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>Planned Vote
>>29261993

>Vote Results
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CURRENT PROMPTS
Feel free to submit your own prompts to inspire others!

>Clothing
What does the average Joe wear daily? Any formal dress impacted by tradition/culture? Is fashion being split by class or regional differences? Climate or other fantastical wackery making certain attire a necessity? Paint us a clearer picture of who you'll see walking through the streets!
>Food
What crops do your people grow for consumption? What about the food you import, and from where? Do you have unique delicacies? What are the common snacks or meals for the working class, or the rich and powerful? Any food reserved for ritual purposes? How about etiquette when eating? Any special practices during mealtime?
>Entertainment
What kinds of entertainment is popular for your people? How important are they seen as part of life? Do different class people have sufficiently different tastes? How much do the chuuba gods play a role in these entertainments?
>Religion
What religious rituals does your nation have to worship its deities? What's the religious structure look like? What's the official stance on other faiths?
>Alcohol and Drink
what do your people drink and what's is it made from? what sort of culture is there around drinking in your split?
>Development
What are your nation's current goals now? What are you trying to aim for in your development? Would said development make your people happy?
>Funeral Rites
How do your people observe the death of one of their own? What kind of ceremonies are held? How are their belongings handled?
>Music
What kind of musical instruments/music does your nation make/use?
>Name
Does your thread's nation have any naming conventions? What are people named, and why? Do names have meaning? Do people have surnames, and how are those derived?
>Politics
How does the balance of power look in your nation? who are the ruling/most powerful class? Who are they competing with?
>Superstition/Folklore
What sort of superstitions/folklore do your nation's people have, as in, are there things that the people believe in or things they think they know to be real that are not real on a meta level? What are omens of good or bad fortune? What mythical monsters lurk in the forests, or in the depths of the sea? Do some foods or materials have to be prepared in a certain way before they are seen as fit to use?
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>Special
We are making a /vtl/ team! Here are the current suggestions:
https://rentry.org/team-vtwbg
Suggest and add to it!

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Current Concept: https://rentry.org/q92vo (CIP)

Official Chuubanite Concept Video: https://youtu.be/V83JR2IoI8k (embed)

>Anchor post for Ocean, Sea, and Continent naming discussion.
Post your maps here so we can see them and talk about them

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God, there's nothing better than unity pics with military soundposts...
me on the left-ish

Yknow now that I look at it, about every fetish land has some kind of thing for it except for /horni/

>>29478398
Absolutely kino. I remember watching this get bigger and bigger when I t was first used in /hlgg/. I wish it had id2, council, and later gens...

>>29478434
Horni could be the Akibara of the world.

>>29478287
>>29478514
i swear it, i will not yield to the oven in the /vtwbg/ lunchroom.

Era After anon again. I've been wondering what to write next and figured I'd ask you guys on what you wanna see! That includes writing something new or continuing a current thing.

Chapter 12 for the Cultural Exchange story, featuring elves and orcs.
https://rentry.org/cultural-exchange#chapter-12
repostan because threads are 2fast now.

>>29478649
You might spend some money on ingredients and burn a few loaves. You'll even have flat loaves too. But the important thing is to learn from your mistakes and always try something different every time you bake. I say this from experience.

>>29478793
Oh, that nasfaq kid and his writing style from the last one really grabbed me, I'd like to read more of him. Your stuff centered around /ameg/ is fun too.
And if you decided to foray into a volcanic hellscape, post-apocalyptic /morig/ could be fun.

>>29478793
I would be curious how /meat/ would be like in the Era After

>>29478816
schizos scawy

>>29476722
i don't know if you'll check my late response from last thread but i want to reiterate that i'm dying to see what the muslim plutocrat's reaction will be if you show him the calligraphy
anyways, what do you think could be used for the flag design? as you said it probably wont be for the nation, but what sort of symbols do you think we should include?

>>29474306
Replying in the new thread, but I really enjoy the theme of religious fanaticism and how the lack of separation between church and state. In general, the idea of this complete and utter devotion to Vox really fits no matter where you are in the Kingdom (cult included) because, well... Kindred are as parasocial as they come. Anywho...
>the more chuubanite you take into your body through holy rituals
This idea is really good, especially alongside your idea that the higher rank you are, the more effective your shapeshifting abilities. I like the simple and timeless idea that too much power just isn't good for someone's body and maybe the shapeshifting becomes almost irreversible once you've gone too far or held a certain form for so long.

