/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

NOOOOOOOOO SHES NOT AN IDOL KEEP HER AWAY FROM MY PURE SEISO IDOL

>>29802146
*shoves her huge fucking tits in your face*

Whores are bad
Marine is good because she's a shy girl roleplaying as a whore for her fans

>>29802068
I swear if you moved her from Holo to Vshojo, everyone would be calling her a whore.

>>29802068
>>29802146
>>29802207
>>29802281
>t. people not understanding sexy and fanservice
https://youtu.be/YTOWhMX30Q8
https://youtu.be/92mcMO0lTGQ
https://youtu.be/705IIOKCa0M
https://files.catbox.moe/6lbq01.mp4
here, know the difference

>>29802068
Whores:
Whores, Japan:rt

>>29802068

>>29802281
As for me it's not the Vshojo that I hate but Veibae and others camgirls
You can search how much you want but you will never hear Marine talk about sucking dick or see her roomate's tits

>>29802458
Stop the double standards, faggot.
>fanservice
Nice cope. Your oshi is no different from a vshojo member.

>>29802214
>pretending to be a whore.
Do you really believe that?

>>29802984
Noel...

>>29802984
NOEL BROS DON'T LOOK

>>29802984
So where does that put Noel and her rm?

>>29803199
I was talking about Marine though

I like how the people trying to defend this are literally proving that it's okay when Japan does it.

>>29803089
nta but having not watched marine or vshojo outside of clips, she has a significant difference.
Marine is actually funny

>>29803503
Yep

>>29803503
yeah

>>29803503
I actually wonder why she did ?

>>29803089
>sexy dance for the audience = explicit irl sex stories
you don't know what double standard means, cuck.

>>29803503
because it is

>>29803727(me)
what instead of why

Marine is an ascended fujo
Westerner whores are just camgirls that got into vtubing for easy money.

>>29803349
>So where does that put Noel and her rm?
Seeing as how she's a self admitted virgin, miles and miles above your whores.

Why is it that people always try to equate this stuff to VShojo antics as if provocative dancing is anything like describing your vaginal discharge? And when Veibae's disgusting shit gets posted in response they ignore it.

>>29804171
Yes Noel is a virgin, her rommate is not

>>29804230
Different levels of the same stuff.

Is it all an act tho, I can't imagine a girl this horny never getting dicked on the regular. Or are Jap men just that much of a beta. Maybe its time to go to Japan and try to hook up with a vtuber

>>29803349
Virgin whore

>>29804425
C-chan is also a virgin

>>29804687
>Or are Jap men just that much of a beta
Yes.

>>29804171
You're trying to tell me that someone that gives a boob/ass job to a dildo is still a virgin? No fucking shot.

no, she proved MY whores aren't bad. YOUR whores, however, are awful.

>>29804425
It's the reverse, Noel has never said it but her rm has.

>>29804562
Having a fanservice model and talking about irl sex or cheating on your husband while he is deployed in Afghanistan are not anywhere near the same thing.

>>29804758
>C-chan is also a virgin
with a body like that there's no fucking way.

>>29803598
>>29803666
>>29803793
peak hypocrisy like you are used from filthy weeaboo

>>29804853
Who talked about cheating on their husband? Clips?

>>29803503
Somehow, it literally is. I can't explain it either. Marine is infinitely more based than the unbridled slag nature of girls such as >>29802963. I think it has to do with maintaining a certain level of self respect. Idk.

>>29804687
I think Marine's roomate surely have something that makes men not loving her
Remind me of when she said that one of her man co-worker was praising her boss wife by comparing how much she was way more feminine than Houshou-san

>>29805239
You're abusing the use of the word too much.

