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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*>https://playboard.co/en/>http://ikioi-ranking.com/>https://vrabi.ml/>https://www.vstats.jp>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-rankingHololive sites>https://holo.poi.cat/>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html>https://trackholo.live/en/Nijisanji sites>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly>https://twitter.com/2434rankings>https://twitter.com/2434subscriberTwitch>https://sullygnome.com/>https://twitchtracker.com/>https://stats.roki.sh/Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *>145,317: Marine (Hololive)>50,205: Pekora (Hololive)>43,481: Nui (Nijisanji)>32,046: Vox (Nijisanji)>30,378: Subaru (Hololive)>28,232: Miko (Hololive)>24,718: Subaru (Hololive)>23,424: Korone (Hololive)>21,979: Fubuki (Hololive)>19,905: Salome (Nijisanji)>18,988: Fubuki (Hololive)>17,152: Selen (Nijisanji)>14,689: Fauna (Hololive)>11,817: Yashiro (Nijisanji)>11,393: Hal (Neo Porte)>11,344: Koyori (Hololive)>11,245: Ema (VSPO)>11,088: Lize (Nijisanji)>10,738: Towa (Hololive)>10,129: Iroha (Hololive)>10,054: Koyori (Hololive)
>>29615275>>29610231>>29610490
FUCCCKKKK why can't Marine break Suisei's record? It is an eyesore seeing Suisei occupying the No.1 spot.
*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*Here it goes>32,067: Vox (Nijisanji)>15,109: Selen (Nijisanji)>14,476: Fauna (Hololive)>9,282: Mumei (Hololive)>9,185: Ina (Hololive)>8,073: Baelz (Hololive)>7,972: Regis (Hololive)>7,482: Luca (Nijisanji)>7,247: Noir (Hololive)>7,079: Noir (Hololive)>6,647: Elira (Nijisanji)>6,201: Ren (Nijisanji)>6,155: Magni (Hololive)>5,461: Mori (Hololive)
>>29613924Haachama started her first drinking stream literally at midnight during her real birthday when it became legal for her
4h 20m to go until Sana's graduation stream and she only just hit a 5k waiting room. This is going to be a 20k stream.
>>29615614kek
>>29615602>JULY 2022 GOLDS1) Miko (Hololive) - 43,044 - HoloCure2) Subaru (Hololive) - 66,433 - Birthday stream3) AZKi (Hololive) - 74,504 - 3D birthday live4) Tsukasa (Indie) - 41,447 - Streamer league mahjong5) Mayuzumi (Nijisanji) - 57,985 - Meschers off-collab6) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - Drinking talk w/Laplus7) Pekora (Hololive) - 67,440 - DQ11 casino w/Noel8) Salome (Nijisanji) - 37,023 - Unpacking9) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 164,013 - Koshien 2022 draft10) Shion (Hololive) - 48,313 - 1 million subs celebration totsumachi11) Pekora (Hololive) - 61,665 - Clubhouse 51 totsu12) Shiina (Nijisanji) - 49,387 - Niji Koshien practice13) Pekora (Hololive) - 70,402 - Uno collab w/Marine, Botan & Polka14) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 54,165 - Niji Koshien practice15) Natsume (Nijisanji) - 48,192 - 3D debut16) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 70,166 - Niji Koshien practice17) Pekora (Hololive) - 142,833 - 3rd anniversary 3D live18) Mel (Hololive) - 67,290 - 4th anniversary 3D live19) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 62,890 - Niji Koshien practice20) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 80,534 - Niji Koshien practice21) Towa (Hololive) - 69,696 - New outfit reveal22) Gwelu (Nijisanji) - 90,186 - 3D debut23) Luna (Hololive) - 52,218 - New outfit reveal24) Okayu (Hololive) - 64,102 - 3D live25) Ren (Nijisanji) - 90,269 - Debut stream26) Maimoto (Nijisanji) - 57,593 - Niji Koshien practice27) Mayuzumi (Nijisanji) - 109,388 - 600k subs celebration totsumachi28) Mayuzumi (Nijisanji) - 261,168 - Graduation stream29) Leos (Nijisanji) - 153,116 - 3D debut30) Marine (Hololive) - 145,317 - 3D birthday live>PER COMPANY15x: Nijisanji14x: Hololive1x: Indie>PER STREAMER5x: Pekora3x: Mayuzumi2x: Ibrahim, Kuzuha1x: AZKi, Gwelu, Leos, Luna, Maimoto, Marine, Mel, Miko, Natsume, Nijisanji, Okayu, Ren, Salome, Shiina, Shion, Subaru, Towa, Tsukasa
/vt/ vs /sp/ starting soon, come watch Peko put 5 past >de gay>>29607344
>>29615640
>>29615151Honestly, I'm surprised that vtubing is getting bigger and bigger than before. Everyone's numbers are increasing every year, and there's more references of vtubers in animes now. I just watched isekai ojisan and I didn't think they'd reference virtual youtubers. Now, there's actors, actresses and celebrities who watch this kind of stuff like it's normal. They might not watch normal streams, but for big events, they'd watch it. Though it's kinda unfortunate to Anycolor, the more they debut talents with their subpar 3Ds during this time, the more people are starting to compare and it'll bite them in the ass if they don't upgrade it soon. They suck at 3D nowadays
>>29615630I'll make a huge assumption here and say Haachama tried alcohol while living in the aussie basement.Drinking age in Australia is 18 and she was an unsupervised teenager living by herself
>>29615604It's suityan's number one strength, it's like Aqua with Apex.
>>29615537>JULY 2022 GOLDS1) Miko (Hololive) - 43,044 - HoloCure2) Subaru (Hololive) - 66,433 - Birthday stream3) AZKi (Hololive) - 74,504 - 3D birthday live4) Tsukasa (Indie) - 41,447 - Streamer league mahjong5) Mayuzumi (Nijisanji) - 57,985 - Meschers off-collab6) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - Drinking talk w/Laplus7) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - DQ11 casino w/Noel8) Salome (Nijisanji) - 37,023 - Unpacking9) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 164,013 - Koshien 2022 draft10) Shion (Hololive) - 48,313 - 1 million subs celebration totsumachi11) Pekora (Hololive) - 61,665 - Clubhouse 51 totsu12) Shiina (Nijisanji) - 49,387 - Niji Koshien practice13) Pekora (Hololive) - 70,402 - Uno collab w/Marine, Botan & Polka14) Pekora (Hololive) - 52,050 - Pekorone Mario Race15) Natsume (Nijisanji) - 48,192 - 3D debut16) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 70,166 - Niji Koshien practice17) Pekora (Hololive) - 142,833 - 3rd anniversary 3D live18) Mel (Hololive) - 67,290 - 4th anniversary 3D live19) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 62,890 - Niji Koshien practice20) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 80,534 - Niji Koshien practice21) Towa (Hololive) - 69,696 - New outfit reveal22) Gwelu (Nijisanji) - 90,186 - 3D debut23) Luna (Hololive) - 52,218 - New outfit reveal24) Okayu (Hololive) - 64,102 - 3D live25) Ren (Nijisanji) - 90,269 - Debut stream26) Maimoto (Nijisanji) - 57,593 - Niji Koshien practice27) Mayuzumi (Nijisanji) - 109,388 - 600k subs celebration totsumachi28) Mayuzumi (Nijisanji) - 261,168 - Graduation stream29) Leos (Nijisanji) - 124,250 - 3D debut30) Marine (Hololive) - 145,768 - 3D birthday live>PER COMPANY15x: Hololive14x: Nijisanji1x: Indie>PER STREAMER6x: Pekora3x: Mayuzumi2x: Kuzuha1x: AZKi, Gwelu, Ibrahim, Luna, Maimoto, Mel, Miko, Natsume, Nijisanji, Okayu, Ren, Salome, Shiina, Shion, Subaru, Towa, Tsukasa, Marine
Just went through some highlights of Marine bday live. She grabbed Pekora from behind and Pekora instantly backed off. I can hear from her voice that she was afraid. She really dislike dyke-like behaviour huh.
Guerrilla rust stream at 2am, and they burn through three 1k post threads in an hour. How come they love Koyori so much?
>>29615614>EN GOLD SO FAR FOR JULY1. Mumei (Hololive) - 18,378 (I'm on Observation Duty 5 w/Fauna)2. Ina (Hololive) - 22,039 (Return Stream)3. Luca (Nijisanji) - 26,367 (600k sub celebration unarchived karaoke)4. Mumei (Hololive) - 22,338 (HoloCure: Save the Fans)5. Gura (Hololive) - 20,406 (Chatting stream)6. Gura (Hololive) - 32,780 (HoloCure: Save the Fans)7. Kiara (Hololive) - 36,856 (3D Birthday Concert)8. Gura (Hololive) - 19,070 (I am Fish)9. Vox (Nijisanji) - 10,092 (RP ASMR)10. Gura (Hololive) - 19,424 (Youtubers Life 2)11. IRyS (Hololive) - 23,882 (1st Anniversary Celebration)12. Sana (Hololive) - 22,793 (Graduation Announcement)13. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 14,315 (Food Review)14. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 21,552 (Some Chinese Bullshit)15. Fauna (Hololive) - 11,636 (Minecraft)16. Kronii (Hololive) - 16,001 (Dark Deception)17. Vox (Nijisanji) - 13,352 (RP ASMR)18. Selen (Nijisanji) - 18,215 (1st Anniversary Celebration)19. Mumei (Hololive) - 25,551 (Anatomy Review w/Mori and Sana)20. Ina (Hololive) - 12,561 (Minecraft)21. Mumei (Hololive) - 41,318 (VR Chat 3D model debut w/Sana, Kronii, Fauna, Baelz, and IRyS)22. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 13,707 (I'm Back return stream. Although he didn't go anywhere and has been streaming everyday. What a fucking weirdo.)23. Magni (Hololive) - 43,574 (Vtuber Debut)24. Noir (Hololive) - 35,649 (Vtuber Debut)25. Ren (Nijisanji) - 81,593 (Vtuber Debut)26. Ren (Nijisanji) - 14,072 (Vtuber Debut 2.0)27. Gura (Hololive) - 23,093 (RUST w/Fauna and Mumei)28. Mumei (Hololive) - 14,191 (Minecraft)29. Yugo (Nijisanji) - 16,514 (Unarchived Karaoke)30. Vox (Nijisanji) - 32,067 (Drinking Interview w/Some Fag)>GOLD PER COMPANYHololive - 19Nijisanji - 11Others - 0>GOLD PER STREAMER5x: Gura, Mumei3x: Mysta, Vox2x: Ina, Ren1x: Luca, Kiara, IRyS, Sana, Fauna, Kronii, Selen, Magni, Noir, Yugo>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)Mumei: 34Gura: 28Vox: 26Mysta: 23Ren: 16Kiara: 15Ina: 15Luca: 13Mori: 11IRyS: 9Baelz: 9Selen: 8Kronii: 7Fauna: 7Sana: 6Magni: 6Regis: 6Amelia: 5Noir: 5Yugo: 5Uki: 4Shu: 3Axel: 3Aster: 3Petra: 1Fulgur: 1Aia: 1
>>29615718Why even mention anycolor? They were praising Marine, who is a Hololive member.
>>29615740I can believe it, especially when she was being bullied.
You know, in some ways it would be very sad if Sana's graduation got less viewers than her debut.Like, what was the point of your debut if you didn't grow at all? Ypur pure existence only serving as a net negative. It would be kind of depressing.
