is dead.

>>29871647
hey, stop calling me out

>>29871691
definitely Luxiem because china

>>29871702
When he listens to Ibrahim and lets Salome collab with the rest of Nijisanji

>>29871691
>an anon that admitted to botting Millie
>ALL OUT WAR

>>29871691
Tempus only broke Nijiniggers who used them as a bat to hit hololive with before they debuted.

>>29871415
I'll spoonfeed you for once, but lurking is always a better way to learn.
Susan = CEO of Youtube and killer of numbers/ally of numbers depending on what's happening with numbers that particular day. Most of the time she's the enemy.
Z = recent bug that appears in a lot of chuuba graphs, where there's a HUGE spike, followed by a huge dip, and then a return to normalcy.

>>29871643
Bae is in a collab with Kronii. However its a shill stream, that sponsors asked to be multiPOV for some schizo reason.

>>29870105
who drew this?

>>29871281
>>29871382
>>29871633
Their company makes millions a year in profits while guilt-tripping their viewers to donate on streams?
How is this legal?

>>29870817
They are women after all, and average attention span decreasing is not helping. Women were never popular in twitch even with the camera facing their fake boobs.
Pekora, Subaru, Miko, changed this and they deserve all my respect

*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

Here it goes
>12,262: Mumei (Hololive)
>12,108: Mysta (Nijisanji) *12,528 Z peak*
>12,044: Ina (Hololive)
>11,513: Fauna (Hololive)
>11,262: Shu (Nijisanji)
>10,468: Magni (Hololive)
>10,256: Ike (Nijisanji)
>10,095: IRyS (Hololive)
>9,227: Vox (Nijisanji)
>6,416: Maria (Nijisanji)
>5,845: Mori (Hololive)
>5,347: Enna (Nijisanji)
>5,044: Alban (Nijisanji)

>>29871555
The answer was unavoidable considering the short half life of everything in this place.
Think about it: this thread, a completely unique thread just created less than half hours ago, has nothing in common with the prev thread that died on page 11 except the title of the first post.
Everything else is stored in the collective minds of whoever happens to be lurking or posting on it, and those 100+ people per thread do not even know each other or communicate outside of it.

What you see looks like something palpable and real but it’s just an optical illusion, an emergent phenomenon appearing from the collective retardation of a bunch of number autists

>>29871643
It's a split POV shill stream collab

>>29871480
>>29871688
Towa does well lately because she moved her shit into a slot with low competition. A boon of Rushia being dead I guess.

>>29871691
Tempura due to Iluna
Im actually one of the maybe few holofag that are seething on why Iluna flopped so bad since i wanted to shitpost and homoen

>>29871643
Bae and Kronii are going to do sponsor streams though.

>>29871814
Me

>>29871799
>sponsors asked to be multiPOV for some schizo reason.
MultiPOV will pretty much always give a higher amount of total views than a solo POV, which is what the sponsors care about.

>>29870273
Holobronies before:
>Coco, Rushia and Lamy are top SC earners, get fucked nijinigs!
Holobronies now:
>SC numbers are relevant somehow?

>>29871643
Bae is collabing with Kronii

>>29871633
Niji doesn’t really look like a place where you’d go if you have any big ambitions. There’s quite a few in JP where their talents are squandered cause they aren’t popular enough to get management support.

>>29870325
Ren's the only thing preventing the utter embarrassment of losing to HoloStars for this new wave.

>>29871828
>EN GOLD SO FAR FOR AUGUST
1. Mumei (Hololive) - 14,137 (Getting Over It w/Fauna)
2. Mumei (Hololive) - 12,262 (Minecraft)

>GOLD PER COMPANY
Hololive - 2
Nijisanji - 0
Others - 0

>GOLD PER STREAMER
2x: Mumei

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
Mumei: 10
Shu: 3
Mysta: 3
Axel: 1
Ina: 1

>>29871520
Apparently there are western fans for nijiEN girls. They have fat fetish or something I have no idea.

>>29871691
Luxiem I think, it was the first good gen (numberwise) Nijiniggers got and THEY, JUST. DIDN'T. STOP. taunting everyone about it. Threads were unusable for a long while.

