/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>29602967
I think retards don't get the real p[roblem with Vshojo, that the girls, with Vei being the prime example, are fucking bitches.

People keep latching onto the slut thing because it's the most obvious difference, but it's not the real problem.

>>29603083
This desu

Noel is a literal sex worker for instance but she's sweet, gentle, and respects her audience.

>>29603083
Yeah, this is it. Vei and Pink Cat get called out the most, but all of them have done something bitchy, and hurt or bullied other people at some point or another, and covered it up with money.

Marine doesn't have as much freedom as any Vwhore, however that forces her to be as creative as possible for her stuff because as they say limitation breeds creativity, something Vwhores actually hate because it's so much easier to just say cum and dicks than actually having to think on how to make the stuff you want to

>>29603192
I think Mel and Mouse seem okay, Mouse apparently has some secrets but they're understandable to me, and Mels only real issue is if some things about the Nux drama are true.

>>29603083
vshojo is cool, really. mowtendoo is cool. the idea of creating a company to basically just tech support for girls because you're a big fan, and then they just take merch sales so it's not even scummy somehow, and you just have a gyari thing going, and voms and gyari are cool. but, the talent... the talent...

>>29602967
>but now you're saying "Marine's content is literally the same as VShojo's"
You're a complete newfag if you don't remember the Holo-VShojo tribal wars way before NijiEN became a thing. It's always been like that

>>29602967
It's not Vshills, it's nijiniggers.

>>29603522
>Mels only real issue is if some things about the Nux drama are true.
And her odd desire to want to kill babies.

>>29603440
source?
In your dreams?

>>29603574
Wtf does nijisanji have anything to do with this???

>>29603440
God i hate Nyanner's twofaced bitchyness.
I'm an immature autist with adhd so her humor is actually really down my alley, but she just has to keep being a fucking cunt to people.

>>29602967

>>29603574
I love Marine (and a lot of the other Holomem) though. She's fucking hilarious. And hot, which is nice.
t. Nijifag

>>29603515
exactly this, breaking/skirting around the rules is funner

>>29603610
every reasonable person wants to do that

>>29603192
>Noel is a literal sex worker
Hold on. Is she an actual prostitute?

>>29602967
There are a few twitter troons who lose their minds over the slightest hint of sexualized content and keep raiding /vt/ over it, but they don't actually watch vtubers, they're just obsessed with their own political ideals.
However, Vshojo is disturbing because of their irl sex/dating and how they keep bringing it on stream.

>>29604330
Reps. Your dick will thank you.

>>29604330
>pointing a camera at your tits
>literal sex worker
They're making a massive jump.

>>29605226
"sex worker" includes cam girls

>>29605411
She does naked tits? I was not interested, but I might look for it

>>29602967
didn't read but:
keep seething

>>29605226
Anon she literally gave a titjob to a dildo in the last one. Theres no jump at all.

>>29604330
She is a cam girl
>Is she an actual prostitute?
If prostitute is a person who engages in sexual intercourse in exchange for pay then she is not

>>29605525
Heard someone claim she did a boobjob with a dildo at one point. I didn't bother to check so they may of been lying.

>>29603717
the nux event

>>29603574
Stop blaming other tribe

>>29606675
Oh wow, tits fully out it seems.
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/3700110
And damn do I always forget how big Noel is IRL too.

>>29607053
>https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/3700110
Is that her ass in one of those pics?
God i fucking love whores.

What did marine do that made people say that I don’t watch her?

>>29607190
She had a great concert.

>>29607190
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV-5W7SFHDc

>>29607190

6 marine anti threads at once? Well damn whorejo intern, that's some dedication you have I'm impressed.
I hope you're getting paid for this.

>>29607396
She has come a long way.

>>29607118
The best part is that she's already rich from hololive, she doesn't have to do it. She does it because she wants to.
And yet, Noel still provides fun streams for her audience. She doesn't treat them secondary or bitchy. She's all about a good delivery that makes people happy, and that famous JP dedication to one's station in life.

>>29607465
Eh, he needs something to deflect from that Vei and Soda clip.
https://files.catbox.moe/68yqbm.mp4

>>29607528
Wasn't it the opposite? She's already rich enough from her paywalled content, but still does both it and Holo work.