>>29479464
>the more chuubanite you take into your body through holy rituals
>This idea is really good, especially alongside your idea that the higher rank you are, the more effective your shapeshifting abilities. I like the simple and timeless idea that too much power just isn't good for someone's body and maybe the shapeshifting becomes almost irreversible once you've gone too far or held a certain form for so long.
That's fun, there's a similar idea in the /morig/ Goddess Faithful, the stronger, more faithful priestesses take more chuubanite into their bones, making them harder and stronger, going as far as injecting it directly into their spinal cord. But the more they take in, the more zealous and mentally unstable they get. Maybe we share some chuubanite use rituals in our far-flung shared past... It's a perfect fit for the Vox church.

Would kindred be interested in healthy whole-grain breads. And would they be interested in pot roast and vegetables or meat and vegetable stew? I think I can even make meat stuffed pumpkins with the right ingredients. Though meat stuffed pumpkins are more for /meat/.

>>29479783
A spinal injection, ouch! I love this idea though simply because chuubanite is usually framed as helpful and beneficial from what I've seen so far, so exploring "chuubanite overdose" and how it can be too harmful in the bodies of ordinary people is really fascinating.

>>29479938
I love pot roast! I'm from the American midwest so it's practically in my blood.

Wtf happened while I was at my cousins house?

>>29480479
I was thinking of an easy to cook meal with enough nutrition to feed lots of hungry pregnant women with. Pot roast can be beef, lamb, or pork. Stew is also an alternative. Though stew can only be made with beef or lamb.

I'm thinking about Pan making whole-grain bread rolls, butter to slather rolls with, pot roast and vegetables. Though for the big order of pot roasts we'll need multiple pots to cook in.

>>29481141
Roseanon professed his undying love for you, it was really wholesome you should have seen it before he went on vacation.

>>29481265
Wait did Rosebud get banned again?

>>29481265
please my dude i just had a shit ton of sex with my girl my dick cant take any more

Anyway since this is a WORLDBUILDING THREAD BTW and I am finally back home i saw the only edits I needed to make were the Retro Reich.

>>29478948
our chuubanite would advance to plague-marine-levels, hopefully.

>>29481552
>spoiler
Your cousin?

>>29479112
Yeah, don't abandon your humanity, kids. Shit gets wacky.

>>29481498
No, just having a bit of fun with Risuner.

Worldbuilding thread. LEST I BE THE ONLY ONE BONKED LIKE USUAL. GET BACK TO WORK!!!

>>29476508
Yes, and no more kisses as well. With the army that you read about 2 threads ago. We use war golems as our main infantry. As long as we have rocks we can keep making them. We can even make some bigger and scarier ones if the right people were sent. I can transfer an army of any size with a single ship, since I only really need 100 something alchemists to get things started. So play nice.

>>29479464
>the timeless idea that too much power just isn't good for someone's body and maybe the shapeshifting becomes almost irreversible
Yes, exactly! I am doing a very poor job getting my thoughts in order lately but this is the exact intent! The reason the highest ranking clergymen never leave Akuma Castle isn't only because they're loathe to leave their "paradise" at their Lord's side, as they claim. In truth they are completely incapable of controlling their transformations once they've accumulated such high concentrations of chuubanite in their bodies, truly embodying the "amorphous ever-shifting mass" that Vox tends to describe Kindred as. The number of clergymen who do not survive their promotion ceremonies skyrockets as you get closer to the top of the ladder, but it's simply handwaved away by the church as the supplicant's devotion not being true enough. I really need to come up with proper names for the ranks in the church at some point (as well as a name for the church...) but I imagine part of what decides the pope-equivalent is actually the ability to properly control the absolutely stupid amounts of chuubanite they have in them by that point. If that one /meat/anon's proposal for catalognauts ultimately goes through, I will probably make the head of the church one.

On the subject of naming the church I was thinking I might just outright call them the Holy Order. The simple, straightforward names of Kindred religious organizations (including their Kingdom) are a consequence of their fanaticism – they feel no need to attach specific identifiers when they feel that worshipping Vox is simply the natural order of the world.

>>29481222
This is so cute. Pork pot roast with carrots, onions, and yams is a favorite of mine... high-protein diets are a big part of a pregnant woman's diet especially since physical activity tends to dip during pregnancy, so protein helps keep the muscles and tissues strong. Beef stew would also work nicely!

>>29481689
Yes
>>29481793
I love you too darling
>>29482042
what the brat said. lets go back to work people

Anyway made retro reich edits. Is this good now for everyone?

