/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

anons whats a good laptop for vtubing?

What does the p stand for?
Aspiring Startup Projects?

I will watch your stream from start to finish and provide you with honest feedback.

Pinky promise.

>>2964851
/asp/ergers

>>2964238
What's your budget? What are you planning to stream? Laptops tend to have a ton of annoying heating issues, you're probably better off getting a prebuilt in that range.

>>2965012
nta but I don't have a secure housing situation (i.e. I'm always moving around) so big bulky CPUs are a no go for me. I would also like some suggestions for good VTubing laptops

>>2964989
Have you done that in other threads already?

>>2965159
yes

>>2965140
Same goes then, what kind of content are you looking to put out and what budget?

>>2965476
I think you gave pretty good advice to the ones who asked then. Was good constructive criticism. If you're the anon I'm thinking of.

>>2965476
I'm planning to do mostly Pokemon games pre-3DS, with some old emulated old Nintendo games, mainly GameCube. Of course, I do plan to throw in a PC game I like or might be popular every now and again. For budget, I'd prefer something around the 1k range but if the build is good I might throw in a couple of thousand more.
(Also, I do some game programming on the side so if it could also run Unity good that would be a huge plus)

How does cali manage to do so much shit? I'm working a full time job with volunteering and taking a few classes so it's hard to find time to do my streams. I wish we didnt have to sleep

>>2965745
at the risk of triggering some anons, it's smart hustle work ethic. you focus your time on the shit that matters and not on the shit that don't matter.

>>2965624
Might have been me, might have been some other anon, I've only started doing this recently but I try to keep a little list of stuff that I feel stands out as I'm watching.

>>2965722
Emulated stuff shouldn't require anything too beastly. When you say 1K, you mean USD? And which region, USA?

I like to animate drawings / rig models. is that something worth streaming? it's generally a very boring process but I'm quite passionate about it.

>>2967499
I think if you're giving tips / teaching the rigging part that would be really useful. When you're not explaining stuff you should probably just be chatting and interacting. Dead air is really bad.

>>2966958
I meant 1k USD. Is the region super important besides the keyboard? I'm living in Europe so having a compatible charger would be nice, but I type mostly in English so I'd need an English keyboard. I guess I'd need European shipping too.

>>2967499
yes. but realize it's a zatsudan. people already do it and there's good demand for comfy art streams.

>>2967527
I'm very talkative and I never really shut up, I guess It would be like chatting streams except there's animation in the background too.

Phoenix Wright characters would make pretty good vtuber models now that I think about it.

>>2967499

Art streams are very popular with certain viewers, just keep in mind that your workflow will tank if you aren't careful. I've seen art streamers that completely stop working on their projects without noticing it and go full zatsudan

HEY EVERYONE it's your local magical girl
Can I get feedback on a recent singing stream?

btw anon, I tried boosting the input on the mic like you suggested

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHQs0b_8dLU

>>2967849
skipped around a bit. looks good. keep doing your reps and advertise yourself.

>>2963994
What do I have to buy to get started as a pngtuber

>>2968579

>commission or draw art of your own model, make it background-less PNG
>add it as an image source in your OBS, stick that sucker in a corner

If you want to spice it up, make it a reactive image:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1v4tHSdSBGk

>>2964989
I'll be going live in three hours if you're gonna be around then; I'd appreciate some advice
Have you posted around /wvt/?

>>2968579
OBS is free

I'm thinking of having a cute model and then "accidentally" doing a face reveal that shows the model is just me but with make up on. Is that a good idea?

>>2969381
Absolutely not. If you want to be a face cam stream do that. Alot of people hate the face reveal shit. You're a virtual tuber. We're not supposed to know what you actually look like. Atleast the reception on this board is very bad for that kind of stuff.

>>2969558
but what if I'm really cute irl?

>>2969821
then don't become a VTuber. Just become a regular girl streamer. Pretty sure that shit's more popular than VTubing anyways. You can even make the shift to twitch thot if you're really desperate for money and fame

>>2969908
but I like anime, plus putting on makeup for every stream is annoying

Is there a place where I can download a decent 3D model just to mess around with and test out? I'd use vroid, but those avatars are really lacking if you don't know how to work the editing well

I'm thinking of rigging up a photograph of gigachad. When I hit a subscriber milestone, I'll do a big face reveal stream and switch to that model instead of revealing my face. Is this hilarious Yes/Very Yes

>>2970208
Then why ask for advice. If you're not going to really listen then just do it. See what happens I wish you luck honestly.
On the other hand you could do what some people do and just have your avatar be you as an anime character. I guess it's more of q youtuber thing though and not a love streaming thing. do hybrid streams. Some vtuber. But some not. Maybe you really are cute enough. Good luck.

>>2970522
are you ok anon? I was just being teasing but you seem to have a chip on your shoulder.

>>2970208
do the face reveal. actually do it in the same post you reveal your vtuber design the first time. selfie and png. everyone will love you

>>2971244
okay!

>>2971244

>>2967546
It's important because of prices and deals around the world right now. The keyboard stickers/print themselves don't matter since you can change your keyboard layout in your OS. That said, I have heard relatively good things about

>https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lenovo-Legion-Gaming-GeForce-Windows/dp/B08BLJ8VJ4?pd_rd_w=vMEtO

Good ports, good temperature control, overall okay GPU and it's on sale right now. Note that it's UK only so you may have to pay some Brexit related import fees.

For USA, I'm seeing this thingy

>https://www.bestbuy.com/site/msi-gf65-15-6-144hz-gaming-laptop-intel-core-i5-nvidia-geforce-rtx3060-512gb-ssd-8gb-memory-black/6448272.p?skuId=6448272

on sale. I've read iffy things about its default CPU temp hitting 90, plus it's a low wattage RTX, but it's only 1k.


As a budget option (US),

>https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08C81JT39

might also be okay.

>>2968730
I haven't posted around on /wsg/. I'll be around for the stream though.

>>2967849
Boosting the mic was a good idea, you're easier to understand now. I skipped around a bit - your singing is good so yeah, like >>2967897 said, do your reps and keep it up.

>>2969381
Not really the best of ideas here and now. If being a chuba becomes super popular and you're conventionally attractive, I suppose it wouldn't hurt you, but if you're alright with showing yourself on cam, you might as well just do cam streams and keep a few cutesy decals of yourself for bad hair day streams. Plus you'll probably make way more money that way.

>>2964989
http://twitch.tv/elliottambers
I'll be going live in a minute or two if you're able to give some feedback!

>>2972255
thanks anon. You're a real stand up guy. Didn't think you'd respond. I've checked on all of these and it seems I can't buy any of them because they're either sold out or don't deliver to my country, so I'll just have to look for stuff on my own. Any specific things I should be on the lookout for?

>>2972462
The character seems extremely stiff, feels like nothing would be lost if the avatar was removed

>>2973407
isn't that the case for like 90% of male chuubas?