>>29804914
If she's really a man hating feminist it's possible

>marine is the same as vshojo girls
meanwhile over in vshojo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3yp2eMYSRM

>>29802068


It's not about whether she is a whore or not, it's about whether she is a whore for (you) or not.
I don't see why this is a hard concept for anyone who is not being purposefully disingenuous to grasp. It's like getting distracted by the superficial similarity of dipping into lewd stuff, while missing the substantial differences in the implications of the stuff.
That is the difference between something like lewd fanservice in a 3d swimsuit debut, and something like talking about how hard your hookup at the bar blew your back out last night. Both nominally involve sexual topics, but obviously have very different implications.

Or in other words, it is okay when JP does it, because so far they are empirically the only ones who have demonstrated a capability of doing it, naturally with some exceptions and edge cases here and there of course.

>>29803089
Fanservice is when someone gives the fan what they want.
I am pretty sure nobody wanted to know about what Veibae has been doing while having sex.

Also it is always okay, no matter what, when Japan does it. I will never be japanese, but I agree that their culture makes their stuff stronger and firm, unlike the west which can turn around or against whenever some faggot wants to.

>>29805068
english mother fucker
do you speak it?

>>29805068
This board was founded on weaboo PRINCIPLES by /jp/ descendants.
You little /trash/ nigger SLUTS are refugee whores who snuck in and do nothing but undermine our good orderly JP society. Away with you western DEMON.

>>29805631
The harder you reach the more sad and pathetic you look.

>>29806019
Go back then. You will never be Japanese btw.

>>29802068
Meanwhile, at Vshojo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rq-OfiCqHo

>>29806124

>>29804808
There's this pornstar who only did anal because she was keeping her hymen for marriage anon, this shit happens.

>>29806124
And you will never be a woman.

>>29806124
Dumb little egirl worshipping nigger can only spout catchphrase. This board was never and will never be yours. Vwhorjo will be spat upon for your entire exitance here. Not because they talk about sex, not for some prudish reason, but because they are unfunny egirls. You stupid simp.

>>29806227
Holy cope

>>29806060
feel free to link all the clips of holowhores talking about their insensate cunts getting railed on vacation, i'll wait lmao

>>29802281
I actually don’t mind the whores in VShojo that actually seem nice. Melody seems fine. But Veibae and Froot are absolute cunts.
It also has to do with work ethic I think. I’m more partial to a hard working slut than a lazy one. Marine doesn’t just rely on fanservice, she puts a lot of effort into her content, which can’t be said for most of VShojo.

>>29802281
I mean it happened with Coco and Rushia so we have precedent to believe that.

ahoy

>>29806769
More like ahoe am I right?

its really nice seeing this exact same bait thread reposted 3 times a day

>>29804808
I think I can do a better titjob than her as male

>>29803503
>>29805068
People just say yes to that because they know it triggers you. The burden of proof is on you, post the clips of Marine talking about getting railed while high on drugs like she's a goddamn onahole, or literally ejecting a piece of meat out of her cunt after coming off birth control. We'll wait for you to find them.

>>29807824
>THEY HAVE TO SAY THE EXACT SAME THINGS OR IT DOESN'T COUNT!!!!!!!!
Nice mental gymnastics. Sad!

>>29807925
yes

screaming "ITS DUH SAME" over and over wont make it true

1. I have never cared what the lowtest faggots here/other mentally ill unicorns consider to be whores. If a girl has fun feeling sexy and desired by her audience, good.
2. A whore is only bad when she's also lazy.

screaming "ITS NOT DUH SAME" over and over wont make it true

>>29806238
On the other hand, why would he listen to a woman who's pretending to be a man lecturing him on what it is to be a woman?

She's probably a fat uggo at least Noel or Miko are cute

>>29802068
marine isn't a whore.

>>29802068
They are, you just have a double standard because she speaks a different language. If she did any of this in English, everyone on this board would be reeling as hard as they do whenever Veibae opens her mouth.
>>29802214
Overdosing on copium

>>29808377
>If a girl has fun feeling sexy and desired by her audience, good
Reddit is that-a-way pal

>>29809313
That's cool, so you know how to get back. Now, can you tell me how to get in your mom's gigantic cooch?