1118 VTE Risuners first make contact with /inf/
/inf/ declares /risu/ as a protectorate which we agree to
1119 VTE /risu/ declares independance while allowing /inf/ to be a big trade partner and in exchange for a road system linking both sides. The city of Demeter is established.
1121 VTE The very first Pinisi is constructed. It is immediately sent out to /morig/ in an attempt to make /risu/ a global power
1122 VTE (early) Contact with morig established and trade route confirmed.
Cahya is selected to stay as ambassador.
1122 VTE (later) Sumargo's expedition to /rose/ is launched
Meatheads teach us how to mine bog iron.
1123 VTE Nasfaqg make contact and establish operations in Sabatangan.
Luknights visit Silvanus and establish an embassy.
Morig establishes a lumber depot in Silvanus.
1124 VTE Contact with /rose/ established
The Retro Reich makes contact in Demeter.
Diana's expedition to /meat/ is launched
/inf/ complete the road. Ceres is established.
1125 VTE Stories of /uuu/ have reached risuners. Risuners ask for aid of all powers to build a FUCKLOAD OF BOATS
Contact with /meat/ established
Sumargo returns with /rose/ representatives
1127 VTE The Tri-fleet is complete. Jayawan, Hamdani, and Enoch selected as captains and launch for the 3 northern nations.
Diana returns from /meat/
Neriah's expedition launched to the Retro Reich
1128 VTE Neriah lands on the Retro Reich

I feel a bit bad for my re-tardiness, so here's what I have for Phase's climate and biome: https://rentry.org/tme7n
I'll fill in the mineral resource part soon, but it might take a while.
Some stuff of note:
>Life in the savannah beyond irrigated land is not necessarily nasty, brutish, and short, but it is likely to be uncertain, as life relying on hunting animals tends to be. Disruption of trade and local customs could prove disastrous for these communities.
>Aquifers can allow areas otherwise far away from consistent water sources to become arable, but as they are not infinite, depletion of aquifers could pose an existential threat for these farmers as well.
>Coastal wetland and mangrove forests are likely to be present, although the cold ocean current will likely limit the latter's development, meaning that some parts of the coast might instead be salt marches.
>Distinct wet-and-dry seasonal patterns and sometimes irregular rainfall might result in seasonal flooding around the riverbanks. This can prove vital in replenishing the nutrition of the soil, but can be disastrous for those living on said soil.
>When considering the local ecosystem, it is important to also take into consideration what kind of ecoregion you wish to have, as it determines the kind of flora and fauna you will have as much as your climate and overall biome.

>>29481793
Well stay safe.

>>29482302
I at least know one Robosan golem who will have a happy last moment.

>>29482365
Haven't tried pork pot roast with sweet potato yet. I need to get a better slow cooker though. I never was a fan of boiled or roasted carrots. So yams interest me as an alternative to carrots.

>>29481793
what the fuck did you do i missed it. I searched through the logs and didnt find shit.

Tomorrow day off. Will post luknight story. And hopefully Retro Reich can be done as well soon.

>>29483618
I didn’t do anything, that’s part of the prank.

Morning

>>29484113
/meat/ stuffed pumpkin recipe. Do you accept?

>>29484269
Maybe? Context?

>>29484269
do you use the long pumpkins with the extra flavor? those ones are great. maybe some salt, pepper, and spices, plus a few more vegetables mixed with the meat and served with a glass of red wine. am i imagining it right? also, good morning fellow /meat/head :)

>>29484372
>>29485071
I never tried long pumpkin. We never get any of those here. We do get Cinderella pumpkins. Those taste great. Not too sweet and not too bland. As for the pumpkin recipe I was thinking of borrowing Zelda's fortified stuffed pumpkin. Either that or I bake the pumpkin inside the person.

>>29485071
Is the cabal here?

>>29485650
>spoiler
you should cut it up if you do that, but it does sound good. what kind of pumpkins does /meat/ have?

>>29486265
Yeah, cubed squash with other vegetables seasoned with spices, stuffed in an animal's abdomen?... Sounds really nice. Though it should probably be cooked beforehand.