>>29607588
I don't think her paywalled content has THAT many subs though, no? I would guess she makes way more money from Holo than that.

>>29607679
According to some numbers anons worked out before, her Holo income is pennies in comparison. Also, she was already rich enough before being a Holo.

>>29603574
RENT FREE BABY!!!

>>29607769
...

... Noel is just built different, then. Holy fuck.

>>29607881
>>29607679
>>29607769
>>29607588

Based Danchou

>>29607118
Sure is. The video also starts with her jacking the dildo off and then moaning while rubbing it against her crotch.

>>29603083
E-celebs are bitches, in other news water is wet

>>29607396
Is her head supposed to be that big?

>>29602967
Lets be honest here people who actually watch vshojo will never care about marine or hololive jp because they dont care about idol culture

You are just fighting amongst yourselves and falseflagging

Holy cope holocucks defending a whore lol lmao even

>>29609645
Whores are fine as long as they Hololive branding

>>29609645
Whores are fine as long as they're not bitches or double-faced. See /lig/ and better Veibae for examples.

What I'm learning from this thread is that all vtubers are whores but some are good whores and from those, big tiddy knight is the best.

>>29603083
>>29603192
>>29603440
>>29603559
>>29608175
Did you guys strain your backs moving them goalposts? I hope you didn't hurt yourselves. What will your excuse be next week when some of the Holos turn out to be bitches, too?

Just admit you're blind corporate loyalists and shut the fuck up with your excuse making already. It's pathetic.

>>29612184
>corporate loyalists
Nah, I also like better!Vei.

>>29602967
>What happened, vshills? Is "talent freedom" exclusive to VShojo or not? Are the girls able to do what they want to do or not?
Sounds to me more like VShojo JP spooked some people at Hololive to release the oppressive yolks a bit. I see this as a win for whore lovers everywhere!

>>29603192
>>29603515
>>29607053
>>29607769
>>29607881
>>29607943
>>29608001
>>29611684
Holomems are better than Vshojos even in being whores. We cant stop winning Holochads

>>29603717
>Nyanners: You already know
>Veibae: You already know, also the recent incident that is currently being covered up.
>Froot: Cheated on her husband while he was on deployment, reportedly leading to a divorce. Then sued people when they talked about it.
>Ironmouse: Actually one of the better ones desu. I'm not going to hold the rumors about her having a kid against her, since keeping your kid away from the internet is a good thing, especially with the kind of company and viewerbase she keeps. There's rumors of other stuff, but I haven't been able to find much info.
>Silver: Is sometimes a dick to chat, one of the three main drama queens along with Nyanners and Vei, the same three reportedly were the ones who started the Nux drama behind-the-scenes. Generally a "popular mean girl/bully"

These people dont actually believe any of the shit they say they are just talking points, most of them probably arent big vshojo fans just rabid holo antis trying to astroturf the board

>>29615015
So, business as usual?

>>29615134
Yes, this board just has such a high flow of newfags that most catalog browsers cant recognize gay ops when they see them

Noel truly is the best of both worlds.

>>29607881
>Noel is just built different
Well, she is, just look at her

>>29602967
>Wait, wait.
what a faggy subject lmao

Don't care about console wars when it comes to vshoujo. Luv me seductive, self-aware, ditzy gamer stacy with a heart of gold, simple as. I also respect mouse for being a tokuchad, mel for being wholesome to a fault, nazuna for her god-tier commitment to kayfabe, and I tolerate the rest despite their quirks.

In contrast, Hololove's idol culture requires chubas to have talents, skills, charisma and showmanship beyond just be a cute girl doing cute things. Problem is...a number of Holos really don't live up to the hype, and they wind up being boring because they lack the ability to be entertaining without coombaiting. That's why people lament the death of Hololive Summer, because deep down...we all know chubas are for sexual.

>>29605525
No nipples yet

If the people in this thread can't see the blatant falseflagging going on when everyone over in the vshojo thread gives absolutely zero fucks and most don't even know about what just happened with marine, you require medication. Everyone over there is too busy watching fuckin Zentreya's new 3D debut.