>>2973407
get tae feck out

>>2973470
Well, you're not wrong
Although, I think GreatMoonAroma is a pretty good example of a male vtuber who has both a dynamic personality and avatar, which seem to be what helped him skyrocket in popularity

>>2973729
Doesn't he use a 3D VR model?

>>2973855
>>2973729
https://youtu.be/ytWcS3XhPRY?t=35
i looked him up and it just seems liked 3D and his entire shtick is just "overexaggerated reaction face-cam streamer" but 3D

Should I just start following a bunch of V-tubers wherever I see them pop up on Twitter to start getting follows for follows and all that?

>>2973855
Oh he does, my bad, seems like his later model has a 2d effect going for it so i misremembered
>>2973892
I never said I liked his content, but yeah that seems to be his main thing, but atleast there's a personality to the avatar is what I wanted to get at, separates him from most streamers yknow? Even if it is a bit obnoxious. That being said his kind of humor is quite popular in korea, so it might also be what he genuinely thinks is funny

>>2973975
the only real takeaway i'm getting is that live2d is garbo and people really need to do 3D stuff like Fofamit's children have to actually get any big audience

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/989516597?t=1h51m32s

>>2974018
Thank you for your views, tourist-kun, enjoy your stay.

>>2974162
would love to know which male chuuba using Live2D is making it with a buff specifically from their models.

>>2967578
>>2967711
What's zatsudan?

>>2974345
"just chatting" stream

>>2974018
Well from my experience, seems like the best Live2D Vtubers don't hold a candle to the best 3D Vtubers, but that's usually due to the effort being put into the latter alongside all the liberties it offers. Still Live2D does have it's merits, as stylized avatars really do stand out no matter where you place them, and it's an easy entryway as you don't need a particularly beefy pc to get a 2d avatar going.

>>2974446
>Still Live2D does have it's merits
I'm not really seeing any other than vtuber bandwagon chasing. i haven't seen a single male vtuber model that uses Live2D where the avatar is actually adding value to the stream that can't just be done with a png placeholder.

at least with 3D, you can do overly exaggerated expressions like that GreatMoonAroma and Pren above, since you know, that's actually where you're getting the streamer's reactions (exaggerated or not). but if you can't get to that level of expressiveness, why drop $2k for a model that just blinks and wiggles a bit.

>>2974595
Well I would consider it like this
>shittiest Live2D Vtuber is better than the shittiest 3D Vtuber
>average Live2D Vtuber is as decent as an average 3D Vtuber
>best Live2D Vtuber is worse than the best 3D Vtuber
Both Pren and GreatMoonAroma are great, and watching Pren is almost mesmerising with how awesome her avatar is.
But in regards to 3D, that requires alot of effort and/or money to get to that level of quality, and stylized avatars like Pikamee just wouldn't look good in the medium. That being said, I agree with you on the bandwagoning, and it's probably Live2D's biggest fault. I think Live2D has alot of potential especially if people get into actually playing a character (which can also be done in 3D but i digress), but right now it is as you say, no different than a png placeholder

turns out Great Moon Aroma was also done by Fofamit.

>>2965745
Anonchama.. the Hologirls sleep 2-3 hours per average

>>2975416
>>2974595
>>2974446
>>2974902
How often are 3D Vtubers associated with VRChat? I know that if you have a 3D avatar you can import them in the game. Do you know any besides Moon and VShoujo that do so?

>>2972462
Gotta go so here's what I've got so far.

Earlier on there was that thing with the game audio being too loud, but you solved it quickly so that's great, keep an eye out on it in the future.

You're understandable just fine, but I had to turn my volume up (which isn't that bad considering I'm deaf as a doorpost). However, your laughter sounded noticeably louder, so it might just be a mic pickup issue. You have a very cute laugh, so laugh more.

No issues with dead air either, you always have something to say so keep that up. A purely personal comment here: If I were you, I'd also try to direct some stuff at chat, try to have them engage, ask them stuff about the game, similar things they might have played and failing that, just random ass questions that you can think of. After that raid, a lot of people stuck around, but nobody was pretty much saying anything for a solid few minutes. I think engaging with your chat (not certain individuals - that can backfire - but chat as a whole) can make a stream feel a lot more lively.

>>2972489
if you can tell me the country, I can look around to see if there's any specific deals in your area. Otherwise for laptops, I'd generally lurk through reviews, both professional and customer. Obviously, the first thing is specs - nowadays, don't dip below 8gb ram if you're going to be using it for any kind of work, everything commercial is a resource hog these days. Compare the GPU on benchmark sites and spec sites for games you want to play. I'm not too good on CPUs nowadays so you might want to look that up in the reviews but generally decent processors get paired with decent graphics, although that's not always the case.

Next up, check heating issues and build quality (latter matters less if you don't move it around, but still worth looking at as a general indicator). Look for people talking about the external ports, since those are usually the first things that die on your average laptop. If you're doing any visual work, look at color accuracy and screen quality/angles. Last but not least, if you're gonna be using it as an actual portable laptop as well as a desktop replacement, check battery life and OEM battery availability.

>>2977023
>How often are 3D Vtubers associated with VRChat?
almost never. like, the knowledge of "i can import this into VRChat" exists, but i've never seen anyone actually give a shit about it. that being said, almost none of the 3D vtubers actually do VRChat because it's so resource heavy on top of streaming + whatever game they've got. they either use Luppet or VSeeFace to just capture their model.

Do you know any besides Moon and VShoujo that do so?
not particularly, the overwhelming majority of 3D vtubers just use the default VRoid Studio avatar and are all irrelevant as streamers.

so... from all this chatter about live2d this, 3D that... Im thinking of just going pngtuber route with hotkeys to switch emotions. the "anyone tuber" app costs like $3 usd after conversion and has space for 4 emotions (default plus hotkeys for up to 3 more). bet I can get a cheap ass vtuber "model" by just commissioning emotes instead.

>>2977106
thank you for the feedback, I really appreciate it! I'll keep the chatting advice in mind as well.
>>2977571
yeah that's absolutely a valid approach; Little_S_ is a good examble of a pngtuber that is a png that switches through emotions; i've heard he uses a foot pedal to swap seamlessly but someone more familiar can confirm that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWpha4LEwT4

>>2977115
I think anyone with a 3D model should try to be more expressive with it.

>they never even looked at my application video

>>2980297
upload it here anon

>>2980351
it's the same fag who constantly posts
>0 views
every time and doesn't respond

Whoever remakes the next OP, change 'shill responsibility' to 'shill responsibly' pls

>>2980048
I've got both a Live2D and 3D model, I've been doing short dances and videos with the 3D whenever I get the chance. There's definitely a lot of things you can do with a 3D model.

what is everyone's opinion on ESL vtubers? I have a very thick eastern european accent but since kiara has a fascist accent and ina has a chinese accent, it shouldnt be too much of a bother right?

>>2980682
No no, there's two of us that do that. I'm the one that DOES respond.

>>2980351
I won't. I used the character model I'm currently vtubing under but with a totally different voice and behavior. I know I'm literally the only single autistic weirdo that gives even the most remote fuck about lore, but I refuse to upload a video of me breaking character.