>>29486265
Tropical squashes

>>29485071
>>29485650
>>29486473
>most say "imagine the smell"
>meat say "imagine the taste"

>>29486678
Hey a big part of our sensations of flavors are from olfactory sensors I'm still smelling when I eat

>>29486473
Squashes tend to be too moist to use as stuffing. Most stuffing I use is cornmeal based when I roast stuffed turkeys. I love stuffed turkey for Thanksgiving.

https://rentry.org/p4g9rd
This is so cute! I noticed that meatbro's stories are all short but memorable

>>29487179
Maybe I'm thinking of summer squash. Winter squash is much more starchy. I digress. I also thought /meat/ had pumpkins.

>>29487515
i did too, do we not have pumpkins?

>>29487180
Why write big words excessive details when few words unique scenario works

>>29487641
meanwhile, i am named for my lack of brevity.

Wow, the whole cabal is assembled.

>>29487591
Beans, squash, and maize. I'm thinking pumpkins fall under squash.

>>29487926
ya, but there are different kinds of squash that are more suitable for different environments. idk.

>>29487855
founderchama isnt here tho
and paragraphsanon

>>29487179
That's why I said they would most probably be cooked before being stuffed. But yes that's most likely why you usually see stuffed pumpkins but not pumpkin stuffing.
>>29487515
Mashed up cooked starchy squash mixed with sauteed onions, peppers, legumes also some chopped up dried fruit and nuts, seasoned with warm spices, stuffed inside a roasted animal...
>>29487855
Not a /meat/head but I'm getting a lil hungry from the discussion

>>29488108
paragraphs is probs here >>29487755, he's gotten extra self-conscious lately it's cute.
Founder was around earlier, maybe he can pop back in for the ritual...

>>29488236
whats the time in copenhagen? maybe he's still asleep

>>29488108
i am here

Lunaito what do you think of this? Forgive the format. 4chinchin thinks it's spam
>sh*rturl(.)at(/)cHINP

>>29488886
Huh? I mean, I like Sanderson, but I don't get it. Then again, I'm not Lunaito.

>>29489131
Im mostly referring to the setting. A world where people sail on liquified powder

>>29488886
>6
so close. also, i second >>29489131's lack of understanding, and the fact that i am not lunaitoanon, but he is based. take pic rel to the head.

>>29489131
Wait a minute
You like Sanderson?!
Partake in chuubanite discussion!

>>29489934
But, I always do. I've had whole conversations with paragraphs. Multiple times, even.

>>29489274
if you think about it, can't you say you technically do sail on liquified powder? liquid snow that is.

>>29490023
wait which anon are you?

>>29490344
Just some deadbeat.

>>29490454
Huh. til

Republic Owl / Pecпyбликa Филин / République Hibou / 共和国 ワシミミズク
Taxes.

Economic policy is dictated first by the government's department of economics, it recieves advice and requests from the other departments, the department of ecomony does yearly reviews from every 4th month and 6th day for however long is needed where it will check fund allocation and collect taxes.
In these yearly reviews the department will also organize business owners, farmers, traders, economic theorists, industrialists along with industrial workers, and miners under the "Industrial Strategy Meetings" to further the economic strength of the Republic, currently divided between the industrialist faction, the neo-physiocrats as the biggest factions, but there are multiple smaller factions working towards securing certain goals.

The Republic's tax system is at a national scale and regulated by the Republican Revenue and Income that employs the aid of the National Bank and the Postal Service under the Department of Economics.
The RRI as an office performs investigations and rulings on fiscal crime and those that have commited rule breaks. They have wide ranging powers to ensure the swift workings of the government's bureaucracy and are feared by those working in grey areas. They end up being a law enforcement agency all on their own.
Yearly tax collection is done by the postal service of the Republic under direction of the RRI, typically armed with pistols and short blades if the need comes by, a common urban legend of the postal service is how they'll lay siege towards entire sectors of a city if they do not obtain what they ask for.
The national bank aids the postal service and the RRI by easing adminstrative tasks.

