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* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *Here it goes>114,404: Miko (Hololive)>71,833: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>41,478: Marine (Hololive)>39,156: Lize (Nijisanji)>37,470: Tsukasa (Indie)>32,235: Korone (Hololive)>31,597: Hayato (Nijisanji)>30,701: Lamy (Hololive)>28,079: Toya (Nijisanji)>20,396: Salome (Nijisanji)>21,205: Toya (Nijisanji)>16,811: Botan (Hololive)>15,778: Miko (Hololive)>14,554: Mio (Hololive)>14,146: Mumei (Hololive)>12,400: Reid (Neo Porte)>12,233: CHloe (Hololive)>11,404: Watame (Hololive)>10,106: Shu (Nijisanji)Great live to start the month in a high note
*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*>https://playboard.co/en/>http://ikioi-ranking.com/>https://vrabi.ml/>https://www.vstats.jp>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-rankingHololive sites>https://holo.poi.cat/>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html>https://trackholo.live/en/Nijisanji sites>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly>https://twitter.com/2434rankings>https://twitter.com/2434subscriberTwitch>https://sullygnome.com/>https://twitchtracker.com/>https://stats.roki.sh/Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp
Damage control by nijinterns is already on-going in the other thread which is why # is civil right now and this event serves as a perfect cover for Enna so be sure to post the enna N word moment in the catalog tomorrow.
>>29783874Miko is prime rape material, something about here just screams the best rape there could ever be.
Will Ren delete the tweet?
So what's up with nu-Vox then? Give me the breakdown Nijisisters, is he just kinda weird?https://twitter.com/RenZott0/status/1554124586635374593
>>29783920REMINDER THAT MIKO IS **NOT** FOR LEWDS!
>>29783874Please do not lewd Miko.
the history of Z discussion>Before Sana's graduation>H: Z shouldn't be counted>N: Z should be counted>After Sana's graduation>H: Z can be counted but it should be used in the same manner everywhere.>N: Z shouldn't really be counted. Not really. What I mean is, Z shouldn't be counted from now on. Right. Yea lets go with that.>H: And the peak for the stream is the other none Z peak right?>N: .......... ....... ....... yea.... sure....>Today>N: Hah, MIKO Z'd her whole stream shouldn't count!!!!!!!!!!!!!! holobronies btfo!>H:..............
POST MIKO BABY 35P BROS
>>29783874Why is Miko is such a hot retarded baby
>>29783958She is a rapist actually...
>>29783920
>>29783981he's retarded pls understand
>>29783920Silver boy is back to his throne!!
CONGRATS ON YOUR 4TH ANNI MIKOFOR YOU, WE POST BOTH YOURS AND CHAMA'S PORN
>>29784038Is Divine punishment then!
>>29783981Is this the yab to end all yabs?
>>29784102nah, it's pretty minor, just like all of the other "yabs" that you people have blown out of proportion.
Monthly Clip Numbers592.6M HL to 354.6M NJ
>Marine 2.01M>Pekora still 1.98M
>>29784135Based, will be remembered
>>29784135
>>29783920Kino stream
>>29784135damn, this nigga delivers on his promises
>>29784068Going in strong I see, noice, advanced abayo
>>29784102Not even close you retard.
>>29784102It's not really a yab but it shows how retarded this guy and how little he knows of the vtuber scene
why chammers tho
>>29784198
>>29783920>>29784058
>>29784102nah this yab is not that big but its not that small either
>>29784102No but it kind of makes the dude look pathetic.
>>29784257Yesterday anon promised to post both Chammers and Migo lewds I believe, he has something like 180+ pics in his folder
>>29784167MV is doing some real work.
>>29784273>>29784257I only have chammers, miko and hoshikawa lewdsplus she was in the stream, so I don't see why not
>>29784306this is bigger thohttps://litter.catbox.moe/uflf8n.webm
How many times has koshien slipped so far this year, anyway?
>>29783920Rape the rapist
>Actual defending doxx in bait threadI will now hate Nijifags /here/
damn, anon deliveredrespect
>>29784102Maybe not, but I'm happy that this makes the holoxniji (EN) collab is more unlikely now.
>>29784347
Seeing the birthday stream, I wonder, why is Miko picked by Yagoo first? Why only picked Pekora after a year? Is Pekora not good enough?Why people don't watch Pekora more? Even doomposting her during her debut?Why can't Pekora have a stronger throat so that she can stream more? Read the SC?Why people don't watch Pekora more? She need Jun to get married to surpass him.Why is what Pekora do not enough to attract more viewers? Is it because her voice is not suitable for singing?Is it because she is not sexy enough even with the bunny lady design?Why won't people watch Pekora more?WHY CAN'T PEKORA GET TWO MILLION SUBS?WHY CAN'T PEKORA GET TWO MILLION SUBS?You guys really want Pekora to take off her coats every time she streams?You really want Pekora to sing and dance like pro even though she was just started?You sometimes even went to Miko's stream when Pekora was streaming?Where are the nousagis when she need them?Is Yagoo abandoning her too? What about collab with Yagoo? Will it ever be a thing?What else do you want from Pekora?Why people don't watch Pekora more?
>>29783981he’s a 30 year-old boomer who knows nothing about vtubersalso niji management needs a better on-boarding process
*FINAL GAIJIN TALLY OF THE DAY*>14,137: Mumei (Hololive)>11,085: Shu (Nijisanji) (No Z: 9,818) >9,659: Axel (Holostars)>8,052: Noir (Holostars)>7,943: Vox (Nijisanji)>7,744: Magni (Holostars)>7,628: Ren (Nijisanji)>7,400: Ike (Nijisanji)>6,549: Noir (Holostars)>6,539: Enna (Nijisanji)>5,785: Scarle (Nijisanji) (No Z: 4,475)>5,545: Kaela (Hololive)>5,028: Baelz (Hololive)
>>29784401
>>29784404
>>29784404Actually same questions anon...
>>29784430>GAIJIN GOLD SO FAR FOR AUGUST1. Mumei (Hololive) - 14,137 (Getting Over It w/Fauna)>GOLD PER COMPANYHolopro - 1Nijisanji – 0Others - 0>GOLD PER STREAMER1x: Mumei>SILVER PER COMPANYHolopro - 0Nijsanji - 1Others - 0>SILVER PER STREAMER1x: Shu>BRONZE PER COMPANYHolopro - 1Nijsanji - 0Others – 0>BRONZE PER STREAMER1x: Axel
>>29783981My god the fucking arrogance of this fucking nijitard. You know what, I was ambivalent towards this guy. Now I fucking hate him. I give zero fucks if they know each others RMs but this is absolute doxxfaggotry at its worst, way worse than any doxxbeat could dream of doing. The HoloWall is only going to get higher from here on out when faggots like this are doing this blatant baiting. Any hopes nijifans have of a cross EN collab with any of the Holo girls happening is approaching zero at an ever accelerating pace because of these idiots. Good though, this is what nijisanji deserve for kicking Hololive when they were down on the ground.
>>29784430No wonder ren is trying to leech
>>29784102no. But his fujofans will turned off
>>29784400how does that make it more unlikelyWhy are people treating this shit as a "yab"
Wolfychu for EN3 then Z*tto and chu will break the walls between Niji and Holo. It came to me in a nightmare
>>29784102its not even the first time this has happenedhttps://twitter.com/AdmiralBahroo/status/1398696702434066433
>>29784484
>>29784430Iluna didn't do as well as expected.
>>29784404I ddont want pekora to do any of thoseWhat i do want is for pekora to up her shorts game since it was and is prett weak
When will Hoshikawa get a gold?I want to see Hoshikawa lewds
>>29784552
>>29784543did she ever reply?
>>29784543i nearly forgot about this cuck.
>>29784375They are called nijiniggers for a reason and is the laughing stock
>>29784102No but it is a kind of "why did you have to?" Even if this was him tagging another NijiEN it is kinda awkward in terms of twitter norms. When he could've just replied to a funny tweet she made. From this people act stupid, dox, etc. It is a chance for people to make a scene and puts Moomers in an awkward spot where she could accidentally cause drama by doing nothing.
>>29783981Reminder, this is the kind of people NijiEN fanbase currently has
>>29783920>20,396: Salome (Nijisanji)>21,205: Toya (Nijisanji)um, anon?this thread is dead anyway.
>>29784600Go watch her rm, or something.
>>29784375They have always been like this, people think that we hate nijiniggers for no reason but they are the most disgusting beings in Vtubing world, the only reason why people hate Hololive is because they are unironically seething just because guys enjoy cute girls doing cute things and they know they will always be inferior to them and for that reason they aren't actually happy watching Nijisanji, that's why they keep comparing their "livers" every single day and trying to blow out of proportion every small victory. However, every single day that passes, nijiniggers keep giving even more reasons to hate them
>>29784600graduation or maybe if she gets picked to be a koshien captain. her latest outfit reveal is barely even enough to hit the top 10 these days.
>>29783920Meh, Gura could have easily got that of she wanted.
>>29784617
>>29784523its retarded but jp twitter has a retarded rule about not tagging someone if you are not in a convo with themkobo actually got a little flack from it since apparently vtubers have to follow jp rules
>>29784618What do you think? Regarding Ren, as long as MUMEI doesn’t give him any attention it’s fine
>>29784618did you really need to ask that
>>29784636Which is why the correct move for Moom is doing absolutely NOTHINGIn this social game, who blink first will lose
>>29784618I don’t think she really acknowledges anyone from outside Hololive other than Enna that one time iirc
>>29784353stop putting shit on litter, that link expires over time and that's bad for archival
>>29784643Nijisanji was a mistake.
>>29784643>doxThat is not how you use the word. I understand in vtuber scene you use this to mean other acc, but it is triggering for me to see people not using the term properly.
>>29784549They did pretty much exactly as well as expected by anyone but the idiots who decided NijiEN should start hiring based on who has the most dead subs
>>29784102Lol no, he just made every schizo here look like fucking Albert Einstein with how retarded he is
>>29784500Now say it without crying like a bitch
>>29784543This one is fine honestly. A greeting followed by relevant topic.
>>29783920DON'T LEWD MY DAUGHTER YOU FUCKERS
>>29784636He did do that to Debi from NijiJPhttps://twitter.com/RenZott0/status/1554060600426508288>The most powerful creature I have encountered on this planet by far is @debidebiru_sama.>They might even rival my own alien strength.. I want to know more about them
>>29784600honestly if she's in a nijimale stream that wins gold, I'll gladly post lewds but until then...well
>>29784712Good thing no one in the conversation is Japanese
>>29784745Enna actually has something she interested in. Her karaoke.
>>29783920Sekkusu with migo
>>29784600Some anons posted around 100 lewds of Lamy and Hoshikawa just yesterday or the day before yesterday
>>29784775it's too late now. /hlgg/ distorted the meaning of the word like did with "rrat". Now newfags will always learn the incorrect term.