You can try to force this all you want but it won't work
Marine is one of the most seiso holos unironically, did you guys miss the groping fest of Nene?
The false equivalence you're trying to push is too obviously indefensible

>>29809412
>NO U
Shut up faggot
>>29803503
Imagine what they look like dude. I bet they look like either Yugioh niggers or wrestling neckbeards. They probably leave shit streaks on any chair they sit on. They're faggot coomers but somehow even lower due to being otaku too. They've gotta smell like SHIT

>>29809495
people know there's a difference intuitively, failing to understand why when trying to analyze it is a trap for these midwits

Someone else said it simply: Marine is precocious. The others are promiscuous. Former is endearing but latter is nope.

>>29808377

>>29808753
She can sing and dance ok. Didn't seem totally out of breath. I think you need to be in reasonable shape to do that.

>>29809412
go akasupa your brains over a wall

>>29802068

>>29803089
>>29805747
>>29809181
>>29803503

Imagine that
>describing how you were plunged by a guy on stream, talking about queefing, your bloody period, your sex encounters and making jokes about sex and dicks as well as literally working as a cam-whore
being the same as
>Making songs and video clips with very suggestive content and being erotic here and there.

One if a full blown whore, the other is just hornier than normal and creative about it.
I know that you are virgin simps, but damn. You are taking it on a whole other level to defend some women that wouldn't fuck you even if their lives were in danger.

>>29810057
it's ok because she's (insert cope here).

>>29810018
nah, i can help you do that if you want tho
>>29809513
cope
whores are good, keep crying

> fucking cucks, they're not whor-

>>29803503
>it's okay when Japan does it.

yes and?

Gura and pego are going kill marine

>>29810269

You know they will never fuck you, right?

>fags STILL seething and trying to forced wrong comparisons with the kind of shit vshojo does
roru
rumao
rofurumao

>>29804914
unironic rug muncher?

>>29803503
western wemen being whores is just infinitely more annoying, its like their entire personality
just look at Amy Schumer

>>29802281
Marine wears a scantily clad outfit and moves seductively. That's not comparable to what Vshojo is doing.

It's like conflating Marilyn Monroe with the 2 dollar whore downtown

>>29810434
you know i'm not mentally ill enough to watch vtubers for anything outside entertainment, right?

>>29810269
>whores are good, keep crying
post tits or get the fuck off

>>29802068
Fairly sure that her endgame is to become even more lewd. Shes on her way to wear a I or J-Cup as well. Shes about to slim down, which means firmer breasts and usually cup size increase if she doesn't loose to much fat on her tits. That she wore an F-Cup before was because she was fat and slimmed down to an H-Cup. She didn't lose too much weight from her tits and she became more firm. And that hipbone of hers must weight at least 50 pounds in order to contain that ass and those thick thighs alone. I guess shes already slim enough but maybe her body gets in the way and she wants to get more sporty and lean to become a better idol. We know she takes a lot of care about her weight and body nowadays. Back during her teens all she did was heavy makeup. Its an indication that she grown and that this is her dreamjob. Expect 10 or 20 more years with Marine and I doubt that she will ever quit unless she gets preggo.

>>29809954
I hope you realize that the entire video had many cut ins. She wasn't out of breath because it was a prerecord as well, so she didn't sing while dancing. She also began to work with a few choreographers for almost a year now. A year ago she was able to sing and do the simple idol moves already for an whole full hour. But now she can perform a full dance set like every other holo can. We know she can dance because she performed similar moves 3 months ago, I post the link.

Her wanting to improve was because coco dunked on her so hard and that people made fun of her and she has a fragile ego. Shes a slow learner as well, most people can dance better than the 4 moves that hit people by suprize she shown in less than 2 months of maybe half an hour of practice. I think it was wata-sensei who is in charge of many of hololives dance acts who has erased most of Marines fears when it comes to danceing. Most of the stuff she learned was stuff she already knew and needed practice.