>>29617682
Nice post Soda now stream more than twice a week

>>29617682
>seductive, self-aware, ditzy gamer stacy with a heart of gold
I wasn't aware Shylily was a gamer.

>>29617682
>heart of gold
I'm a Vei simp, but even I think what she said about Shylily was pretty mean, even if it was more aimed at the people pestering her about it. If they ever collab together then I'll pretend it never happened because it means they're both good now, but until then, I think Vei owes her an apology.

>>29619892
Context for newfags. 0:51 if you want the specific moment.
https://youtu.be/f53SgB-RNSU?t=51

>>29619892
Holy fucking she’s already apologized. Let the drama that was never really drama in the first place die already

>>29617682
>heart of gold
Pic definitely not related

>>29621134
Veibased. Okay, I don't even remember what I posted earlier, must have been nothing, all I know Veibae is a good girl, even if she is a turbo giga slut stacy. (and that's a good thing)

>>29621748
And they are planning a collab

>>29621866
>And they are planning a collab
source?

>>29624241
Her first stream back from Covid. Someone asked if she’d ever collab with shylily and then she said that they’d be talking recently and might do a VR date. Later on she pulled up her discord on stream and you could see that she has indeed been talking to shylily.

>>29621866
wew.

>>29607815
Only Selen's tits live rent free in my head

>>29602967
the quality of the music and video is something you don't see in vsohjo th
coomer shit aside the song was is fucking good
plus I don't understand why people seethe so much about Marine's character, she's supposed to be this horny pirate

>>29617682
>Don't care about console wars
oh but you do
(((vshojo))) fags have been the worst shitposters in the past few weeks you can barely use this fucking board without tons of filters

>Threads critizing Vshojo get deleted almost instantly
Something's going on.

>>29617682
>Veibae
>heart of gold
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

>>29629879
Since they hired new jannies weeks ago and kson joining the deletions have been very rampant

>>29630342
Don't they realize that will only make people here like them less? They'd actually be tolerable if they actually knew how to not take things personally and own up to their mistakes.

>>29602967
When people complain about Vshojo you notice that Melody's name doesn't really come up even though she's a literal camwhore on CB.

How do we fix them?

>>29630673
Fire Veibae and Nyanners

Get rid of Hime as never streams.

Everyone else gets wrangled.

>>29630673
Let Zen go and just be an indie. Syd should stop pretending she cares. Remove Veibae entirely and Melody from twitch.

>>29630673
I'd say rape correction but I don't want an STD.

>>29602967
You're behind the times, this week's VeiBASED scandal she won't get canceled for is leaked racist comments in Discord DMs.

>>29631184
>trying to rape correct Hime
Literally the same as trying to fuck for virginity.

>>29630525
She's unironically the most honest of them all and you got to respect that

>>29607769
>Also, she was already rich enough before being a Holo.
Is this really a surprise to people? Noel said a long time ago she applied for hololive because she just wanted to make friends.

>>29602967
Bait threads and bait posts with a Vei image rarely have the desired effect on me since her cuteness prevents me from getting angry.

>>29630525
Wholesome whore

>>29613021
based

>>29603083
Absolutely true. VShojo needs some order to their chaos. If their talent continues to be involved in constant drama caused by political content and unprofessional behaviour, then no matter the resources and exposure invested in them, they will leave a sour taste in everyone’s mouth. There is already a significant dent in VShojo's reputation.

I think if VShojo want to succeed they needs to get rid of the bad actors(Veibae/Nyanners), and set some reasonable boundaries. Next step is to speed up talent acquisition, and start arranging far more collaboration streams. Hololive feels like a family, whereas VShojo members mostly tend to create their content completely separate and with very few interactions.

>>29632081
Just because whores like sex doesn't mean they want sex with literally anyone. A guy they don't want to fuck because he's too ugly or poor could still rape them.

>>29630673
Melody, Ironmouse and Silvervale need some tard-wrangling, the others are unfixable.

>>29630525
Because she keeps any whore-related topics on cb while staying mostly seiso on twitch. Arguably even manages to be less of a whore personality-wise on cb than some of her counterparts on twitch.

>>29613021
Based.

>>29634229
You're severely underestimating how depraved this slut is.