>>29784565I don't mind Marine getting it first, but she did it by whoring herself out more blatantly than usual is what irks me.2M seems like a pretty big deal for Pekora too I don't understand why it was stuck at 1.9M for the longest time. Why don't it stuck at 2.1M instead?
Would it cause more drama if he deletes the tweet or doesn’t?
There's a lot of porn here, chances of the thread being nuked?
>>29784781
It's a coincidence that I'm bringing this up while Nijisanji has been shitting itself lately but did Miko really not even make it to 120k? 115k? Holy shit the recline
>>29784689Literal tourist central lmao. Outfit revealed that gtfo the stream
>>29784835Even earlier than thathttps://twitter.com/renzott0/status/1549596038860013568
>>29784909as i said its her shorts gameshe could have gotten 2m first if she actually stepped those up especially when she was out
>>29784924
>>29784644kek, my bad, this had to be added by hand because live-ranking didn't piock it up. Good eye
>>29784835That's why I said EN. Other company and senpai is already poor judgement. But even if he went >@Pomu hello pomy the fairyIt'd probably be a very weird situation where I doubt they'd get how to react and probably be told on discord hey just reply to a tweet. Not bad but its just not getting the system.
jesas when did this bitch incline so much
>>29784689Hoshikawa is pretty popular I think? Why was she not picked as Koshien captain like Lize and Saku?
>>29784921depends on what dram you are talking about
This is brutal
>>297849273rd most watched stream, only beaten by her return and her birthday earlier this year
This thread is so peaceful, thanks Rentard
>>29784102not really, but is going to be annoying for Mumei is literally her BD week and she will be put into drama channels for the first time over a tweet
>>29784927Nobody knows, maybe due to the tech issues at the start of the stream or maybe people are picking concerts to watch this month because there's too much of it
>>29784618technically, i guess, since one of his fans super chatted her about it a couple of days laterhttps://youtu.be/7Ykkx0loyS8?t=11297
>>29784927Technical issues at the start that's why
>>29784991
>>29784822luh mao
>>29784921no one cares outside of Japanese twitter users who think white people should know Japanese twitter etiquette and containment breakers from /here/ trying to create drama
>>29784909Pekora was stuck at 1.98M.Marine was stuck at 1.97M until the spike from her BD+MV.So basically, that was Peko's fault for not use Miko to get the boost.
>>29784643>DoxLITERALLY EVERYONE AND THEIR GRANDMA KNOWSEVEN YOUTUBE RECOMENDS THEIR PERSONAL ACCOUNTSVTUBERS ROOMMATES THEMSELVES FOLLOW OTHER ROOMMATESTHE REST OF THE WORLD DOESN'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THIS BOARD STUPID RULESStop only browsing this board, stupid ape.
>>29784600Anon she got one this very year
>>29785045Holy shit this shill cannot shut up it's actually hilarious lmao
>>29785044if HSKW really wanted to properly leech, she easily could and really become pretty much a holo, but she's too prideful for that
why is it always haachama lewds
>>29785047Salami not like this...
>>29784500This is only "dox" to you if you already know her roommate account and stalk her followers list. Take a look at yourself first.
>>29784974Shorts are cringe though. I've never seen a good shorts by vtubers. It clots the video page of your channel too. Also people would want to watch clips anyway.
>>29784644nta, but I only have 2 hands anon, one is being used for scrolling while the other is being used for stroking, I have to free both my hands just to type, I mean I can try with my feet
>>29785141because it's always a haaton.
lmaooo. Here it is. It looks triggered too
>>29784543Reminds me of this one, it seems normal in the EN scene. But this time it feels worse because it's like doxxed
>>29785068
>>29785133first time I post in this shithole and already a mental patient replied to me, awesome
I don't want to alarm you but I don't think these images are safe for work.
>>29785113>MikoYikes.
>>29784921Doesn't i guess? Unless she replies to confirm their acquaintances
>>29785146Marine and Watame's shorts are doing very good though
>>29784974She plays a bunch of FOTM games though, how come those didnt boost her that much, if at all? Tourists looking for Rust from anyone?
>>29785142Sure, anon. I'll rescind that trash, this fucker is still annoying beyond belief now.
wtf the jannies nuked my porn spam in 5 minutes every time i did it
>>29785142Typical favela behavior, literal ape.
>>29785146watame shorts brings new viewersand pekora clipping scene is dead so she basically has to rely on shorts
>>29785198
>>29785196Scarra was the one complaining that Hololive won’t answer their calls lol
>>29785196scarra trying to wingman sykkuno in the super early days of holoEN holy hell i forgot that happened.
>>29785196Yeah this is normal for fleshtubers. Not really a big thing. Different case for corpo vtubers with possible connection.
>>29785045She has content that girls like and picked up some Luxiemsisters that way
>>29783981I don't buy the "he's just a boomer" nijicope. They hired >100k subs content creators for iluna, there's no way he's not being retarded on purpose.
>>29785121>Defending doxxes>picrel
>>29785101>and containment breakers from /here/ trying to create dramaAnd succeeding, you surely mean!
>Thread relatively peaceful>Delicious lewds Ah home
>>29784643disgusting
at the least stop posting haachama porn retards if you're gonna sacrifice yourself.
>>29785260haachama porn always stays up for some time, and since it's accompanied with miko this time, miko is staying up as wll
>>29784921It's still not that bad desu, but if he unironically destroys the possibility of any holoniji (EN) collab then I would kneel.
>>29785146Holo 3d shorts are great though, except Mori
>>29785351Are you gay!?
>>29785284>pekora clipping scene is deadBut why? It is because all nousagis are held prisoners during her streams so they don't need anymore clips?
>>29785351miko loves haachama
>>29785252how can it boost her when most of her viewers are nousagis or are already subbed to her. as ive said shorts or clippers are one of the ways that brings in new people for a talent
>>29785213People in numbers thread prefer to talk about twitter drama than actual number progression from streams
>>29785065Damm a red one. And she literally doesn't know him too? Cuz if she does she would not have read that.
>>29784427Wouldn't have taken too much effort to acquaint himself. He's basically the worst sort of person to end up doing vtubing.
And that makes 29.One more left boys.
miko is not sexy
>>29785315He isn't really a boomer, even Noir Oji-san gets randomly tagging is awkward. Kind of just obvious socially. But he also probably thinks this is quirky and not just kinda odd and uncomfortable.
>>29785251Those are cringes too.
>>29783981I was indifferent to iluna before this, but now I want to see them straight up crash and burn. A wave of literal normalfag subhumans.
>>29785390One of pekoras dedicated clippers stopped iirc
>>29783920>>29697100Not even 120k for that leeching whore? Heeeehh, she keeps becoming more and more disappointing. Who the fuck said she was part of the 1st army already besides 35tards? The only good numbers she ever had were when everybody was not streaming.
>>29784102Naw but this is another yab that isn't contained /here/, similar to Luca's copyright thingey.NijiEN reputation is dying of a thousand cuts.
>>29785351Why are you gay? Then post your preferred lewds, be the change that you want to see
>>29785421More like one faggot keeps shilling about Enna so someone had enough.
>>29783981How much is mumei seething right now? The fact he did this after her roommate followed him is top retarded
>>29785213>>>29782475>>>29780517not enough yous?
>>29785101Good thing their management isnt japanese then oh wait...
>>29785121Neck yourself.
>>29785477she's reclining like the rest of Hololivegive her a break
*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*Here it goes>14,137: Mumei (Hololive)>11,085: Shu (Nijisanji)>9,659: Axel (Hololive)>8,052: Noir (Hololive)>7,943: Vox (Nijisanji)>7,744: Magni (Hololive)>7,628: Ren (Nijisanji)>7,400: Ike (Nijisanji)>6,549: Noir (Hololive)>6,539: Enna (Nijisanji)>5,785: Scarle (Nijisanji)>5,028: Baelz (Hololive)
>>29785421I need more hands anon
>>29784523Another incident of unprofessionalism.Hololive won't collab with folks that can't be professional on stream.Which is why till date the only two VShojo collabs were Ironmouse and Nyanners.
>>29785519xhe wants more still
>>29785121You've been staying here for too long anon, it's one thing for general viewer to init dox shit, it's other thing for one with big follow to initiate dox shit (to others even)
>>29785359>Nijibeggars exist>Their talents keep destroying any chance of a Holo and Niji collab happeningFuck they might be based
Fucking bitches and whores ahhhhhhWhy can't family friendly streamers win for once?
>>29785450You sound like a retard.
>>29785546Sui porn please
>>29785560Walled garden something something Hololive management blocked the collab something something
>>29785547More Hands you say?
>Enna yesterday: 6.5K>Enna today: 5.2K and risingWhen did Enna get so strong?I know that she has been inclining like the rest of Nijisanji EN but those numbers are high even for her.Is it the new audience Iluna brought in?
>>29785477
>>29785601Sorry I don't have other words to describe tik tok format videos.
>Axel's PL youtube account has 1.55k subs after 8 yearsYAGOO YOU FUCKING SAVIORFAG
Marine and Pekora clips.Sort by upload date.
>>29785617AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HELP ME FREE UP MY HANDS MAG LORD
>>29784643Doxxisanji
>>29785635Trying too hard.
>>29785390>EN clipping scene.
>>29785260whatever weird forcefield protects haachama from youtube also protects her from jannies here
>>29785415Huh, so Gura actually has the ability to bring in new people, like, for real? Even after 2 years and when not streaming for an extended period of time? Clippers help that much?
>>29785359Kiara: "It appears we've had another managerial development that means I'm never going to be able to interact with Pomu again, ever, on any platform or in private" "Yeah, it was because Ren Zotto tagged Mumei, that was the final straw that made Omega blast them all with his (I can't believe he-they're making me say this) 'never collab' ray"
>>29785671Fucking coomers ruined everything.
>>29785541>9,659: Axel (Hololive)>8,052: Noir (Hololive)>7,744: Magni (Hololive)>6,549: Noir (Hololive)>Hololivefuck off beggar
>>29785667>8 years account surely his content stared later?
>>29785671Meh, those Marine clips are from two of the biggest clippers. Not really relevant data
>SOMEBODY SAAAAAAAAVE MEEEEEEEEEEEEE>LET YOUR WARM HANDS BREAK RIGHT THROUGH>SOMEBODY SAAAAAAAAVE MEEEEEEEEEEEEE>I DON'T CARE HOW YOU DO IT>JUST SAVE, SAVE Will he have a "group cry, pt 2"?
>>29785753Oldest video was from almost 2 years ago
>>29785667>Saves a 2view>has a 6 figure cover song now with 100k+ subsYagoo I kneel
>>29785749???