Heres the video I am talking about by the way, the first one where she actually acted like an idol dancer who wasn't just standing around https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLGCYbnYhPg

>>29807925
Huge difference between being suggestive and talking about gross shit or how much of a whore you are. Understand that.
>>29804687
Yes, they are, and it is not an act. See: Choco. Someone needs to put a bun in that oven.

>>29810479
the unironic rug munchers I know would never pander to horny males like that. then again, they're not japanese and don't know how to make money so idk anymore.

>>29802068
Being lewd doesnt make one a whore you retard.
Stop using buzzwords you dont understand.

>>29811258

By your arguments, it doesn't seem like it.

>>29803503
yes.

>>29811960
I don't even think she'd stop if she got preggo, just scale back on demanding content and throw in a break to go on a short maternity leave

>>29806212
Can't believe mouse would say these things

>>29812726
Delusional
Marine could not do that to her fans
She'd retire at marriage desu

>>29802068
>proves whores under an oppressive regime aren't bad
FTFY

>>29804687

>Or are Jap men just that much of a beta

Unfortunately, society kinda made them. Japan has really low birth rates and people lose their virginity over the age of 30. If you think that makes them complete betas then consider this.

Women there don't work anywhere near as much as men. Literally man of them want to be housewives so that they won't have to deal with the suicide inducing work environment.

Men work both a lot and in harsh environments. They literally don't have the time or energy to socialise and get laid.

>>29812838

desu is the equivalent of the verb to be in Jp.

If you want to be wrong, then do it with arguments.

>post of Veibae who is actually a huge whore
>"N-No, Marine is the same, stop defending her! Its okay when japan does it!!! uuuuuuuuah"
So Veibae cuck fanbase is just baiting as always.

>>29813133
EOP please tell me more about how Marine would totally continue with a husband and live a double life

>>29812726
>Marine vividly sharing all her new mom stories with her stream

Marine is a high class whore. You ask how much, you can't afford her.
Vshojou are all off the corner discount dime a dozen whores. Cheap and easy.

>>29813133
fucking newfag

>>29813334

Exactly like other vtuber that have husbands do now. Of course, it also depends on the husbands job.

>>29802068
only because she's japanese and from hololive
whoever does the same and doesn't meet these criteria will get shat on

>>29813549
I can already imagine her rant where she baits chat to tell them their most favorite fetish in order for someone to say "lactation" where she watched AV FOR RESEARCH because she wants to figure out how to seduce her husband with that stuff because milk convoy arive.

But realistically, revealing that shes a mother now would turn her into absolute NTR bait, she would never reveal that she has kids and a husband. She thinks of herself as lewd and not a whore. Its part of her gapmoe so to speak. She talks way more about her life than any other holo I'm sure you already know.

>>29813914
Massive EOP retardation

>>29814041

Remind me how many non Vshojo girls are called whores because of how they act?

Wait none really? Millie, Nina and Enna aren't called whores? Just lewd?

Holobronies are obviously holding themselves from calling them whores so that they won't get called out! It's not like I could be wrong.
After all, I, a true Vshojo fan, deny the mere existence of their counter-arguments.

>>29803503
It is tho

>>29814375

Projecting now, aren't we?

>>29805068
>t.seanig

OH MY SCIENCE

>>29814468

>>29803503
There's a diffeence between yelling sex and shoving your tits into people's faces and describing the taste of the vaginal discharge that you ate like the West does.
The entirety of the West's humor is that of Amy Schummer, and that's enough for me to dislike them.

>>29816051
>The entirety of the West's humor is that of Amy Schummer, and that's enough for me to dislike them.
this

>>29809949
Why can she go so long without streaming/releasing anything and be fine with Cover? How much raw money is she making from just the simps?

>>29802068
I love whores.

>>29803503
uhhh true tho?