>>29635127
>depraved
>is actually married and doesn't give a shit
is this some kind of 4D chess

>>29630673
this looks like it was drawn by the people that draw MLP

>>29634137
For your first point I can say that's true. Some of the best pieces of media out there were created with constraints on the creators forcing them to get creative and bend the rules without outright breaking them. I mean look at just how many kids' shows from the 90s and 2000s managed to get away with so much innuendo, like the more infamous "Finger Prince" joke from the original Animaniacs cartoon. That's not to say they shouldn't have ANY freedom, since you can't squeeze blood from a stone after all, but letting creators without much internal direction or ambition run free is how you get garbage that no one likes or is seen as lazy and uncreative in retrospect.

>>29630673
I can fix them! (Not really)

when will you guys realize it's all just falseflagging and shitposting
you are arguing with the people on your side
you guys have an addiction for drama and (You)s, to the point you'll pretend you like something you hate just to get replies

>>29638327
>you guys have an addiction for drama and (You)s
So fucking what? You're on a board for retards simping for grifters hiding behind anime faces, stop pretending you're above anyone just because you're not a dramatard.

>>29638327
I will never be on the side of Holoniggers

>>29606382
I did not know this but 2 minutes of googling pulls it up, thank you based anon

>>29603574

>>29631184
Use a condom.

>>29603083
Ironmouse sins? Silvervale sins? Never heard of any

i don't know what's going on here, but these threads aren't made by vshojo fags.
i don't even know who "marine" is.

>>29645382
maybe im reaching but mouse contradicts herself all the time with her statements on her illenss. i dont wanna be the one to say it, but she said that before streaming she was poor, but apparently plasma costs thousands a month. crack the numbers and something doesnt add up. and silver is so boring noone cares about her

>>29648468
Having to pay for expensive things has a way of making people poor.

>>29652334
but you wouldnt consider yourself poor if you had that money, im pretty sure she said growing up too... i dont watch enough and im still inclined to believe her but quite a lot of what she says doesnt add up. but idk enough about life or illness to really say

Since Vshitshow are whores, then any poster here who pursues vtubing or being an Eceleb, and manages to get a large enough following has a shot to at least fuck at least one of them. I, for one, will be pursuing this goal, albeit mainly for a cut of that sweet 11 million.

>>29613021
Based

>>29602967
>comparing this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=705IIOKCa0M to a lewd MV
lol
lmao
I hope you're just false flagging
fuck Vwhorejo regardless

>>29605411
where's the sex though?

>>29630673
Euthanasia

>>29630525
Melody is based, she made literal retarded camwhores mald about stealing their job by being an AI who never gets tired.

>>29602967
I'm still mad about Nux.

why do you watch Whore Tubers anon?

>>29630525
Because Melody while being a literal pornstar is somehow the most wholesome and sweetest of the bunch. Even her CB streams are like 70% her just being a cute dork or being really awkward. She's also the only one to openly say she'd never get railed on stream because she doesn't want to upset her fans. Shes a cinnamon roll.

>>29606712
Nux is an asshole and retarded. He deserved to get shat on.

Are you really trying to say that they have to be nice to everyone or else they're a bitch?

>>29603083
The real problem is the entire boards fucking tribalistic behavior. Get over it already

>>29602967
Last week steam mouse peaked at 7.5k, nyanners at 7k, vei at 5.5k viewers on that same last week shxtou(Bday stream) got 18k viewers and shylily got 10.5k viewers no debuts or raids. Check today Filian the zoomer got 7.4k viewers, nihmune at 5k viewers..

Vshojo fags become insufferable when they compare their organization to hololive when they are struggling to surpass indie vtubers on their own streaming platform or turf.

>>29664083
much as i hate nux, indies were getting scammed and he spoke up about it.
and then they got shat on by nyanners and co
it was funny ngl but also kind of a dick move

>>29664863
>indies were getting scammed and he spoke up about it
One indie who VSJ made contact with privately
They didn't outright tell him not to publish the video, but they did heavily suggest that it was a bad idea and would disrupt the investigation.
Either Nux was too stupid to get the hint, or too obsessed with content farming to care. Video comes out, that dumb cunt got fed lies by the scammers who gloated about it later. And indeed he fucked up the private investigation into the issue.