>>29785710I would kneel so hard to Omega if they did that.
>>29785802Yeah, Luxiem didn't do as well as expected
>>29785635Not sure, I don't watch Enna other than being a "strong vocabulary" person, here's the graph either way, seems pretty normal.
>>29785422I'd guess she probably doesn't know Bahroo, but even if she did I think Gura pretends not to know things/people that she doesn't want to acknowledge.My personal rrat is that Gura has a chip on her shoulder about leeches from the old days. She's the frostiest HoloEN about the topic.
>>29785146Dude I think shorts are mega cringe too but they undeniably do numbers
>>29785802go alucard, go!
>>29785776That's 48 minutes - 3 hours VS 5 hours - 16 hours.
>>29785815YOU CAN FUCK OFF JANNIES
>>29785802>Group cry sessionYou cant make this up folks...
Yagoo will save a bunch of cute Koreans who failed idol auditions. I believe it
>>29785698how do you think she reached 4 million subs anon?gura is a clip monster even after all this time and as far as i know shes the only one that has dedicated clippers that translate her clips to jap korean chinese indo flip french german hebrew arabic and that african language some anon linked days ago
>>29785896
>>29785710>>29785818>Good good>I won't deep fry your chicken thighs this time
I have no fucking patience for coomers right now so fuck off
>>29785843She's growing stronger.>>29785694Is it time for your dilation?
>>29785868Yeah, but Marine clips are from "relevant" clippers and the others are literally whos, just try to do the same the next day Marine doesn't stream and a few hours after Pekora's stream
>>29785938I need this KR Akirose
>>29785958
>>29785938>Koreans>cuteThey are the fakest whore on this Earth. Koreans are the worst people and should be wiped from the Earth.
>>29785814Holostars
>>29785541>EN GOLD SO FAR FOR AUGUST1. Mumei (Hololive) - 14,137 (Getting Over It w/Fauna)>GOLD PER COMPANYHololive - 1Nijisanji - 0Others - 0>GOLD PER STREAMER1x: Mumei>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)Mumei: 5Shu: 3Axel: 1
>>29786046go to bed, ayame. it's 2AM.
>>29786046Not now Ayame
>>29786025
>>29786052Still Hololive
>>29786094
Enna will be the biggest liver within a year. Bigger than your whore mori
>>29785695So basically EOPs abandoned Pekora entirely?
>>29785938Yep hopefully. because their standard beauty in KR is a joke. I pity them that born with ordinary face.
>>29785977You still don't get it. Marine gets more clips in less time. "Relevant" clippers prefer Marine.That's why Pekora clipping scene is "dead"
>>29786181I don't get it. Is she an alcoholic?
>>29786046OJOU LET ME LICK YOUR PANTIES
>>29786225I saw Sushi clipping Pekora's Rust playthrough.
How many 30k+ streams has Enna had so far?
>>29786046Ayame please stream instead of shitpost.
>>29786183Basically yeah and without the eop pekora is reaching the vtuber ceiling in japan
>>29786155and this is why you are a homobeggar
>>29786183This is what happens when you play dragon quest. EOPs recoil in terror at the sight of a traditional jrpg and they won't come back
>>29786164
>>29785469NousagiTL became a vtuber, nekomikuri still clips but is a nijisanji employee. Basically sushi and his fellow30 second clip is killing the hololive clipping scene. His videos goes to the algo too much. Kicking those dedicated clippers out of the algo
>>29786304Why? It is not like Pekora changed her streaming styles or anything? Most of her streams can be enjoyed by understanding very little Japanese.
>>29786363for the micomet bros
>>29786229Yeah it sounds like Enna is an alcoholic now.
>>29786393My rrat is the bigger clip channels who dish out 30 second clips dominate the algo >>29786364
>>29786363The haaton face adds a funny and realistic detail to it
>>29785612That's what's funny about the whole Pomu-Kiara situation.It wasn't even Holo management blocking it in the end, but if they ACTUALLY were?Every holofan would just call them BASED without question.
>>29786364Sushi hate. OtakMori hate.
>>29786393Because Pekora has less memey or coomerbait content that clippers can milk.
>>29786155You either list them by agency (in which case it should say Anycolor for the Nijis) or group (in which case it should say Holostars for the lads)
Enna will have a 20k CCV at the end of the year and you holobronies will seethe. Screencap this.
>>29786229She might need to get that checked with her doctor, that doesn't sound right.
There was a mass Z across all stream
>>29786425
>>29786484But she has entertaining content to be clipped though? >coomerbaitI swear to god.
>>29786425too big
>>29784921Not really.If Mumei just ignores him, this will just blow over other than another -1 to NijiEN reputation.If she replies... well that's a can of worms.
>>29786534You think I'd waste hard drive space on you?
>>29786548Looks like a seismograph.
>>29786561
>>29783920I hope Versen can make it to this list someday
>>29786364NousagiTL is going to college>>29786393Her current rust is doing pretty good in the clipping scene but marine is just stronger due to clips and shorts plus her songs like ahoy and the new one>>29786484>>29786576>coomerbaitwish that were true since mel and choco would actually benifit from those but sadly its not
>>29786641
>>29786484Her daily streams have shit ton of people watching though, it's not like she needs to grow in sub? Just my thought of course, I have no idea if she wants sub or not.
So, does King's Koshien stream count for the 2nd? It's still going.
>>29786393Well, the war criminal pekora and the arrows hahaha are getting really old at this point. I've been bored of them for months,
I can't believe Pekora lost the race just like that. Gonna seppuku myself if I am a Japanese.
>>29785843no males on collab? surprising numbers if that's the case.did she get onto the algo or smth?
>>29786743no since it started on the 1st
>>29786725
>>29786659>I hope Versen can make it to this list somedayI can see such a scenario>BREAKING NEWS>GROUP OF DISAFFECTED SONY EMPLOYEES BARRICADE THEMSELVES INSIDE BUILDING AFTER SETTING FIRE TO THE DIGITAL MANAGEMENT WING, KILLING 15>THEY'RE SETTING UP A LIVE STREAM TO SHOW THE WORLD THEIR DEMANDSPeak CCV: 9973>sorry girls, 10k is for grown ups>should have picked a better date, Holocure new update just dropped and Botan is getting 25k with it
>>29786743>fuck it lost gold today can we count it for tomorrow
>>29784003ToT
>>29786393her war criminal persona in the clipping scene is stale at this point and her hero of the children one is absentthe new rust clips might boost her
Honestly, i just don't want Pekora to get cucked, yet again. But there is nothing that can be done about it. She lost 1 million, she lost her concert, she will lose 2m, not surprised if she'll lose stream time to Miko and who knows what else she's going to lose. She's streaming everyday for 30, 40, 50k people, she had 2 weeks preparation for her concert, but in the end it doesn't even matter. There will always be la funny shark or la horny pirate or something else. Hard work always pays out, but it will never put you on top. You always just 1 stupid meme away from losing. It doesn't really matter in the end, i'm glad i can watch her streams every day, i just wish she wasn't constantly losing because some people think that saying "a" is a comedy gold, or because some people can't control their libido and Marine dancing like a stripper gets 10 clips and millions of views. Nothing against Marine, she's my second favorite, i just really hate viewers, i guess. In the end, you can't really say that Marine, or Gura, or Miko are "winning". So it's just Pekora losing and nobody winning. And that sucks.
Fan poll by KFP giving some insight into the viewer gender divide. 20% of KFP are female. A fairly high ratio but the poll is likely bias towards more active members.https://twitter.com/KfpGame/status/1554154407348011010
>Another /vt/ meltdownMost influential thread did it again!
>>29786743Streams that start in a day count for the day they started
>>29786751She was doing the dodododondondon intro but no one buys it. People still likes Konpeko. What else can she do? Keiba watchalong?
>>29786796
>>29786845I'm not reading all that. Fuck off.
Dramafags finally got some fucking food, they were starving it seems.
>>29786845pain peko
>29786845nice pasta, did you make it yourself or did your mother give it to you?
>>29786845>download.jpgat least put in some more effort
After thinking about it for a bit, the only issue I have with the Ren tweet is that it’s blatant leeching. I would be laughing my ass off if Vox just tagged Gura out of nowhere and said “how’s it hanging babe?”
>>29784003I'm going to steal her hat.
>>29786845if only pekora did her dancing and singing reps while also upping her short repsshe'd actually overtake mori in getting 3m if she did that
>>29783981if Mumei doesn't ignore this, then she's incredibly tone-deaf. she's professional enough to know how to handle it, right?
>>29786576That requires them to actually watch her, don’t know if anyone is doing timestamps for her.
>>29786887anya cute!
>>29786879
>>29786743Anon, do you know how fucking pathetic you sound right now?
>>29786857Sample size too small and too biased if you have some 4% of "non binary"
>>29786778Not sure, I haven't seen any clips of her floating around, might be a Nijisanji thing. My personal guess is that tourists that came in to watch Iluna got tired of their game choices and went to watch the previous gens, and Enna just caught the funnel of it
>>29786964Kiara pulls in a fair amount of the crowd so it isn't that shocking desu
>>29786845Time for nousagis to commit mass seppuku to show allegiance.
>>29786959
>>29786861>Laying bait to lure all the schizos and shitpostersMost Influential Thread common success
>>29785612>>29786474The "Hololive is blocking collabs" rrat predates NijiEN existing as a branch, and got around enough that Tamaki explicitly addressed it on stream onceI'm pretty sure literally the only person to ever get nixed by Cover was Melody because she's literally a camgirl
>>29786845this doesn't really work as a copypasta since it's way too niche and will be outdated in a couple of months anyway.
>>29786941She browses /vt/, so 50/50
>>29784003Have this smol baseball Migo
>>29786548 (me)So, fuck you susan for ruining my smooth ass Patra' ASMR graph
>>29787018
>>29786845You pasted the same post yesterday at around the same time retard, and I answered you that >>29695658
>>29786928that would still be retarded since it would come out from nowhere and hed still be called a leecheven if vox tagged roboco it would still be retarded since it would come out of nowhereeven if for some reason gura tweeted at vox iit would still be retarded since it came out of nowhere
>>29786941She’s gonna ignore it. Addressing it will get people to hound her on why she’s ignoring Tempus.
>>29786872>What else can she do?Stop refusing the PekoMari sleepover collab.
>>29787034Tamaki addressed it because she herself used to collab with Hololive quite a bit, and his niji collabs didn't really slow down.JP collabs like Okayu-Shiina, SuiToko and Chocosen collabs were still happening regularly.It's just a lot more prevalent on the EN side, mostly because of PomuTori.
>>29786933without losing her performance in streaming. shorts could be solved by hiring a competent editor/clipper. it wont be shorts in the same way that marine does them but would probably give more traction.But yea, it all comes down to how much she wants to put on streaming..