>>29615742Can Aqua beat Axel or Regis? not in terms of numbers but can she rekt them in game?
>>29615789pekkers hates all homos, regardless of gender.
>>29615824Not everything is about peak viewers my guy.
>>29615792I like gaijin tally better than EN tally, but that means you guys have to track small Taiwanese vtubers as well.
>>29615537>TALLY WITHOUT Z>JULY 2022 GOLDS1) Miko (Hololive) - 43,044 - HoloCure2) Subaru (Hololive) - 66,433 - Birthday stream3) AZKi (Hololive) - 74,504 - 3D birthday live4) Tsukasa (Indie) - 41,447 - Streamer league mahjong5) Mayuzumi (Nijisanji) - 57,985 - Meschers off-collab6) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - Drinking talk w/Laplus7) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - DQ11 casino w/Noel8) Salome (Nijisanji) - 37,023 - Unpacking9) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 164,013 - Koshien 2022 draft10) Shion (Hololive) - 48,313 - 1 million subs celebration totsumachi11) Pekora (Hololive) - 61,665 - Clubhouse 51 totsu12) Shiina (Nijisanji) - 49,387 - Niji Koshien practice13) Pekora (Hololive) - 70,402 - Uno collab w/Marine, Botan & Polka14) Pekora (Hololive) - 52,050 - Pekorone Mario Race15) Natsume (Nijisanji) - 48,192 - 3D debut16) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 70,166 - Niji Koshien practice17) Pekora (Hololive) - 142,833 - 3rd anniversary 3D live18) Mel (Hololive) - 67,290 - 4th anniversary 3D live19) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 62,890 - Niji Koshien practice20) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 80,534 - Niji Koshien practice21) Towa (Hololive) - 69,696 - New outfit reveal22) Gwelu (Nijisanji) - 90,186 - 3D debut23) Luna (Hololive) - 52,218 - New outfit reveal24) Okayu (Hololive) - 64,102 - 3D live25) Ren (Nijisanji) - 90,269 - Debut stream26) Maimoto (Nijisanji) - 57,593 - Niji Koshien practice27) Mayuzumi (Nijisanji) - 109,388 - 600k subs celebration totsumachi28) Mayuzumi (Nijisanji) - 261,168 - Graduation stream29) Leos (Nijisanji) - 124,250 - 3D debut30) Marine (Hololive) - 145,768 - 3D birthday live>PER COMPANY15x: Hololive14x: Nijisanji1x: Indie>PER STREAMER6x: Pekora3x: Mayuzumi2x: Kuzuha1x: AZKi, Gwelu, Ibrahim, Luna, Maimoto, Mel, Miko, Natsume, Nijisanji, Okayu, Ren, Salome, Shiina, Shion, Subaru, Towa, Tsukasa, Marine
>>29615718fuck off nijishiller
>>29615789Nah man, I'm a professional voice analyzer and I could tell that she was embarrassed but she liked it.
>>29615871No wonder she tried to avoid Miko once she found out that Miko had a thing for her.
You can pinpoint the EXACT moment Anya boarded the Rust holobox in her chart.2k was already huge for Anya (but not unprecedented) but it more than DOUBLED her audience merely by some fateful encounters and a shared adventure.Much like Gura and Kaela (which presented her to the english speaking market as an english-capable speaking chuuba), it might permanently incline Anya if she's smart because she just got presented to a 80k strong box as a JP-capable speaking chuuba.
>>29615668It's over Holobros...
>>29615668Nijinigger tally
>>29615602The daily tally and its consequences have been a disaster for the thread.
>>29615873>says this in the numbers threadcope, with the trash who left lesser than the blank slate of her start.
>>29615718I bet you'd hear a lot more from JP celebrities if the Zhang antis weren't there. Just mentioning a Holo might present a career risk to some, for example if you work for Genshin, which has some of the absolute top seiyuus, or another CN gacha.
>>29615803Because more people are watching vtubers. Two celebrities watched Marine, likewise, there's a chance people are gonna watch Niji's 3D too especially when Leos had a 3D debut yesterday. From the POV of a new viewer, they might see niji's 3D as lacking now if they saw Marine's 3D. That kind of idea would be planted to viewers as more time passes, that Holo3D > Niji3D. Kinda unfortunate, but they're still using tech from the 70s for 3D.
>numbers thread peaceful>catalog is full of shitpostersinteresting.
>>29616019Possible ID overlap. Big numbers incoming!
>>29615824Fried Noodle is just a nepotism hire. She doesn't care.
welphttps://www.twitch.tv/zentreyajust showed the 3D model directly and peaked at 12.5k in the first 10 minutes.When Twitch takes 45-60 minutes to even gather everyone for the stream.Wouldn't even take gold for the day since Lilpa had 13.1k, much less challenge Shylily's 26.2k 3D debut from yesterday.
>>29616082again, they noticed marine. not one of them talked about nijisanji. stop shilling your midgets every time someone mentions hololive.
>>29615668Lying Nijinigger
>>29616058The hololive antis in China has more or less died down at this point.
>>29616019>Risu won't wake up early to overlap SanaWhere's the unity holobros?
>>29616019kek
>>29616168>less than half of shylily's debutlol
>>29616168didn't zentreya used to be a dragon, what happened
oh yeah I forgot luxiem is going to appear at animecentral in around 3 hours
>>29615871Nah, she's a bit curious of girls love, but she's afraid of intimacy and touching.It's why she so bluntly stonewalled Kiara, she was a package of everything she was afraid of while in Japan.
>>29616168Absolute ripoff of Asuka outfit.
>>29616207and yet they continue to harass fubuki to this day.
>>29615668So we get another tie since Sana is most likely winning today? Would have been a Holo win if Ibrahim's shitty Z was disqualified like it should have been.
/#/ is declining
>>29616265she is a lot of things anon
>>29616207All it takes is one retarded nigger.
>>29616265wanted to be a cyborg.The new design is of higher quality i guess, but it doesn't look good i think.>>29616297i don't see it
>>29616275don't look at the tags now, the con looks super empty
>>29616349hey man
>>29615907I mean we don't have to, no one is gonna get upset if no one even knows they qualified. and people can always propose additions of obscure streamers if necessary.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPHmidTM_sEGura Minecraft tonight
EN hours begin. Time to remind everyone why council is a failure
>>29616301>they>>29616359Yes. But they have no power over the state or even the corpo. It is just like saying a single redditor can cancel Marvel series.
>>29616468why?
>>29615776>>29615936Based tally anons>>29615668Cringe Nijinigger tally
>>29616468Hi Fungus. Remember to watch Sana's graduation. She will be happy to see you there.
>>29616344Uh............... Nui Koshien, Google Play streams by the heavy hitters and that huge collab on Alice's channel.
>>29616301Could literally just be one guy. With bots it's hard to tell. All the ways to harass Holos that *cant* be easily automated have pretty much disappeared.
>>29616457Sana gradation is only 2 - 3 hours?
are we really gunna have hal schizo sperging out every month now because of zs
3 hours later? An hour earlier would have been perfect
>>29616468In a just world, Kronii and Sana's numbers would have been swapped.
Welcome to Holostar>Mayuzumi kai-kunhttps://www.mangasokuhou.com/?p=360051
>>29616344We decided in the last thread that Z's are disqualified, so even if Sana loses the gold the tie is guaranteed
>>29615668kys
>>29616468hey, in 5 hours council will be succesful again
Would Sana's graduation be live or prerecorded like Coco? Which JP you think would show up if it was live?>Watame>Mel>Polka>Anya>Sora (daisenpai obligation)>Kanata
>>29616633Doubt it would even be as long as Coco's since I doubt she sings or has any 2D component.
>>29616637Are you chinese?
>>29616405>i don't see itFrom the shoulder to the crotch
>>29616658Wait..... dafaq
>>29616721no
First time in this general,can I get a qrd on what gold means and how it's tallied?
>>29616344>An EN who isn't Gura winningLOL
>>29616539>But they have no power over the state or even the corpoAll it takes is one retarded nigger, like the Asus China social media manager that kicked up a fuss and got Asus Taiwan to cancel a partnership already announced with Fubuki
>>29616547>lazy>no one is particularly good at anything>no 1M sub yet after so many months>not a single one have a 10k floor yet>ceded ground to nijiEN girlsDo I need to provide any other explanation?
>>29616756Don't sperg like a kuzuhaschizo, then
>>29616637Hal's case was confusing, but Ibrahim's Z was a blatant rip-off
>>29616765wow anon you are about to start a war by asking that
>>29616430What are the tags anon?
>>29616633coco's was under 2 hours and that had everyone + 3D. sana's will probably be 1-1.5 hours
>29616795this is why nobody like you nijibuddies, btw. all you do is create more niji antis every time you make a post like this.
>>29616807i was just noting that this posting style of hijacking a tally and then samefagging "based" while shitting on the normal tally is the exact same shit we went through that one month
>>29616019Abayo Kaela-chan!I know you indogs love overlapping big streams but this is a graduation were talking about. Hopefully mane-chan will cut off your two ISPs while you're streaming in case you don't stop by yourself.
>>29616795They cant get 1m if yt removed 200k each
>>29616781That time it was not just a single schizo. The entire atmosphere was very anti-hololive, especially Foob and Coco. They hated them. It does not help that Coco actively trying to flame them instead of ignoring them.
>>29616344Salome with google sponsor would take the gold
>>29616765First things first: it carries no meaning outside of this thread for the most part.Every day the highest CCVs are tallied (see >>29615602) and sorted by peak. First place gets called "gold".Streams starting in a day (starting from midnight JST) count for that day and the tally is made 1AM JST the next day, that being the cutting point for a stream to be part with the highest peak of an ongoing stream getting used if it doesn't finish by 1AM
>>29616658Why they are seetheComment DeepLAnonymous 2022/07/29 12:33:17If it's a transfer, it would be a fall of the capital from betrayal, is that ok? ReplyAnonymous 2022/07/29 12:39:41Luna isn't falling out of the capital.Rather, she's using the Niji experience as a springboard to grand success? ReplyAnonymous 2022/07/29 12:44:45I'm talking about holosta, you're not very smart. ReplyAnonymous 2022/07/29 13:49:10It's not about holo or holosta, it's about the point of transfer from niji. ReplyAnonymous 2022/07/29 16:04:33Regardless of what you think, this tree is talking about Niji to Horosta, but don't people say you can't read the air? ReplyAnonymous 2022/07/29 16:47:14You're declaring a loss with your piki piki. ReplyAnonymous 2022/07/29 17:43:16Lewknight, you come out of nowhere and then get all piqued when people point out your mistakes.That's scary. ReplyAnonymous 2022/07/29 12:49:21If Hololive and Holostars were the same size, I'd listen to that story. ReplyAnonymous 12:52:11, 29/07/2010 2022/07/29.Holostar EN is doing well and Holostars seems to be growing lately.Not quite there yet, though.More importantly, please help Yonaguni, the girl you guys lifted up. ReplyAnonymous 2022/07/29 13:00:37For a change, Len is up to 15,000 right now. ReplyAnonymous 2022/07/29 13:10:46Why was Yonaguni so unattractive? ReplyAnonymous 2022/07/29 13:19:04I think it's fair, don't you? ReplyAnonymous 2022/07/29 13:31:53Because they played a game for cunts and put meth on game characters. ReplyAnonymous 2022/07/29 12:43:16You're moving up from a regional city like from Eni to a cosmopolitan cover.Well, Holosta is a suburban bedroom community among them. ReplyAnonymous 2022/07/29 12:45:58It's like being sent to a rural area by yourself, not just a suburb. ReplyAnonymous 2022/07/29 13:08:49More like escaping Japan and moving to the US.But it's like the countryside. ReplyAnonymous 2022/07/29 13:20:07Hachijojima is going to sound like Tokyo. ReplyAnonymous 2022/07/29 14:46:34The one listed is more like a local city...