>>2980803
what are you talking about, anon?
are you worried about the ESL part or the accent part?

>>2980803
i think a lot of people even prefer a bit of accent

>>2980799
That sounds pretty cool Anon! Mind sharing some clips?

>>2980840
both

>>2980998
no one cares about ESL part.
accent may be a buff.

>>2980998
Accent makes you unique and memorable. It's a buff.

If you don't know certain words in English, trying your best words you do know is cute and entertaining, so away that pepeloni.

>>2980874
https://files.catbox.moe/vkq4w3.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/r6lz5z.mp4

And also I've been doing Ringfit with the 3d model on as well: https://files.catbox.moe/lnucp3.mp4

>>2981415
>https://files.catbox.moe/r6lz5z.mp4
that one is my favorite of the bunch, gives me both Hatoba and Adult Swim block vibes despite the happy music.

>>2981415
>https://files.catbox.moe/vkq4w3.mp4
catchy as cute as hell. whats your channel?

>>2981415
Oh hey! You're that cute chuuba from that Vermintide clip! Nice one, hope to see more vids on your channel soon!

>>2981667
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgcx0pQsUO9KF2bF-n9MgUQ/

>>2981849
subbed. I don't even care about the penis

>>2981849
>sees cute model
>clicks video and hears them talk
suddenly lost interest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65A2SEnynJk

fucking lmao, this is /ourgirl/ for sure

will putting japanese text on my channel name actually attract japanese people

>>2982973
do you have content accessible to japanese people?

>>2982973
not really no
they barely watch their own chuubas

>>2983052
WHAT. I thought vtubing originated from japan

>>2983103
talking about indies

>>2983103
why does any of that have to do with people watching you?

>>2980803
If female, slight accent can even be a buff, as long as you're understandable. It's only a debuff if you're male.

>>2981849
Whoever your artist is they did an A++++ job with the model, that is such a cute fucking design

>>2982992
i do art so it might be

How do I stop my mic from picking up background noises?
I did a test recording earlier and it picked up my dogs playing and construction next door

>>2983967
several options
1. sound treat your room, have things with many ridges like clothing on flat surfaces\
2. buy a mic with a low cut function that minimizes background noise. at2035 has this for example
3. buy or make a booth. its cheap if you can make it with milk cartoons. a box or a wall behind the mic would absorb reflecting sounds

>>2983967
If you're using OBS
Right click your mic > filters and add an expander and mess with the settings till your mic isn't picking up background noise

>>2984079
Thanks, any other tutorials I should know about?

>>2984898
Reaper plugins for OBS.

>>2987019
explain to me like I'm stupid

>>2987139
go here: https://www.reaper.fm/reaplugs/
download the 64bit plug ins and install them
they'll appear as filters that you can use in OBS (pic rel)
they're VST 2.x plugins and give you greater control over things like Noise Gates, EQs, Compressors, Limiters, etc. they're much better and more streamlined than the basic filters that come with OBS.

>>2987244
Thank you helpful anon

What are the pros of switching your stream times around? I've seen a stagnation in my views and raids lately and I'm not sure what the cause is...

>>2974018
That model was honestly uncomfortable to look at. It's a bit too uncanny

>>2974018
Fofamit's children? All she did was rig mouth visemes, she's not a 3D modeler.

>>2977106
thanks anon, I really appreciate it. I live in France right now in case you wanna look around, but you don't have to. The info is pretty useful already

>>2973470
Is there a reason you single out males specifically?

>>2991415
because when you engage in an activity where the audience is predominantly smoothbrain coomer males, a female anime model that roughly estimates traditional norms of 'attractiveness' is enough to retain viewers. (alternatively, pedoshit) but male anime models aren't afforded such leeway.
>inb4 "just don't be a guy in a hoodie", Gura is literally a loli in a hoodie, and look at what's going on there.

i've yet to see any self-identifying male vtuber using a male-presenting model and a male-presenting voice that is actively gaining viewer primarily due to his male live2d avatar. if you have any examples, i'd love to see them.

>>2991493
What about YamiVT?
I mean he's basically a daycare teacher, no other gimmicks, and he's partnered.

I don't know if you consider that successful, but even Merryweathery who's been doing webcomics for years only pulls in triple digits.

>>2991555
>YamiVT
one of the few exceptions to the rule

>Merry
>using someone who is riding on the coattails of 6+ years worth of meme comics creation
lemme guess you're gonna point to Takahata101 of TeamFourStar next?

>>2991596
How the fuck did you know my battle plan!?

From the looks of it, green dog is also growing, but I'd say that's definitely a gimmick though.

what kind of first post am i supposed to make on social medias

>>2991633
Hello world.

>>2980803
As long you aren't french.

Hey /asp/ies.
As somebody who has been in the digital entertainment industry for 13 years, I have a few questions for you.
Why do you aspire to enter this industry?
Why do you wish to become a vtuber? What about it appeals to you?

>>2992255
>Obvious bait but I'll bite

Because I want to get e-famous. I want people to think about me when they're not immediately talking to me.

My wettest dream is having people jerk off to my model or my voice. I want porn drawn of my model.

Right now I'm in a very comfortable place in my life in terms of work and living conditions, but I'm bored out of my mind and I want to get random peoples' dicks hard but I don't want to do irl porn.

>>2992255
I can finally be the little girl.

>>2992367
Apologies that you saw it as bait, merely the curiousity of an aging man.
It's unfortunate that you're as cynical as you are, edginess was pretty popular a few years back, though it's bubble burst quite quickly.
If you look at the current meta for digital entertainment, vulnerability and genuine interaction is exceptionally well received.
Do try to keep up.

>>2992735
VTubing is incredibly cynical and cutthroat, anon. You're not fooling anyone. It's manufacted vulnerability all the way. You need to appear genuine, not BE genuine.

>>2992735
your way is the way of the dinosaur, old man

>>2992816
Entertainment as a medium is beyond cutthroat, it's certainly no secret that any talent in the industry or it's subdivisions is merely a commodity. That's precisely why I asked why people here would choose to enter such an industry.
With that said, when I say cynicism is bad for vtubing, I'm referring to the talent themselves. It can and inevitably will seep through into any persona you create and viewers will feel it.

>>2992816
no views huh dont worry man

>>2993115
Haha joke's on you I'm schizoid and forget about my RL self when I'm streaming.

>>2992255
I have a job and my students found my personal YouTube account once already so vtubing still lets me have a face while not being trackable to my rl self

>>2992255
I want to say and do shit without tying it to my real self. also I have a cute voice so I want to profit off it.

>>2994017
As a fellow Chooba, this is painfully relatable.

>>2992255
well ive always wanted to try lets playing and or streaming but ive always been to scared to show my face around the internet because im to self conscious vtubing seems like a perfect fit.. plus i wanna be an anime girl

>>2994017
I work as a teacher too and I can't get enough of the attention. I want bigger crowds! More people!