>>29787109Dammit, forgot the image
>>29787112
>>29786842She really needs a new game. Or even better, a new arc/genre.>>29786933She did her mother fucking reps and improved a lot. The problem is her singing can never be attractive due to her Shirai Kuroko voice.
>>29786857Bias toward active members AND those who use Twitter which probably skews more toward non-male.
Ren Zotto is a tactical mastermind if she responds he gets what he wants and if she doesnt it shows that HoloEN is the one blocking communication between the groups.
>>29787157Please drop the collab block, Cover. I want some PomuTori kino. Holo management even stopped Pomu from playing Kiara's birthday message on stream.
>>29787174She should interact with some new people.
>>29787157>SuiTokoanon, it's tokomachi.
>>29787186>tactical mastermindDunning-Kruger effect
>>29787142if she doesn't ignore this, then she's going to catch flaks for ignoring tempus since you're replying to someone that's outside of your company yet not acknowledge people within
>>29787186just own up to it and admit your mistake, Noor
>>29787173
>>29787186Take some meds.
>>29787147Fuck you
>>29787235>holo managementhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLdoqxROjAQlol lmao even
>>29787186Nice backwards thinking, if she doesn't respond she's doing him a favor by saving him because it would be extremely eyebrow raising that she responds to him, but ignored Tempus completely.
>>29787307
this'll be my last chammers one, next will be my final migo one too
EN Vtubing as a whole was a mistake
>>29787239Like La+.
>>29787186No it doesn’t you schizo. Tempus and Illuna have already interacted plenty, and Mori has interacted with Vox on twitter.
this thread doesn't want to accept it but that pasta is 100% true
>>29787364This, but with Nijisanji.
>>29787186>it shows that HoloEN is the one blocking communication between the groups.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLdoqxROjAQ
>>29787362
>>29787186
>>29786548Yea, anyone trying to argue that the Z is bots and not just "dumb shit on youtube's end" is an idiot and needs to be shot into the sun. Just a thought.
>>29787335>>29787428Retard
>>29787034But that rat was the other way around, no? No one wants to collab or sponsor holos during the T-word Coco chinkout stint because they're afraid they would get targeted as well.
>>29787186That would have happened except for the fact that the marine clip is actually making rounds and it would be a retarded time for ren to think about it in that way
>>29787186Actual genius move. Either he forces Mumei to respond and all the unicorns seethe, or she doesn't respond and Hololive is outed as the reason for the collab bans, thus souring their image even worse than it already isThis is the reason why no one takes Hololive seriously anymore. They're stuck in the past while Nijisanji is carving the future of vtubing. Get out of the way if you don't want to get steamrolled, holokeks
>>29787395ikrOnly vtuber that can get numbers without coomerbaiting, GFE or ASMR.
>>29783874why the bra has no backstrap?
>>29785635Probably lack of overlap right now, but ever since the Vox/Selen/Fungus/Enna collab blew up (450k VOD views now which is the most viewed game VOD on Selen's channel), I think she inclined past the other girls in Ethyria.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDCRG-xZ0aEIt's not uncommon to see Enna get 3-4k on game streams and 5k on gimmicks, which are very good numbers for a NijiEN female. Arguably, the break helped her incline.
>>29787474Still bots.
>>29787335>>29787428This weird feud is an EN thing, Toko just meant the song was too spicy for her imageYou'd never see Suisei sing it either
>>29787474Z are on youtubes end everyone agrees with that except that retarded niji falseflaggerthe zhang mountains however are a different story
Oh brother
>>29787518pasties
Numberfags how is the new Niji gen doing compared to tempus? I'm bad at maths and reading charts or number.
>>29787367La+, Watame, literally any EN that actually picks up RUST. More than what she's doing currently at least.
>>29787601what happened?
>>29787518It’s a glue-on
>>29787514lol lmao evenhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLdoqxROjAQGod I love this clip since im already using it even outside of here to counter the holo blocking rrats
>>2978716718k is good.
>>29787633Horrible bait
>>29787601what happened this fucking time
>>29787663that's an everyday occurrence though.
>>29786845stop whinning
>>29787685yet another holoEN yab
>>29787307Cmon pekora this is the only way
>>29787615>I'm bad at maths and reading charts or number.Well, welcome aboard, you'll fit in well then
Wonder if this whole retarded thing will accelerate the rrats nest on releasing those damn audition vids
>>29787507That was an evolution of it, originally people Niji fans kept insisting the collabs dried up because hololive was just leeching and cut everyone off once they got more popularTamaki's explanation was that hololive members were just too busy with idol activities and it made scheduling a pain in the ass
>>29787167New to numbers but the z-peak is definitely not the real peak lmao. It looks like a bug which causes a spike in CCV and goes back to normal CCV. IMO the z should spike should be replaced with the normal peak.
>>29787615>Numberfags how is the new Niji gen doing compared to tempus?Here is a chart with just their averages. Here is the summary>Zotto is the only one not being outranked by every Tempus>No girl outranks any of the boys
>>29787630I dont understand what people are trying to post here. She can play Rust alone and still pull in a lot of people every stream, why does she need to grow sub by creating moment for clips?
>>29787615Depends on which metric you use. Subs? The new livers are winning, CCV? Difficult to discern now.
>>29787715That one especially stinks
>>29787784EOPs who only watch clips and don't watch streams will only inflate her sub amount, like Gura Mori and Marine. As far as I know none of them are even close to Pekora ' median from the past month or even the past year.
>>29787784because she needs the eops who like pushing the sub button if she wanted to reach 2m faster than marine
>>29787644It is. But the Z fucked up the chartLook at pic related. It's fucking smooth
Ok you want PekoMiko so much huh? Build a time machine and go back in time to make PekoMiko Christmas happen last year. And they made a Cover song together. That will show them. They will let Pekora get 3M subs by now.
>>29787802>CCV? Difficult to discern now.No it's not. Ren is clearly stronger than them. Magni and Vesper are stronger than the rest. The girls are weaker than the boysAll of these three things are very apparent right now
>>29787743
>>29787757Literally Magged and Chinned
>Gura duolingo vod got to 2.6>and 30k more toothis demon VOD will not relent lmao
>>29787878The debut buff is still in place for Tempus though. It seems that it lasts more time for holos.
>>29787731Anon I was hoping to get enlightened by number faggotry not more confused.>>29787757Thanks, this helps me put into perspective.>>29787802Any charts for CCV?
>>29787514>she doesn't respond and Hololive is outed as the reason for the collab bans, thus souring their image even worse than it already is>Actually thinking that was his plancope nijikek
>>29787950>It seems that it lasts more time for holos.>Source? I made it up.
Damn anon actually posted porn, and a good amount too, wonder why the jannies let it slideHeard there was a haaton janny, maybe he's throne online right now?
>>29787979>Any charts for CCV?>>29787757 should work.
>>29787514If he took a shit on stream, masturbated with it and then post images on twitter, you'd find a way to call it a genius move.
>>29788031Holy shit Magni has an average of 12k viewers per stream? I wasn't even sure what numbers I was looking at?
>>29787943Really blew up again this past week.
>>29787950>The debut buff is still in place for Tempus though.And it's not for the Nijis? They debuted AFTER tempus, don't forget
>>29787514The simplest explanation is usually correct anonAnd the simplest explanation here is he's retarded and joined one of the big two JP corpos while knowing nothing about the JP vtuber scene's etiquette or conventions
>>29788098>Holy shit Magni has an average of 12k viewers per stream?Yes but don't forget they're just 8 streams in, with the first being in the 40k range.
but like why do holos have to reply thothat's the part i don't get
>>29787943Imagine the numbers if she ever did a second duolingo stream..
>>29788137B-but the fomo 1 hour streams anon!
>>29788184Not sure he knows anything about vtubers besides that he gets to be an anime man.
>>29788203Thats pretty weird considering Iluna debuted to much bigger numbers but are now below them
>>29788029Nah, the haaton janny theory is because one of the guys that posts the most lewds is a haaton and around this hour (1-4h after JST midnight) there aren't barely any jannies, so most of the lewds stay there for a long time.The other day we had a retarded spamming the same bait literally each minute so I posted some Fubuki porn calling the jannies out and it stayed for almost 2 hours
>>29788203Oh right that's true. I think the other streams barely reached 10k or was below that so I was wondering how that was the case.
>>29787979>Anon I was hoping to get enlightened by number faggotry not more confused.The numbers you choose are the numbers that fit your narrative, well unless you're trying to be objective that is, then a slew of resources are abundant for you such as this >>29783924 and anons here have recorded historical data, such as what has already been presented to you, hope you enjoy your stay
>>29788098Mag is really entertaining, if he had a vagina he could probably be doing Gura numbers
>>29788258Nijisanji debuts gets massive followings on Twitter that never retain viewership. They are basically the peak form of tourist central
>>29788258Not that weird when you consider:-Magni hosted the first big collab on debut day-he's the most popular oneAlso jesas its barely been a week and they've all plateaued to 1-2k sub growth. The holofanbase really has no taste for males no matter how much you shill them huh.
>>29788311He wouldn't be entertaining if he had vag. Hashtag women things
>>29788022That's apparent by now though.>>29788137Who said it isn't? Also, Nijisanji has weaker debut buffs.All of this is just by looking at the CCVs sideby side.
I know we're in # but I genuinely dislike the soulless clips sushi shits out.And most of the good clippers started becoming lazy and only "clip" thr ENs, some of the big dedicated ones like osekkai turned their back on their oshis too.Biggest example here is haachama, once she stopped pandering to EOPs, once she stopped making her short shitpost videos that actually went viral among in the English scene more often than not, general clippers barely clip her anymore, her channel has pretty much halted in subs and thr channel itself doesn't get views unless she stream since she doesn't have anything that has any replay value as of late (vod views don't makeup most of the daily views for 90% of jps)
>>29788220The nijikek mindset demands any Holo bow down to any one of their livers. Its pure delusional cope.
>>29788203>Yes but don't forget they're just 8 streams in, with the first being in the 40k range.Ren 7 and his debut stream = 90K
>>29787615>I'm bad at maths and reading charts or number.Most of this thread can't read numbers and just shitpost so you'll be fine.Sub-wise, iLUMA is winning handily. Tempus is now around what iLUMA's subs were during their debuts. It's the advantage of having a much larger outreach.CCV-wise, iLUMA has been a disappointment. The numbers for 3/6 of them are really ugly already and 2 are starting to fall too. Only Ren is pulling in decent numbers and even he has looked vulnerable the past 2 days. Their ceiling is still higher than Tempus's, like Ren is going to get 20-30k for his karaokes and no one in Tempus can get those numbers.On the other hand, it seems like Tempus is exceeding expectations, with Magni and Vesper being able to compete with Ren and Regis and Axel beating the rest of iLUMA. The consistency in their numbers implies that they already have a solid fanbase that enjoy their content, regardless of the game.Music-wise, it's not close. iLUMA is blowing Tempus out of the water. Kinda expected from how NijiEN music numbers do for debut-release songs. tl;dr iLUMA fanbase is likely bigger, but much more casual and filled with tourists. Tempus's fanbase is smaller, but very dedicated and actually show up to streams.
