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29524010 No.29524010 [Reply] [Original]

How the FUCK are they not as popular as Hololive or Nijisanji?

I just got roped in by Shiina. Finding this group after so long is like having steak and lobster after eating dry crackers for a year. Where the hell were these girls hiding and why aren't they more popular?

If they can successfully keep up what they're doing, is a Hololive 2020 style boom possible?

>> No.29524075

They're pretty good right? I've been telling you, the smaller corpos can be good.

>> No.29524112

>>29524010
My bo...

>> No.29524122

>>29524010
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTs83dy0qbQ

>> No.29524127

>>29524010
good morning pippa

>> No.29524145

>>29524010
they're growing bro, hololive was once small two, if one of the talents gets viral fore some reason, it will boost everyone too.
I know how you feel, I never had so much fun watching livestreams then when watching lumi, shes so fucking great, i wish them all the best

>> No.29524328

>>29524010
Say, how do I land a job as a professional shill like you, phasefag?

>> No.29524384

>>29524010
>PLEASE WATCH MUH 2 VIEW. IM SO COOL BECAUSE I DONT LIKE THE POPULAR THING

>> No.29524402

>>29524010
The market is over-saturated. Quality matter less than name recognition now. Why do people use Chrome still when there are better browsers? Because its Google. Until Cover and Anycolor collapse from their own weight (inevitable thanks to their bad management and archaic Japanese corpo culture), there is no real room for another 4+view corporation.
>VShojo
I mean on Youtube. Two different audiences there. This is the same reason why no Holo has been able to make serious headway on Twitch.

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29524503

oh nonono

phase shill please dont look

>> No.29524566

>>29524503
Wow very impressive amount of dead subs

>> No.29524622

>>29524566
cope

>> No.29524695

It's one year old company which just debuted their second generation. Give it time, they already achieved more than many others did in the same period.

>> No.29524766
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29524766

>>29524010
Why do you think OP? No one in their right mind would watch a Vtuber from a non-jp company.

Or non-jp Indies for that matter.

>> No.29524831

>>29524010
It took nearly 2 years for holos to get near 1k CCV, some of the phase girls are already pretty close and it's literally only been a year.
Just 6 months ago most of them were still 2views and now most are 3views. You have been spoiled by Holo/Niji explosive growth.

>> No.29524947

>>29524010
They don't market themself well. Most people don't even know they exist. I mean, I discovered them like a week ago. Not to mention most of their talent are on Youtube, where is basically impossible to be discovered compared to Twitch. Hololive and Niji are big enough to not need it, in fact Twitch would only stifle their growth, but Phase Connect does need Twitch.

>> No.29524952

>>29524766
They have no issue with permissions, and they can do English karaoke. It's a huge advantage. Seriously I watch Tsunderia, and half the games Ami plays would not be possible in a japanese company.

>> No.29524991

>>29524766
>fucking leafs
Picked the fuck up.

>> No.29525043

>>29524766
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvhXvqERMks
They are a half JP company anon... Their first gen was half JP.

>> No.29525069

>>29524947
How new? I simply do not believe you were on a /vt/ for a year and never decided to check out small corpos.

>> No.29525078
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29525078

>>29524010
i just hope that they pay you for all that shilling.

>> No.29525167

>>29524947
Twitch favors top heavy streamers way more for discoverability, networking might be a little more effective there but leeching from smaller indies sounds very ineffective for growth.

>> No.29525168
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29525168

>>29524010
They were 2views, now 3views. This is the year they become 4views.

>> No.29525595

>>29525069
nta but i have been here since right after Myth debuted, and i have never once looked at any of the smaller corpos outside of niji once.
Don't really see a reason to watch smaller corps, when both hololive and indies are both way more appealing.

>> No.29525834

>>29524947
They run ads on yt as often as it's reasonable. They have permanent thread here and significant presence on both Twitch and Twitter. I'd say it's your fault for ingoring small corpos.

>> No.29525938

>>29525595
So you've been here for years, and you never once watched them. That's kind of bizarre anon. I think you should try them out. They're really good

>> No.29525997

>>29525938
tenma is literally the only good thing in that shitheap

>> No.29526027

>>29524010
Because Niji EN doesn't give them free advertising, unlike they do towards Holostars EN.

>> No.29526037

>>29525997
I completely disagree. Their new generation is exceptional

>> No.29526153

>>29525997
I completely disagree. Their original generation is exceptional.

>> No.29526199

>>29526037
>>29526153
>one is a new IP
the shills even have to follow a script lmao

>> No.29526225

>>29525595
But you don't know if there is a reason since you have no knowledge on the subject. Every company is different. I could spot a difference from a Kawaii stream and a Phase stream from a mile away while they are both different from what you get from Holo or Niji.