>>29869753
Not that you're exactly wrong since the range of which you said is still somewhat there, but this is classic niji behavior, one that leaves out other important details.
https://vrabi.net/video/ELkzQzcyGAI
First off, Maria's peak for Getting Over It was NOT 6.4k, she Z'd to it. Her actual peak prior to that was 5.5k. That's a 900 ccv difference.
https://vrabi.net/video/YkPg5xYnMLw
Maria's peak for Valorant was NOT 3.7k. That was a Z. Her actual peak was 3.3k, a 400 ccv difference.
https://vrabi.net/video/b-9ZeOh3uCo
Lastly, her Apex collab was NOT 6.6k because, yet again, that was a Z peak. Her highest peak was 5.4k, a 1.2k ccv difference.

Aside from the 3k one, those are GIGANTIC differences in CCV and trying to mislead people into thinking she's more successful than she actually is is typical of Niji posters here.

>>29871415
You just need to know one thing. The queen of this thread is Pekora and /#/ is the true Nousagis' general, also we can boast about having two dedicated threads for us alone.

>>29871874
We know context is hard for Nijifags, but your posts are stale and boring at this point.

>>29871874
Why do nijibronies love projecting so much?

>>29870429
Only when it effects gold (or silver and bronze if people want to bother with it). Trying to sort out every stream in the tally every day by excluding the Zs and reranking them is more work than anyone will ever do.

uh
whats happening

>>29871897

>>29871520
I guess Nijisanji managed tot get some troons to actually care enough to argue abut them, dunno if it translates to any views through.

>>29871668
I'll probably only do this for one more month, since mixed waves now means that a lot of parity last been lost. I did this for a recording of trends anyway, and hololyzer didn't have historical data.
If anyone wants to make a new list you can use hololyzer to compare since it has more accurate SC numbers.

>>29871825
They dont make millions due to their livers they make it through sponsorships and merch. sc are irrelevant in company earnings and thats why they only reward those livers that can bring in numbers with costumes, merch and sponsorships

>>29871353
Aia and her SJW instincts would freak out. Honestly, she'll probably be NijiEN's first graduate when she sees what ACCELERATE truly means

>>29871830
Too much ganjas my friend

>>29871445
I wonder if there are women in real life who walk around with used condoms tied to them and shit. It's such a common trope in hentai manga/doujinshi.

>>29871873
But how does a single player multi POV collab even work. One of them plays the game and the other just...streams them streaming it?

>>29871957
Hatsune Miku and the leek appeared on the telly.

>>29871691
Fucking Salami, even regulars were joining the retards and screaming BOTS for two whole weeks.

>>29871884
Nijisanji is survival of the fittest. If you don't work hard and numberfag, you're not getting merch or outfits before others with better numbers. Hololive is a hugbox. You'll always get support, but you'll never be pressured to actually improve your content or viewership and everyone will tell you to just "be yourself"
Up to you to decide which you prefer

>>29871897

>youtube bug
Do fleshtubers get Z?

>>29871874
Nijiniggers before:
>SC numbers are relevant somehow
Nijiniggers now:
>Mysta and Vox are top SC earners, get fucked holokeks!

What happened to Salome, man?

>>29871957
>Miku is a genuine Vtuber now
>Pekora is a carbon copy of Miku but streaming-oriented instead of being music-oriented
YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP, PEKORA IS THE NEW MIKU!

>>29871077
Different audiences.

>>29871957
nature is healing

>>29872020
to this day no one has given a convincing explanation for how she got 90k every stream for 2 weeks so until that's settled I still believe she's botted for the IPO

>>29871999
They both play separate runs and stream their pov. So i expect Bae to get btfo unless Kronii's stream is scuffed to hell.

>>29871884
some id to
actually found layla fun and interesting shame she isnt getting any support from the company any time soon

>Luxiem getting high SCs
I do agree that we should count SCs again on the basis of you nijifags are all retarded, HoloX debuted on the same month as you yet Vox can't event beat a maid who doesn't stream 6 times a week, coyote and ninja even beats 4/5 of Luxiem, fuck off from the thread already

>>29872032
I would also like to know this

If merchs are so lucrative why niji only shit out identical merch for all their livers?

>>29871894
it was worth it for the reimu drama and kobo threads

>>29871942
Update your data.
Don't be like nijibronies who are stuck in the past.

>>29871691
11$ incident got like 50% of the thread banned.

>>29872114
Why bother doing anything unique when the idiot fans will eat it up anyway

>>29872114
The profit margin should be insane with how little effort it takes to make it

Where the fuck is Cover's fiscal year data already

>>29871415
Why are irystofags so naturally inclined to numbers with their bottom tier holo

>>29872169
>11$ incident
?