>>29802068
i wanna suck on those titties man

>>29802068
>>29820708

>>29802068
Pussy ASMR when?

>>29811960
>Fairly sure that her endgame is to become even more lewd. Shes on her way to wear a I or J-Cup as well. Shes about to slim down, which means firmer breasts and usually cup size increase if she doesn't loose to much fat on her tits. That she wore an F-Cup before was because she was fat and slimmed down to an H-Cup. She didn't lose too much weight from her tits and she became more firm. And that hipbone of hers must weight at least 50 pounds in order to contain that ass and those thick thighs alone.

Wow I missed a lot.

>>29813133
how fucking new lmao

>>29803109
Girl throws out a sexual innuendo
>OMG SHES A WHORE!
Incels should be killed. People like you think that one smile your way means that you can fuck a girl.

>>29803089
Ah, the "cope" response. The standard go-to for absolute retards that run out of arguments.

>>29811134
do vshitjo fags really?

>>29813196
if they want a mentally ill smelly roastoid western woman why dont they just go outside? i will never understand vshitters

>>29802068
Compared to actual whores in western vtubers she's not all that much of a whore.

>>29803503
Japan does it in another way, so yes.
They don't go full on talking about sucking cock and gargling on balls the first chance they get.

>>29824999
Yes, they have to make shit up to justify thinking the way they do. It's quite sad.

>>29802984
>Veibea's not the camgirl in Vshojo brainlet that's Melody
>Didn't marine literally do a bathing stream with another girl where it was VERY clear they were seeing each other naked?

>>29826901

I'm geussing the guy is saying that they all act and behave like literal e-girl camgirls with no shame, Veibae being practically nude and can't help but to show her real self sometimes speaks to this. Melody being an actual whore, making actual porn and having a chaturbate is just the cream on top.

It's hilarious watching these retarded children list off English vtubers in their argument
Shows how absolutely little they know about Japanese vtubers, and then they make claims about a woman they don't know the first thing about
Veibae is like Gundou who no one likes, VShojo is like Gundou who no one likes.

>>29819628
same. i think only faggots hate them.

>>29826901
Yeah that's just Japanese culture bigot, girls bathe together occasionally, so do men
You gonna call HimeHina whores now? Do you even know who they are?

>>29810565
I'll begin to call Vshojo the Amy Schumer of vtubers from now on.

>>29824999
fandead, please

>>29803503
Yes.

>>29813133
そうですね

>>29813133
jesus christ I knew /vt/ was filled with newfags but holy fuck.

>>29826901
LOL going to onsen is a "whore" thing to do now. this board is full of ironic weeb tourists. holy shit.

>>29813133
Saying you're new without saying you're new desu

>>29813133
well baited, I bow.

>>29802068
There is a difference between being lewd and sometimes seductive and your entire personality being "LOL GUYS IM A SLUT I SUCK COCK LOOK AT ALL THE COCK I GUZZLE SHAMLESSLY LOL I HAVE 40 STDS LOL I LOVE CUM"

>>29830512
Not a single vshijo is like that though

>>29802068
marine is sexy
veibae is just a whore

>>29803503
>it's okay when Japan does it.
there is nothing wrong about that

>>29811960
Based

>>29830590
see >>29802458 then >>29810018

>>29802207
*sucks on them while still agreeing that Marine is not a whore*

>>29814298
>Spoiler
Anon, Japan eat that shit up like breakfast
Check any Comiket catalog, that shit would made up at least half of it

>>29810186
>describing how you were plunged by a guy on stream, talking about queefing, your bloody period, your sex encounters and making jokes about sex and dicks as well as literally working as a cam-whore
Maeine does all of that though or did as her roommate and her song lyrics also describe sex.