>>29616765The most watched lives of the day win gold, but bots and Z's are disqualified from counting
>>29616765Basically biggest stream of the day, based on peak CCV.
>>29616589I can sense the desperation in your post Nijikek.
>>29616899I don't even watch niji. EN contents are just stale in general.
>>29616765Gold is the highest CCV (the number you see when streamers are live) by a vtuber on youtube during a specific 24 hour period.
>>29616961It doesn't matter if it is "that time" or if "she was wearing revealing clothes".All it takes is one nigger. China proved they are not a trustworthy market if one retarded nigger can cancel a business partnership between two foreign country companies.
>>29616909> samefaggingYoutube tally anon uses bot to post his bias tally. The one that's samefagging is youtube tally anon.
>>29617115>All it takes is one nigger.I just explained to you it is not.
>>29616647Sana's numbers are exactly as they should be.
>>29616297Talent freedom of stealing other people's work. Junsgang might alert the JOPs regarding this peculiar streamer...
>>29617001what the fuck are they even talking about?Do they expect Mayuzumi to go to Holostars or some dumb shit?>Yonaguniwhat was this supposed to be in Japanese? What does it mean?
Gura is going to get the post graduation numbers, fuck yeah
>>29616019>>29616102>>29616210>>29616219>>29616919It's a funnel stream, niggers
Is this the first graduation that won't be a guaranteed gold? It has a lot of extremely stiff competition. I can't see the big collab on Alice's channel slipping to Sana.
>>29616297I mean now Asuka has Kensuke she doesn't need her suit anymore.
>>29616019Thanks, Ela. Never watched Sana before and have no reason to start today.
>>29616457Post-graduation buff, she might fake cries as well. 30k stream guaranteed!
Quick poll about Zshttp://poal.me/t46gpahttp://poal.me/t46gpahttp://poal.me/t46gpa
>>29617244>Kaela streaming minecraft only for 2 hoursgood joke
Someone admitted two threads ago to shitpost with the tallies to "kill" this general. Just a reminder.
>>29617278>It has a lot of extremely stiff competition.You won't be saying that if it is literally anyone else in EN that's graduating.
>>29616468GO FUNA GO!!!!!
>>29617201>YonaguniIs a reggeton song by Bad bunny
>>29616658>inb4 Mayuzumi becomes Holosta content directorI would laugh my ass off if it happened. Nijifags would unironically have a meltdown of epic proportions though. It’s like Kson joining VWhorejo x 1000
>>29617149Muse Dash wanted Gura to play the game and gave permission. Gura wanted to play the game.One retarded nigger in the pubisher board in China not only refused permisison but retroactively revoked the existing permission and had the streams archived.All it takes is one retarded nigger. It was not "that time". It was not "because of Coco attitude".It could easily be today and because fucking nothing. My company does business with one Africam country.All it took was for one of their local companies to renege on deal and refuse to pay and get the corrupt local government to give weight to the threat and we changed from>25% on signing, 50% on milestone, 100% on deliveryto>100% on signingAgain, all it takes is one nigger.
>>29617335Gura has 4m subs so 30k sounds low for her, she should have more chances of getting gold than Sana with all those buffs.
Advocating to include the Niji and Holo songs sites in the General list>>29608096>>29614644https://www.nijiuta.com/https://www.hololive-songs.com/Reposting the top 10 for Nijis this week10. Chima - phony (192k) Cover9. Luca Kaneshiro - phony (204k) Cover8. Kuzuha - King (208k) Cover7. Noctyx - Stuck In The Abyss (252k) Original6. Chima - Do kuzu (330k) Cover5. Luxiem - Hope in the dark (386k) Original4. Maria Marionette - God-ish (561k) Cover3. Ren Zotto - Blue Sugar (1,057k) Original2. Luxiem - Jazz on the Clock (1,085k) Original1. ILUNA - Let's Get It Started - (1,097k) Original
>>29617377reminder that nijiniggers are falseflagging to prevent the remove of the Z from the tallies
>>29616658Mayuzumi hate idol stuff so that is no way he would join holostar
>>29616909The "normal" tally is criticized for including bots and artificial numbers, so other tallys with a more transparent methodology have emerged
>>29617437I don't think he'd do that. He left Nijisanji specifically because of the idol reps. That would be like Lulu, Gibara or Bora going back to streaming after their graduations and the reasons that they stated for them.
>>29617482Don't try to salvage your shitposting, nigger. (You) are the problem.
>>29617278>Alice's ChannelLiterally who
>>29617278Nijis graduations already lost few golds.>I can't see the big collab on Alice's channel slipping to Sana.Aside from Chinman, who can bring numbers for them? Looking at this I mostly see literal whos.
>>29617408https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YonaguniIt's also an Island near Taiwan.But something tells me that's not what they were talking about.
>>29617364I was ok with ignoring Zs since they weren't that big of a deal and dealing with them would introduce an element of human judgement into the tally, but they're becoming so prevalent at this point it seems necessary to take action.
>>29616658>Welcome to Holostar>Mayuzumi kai-kunThat would be a salacious rrat but I truly doubt. Based on the type of person Mayuzumi seems to be he would 100% disclose to the audience that would be his wish instead of pulling a "never joining a corpo, oh, wait, I just joined one" or "don't want to stream anymore / oh, wait, just redebuted as an indie" switcheroo
>>29617335She got 27k while she was overlapping the Iluna debuts. You always underestimate Gura.
>>29617582You are not fooling anyone, nijinigger
>>29617335When was the last time Gura cried for some real sad shit on stream (emotional over a song or happiness is not sad shit)? It's literally her brand to hide all of that shit and show just the positive.
>>29617582kys nijichink you are not welcome here
>>29616909People will acknowledge what they want. I'd like a normal tally as well without these retarded Zs.
>>29617377>>29617582Nijinigger damage control
>29617634>29617662See? Told you someone is doing it on purpose to "kill" this general.
>>29617598Chinman alone should bring in the 30-35k that they need to snatch the gold from Sana. If that fails, Nui will get 50k on Koshien and the Kuzuha/Salome Google Play streams are wildcards, but the could get 60k+.
>>29617482They are too obvious
>>29617704stop ban evading
>>29617624Rumao
>>29617475Holo songs? AbsolutelyNiji songs? Fuck no.
>>29617519what is more transparent than just reporting the numbers directly from youtube? i remember anons were shitting on people trying to adjust numbers to compensate for the 2020 cull, youtube is fucked and even with all the advantages given to niji holo still destroys themm
>>29617709Chinman loses viewers in collabs anon.
>>29617704They are probably a Discord. Notice how they all replied to me at around the same time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPHmidTM_sEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPHmidTM_sEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPHmidTM_sE
>>29617541That’s why I didn’t say he’d have to join Holostars as a talent, but rather as a content director. I agree the chances are slim to none and that it’d be out of character, I’m just laughing at the shitpost potential. JOP nijifags would unironically go nuclear.
>>29617704Nijibronie falseflagger
>>29617458When the fuck was the Muse Dash incident? I believe that should be last year at least because the atmosphere has changed now even with Foob. The general atmosphere of the population is affecting stuff rather than the other way around. It is like this anywhere. If the population in general in Muttland doesn't support environmental program, there would be no retarded energy policy and retarded paper straws.>All it took was for one of their local companiesThat is not 1 retarded nigger, those are a company of niggers.
>>29617805debuffed chinman is still a lot stronger than sana ever will be.
>>29617796Stop being a falseflagging bitch.
Back to your Discord.
Can I get a quick rundown on how you would rate Marine's overall performance throughout career? I never bothered with numbers, but I want to get a picture of how popular Marine is.
>>29617475>missing Gura and Mori's King cover
>>29617845>content directorYou give him too much credit. Have you not learned cocock's case?
>>29617833We back.
>>29617915No
>>29617709salami and king 60k..best joke in july 2022
>>29617709>the 30-35k that they need to snatch the gold from SanaSana may not be a big deal by any stretch, but judging by the amount of fake sympathy going around fooling people into believing that the fanbase cares about her, anything below 50k sounds like underselling it.
>>29617833Why is Gura streaming, and MC of all things? It's not even August yet so there can't have been a wave of people not renewing memberships to chase some new hotness.
>>29617865So why does Sana work for the more prestigious company if your shitty "chinman (should be China Man since this is Niji we are talking about)" is so great?
>>29617799The best method is to ignore views that appear out of nowhere and disappear (bots)
why are nijifags so butthurt about removing the Z?
Uh, does Miko know what she's doing with this thumbnail? Putting the word HARDCORE over a picture of a loli is kinda...you know...
Is DQ really such a buff that Ema can keep close to 10k for hours?
>>29617964salami and albino tranny been reclining
>>29617934>Reposting the top 10 for Nijis this weekRead Chumbud
>>29618014Hey buddy, go back.
>>29617915She was popular since the start when people were doomposting about Pekora's number. Top 2 of sankisei together with Rushia. Her numbers never dropped.
>>29617845 (Me)Wait I skipped the latter half of your post, nevermind rumao. It’d be hilarious if it was a Gibara / Lulu / Bora situation but I still stand by my assessment that it’s unlikely.
>>29618040yeah you need to go back to your discord nijitranny
>>29617997Kaela guilt trip by grinding so hard for her.
>>29617997Because she has free time. Shes starting to learn Pegora's way, just lacking stamina
>>29618014Because they paid for those bots, and they want them to be counted.
>>29617997>Why would a streamer stream?Geez, I wonder
>>29617915She's a top 5 vtuber in the world in almost every metric
>>29618023kinda nice you meanuuuuuoooooohhhh
>>29618014you have to accept that nijifags aren't the only ones that want less shitpost fuel here
>>29617201Yamien_san is Mayuzumi account> MayYamien_san (kai) follow Holostar , Upproar, Holostar member and yagoo>2 JulyKai announce graduation
>>29617915She'd be over 2 mil by now if her health isn't that bad. Like seriously she's the fastest growing JP before her constant break.
>>29618100>no uYou discordniggers are so funny.
>>29617818>>29617909>>29618040Go back to China, Ling Ling
>>29618014Z = zhangs
the official youtube API doesn't have a way to get waitroom numbers, so, the only way to request them somewhat accurately is by doing the same request that the browser does to update the number and I think I managed to find a reliable wayan upside of this method is that this doesn't need the yt api at all so every retard here can use it and I'll try to make a pastebin with instructions to make it work>whyit's a better way to check for the last value of the waitroom
>>29617915Very popular.
>>29617648yeah she knows that people are here for some fun not to cry
>>29618029Im talking about the "ALL" section here https://www.hololive-songs.com/?order=best
>>29618100Can you fuck off ?
>>29618112>>29618124Gura doesn't like streaming, at least not as Gura. She's just collecting paychecks.
>>29617997If it's anything like with Fauna, she might've have been inspired from what she saw in the ID server. EN server industrialization arc?
>>29618175Won't work, discordfag. Go back.