He tried really hard to paint himself as the hero, who was only acting in service to the community, but in truth he was just trying to get content. That's all it ever is for him.

And with some VSJ members' history with online harassment and security concerns, it's no small wonder that he touched a nerve.

>>29666272
it's still vshojo's fault for giving it a go without asking the talents. shit company with shit talents, big surprise.

>>29666272
>They didn't outright tell him not to publish the video, but they did heavily suggest that it was a bad idea
Except they literally told him to publish the video and literally thanked him for it.
>And with some VSJ members' history with online harassment and security concerns
They weren't even the ones getting doxxed, Nyanners just sperged out for no reason because she's a slimy rat who wanted to take Nux down.

>>29666430
They should've been more firm with him, sure.
But knowing Nux, especially see him literally give them a deadline to review the video and send feedback before it went up, there wasn't going to be any convincing him otherwise.
From the moment he got that phishing email, he was making the video.

>>29666884
>who wanted to take Nux down
Based

>>29666926
Nice job ignoring the arguments, nigger. You wanna know what actually happened? Someone bought a bunch of Vwhorejo-related domain names and started scamming indie Vtubers with emails from it, including Nux. Vwhorejo did absolutely nothing about it (which is fucking illegal), and Nux was the one who sounded the alarm. He was also the one who took the scammer down, with the help from other people who cared. He then made a PSA about it, and even consulted the Vwhorejo cybersecurity "expert" about it, letting him preview the video, and getting a complete, unambiguous green light. He posted it, and Vwhorejo even thanked him on Twitter, everything's archived BTW. Then Nyanners has her spergout about "MUH PRIVACY" for no apparent reason ans tries to rally as much people as possible to take Nux down. No one knows why, either the company is clinically retarded and there was a massive miscommunication, or Nyanners realized how fucking bad the whole situation makes them look for ignoring the problem before Nux came out, so she decided to backstab and bury him just in case. Nux then comes out with the receipts for EVERYTHING, and Vwhorejo couldn't back up a single statement they made against him, including the "we didn't want it posted" one, they had nothing. Public opinion changed of course, and everyone there started backpedalling, with half-hearted apologies. Only Zen ended up actually apologising to Nux and her fanbase (for making them feel retarded).
The whole shit was started by Nyanners, and it's a perfect example of how vile she actually is. And it aligns with her previous behavior.
Now shut the fuck up and stop defending that rat.

>>29667814

>>29667891
As expected from the Vwhorejo nigger. You wouldn't be one if you weren't a retarded gullible ape.

>>29668073
Sorry I'm not reading your sperg novel

>>29668073
This board has been trying the whole day to teach them thing, I think their brain became too smooth being around all that thottery

>>29668240
I feel sorry for (you)

>>29667814
>you want to know what actually happened?
>proceeds to spout the most headassed bullshit of all time
lol

>>29669353
As he said, it's all archived

>>29669489
Would be nice if he actually looked at them before spouting the most retarded shit of all time then lol.

>>29667814
>He was also the one who took the scammer down
He 100% absolutely did not
He didn't do anything even close to that

>>29669353
It's all on the Internet, in plain text. Prove me otherwise (pro tip: you can't).

>>29664719
You didn’t even bring up the Korean Idol group that absolutely mogs them already on Twitch.

>>29669674
Okay. Nux was being fed false info by someone from within the group. He was told he was being fed false info, and instead choosed to believe the swatter was a genuine fan of his over VShojo's security guy. His entire video was based on something that didn't happen because the info he was given was for a person who didn't exist, and he was mocked by the actual swatters for being so retarded. Speaking of the archives: >>13685472

>>29670954
What in the fuck are you even talking about? The question - did those whores greenlight the video? Answer - yes, they also previewed it. Next question - why the fuck did Nyanners sperg out about it and started a witch hunt?

>>29671432
>what in the fuck are you even talking about
>>29667814
>He was also the one who took the scammer down, with the help from other people who cared.

>>29671566
That's not the important part, you niggerfaggot. Nyanners backstabbing someone to make herself look better (again) is the important part. Them posting "Thanks for the video, Nux!" on Twitter before deleting it and joining her "crusade" is important. That's what people wanted explained, and Vwhorejo ignored it.