>> No.29526269

>>29526153
>>29526037
>one is a old IP
the shills even have to follow a script lmao

>> No.29526350

>>29525938
Honestly, looking at the list from Phaseconnect, the only one i recognize is Pippa because ive seen her often enough on here. But her Channel is literally 90% Holo-leeching.
And Channels like what >>29525043 linked are straight up depressing.

>> No.29526354

>>29524010
This shit doesn't happen overnight, anon. In time this sad girl company will rival the big 3.

>> No.29526399

>>29526350
>is literally 90% Holo-leeching
Why do you lie?

>> No.29526400

>>29524010
Why are you always trying to shill Phase connect and none of the other small corpo?
Why is it never Tsunderia?
Prism Project?
Production Kawaii?
CyberLive?
Idol?
4Vlive?
AkioAIR?

Don’t answer that, I know why and no I will not watch your gremlin rabbit.

>> No.29526437

This marketing attempt is sad

>> No.29526555

>>29526400
>CyberLive
how was the coma anon?

>> No.29526571

>>29524010
Man, I sure like her wonton.
Shame that you guys can't taste it.

>> No.29526710

>>29524010
They are ok and I really like some of them like Shiina, Panko or Lumi but as a corp they are very unprofessional.

>> No.29526714
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29526714

>>29526399

>> No.29526747

>>29524010
Sad girl company

>> No.29526797

>>29526400
Phase Connect is by far the biggest of those and is doing a lot more stuff and generally has more fans in /vt/ than the others you mentioned. CyberLive doesn't even exist anymore.
/pcg/ is usually in the top 5 fastest threads of the board while the others don't even fill one thread per day if they have one at all. It's would be weird if you saw the same amount of IdolCorp threads as Phase Connect ones based on that.

If you want to make a thread for one of those small corpos go ahead instead of waiting for a fan of a different agency to make one for you.
>I know why
You are very irrational, anon.

>> No.29526799

>>29524075
I like how they pander to /here/. It's cute even when it's done clumsily.

>> No.29526827

>>29524402
Anon Anykara just doubled revenue and tripled net profit this year. HoloJP is also doing great.

>> No.29526856

>>29526714
Playing HoloCure every once in a while is not leeching, retard

>> No.29526978

>>29524384
Just give them a shot. I was a diehard hololive watcher, but since discovering Pippa I've been spending more and more time watching these girls.

>> No.29527112

>>29526797
90% of that thread is about the reddit rabbit. And as phase connect top dog, she’s not even the small corpo top dog.
If anything, I’d say that Prism is the bigger out of the small corpos.

>> No.29527140

>>29526714
There are 4 holocure streams and one holocure clip on that screenshot.
Nothing else has anything to do with Holo nor is it pretending to. 5 out of 24 videos isn't 90%. If you go further back it turns into 6 out of 48 and another 4 rows down it would be 6 out of 72 videos.

Filthy liar.

>> No.29527209

I have no idea. The hololive vtubers feel a bit stifling at this point because it feels like they're walking on eggshells and being held hostage about what they can and can't say. At least the EN talent. Been watching the blonde star girl, any other recommendations? One of them is doing the witcher 3 which is fun too.

>> No.29527335

>>29527140
>Nothing else has anything to do with Holo
Factually wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRgweLjJcMM

Don’t forget that she also use hololive in her metatags just like Uto. And she’s also leeching nijisanji in those same metatags.

>> No.29527344

>>29527112
>90% of that thread is about the reddit rabbit
Half the general or more is about gen2 now.
Why lie about something that can be easily disproven?

>> No.29527471

>>29527112
>90% of that thread is about the reddit rabbit.
That isn't true and hasn't been true for a very long time.

> she’s not even the small corpo top dog
>I’d say that Prism is the bigger out of the small corpos
Her average CCV is about 4-5 times higher than what Prism's most subscribed talent (Shiki) gets according to playboard.
None of the Prism girls would even be in the top 5 of Phase in terms of viewership.

Why are you so confidently wrong about everything?

>> No.29527517

>>29524010
I like Uruka. She seems like the only sane one.

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29527545

>>29526978
I hope this is a troll post.

>> No.29527590

>>29527335
Nothing in that screenshot, retard. The video you mentioned was the 6th in 6 out 48.
Don't forget about your 90% claim, you dishonest faggot.

>> No.29527759

>>29527112
>Prism
Why? They were the biggest when gen 3 debuted for sure but Kawaii mogged them at smallcorpobowl and Phase skyrocketed past them in the last couple of months. They are gonna be tsunderia/cyberlive in a year. Screencap this.

>> No.29527794

>>29524010
pipa is a whore and tenma has annoying personality
is there even one vtuber from phase connect worth watching?

>> No.29527916

>>29527794
Shiina

>> No.29528323

>>29527794
What are you looking for? They pretty much all have something going for them.
The next two after Pippa and Tenma are probably Lumi (plays strategy games) and Shiina (more of a classical vtuber than the others) if you wanna go by size.
You have shit-taste, btw.