>>29617997Memberships don't expire on the 1st they expire on the day you originally purchased it.
>>29618223>>29618158so nijifags are allowed to ban evade now?
>>29617938In this case Mayuzumi unironically functioned in the position of content director within Niji though. This isn’t just a “muh talent freedom” thing, the guy was involved directly in organizing and running a metric fuckton of content, not just a morning news show and leddit review.
>>29618027In general? No. But buffs aren't necessarily universal. One streamer's buff is another's debuff (and vice versa).
>>29618240Thats nijien
The problem with Z schizo is that he is not a codemonkey like tallyanon. So all he can do is bark around in this thread.
>>29618240>at least not as Gurathe last time she touched HER account was due to a misclicked like. aside from that its been nearly 2 years
>>29618148IT'S HAPPENING
>>29618158>>29618223>>29618266Holoboard, zhang
this thread is a fucking dumpster fire so far. holy shit.
>>29618200To add to this, she's so popular that some jp schizos think there's some favoritism with Cover going on when it comes to her.
>>29617861Anon, trust is easy to break and the hardest thing to mend because all it takes is one single nigger.I was there back then, chinese bros were talented as fuck, passionate as fuck and china truly seemed to be onboarding the "online community".Notice I'm not saying "Hololive community", chinese were really becoming big contributors of all sorts of memes and OC across many fandoms (anime, vtubers, gacha, 2hu, you name it)Then there was a turning point, which I assume to have been during the Hong Kong protests.All of a sudden it became fashionable for the western virtue signalers to speak against china, and they were met with equal vitriol from the chinese.From that moment on whatever ties that were were broken and, unfortunately, the 99% of the blokes that "just want to play vidya" will pay for the 1% of retards that make the "one nigger" I'm talking about.It is not even just particular to the chinese. Homos (for instance) are met with the same lack of trust and kept equally at arms length because all it takes is one gay nigger.
>>29618023Not like first one was any better
>>29618314why is tallyanon bias for nijisanji though?
>>29618361Ay dios mio la libertad creativa
>>29618148>Yagoo poaching another nijiYagoo please poach all ex-gamers from niji too.
>>29618308None of his graduation streams were ever unique or worth noting.
>>29618198 (me)the browser makes this request like every minute but with this method I can call it pretty much every second (although it seems that it updates ever 3~5 seconds)
>>29618314Nice cope, tally zhang
>>29618305Is this all your small brain can come up, truly a pathetic performance.
>>29618148Ohhhhhh
>>29618344Keep trying, discordfag.
>>29618391wow, 100 days in hardcore minecraft makes you look like THAT?
>>29617997The real reason is that both Mumei and Bae offered the ID members an EN server tour the other day, but Mumei said that Gura was going to show Kaela the server, so she kind of forced her to actually do it.
>>29617915>Can I get a quick rundown on how you would rate Marine's overall performance throughout career?She's a top 3 JP vtuber by any metric you can choose: live audience, video views, musical output, revenue generated, you name it and she's in the top 3.
>>29618430are you ok buddy?
>>29618482Mumei is more shrewd than she lets on.
>>29618148Yagoo , i want Kuzuha
>>29618395What ????????????
>>29618395He counts bots and Z's when deciding on golds. Pekora and Hal were prejudiced in favor of Nijizhanji
>>29618557I don't.
>>29618383I believe it's at least reasonable that Marine gets away with more the more popular she becomes. A year ago I don't believe Cover would've allowed the latest MV to be made in such way. And she'll get away with more next year.
>>29618564Can't read?Why is tallyanon bias for nijisanji?
>>29618564The diacordfags are ESL, good to know.
>>29618424>but with this method I can call it pretty much every secondFor a single stream. If you increase the rate and add other streams you might get rate limited and your IP banned.
if luna is success enough in hololive..i wonder how big is lize in hololive ? pekora level?
>>29618395its well known he's a nijikek and I hope he dies
>>29618469I dont speak chinese
>>29618387This is the cultural crash and the west initiated it. It is not just one guy as you claimed. Just imagine if the Chinks wanted the west to bend the knee, remove all blacks from movies, remove all gays and repeal the gay marriage laws in all the countries. That is how China felt about the west invasion to their culture. It is not just one guy, it is the entire atmosphere and will of the people from both sides.
>>29618552Is all part of the plan anon
>>29617648Last time she almost broke was during a member stream, she was apologizing for not streaming as much and her voice almost gave out. https://youtu.be/ZWf-QkldTQQ?t=7972
>>29618605>and HalThe Hal-Kuzuha thing didn't have anything to do with either Zs or bots. What are you talking about?
>>29618198is it possible to calculate shit like>waiting room vs peak>ccv climbing speed out of waiting rooms>time of peak as a % of total stream time
>>29618557Why would you remove Pekora's only true rival?
they're even more riled up than usual tonight. missing 2 monthly golds in a row has really rattled them.
>>29618638do you have a way to get the waitroom using the API?
Everybody went to sleep, Koro-san is still streaming.Ahhh Home.
>>29618383There probably is, everyone is subconsciously biased towards those who are successful and help them be more successful at their own jobs, even if they're not trying to be.
>>29618395>>29618637>>29618663Back to your discord.>>29618678Good, because I'm talking in english, discordfag.
>>29618723Dont waste your time
>>29618769why?
>>29618760>spamming/flooding
>>29618148Yagoo me ?? Plz adopt me
>>29618395It's easier to just scrape it off a site, post it, and call it a day. Removing Zs is extra work. Unlikely that it has anything to do with bias just apathy. Z doesn't always benefit Niji anyway.
>>29618023Where have you been the last 4 years? Elite Miko is one of, if not the most, based chuuba out there. Super talented, super funny, and doesn't feel any shame in what she likes.
>>29618708The Pekora/Ibrahim one did and he favored Niji
>>29618739>SHE isn't playing somE shitty game from 30 years agoMeh
>>29618824Do tell me. What am I spamming?
>>29618834A fucking leech? No thank you, Yagoo only adopt menheras.
HoloStars, no, Holopro in general needs a creative director who could actually succeed in lore projects. The ones behind Cover right now is retarded. Astel asked to do the train scene and the first thing mane San said is no then it happened. A lot of things could be improved and I am sure that if mayu were to join, they'll be able to utilize the lore very efficiently and interconnected. I think it's not creative difference that made mayu quit, it's more towards the fact that accelerating wouldn't help his vision or dreams of making lore related Vtubing projects a reality. How would you even connect the 9 new Niji members this year on top of ID and KR?
>>29618734Nijiniggers are very desperate for a win. They even altered the August 2021 records. But the /#/ chads were present to fix their lies.
>>29618834Save her .... holobro
>>29618848Stop posting Miko
>>29618881your samefag is too obvious discordtranny...
>>29618848Miko a lolicon too? I'm seriously starting to think every single Hololive member is a lolicon now...
I'd like to see a meta vtuber like Pippa trying to artificially induce a Z by purposefully lagging her stream.
>>29618493Marine is the only top tier all rounder in Hololive. Zatsus, stage shows, original media production, game streams, raw charisma and social skills, etc. Pekora wishes she had comparable breadth of talent but she's a fucking nerd while Marine has set the gold standard for Hololive.
>>29618760This is an American and Hololive board, zhangs are not welcome
>>29618941>no u againGet another one.
>>29618861Yesterday was day of absolute shit games.
>>29618679You are mistaking the "one nigger" part. I agree with you and clearly you and I more or less agree on the cause.The "one nigger" point is that, because of this "cultural crash" (and recent events show it is not just west and china, but much more widespread), every person that feels to be part of the "local army" can decide to win some cookie points by messing with their perceived "enemies".All it takes is one of these niggers to cause immense damage to business relations and even to cause financial losses, even if the rest of the population is not willing to take part and even disapprove of these actions.China is one market. Russia is another market. Japan (and the west) is another market. Trying to conduct business from one of these markets to the other is clearly more hassle than it's worthy SPECIALLY for players that already had problem in the past.
>>29615668Kys>>29615776Thank you for fixing
>>29618963Miko likes any form of human female. As long as she has a moist pussy to lick at with her small tongue, she is happy.
>>29618985Good thing I'm not Chinese then. Right?
>>29618906Lore is just there to lure people in. Maintaining a kayfabe like that is just not possible. Marine kept slipping her age, Ina is not the vessel of cthulu since the start, and the entire holoX are doing their own things instead of doing some world domination shit. If you try to force them it will be shit and the talents can't keep up with it.
>>29618732vrabi seems to get it, but not with a lot of antecedence. Holostats likewise, otherwise you wouldn't be able to see the "waiting room cull"
>>29615776nice
>>29619039Bonus points if she's blonde!
>>29618906>who could actually succeed in lore projects.Please God no! That's how you get Omega and >pic related
>>29619169Dog that lives in a bakery, motherfucker.
>>29615614>32kVox had to flex upon starsEN who almost beat nijimales if it wasnt for that stream in the last hour of the day
>>29619248>King
so besides this Kiara karaoke and Sanas graduation, im assuming holoEN has no streams today
>>29619169tell me you're a plebbit tourist without telling me that you're a plebbit tourist.
Silence? Weird. Where are the diacordfags? What happened? Afraid because you people were called out?
>>29619376https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPHmidTM_sE
>>29619079there's literally no way to get that from the API, the first value that YT sends through the API for the ccv is related to the waitroom but it's not the samedepending on how fast they poll to capture when the stream actually starts, it can be something between 15-30 seconds
>>29615792Nijisanji would be ahead if Gura wasn't part of Hololive
>>29619376Gura 10 PM. Maybe another 1-2 people will stream after that too, who knows.
>>29619418>doesnt collab with Sana>streams immediately after her funeralsasuga sharkchan
>>29619390Nice try, zhang
>>29619376Gura and Ame have a streamKronii and Irys have that stuff for the convention
>>29619502Oh well, I talked too early.
>>29618397And he'll poach another one later this year...but from EN.
>>29619253kek, not the point. My point is that lore is better developed by the streamer and the audience, not some retards in suits sitting in a conference table.Moona lore went from>pic relatedto this >【Original Song】High Tide - Moona Hoshinova【Animated MV】https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stmZAThUl64because she grew it. Subaru went from a MMA coach to a fucking duck on the back of memes and her wits.Haachama went from a tsundere 4 years old genius kindergardener (not kidding, that was her state age for a while) to a split character with either a twin sister, a split personality or a full blown otherwordly being manifesting from her will.Locking a streamer to an elaborate lore is a handicap, not an advantage and (for instance) VShojo, AkioAir, VERSEn and a lot of other companies will soon learn that all the money spent on writing and animating complex lore is money thrown in the trash
Sana waiting room 6.1k
>>29619390I'll be taking hopefully a quick nap to catch this negrita's graduation
>>29619588>HOLO GOLDHOLO GOLD
>>29619563Please no.
>>29618707That one really caught me off guard. More than a year of following and it's first time i heard her seriously apologize for something. Previous SC said that the viewer miss her and chumbud then proceed to spam shit like "take your time" "understand". I bet seeing the support trigger this change in her famous "radio silent" that shitposter keep lumping with a response to StarEN.