>>29671909
>that's not the important part
I think it is. His entire hero narrative hinges on him saving the day, identifying a criminal, and taking him down. Without that he gave someone who was looking for attention exactly what they wanted and didn't listen to advice from experts in the name of content. If you want to continue sperging about Nyanners go ahead but the crux of the situation was whether or not Nux fucked up, and if the person he claims to have gotten arrested is making videos after the fact mocking him then it's easy to see that he didn't actually accomplish anything.

>>29602967
>Before, it was all "Hololive is a black company where the girls can't do anything that they want to do"

They're still a black company. What are you talking about?

>>29604128
This legitimately applies to a lot of things in the entertainment industry. A cartoon like Regular Show is much more bearable than Family Guy

>>29607769
She's like the biggest asmr on nnd with Maco being a close second IIRC?
I'm pretty sure her subd on nnd are higher than her memberships on YT as Noel.

>>29607053
god i love this board

>>29672293
No one gives a shit who exactly took down the doxxer, no one even talked about it. This is pure gaslighting.
>didn't listen to advice from experts in the name of content
This is the important part. He DID listen. He even edited the video accordingly. And what happened next? And by the way, Vshojo NEVER gave us any evidence that they asked Nux not to post the video before he posted it, not a single message. He, however, gave us plenty proving otherwise. They watched it, they greenlit it, they thanked him, and then on Nyanners' command, they tried to bury him instead. This is such a black and white issue, I have no idea how braindead you have to be to side with Vshojo when presented with all the evidence.

Didn't she cheat on her husband? Based if true, fidelity is for cucks

>>29613021
BASED.

>>29602967
Shush Vshilljo. Veibae talks about cum and how it taste while marine just shows the wonders of what a woman (sexiness). You cucks should learn that this is false equivalence

>>29674188
You won't be able to convince a shill, anon.

>>29674216
No, that's Froot, the green one. Although Veibae probably cucked any boyfriends she had, it feels very in-character for her.

>>29674216
Wrong girl and also no

>>29672293
You do realize that the worst thing you can do when someone is preforming a phishing scam in your company name is not make a statement about it, right? I can believe that maybe Nyanners freaked out about her prior dox, assumed the worst, and dragged everyone else into it because that's what she does. However, it does not change that Ironmouse also stated on stream that Vshojo management forbade any of the talents from speaking to Nux to clarify the situation, and more or less instructed them to press the attack. It's rumored that Nyan, Vei, and Silver were the ones who were behind these decisions, since Nyan has sway within the company, and the three not only remained very hostile regarding Nux and the entire incident long after it has ended, but are rumored to have hated him from the start, for reasons unknown to us.

>>29674402
>You won't be able to convince an anti, anon

>>29674188
Nux is a shitter that got what he deserved. Stop defending a retard. Vshojou aint any better but the vast majority of the problem was from his own stupidity.
Point more proven that he got recently arrested.

>>29675139
>he got recently arrested
Hold up what's this about

>>29675139
He wasn't arrested

I hate that everyone's talking about the Nux shit again because it reminds me that there should really be a Redo of Healer parody doujin about them.

>>29675405
It's really baffling to me that so many people cling so tightly to that incident when, in the end, nothing really happened. Nobody actually got hurt, it was just bad optics.

>>29674188
>he DID listen
He didn't lol.

>this fan was legit, they even gave me that swatting video
>The only people who had that unlisted Youtube video and knew where to look were harassment collaborators
>i see no issue with mentioning a random fan reached out to me
>It's not a random fan is my point
>its irrelevant
>this random fan does something to establish credibility, then uses that credibility to feed disinfo to the target.
He was told he was talking to one of the swatters, didn't believe the guy, published the video anyway, and made the situation worse as a result.

>>29674651
Not all phishing scams are handled the same way. The vast majority of them yes, do involve making a public statement so people can be aware, but most phishing scams also only want your personal info to commit theft and nothing more. Once they get that they get the fuck out and don't care what happens, so warning the public is advised. When dealing with people whose goals are serial harassment, swatting, doxxing, and gaining notoriety, you don't give them what they want, and never reveal your hand until you have enough to bring the entire group down at once. Unironically the same tactics used for terrorist cells, and it's basic cybersecurity knowledge. The people being dealt with were after the latter, not the former.