>>2994017
That sounds like an interesting story. If you're willing to share, how did they respond to the fact that you did YouTube stuff?

>>2994282
>>2994479
The common theme I'm seeing is that vtubing allows you to maintain an extra layer of division between you and the audience, is that a fair way of me wording it?
It's certainly true that there have been problems as a result of people digitally publicising every aspect of their life.
The grass isn't massively greener on the virtual side with constant roommate posting etc. But unless you make it massive, that's perhaps less risky.
Anyway, thank you for your replies, it's given me some perspective on the matter.

>>2995345
Honestly it's a chance for me to reinvent and experiment with myself and my presentation without any baggage. Worst case scenario I'll slash and burn it all and start again from scratch.

>>2995345
The content on the channel was mostly speedrunning videos and a couple of silly meme videos; they seemed impressed that I held a world record in a game that like 5 people played though!

>>2995345
my roommate will be impossible to find as I have never used my real name or uploaded my face on the internet before. to the internet I don't exist and I never have existed. once I get bored I'll purge my vtuber persona and pursue a different hobby

>>2993115
>cynicism is bad for vtubing, I'm referring to the talent themselves. It can and inevitably will seep through into any persona you create and viewers will feel it.
nihilism is pretty destructive too, you really have to give a fuck to survive

>>2963994
Can 3d modellers advertise the fact they do Vtuber models in these threads? Been thinking about doing avatars

>>2996454
of course, give pricing too

Ive been looking for a good 3D modeler who also does nsfw models. gonna probably cost a fortune though

>>2997630
>Nsfw
Why? Are you going to make a Patreon/OnlyFans and sell the pics?

>>2964989
Offer to watch still stands!

>>2990842
Oh boy, French electronics prices are foutu as fuck. If you were in Paris during normal non 'rona times it'd be worth a walk down rue Montgallet, there's usually some kind of decent thingy on sale there if you have cash to spend. I wouldn't buy anything if it's not on sale.

Check Grosbill, LDLC and materiel.net . After that just run the models on google and see the reviews. Alternatively if you're okay buying used, try forum.hardware.fr. Could also try leboncoin but I have bad experiences with people on there acting like dickheads and jacking up prices at the last second.

If you want, post any models you might be interested in here and I can also take a look at them.

>>2992255
I have a habit of constantly talking to myself when I play videogames, so I might as well do that in front of an audience for money. Vtubing gives you a bit of a numbers buff that I'm cynical enough to exploit, plus I enjoy roleplaying a character.

>>2993115
>when I say cynicism is bad for vtubing, I'm referring to the talent themselves. It can and inevitably will seep through into any persona you create and viewers will feel it.
In my experience, it isn't the cynicism that drives people away, it's lying about it. Telling new people to the stream that they're the lucky 10,000th viewer and they win a free pizza if they follow and subscribe makes them more likely to do that.

>>2998015
I'm a lolicon with a loli model. its gonna be for my personal pleasure. maybe if there's enough interest I'll whore myself out like melody

>>2998102
>Loli model
Cringe

>>2998251
look in the mirror to see true cringe

>>2998251
seethe

>>2992255
I want to have a fun community to chat with people, discuss alcohol & tasting, and chill while playing games I like. I already have a good job and a comfortable life so that's not really the objective, though I won't exactly complain if I get bigger. I always liked the idea of vtuber models, and have no interest in using my 'real' face so went down this path.

>>2999353
yeah this is basically where I'm at where growing my channel isn't my biggest priority as I'm living comfortably, but if I did get bigger I wouldn't complain about it

>>2992255
I always liked performing on stage, but it never went beyond minor roles in school and college plays. But now I see that there’s an opportunity to write and play my own show for the cost of nothing, and I don’t have to ask anyone’s permission or be embarrassed about it due to anonymity. And maybe, just maybe, I’ll make it to an agency where I could learn how to do this professionally.
Or at least I’ll meet other wackjobs like me and won’t be so alone anymore.

I'm too old to start vtubing. I'm so sad I wasn't born at the right time. Maybe some anon can fulfill the dream I always had that died

>>3000709
How old?

>>3000709
How old are you? I'm aware of quite a few vtubers in their 30s and 40s; I can't imagine why age would have to be a barrier here

>>3000709
You're never too old to start something new, anon.
My grandpa was 70 when he learnt to look up 'lesbian kissing' on YT.

>>3000804
21

>>3000892

>>3000892
yeah you're definitely way too old to be a VTuber. In fact, you're probably too old to do anything of importance so you should probably just kill yourself.

>>3000892
Bruh I’m 28 shut up. You’re in the prime age for this. Start making videos before the fad collapses.

I'm 35 years and I'm doing fine.

rtx 3080 vs rx 6800? not really sure which I should get. could also get the rx 6900 because the price is close to the 3080 where I live.
my cpu is ryzen 5 5600x

>>3000804
>>3000836
...I'm 32. Just three years before bariatric high risk pregnancy

>>3001189
stfu and make some effort boomer

>>3000892
Most of Hololive is around that age, if not older. Pretty sure Aruru is atleast mid 20’s

>>3000892
>obvious troll
>You all

>>3001189
Pizzadad is almost 40 and he's doing fine. Stop posting frogs, start following your dreams.

>>3001161
What are the price equivalents in USD? Are you planning to do 4k gaming?

>>3001189
Be a hag mommy or like a regular streamer with an avatar if you’re a man

>>3001272
>>3001306
Wait, he’s in his 40’s? I guess I just can’t tell Japanese voice’s ages well

>>3001639
He's over 30 for sure, most likely under 40 but he sometimes slips in references to shit from late 80s and early 90s

What do you think about my voice, anon? Can I make it?
https://voca.ro/19OvvQjr02Qw
https://voca.ro/1ku7nHy7LS24
https://vocaroo.com/1kVq2J902030

>>3002660
I think your voice is good. You might want to enunciate a little better or tinker with whatever filter or tech you're using, since clarity could become an issue. Content-wise, I don't find gratuitous cursing to be very attractive, but that's just me. Best of luck to you!

Late hours bump.

I have a lot of experience with video editing and key framing. I'm watching Cubism tutorials and I feel like it can't be entirely impossible to make something with a degree of 'natural' movement, just a lot of work/adjustment and getting used to a different workspace. And I too in over my head?

>>3009201
Not really, cubism is very straightforward once you try it for a bit

>>3001189
I'm 35 and I'm just getting started on being a vtuber, though I'm a guy. Age doesn't really matter much, just means maybe slightly changing your character. You all need to stop inventing reasons you'll fail. Reality will try that itself and it really doesn't need the help.

Would it be alright if I posted a doodle of my character's design and a little bit about him? I received advice the other day to use something like a doodle or a sketch while I'm waiting for an artist, so I thought I'd give it a try, but I've never really done something like this before.