>>29617605Scarle Yonaguni from the newest EN batch
>>29619387See >>29619577. The dig on council is silly but the point stays: too complex of a lore is a handicap and gets abandoned as quickly as verbal ticks de aru
>>29619019I think I know where our disagreements are. You are looking at the thing in a business standpoint. I do agree that Cover shouldn't try to enter the Chinese market at this point of time due to the volatile nature and the ties of entertainment industry with propaganda (from both sides) nowadays making it heavily curated/censored. On the other hand, my point was more towards fans' side of things. "The hololive antis in China has more or less died down" was that currently, or even during the chinkout, hololive fans are receptive towards the talents, while the antis has lost their grip towards the narrative as time goes by. Bilibilis are not cracking down on hololive reupload contents anymore and even the Taiwanese are not trying to insert Winnie the Xi into their clips to prevent stealing anymore. One single person wheelbarrowing Fubuki does not change the fact that people can openly like hololive content now.
>>29619479It's just because she doesn't like to tweet
>>29618397I see nijis are jumping ship already, understandable after seeing how much Salome made them seethe
>>29619632You know it's going to happen.She shall be plucked from NIJIEN soon...
>>29619731if only cover had the resources to poach anyone I ever remotely liked from Nijisanji
>>29619563Yeah and it's going to be FulgurHe'll personally show Council how it's done
>>29619806give me his/her name anon, I will make it happen
>>29619577I don't think fluff matters either way. The streamer can use or discard it at their leisure. Ame's just supposed to be a detective but she added all that time travel shit on and barely ever talks about the detective part. Kiara took her lore and completely ran with it. Mori used hers to thinly paper over her real life. Gura ignores hers and doesn't bother to add anything to it.
>>29619684Talking about verbal ticks, if you can stick to it, it will become very endearing peko. Even nanora is getting less and less nowadays, I have no idea because Luna's voice is worse than Kiara so I don't watch her.
>>29618023Leeching whore using clickbaitey thumbnails. Anbribaboo.
>>29619563Pom....
>>29619806>>29619897Exchange Luna for the panda, or even the true bully Honma.
Vox 30K+ ohhhhhhhhh wait ...> SEA primetime ?
>>29619723>On the other hand, my point was more towards fans' side of things.>One single person wheelbarrowing Fubuki does not change the fact that people can openly like hololive content now.I have no disagreement with this mostly because I follow very closely the cosplay scene, and the cosplay scene now is at a very strong point in mainland China, Taiwan and Japan > and dying in the west because of the same "one nigger" problemBut from the business standpoint, which is my general point, is not worthy trying to pursue any rapprochement. And from the "online community" standpoint, unfortunately, this is another one that got destroyed by virtue signalers, like the free software / open source community and the speed running community.Thank fucking God for>in the internet nobody knows you're a dogwhich ended up healing up lots of communities simply by virtue of them keeping pseudonymous or anonymous so nobody knows who the fuck is creating stuff at the other side of the screen
>>29618722A-anon... Apex was his main game and look at the state of that garbage nowadays... Not even Valorant or LOL will make him have the same median as he used to have with Apex... Pekora is alone now, Salmonella could've been a potential candidate but look at her, not being able to reach 20k. Pekora's last stream below 20k was either a few hundred below it, or even before it was a shill stream with Botan and Noel and she got nearly 16k on it.
>>29619986>the true bully Honma.you don't have proofs
>>29620007That's his usual time period and he had Shoto on who is basically their sixth member who turns the gay shit to 11 and their audience eats it up
>>29619884Now that's a rrat.He'll stick with NIJIEN as long as his buddies keep talking him out of graduating.
>>29620064So I guess in the end we do agree, just we are seeing things in different point of views? Gladd to see that.
>>29619981Not the fairy. That one is most likely to be poached by...VShojo instead. The ghost maid will be back in some form and better support.
>>29619981shes inclining in Nijisanji why would she abandon a rising ship for the stagnant waters of holoEN?
Why does this guy always get such low numbers? He's a male and one of the first nijis, so he should be almost kuzuha-tier, but he seems to regularly get mogged by StarsJP.
>>29618557Exchange with Pekora
>>29618557>Both hate gays and lesbosKuzuha and Pekora would make a cute couple!https://youtu.be/VLCkpEUxmxE
>>29620086Bullying is a rrat anyway. Everyone hated Luna even now, except for Fatsuri who was lusting for her.
>>29620189Mumei's latest Minecraft stream got around 1.4x as many CCVs as Pomu's birthday stream.
>>29617997Doesn't she and Kaela has a collab or something ? since Kaela said she will be collabing with someone at the same time as Gura's Minecraft
>>29620192He did a big yabai years ago and hasn't really been forgiven.
>>29620281yes and 8 months ago it wouldve gotten 4-5x as many as pomus birthday stream. the gap is closing slowly anon. Nobody is saying shes holoEN level right now but the rise is happening.
>>29620196Okay deal
>>29620228Luna is Subaru's onahole
>>29619916Pekora managed to make it work because she made it not something tackled at the end of her sentences (which the japanese do by replacing or appending to the copula: da, desu, de gozaru, de aru) but something integral to her "language" an which can appear pretty much anywhere, anytime.
>>29620320Was it a funny yab or a sad unfunny yab?
>>29620320How big? Did he sing Virtual to Live too soon after debut?
>>29620189Yeah, she's working very hard to make sure she isn't buried by the newer waves.
>>29619577Shot in the dark, but anyone know how the anti-hololive, heavy-lore approach is working out for akioair?I vaguely remember they were going to be big on helping talent develop loreI wonder how heavily they lean into kayfabe now that it's been several months
>>29620228Dunno, but Luna seems to be on a roll with collabs lately. Never thought I'd see her with Pekora out of all people.
>>29620362where is Ayame...
>>29617001>You're moving up from a regional city like from Eni to a cosmopolitan cover.>Well, Holosta is a suburban bedroom community among them.lel, nice comparison
>>29620154Yes. It was a matter of mismatched POVs.Wanna know my biggest desire? A return to the pseudonymous internet, where people used screen names instead of their real names and where there were government sponsored PSAs telling people NEVER EVER to disclose any personal information online.It would solve 90% of the current hysterics in the world.
>>29620192Isn't this guy a shameless leech?
>>29620336no it fucking isn't
>>29620336nice rise
I had this thought earlier but forgot about it, it's a numbers question: which JP holo has the least 3D live guest appearances?
The fuck is happening right now im so confused lol
>>29620362Kuzuha come back
>>29620388Neither.He did things that were inappropriate early on his Vtubing career at Nijisanji.
>>29620411>Shot in the dark, but anyone know how the anti-hololive, heavy-lore approach is working out for akioair?Akio Air. They failed miserably and never escaped 2 digits hell to the best of my knowledge.They astroturfed even this very board heavily but, to the best of my knowledge, the only breakout star of theirs is Athena, and mostly because she's a content creator that contributed massively to Haachama lore even writing and singing a theme song.She's wasted there btw, she already had a model and likely signed it off to them. She could EASILY be a good addition for VShojo JP and, unironically, have a better mutual relationship with them than NotRushia and NotCoco, as there would be no bridges to burn to make it happen.
>>29620336She's getting bigger peaks but the floor is the same she'd be at least 3x as successful as she is now if she were in Council
>>29620432They hate each other that's why they sing together
>>29620596Oh, a boring etiquette yab?
>>29620541They have to pump it for the sponsors pls anderstand
>>29618361It looks like she is hanging herself WTF
>>29620541heh
>>29619577>secretly a cowardWhat the fuck
>>29620388Said the equivalent of the "bigger than Jesus" from the Beatles, but with Mito and Kizuna Ai
Marine's going to hit 500k in about 7 hours, is that good enough for her to hit 1 mil in 24?I heard it's harder though these days due to how youtube count now?
>>29620697That would actually be hot but Kson's nightmare 3D wasn't.
>>29620541>Uki sending his underage kpop fans over to OWL castingI'm surprised she retained so much
>>29620751you take that right now!
>>29620743>I heard it's harder though these days due to how youtube count now??
>>29619577>Locking a streamer to an elaborate lore is a handicapIt's a clutch, but they can choose to discard it. Didn't Fauna make a lore video for her mascot that was different to her stated lore?
>>29620411They have lore but don't necessarily really lean into it. Athy is actually a nurse both in lore and irl so she's probably the most kayfabe I guess?t. member to several of them
>>29620814someone on one of the earlier threads mentioned they changed how repeat views are counted
>>29620814In the last couple days people have been speculating that youtube changed the algo in a way that causes vtuber music uploads to grow at a slower rate than before.
How is Vshojo doing these days? Did they get boosted by their new JP superstars debuts?
>>29620874Is this to combat Kpop phone farms?
>>29620375That is just how they normally talk in Pekoland. Also I forgot about Salome, not sure she dropped the desu wa thing already or not.
>>29620933I don't know about the others, but Veibae has been recling hard, I always see her around 8-6k, she used to reach 15k reacting to videos not too long ago
>>29620722>secretly a coward>What the fuckShe very likely received a form to fill saying something like>write about yourselfwith "yourself" meaning "her character" but, instead, she wrong about HER VERY OWN MEATSPACE SELFAt least they reflected that description in her character, with her kuudere demeanor
everyone's growth was just a bunch of coincidences and accidents instead of having anything to do with planning or entertainment value
>>29620474Technically internet is still pseudonymous even in China. People are not disclosing their irl names online. Problem with internet today is that normie are already on board, and it is a commercially viable if not essential commodity, which is why it has to be heavily regulated around the world.
>>29620918>>29620874Weren't they just talking about how the recommending algorithm has change? Not repeated view?
>>29620079Just out of curiosity, where does Pekora stand (CCV wise) in both the Japanese youtube streaming community and overall one (twitch, Nico, etc). The rabbit has been on a tear recently and it's reached a point where getting 30k is more an afterthought than an actual challenge, and honestly aside from the very top streamers like Asmongold, I'm having a hard time thinking of at least 30 streamers who pull better numbers than her currently
>>29620968She can't. "Desuwa" is not a verbal tick, is part of an elaborate speech pattern by a certain social class.Can you imagine a Brit character droppping his Cockney accent mid series, or a medieval character dropping his outdated speech pattern?She's fucked because her whole identity is "desuwa", she's the "desuwa vtuber" now.
>>29621069>everyone's growth was just a bunch of coincidences and accidents instead of having anything to do with planning or entertainment valueIf that is the case then ACCELERATE is a viable strategy. Just dish out as many talents as possible and hope some of them stick.
>>29620933Seems to be about the same. The JP and EN side at this point are almost entirely disconnected.
6700 waiting for Sana with a little under 3 hours to go. 25-35k stream seems likely.
you can't deny hololive needed covid to hit manstream
>>29621082>Technically internet is still pseudonymous even in China.Not in the west, it isn't. Google, Facebook and Twitter started enforcing "real name" all the way back when Google was trying to force the "Google+" meme and merged it into Youtube.When Youtube killed pseudonimity on Youtube in the name of "combating toxic comments" (actually to shill Google+) all other companies started enforcing it and you can unironically get banned from all Google properties (for instance) if you create an account and fills the personal information wrong on purpose.
>>29621144She can do a stream where she actually met real nobility or even tennou heikai himself and suddenly forgot the speech pattern due to how nervous she is. 2m ccv beating Mr Beast for sure.
>>29621069Anon, coompandering is one of the most surefire ways to grow viewership. It's all rigged, and our genitalia are the ones pulling the strings.
>>29620743The difference in count is only speculation so far, although not completely unfounded speculation. JP songs slow down when Asia goes to sleep and pick up again later, but Marine probably still had lots of views stuck in verification. It should comfortably hit 1M within 24 hours, probably around the same time as Set Sail (16-17 hours), or maybe a little slower.