>>29675588
It wasn't really the incident itself, moreso how they showed their true colors, acted like petty schoolgirls, and mercilessly dragged his name and image through the mud, only to backpedal and deliver a half-assed "I'm sorry for disappointing my audience" and, with the exceptions of Zen and Ironmouse, no one publically apologized, despite publicly humiliating him, and told people to fuck off when they asked for one, or if they made up at all. Nux claims they apologized behind the scenes, but, from what I've seen, they still very heavily dislike him, albeit the three troublemakers more than others, and Nux seems to have given up on thinking they ever considered him a friend, and let Muta trash them on their podcast without trying to counter him like he did around when the drama happened.
>TL;DR: If they could treat a supposed "friend" like that, how do you think they treat people who can't protect themselves from their simps?

>>29676031
Don't get me wrong, Nux does a lot of annoying and irresponsible shit (guess that's why they got along so well, huh?) But he didn't deserve what was intended to be a public execution of his reputation, especially with how they tried to emotionally manipulate him with the "We're your friends!" spiel despite those same members being confirmed to have unironically hated him before the drama.

>>29676031
As an actual VShojo watcher: Most of the group didn't like him to begin with. Vei, Nyan, Silver, Mouse, and Snuffy even if she's not VShojo all publicly hated the guy before this. Froot and Hime tolerated him. Only Mel and Zen liked him, and neither was happy with him after this with Mel especially taking it hard. The "backstabbing a friend" is some weird shit that people have made up since then based on the fact that Nux would heavily promote his videos using VShojos without their consent in video thumbnails and the like leading to the appearance that they were closer than they are.

>>29676031
That's what happens when you're a shitter and people finally snap.
It's true, most of the girls, if not all of them, do not like Nux. If not from the start, then over time. He wasn't a friend, and hadn't been for some time.

It wasn't VShojo making a heelturn on Nux for no particular reason. It was the straw that broke the camel's back.

>>29676212
I've never really watched his vids, only his collabs with other people so I wasn't aware of the behind the scenes. Everyone involved came out looking like kids, but Nux was at least willing to try and let the thing go from the clips I've seen, while Vshojo still holds a grudge about it.

Fuck drama, I just want to know how to get their attention.

>>29676621
They don't though. They just never mention him. I've watched plenty of their streams after this happened, and I don't think I've heard a single Nux mention since it happened. Meanwhile Nux's most recent video brings up this event all over again. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IY0FOloj-Y

>>29676692
Simp

>>29676755
Didn't this dude shill Froot hard? Kinda fucked that she ditched him the moment he wasn't useful anymore

>>29676755
I haven't seen their streams since the shit went down, I've just heard of liking anti-Nux tweets and the like from second-hand sources. A nothingburger, I'll admit, but the whole thing was just embarrassing for everyone involved.

Doesn't matter nux reached out to management, Mel and cyber security guy and had cyber dude edit his video within 3 hours and fans got angry at gunrun for saying the video editing was in 30 minutes than 3 hours. Froot talked to nux yesterday before nyanners sperged out on discord who spoke to froot saying it's OK management gave me greenlight. It is already certain that froot told this to nyanners who sperged a day later but why she lied on discord we will never know and why didn't froot reached out to the other members before it got out of control? I heard she was the 1st to apologize like she felt more guilty about it than the others.

>>29676755
Especially since that video is a joke. It's based on people claiming they met him at a con and taking pictures with random people and items claiming that it's a Nux face reveal. The entire premise is a joke, which makes opening the video with actual doxing drama he was involved in to sell the bit double shitty. Man's an insane drama and content whore.

>>29676997
Can't definitively say that never happened because of so much time between then and now but I use Tweetdeck and follow the entire group and haven't ever seen it myself.

>>29676997
I'm in /vsj+/ damn near every day and ever since the final apologies and on-stream debriefs, none of them have said a damn thing about the incident or Nux in general.

Literally just pic related.