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29529997

>>29527545
My oshi will still be a holomen forever, but my wayward soul is going down another rabbit hole for now.

>> No.29530230

Phase connect is honestly ok but all these blatant shilling are annoying, not yet a big corpo with big fanbase yet already filled with obnoxious and delusional nigger

>> No.29530354

>>29530230
Could you clarify the rules on when you're allowed to make a thread about something on /vt/?

>> No.29530557

>>29530230
Why does stuff like shilling bother you? I've never understood why people let it bother them so much.

>> No.29530940

>>29524010
Alright, sell me on who I should watch for the GFE experience, preferably someone with a low amount of viewers.

>> No.29530984

>>29524010
Phase Connect will take off. They're recruiting talented people, they cater to a wide range of interests and they seem competently managed.

>> No.29531008

>>29530940
Remi

>> No.29531270

>>29524010
It's only a matter of time, the Hololive monopoly on the west is crumbling this year, and Nijisanji and Vshojo are much more willing to play a unity angle than the walled garden of Hololive.
With Phase taking off, Kawaii's and Tsunderia's next gens coming soon, and Prism now backed by a big player, the small corpos will rise in 2023.

>> No.29531559

>>29530940
Watch Wemi. Wemi LOVE.

>> No.29532036

If I werent at work I would make an effort post shilling each of the talents

>> No.29532063

>>29530940
Remi.

Also PC's ad for their con attendance and meet & greet has just dropped and it's literally more entertaining than it has any right to be. Like, this is legitimately great:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJxV7LX40M4

It's not even whether or not you like Pippa or PC, this is just pure entertainment and SOUL. It's shockingly competent.

>> No.29532301

>>29532063
pippa IS phase connect
she's gonna go so far just look at her

>> No.29532341

It's what Connor said all along.
Being in Hololive grants you an automatic level of success. (Just look at Omega with 120k youtube subscribers.)

>> No.29532538

>>29524010
I heard Shiina makes some good wontons.

>> No.29532572

>>29524010
The assumption that popularity = quality ends up being a self-perpetuating cycle, where people decide not to check out small creators because "if they were good, they wouldn't be small, right?"

>> No.29532748

>>29524010
The phase connect shilling does get annoying but Tenma, Lumi, and Pippa are all really fun streamers

>> No.29532761

>>29532301
Not really, she got support from huge content creators and a rabid fan base but is already stagnating. By the end of Year 2 she probably won't even be one of the top 3 talents in Phase connect.

>> No.29532968

>clicked on a random pipkin vid
made me cringe within a minute
>clicked on a random shisui vid
made me cringe within a minute
>clicked on a random remilia vid
made me cringe within 30s

Is this really the best that small corpos have to offer...? Seriously, anyone who uses a fake voice isn't worth watching in the slightest.

>> No.29533130

>>29532036
Will you make one when you finish your shift?

>> No.29533214

>>29526400
After the implosion of Cyberlive and Tsunderia's drastic downsizing, Phase is (improbably and against all expectations) now one of the biggest English small corpos in terms of simple number of talents with the launch of their two waves - up to 15 talents. Tsunderia dropped from having the most (16) to one of the smallest (6). Although PRISM has had more waves, they're only up to 12 talents. Kawaii has 7. If you're an enthusiast searching for a corporate brand outside of the big Niji/Holo/Vshojo space, Phase is probably the first one that will come up nowadays.

>> No.29533636
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29533636

>>29532063
Pippa has a more fluid and better looking 3d model than most corpos now.
She is also somehow cuter in 3d.

>> No.29533750

>>29533214
I'm glad one of the small companies has competent management. it's amazing how many of them were started by some rich idiot with no idea how to run a business

>> No.29533986

>>29532761
>already stagnating
The last few weeks have been her most successful ones she had so far. Where do people get all this nonsense from?

>> No.29534035

>>29533636
>She is also somehow cuter in 3d
This struck me too and I cannot understand this dark art. How is it even possible is beyond me.

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>>29532968
That's her real voice, anon. If you're cringing at everything than that's most likely because you're repressed, weak and are afraid of having fun. Trust me, I'm an expert.

>> No.29534339

>>29527759
Won't be quite the same fate, Sony bought them. They are however being just as useless as they are with their Japanese vtuber groups.

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>>29533750
>it's amazing how many of them were started by some rich idiot with no idea how to run a business
Pippa's interview with Miao the CEO of the failed EN vtuber agency uwu.tv is a great example for that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zukpiSTr5M

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29534649

>>29526978
do you Phase interns at least get paid for this kinda shitpost? jesus

>> No.29534653

>>29527517
She sounds weird, reminds me of that South Park character with down's syndrome.

>> No.29534687

>>29534649
Yes, in neetbux.