>>3009807
keep everything the same, change the mouth to be open and use the discord Reactive images trick to simulate talking https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_GHGxZoahQ

>>3009605
Thanks anon, you're a good guy. Time to start practicing

>>3009807
HOLY SHIT TRAVIS TOUCHDOWN FROM THE CULT HIT WII GAME NO MORE HEROS IS BECOMING A VTUBER

>>3002660
why are you a robit

>>3002660
https://vocaroo.com/15YJ0xXK954C

>>3009846
Thank you for replying! I was considering that, but I wasn't sure if the doodle itself was good enough to actually use on stream.

>>3010223
I've never played No More Heroes, so I didn't even think of Travis, but you're right. Damn. Maybe I'll tinker with the design a bit then. What I was going for was Koji Kabuto and Mazinger Z mixed with Kenji from Katawa Shoujo.

For 3D tracking, what options are there for going beyond just a webcam?

>>3010962
it looks like max stirner cosplaying travis touchdown lmao

>>3010962
it's just placeholder, you can update it with an actual commissioned piece in the future

>>3010994
There's Kinect Camera but that isn't worth it, it'll be wasted money very stuttery tracking. (Same with playstation eye)
There's VR tracking which is a bit more affordable and has good enough tracking but you might not like having a headset on your head.
Last one's the most expensive and that's Flex13s from OptiTrack, Vtuber studios in japan use them but 1 camera is $999 USD and you'd want at least 4.

>>3011009
I got a good chuckle out of that. I'm definitely more of an autist than an artist, or a designer for that matter.

>>3011074
That's true, I guess I'm just hoping the commissioned piece comes sooner rather than later.

>>3009807
this is cool i'd watch you. i like the spiral glasses and max stirner vibe. neat

>>3011883
Thank you! I'll try streaming soon; I just got my new computer today so I'm still setting up a lot of stuff.

I hope this doesn't come across as a humblebrag, but I'm curious how I should go about expanding my viewerbase. I average 18-25 viewers per stream according to the last two months analytics, and on average am making $10/hr for every hour I do stream. It's something, sure. More than many will ever have. But how am I supposed to go beyond this soft cap I hit? Is the only way forward doing more streams/collabs in the hopes a big name notices me?

Sup /asp/ies how you all doin

>>3014927
start shilling, ask your viewers to shill you, get your name out there, clip yourself and post to tiktok, use the proper hashtags, the usual stuff.

>>3014927
shill yourself/ask a viewer to shill like your life depended on it
network

Hey asp/! I was wondering if I could get some feedback on my lil avatar fella here, in my mind its a little limiting but could be fun! what do you guys think?

>>3015082
seems fine.
is it static, reactive, or gonna be rigged live2d?

>>3014951
>>3014966
Ugh. I hate so many things about all of that. I absolute loathe it when people go into mine or other streams and shill another streamer. I don't want my viewers to do that because it looks bad on me for encouraging it. It's one thing if it comes up organically and the streamer is asking for recommendations, but in my experience it's 9/10 times just idiots going "HEY YOU SHOULD COLLAB WITH X BECAUSE THEY DO Y". No one likes that.

I'm also pretty sure I'm just not understanding the Twitter game despite using the same hashtags as anyone else. People look at my follower count and expect me to be this big name. In reality, I maybe get all of one or two retweets/reply engagements regardless of the time of day I post. The only time I get actual numbers is when I post art I've commissioned.

I will also never touch the hot trash that is tiktok. Fuck that style of posting, fuck the zoomer 30-second content mindset it promotes.

>>3015116
hes gonna be rigged live2d, so he can dance!

>>2963994
Any advices for those that applied to HoloEN in case of being messaged for the job interview?
I remember Ina said that she got the job because she managed to speak about pizza with her interviewer for about an hour

>>3015177
nice, good luck anon. make sure it's expressive.

>>3015146
organic growth never happens anymore, anon. just how the game works. and don't worry about other people's impressions of your follower count and shit. you can check your own twitter engagement numbers on your stuff anyway. use that, experiment with hashtags and see which ones seem to be pulling in the good numbers, retweet your own art after it's cooldown a bit (like a month old piece that got good traction last time)

>>3011151
Can't you do VR tracking with just motion trackers and base stations though, without a webcam?
https://youtu.be/7IAfZxoK7AI

>>3015146
most people know that you don't blame the player you blame the game
there are also some ways to shill more elegantly

>>3015327
>there are also some ways to shill more elegantly
Do you have an example?

>>3015371
shilling yourself only on places you are allowed to and maybe ask a trusted viewer to shill you instead of yourself, they will explain better you appeal than yourself
don't shill yourself in places you know there will be nobody likes you or your content just isn't for
make something a bit more high effort to shill yourself, maybe a edited clip compilation or a short introduction video you can easily link people to

>>3015498
>don't shill yourself in places you know there will be nobody likes you or your content just isn't for
I think this is my major block at the moment. The stuff I stream is niche and there's only a handful of places where shilling it would make sense. There's always break-out posting I suppose, but it's sort of a chicken before the egg thing.

>>3016089
What do you stream Anon?

>>3016089
every niche has an audience anon, good luck on finding the group that would like to watch you though
posting yourself might help

Does anyone know if there's a way to exaggerate your mouth movements with waidaiyo + VSeeFace? I have a small mouth so it looks like I'm barely moving my mouth. VSeeFace webcam tracking allows you to do that, but when it comes from waidaiyo I can't figure out a way to exaggerate or change any settings.

>>3016750
pretty sure that depends on whether your mouth is rigged enough to show those expressions. if there's a maximum value for a blendshape on your model, it'll never get larger than that.

>>3016460
Probably going to out myself answering, but TTRPGs primarily. I know it's a relative dead zone in terms of growth, and that what matters is that my players are having fun. Still, it's hard not to look at more popular GMs and go "how do I get to that level?"

>>3016750
Waidaiyo is going to go off your IRL mouth, which means you might have to overexaggerate your mouth and expressions to transition to your avatar in the way you're thinking. There's also a new tool out that lets you import iFacialMocap data into Vsee. Might be worth a look

>>3017005
>TTRPGs
Nice, there's no shame in that. What sort of games are you interested in? Are you following Arcadum's campaign with the VShoujo girls?

>>3017005
I hope you do well streaming TTRPGs. /tg/ was my home board for many years and I loved playing a campaign of Eclipse Phase over IRC. D&D is bland overall but probably would catch the most eyes due to familiarity. If I had time I'd look for a way to play a campaign of Exalted online.

>>3017110
Right now I'm running 3 Star Trek games, 1 Pokemon, and 1 Fallout. I'm very much aware of both of Arcadum's Vtuber groups to date. He does a good job of bringing new people/streamers to the space. Really my only nitpicks of his games involve the tools he uses and effective use of time. Sure, every stream is going to be scuffed just a little bit, but it happens enough that I think he'd do a lot better of he tested things prior to starting the games he runs. Again, though, that's mostly just a nitpick. The content itself is solid and enjoyable.