Progressive income tax of 10% at a minimum of 200 Beryls per year, increasing to a maximum of 50% income tax at 4200 Beryls per year through a system where tax is increased every 200 beryls by 2%
Property tax is considerably lower at a stunning rate of 0%, property is not taxed unless the land is unused by the owner, in which case it is taxed at a rate of 20% by the sale of land. Property tax remains in debate by the Industrial Strategy Meetings.
Tax grants can be given according to certain ventures a citizen may or may not take, decorated soldiers, centers of institution, researchers in sciences and technology, physically discapacitated persons, among others can all recieve tax relief by 5% to 20%. Research grants by the government are not subject to taxation.
Government administration workers all recieve a 5% tax reduction by default.
Corporation tax is a recent addition to the taxation rules, before that corporations and business fell under income tax rulings.
Corporation tax works by the reviewing of individual tax against the income and earnings of the company, individuals are unable to dodge taxation by investing towards the company for the company itself will be taxed by percentages to what has been invested in it. This only applies to the initial investment.
Discussion towards the taxing of individual gains on finalized investments are still ongoing.
Generally, 15% taxes on investments towards a company is the standard, but it may grow depending on how large the company in question grows. In addition to the investment tax, companies are also taxed for earnings at a rate of 5% to 20%, companies may apply for tax relief if the products they market are considered strategic goods.
Regarding foreign companies, taxation is much heavier, with up to 60% taxes on investment and earnings.
Businesses generally have steady and low tax rates, up to 5% starting from 1% due to the nature of consumer goods in the Republic. Small business owners may request reductions in personal income tax to care further for their businesses.

Tariffs are multiple, they target foreign products to ensure that Republican products remain cheaper than them unless it is a product that does not exist in the Republic, in such a case the tariff is reduced.
As an example, steel is the subject of protection and foreign steel is subject to heavy tariffs up to 100%. However it is a very extreme case.
Most foreign products recieve an import tariff rate of 2% to 25% depending on the product. As an example, foreign foodstuffs are not taxed as much as foreign wool is.
Those under the reduced tariff rule start at 2% and max out at 10%
Export tariffs on the other hand are given out according to strategic and diplomatic need, exports toward rival or unfriendly regimes get large tariffs while exports toward direct allies can recieve negative tariffs.
Only direct allies may recieve tariff reductions, tipically for strategic resources as is the case for Hoshiyomia and their need for potatoes and their navy's relationship towards the Republican one.
Free trade agreements may be given out to allied nations in which their exports and imports recieve very few tariffs.

Anchoring.
>>29477849

>>29490788
To the other hoomans, feel free to help out with specific rulings particular products may recieve, as always, things are subject to change.

>>29490782
Pro-tip: there aren't lots of Deadbeats these days, I haven't seen another one besides nasfaqg rep in a week or two kek
There's another who wrote some nice stories but I haven't seen him in a while...
>>29490788
Time for Hooman lore kino!
>taxes
Oh no...

>tfw im switching between 3 personas
>tfw 2 of them are reps
>tfw if im away for one day people will notice

>>29491655
who?

>>29491655
panon…

>>29490788
Economics (and of course the history of it) is definitely my weakness but I had thought the corporate tax rate in the Republic would be higher. But I guess it's still a rapidly growing country so the government thought it can use some slightly lower tax rate to encourage indigenous operations to expand.
>>29490912
Yeah I think help with that when other anons want to write something trading. I did plan on writing something on the industry of /who/ but it's in a decently long queue...

>>29491994
Yeah, corporation tax is supposed to be relatively recent and somewhat low enough to encourage rapid growth and investments, the RRI is there to bust any South Sea Bubble schemes too. Once corporations are more established their taxes will probably become higher.
How it is written currently is very inspired by british tax laws, leaving more particular product taxes up to our writers is also easier on me than writing entire lists on it.

>>29491655
But why would you burden yourself like this?
On that note, how would anons feel if the person you liked turns out be another anon's alt?

>>29492952
NTA, but it's the other way, the person I like turned out to have an alt. Nothing wrong with that.

bump.

bump

>>29496804
>page 8 bump

>>29496874
have you ever noticed that sometimes when you are away for a long time, the page count on the page is inaccurate? i like to bump at 8 because it gives me enough time before page 9 or 10. granted, i did this more often on fast boards where the time it took to go from 8 to 10 wasn't very high, which is why i sometimes wait for later pages.

>>29497061
during dead/SEA hours you can get quite a bit of time at the bottom of the board, page 10 is pretty good for bumps at this hour

>>29497519
unless mori does something stupid

>>29497617
My wife runs this board.

>>29497690
runs this board to the ground with all her yabs, you mean. lol. but her out-of-touchness makes her cute more often than it makes her yabai so it's forgivable.

>>29497786
I know, right? Have an old ass pre-koopa koopapost for this good take.

Caught up with the thread after waking up to streams. Good morning everyone. I'll be around once I've done my dishes.

>>29473785
fyi that wasn't me. i was asleep for a long time.