>>29676200
You're forgetting all the times Vwhorehouse insulted/mocked chat and bullied smaller chuubas.

>>29677224
>insulted/mocked chat
Ask me how I know you don't watch Twitch streams.
Banter like that between the streamer and their chat is commonplace on Twitch, has been for many years, and it goes both ways.

>>29677116
I posted this >>29676212 and that's actually exactly why I said Mel took it extra hard. Nux claimed that she was present and gave approval for his video. The truth of the matter is that she only set up the group chat everyone conversed in because she had them all added on Discord, and it was definitively proven thanks to her stream schedule that week that the entire time period the meeting took place in she was doing a Patreon meetup in VRC. She didn't say a word the entire time, and he threw her under the bus to imply she approved of everything that happened.

It's literally not the same as vshoujo. Marine does fanservice, the whores at vshoujo do this shit because they think it's "empowering" or some bullshit, literally "no one tells me what to do bitch" tier shit. It's like when feminists take off their bras because they think they're sexist or some shit, you may like tits but if you think it's the same thing as, I don't know, an anime girl showing her tits in some ecchi show, then you're just retarded

I don't give a fuck, I just wish their jannies would stop removing anti threads. If everyone else can get shit on, Vei should too.

dont tell them about the blue one being a con escort that had to suck fat neet cocks for a living

>>29677116
Mouse responded to nyanners discord like how a mother responds if their daughter is hiding something from them. Nyanners just wanted to get permanently rid of nux and others followed her like an idiot, froot feels shy asking other vshojo members to collab with her on a tweet she made before and probably felt too intimidated by bitch mode nyanners like she was with layna asking her what NTR is?

>>29677454
>vshoujo do this shit because they think it's "empowering" or some bullshit, literally "no one tells me what to do bitch" tier shit
You're putting more thought into the way they act than they do.

>>29677454
They do it because they're whores. Empowerment shit is just an excuse for later

>>29677765
Having a history of being a hypocrite never helps nyanners case like the loli drama when doing certain audios in her past. All I know is the group has never been the same it was in 2020 and in 2021 before the nux drama. Women are generally too prideful to admit they did anything wrong especially those representing themselves with their comoany.

>>29677765
Heard he pissed off some people like silvervale making her cry which I have no idea is real or not and appeared to snuffy about the Logan Paul suicide video where he couldn't take no for an answer, and not question their team mate nyanners.vei had beef with him about content and basically this gave every member a reason to get pissed at him and not question if nyanners was BSing or not because they all had a reason to hate him before.

>>29677173
>>29677187
Huh, interesting.
>>29677435
Damn, that sucks.

I guess I can't enjoy watching vshojo as a jew because of their experience with Nux.

>>29670093
>Wants to compare Vshojo to Isagye
Spare them some mercy, anon

>>29607053
>tits
Okay, I downloaded it. She doesn't show her nipples, she has some pasties. She does a lot of roleplaying though. talks about masturbating and her manko

>>29607118
this is what happens if you don't supacha her enough

>>29680176
So her content is the same as veibae?

>>29684369
No, she doesn't talk about getting railed by a leaf or some rando putting a monster dick inside her.

>>29603083
Every time I've opened Vei's stream she's been sharing her opinions and they were always cruel but her chat was always so positive to it all so I thought I was just being a basedboy. Good to know at least someone out there sees it too.

I like both Hololive and Vshojo. Nijisanji is cool too

>>29677187
I feel like most vshojo fans on this board are pretty chill there is just a vocal minority of tribalfag catalogshitters which get the ire of the rest of the board

>>29658527
Stop trying to be technical anon! Can't you see they will literally die if they can't call a woman a whore? Who cares if it involves any real sex? If it makes the dick hard it's just prostitution with less steps!

>>29602967
>Hololive is a black company
yes
>where the girls can't do anything that they want
yes
>Marine's content is literally the same as VShojo's
yes
>What happened?
nothing

>>29602967
>Marine and Vei
Double rape correction

>>29613021
Based and redpilled

>>29606712
Nux is a faggot that got pegged by that bitch FeFe

>>29609645
It's low-T copium

>>29638891
Seems like he touched a nerve. Someone needs cognitive therapy.

>>29676905
Where do you think you are?