>>29618218the all section doesn't seem to work properly at all at the moment, site def needs to be fixed before there's any point in adding it to the OP
>>29621259Monkeypox already in the planning
>>29621108Pekora is bigger than every Japanese fleshtuber iirc? Jun reclined very hard after he got married.It's actually crazy just how much vtubers dominate the Japanese streaming scene.
>>29621259No. You overestimate the amount of people sitting around doing nothing getting checks from the government because that's what the media showed (because that's what media people and celebrities and government employees were doing). Most people just kept working and living like normal.
>>29621269Google and Facebook in the west are just like government in China. They collect irl info but not necessarily exposing them to the world. You can still use pseudonyms on Facebook and Youtube. Hell vtubers all use pseudonyms.
>>29621392If that was the case then we wouldn't be in a recession now.
>>29621259You can't test the alternative because unless you're Kronii or Ame you can't see other timelines.COVID allowed enabled all sorts of live streaming and for two easily explained reasons1) because of work from home, most countries had to force ISPs to fix their shit because people were teleconferencing and children were being forced to take classes from their computers, also through teleconference software2) people stuck at home the whole day in front of a computer can open a window on the side and watch some funny vids (and live streams) when they get bored and there is no boss shoulder surfing to make sure they're actually workingEven with 2) partially going away with some companies ending work from home, 1) is permanent and some of 2) endures because people got accustomed with their oshi faces.
jesus christ, mr koro. let them go to sleep.
>>29619909Is there any part of gura's lore to ignore? Thought she was just shark girl. Short and sweet Gamers level of lore.I think ame just references the detective part aesthetically. Backgrounds and suchIt's good to have a little lore to set the mood or have something to fall back on, but yeah, it's fluff in the end
>>29621245>25-35k stream seems likely.lol
>>29621392Most people finished their daily work within 2 hours and started doing shits that is unrelated to the company, like watching vtubers. Truly social parasites are the ones that are propping up the entertainment industry.
>>29621471Recessions have nothing to do with labor productivity.
>>29621493She's prepering funnel for Sana.
>>29621471Recessions happened before covid and they'll keep happening long after anyone stops giving a shit about it. Covid helped Hololive the most by tanking a lot of anime productions, that part is undeniable, but it would have eventually got popular regardless. The vtuber technology is like anime that you can actually interact with.
>>29621493There is one screenshot back in the days where Mr Koro bashed her viewer for sleeping instead of watching her finish the game. She is merciless.
>>29621493w-we are used to it...save me
>>29621144They can give her an alt outfit with a split or different personality asan easy out
>>29621540Remember how Gura acted like she was a retarded baby at debut and for the first couple weeks? That was her original plan and she bailed on that pretty quick.
>>29621703>They can give her an alt outfit with a splitYeah, they could even say she took over the body of a fellow vtuber and will start broadcasting as her from that point on> pic related
>>29621569Most people have real jobs and aren't IT workers. They're just overrepresented on the internet. And yes, almost certainly way overrepresented among vtuber fans, but it's still not most people.
why do hags have long ass streams anyways
Kayfabe is the best when the streamers themselves like it. The most successful kayfabe that fits her original character for me is probably La+ with her kusogaki shtick. But even her is dropping the "heed my call" intro because people keep bullying her for that.
>>29621580Could you expand on that?
>>29621843I'm pretty sure the only people who work their entire shift instead of randomly slacking off are people like farmers, bus drivers, nurses and so on.
>>29621939no
>>29621867Their eggs already dried up so they can use the free-up energy to do other things.
>>29622015naruhodo anon-sama
>>29621379Real crazy. For a long time I was hearing that anime was regarded as a kids and late-night otaku thing that japanese normies don't really think about, but there must have been some level of high-level cultural acceptance for vtubers to so easily get acceptedI'm having a hard time picturing an American cartoon going vtuber and interacting with the flesh entertainment media
>>29621939Not in the vtubing numbers thread, it's too much of an offtopic tangent.
>>29622067Space Jam was a thing though.
>>29621982There's a lot of ways to slack off but most don't give you the ability to stop and watch vtuber streams unfortunately. That's why EU hours suck so much, NA people are working.
>>29621108She's beating them all without trying to much, all the while having the YouTube Cull whereas they have the many buffs twitch gives compared to YouTube. I don't know why that retard peaked at 241k last year but besides that, no one in Japan is as great of a performer as Pekora currently is. Their only strength is streaming much much more than her, but if Pekora didn't have all the reps she needed to do as a talent from Hololive, even that would be easy for her to reach.
Are any Niji talents currently scheduled to overlap Sana's graduation? I'm curious given this is the first major EN graduation between the two companies.
>>29621493Soon will be time to wake up, there is no point in going to sleep.
>>29621259I mean, isn't that kind of a given. Hololive wasn't even the 3rd most popular agency/group back in 2017-2018. >Upd8>Nijisanji>.Live>GamebuAll of the above were more popular than Holo. 3 of those had to get taken out by controversy for Hololive to become the "default" #2 in the industry and they were a distant #2 at that to Nijisanji who seemed very much unbeatable just as Hololive looks right now. It then took the following to unseat Nijisanji from it's throne>COVID>Miko nigga viral moment>Korone Eekum Bokum>Asacoco bridging the gap between communities>Lucking out in hiring Sen who very nearly didn't applyAnd this is all while dealing with Aloe's graduation, the chinkout, The Holocaust and permission hell, Capcom almost killing them, etc. THAT is how much had to happen in order to be the top vtuber agency in the industry. Those conditions are never going to happen again. Even Salome's lightning in a bottle moment pattered out and even if she did stabilize to current Pekora level, you still have the rest of the 1st army to deal with. Barring some crazy yab or scandal, I can't even imagine what insane shit it would take for say VSPO or Isegye to unseat Hololive.
>>29622165If Pekora streams any more than now then her throat may be destroyed forever.
>>29622165Wasn't that when Jun joined the CR tourney that had a bunch of vtubers and pros?
>>29622216some blonde dude doing a tokusatsu thing and the iluna pico park collab, at the very least.
>>29622216None of the NijiEN are set to start at the same time or before-but Iluna's 6 POV collab starts 1 hour in
>>29622067I think we need to maintain some perspective here. Pekora's live viewership is literally nothing relative to the scope of japanese entertaiment media. Same goes for her VOD views save for that one song cover that has 17 million views. Even the biggest vtubers don't exist in the same magnitude as "actually popular" entertaiment.
>>29622283iluna pico park collab looks ripe for some of them to entire 3view with the split pov
>>29621245>25k-35kDamn. Dont think that's enough even for cripple gold. Mysta will probably get 50k
>>29622245>I can't even imagine what insane shit it would take for say VSPO or Isegye to unseat Hololive.Yagoo dying and the new CEO decides to go IPO, hololive dies because the investors are retarded
>>29621493Game ended, still 15k people not going to sleep.
>>29621791Anon I think you have the chops to be a holosta content director
>>29620411>anti-hololive, heavy-lorethat seems like a contradiction
>>29622424>Game ended
Marine's live is only ~100k views behind Pekora's even though the latter aired two weeks ago.
>>29622442oh dear
>>29622328I 100% agree, but with a caveat>for nowEven fucking puppets, a thousands of years old form of entertainment, went from>local animators in kids partiesto>local TV for the successful localsto>worldwide stars with name recognition trailing no meatspace character, complete with their own movies, albums, TV shows, cartoons, late night interviews and a personality so distinct people consider them non fictional characters.On the vtuber scene I believe we are right now between the "kids party animators" and "local celebrities" phases. All it takes is ONE breakout character and Suisei, Marine and Pekora are surely flirting with it in Japan, and so is Gura in North America.
>>29622442viewership so low she can actually do a stream like this lol
>>29622442The girls are really inclining this is double her previous numbersNijien as a whole is inclining
hehehe
>>29622561She needs no pity but that's sad
>>29622547>implyingvtubing is like wrestlingits popular enough to border in the niche status but not popular enough to become mainstreamthe individuals might become mainstream but the medium itself will always be niche
>>29619916Kiara and Luna are my favourites from their respective branches. I'm going to guess you hate Risu too?
>>29622535Pekora's got culled hard, and plenty of times even. Nazucucks could certify that much when they tried to put her up against their green whore regarding the numbers on the VOD.
>>29622645I can't take these graphs any more, man.
>>29622645Thats a huge incline from her numbers last month though and raiding is a valid and legitimate tactic
Predictions for Sana's graduation CCVs? Will it come anywhere near Coco's or Rushia's?
>>29622245Damn I still remember the times that nijis were giving breadcrumbs to the holos. From what I see Nijisanji is still barely on the top if you only count JP market, although VSPO is eroding some of that due to fps autism. Japanese are just more receptive towards kayfabe shits in general due to how the local media function. Niji failed to penetrate the oversea market, because even in China it is only a partial success, while hololive are more successful because they focus more on the characters, which overseas viewers are more receptive, instead of events that are very filtering for the oversea markets. Just look at variety shows or even the mahjong challenge that was happening recently by hololive itself, dropping numbers and JOP-only chats.I would say hololive, or vtuber with idol/character focus will go mainstream regardless of COVID. This is mainly because the anime industry has been in the decline for years due to shit contents. Otakus around the world are starving for more entertaining alternatives that are anime-like. This is proven by the fact that the more the country likes anime, the more that country watches vtubers.
>>29622743No, 100k
>>29619079Right after the start of the stream the page shows the peak of the waiting room as viewers, them it will start to decline and incline againThat's how vrabi is showing a V at the beginning
>>29622547Muppets and Sesame street were on broadcast tv at a time when there were fewer channels than today airing less content for every genre, and there was no internet video media. Someone like Gura is almost completely buried under the collective white noise of incidental entertaiment that multiplies at an astronomical rate.
>>29622481>that seems like a contradictionOnly if you look from the EN market perspective. Even Botan's lore is just>Contrary to her sporty appearance, she's a white lion who prefers lazing around.>Despite her typically hands-off attitude, once she has made up her mind she will always follow through to the end.>Her favorite phrase is "Wealth isn't measured with money.That's it. That's the entirety of her lore.Hololive was never really lore heavy outside of Council and even HoloX, despite dabbling on the whole "secret society", only dabbles into it very superficially
>>29622645they literally just unplugged the bots rumao
>>2962274338k at the most if it gets a Z
>>29622673There was a time when wrestling was legit going head to head with Monday Night Football and winning. I doubt vtubing gets to that point for a long time, if ever. But you never know. Maybe EN3 introduces the SCSA of chuubas.
you can't deny nijiEN is slowly inclining as a whole, can't say the same for holoEN's downward spiral since Myth debut. Maybe the accelerate strat is good for retaining interest AND gaining new eyes. Slow and steady
>>2962274350k
>>29622697I don't watch treerat. I will watch Kiara again if she put out german cover Erika.
>>29622645I manage the viewfarm structure Nijisanji is often using, I just tripped on the cables...
>>29622442get woke go broke I guess
>>2962274330-40k and I'm being generousshe really had no impact in the hololive ecosystem
>>29622547I'll be honest vtubing is comparable to how readily kpop is a niche in the west but an accepted medium of entertainment. The whole fubuki interviewing jerod leto reminded me of SNSD getting invited to letterman to perform. It will never be normie friendly but will find a acceptance as a formal medium. Even flesh streaming took a while for regular media to accept it.