>>29871897

almost all of the yonkisei have their niche audience which creates a loyal fanbase but on the other hand also results in lower ceilings than the other holos
watame has a huge base of watamates but her interactions in the box are lower due to her stream times/type which causes her events to have lower ceilings by both being a little out of mainstream appeal as well as by capping her collab partners.
Kanata's appeal had a lot of overlap with coco/suisei but after both of those relationships collapsed she's been more like watame except with a higher floor.
Luna has her nice midnight slot and has been collabing a bit, she's had a nice incline arc fairly recently so I expect her ceiling to improve as she collabs more and more.
Towa has lower floor than watame and kanata, but higher ceiling because she's more integrated into the box than the rest of yonkisei. twap has relationships with just about all the top holos as well as had the biggest incline from riding the holox train (that asobitaisen series with holox really boosted her as did startend apex arc) and her role as collab organizer (mario kart) and big collaber in events (lots of guests) means even if her day-to-day is less consistent and more subject to other holos, her special events are much stronger as a result.

>>29872161
I don't like posting real life photos. It feels like I'm taking a personal stab at someone instead of shitting on nijikeks

>>29871116
Is it over for Finana?

>>29872089
then you are a retard just like nijitards
just look at koshien

>>29872114
> cheaper, more profits as they will obviously sell at an expensive price

>>29872199
KEK

>>29872198
Someone paid 11$ to bot i think Millies stream to see how it looks.

>>29872089
I was not there (only came back to watch vtubers after holocure), but I do kmow that major holos were taking a breakduring the debut of Salome. Iirc including Pekora. Everyone were starve for contents hence the numbers.

>>29871975
If SC and memberships are irrelevant, then why is their biggest source of income comes from those streams?

>>29872192
My college degree is in numbers

>>29872198
And Anon spent 11$ buying bots to use on a Niji stream to see how it would look on a graph, and if it would even work.

>>29872032
some anon said that some fleshtubers were complaining about it but most of them dont care since they use yt exclusive data which doent showw the z

>>29872230
That brony is a nijikek though

>>29871691
That would be the "Millie Erection" event. Site staff chemo'd the thread, I assume some 60 people, including 2/3 of the most active regulars, got a 3 days vacation to reflect on their behaviours.

It was also a huge collective IQ test, whoever didn't find their way back in 30 seconds were not worthy of this thread.

>>29872279
For the livers the biggest source of income is SC and streams, for the company it's the sponsorships and merch. These two entities are different people.

>>29872114
cheaper = more profits
i think the high numbers ones get exclusive merch and deals like vox nendroid

>>29872227
I only respect Towa out of the yonkoseis. She get out of a major yab (lied about it to which made it infinitely worse) ok. Others are just collecting cult members for mass suicide ritual during graudation.

>>29872092
But they're not separate streams. It's a collab.

Bro... Uproar will get new costumes already? But... They debuted this year, it hasn't even been 6 months since the debuts. Wtf

>>29870553
>unless he really fucked himself that hard opening his career with Zelda
I'm still annoyed that he started his Holostar career with Twilight Princess. A talking stream would have been better than that debuff shit.

>>29872273
That might hold water if she was a 30k average streamer, but Salome was literally getting 90-100k for every single stream of resident evil seven, a two year old game, for two solid weeks. That is "Big event" numbers, not regular stream numbers, and cannot be explained by "bored holofags shopping around for something to watch", because if that were true we would've seen random holos get 90k for random streams ever so often

>>29872428
>collecting cult members for mass suicide ritual during graduation
Isn't that the point?

>>29871884
>There’s quite a few in JP where their talents are squandered cause they aren’t popular enough to get management support.
Bora Nun..... ;-(

From a branch getting 2 digits on the regular, she was making to the tally and averagng 5k. What a waste of talent! Good thing she found her way out

Why are cover and nijisanji blatantly botting shill streams
>pekora 62k
>Salome “big” Vod on shill stream

>>29872279
for livers retard
for the company thats irrelevant

>>29872435
unlike nijisanji, cover actually works on new outfits in a timely manner

>>29872032
if there's any site that has fleshtuber graphs we can check.
or if some anon can tell me how to get the public CCV number from an ongoing stream (every value I've seen so far only gives the current VOD numbers).

>>29871691
Luxiem's unexpected success + people picking them up as the primary shitposting bait (until Salome...and the back to them after Salome died) cause the most issues. Tempus, while more successful than predicted and more so than Holostars ever were, still isn't anything crazy. Also people like them because they're technically part of Holopro and don't gaybait or pander to Chinese like Luxiem.