>>29788373i hate sushi because he straight up edits out my oshi, like he skips over her lines, and no, i'm not telling you who it is
>>29788307agreed, we should stick to youtube subs as the only objective metric, live viewers and vod views are too subject to susan's mood swings
Pekora>can't sing>can't dance>can't ASMR properly>don't know how to coombait>can't think of a better intro>don't have 30k floor>can't get 2M subsimma off myself now to get in another world where Pekora can do all that
>>29788365I think it's more likely that Tempus is good while Iluna isn't.
>>29788373She's replaying uni 1st year please understand
>>29788413>Kinda expected from how NijiEN music numbers do for debut-release songs.running the songs as ads will do that, yeah.
>>29787950Pure cope. Iluna’s debuts had more than double as many viewers as Tempus, the fact that Tempus has had the better numbers post-debut is a dead giveaway that Tempus just straight up mogged them.
>>29788413>debut release songsThey are boosted by ads
>>29788441hey, she sounds like miko
>>29788430He does it with literally every Holomember retard.
>>29788475Not even talking about the song on the main channel.I'm talking about Ren's orisong and Maria's kamippoi cover.Anycolor doesn't run ads on songs on the liver's own channels. Ren's orisong already beat the group song that was ad-boosted.
>>29788373I've noticed Sushi threw the towel in and clips a fuckton of Gura despite her being an EN. Or "x talks about Gura" from JPs. Slave to the algo.
>>29787186I mean it’s not like his tweet has gained any traction outside /here/. I guess this guy doesn’t even know how twitter works.
>>29788413Honestly I have no clue how iluna's song is doing so well. It is easily the worst song to come out of any niji talent in a while
>>29788582I check his channel and the guy clip everything, not just Gura.
>>29788619>>29788541See >>29788581Ngl, I completely forgot iLUMA even had a song because it was so bad.
>>29788413>Their ceiling is still higher than Tempus's, like Ren is going to get 20-30k for his karaokes and no one in Tempus can get those numbers.Unironically you can't compete with niji in ceilings. They are tourist centrals and were Gura not such a monster Luxiem would mog all of EN in ceiling. Even a shitter like Sonny can get TEN FUCKING TIMES HIS NUMBERS FOR A MEASLY KARAOKE. I shudder to think how obscene their outfit reveal numbers will be.So ceiling wise Nijisanji as a whole kinda wins by default vs most of hololive.
>>29788582Those fucking view moneys is delicious and no one can resist it. You either die a hero yadda yadda
>>29788373But sushi's numbers are great because EN audience like to watch those clips.
>>29788582sushi clips anyone though?
>>29788184Imagine caring about "vtuber twitter etiquette." Aren't you guys always saying how Twitter doesn't matter? You do nothing but watch graphs and complain about Nijisanji because it's more relevant than Hololive at this point, and people are wising up to how toxic Hololive is and refusing to engage. Enjoy your graphs while you can, can't wait to see what new metric you use once Niji has better ccv
>>29787757How about ren today compared with tempus?
>>29788646I did not say he's clipping just Gura. Just that he didn't use to clip Gura (except during debut) but now does. He's pretty much THE JP clipper so seeing him spend time on Gura when she's already clipped by everyone is weird.
>>29788543At least Pekora is not a leech.
>>29788373They're just money chasers 2bh, but clippers aside I do agree that to a certain degree the EN and jp scenes are splitting back apart like they used to before the EOP boom, you barely find any English comments or anything like that in thr jp chat like you used to a year ago for example, which is why I really think that the ceiling for jp holos is around 2 million more or less unless they start pandering to EOPs again, and I don't see that happening any time soon
>>29788373I still think it’s funny how clippers clipped Mori’s “don’t ship me with the boys” but ignored the “don’t bother the other girls”.
>>29788714when niji has better ccv?
>>29783033Enna slipping on streamhttps://litter.catbox.moe/uflf8n.webm
>>29788714>can't wait to see what new metric you use once Niji has better ccvI can even see the shaking fists from here>YOU'LL SEE! YOU'LL EAT YOUR WORDS!!
29788714I've begun to recognize this guy's posts. How come we don't call him the "x schizo (name pending)" but instead pretend he's multiple Nijifans?
>>29788657I would agree with you there except for the fact that nijisanji has dead weights aka the nijien femalesThey would actually do better numbers and dominate the en scen if nijisanji dropped the females completely but sadly with the females they will always be second fiddle to holoen
>>29788582Speaking of "X talks about Gura": https://youtu.be/ca5ExgHAWbAKnown daily clipper, 15h ago, twice most viewed video by far in a lot of times (stopped searching after two months) Apparently it was a clip requested by some guy from hlgg
>>29788521Holocoep. Wave6 is ahead on subs. Got monetized day one. Higher debut peaks. Holols always have to qualify numbers to win anything. >muh avg>muh median>muh top35All these excuses to ignore the fact that Niji total viewers > Holo totalI rest my case
>>29788714>and people are wising up to how toxic Hololive is and refusing to engagehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLdoqxROjAQthank god for this clip since i wouldnt have to argue to retards outside here
>>29788794What's the problem? She's a nijinigger, they have the N word pass.
Short clip + click bait thumnail is the current meta. You can't deny it. Why even wasting your time make a long clip for less views?
>>29783920I FUCKING LOVE MIKO AHHHHHHH
>>29788778You can see that pretty clearly in this thread too. Once EN hours starts (in a few hours), no one will be talking about the JPs, and no one knows who nijiJPs are even. They only spam nijiEN and council is a failure baits.
>>29788657I think if we're going by "Luxiem is male Myth" comparisons, then I think they can get ~100k for their first outfits, kinda like how Myth did.I have no idea what timezone they'll do their reveal in tho, because it severely affects their numbers.At this rate tho, unless they start spitting out costumes, it's gonna be months because even Obsydia hasn't gotten their outfits yet and maybe by then Luxiem would've declined even more.
The quality of these shitpost is just sad.
>>29788817You didn't seem to agree with me at all. Nothing you said has anything to do with NijIEN's higher ceilings.
>>29788844you forgot to put 2k ccv there mates
what's with these baits at this time
>>29788839>spoilermakes sense, globalfags were salivating at that mention, but since they are mostly EOPs, they don't know.
hey can you guys do the funny bit where you call people leeches, i like that one
>>29788726>How about ren today compared with tempus?Here is iLUNA and Tempus for the streams starting on Aug 1st (JST)It is actually quite surprising, if you sent this 15 days to the past people would call you "untruthful and homosexual"
>>29788657>costumeswell you can blame the females for that since if they catered to luxiem first there would be a revoly in the female fanbases even though luxiem is more deserving
>>29788844>Monetized day oneYeah because of stream labs you disingenuous piece of trash. How is Kyo doing so far? Oh hes a 2k shitter now after debuting to 70k+ people? How about Aster, dude barely hit 3k with Apex. Aia? 1.8k. Dont make me laugh harder than I already am anon.
>>29788582Sushi pretty much clips anyone as long as he believes they'll get views, as you'd expect from a general clipper but it's just the fact that he just shits out clips that don't really mean anything, just holo X mentions holo Y or holo X reacting to something for 30 seconds... EtcJust like the other anon said, soulless... They just don't bring you any sort of substance
>>29788936If they want to maintain the illusion of being the EN branch it would have to be in NA primetime, but that's not really their best numbers time
>>29788994hologold >hologoldhologold>hologold
>>29788714I didn't say twitter etiquette, I'm talking vtubing in generalThe opinion on this is basically split between oldfags and purists saying>You don't drag roommate connections into vtubing, ever, periodAnd EN newfags saying>Who cares they're just streamers loland you're never going to get the two to agree
>>29787757Do you have one without the debut streams?
>>29788844>>29789001
>>29788883No one besides Hololive cares about things like this. It isn't proof of anything. What is proof is Mumei actively not responding to Ren because she's afraid of collabs, since she knows Cover won't let her collab with NijisanjiAnyway, you'll see tonight when Khyo/Falseeyed make YT videos tonight about the Ren situation. Comments will overwhelmingly be supporting Nijisanji and denouncing Hololive. People are tired of Cover's shit, and it's already reflected by NijiEN's inclineRemember Enna, the 1k streamer everyone shit on? She just got a 6k and a 5k stream back to back, more than Bae. Can't deny those numbers now, huh?
>>29788994>>29788995Sorry it is depressing time now I am not gonna make a funny bait or bite on one. Just let me mourn my lost.
>>29788969Their ceilings get dragged down by the females digusting floorsYou cant be on the top if you have a lower floor than the competition and since this is a group thing then all factors are to be accounted which is why i hate the female nijien fanbases for destroying the potential of luxiem
Damn long ass texts
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1485120701141233666https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1485120701141233666https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1485120701141233666
You did this to yourselves by goalposting metrics for your numberfag rabbit, don't be upset now
>>29788936Blame Nijien girls. They hold down luxiem success
>>29789173>Not Towa baby...
>>29789137>Their ceilings get dragged down by the females digusting floorsNot really. Like I said a 2-3k shitter like Sonny will spike up to 30k.
>>29789173>Not Towa babyBOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>29788373I'm no kson fan by any mean or anything like that, and I didn't even watch her back when she was cocoBut I can't lie the "cracks" are starting to appear in the "Bridge" that coco and haato built back in the day after she went away, and while haato COULD have been able to take her place to maintain it, she just doesn't have the time it seems... Which is very unfortunate
>>29789094im sorry for your lost anon
>>29789089>No one besides Hololive cares about things like this. It isn't proof of anything.lol on here maybe but it seems to be working on the hololive blocking collabs arguments outside here which is all that matters to me
>>29789173Go to sleep indog
>>29788778I mean part of the lack of EN messages in JP chats is EOPs switching to using simple Japanese in them. Many of the EOP tourists who stayed have simply assimilated. That however, does still mean there’s just not that many new EOP tourists coming in, just older fans.
>>29789173kind of a sussy post
>>29789173Stop making me wish this were true anon.
>>29789256Yup. Pretty much everyone is convinced it's Cover blocking collabs, even Hololive viewers. They'll wise up and start realizing how toxic their fandom is and drop them after that
>>29788413Tempus is also doing well in ccv because they haven't overlapped each other yetThe total iluna box is probably higher than Tempus. ACCELERATE has worked for Riku in gaining a big marketshare in the western market
I'm so happy for Marine hitting 2 million subs.