>>3017241
Thanks anon! In general you're right in that D&D would be more visible, if only because you can actually use the D&D category for your games. Non D&D have to use Tabletop RPGs, which most viewers don't know about. However, even being in the D&D category can hurt. There's so many people out there trying to be the next Critical Role that even Vtubing yourself and or your players isn't quite enough to get noticed

>>3017499
Honestly I doubt you'd get bopped for using d&d for any game. And stuff like Exalted would allow for batshit insanity which may catch more attention, but explaining the mechanics would drive you to drink.

>>3017573
That's the other aspect of things. A streamed game has to be accessible enough for someone new to drop in and understand what is going on without needing a lecture on dice mechanics. Tools like roll20 macros can make that easier to digest, but most of the time you shouldn't spend more than 1-2 minutes (if that) dealing with dice unless it's a super important roll.

>>3016860
I imported the VRM and made the blendshapes for the vowels have a high maxium and start at a higher minimum, but that didn't seem to really help. Not 3D versed enough.

>>3017005
I'll check out some tutorials and see if it'll work better.

>>3017766
Wait, are you using the HANA tool at all? You absolutely need that for waidaiyo to work right

>>3017920
I'm testing a model with the HANA tool already provided. Trust me it's working great, much more expressive, but I was trying to adjust that to see if there was a way I could make the mouth movements more extreme just with blendshape presets or something. Probably doesn't work like that, but thought I'd give it a shot because exaggerating my mouth movements all the time seems...uncomfortable.

>>3018230
Ah I see now. Personally I just got used to exaggerated expressions after a few goes at it. It's less uncomfortable than you'd think. iFacialMocap does have blendshape adjustments, so that might be your best bet

>>3018310
Yeah it was pretty cheap so I was checking it out. I didn't see the settings for being able to edit just the normal a e i o u shapes though. In the little grey face the mouth seems big enough, but it doesn't translate to the the model well. My eventually goal is to be able to make a model myself, maybe I'll learn something about it at some point, but I was just trying to test how it works on my face before I get that far in the 3d process. The results are that my glasses are too thick and my mouth is small so...guh.

>>3018310
Seconding ifacialmocap. I've messed around with it a lot and it's similar to live2D in the sense that you can adjust the different weights and how much of a blendshape/movement does what. Setting mouth and eyebrow related ones to 1.5 or so can help significantly and gives even better results when you do exaggerate for a really silly face.

>>3017402
Yeah this is what most people who originated streaming VRChat use. It's extremely precise tracking. You're looking at about 400-600 dollars worth of gear if you don't already have it.

>>2997630
My solution would be to get a 3D modeler to make you a "nude base" and just say it's for swapping clothes. You won't have genitals or nipples and essentially be a barbie doll, but getting those added by someone is a lot easier than finding a 3D NSFW artist that will do loli.

Beyond the obvious, if I want to become a vtuber in the future what are some things I should consider so that I don't risk being doxxed?

>>3019439
Get a VPN

>>3019439
Start with a separate email that you use for the basis of all your future social media accounts. Use Steam Family Share feature to access games installed from your main with a fresh account. Use separate browsers for personal and vtuber. Don't post selfies, wipe exif data on images, the usual.

>>3019495
Can they see the email you use on Twitter/Twitch?

>>3019484
Already have one, worth every penny

>>3019549
for the average viewer? no. but piss off someone enough and they'll find a way to figure it out.

>>3019572
How often does this actually happen? I've already set up my Twitch with my email and have like 10 followers on there but I don't really want to have to remake everything all over again

>>3019622
no one knows. shill yourself on /wvt/ and see if the way you say a certain word triggers an anon enough for them to try and doxx you.

>>3019638
idk anon, when you say it that way it almost sounds more like some kind of 4chan boogeyman level of paranoia

>>3019661
you asked for tips on opsec, i gave them to you. if you don't care, then go for it.

>>3019622
I mean you should be able to just change the email in the settings.

>>3014927
>average 18-25 viewers per stream
>making $10/hr
Really? I kinda figured I'd be sub-minimum wage unless I hit 100 or so average viewers.

Vket 6 is about to happen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSN1EE1vztE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6sNck-FhEo
You probably could get yourselves a nice avatar there

I don't use a VPN, my emails used for accounts aren't tied to irl, I use two factor authentication, what are the chances I could get doxxed?

>>3019803
I'm a similar boat, I'm at about 10/hr with only 10-15 viewers. There's a hell of a lot of really nice people out there supporting streamers. That being said, I do know people bigger or more popular than me that don't make as much, so it's really a luck thing at times as well, but this last year my donations have been pretty consistent.

>>3020616
100%
all you need is a dedicated anti

Are there any examples of a v-tuber (or similar I guess) getting doxxed from a dedicated anti? Aside from ones that don't do the obvious levels of protection

>>3021230
all of the holos were doxxed. ALL of them. you can't stop a dedicated anti.
your only real defense is being insignificant and unnoteworthy for anyone to care.

>>3015146
That's the game, honestly. No one "makes it" without shilling or having shills. You shill your good clips on youtube and twitter, you shill them to those clip sharing accounts, you have viewers shill them to other communities they're apart of, etc. All these things people from here tend to be "too proud" or whatever to do are the biggest things you can do to grow yourself. Otherwise you have to hope you get lucky and a big person takes a liking to you and tucks you under their wing like Alfi or something.

>>3021270
Subaru and Suisei weren’t. All you have to do is not show your real face online, ever. It’s that simple.

>>3015146

whats your twitter follower count

>>3021270
na, I never showed my face online ever, I'm 100% invisible. bring it on, schizos

should i do first stream on both twitch and youtube and see which one bans me first

>>3023964
yes. and link

My friends tell me I have a face for vtubing.

>>3024024
in a month

I can't tell if I'm overthinking this or not
I want to join HoloPro eventually. I don't know how long it will take, but I want to do it.
I also currently want to draw lewd art of Holo members, and I'm afraid that might kill my chances of getting in. I'm aware that quite a few of the members are completely okay with that sort of art, but I wonder if management feels the same way. Like, I can totally see certain kinds of fans getting super pissed: "That asshole lewded MY wife, and they're letting him work with them!?"
Is it better to just be on the safe side and resist my urges?

must be a slow night with all these tourists

>>3024331
If your art sucks it'll probably reflect badly. If you're already a very talented artist the reaction would likely be neutral. This is all for the sake of something with extremely slim chances happening anyways (Cover accepting EN males and then you getting in) so you should really just do what you want right now

So why is Twitch better for Vtuber streaming again? Since there's no discoverability other than networking and building your presence on other sites, how do the benefits outweigh what Youtube gives? More money?

>>3024922
Eh, Twitch has its pros and cons, just like Yourube, but neither are definitively ‘the best’

>>3024922
More viewers and more potential viewers on twitch, along with networking possibilities, raids, etc. Youtube is better for highlights and short-form content in order to push people to your Twitch. Twitch is objectively better though.