>> No.29534808

>Claim that this thread is a "subtil" Pippa shill thread
>NOOOO PC IS MORE ThAN JUST PIPPA
>thread turns into a Pippa shill thread
Every time.

>> No.29534945

>>29524010
Pippa has been dragging them down with her bullshit. If she never joined they would have twice the viewership

>> No.29535381
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29535381

>>29534808
Pippa is the biggest one and people posting strange rrats about her invites a lot of posts.
But just for you: Bow down to the queen of /vst/ https://files.catbox.moe/gfv6e1.mp4

>> No.29535454

>>29534945
That sounds very unlikely.

>> No.29535494

>>29533986
Her growth has been really slowing down. She hit ~800ccv some weeks ago and and doesn't seem to be able to grow past it (except once by exploiting the algorithm with holocure bait). According to playboard some of her streams from March to May already hit 500-600cv(her average, current ccv). If that's not stagnation I don't know what it is. Meanwhile some of the other girls have been inclining hard for the past two months. At this rate Tenma, Shiina and Lumi are easily going to overtake her.

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29535572

>>29534808
No this is the Michiru shill thread.
the best JP 2view apart of any EN company ever

>> No.29535588

>>29535454
She harshly limited their viewership and basically confined them to being a 3rd rate company like Tsunderia

>> No.29535598

>>29534945
Actually the opposite. if it wasn't for Pippa Phase would have been nothing but a failed 2view company.

>>29526400
Hololive clones. Pippa carried the company by not being one.

>> No.29536226

>>29535598
Absolutely deluded Pippafags

>> No.29536409

>>29526978
this is an amazing shitpost. can't tell if serious or baiting. Either way hilarious. Have a (you)

>> No.29536517

>>29529997
Just don't be a corporate bootlicker this time and check out some other companies and indies, yeah?

>> No.29536813

>>29535588
They came late to the small corpo game and are now the ones leading the pack. Your strange idea where Lia would be running for President of Mongolia right now if it weren't for Pippa is stupid.

>> No.29536872

I still don't know what makes phase connect worth watching other than "big corpo bad" and this thread certainly hasn't helped showcase their good points.

>> No.29537148

No matter how many times you guys shill them we won’t be watching.

>> No.29537190

>>29536872
They don't have any

>> No.29537279

>>29535494
Yes, her peak from a couple of months ago is her new average. That's a good thing and she has been doing really well. Her average and her peaks are increasing.

>Tenma, Shiina and Lumi
Even going with your hypothetical, them growing more doesn't mean that Pippa is growing less.

>> No.29537280

>>29526400
Phaseconnect has a pickme girl in it who’s a 4chan reject that they like now so obviously they have to shill the entire company even tho out of the whole company people only care about Tenma. Not to mention their embarrassing failing JP branch that’s doing even worse than Any male branch you can think of.

>> No.29537433

>>29527112
You know how pathetic you have to be to even remotely think phase is equal to Nijisanji or Hololive hell they’re barely biting at VSPO

>> No.29537454

Save our small corpo/general >>29479738

>> No.29537501

>>29527759
> Kawaii mogged them
Selective memory is one hell of a drug.

>> No.29537561

>>29537454
But yours has Neo, and all talents are ESL as fuck

>> No.29537588

>>29527471
> None of the Prism girls would even be in the top 5 of Phase in terms of viewership.
The only one that gets views are Tenma and Pippa everyone else is useless

>> No.29537693

>>29537454
No

>> No.29537706

>>29524010
Post it

>> No.29537720

>>29534808
remember when they had a new Gen and a JP branch I don’t.

>> No.29537734

>>29537561
ESL is cute. Neo has her charms.

>> No.29537740

>>29537280
>JP branch that’s doing even worse than Any male branch you can think of.
Phase's JP branch is doing better than Tsunderia's male branch. Not that directly comparing EN and JP branches makes a lot of sense.
And the JPs aren't doing that bad. They're just low compared to the ENs. If you compare them to other small corpo members they'd still be slightly above average in size.

>> No.29537906

>>29537740
> Phase's JP branch is doing better than Tsunderia's male branch.
Sure it is everything in phase is convenient doing well when it needs to be until you actually watch them and it’s just as pathetic as you expect.

>> No.29537941

>>29536872
you like girls that act kinda edgy but not that edgy and dont act like complete cock starved whores like twitch vtubers? There you go

>> No.29537990

>>29537588
Lumi, Shiina, Erina are easily above Shiki. Even Lia, the smallest EN Gen 1 has a higher average than her.
Phase has its standouts, but their median and average are also very good.

>> No.29537991

In case anyone's wondering: OP's not a shill but an anti trying to get the board to hate PC by spamming threads.