>>29789173I wonder how many people will fall for this outside of /here/ lmao
>>29789231which gets dragged down by the female shitters that have 3view floorsyou cant be selective when comparing branches because thats how deadweights like selen pomu or petra survives
>>29783920SILVER>1) 71,833: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien> PER COMPANY1x: Nijisanji> PER STREAMER1x: Silverboi
>>29789089You know what, if the sort of retards who watch dramatuber videos and buy their rrats stop watching hololive I'm more than okay with thatJust don't drag NijiJP down with you, I like Ars and Toko
Where are Kiara, Bae, Ollie and Anya when you need them? They are interacting less and less with the JPs.
>>29789342>Riku in gaining a big marketshare in the western market
>>29789089remember finana with 4 views?
>>29789331honestly they were but that marine clip actually turned the tide thank god for that clip since it also actually revived the whole aloe thing
>>29789001Should also note that Maria's Valorant, Aia's Iron Lung and Scarle's Closing Shift all peaked from a Z.Maria peaked at 3.3k, Aia peaked around 3.1k and Scarle peaked at 4.5k. So they're all technically doing worse than what graphs show
>>29789089>People are tired of Cover's shitWHAT SHIT THOwhy do they have to reply, why does no one answer this
>>29789231Can that be an indicator of him being more popular than, say, Mumei? Because while having higher floor Mumei cant pull that many people, or it is just culture of that particular fanbase and cant be used to accurately judge anything?
>>29788778We've just hit a situation where there is "enough" English content to keep EOPs fully saturated (most months, late June and July being all fucked up by the protracted off-collab hangover)
>>29789458Don't forget it was Nene who did it.
>>29789076I can provide that but wouldn't that reduce even more the sample size?Here it goes>pic relatedIt shuffles the list a little but the main conclusion remainsRen is the top ILUNA, the Tempus boys mass together of ILUNA
>>29789173Pretty good bait anon. If only...
>>29783920BRONZE>1) 41,478: Marine (Hololive) 2M celebration> PER COMPANY1x: Hololive> PER STREAMER1x: Marinedumb pirate don't know what a gold is. Ends up with bronzeAlso Top10 20K DORYAAAAAA
This Ren thing reminded me why i couldn't be cut out to be a corpo chuuba, i would just tell him to kill himself if some absolute rando tried to fish for my attention so blatantly.
>>29789516>Can that be an indicator of him being more popular than, say, Mumei?No you goddam nijinigger, it's indicative of tourism that nets you nothing.
>>29789517I still thinks ENs are twitch whores with anime skins though, except for Gura and Kiara surprisingly.
>>29789541>wouldn't that reduce even more the sample size?Yes, but the debut numbers aren't really useful
>>29789525the rrat is actually getting worse in terms of the aloe thing since its getting more and more mutated to the point that it has evolved into aloe got harassed by nijisanji because she decline their offer in certain esl groups which is funny
>>29789001If you showed me the schedules, I would've predicted 10k for Ren Genshin, and 5k for Vesper Zomboid and Magni Spore ep2. I know Shu was also streaming, but come on, NijiEN male + first time Genshin should be easy 10k.Even Regis with 2.7k isn't that bad considering he was playing fucking Zelda ep3.
>>29789541I wonder how bad the numbers if there no Z lol
>>29789173You got me there anon w
>>29789628Wait I actually saw that in one of the sea groups and it got a tone of discussion kek
>>29789517Which is why EN was and will always be a mistake
>>29789574If you were a HoloEN and were spiteful about leeches, the best way to show disdain is to completely ignore them and literally go "who?" when beggars bring them up in akasupas. aka the gura method
>>29789623In the long run it smooths out, as the chart shows. The average is more of a "big picture" thing, it is not a good enough metric for comparisons because lots of things can shift it up or down, like special events to one side, or SC reading to the other side
>>29789628Jesus why won't people learn Japanese?
>>29787186>t shows that HoloEN is the one blocking communication between the groups...okay? how would this be "bad" exactly?not like you faggots have left any reputation to lose with the hololive fanbase, considering the incessant shitposting and the shilling on their subreddit.People might actually call omega "based" if this was ever confirmed.
>>29789574my instinct is just reply with "X this *points to chest*" to everything, i also wouldn't cut it
Laughing at all the pussyfoot takes saying like “Well Tempus might be doing better at X but Iluna is doing better at Y, so you can’t necessarily declare a winner yet.”You guys are missing the point. Cover’s share of the male vtuber entertainment market just went from practically nothing to actually competitive overnight. Compared to that, what has Illuna done for Nijisanji? It’s not even a contest who won here.
>>29788714>Twitter doesn't matterRen matters... right? I can't tell if this is some new niji doublethink.
So is NijiEN management going to discipline Ren for this or will they just ignore it like they did with the discord leaks? They are incompetant and just let the inmates run the asylum.
Oh i see they start posting the compiled dox from that rratnet thingy in the catalog
Good night anons, don't bite the baits too much
>>29789748This honestly, the only ones who would be terribly upset by it after the constant shameless begging and shittalking about hololive would be unityfaggots at this point.
mikochi really broke your minds, huh
>>29789823Nothing actually, mumei will ghost him like Gura and it'll blow over. Mumei is second to Gura when it comes to interactions on twitter.
>>29789831>NijiEN yab>doxniggers in catalogLike fucking clockwork
>>29789831kek, I'll just stay out of it and monitor the archives for deleted posts. Last time something this salacious dropped or happened and this thread became a ghost town because site staff just chemo'd the place
>>29789718I think Gura genuinely does not know about NijiEN outside of the name. Like be honest with me, can YOU name all of NijiEN? Yeah...now imagine Gura trying.
>>29789831I was right that ENs are basically twitch whores.
>>29789831>yfw the dox inside the thread got deleted but the op didn't
>>29789918she's too strong
>>29789541how the fuck did his average INCREASE after REMOVING his 90k debut?
>>29789713I genuinely think the Nijifags in the old /jp/ vtuber threads would have an aneurysm if they saw the current NijiEN fanbaseIt's a million times worse than their boogeyman version of EOP holofags
more dead clips
>>29789823Yes. Why would they punish him? Did he actually break any rules? Just some unspoken etiquette stuff that none of the NijiEn fanbase really cares about.
>>29789823At best they gonna force him to delete it and try to memory hole it.
>>29789823Its nijisanjien anon. They give zero fucks since all they do is hire people who yab constantly. At this point you could call them Yabisanjien and everyone would agree with you.
>>29789737>In the long run it smooths out, as the chart shows.Yes, but right now with such a small sample of streams, a 40-90k debut stream would affect the average numbers by a lot. Aia was 4.4k average but we all know she's a 2-3k streamer
>>29789962For real?
>>29789598Yeah, but how come when a Hololive member get number bigger than their usual average then it is a holobox but for these guys it is tourists? In the end they are the same isnt it, depend on contents but the viewers/fans are always there.
>>29789831>rrats nestanon those stuff broke containment from there a long time ago to the point that its semi mainstream in the doxx communityI do hope its them though since the audition tapes were really spicy
>>29789983It dropped by 2k...
>>29789996Wait I've seen this post before.
>>29790023Nah, that anon was just shitting, they most likely deleted it themselves
>>29789997i miss ruchanno, i don't care about nonholos
>>29788413Reminder that Iluna's VOD views is equal to, if not better than Council as well. Their CCV is just low because their viewers live all over the world instead of gathering in one area or two. Even though their CCV might not look it, in the bigger picture when you take subs and vod views into account, Iluna has brought NijiEN to the same level as HoloEN (bar Gura) in EN market.
>>29789948The nijicope is strong
>>29789823It's not worth punishment obviously, but they might advise him against it in the futureThe shitposting on this board is blowing it out of proportion, it was a faux pas but hardly serious
>>29789831This particular dox image is so mainstream I've seen it on /v/ multiple times
>>29789983>how the fuck did his average INCREASE after REMOVING his 90k debut?Wut? If you mean Ren, it went from 11304 at >>29787757 to 9351 at >>29789541
>>29789962Someone did a self delete for the "haha only Mori dox gets deleted" meme
>>29790041funnels never happen with niji. the viewers of their high CCV streams just vanish into the night when they're done.
>meru monster hunter 9k midnight
>>29790185VAMP UP
>>29790041>but how come when a Hololive member get number bigger than their usual average then it is a holobox but for these guys it is tourists?A good example is salomeShe got a high number of tourists because she became viral and her meme namebut those tourist slowly left her in concerning numbers to the point that she's a 20k streamer now and even then it looks like she's still has some way to go down
>>29790019The best metric to show the general strength of a stream is the median for this exact reason. It shows what is the number whose half their streams will be above.
>29790126>EN market.
>>29790139I am talking about ALL the EN vtubers, niji, holo, and indies.
>>29790244NO FUCK YOU GET THAT ACCURSED MEME OUT OF MY HEAD!!!
>>29790126you must be joking.have you look ilama vod views?
>>29789823It genuinely looks like management doesn't control any single yab in NijiEN. I mean I don't think this one's a big one but they're fucking loose canons over there compared to holos or NijiJP
>>29789997>dead clipsanon you better delete that since its cursed that one actual died from the coof anon
>>29790041Holobox is the sum of the member's usual viewers. they move among members, you can predict with a 90% of accuracy (if you aren't retarded) how many people will watch a stream based on Holobox, comments and likes increase, they support everybody.Niji tourists literally appear out of the nowhere, sometimes they boost a random 1k shitter until 100k and other times they can't even boost a 3k streamer to 10k, they don't comment, don't like, don't interact, don't do anything, don't go to any other stream, etc.Nijitourists literally appear out of the no way,
>>29790185fooled me for a sec, however 5k is pretty good for her, she doing sunbreak? what master rank is she
>>29790041No one says that Mumei's karaoke numbers are all from the holobox, there are also karaoke tourists in there too.Holobox is shit like 3D lives where everyone is concentrated on one stream, or when people funnel to other holostreams when streams end.Even when a Mumei karaoke ends, there's funneling into other HoloEN streams.When a gigantic 30k NijiEN karaoke stream ends, there's barely any funnel and 90% of people don't show up the next day. At least Mumei keeps half of her karaoke viewers.
>>29790086It only gets more true every weekWe have people unironically arguing that roommate posting on main while working for one of the big two is okay
>>29790041>Yeah, but how come when a Hololive member get number bigger than their usual average then it is a holobox but for these guys it is tourists?It's simple.Here is the chart for Lamy EXACTLY after the end of Miko 100k live>it jumped up some 15k then more 5k after the end of the premiere*THIS* is the box. Compare and contrast with what happens when Salome 100k streams end, or when the big Koshien streams end.
>>29790340wait what?