>>29872435
Summer outfits mate, time sensitive outfits gets distributed based on time of the year, not on time since debut. See also: HoloX new years outfit

>>29872279
anon if your vtuber companies biggest income is sc and memberships then your company is run by a retard

the tide is rising

>>29872518
IRyS...
God I hope the rework is gonna be good.

>>29871957
Lazy fuck.

>>29872232
Well Rosemi and Reimu were able to overcome their yabs, so there SHOULD be hope, but from the community stirrings, it might just be.
She'll need to do a LOT of work to bring back those she lost.

>>29872578
Irys is getting reworked like Nene so her situation is different

>>29872526
>or if some anon can tell me how to get the public CCV number from an ongoing stream
Youtube API
https://developers.google.com/youtube/v3/docs/videos/list

>>29872526
>if there's any site that has fleshtuber graphs we can check.
only one for fleshtubers i know is yt internal one

>>29870553
Two things about this:
One, he absolutely fucked himself playing TP during his debut week. He didn't show off any of his skills that people already know about
Two, he still has a lot of potential to incline. Between the collabs and the potential karaoke streams, there's room for his viewership to grow, especially if he's good at singing and can draw in big crowds
Basically I'd say he's middle of the pack. The only Tempus member who's really in danger is Axel. He isn't playing his buff games (shooters) and he hasn't learned to talk with chat. Unless he's a fucking A+ singer and revolves his content around music, he's in trouble

Omocat holoID merch coming to Crunchyroll expo (as well as stock for the Myth and Council stuff too I assume)
https://twitter.com/_omocat/status/1554542554380611584

Pekora is pretty sexy

>>29872486
Salmonella's number on that specific VOD can be explained because she was also on the Google play store YouTube channel, and since she got several problems on her stream, they chose to migrate to that channel instead. If they did so like 3/4 times during the same stream this totally proves how her numbers are inflated like hell.

>>29872435
End of the Year, Tempus New-Year outfits... If they don't announce summer outfits this month too tho

>>29872444
She is not a random streamer though. She is the desu wa streamer.

>>29872612
Can of worms, I'm using a simple curl thingey to get VOD numbers, and technically this information is publicly displayed on the webpage and should be extractable without the API.
I just haven't found the right variable yet.

>>29872486
>sub 100k vods
jesas

>>29872392
They just blanket banned anyone in the thread that even acknowledged that it was a thing that was occurring. Even people saying "that's bad don't do that" got banned. Thread exterminatus.

>>29872573
Here of your comparison delights
https://socialblade.com/youtube/compare/UCgIfLpQvelloDi8I0Ycbwpg/UCjLEmnpCNeisMxy134KPwWw

Estimated time of impact: the week of 9/11

>>29872578
I mean she could have had her outfit back in January but she chose a rework over a new years outfit so that doesn't really apply.

>>29872465
For yonkisei? Probably.

>>29871983
While i don't to give burger Nguyentranny view, but how's she doing?

>>29872641
Summer outfits idk, but new-year costumes? 100% that this will happen. I want to see the meltdown of NijiEN fans wanting new customs seeing this

>>29872573
Oh no....

>>29871691
probably better to ask after Tempus has been around as long as Luxiem so I'm gonna go with $11s

>>29872696
USA
USA
USA

>>29872444
>a two year old game
five

>>29872696
she might supposedly get normie and national airtime again so that might accelerate even faster

>>29872407
>>29872492
>>29872559
It's 20% for the company, which is not an irrelevant number.
Are you willing to take 20% pay cut just to get an internet point?

>>29872573
holy fuck that will be the day of unending thread deletions

>>29872696
>9/11
oh shit

>>29872628
Anykara please approach Omocat for merchandise come on man I want good Selen merch...

>>29872232
I find it endlessly funny that she is doing more personal shit than any other nijiEN girl but she is so fucking retarded about the ways she is doing it that she actually manages to debuff herself

>>29872533
From what I gather, Luxiem caused a firestorm by set a wild standard for their company as a whole, at least in the EN side of things, whereas Tempus is just causing surprise by falling in a middle ground of the pre-debut expectations, which were "Luxiem for Hololive, overshadow the girls entirely" on one end, and "StarsJP but for EN, completely ignored and kept around because the CEO wants friends" on the other.
Being decidedly "fine" isn't gonna be as wild as setting a company high watermark. The only ones who are upset are the ones who are failing to hit that "fine" number in terms of competition, aka, non-Luxiem NijiENs who would likely kill to have StarsEN-level standard numbers.