>>29482666
Mineral resource portion kind of done, I tried my best

>>29500134
TIL about Karst, damn that's cool. You always have those cool insights anon, good stuff.

holy shit!
I didnt know /meat/ lore was this deep!
https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/daevite-hub

>>29500512
Surely it's a funny coinci-
>slave caste
>blood magic
>plant magic
>cannibalism
you saw nothing

>>29479295
I'd have to ask the thread, but some symbols relating to the market graphs, and green/red, most likely. Showed it to him, now waiting for response.

Word cloud for last thread.

>>29504638
>canal reich real
>correction allowed
>/meat/ writing /who/

>>29505163
remember considering interested friends

I know risuners talk the talk but do they have any sex enhancing nuts?

>>29488886
Its only bringing me to the homepage, nora

>>29506435
Gdi! Anyway, it's the blogpost for the reveal of this
https://coppermind.net/wiki/Tress_of_the_Emerald_Sea

GM faggotS

bump

Good morning, my loyal little cultists!

Hey! I am ready to do the economy. I saw it done earlier and I will get to work on Phase FINALLY.

>>29510119
Morning! Long live the pregnancy cult!

Good morning everyone
I woke up too early and now I feel dead

Ohayo vtwbg! I had my first vtwbg related dream last night

How are your projects? What plans for vtwbg today?

>>29510924
Clockhayo!

>>29510924
describe to us the dream you had

>>29511048
I dont remember much of the details but I remember that I was in the vtwbg world, looking over the map of neutral and nijicontinent, which had all been conquered by the unholy alliance of /uuu/ and /who/.

I remember there being 2 saplings (who looked like pic rel) in the same room with me, and they were discussing how to carve up the new lands between themselves and the hoomans.

As I was on the losing side, I suppose i was there to see how the lands were to be divided, and to sign the peace agreement (the dream never got to this).

I remember there being some other events in the dream too, but I do not remember any of the details.

Ive had thread related dreams before as well, vtwbg isnt the first time.

>>29511600
A premonition...

>>29510119
hi kindred, could you check if this story would be in line with the cult of yours?

https://rentry.org/isp39

>>29511600
>>29511827
Interesting...

>>29511600
interesting dream. i wonder who would side with who under that situation. or are you implying /uuu/ and /who/ alone took over the whole world? i would like to one day have a dream about /vtwbg/. oh well.

>>29511993
/uuu/ and /who/ alone took over the neutral and niji continents, rest of the world stayed out of it.

>/uuu/ /who/
>/2434/ pomurania
>infinity /meat/
We need more villain duos

>>29512596
you forgot
>/morig/ /meat/
>nasfaqg (just by themselves)

>>29512596
I wouldn't say Pomerania is a villain overall since we just keep to ourselves for of the time, its more like /MANS/-/2434/ or Bankers-/2434/

>>29512764
*Most of the time
Truthfully, from a Pomeranian perspective and that of LazuLight in general, /haha/ is the true villain (Other than the schizos) because they constantly want to conquer lands from their neighbors and cause problems. They are the ones who have interfered with local politics continuely and want to take all of Syrenia for themselves.

>>29512080
oh, well still, sounds pretty difficult.

>>29512937
It was a dream, I dont know how the war went and why they won, all i saw was the aftermath

Hello everyone!!!!
>>29510119
HI kindred!!! How are you????!!

>>29510924
Hi kroniebro!!! How are you doing???!!
>spoiler
First time????

>>29512764
Panon do you mind if I take a while to post lore??? Today is gonna be a bit tough to make progress on the page!!! But I have a lot of drafts ready tho!!!

>>29512984
usually, when i do have dreams, they are highly detailed and have a sort of artificial memory of a variety of events and stuff. often times i even know where i am relative to other places i have visited in other dreams, and where other things are in relation to each other. it's really interesting.

>>29513085
Take your time, I am taking an offday anyways, just here to give my input since Phasebro seems to be here, you are here, and Alice surely will be as well.

>>29512937
Not much of a difficult affair when you have CAS

>>29513354
Idk, we have some sneaky tricks up our sleeves for your barbarians.

>>29513652
>barbarians
Why the language? We brought gifts!

>>29513841
We did too.

>>29514037
Now I want strangereal but Vitubia. What super weapon would Ninisani build?

Ladies & Gentlemen;
BEHOLD!
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-meatannals
A teaser to my latest addition to /meat/!
"But anon, don't you have like 3 other stories and a river map to finish?" SHUT UP!

>>29474306
>>29482307
Sorry for the late response, I fell asleep. This idea is really cool! I also think giving kindred religious orders straightforward names for the reason you stated makes sense. Maybe for the ranks you can name them after types of angels? Virtues, powers, thrones, etc. I think that would work well with the way you've been trying to depict the kindred as seeming kind of delusional about the reality of their own society, what with referring to a demon as a god and all the other stuff.