Why upd8 died? They have the potential to be the biggest vtuber/idol agency in the world.
>>29622743No at most shes gonna get 50k especially since its pre-recorded
>29622834get some new material
>>29622743No. It would not be anywhere near 490k or 0
>>29622834Agree and with the way things are going Nijien will be able to overtake Holoen in 8-10 years time and dominate the market
>>29622834This >>29622442 is what every nijiEN female's graph should look like if they didn't fuck it up by hiring a suicidal chick, 2 roasties and 2 social rejects who can't even do zatsudan properly. Oh ya not to mention the "vsinger" that is more of a gamer than a singer.
>>29622733None of that is raids.
>>29622673Anon, if vtubing was like wrestling it would bave succeeded beyond any expectations and you and I wouldn't be having this conversation.All-time attendance record for WWE is 101,763.>no, not CCVIN PERSON BUTTS AT THE SEATS, for WrestleMania 32. The CCV (all pay per view or membership on WWE Network) was around 1.6MDon't sell Wrestling short, it's used to be worldwide phenomenon and maybe it still is.
>>29623020Those are raids
Massive respect for Marine and Suisei to get such massive peak CCVs without resorting to Zs. Even more so for Suisei being able to do it with a debuff guest
>>29622743It's going to be in the 80-100k range, possibly higher
>>29622795Yea I think HoloX lore is okay to establish a connection that can be used for skits and stuff, but they just went way fucking overboard with IRyS & Council.
>>29622901Poorly run
>>2962274375k
>>29623055why doesn't anyone ever stick around after a nijiraid?
>>29623055Raids are straight vertical with no instant sharp dip, those are Zs.
>>29622889I wouldn't say that even flesh streaming has been accepted by regular media yet, whenever I see any interaction between a streamer and the normal media, all I see is the regular media seething because they are getting replaced and ALWAYS, in EVERY SINGLE INTERVIEW, the obligated and retarded question: "hehe, how much do you earn playing videogames?". I have never seen anybody asking that question to the TV host, or anybody else, they are just fucking retarded
>>29622442>25mntsThis is just sad. Fnana got groomed by her coworkers.
>>29622834myth>Gura doesn't care about streaming anymore>Mori chained to umg and working more on rm stuff>Kiara started going public again>Ame sent her fans to improve themselveshope>Irys literally dying from stressing her voicecouncil>Mumei has to go back to school>Kronii selling out more on her patreon, doesn't hesitate to jump into the streams of her real friends>Bae pretty much doing the same, even holding meet and greets with fans irl>Sana literally graduating>Fauna is there I guessand just wait till tempus collab ban is lifted
Until the day that vtubers can get 1m ccv regularly for big events, has > 20 streamers that can get 50k ccv floor, >100 with 30k ccv floors, it will never be taken seriously by the world.
I am the only one who liked the Tempus lore and how well it fits with the boys' personalities?
>>29623052Yeah but im comparing it in terms of being mainstream which is the current state of wrestling nowWrestling is still popular but not mainstream which is the same as vtubing popular but not mainstreamAnd remember even with those kinds of ccv which vtubing could never get, wrestling isnt mainstream
>>29623224name a single streaming org that does thatesport channels don't count
>>29623217council is such a flop holy shit
>>29623252Numbers?
>>29622442>I'm sure that there is a huge overlap going on to explain this.>Only Pomu is still on. Oh.
>>29623166because the livers are retarded in using them>raiding with your asmr audience to an fps stream
>>29623217 >Fauna is just there I guess Come on man come up with SOMETHING
>>29623217grim...
>>29623191>how much you earn by just talking to a few guests per week?>how much you earn by just presenting weather forecast?>how much you earn by just reading the news?>how much you earn by sucking cock in hollywood?Why people never ask those questions damn
>>29623252No?The boys don't seem to care about lore stuff much, but yeah, their character lore fit them so much that they still work it into streams naturally.
>>29623297Good lore helps the numbers
>>29623217now that I recall, not-Magni was on the same convention on the same day that Bae was doing rm shilling, he even took pics with other vtubers like Bao and whatnotI wonder if... nah, it can't be
>>29623353Why? Fauna is the most forgettable ENtuber right now.
>>29623217Even with this kind of setup people still tune in to hololive more because spamming streams wont make nijien females entertaining
For those that are expecting/hoping an elaborate show ala Coco graduation for Sana because she was suspiciously away since the 21st, it's not gonna happen.She was most likely on crunch time finishing her obligations instead, considering that a project she was very involved in was just recently released. https://store.steampowered.com/app/1426490/LOST_EPIC/#app_reviews_hashSadly not even with good reception it seems.Negative reviews are mostly in Chinese in a quick glance, though I'm not sure if those are brigading or just that EN/JP reviews are biased due to the people involved.Game is shit based on what I played on the early access, so I'm leaning on the latter.
>>29623252... you're going to have to remind me about the watamelon's tempus lore.Their lore is fine, but there was a comment in /mans/ about how axel was too dumb to realize he's in a party of villains that I prefer
Should I stay awake for Sana? The only interaction she ever had with my oshi has been on Minecraft to serve as a guinea pig, and nothing else https://youtu.be/oIsa5zPyhBI?t=371
>>29623217>and just wait till tempus collab ban is liftedThe whores who already collab with stars jp will do a couple of collabs with stars en and that will be that
Quick reminder HoleEN has over the last 3 months inclined pretty much the equivalent of what NijiENs branch average is.
>>29623273National TV around the world had more ccv than that back in the days. Why can't esports count? They are in the entertainment industry too. Kpop is also a big chunk of entertainment industry right now but ccv is not the main way to calculate their popularity. Song views and concert attendence are.
>>29623297Five man band
>>29623459>using fake numbers to make it look like holoen is incliningholobronies
>>29623444Up to you, it's archived so you can watch the VOD. We're gonna numberfag the hell out of it though.
>>29621493Probably planning to stay up for Sana's graduation.
>>29623395>The boys don't seem to care about lore stuff muchThey keep calling themselves a guild and referring to random shit they've done together as quests and adventures, that's kinda neat I guess
>>29623217Ina Ina Inaaaa....
Looks like Beijing woke up early today. I'm calling the bug exterminator
>>29623459I think it is better to compare them to JP instead of nijiEN. NijiEN should be irrelevant if they didn't fuck up.
>>29622743>RushiasYeah she will get more than 0 at least
>>29623459>julyImpressive
>>29614870this question kind of stood out for me as I was skimming through the previous threads but haachama's parents aren't forcing her to go to college, she's going there on her own and even playing for it herself
>>29623459God damn Niji JP sucks ass. You can see the bit hit they took added in the ID/KR corpse branches and then the fake Salami bounce afterwards.
Are big Vtubers rich or not?Seriously I hate the lack of transparency, some say they are filthy rich some say they struggle.
>>29623217I dont get it? Why do people still tune in to Hololive when Nijisanji is there streaming all the time?
>>29623459>Nijisanji's real competition is fucking HoloID lmao
>>29623587nijien are pretty much irrelevant, don't let the bloated numbers from a seperate market fool you otherwise
>>29623566She draws, you know!
Holy shit , Sushi already picked up almost a quarter of a million views on the Marine showing her new 3D outfit (and Pekora and Noel trying to cover her up) alone
>>29623440Huh, reminds me of Odin SphereLooks pretty good, but I might be biased since I like sidescrolling action games like Grandchase
>>29623629Are you retarded? Any big Vtuber saying they struggle is lying, you can easily figure out how much money they earn from superchats and memberships alone.
Remember when Nijikeks thought that Salome would be the "new normal"?
>>29623676Is he one of the clippers we hate or not?
>>29623629depends on which vtubers you are talking aboutthe only one i know that is rich is reine
>>29623676I wonder how much he earn from just leeching on hololive. Probably better than bottom 10 talents in JP.
>>29623629Marine has spent nearly $1M in 3 MV in the span of 1 year, what do you think?
>>29623629Man any big vtuber who's saying they're not rich is a liar, a thief, or doesn't know how to hire an accountant
>>29623629No Nazumi is broke now. You better donate more and save her.
>>29623716It's the new normal for cringysanji, a fake botted """success""" that died down pretty much immediately
>>29622901Not sure if bait or newfag but I'm one of those guys who finds the history of vtubers very interesting so I'll bite. Upd8 was basically the top vtuber agency being that it was the company that spawned the OG vtuber Kizuna AI (Annoying Orange need not apply) They were pretty much on top of the world. This was a company that at one pint in time was affiliated with Korone, Polka, and Hal's PLs but due to many missteps, most of it their fault, they ultimately fell from grace. The most important ones I think are the following>Isolating Ai from the greater vtuber sphereImagine what Anykara is doing to Salome but worse. >The multiple AI IncidentWhether this was a misunderstanding or them actually trying to replace the person behind Ai, this was ultimately the beginning of the end. People tend to throw the term "Black Company" around but the 4 kings era was without a doubt the age when that term was most applicable. >Mito and the rise of NijisanjiTHis was the nail in Upd8's proverbial coffin. Nijisanji and Iinchou introduced two things in the vtuber sphere that killed Ai. Streaming and Live2D. With streaming, a less scripted form of entertainment, Upd8 failed to adapt and made Ai's content obsolete. And with Live2d, Nijisanji could flood the market with more vtubers, thus saturating it and making themselves synonymous to vtubing (something they tried to repeat in both the EN and ID markets but failed)
>>29623447people like to cope but ame looked pretty exited about their debuts, kinda ignored the first ones but RT'd and commented on day2mori obv on board with everything involving cocks, same goes with baegura litearlly doesn't matter, she doesn't stream anyways, pretty sure she's the only one that will outright ignore them (a net loss for cover)fauna prob will follow guraI can see Ina and Magni doing a drawing collabidk about mumei or her fans, so I can't say anything about themkronii is weird, seems like the kind of person that would do it to mess with her fans and she has done shit like that before, it was pretty weird that she did a male-kronii stream the other day, there was no reason other than...
Why can't any civ4xg game be a buff for any streamers at all?
>>29623725Speed clipper, he never made any clickbait thumbnail or misinforming people on his clips but they often tend to release their clips like a few minutes after the stream is done.
>>29623716Remember when they were saying that she would never have a sub-100k stream?
>>29622889Vtubing as a phenomenon hasn't even matured to the point where it has a shot at being an established genre of entertaiment. Think about its components:- Historically, online platforms have short lifespans- Historically, "content creators", whether youtubers or twitch streamers or general online media personalities have short lifespans- Game streaming is a big liability because publishers can change their minds at any time, depriving streamers of the content they have based themselves around- Even big vtuber corpos don't have the resources to consistently produce tv-like content (studio shows, animation, etc.) if streaming was unexpectedly compromised
>>29623747i get decent 10-50k views from clipping hololive and that was enough for me to quit my full time job and go part time
>>29623676Coomers I-I kneel
>>29623725>high output>high speed>high dedication>clips important stuff>subs JP in EN and EN in JP>high view numbersNo.We criticize the speed over sub-check approach and some shoddy editing (also because of speed), but Sushi's the golden standard.
>>29623775Is that Tazumi and Nazuna's child? H-hot.
>>29623755>Marine has spent nearly $1M in 3 MV in the span of 1 year, what do you think?Does Cover do anything other than leeching money?Mind blowing how every Holo isn't investing on a roommate.
>>29623459>barely stream>their average is greathuh, I do wonder why
>>29623792Damn. EOPs that hate on niji and Riku has no idea why niji is so successful in the first place.