>>29872720
2k-1k already. Sucks at gaming content and annoying af on collabs... 3views soon

>>29872578
It isn't number related, but whatever she gets will be what she wants, so that'll be enough to make me happy, if she is.

>>29872620
Aussie is always the runt. Even Myth's runt is an aussie.

>>29872768

>>29872593
Reimu's "yab" wasn't ever from the people who actually watch and/or donate to her, such as they are. It probably made her fans rally around her more than anything. Not even sure what Rosemi did or if anyone was even ever mad at her besides one dude spazzing out in the catalogue for like 2 months.

>>29871894
It's actually hilarious how much nijifags are their own worst enemies, nobody would be shitting on luxiem or even Salome this much if they wouldn't keep trying to provoke holofags with them

>>29872637

Will EN3 have a proper cunny to give gura some competition?

>>29872334
yeah but it still feels like crossing a line

>>29872827
I'm an idort dude I spent over $300 on omocat Council merch

>>29872778
>"Luxiem for Hololive, overshadow the girls entirely"
Literally no-one had that pre-debut expectation

>>29872198
>>29872270
>>29872298
In addition to this, that guy only bought about 1k or so bots, and it was exhibiting the same symptoms typically seen on Luxiem's graphs.
But then someone else (probably the sisters) bought it again and boosted her to a 13k peak, and blamed it on this thread.

>>29872573
Jeez nice way to waste a great talent niji

>>29872746

>>29872696
Kobo's slowed down a little, this might be somewhat overly optimistic.

>>29872628
Hololive will grow larger

>>29870201

>>29872842
/k/unny if the rrats are true

>>29872768
why are nijibeggars like this?

>>29872689
they just banned everyone who posted in the thread, period.

>>29872881
No one sane, but shitposters whose day job is "try and make global upset" sure as hell had some wacky ideas pre-debut.

>>29872771
People were saying she was doing ERP with big donors or something?

>>29872869
> enabling chinks
That's even worse

>>29872931
That isn't an expectation, it's a shitpost.

>>29872746
But Kobo can speak chink muttbros, she is honorary china

>>29872759
>It's 20% for the company, which is not an irrelevant number.
compared to merch and sponsorship payments that the company gets? thats irrelevant especially when you have livers in the 3view range and also take into account that sc's fluctuate. Now compared that to lets say the koshien streams that are sponsored thats a huge difference in cash inflow into the company anon

>>29872957
Fair enough, I guess

>>29872768
Good merch on Nijisanji... Yeah, keep dreaming. Next year has the same Merchs of this year, dw

>>29872963
yeah you'd like people to believe that wouldn't you zhang?

>>29872946
That and that personal discord server, any other chuuba would get some turbo gachikois out of it, but apparently not her.

>>29872881
People were shitposting about it because of course they were.

>>29872392
Why though? What happened back then? Was criticism not allowed or something?

>>29870364
With all the retarded bait posters bringing dumb old timeloops and terrible commentary, how do you somehow manage to beat everyone with how retarded one can be?

>>29872954
bae...

>>29872828
The one dude was just a symptom of a bigger problem, some of her detractors actually had some valid points, like breaking a lot of promises made to fans, going back on things she said she's do, and some other stuff that I forget.
I assume she corrected enough of it that the critics are now drowned out.

>>29872198
I was a victim of the Numbercaust... It was a grim day...

>>29872965
20% is larger than the sponsorship share.
Koshien lost to graduation streams.
Do your reps.

>>29872732
And IryS fans too

>>29871691
Tempus didn't mindbreak anyone in here, but they did break the 2 other big generals, /hlgg/ and /NijiEN/. /hlgg/ especially is still fucked because of it.
Luxiem still mindbreaks /#/ to this day. Consider that cripple gold would not even be competitive without Luxiem, so a lot of HoloEN vs NijiEN bait inevitably involves Luxiem.
Salome gets an honorary mention because she made this thread and board unusable for a few weeks, but she's a shadow of herself now.
Millie botting incident had a lasting effect on this thread because a few /NijiEN/ regulars got crosslinked to it and then got banned in the resulting mod nuke for "tribalism". Some of them are still seething about it to this day and now we're the permanent boogeyman.

>>29873013
That just sounds like Ame.

>>29873018
As usual i was out fishing and came back to a dead as fuck thread

>>29872628
I really wonder how omocat feels. Like they're probably really happy but just imagine. You go from selling MIKU BUT FUCKED UP to this, to getting approached by Holo to make goods, to selling out in droves, to becoming an official partner. Must be really nice

>>29872768
I mean Selen was willing to pay for it herself and STILL got blocked...
face it man, you ain't getting any good shit from Riku.