>>29788365>Also, Nijisanji has weaker debut buffswell, technically you're not wrong. I feel like the Tempus guys could retain the same numbers a month from now and people will still cry "debut buff"
>>29790342 (me)idk what the fuck happened there, I had a stroke while I was writting the message or something
>>29789225>>29789242digits are too well known at this point kek
>>297839202nd time in a row Miko takes gold on the first of the month
>>29790395theres stories floating around that some of the clippers died from the coof and that one is one of those iirc
I don't want the box if the rabbit can't get 2m.
I've seen this come up a lot recently with Iluna/Tempus, the question of:>Shorter streams = less viewsor>Longer streams = less viewsI decided to compile 1.5 months of Kuzuha streams to see which was true, seems theres no real correlation between stream time and VOD views. For those who don't know, an R^2 value represents correlation between two values (basically). So the closer the R^2 value is to 1, the more correlated it is. Generally, you can say that something with a 0.85 R^2 value has moderate correlation with the values. The R^2 value shown with the sample (31) of Kuzuha streams gave 0.49 with extremely long streams, and with the outliers taken out, a measley 0.002 R^2 (See reply post). So at least with KING's streams, it doesn't matter at all how long/short the streams are. They don't influence VOD views. This comes from Tempus fans saying that short videos will give less views (because less watch time = less views), and Iluna fans saying long videos will cause less views (because less people watching the entire video = less views).
>>29790342>>29790440>Nijitourists literally appear out of the no way,H-Haachama!?>ahh the pepeloni, pepeloni. you know the pepeloni? the nooo one. i always, i always order the, the domino. domino pepeloni and without pepeloni. i always order the pepeloni and without pepeloni. pepeloni! i like pepeloni, yeah. i always, i always order the, the cheese- cheese pan. ahh how can i explain? i can explain by my drawing! i always order like the cheese pan that it has cheese on here, this part, the ear. ear of pizza. and then, i order- wh- when i order pepeloni, the ear- it always have a pepeloni on h- on a top, but i pick up these... away! cause i don't eat it. and then i eat the cheese pan pizza. okay? you understand? understandable! pepeloni! yes.
>>29790041Because we can see where they are going afterwards, every nijiviewer goes up in smoke when the event is over.
>>29790380Because it is. Literally everyone knows who the rms are, this isn't some secret knowledge. A quick search on YouTube or Google will even give you face pics and real names for most Vtubers. Keeping your Vtuber and rl identity apart is some weird corpo anime shit. They're just streamers with avatars, not your virtual waifu.
>>29790496Extreme stream lengths (8.3 hour long streams) removed
>>29790324Gods don't tell me it's another >Luxiem is 5 Mystas all over again.The only council member that may be comparable is Bae imo, and that's because she's being a dumb rat with her content. Also, first post-debut stream VODs are going to be high as people 'check it out' to see if the members are to their tastes or not, so I'm looking at the other streams moreso as an indication.
>>29790299eh, I couldnt care less. Just proves to me westerners are the worst when it comes to holding standards and etiquette in high regard. Its what we deserve in this post WW2/modern era though. Just so you know, everybody in america who wants to stream does it on twitch because they know they wont get anywhere on YouTube, especially if they dont have any content thats interesting on the YT channel. Still, its easier to be a 7 view on YT than twitch where you'll always sit at zero unless you get lucky. A little paradoxical I know but it is what it is.
>>29790126It hasn't been 10 days since their debut, retard
>>29790075>>29790175> just saw his position increasefuckin weird man, did Magni's debut really boost his avg THAT much?
>>29790041because salomes 100k tourist went up in smoke instead of raising other livers ccvs significantly Ibrahim (pbuh) warned them of this
>>29790547If I'd told myself 3 years ago "Niji fans don't gatekeep enough" I would have died laughing, and yet here we are
>>29790387Alright, to be fair some of those people probably were waiting for her to transition off of her loading screen too, but the point stands.
dont open if you're sensitive to Miko lewds
>>29790547Who is Marine rm byw
gura killer, xhey said.
>>29790472What is coof?
>>29790547>Keeping your Vtuber and rl identity apart is some weird corpo anime shitIf your a nijifag you must be new since that rule is especially important when it comes to your daisenpai Mito
>>29790349She just started Sunbreak, currently doing viewer participation.
>>29790651WHAT THE FUCK ANON
>>29790547kysno reallyoff yourself faggot
>>29790547nijitards are getting more stupid every day
>>29787757wait, regi has a higher average than axel? I'm also really surprised that their numbers are that high, actually. I thought both have put in some kind of weak performances.
>>29790496Anon, you're using one of the WORST examples in the whole industry, for two reasons.1) FPS doesn't follow the same pattern as the rest of the streams2) Kuzuha audience is absolutely different from the rest of the industry and more closely resembling the Luxiem one. Depending on his choice of content he will either get a massive audience (both on CCV and VOD) or they'll absolutely skip that stream, sinking both his CCV and his VOD.
this thread just ignores numbers and posts bait over and over again...
>>29790681It's a real fucking shame about his voice because he's honestly entertaining and actually knows what he wants from his content.
>>29790555(me)I should say its easier to hold literally 7 viewers on youtube than twitch.
>>29790691Some new world order shit together with Rushia's war and burning down food processing plants.
>>29790702nijibuddies don't know or respect mito. these are the same people that spent two days attacking sora after her 1m stream. no respect whatsoever.
>>29790275I was talking about Iluna, not Luxiem or Noctyx. So far, they have been streaming mostly during EN hours (NA / EU)
>>29790691covid
>>29790496How about a VOD views over CCV vs Time?
>>29790651Ho- Ho- HOT!!!
>>29790547Yikes
>>29790726we're talking about the dude who scheduled jp streams while being and EN and jrpgs while having 1 hour limits
>>29789996It's actually funny how boiling frogged we are that NijiEN can be literally everything /jp/ AND /vt/ doomposted about, and now we have people going "nah brah s'cool". This is a very weird thing for 4chan that clings to outdated seething hatreds for decades. Makes me thing /vt/ is just constantly bombarded with newfags.
>>29790742I posted numbers, but Magni decided to give me meds instead.
>>29790742this is what happens when niji loses. it also happens when they win.
>>29790620Ok, fair points from everyone here. So, with these funnels that means HoloEN for the significance part have the majority just Gura-exclusive fans? Since if she doesnt stream for any day the girls that stream those days most of the time guaranteed to have crap number? Unless real buff stuff of course, but my point still stands.
>>29790745if only his avatar not futa
Even at 3AM, there's still people posting like this as if it's still in JP hours
>>29790496I think Kuzuha isn't the best example because he is like Pekora/Gura/Kobo in the sense that all his VODs do well and his CCV is solid.Just from eye test, one hour streams do worse if there's no VOD growth, and in Tempus's case, there's very little growth after the streams end. With a 5-6 hr stream, you can drag yourself to 100k with just a 6k CCV. There's way too many factors at play to draw a conclusion either way tho, like the youtube algorithm can make something explode.Like everyone here was making fun of this Salome Google Play stream that peaked at only 16k and fell soon afterwards, but it has 402k VOD views in 2 days, which is fucking insane for a 1.5 hr stream that peaked at 16k.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8M88JPaXB0
>>29790823>Makes me thing /vt/ is just constantly bombarded with newfags.Because it is, it's focused on a niche but growing medium
>>29790838>Reposting stuff from literally this thread
>>29790496You actually did the math to prove a point everyone knows is wrong with a dumb outlier. Everyone knows longer streams yield more views, its a basic fact of view rate churn.
>>29790847ENsharts are not human. They are worse than Zhangs. They brought filth and corruption upon the land.
>>29790908
why are EN nijifans totally clueless about nijiJP?
>>29790742what else do you wants us to do, the day's over, tally's done, there's horny posting, summaries for july were posted already, there's just night owls streaming, what is there to talk about
>>29790830English please
>>29790496first of all, you are retarde because you are using ACCUMULATED VIEWS, a stream from 1 month ago will have more total views than something released today regardless of the time streamed or ccv
>>29790972Why are the NijiEN talents totally clueless about NijiJP?
>>29790745>voice debuff strikes againDo niji scouts not have ears or what? Or did he use a different voice for audition (like chimkin)?
>>29790823It is.This latest batch from twitter trannies that this latest wave are probably the worst, tied with the fujoshits that came along in Feb/March when luxiem started getting big in SEA/China.
>>29790588he removed two streams; debut and the 28k post debut (I assume) after that Mag's streams have ranged from 14k to 5.3k at the lowest, with the median probably being about 6-7k
>>29790972To be fair holoEN fans are mostly clueless about holoJPs too. They only know JP's name but don't know what their stream contents are,
>>29790548I'll propose the same experiment them, but to test directly what people warned you about.Pic streams of similar CCV from multiple streamers but with different lengths and make the same plot, VOD views / time streamed.You'll see what people are telling you about
>>29790830anon english reps i cant make heads or tails of your question
>>29791017No that is legitimately how he talks. It's not a fake voice.
>>29790972you think they want to learn about 100+ more livers when they already have to deal with 26 with more on the way
EU hours are unquestionably, unequivocally, and utterly shit.
>>29790928You can scream ENSharts, euroscum, all it does is make you reek of the shit you spew.
>>29790637Not ashamed to admit I'm a new fan. Everyone was new at one point. Gatekeeping is why Hololive will keep losing ground to Nijisanji. To increase your viewerbase you need to tap into new fanbases to replace the old fans who fade away or get bored. It's funny how Nijisanji understands this so clearly and yet Hololive doesn't. At this rate it's only a matter of time until NijiEN breaks into the mainstream while HoloEN keeps competing for the dwindling scraps of the ironic weeb community.
>>29790972NijiJP is incredibly EOP unfriendly and the first ''waves" were betting on grabbing holofans and people who didn't like hololive
Why can't nijifags just admit that HoloEN brought most of the new viewers into liking vtubers globally and not nijiEN?
>>29791049proof next thread?
>>29791015Because all of them are Hololive rejects, I bet they know everything about HoloEN but haven't seen any NijiJP stream in their entire life
>>29790947
>>29791049compared to nijien fans? its fucking night and day
>>29791007second, the way YouTube works to give views GUARANTEES more the longer you stream, that's why games like Apex yield so much views
>>29791098Go back
>>29791102What's Aqua's niche?
>>29791025Fuck me, what horrors Niji has unleashed on this fandom in just 6 months. ACCELERATE isn't a threat to the company, its a threat to vtubing itself. Yagoo needs to pump out some more EN holos because EN vtubing needs some panacea.
>>29790917>Go to a bait thread, >Take bait pic originate from /number/ >Repost that shit to /number/My fucking side!