>>29514094
This, but let's get back to work.

>>29510730
>>29513085
Good morning!!

>>29511929
I will when I get on my lunch break! I’m at work for the next 5.5ish hours but I’m taking my lunch in about an hour. I’ll read through it then!

>>29514924
ehhh you might not wanna read this at lunch at work, i can wati till you are back home

>>29515100
Please. Do you remember that massive chain of hornyposting Kronieronie and I did a couple of weeks ago? I typed all of my posts from work because I fear no man nor no god.

>>29515411
right, i forgot who inspired this story in the first place, hope its a fun read

/meat/ died.

>>29516695
COME ON!

>>29514179
Another good read, friend!
>3 other stories and a river map
Damn, anon. You should wrap a story up before moving on.

>>29514179
>using archived posts as archaeological evidence
GENIUS

I don't want to wake up. I want to go back to sleep and dream about Sana. Pan pan...

Yo where is everybody?

>>29515411
Same. To be fair I was alt tabbing and clearing history every five seconds like a motherfucker so you still had me beat in the fearless factor

>>29520794
watching my oshi atm while waiting on if kindred likes the story or not, after that probably finishing up my next chapter of /risu/ story

>>29513085
>First time????
Oh please do tell Cutie. What was the dream, hmmm?

Also good morning people! Let's ignore it's 5pm for me and I slept over the entire day....

>>29510924
>>29511038
Hey Kronies!

if anyone else wants to give some feedback on my smutstory for the pregnancy cult feel free to give it a read too

https://rentry.org/isp39

Good day. how are you!!!!

>>29521346
Pretty nice, got a little chub in the middle there. Shame it was so short though.

also watching retrobros oshi

>>29522113
sorry for that, it is sadly not my specialty at all, in fact this was the first time i ever wrote smut at all

>>29477849
https://rentry.org/tme7n
https://rentry.org/zhz8x
I finished Phase's economy. It took a lot of research and the efforts of a ppanon, alice and geologyanon to get it done. Pin both of these under Phase lore and delete any previous lore for Phase please achive anon. Tell me how i did, fellow worldbuilders.Retro, Alice and PPanon I want to hear from especially because of the help you have given me in this is crucial to this turning out well. Excited for the future of our project!

>>29520794
Wait... So there is a Deadbeat other than me and nasfaqg rep...

>>29522795
Hehehehehe

>>29522903
DAMN YOU RI2NER

>>29522584
damn, this is great

it is all very logical and very fleshed out, i see no issues

>>29522584
EXCELLENT!!! I already have an idea of how we own so much too! You couldnt pay so it was negotiated that we get paid by other assets! Better than anything I have ever wrote!!!!!I will have so much fun with this!

>>29522536
As a somewhat experienced smut reader, here's my take:
try to focus some more on the feeling behind each action, instead of just listing what happened. You could probably fill out an entire paragraph with just the feelings the guy experienced after the first penetration, before he even started moving.
1. This helps pad the story out a bit
2. Helps the reader with imagining the scene better, really immerse them in the act, leading to a better fap session imo.

>>29523084
>>29523344
Thanks! I am a Finanicial Consultant with a major in Economics, so I thought I could do good if i had the right things in place. Some of the things were harder to write about but I think it fits well. I like the idea of the C.I.O. being paid by the state in the form of industries and enterprises. This means Phase isn't paying any more debt right since the C.I.O. practically has a monopoly right?

>>29522584
Great work, Phasebro. Do you have a degree in economics or something? You certainly seem like you understand how economies work better than I do.
>>29523535
Ah, I see you do.

>>29523535
No!!! I don't think phase should have any debts if that much was sold off. albeit i would like to think we spent just as much building new things as you sort of said we did. You made us look smarter than I would have honestly. I thought we would just go in and not give a crap about the future. interesting about the parts of the lower classes liking us... didn't see that coming.

>>29522584
>Syndeoneia's economy has a thriving Primary Sector, from which most of its wealth is stolen by foreigners from.
Phasefriends...
Kino economics, very nice work! This make me want to re-write my thread's economics with a primary/secondary/tertiary split!

>>29523381
i will try to keep that in midn should i ever get into such a situation again to write smut but i must admit it is not exactly what i would normally write.
maybe i will rework this one at some point with that in mind tho.