>>29872759
what point are you even trying to make? SC's are relevant for the livers since it is one of their main sources of income. For the company its merchandise and sponsorships since those generate more money than the cut they get from superchats

>>29871691
$11 is the only right answer.

>>29873006
Hey, at least my points are new and genuine. I would rather watch fleshtubers for some competitive gamings.

Why are people timelooping the Superchat argument again?
>Hololive beat Nijisanji in both Global and EN tally
Oh I see why.

>>29873045
IRyStocrats were mollified by her hinting at a redesign. it was worse when we had no info other than her kimono getting canceled for seemingly no reason.

>>29872931
I still remember them insisting Tempus is EN3 lmao. They kept it up right until the debut. Funny to see it crash and burn into exactly what we expected: ghosting by EN except Mori and Bae.

>>29872897
She has a 11K daily average for the past 14 days, she might not be as fast as before but she's removing about 6k per day from Salome's lead

>>29872764
The day of unending shit posting will be when Kobo beat Pekora to 2 million.

>>29873008
She puts more efforts in her whitening than IRyS and her model.

>>29873071
they've basically made it in life, like if I were her I'd start working on the rest of the stuff in my bucket list because your career isn't going to get much better than this

>>29872768
>>29872869
You should consider why you'd want to support the company that treats its vtubers like second class citizens. Honestly I'm surprised that more NijiEN fans didn't get pissed off about it.

>>29873060
Kinda yeah, but Ame at least has a la creativedad stream every once in a while, Rosemi just seemed to just rapidly decline without any returns, dunno how it is nowadays though.

>>29873038
>20% is larger than the sponsorship share.
proof?

How long until Iluna overtakes Isegye Idol as the main Vtuber group in Korea?

>>29872963
You're mistaken sister, Kobo is a true blue american

Did we talk about how Reine has a cover with kotone coming out this week?

>>29873120
>hinting
I mean, I guess you can call that "hinting," in the same way the Tempus trailer "implied" that Holostars EN was a thing, for similar levels of downplaying

>>29873108
No they didn't , Mumei btfo Mysta. We don't count Zs in the real tally because we're not dirty elf haters.

>>29873190
If they don't do it soon, they're gonna miss their chance when HoloKR releases in January 2023.

>>29873059
>Luxiem still mindbreaks /#/ to this day.
Not really. It's just a lot of disappointing bait that is actually so bad it's sad.

>>29873059
Without Luxiem the EN Gold would have went away a long time ago, just like the brief and pointless "ID Gold". It would have been 90% Hololive wins following the normal flowchat. Did Gura stream? Did someone do a karaoke? Did someone play Minecraft?

>>29873185
> he can't archive surf
Lurk for 200 years

>>29872768
>females
>merch

>>29873217
>reading comprehension level: -12

>>29873038
>graduating vtubers is anons strategy in making money for his vtuber company
good job retard

>>29873208
>kotone
HOLY FUCK the OG rabbit hit it big! Kinda sad that she needs kouhai of the industry from oversea to lift her up at the same time.

>>29873222
Why would Cover start a Korean branch? They have no presence there whatsoever.

>>29873238
A man can dream.
Just like I can dream of Selen finally getting a new outfit and actually showing her fat titties

>>29872768
Nah , Niji will print their own shirts and sell it to you for $80 each

>>29873300
and other jokes nijiniggers tell themselves

>>29873293
I mean she already previously had a collab with Reine before though

>>29873236
>no proof
i accept your defeat

Qrd about millie stream and numbercaust?

>>29873300
...anon? Your newfaggotry is showing.

>>29873300
Not very connected to Live, but... Uproar has gained a lot of Korean fans

>>29873301
>females
>merch and costumes
in 4-5 years maybe

>>29873301
Only fat, no titties.

>>29873083
If SC is not relevant, then just disable them.
But AnyColor goes all the way to enabling SC and memberships to their main channel, which invalidates the point that SC is irrelevant.
Nijisanji actions speak louder than nijifans words.

>>29873059
>/hlgg/ especially is still fucked because of it.
Wait what
lmao

>>29873336
> he can't do his reps
Concession accepted.

Thread is so slow with no Tempus streams happening...

>>29873059
>now we're the permanent boogeyman.
THE MOST INFLUENTIAL THREAD