>> No.29538129

>>29525078
>>29527545
>>29534649
>>29536409
>hurr durr masaka u trolls :DD

>> No.29538290

>>29537990
> Lumi, Shiina, Erina are easily above Shiki.
“If I believe hard enough that’ll make it become true!” Then the next 5 posts are gonna be about Tenma and you pretty much have to force people to talk about anyone else.

>> No.29538463

>>29537501
Maybe I'm missing something but wasn't Lua the most subscribed and watched during their post-debuts? Mogged is a strong word since the difference wasn't that noticable but If I remember correctly it went something like Lua>Non>Neena>Lisa>Sara in terms of popularity. Cyberlive debuted their gen l months later so I wouldn't count them but if we count them in then I guess they are the winners since no one from those 4 gens comes close to Emma. Now I'm sad. I gotta go save chapipi anons.

>> No.29538529

>>29537906
Those who stream on Twitch:
Michiru Phase: https://twitchtracker.com/michiru_shisui
Iori Phase: https://twitchtracker.com/iorihakushika
Kazune Tsun: https://twitchtracker.com/tetsuyakazune

Nasa (Phase), Tomo (Tsun) and Nen (Tsun) are harder to compare since they are on Youtube, but are too small for Playboard. Subs wise it would be Tomo > Nasa > Nen.

>> No.29538754

>>29538463
“Cyberconnect” is just Emma hell it’s barely even a group.

>> No.29538772

>>29533636
>>29534035
>She is also somehow cuter in 3d.
Is because you get to see how small see is.

>> No.29538899

>>29538290
>Then the next 5 posts are gonna be about Tenma
Tenma is one of the least discussed Phase chuubas on /vt/ for some strange reason, so good job picking her.

But since you're asking for sources in your own deluded way:
Lumi: https://twitchtracker.com/kanekolumi/streams
Lia (smallest of EN gen1): https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCg7sW-h1PUowdiR5K4HlBew
Uruka: https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCjXJYPsKxoJyc-1RPB6dSyw
Shiki: https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCswvd6_YWmd6riRk-8oT-sA

For the gen2 ones you would have to look at vod-views since they aren't properly tracked on Playboard yet. Why are you so mad over being wrong?

>> No.29538942

>>29533636
> more fluid and better looking 3d model than most corpos now.
LMAOO you guys really will just say anything to gas them up as much as possible leeching of Big corpo names to boost up a 2view group is next level pathetic.

>> No.29539189

>>29537279
>in almost 5 months her peak ccv increased by a mere 200ccv
>this is fine
Sure thing anon

>doesn't mean that Pippa is growing less.
It's called growth rate. Pippa's growth rate is declining. If her growth rate from the beginning of the year till April had remained constant she'd be a 4view by now.

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>>29524010
>how the FUCK are they not as popular as Hololive or Nijisanji
>got roped in by Shiina
>reddit spacing
Well for starters neither Holo or Niji employed some menhera /here/chuuba who does gfe for lonely fags who then goes on damage control when she fucks up via "my boyfriend", only to rebrand herself and do the same old gfe for some more lonely virgin money from newfags

>> No.29539266

>>29533636
She mentioned before that she blew her budget on investing in 3D

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>>29527545

>> No.29539326

>>29539221
Rushia.

>> No.29539432

>>29538899
So they a little have more lives views but barely any views on the videos? How does that work?

>> No.29539431

>>29539326
Rushia went crazy AFTER being picked up by cover. If anything, vshojo is retarded for taking her if you want to use the same argument against phase connect.

>> No.29539437

>>29536872
A wide selection of talented girls, filling many niches that other companies don't and supposedly the only small corpo with decent management.
Nobody can write a magical sentence for you that will perfectly explain if you're going to like or dislike something.

>> No.29539458

>>29539326
Holo fired her though

>> No.29539493

>>29538942
Have you looked at it? It's pretty good.

>> No.29539577

>>29539326
Rrats are nice and all, but I need to see some proof other than an easily misinterpretable dm. That menhera even got herself fired just to prove her innocence.

>> No.29539692

>>29539437
>filling many niches that other companies don't
Is 4chan shill and not a 4chan shill considered a niche now?

>> No.29539793

>>29539432
The small corpos with high subscribes mostly gained them from spamming shorts 6-12 months ago when the youtube algorithm was going hard for them.
They have a bunch of short videos that went viral pulling their average up, but the people who subscribed for shorts don't really watch streams, so their CCV and streaming vod views are actually lower even with 12 times the subs.

If you want to compare streams:
https://www.youtube.com/c/ShikiMiyoshino/videos?view=2&live_view=503
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnJNNk45O1QYS2oMRYFKSyw/videos?view=2&live_view=503
https://www.youtube.com/c/PipkinPippa/videos?view=2&live_view=503

>> No.29539824

>>29539189
I think some of pippas viewership or incline was swallowed by all the new generations of vtubers that came out recently from both hololive, nijisanji, and phase connects gen 2 itself.