>>3024922

Twitch has lower chat delay

Youtube has the ability to pause live streams and continue on watching what you missed by clicking play again(the DVR function)

Twitch has raids, channel point redeems, custom emotes that work across all streams on twitch. If you have an excellent/relatable/hilarious emote that your viewers toss out in other streams, people will subscribe to you just to gain access to those emotes. If they're already subscribed, why not also watch?

Putting shortform videos on youtube makes your channel more discoverable and creates passive growth over time. VODs are trash, nobody watches those except dedicated viewers that missed your live for X reason.


Which one sounds better? If you have a brain and aren't a groupthink coomer, you'll understand that both have strengths and neither has a decisive advantage.

>>3018706
thank you for the advice. many western 3D modelers don't want to do loli at all even if sfw. I've looked into some japanese artists and most of them are okay with making a loli model, it's just they have a long waitlist. for now I'm getting a live2d model and I'm gonna get the 3d at a later time.

>>3024331

You're reaching for reasons why cover will reject you other than your lack of skill at entertaining.

If you have the ability to hold and grow an audience, they won't give a shit about your history of making horny fanart of their talent. The only thing a good business gives a shit about is your ability to make them money.

Remember that, and do your fucking reps.

>>2963994
Is it a bad idea to deepen your voice with a voice changer? I want to play this fucking huge guy, but I have a weak voice. It's not a serious character, he's a fucked up war veteran playing games about war, screaming out battle cries and shit.

>>3025610
Basically, the TF2 soldier.

>>3025610

Yes, voice changers sound awful.

You'd be better off doing voice training and "deepening" your voice that way, but even that route will ultimately burn you out.

The sustainable method is just to design a character that matches your voice. The vast majority of fucked-up war veterans aren't roided out macho men, anon. They're people probably very similar to you.

>>3025610
rather than using voice changer do exercises daily to be able to voice act, there's also a few tools that can make you sound deeper without feeling awful if you learn how to control audio settings

>>3025658
>>3025681
Thanks, anons. I should do some voice training, anyway.
>a few tools to make you sound deeper
Like what?

>>3025772

Download and load reaper plugins for OBS, fiddle around with reaper equalizer settings. It's like when you're fucking around with the EQ on your car stereo, you can cause the sound of the music your listening to to change significantly.

>>3025823
Nice. Thanks, mate.

>>3025925

Shut the fuck up and do your reps

(I'm cheering you on and will probably lurk in your future streams)

>>3025772
roids

Let's talk a little about clips.
In hololive, clips tend to be the rabbit hole for many viewers. They're short, digestible content that requires little-to-no time investment from the viewer.
I'm working off of research done a few years back, but YouTube's recommendation algorithm rates videos on their ability to keep people on platform. Short clips that people can bounce between are well promoted. I'd argue that's part of the reason why vine and tiktok culture grew to the sizes they have.
Clips are great for exposure. They're low-effort, and the time-cost of watching a single clip is minimal in comparison to dropping in to an entire stream. Watching clips won't always follow through to a full-time viewer, but it certainly opens the door.

>>3019484
how does that help in any way?

>>3026101

That relies on you having enough charisma and wittiness to have natural clippable moments while you stream.

The other option is to record and edit "clips" off stream.

>>3026250
cant you make clips out of really anything though?

>>3026383

I guess you could, but I firmly think shartemis' flatline is because he is such a bore that there are no clippable moments in any of his streams. 220k subs, there are vtuber clipper channels that are really scraping the bottom of the barrel to find things to clip and there's nothing there.

>>3026553
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPPuIaHqi_ynKRcw_W7z6cg
i know we have an Artemis hate boner but it took me 10 seconds to find a channel

>>3026656

I know people are making clips of artemis, I'm saying they dont work. Those clips are awful, they get the views because of the youtube algo but clearly none of them are converting to youtube subs for the shark

>>3026726
it ain't as bad as you are making it out to be, for such a bad streamer that's a steady growth, most /here/ would die for these numbers

>>3026250
What are some of the things you look for in a Vtuber that makes them clippable? It's not enough to be nice, have a talent, and talk to chat, so what is it? What aspect of a Vtuber's personality lends itself for making clips?

>>3026811

220k subs, averaged 300 viewers in the last stream.

I know it's tempting to look at a big number and call it a day but delta, rate of change, matters more. That was your original assertion about the power of clips, right? Growth?

I think clips have enormous potential for growth, but it cant wring blood from a stone, so to speak.

Focus on being entertaining and engaging first. Only after our chuubas here have mastered that will clipping be a worthwhile pursuit.

>>3026848

This is the million dollar question, isn't it?

I think it's a mixture of improvisational skill, having a wide and deep breadth of knowledge on lots of topics, and being able to be confident and charming.

Or you can just say horny coomer shit every other sentence like Snuffy does. That clearly works.

>>3026848
i'm gonna talk about the shit that reaches my recommended since it's all chuubas
>Hi Honey~
>chuubas acting horny for one another(female only)
>acting horny in general
>incredibly dumb
>funny moments
>crying, getting emotional
>weird accents
a good way to know if a moment is a good clip is if it got a strong reaction out of your chat

>>3027063
Ok but unironically, the emotionally clips is what stopped me from becoming a gosling

>>3027102
explain

>>3026953
Any tips on cultivating the former? I have a niche I think would be appealing as a streamer but my knowledge on particular subjects is basically limited to one or two topics.

>>3027243

You can take improv classes, those definitely help. The knowledge is helpful but not as necessary IMO.

Confidence and charm might as well be luck, you either have it or you don't. I do think you can "fake it till you make it" however and mimic confidence to the point where it's hard to distinguish from the deal real.

As for practical tips... I guess study clips of chuubas that are similar to you that get traction. Don't steal the bit, but take a long hard look at the parts of those clips that got a strong emotional response out of you. Apply those concepts to your own streams.


Check out the comments on this clip of Ais, I bet this clip resulted in at least 10-20 new twitch followers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edMgE3BB5Z8

>>3027422
Thanks Anon, fake it till you make it might do me good. I don't know who'd be pretty similar to me though, I'm pretty average and milquetoast.

>>3027063
Most of these don't work if you're a m*le

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeyAwKSBFEM

id/en/jp vtuber, she's very cute.

Whats a way to get people to actually care about lore?

>>3035019
don't become a vtuber, become a scripted youtube cartoon show instead

>>3035037
What if you do both?

>>3037152
then you're splitting your audience between people who want to see livestreaming shit and your vtube kayfabe and piss off both sides when they keep getting spammed with notifications of the content they don't care about. but seriously, fuck off with kayfabe, no one cares about it.

>>3037197
But shouldn't you use both Youtube and Twitch to its biggest potential as long as it's not alienating viewers? Youtube can't just be good for hosting clips and vids of your livestreams from Twitch, it allows you to be experimental with content you can't really do while livestreaming.

>>3037366
you're arguing in bad faith here suggesting that the advice to multistream for views specifically applies to kayfabe, fuck off. no one watches streamers for kayfabe, no on watches vtubers for kayfabe.

>>3037402
Doesn't kayfabe further distinguish yourself as a chuuba by seperating those who commit to a character and those that don't?