>>29623937>niji>successfulYikes.....
>>29623783>>29623827Still beat memeshark to 1 million subs desuwa
>>29623417wining son becomes cucked son
>>29623922This Unlike cover, nijisanji doesnt do any leeching like selling merch from graduated vtubers or getting a cut from fan made merch
>>29623922Retard deserves to be shot on sight
>>29623838Clippers are the real leeches all along huh. Damn I kinda regret going into a profession. Stable income and great job security sure, but lack the fun and the chance to hit something big like this.
>>29623808Bad stream game
>>29623440Out of the negative reviews made from the past 30 days>6 JP>5 CN>1 KRLanguage support for all three, but only JP audio. Developer is JP too it seemsdoesnt seem like brigading, if it is, its not a well organized one.
>>29623716I called it from the start, she was literally a botting experiment to show the investors what they can get if they pump enough money>one time thing only>lined up perfectly with the opening of their IPO>doesn't interact with other nijis because she knows most of her numbers are fake
>>29623990???? gura got 1 million before salami even debuted lmao
>>29623808The only strategy game that could work would be an RTS, because RTS games have constant action. Slow 4x games or turn based games are just too slow.
>>29623808extremely boring to watch if you don't play and understand the game yourself. Just compare it to shit like Minecraft and Apex, way easier to find entertaining for the average viewer.
>>2962399080% viewerbase loss in 6 weeks lmao. i don't even want to think about her CCVs in another 6 weeks.
>>29624003https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2fGW5Lt9jw
>>29624037yeah you can actually earn a decent amount clipping and if you know which talent to clip and which game to clip then you can earn a lot
>>29623440Looks like a kusoge from the preview.
Pomu is becoming quite successful. 3.2k average nowadays. And her subs are increasing faster than all her genmates.I think she can pass 4k average soon. And maybe next year, she will be 5k average
Don't tell me Kaela is going to overlap Sana graduation
>>29624226Just 18 years to go until she catches up with Gura.
The summer PV is already at half million btw
>>29624226I can see her having an 8k average in 3-4 years Slow and steady wins the race
>>29624135>>29624124If a guy as boring as Arumba could get 100k+ views per episode in Paradox GSG let's play videos back when he gave a shit then surely these games aren't that much of a debuff
>>29624245No she just said on her stream she won't.
>>29624245When has holoID cared about overlap?
>>29623634Cause niji sucks more, very simple
>>29624226This is relying on holoEN not streaming, and EN3 as complacent as Myth and Council.
I seriously think Marine is the strongest holo, her content is just better than pego and goomba
>>29624278wrent those vods?
>>29624226The rest of the nijiEN females I get because they're all fucking rancid but why does Pomu get such shit numbers when she's actually pretty good?
>>29623440SiNiSistar looks infinitely much better than that. Did she really waste her time on that garbage??
>>29624305>This is relying on holoEN not streamingThey never stream.And you are wrong anyway. When they are streaming, she only loses 100 or 200 viewers. It's not very much
>>29623922Cover pays part of it.
>>29624326>Coomer baiting = better content
>>29624326I do too, and she's also the best overall holo streamer in my opinion.
>>29623755>$1MYou're retarded if you believe she spent that much on like 10 minutes of animationEven the super expensive project that was Unison was claimed to be only 10 million yen which is like 80k USD.
>>29624343Those are not "shit numbers" those are huge numbers. Anything over 1k is huge. Even 500 is really big
>>29624278They are a lot more digestible in video form than a live stream format. I actually used to watch NL and Arumba play it back in the day and personally like it, and I am sure people could make a living playing them as a tuber, but it will never generate numbers.
>>29624326Not too hard when you're streaming once a week.
>>29624326She is more versatile. Pekora is more of an entertainer than gamer. She can't aim to save her life. Goomba is only on the top because of cgdct anime girl speaking English. All of them can hold great conversation with chat but that's it. Marine can talk, can draw, can sing and dance.
>>29624400Consider the target audience of Vtubers.
>>29622743Probably only 40k because less and less people watching hololive.Hololive is losing its battle to niji.
>>29624301Why the fuck do they always overlap with big streams?
>>29624343Pomu is the biggest NijiGirl in EN when it comes to ccv and she mostly seems to stream in the Ina slot from what I can see on vrabi.
>>29624483You come from the same Discord as the others?
>>29624343Tried watching pomu once but maybe it was because it was a collab but it felt like they were twitch streamers with anime avatars than vtubers
>>29624426>Anything over 1k is hugeDon't talk to me until your oshi can get 30k peak consistently.
>>29624483Remind me a day where Nijisanji could gather 60k people at 2Am besides during Koshien?
>29624483you do realise that this sort of post just creates more niji antis, right? you're not exactly winning hearts and minds with this mindless, repetitive shitposting.
>>29624554I think you have lost perspective. You can make a full time income with around 500 viewers. That's a huge threshold that very very few people reach. Only like 0.01% of vtubers reach that.
>>29624556graduation
>>29624545Probably because she is not the ugliest.
>>29624572It's from the Discord, don't pay attention.
>>29624602I-I kneel Graduationsanji...
Kaela vs Pomu bait in 3..2..
>>29624572have you seen them post on fb and on other forums?they dont care as long as they shit on the competition
>>29624598I am earning a living with 0ccv, it doesn't mean shit. 1k means s/he is not entertaining enough.
>>29622743I'm thinking 100k
>>29624553Yea you have to stay away from collabs because literally every single other person in nijiEN is fucking dreadful, but Pomu is unironically better than like half of holoEN in my opinion when she's by herself and not talking about the other nijiniggers
>>29624663No, 1k is absolutely huge. You making like $120k a year with that.Pomu is probably making about $250k a year, after Niji's cut
>>29623634When your favorite restaurant is closed you won't suddenly decide to go to 24h toilet and eat their shit as your meal right?
>>296245981000 views for an indie/small corpo is good1000 views in one of the top 3 biggest vtuber corpos is just a failure
So is sana graduation gonna be 3D? a vrchat maybe? Or just a glorified zatsu?Trying to come up with an accurate prediction here, my balls are on the line.Surely cover already has a 3D model for the entire council in a backroom somewhere right? Even chowa had a 3D graduation iirc.
>>29624572>you do realise that this sort of post just creates more niji antis, right?that's the goal
>>29624723>top 3lol
>>29624691>No, 1k is absolutely huge.
>>29624419> was claimed to be only 10 million yen source: revealed to you in a dream> like 10 minutes of animationThis is a stupid take, different projects mean different cost even if they were made by literally the same team. Two music videos of 2 minutes each one can cost more than a whole 24 mins anime episode made by the same people. You have no idea how animation industry works.
>>29624326Marine is better at basically everything compared to the rest.The only thing holding her back is that she is a good person and would rather support them than destroy them.
>tfw YT recommending me vtubers with <1k view VoDs after I started checking on the nijiENWhat does youtube mean by this?
How>>29624723 is Zentreya's number on twitch?
>>29624553>>29624683nta i actually tried to watch her during her metal gear streams and she was mediocre at best back then and this was with a meme game
>>29624793Susan wants you to save them. Do it for her.
>>29624683Literally just tuned into her solo stream right now to check if that was true and she was asking chat if they liked to have their nipples pinched, why did I believe some random anon saying that one of the niji whores wasn't awful?
>>29624756This is a typical number for an excellent vtuberhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diQ6NCbkSuMIf you have over 100, you're doing REALLY well. Only the elite get that much
>>29624691Huge for you maybe, not for this thread.
>>29624770>better at basically everything compared to the rest.Eeeeeh...
>>29624793Wstch 3views, get recommended 3views. Simple as.
>>29624831
>>29624853I guess you only care about the top 10 vtubers and nobody else. I think your mindset is really retarded.
>>29624852>tsunderiaNot clicking that shit.
>>29624735She claims that she can barely move why would it be 3D?Maybe another VRchat chibi stream but that would be stupid because they just did that COPE collab last week.Or she can show off her home3D model like Civia did.
>>29624846>>29624683Now she's literally begging for views and telling people not to leave, this is pathetic... never giving nijisanji a try again
>>29624852>comparing nijisanji to the garbage that is tsunderianijisanji is more popular and actually entertaining that those small corpos
>>29623937But I'm giving them props though??? From a business standpoint, Nijisanji executed some incredibly smart moves that got them to the mountain top. Flooding the market isn't even inherently bad since making your brand synonymous with your medium is the goal. Netflix is(was) synonymous to subscription based streaming service, not because they were showing kino level shows but because they showed many shows that were good enough. They also had Iinchou who is basically Salome but actually a way better entertainer and that's not a slight at Salome either since I view Iinchou very highly. Only current Pekora can probably rival her. Even the move to live2d was a historical moment because it redefined what it meant to be a vtuber and allowed smaller startups like Tsunderia, PC and Kawaii to exist because they sure as hell weren't going to be able to afford Ai's set up. Really, the reason for Nijisanji falling to Hololive isn't even entirely their fault. No one could have predicted that COVID was going to be a thing. If Hololive never existed, the industry would be following the Nijisanji model which would be multiple debuts in a year with CoEd generations.
>>29624913You need to be less tribalistic.
Is Mysta testing his bots with that deleted stream?
>>29624912>I guess you only care about the top 10 vtubers and nobody else.Where do you think you are
>>29624767https://youtu.be/0MPsmwMy6ps
How close is Pippa to the Finana line atm?
>>29624950Nonsense. Actually many of the people in the smaller corpos are better than many of the people in Nijisanji. And vice versa. And many in Nijisanji are better than many in Hololive. And vice versa.
>>29624735Ame said her studio was booked this week, if it was for the graduation or the crunchy expo, no one knows.
>>29624994Who do you think you are fooling, discordfag?
>>29625016>And many in Nijisanji are better than many in HololiveLMAO
>>29624912I care about big streamers and potentially big streamers. Right now the gaming with vtuber skin is rising so I keep an eye on VSPO. Vsinger agencies are on the rise too. I am keeping an eye on all the agencies especially Riot Music and RK music. They have potential to hit it big like Suisei.All those EN react streamers will however be in the runt forever.
>>29624767And the $1M figure wasn't? The average single 20minute episode anime costs around 200k USD anon. Even with all the VA costs and shit.
8k waiting room for sana
>>29624949sure she is you retarded holobronie>>29625016fuck off you retarded holobronie nijisanji is miles ahead of tsunderia or phase connect and the only reason why hololive is "popular" is because they spend so much on advertising which attracts tourists boosting their numbers temporarily
>>29624846Your love of vtubing is still pure and uncorrupted by numberrot, so you have that going for you
>>29625043Pomu is dramatically better than Kiara. Millie has better ASMR than Fauna. Elira is a better singer than GuraThose are some clear examples
>29625097>they spend so much on advertising?????????????
>>29624326Peko is Jordan. She can pull out high numbers consistently and in terms of average she beats out Marine. Marine, on the other hand is Kobe. Her average may not be as high as Peko's, but when she goes nuclear, she's arguably stronger than anyone in Holo.
>>29625097>>29625109Back to the Discord.
>>29625050So you are a sheep and you go with the herd. You only like the popular thing. Typical asian mindset. It's the reason asia invented nothing
>>29624852Someone playing in a minor league is still an elite at their sport. That doesn't mean I won't call them a shitter when compared to the on playing in the big leagues.
>>29625025https://vrabi.net/video/szSK8YdjfR0