Pippa will likely incline again to consistent 1k ccv by middle of the year next year.

It's surprising she's maintained a above an average of 500ccv with the generation 2 of phase connect canibilizing her viewership

>> No.29539862

>>29539692
/here/ is a niche and Fishman knows it works.

>> No.29539957

>>29539431
Hello?
She has always been crazy, from her PL track record.
After reading about stuff related to her past "boy friends" and MafuMafu, even way before she got fired, I already believe she is real menhera.

>> No.29540010

>>29539692
I was more thinking along the lines of strategy game playing, meta and interview content, alcoholic raging lolibaba, mentally special daughter-wife-mistress and stuff like that.
But having someone who is immersed in image boards is fine too.

>> No.29540083

>>29526350
Michiru streams exclusively on twitcb pretty much where she gets loyal 120ish japanese salarymen

>> No.29540159
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>>29524010
M O L D
O
L
D

>> No.29540309

>>29539862
There are /here/ chuubas in every small corpo. Phase isn't special in this regard. I'd argue that Phase's biggest strength is diversity in it's talents, similar to Prism.
>>29539824
It really is amazing that Pippa can hold that viewership consistently. I know Miori has higher highs but she's nowhere near the consistency of Pippa. Wish I was a Pippcuck so I can enjoy her growth but she just ain't for me.

>> No.29540370

>>29539862
> Fishman knows it works.
If only fishman knew how Jo branches worked.

>> No.29540421

>>29539824
Gen2 didn't cannibalize the other gen1 or invaders girls, as a matter of fact Tenma and Lumi are doing better than ever. Seems to me more like Pippas approach of trying to cater to everyone is starting to fail.

>> No.29540694

Phase Connect Gen 2 is unironically more talented than NijiEN's new wave, Nijisanji should honestly be ashamed that they got mogged in recruiting by a small corpo

>> No.29540719

>>29540010
How is any of that different from other corpos? I could go to Tsunderia and say one likes retro, one likes music, one likes shooters, one likes Zatsu, one likes rhythm. I could go to Prism and say Kamen rider, Music, Tomboy, Horror, little sister, lewd, over the top, motherly, ponkotsu. What exactly is the big difference here also you’re saying that companies with over 50 people don’t have different niches and Phase is somehow the only one with barely 20. This has to be a meme right Like the soul vs soulless thing or chemistry thing? Like I’m starting to think even you guys don’t believe what you’re saying.

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>>29525595
>i have been here since right after Myth debuted

the very embodiment of /vt/

>> No.29540875

>>29540694
>looks at Gen 2
>basic games anyone plays
>maybe one music related thing
Oh wow that’s so unique and talented man Minecraft I’ve never seen anyone play that getting over it too? HOLY SHIT THEYRE INCREDIBLY!

>> No.29540890

>>29540719
Amiya from Tsunderia is pretty great if you're looking for a retro gamer, you're right.
There are a shit ton of vtubers who like music or *very popular genre of games", though. That's the difference.

>also you’re saying that
Meds.

>> No.29540899

>>29540421
Urukas and lias ccv went down and Pippa did say on a stream fuck you to the fans who were publicly stating that they were moving on from lia or uruka because new girls came out.

Also usually any corpos last gen before the newest usually drops in ccv when a new gen is debuted. Lia also did a rebrand shortly before gen 2 came as people got her and lumi confused

>> No.29540989

>>29540875
I meant talented at being entertaining, which helps when that's literally your job

>> No.29540996

>>29540694
>is unironically more talented than NijiEN's new wave
To be fair that's a pretty low bar, I honestly couldn't name a single small corpo gen that is less talented than those failures, yes that even includes cyberlive (rip)

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29541039

MEEMAW LOVE

>> No.29541156

>>29539221
Fauna....

>> No.29541158

>>29540890
> There are a shit ton of vtubers who like music or *very popular genre of games", though. That's the difference.
So what’s the niche in Phase then I’m hearing “unique” “talented” and I’m seeing basic white bread stuff that all Vtubers do? Are they doing heart surgery on stream or something did I miss those streams?

>> No.29541186

>>29537693
Please

>> No.29541259

>>29541039
Her streams are so comfy

>> No.29541314

>>29540989
If the Niji’s weren’t entertaining then why do their past lives have more subs and views alone than all of phase combined? Why did they trend at number one on Twitter? I get not liking popular thing but come on now this is getting sad.

>> No.29541546

>>29526571
I've seen a few post here and there about wonton. What do they mean? I need to know.

>> No.29541625

>>29541546
Shiina's past life talked about wontons on stream and during it mentioned her boyfriend.

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>>29541156
Fauna was open about it and didn't try to damage control and most importantly she didn't do gfe

>> No.29541832

>>29526710
Thats why I love them, they're not UwU seiso. They feel just human enough that I don't see them as anime women that are trying to appeal to everyone so they can fill their donation quota for the month.