>kayfabe schizo is back
i'll see you all in a couple of hours after he's tired himself out, later /auds/!

>>3037537
This is literally my first time talking about this topic it's why I'm asking these questions.

>>3037578
He's obviously talking about the guy telling you not to do kayfabe, dummy

>>3037608
Oh. Sorry, they typed in the same way I assumed they vfc were talking about me. I think lore is one of the factors that further seperate Vtubers from regular streamers, and I like that aspect of chuubas that do so.

>>3035019
Involve it in your content in some way. Realistically though, most people won't be all too enthused to learn such things initially unless it's kept tangential to the main content.
It would probably be more useful in your networking until you have an audience who might actually ask questions you can answer.

I don't know a single successful vtuber, corporate or indie, whose audience case about "lore" and kayfabe.

>>3038094
>case about "lore"
m̶a̶y̶b̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶r̶e̶s̶ ̶a̶ ̶r̶e̶a̶s̶o̶n̶ ̶w̶h̶y̶ ̶

Ya'll really talking about lore not being important where there was that huge ass hachaama event that had everybody interested. It's hard to 'do' lore right, but you can do it.

>>3038515
>haachama
i mean, if you want to start off your lore-centric vtuber journey, literally no one can stop you. but comparing corporate vtuber who had 300k+ following prior to doing that lore event to an indie who hasn't even debut'd yet is pretty fucking bullshit of comparison.

>>3038546
>lore is so dumb not even a corporate youtuber can make it work
>shows example proving the opposite
>ummm but she was a corporate youtuber so she doesn't count
ogey

>>3038616
>implying people watch haachama for kayfabe

>>3038640
>people don't watch hachaama for the most unique and interesting part of content
what did anon mean by this

>>3038716
>the most unique and interesting part of content
[citations needed]

>>3038754
it's the main thing that differentiates her from other VTubers. Please tell me Mr. VTuber expert, why do people watch Haachama

Please stop.

why don't you kayfabe anons stfu and prove anti-kayfabe anon wrong? /asp/ always gets derailed whenever this bullshit comes up.

Now that holoen2 auditions are over and you're recovering from dealing with the fact you were never even given a chance and ended up with 0 views, what are your reps this week, anon?

is there a good template or guide to making a layout overlay? Or is it best to forgo an overlay and assets of the sort that take away from Stream screen real estate?

>vtuber plays themselves in a video game

>>3035019
You need to be funny and entertaining. That's literally it

>>3038855
Maybe this thread shouldn't have been named /asp/

>>3041230
is the answer to every question asked here just "bro just be funny"

>>3041283
you're right, it should have been named /aut/ for /aut/ism

should actually just have been /don't/

/ngmi/

>>3040947
context?

>>3041665
That's just the truth when it comes to that. Are you complaining that the answer isn't to drone on about your uninteresting character until people start paying attention? Because it's not going to happen. Maybe if you asked more technical questions regarding streaming then you'd get technical answers, but when it comes to 'what-ifs' regarding being a good entertainer and capturing an audience it's always going to boil down to putting in your reps and getting better at entertaining. Nobody is going to start analyzing your personality and give you a step-by-step on how to be more sociable. You should have had that figured out by the time you graduated highschool.

>>3038640
i mean i definitely heard a lot more people talking about her videos outside of here when she started that whole schizo arc
>>3038094
i don't know about you but the way kongou, spacer present their characters would not be nearly as interesting if they didn't play into their characters the way they do

>>3042000
which is why their viewer count averages stop at ~50 tops, right?

Anybody knows good artist that draws male characters to comissions for pngvtubing?

>>3043507
following

>>3042162
aside from this current month for kongou, those look like graphs of positive steady growth, yeah
do you measure success as someone who is able to instantly debut and hold 50+ viewer averages as an indie or something?
also while i know that spacer's numbers are huge thanks to raids it's kind of funny for you to say "~50 tops" when his average shows 62 there

>>3043693
>how do averages work when a large number shifts the mean?
>can't math
jesus i was ready to be disappointed but god damn

>>3043731
i don't get how this is a "can't math" situation considering you only said "viewer count averages" and not "viewer count averages without outliers"
still doesn't change the fact that those numbers represent a good incline

>>2992255
im insane and want to hurt people

>>2992255
I want to make other people happy in the vauge attempt to make myself happy. If someone smiles when they see me stream then I'll have accomplished my goal. Also I'm bored and want something to do.

Found some skeb's on the front page that I thought had nice art and cost around 5000 yen.

https://skeb.jp/@_sora_utsuro_
https://skeb.jp/@ayarori
https://skeb.jp/@isaribashi
https://skeb.jp/@maca_santa
https://skeb.jp/@sakekawa1111
https://skeb.jp/@kashisuover
https://skeb.jp/@kae77p
https://skeb.jp/@utg_amtu
https://skeb.jp/@loveodoro
https://skeb.jp/@GoldBianca
https://skeb.jp/@ame_sugar_

>>3045186
>>3043507
Meant to reply to you, I am stupid.
These artists do males.
https://skeb.jp/@ayarori
https://skeb.jp/@isaribashi
https://skeb.jp/@utg_amtu
https://skeb.jp/@ame_sugar_

why dont some of you tripfag? itd be a good way to get some following before actually doing anything

even if they do "male" characters, it's too easy to run the risk of defaulting to generic bishounen pretty boy and apparently every single person in
the west hates that

>>3045259
Not him but these are all bishies or otherwise effeminate males. It's a pain to find ones that draw masculine/beefy males. I'm on the waitlist for one at least, but it took some looking.

>>3045278
Tying yourself to 4chan directly is a risky thing.

>>3045603
All I can give you is this,
https://skeb.jp/@Nakaetsu786/works/3

>>3045603
>Tying yourself to 4chan directly is a risky thing.
It's really not at all. I'm surprised this 4chan boogeyman mentality still exists. Nobody that seriously has qualms with 4chan will care to watch you, let alone know of you.

>>3045603
im ready to die

>>3045278
this is obvious bait but its really funny so i'll reply anyway
also the original op of these threads got run of the boards for tripfagging (and also because they're debuting with an agency soon too and probably wanted to separate from 4chan)

>>3045769
yeah, this is the problem myself and a couple of other anons have been having for the past while (almost month now). there aren't man artists who draw more male-presenting men. it's mostly just bishie stuff since that's what their audience likes (which doesn't overlap well for vtubers)

>>3045777
you can scroll up earlier in this thread and see when transphobes came in and shat up the thread because they leaked from /pol/ i'd rather not have my channel associated with that shit.

>>3045603
>>3045777
>>3045867
thanks for clearing it up

I'm gonna draw porn of your design and there's nothing you can do about it.

>>3046339
Thanks for the free advertising!

>>3046339
Better be good

>>3046339
Good

>>3046339
Just remember to tag me in it

>>3046339
Joke's on you, that's my goal

>>3047836
>>3047836
>>3047836
>>3047836
new