>>29791121
>>29790972The foundation of the NijiEN fanbase isn't NijiJP, because they were almost impenetrable to EOPs and their fans on /jp/ gatekept hardThey're HoloEN viewers who fancied themselves too cool to watch CGDCT/idol content, mixed in with a bunch of insane yume/fujo fans
>>29791175being a hot retard
>>29790637The funny thing is that they did both, they gatekept the english fans and then let the ones who should have been getekept in when they started to appeal to the english fans.
>>29791049That's already more than average NijiEN fan.
>>29791092Nah, those SEA and burger trannies now have shifting schedules when shitting on this thread, the shit doesn't stop anymore anon
>>29791049>To be fair holoEN fans are mostly clueless about holoJPs too.No they're not. Sure they can't ever truly understand them 100% but most have a pretty big familiarity with the basics of pretty much every JP.
>>29791098your little scenario is already happening "new fan"it's just niji who is competing for scraps every new wave
Wait, the previous post by ren prior to @ing mumei was like by mumei's other account?? Fucking kek
>>29791098You couldnt make it any more obvious.
>>29791098Imagine thinking it's the ones who demand respect for autistic JP scene traditions and cry over idol graduations that are the "ironic" weebs
>>29791253The newer fan are very clueless about HoloJP, not to the point of NijiEN but still very clueless.
>>29791015quick! someone post the tweet!>Kuzuha who
>>29791278Guy takes a private show of personal support as an invitation to try to collab with her actual professional identityMoron
>>29791103Unfortunately, they're incredibly bitter of HoloEN. Myth is already at giving no fuck status, and yet there's people comparing iluna/noctyx/luxiem to them. It's like comparing billie ellish's numbers to rihanna/beyonce/madonna.
>>29790780Higher correlation, but not anything close to 0.85>>29791007That's the point, a video 2 months old is stagnant in views, friendchama>>29791053I would happily do that, but its time consuming. If you wanna help, can you list all the VOD views for Tempus/Iluna in this format:Magni:Stream 1: 123123125Stream 2: 12351521Stream 3: 355236236Scarle:Stream 1: 1235135etc,I'll do the rest
>>29791333What newer fans? I though HoloEN was reclining blah blah. Who are these new fans? They haven't had a generation in a year now.
>>29790972Silly anecdote, but at AniRevo (Canadian con this weekend) I found tons of HoloEN, lots of HoloJP, and decent amounts of NijiEN (mostly Luxiem, select Noctyx, then just Selen, Pomu, Feesh and one Elira).NijiJP? A single Toko sticker.
>>29791387who?
>>29791379
>>29791378Sounds like he is a RM yab waiting to happen either because of retardation or personal feelings regarding the lines between RM and chuubas
>>29790819yeah, that makes sense. I just had a perception of regi as the clear runt for some reason.
>>29791406Also, if you do wanna help by listing the vod views, maybe tell me in advance so I can work on the data for them ahead of time
Susan slashed Enna's bot
>>29791437
>>29791085I guess his numbers will be a test whether content & personality can overcome voice debuff. Keep us updated in 2 months
>>29791474he is TOO old unironically.and not in the good sense. while vesper is a old boomer, ren is an old manchild.
>>29791474It's hilarious, we were shitposting about how all the other Iluna members would be a disaster for Niji but the boring isekai clone was the real Yab all along
>>29791528Jesas that's a steep plunging Z
>>29791528what the fuck?
>>29791528they will come back.. right?
>>29791597>niji>getting them backlollmao
>>29790496>for kuzuhabecause his views are highly dependent on if hes doing some kind of event, collab, eceleb shit, etc. But if he streams LOL for one hour he'll get less views than if he streams LOL for 12 hours.
>>29791528>your incline...ends here>pajeet, turn on the bot inhibitors
>>29791528SC reading at coincident timing?
>>29791537
>>29791579That’s not a Z, that’s straight up deletion
>>29791175being a retard thats good with fpswhat was azumas niche?
I love how this entire thread is just a coping mechanism for 30+ year old number autists to claim Hololive is more relevant than NijisanjiYou will never have another Gura :)
>>29791659
>>29791657Nope, she's playing the game
>>29791175Being a cute retard that strives to be an idol
>>29791631sorry but who is kuzuha?
>>29791680It looks like it has Zeta-characteristics to me, it has the tell-tale rise and then super-smooth plummet, followed by a return to a lower plateauThe new low is just extremely unusually lower than the previous mean
i laugh if all this shitposting leads to someone getting grimmie'dhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christina_Grimmie
>>29791657she still has the game up so no idea if shes moved fully onto supers
>>29791528uh oh....
Can we go one day without a suspicious looking nijiEN graph?
>>29791772she moved to supas a little before the dropstill weird>ren's sleeve tnak you for the supayeah her little incline seems to be from the boys viewers that like this content. Shu got 12k on this game.
>>29791742sorry, meant kazooha
>>29791726Anon this thread literally makes fun of the EN scene for being small potatoes all the time. The EN chart used to be referred to as the cripple tallyJP numbers have been Hololive slowly but steadily consuming the top 20 for years now
>>29786941It would be weird for her to respond to male from NijiEN while ignoring TEMPUS existence
>>29791528is it a new cull going live? was anyone else streaming at the same time?
>>29791770Gods please no.
>>29789823i mean they literally ignored Luca playing copyrighted songs of their direct competitor without permission.They'll sweep this under the rug too.
>>29791726Who is that? Never see her on getting gold here.
With the latest amount of nijicopes, a compilation can be done for Nijicope list 2022 edition.
>>29791528but my NATURAL INCLINE can't be a lie, right nijisisters?
>>29791742You say this as a joke because of the bait posted earlier about Kazuha (the Genshin character) but I remember some Vox fujo 2 or 3 months ago that replied to one of Vox's tweets with that
>>29791766>Zeta-characteristicsWho the fuck calls a Z a zeta, especially given there's a Zeta in holo ID
>>29791894literal black company behavior.
Rent fucking free, holokeks
>>29789831this is the same shit that came out during the /b/omu incident, I see nothing new there.
>>29788839>Afternoon in japanShe was waiting for one of those early morning recordings she hates so much...Last time she said she didn't want to have morning voice so she pulled an all nighter
>>29791770Hoestly with how new nijien fans are against hiding their vtubers rm Mito would unironically be the first one if they do adopt that rm is no secret policy seeing as how she has the most insane antis
>>29791918H-hot
>>29791770Who's the most likely to get Grimmied? I can see Gura or Mumei.
>>29791098I swear I've read this exact same wording with Holo-Niji switched. The timeloops have turned me insane holy shit.>>29791320I stopped being ironic when I became a haaton.
>>29791935Some "Best of 2022 Hits" or what?
>>29790691ccvid
>>29791726>Guraliterally who? never saw her on the tally
>>29791964Yeah, good point. I don't know why I wrote that. All this talk of Zs always makes me think of Zeta Gundam.
>"This will be the end of Hololive", says increasingly nervous tranny for the seventh time this year
>>29791847>Shu got 12k on this game.fujos taste are so fucking weird.
Uhh they not coming back.
>>29791726We literally just had Kobo you tard
>>29791742Kuzuha is a wash-up vtuber under Nijisanji who kneels and listens to papa China.Old nijifans like to bring him up in this thread to reminiscence their past glory. Just like how they brought up the "nijisanji already did everything in minecraft" cope.
>>29791877No, only affected her
>>29791406I can give you that data, it's pretty easy to getthe fast way gives me the duration with "dates" like this: {'actualStartTime': '2022-07-07T03:01:01Z', 'actualEndTime': '2022-07-07T04:51:54Z'
>>29792077They really made an article for that? Truly shameless
>>29791098Not ashamed to admit I'm a new fan. Everyone was new at one point.Gatekeeping is why Nijisanji will keep losing ground to Hololive. To increase your viewerbase you need to tap into new fanbases to replace the old fans who fade away or get bored. It's funny how Hololive understands this so clearly and yet Nijisanji doesn't. At this rate it's only a matter of time until HoloJP breaks into the mainstream while NijiJP keeps competing for the dwindling scraps of the ironic weeb community.Huh, it actually sounds like something Holofans from 2019-2020 might say.
>>29792018>anon forgetting about mito and her dedicated stalkers
>>29791877She's the only NijiEN at the timePreviously, there was a mass Z happening >>29786548, a lot of Holos and Nijis got it, but Enna was spared
>>29791726hololive doesn't need another Gurathey just need to not add more Aia or Kyo
>>29792077I mean. you can't be wrong all the time.
>>29785541>>29786073Continuing her job as Gura's backup
>>29791474he’s literally an old man (30+ years) who still behaves like a teenager, and just like modern blink-182, it’s embarrassingI’m being serious
>>29791406or if you prefer, like this:'duration': 'PT1H39M45S'
>>29791973Because they have nothing new.
>>29791244The problem with Gatekeeping is twofold.1. Fans reflect the streamers.2. Fans have no way to Gatekeep what streamers get into the company.A fanbase that wants to gatekeep will lose out if the hobby heads do not want to.This also usually results in Exodus of old fans (happened to NijiJP and to a lesser extent NijiEN) and replacing them with normalfags who have zero stake in the hobby and are simple locusts moving towards the next medium of entertainment to "consume".
>>29785802>group cry sessionis he fucking stupid?
>>29791973>>29792262its niggas trying to fish for the audition vids even though theres a no containment breach rule applied which means we wont be seeing those for a while
>>29785541Bless Fauna for joining.
>>29791528>>29791528Doesn’t necessarily mean anything on its own but it’s weird as fuck. I was going to say it seems similar to Scarle’s debut thing but that had no clear Z and I don’t know if a network issue was involved here so calling the two similar is one hell of a stretch. Should keep on the lookout for this behavior though, I don’t think Hololive has ever experienced this kind of graph right?
>>29792238Next you are going to tell me that he is one of those who uploads yt videos with unironic gaping mouth thumbnails
>>29790702I honestly think more Holofans know about Mito's history than these new retards.Even back in /jp/ Holofans were treated like invaders, but for the most part respected the culture (until EN of course).
>>29786857>nonbinarykek, how many of that 20% is actually male?
>>29792253'PT1H39M45S' refering to...? Also I ended up just going onto their videos list and going with 3 sigfigs because lmao. Also only their top+lowest performer. As I approach this problem, it's evident we need to have a similar CCV streamer who is new as a control. If it's only true for Iluna/Tempus and not for KING, then it isn't really "true" is it? Any good examples of similar streamers to Tempus/Iluna? Doesn't need to be vtubers.
>>29791528Jesus Christ. When will Nijifans learn to not tempt watamage with their shitposting? Shitpost with a talent you want to graduate or something.
>>29786155Just do what the gaijin tally does"holostars" in the entries >>29784430"holopro" for the company total >>29784499
>>29792171There was actually very little numberfagging back then, and no real rivalry between the fanbases besides Nijifags telling EOPs to fuck off or making fun of people for liking idols (on a board where 20% of the threads were about actual idols)