>> No.29542063

>>29527209
I like remi she's cute and funny. If you want a more chill stream uruka is the go to

>> No.29542075

>>29540421
Lia and Uruka had pretty mediocre numbers for the longest time now. Don't blame Gen2 for them not doing better. Also, comparing Lia, who was barely a 3view before gen2 debuted and continues to be barely a 3view afterwards, to Pippa, who used to head and shoulders above the other girls, is fucking retarded.

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>>29536872
Hope you like good singers:
https://streamable.com/a432gn

Shiina is super talented in general, being an artist on top of a singer. I hate NijiEN's stupid recruiting team for not picking her just because she didn't have big numbers.

>> No.29542258

>>29541259
i miss shiina...

>> No.29542264

>>29534653
Uruka is just filipino (?) And slightly autistic. Once you get past that she's funny.

>> No.29542395

>>29536872
I watch a lot of Holo content and honestly theres just good talent in Phase Connect.

Big corpo good
Small corpo good too

>> No.29542406

>>29542264
Where did you get the idea she's flip?

>> No.29542414

>>29541314
>If the Niji’s weren’t entertaining then why do their past lives have more subs and views alone than all of phase combined?
Actual NijiEN staff mindset. They obviously skipped over a lot of good talent to pursue big numbers. That's not to say Iluna don't have any talent, I disagree with the common notion /vt/ that Iluna is a failed or talentless wave, but they could have done better with a few of them, particularly Aster who has negative charisma.
>Why did they trend at number one on Twitter?
Nijisanji has a lot of power on Twitter, having their own Twitter topic.

>> No.29542426

>>29542124
Maria is already the singer in EN

>> No.29542471

>>29524112
>>29532538

>> No.29542505

>>29542124
That was decent but it didn't blow me out of the water, unlike Gura's cover of creep which felt more powerful.

>> No.29542507

>>29542426
>implying you should only have one good singer per wave

>> No.29542573

>>29542124
do you have the rest of that stream archived somewhere anon? i would be infinitely grateful

>> No.29542590

>>29542414
Only 3 of them had big numbers before from what I can see. I just don’t get the idea of thinking just because someone went into a 2view company that means they’re underrated. You can admit when a Vtuber is just a Vtuber.

>> No.29542636

>>29542573
Yep >>29474857

>> No.29542674

>>29542636
thank you very much anon

>> No.29542910

>>29524010
They get dogshit numbers at the end of the day. 100 ccv or so? That's pretty much lower than every other Nijinigger out there. The only people who would watch garbage with this little views are desperate groomers with no concern about entertainment at all. Why waste your time with the worst when you can watch the best vtubers in the world with Hololive?

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>>29542910
>BIG NUMBERS BETTER
Go away faggot

>> No.29543221

>>29542910
you're a shilling nijinigger and everybody in this thread knows it

>> No.29543259

>>29542962
Jealousy is an ugly thing, anon.
At the end of the day, no matter how you spin it, there is a reason that certain vtubers and corporations are at the top. And that's because the quality of their product is superior to the others in the field, hence why they get more viewers, sell more merch, have bigger live performances, etc.

The first step to improving yourself is recognizing that you need improvement.

>> No.29543405

>>29542910
Why don't you check the actual numbers, you braindead numbernigger.

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>>29524010
The /here/ pandering filters me hard. There's dozens small corpos I'd rather check out instead.

>> No.29543496

>>29543259
Why are you asking me to improve myself? I'm not a vtuber, I'm just a watcher. I don't buy merch and big performances are nice but I'd get burned out on them quickly if every vtuber I watched did them. I watch smaller corpo and indie vtubers because I like them and they offer me things that Nijisanji and Hololive do not. There is no Amiya or Remilia equivalent in Nijisanji or Hololive, which is why I watch them.

>> No.29543497

>>29543466
its only pippa though

>> No.29543575

>>29543497
Lumi getting away with it once again. How does she do it?

>>29543496
Because you need it.

>> No.29543662

>>29542910
Hololive was not a success until their third gen of the jp branch before that they were very middling. Also for the most part they haven't had a generation as good as that one even if you weigh them against hololive myth as a hole

>> No.29543704

>>29543575
>Because you need it.
Explain

>> No.29543738

>>29543497
The blonde one too. Like I said I'd rather check out some other corpo.instead.

>> No.29543762

>>29543259
Funny take. Pippa beat Finana twice in a week in ccvs few weeks ago and made more in SC that half of nijien girls during June.

>> No.29543985

>>29543704
You are broken inside, anon. You need to get help.

>> No.29544066

>>29543985
stop projecting, where is this shit even coming from fucking hell

>> No.29544119

>>29543985
I don't get how you came to that conclusion just because I enjoy smaller vtubers

>> No.29544371

>>29542406 >>29542264
Idk I have a strong feeling about this one tho. She's a very pale mandarin speaking woman. (She does hand cam vids sometimes)

>> No.29544475

>>29544371
She's obvious Chinese studying in US.