>>29826896
Man, to this day, I still don't understand the allure of back ... Maybe I should look more, but idk ... Sounds like a weird thing to have a fetish on

>>29831432
>>describing how you were plunged by a guy on stream, talking about queefing, your bloody period, your sex encounters and making jokes about sex and dicks as well as literally working as a cam-whore
>Maeine does all of that though or did as her roommate

>>29831501
It's the feminine features that is the allure. Feminine shoulder, slim neck and hour glass shape figure of shoulder, back and ass. I wouldn't call it a fetish to appreciate the female form.

>>29831501
>hot girl stripping
+
>monkey brain hormones make dopamine when imagine taking hot girl as fucktoy

>>29803089
So I guess everybody who voice acts in an ecchi anime is just as bad as women with an only fans account?

Thats basically the difference between marine and vshojo

Marine is a very well put together women (watch clips/streams where they meet her irl) who acts horny online
Veibae is a whore irl

>>29831432
Post the clips or streams with timestamps.

>>29831432

>Maeine does all of that though or did as her roommate
She never described any of it on any of her streams.

>and her song lyrics also describe sex.
And again, her song is being erotic. Noone is denying that. But it still, doesn't describe sex in vulgar detail. It mentions it. It refers to it. It implies it.

It's not the same as describing in full detail your being plunged by a guy on stream, talking about queefing, your bloody period, your sex encounters and the rest I said.

It's like saying that oh yes that guy over there slapped 2 people. I cut 2 people's arms off. We both inflicted violence, so same thing.

>>29831432
Based retard

Is Maria Hernandez a test for HoloJAV?

So anyway what is going on?

>>29803503
THREAD ENDS HERE.
A Whore is a whore, period.

IT'S LITERALLY NOT FUCKING HARD.

>>29833508
t. vei

>>29802068
Are those erect nipples? And can you kinda see them through the bra/leotard? Fukkin hot.

>>29807925
Find me ONE clip of Marine describing a sexual encounter she's had with a man. Just one. Doesn't even have to involve penetration, a handy will do.

>>29814298
I don't know man, if it came out that marine was a legit housewife milf her numbers might actually improve. It might just be me but, I view a chuuba being married diffrently to a chuuba having a boyfriend. I don't know why though.

Reasons not to watch Marine:
>hates her fans
>never had to work a day in her life - born into wealth and has good looks
>never streams
>she is extremely bitchy
>humour mostly consists of making fun of her colleagues
>ptoud fujoshit
>irritating voice
>she was never a Hololive fan - only joined because Nijisanji rejected her
Reasons to watch Marine:
>

Btw her 3D show was amazing, I watched twice. Marine again came up with a new song and surprised everyone with it. She is proving once again she is one of the top talents in the industry.

>>29836461
Yes. She is my new JP oshi.
I will conquer the japanese language to support her better.

>>29835038
There's too many

>>29838447
So it should be pretty easy. Just get the first one.

>>29810269
Either you're a fat bitch with an onlyfans or a pathetic neckbeard loser that will never get laid

>>29838545
He can't

>>29803503
you're literally proving that vshojokeks are mentally deficient because you can't see the difference besides Japan

"whores" or rather, the loose term you guys throw around, never was bad. Its literally extra effort by the streamer to pander to audience.You guys like lewd fan art of seiso tubers anyway. I dont know why u dont just worship v shojo. Its the same thing with less steps.

>>29841878
>literally extra effort by the streamer to pander to audience.
talking about how you was spitroasted as a flesh pipe while high off your ass to chat is not 'extra effort' vei

>>29802068

>>29802281
Nah, vshojos get called whores because they literally talk about getting fucked silly by randos (at least vei has) IRL. Holos don't do that. They may be flirty or sexy but don't actually talk about literal whore behavior.

>>29806019
LITERALLY THIS newfag summer tourists weren't there to see all the vchuuba posts shitting up the catalog before this board came to be

>>29842647
this

>>29802068
The amount of mental gymnastics and cope itt is hilarious.

>>29803503
>it's okay when Japan does it
exactly

>>29803109
>believe
watch streams

>>29803727
watch no one answer your question cause they don't know themselves lmao