>> No.29544706

they arent there yet but phase reminds me of the early days of hololive when they were still growing and the /jp/ thread wasnt trash yet
they need a couple breakout stars to get out of the small corpo/indie sphere and no the yabbit isnt enough for that

>> No.29545098

>>29542264
uruka is 100% taiwanese. sings jay chou, cant read simplified mandarin but can read traditional mandarin

>> No.29545216

Well, if I had to say, they've been putting some real effort on the grind for success. Attending cons for visibility, collabing with unorthodox people to pull new blood in the vtubing market, diversifying content and platforms.
But the big 3 fans are comfy where they are. Hell even HoloEN fans that have been absolutely starved for content these last few months (the market every small corpo and nijiEN has been trying to sink their teeth into), just started watching Tempus and HoloID instead.

>> No.29547566

>>29543575
lumi isn't as blatant as the rabbit. I'm not saying she's really subtle but pippa openly talking about vt on stream overshadows whatever lumi's doing

>> No.29547686

>>29533636
>Got 3D before Lazulight

>> No.29547962

>>29532968
>cringing at michiru
Yeah kill yourself.

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>>29524622
Do I need to bring up gen 1 and Invaders as well or would be a war crime against Israel?

>> No.29548661

>>29524503
arent your jewchuubas all literal 2views now?
phase has 3 that are over 500ccv

>> No.29548954

>>29548420
>>29548661
please don't pick on my jewbas
they are all trying their hardest :(
help us save them

>> No.29549335

>>29547566
Why do faggots get so triggered by chuubas mentioning /here/? This isn't some secret club. Everyone knows about it. I know it's contrarian retardation, but you still have to be a self-loathing cuckold to get filtered by a vtuber pandering to a place you spend so much time on.

>> No.29549406

>>29549335
If you weren't such a newfaggot you'd know that everyone hid their power level until around 2014 when r/4chan types said it was cool to make 4chan a bigger deal than it comfortably was.

>> No.29551232

>>29524010
I skimmed /pcg/ and saw that phase collabs with males and fans don't have an issue with that?

Fucking yikes, that just about tells everything I need to know about this corporation and why they'll never succeed.

>> No.29551360

>>29551232
It's up to the individual talent; most of them don't collab with males on a regular basis, so if you're into getting cucked you should go watch Nijisanji.

>> No.29551367

>>29549335
This place is defined by extreme self-hatred.

>> No.29551503

>>29549335
People use vtuber as escapism, they don’t want to be reminded of politics, or meta-discussion of other vtubers or of this place.
How hard is it to just act as a cute anime girl from a slice of life anime?

>> No.29551661

>>29532063
how low is the bar for you when it comes to entertainment
this is one minute of improv

>> No.29551792

>>29551661
>how low is the bar for you when it comes to entertainment
I watch vtubers.

>> No.29551882

>>29551503
>People use vtuber as escapism, they don’t want to be reminded of politics
i get that
>or meta-discussion of other vtubers or of this place
but how does this not count? Me coming here in the first place is and shitposting is already an escape. of course it makes sense to like some pandering to some already escapist behaviors

>> No.29551962

>>29551503
I don't think there is any company that emulates slice of life parody as close as PC.

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>>29524503
That's great, now compare that to the numbers that actually matter numbernigger. Idol is a scam corporation waiting to fall apart.

>> No.29552062

>>29526400
Simple reason: PCfags are overrepresented /here/ and they can't help themselves

>> No.29552099

>>29548954
They don't deserved to be saved.

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29552100

Imagine seething about arbitrary things constantly instead of just watching Phase Connect and being happy

>> No.29552414

Anyone in Phase have a decent wonton recipe? Asking for a friend.

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>>29552030
airi...

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29553539

>>29553398
FAQING CUTE WOLF

>> No.29553770

>>29552099
why not :( they all have their own quirks

>> No.29554154

>>29526799
Pippa, Lisa, a small smattering of other girls. Small corpos don't pander to /here/, each company has one or two girls are are legitimately /here/.

>>29524122
Tenma is, and I will fucking fight to the death on this hill, one of if not the funniest chooba in the game right now.

>> No.29554290

>>29553398
>>29553539
They should collab.

>> No.29554662

>>29524010
>I just got roped in by Shiina
stopped reading right there your a wanton girl fan and cuck yikes.

>> No.29554758

>>29524010
The moment they become as popular as Nijisanji/Hololive is the moment I stop watching them.

>> No.29555425

>>29541644
>most importantly she didn't do gfe
But she does though or do you literally ignore all her asmr streams most importantly however is fauna is single and not in a relationship so its all good and just rrats anyway.

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