>>29523593
yeah honestly, almsot makes me want to break my rule of wanting to do my stuff on my own and ask if he can do one of these for the Retro Reich too^^

>>29523868
>>29523840
I am willing to help since everyone has helped me but I think I need to work on the politics, religion and other things so I can start writing with Alice. Maybe in the future? I haven't been free a lot recently thanks to clients but It's not normally like this for me.
>>29523780
Well, I viewed it from the perspective of your nation being not complete morons and being rather cunning as a whole and used that method to deduce that the company would take such measures to ensure it made profit long term.

>>29523840
This is what got me
>The C.I.O. has a practical monopoly on the economy as a whole, but no other sector quite shows it better than the secondary sector. Nearly 90% of all businesses are either own or have investment from the C.I.O.
That sounds like the V.O.C. to me. My goodness, imagine your secondary sector beign dominate by one massive company.

>>29522584
Nice work. Very detailed. And I like how you incorporated some lore tidbits in there. Though for an (I presumed) export economy I'd expect some regions to specialize in one or few types of cash corp?

my computer lost power when i was halfway done my work on the big canal.....

>>29524132
Yeah, it's socioeconomically terrifying. Gambare Dynatoi, I will root for you!

>>29524200
Yeah, I sort of didn't want to get into writing a 20 page paper like I did in college on this sort of thing, otherwise i would have went into extreme detail about exactly where each cash crops was grown. Phase is massive in size, I think its around the same size as India IRL so that would have been quite the task.

Oh, PPanon, I might need you to take Maniakes out or make him a lot younger, I think our war for independece starts in like 1150 or 1160 VTE. Or hell, just give him a son that grew up in Pomerlane's court and returns how to liberate his lands
>>29524281
The future Liberator of Phase, pic real.

>>29524508
I would say that actually makes things more interesting, if the future liberator grew up in the court of one of the most legendary commanders of all time, possibly him being his Godfather and training him in what he knew like one of his own sons. I love the idea personally if that's what you want to role with. Guessing Maniakes is a Lumi worshipper

>>29524688
Yeah, Lumi would be the patron naturally. She is the Goddess of the Sun, and War likely. Great idea, I think that's what I will role with. The reason I want to allow this to develop longer than some might think is it adds an interesting dynamic as the industrial revolution starts to take hold.

>>29524902
i don't know if the other anons want tech to naturally progress as decades come, I personally think it should like when 1130 hits, the tech like should be 1760 tech and so on.

>>29525033
/pcg/ sounds like they are still in the first industrial revolution as described in the economy rentry. Although the "the some experments with steam engines" would be a bit early if we do assume /pcg/ is in1750s tech, it doesn't sound like /pcg/ would use steam power for manuafacturing for at least a couple decades. In real life it still took the earlier beam engines in 1800s decades to grow and be adopted by factories. iirc it's only when the corliss engine was invented there was a faster growth in the adoption of steam. Even then water and wind power still represent a large fraction of power generated in England in the 1860s. The industrial revolution in real life came in phases, just the adoption of more non-steam powered machinery is fine.

>>29525395
yeah, I noticed too. My point is more I personally don't know if tech actually progresses naturally as many anons have said it will be stagnate at 1750 for a while.

>>29525555
i honestly stopped caring for tech stuff and time advancements because it always jsut ends in arguments, everyone can do what they want honestly as long as its logical and if time moves ahead too far for me i will simply stop writing in the now and instead have my stories be in the past

>>29525740
Yep, I plan on that myself anyways for the same reason. Tired of arguing about that when I can write fun future stories in the Medieval Era and the Renaissance.

And that's why I'm leaning hard into magic.

>>29525395(me)
But /pcg/ being primarily an agrarian economy would definitely hinder its industrialization. Scale is the big issue here IMO. But I trust /pcg/rep more than myself when it comes to economy so as long as there's a reasonable explanation and such it should be fine.

>>29525555
Most of us here are modeling everything on real life European also NA) technological developments of the 18-19th cen. Which is kind of inevitable when so much English language sources are on this region. Different factors in individual countries would impact their adoption/development of tech. It should depend on the individual country. But for the average person I do think they would be stuck in mid 18th cen. lifestyle for a bit. /risu/ is an extreme example but it would probably take decades for a Risuner living in the deeper forests to see tangible improvements compared to those who lives in Sabatangan.

>>29506726
It looks insane as hell, which is usual for Brandy-sensei but I'm looking forward to getting my hands on https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/23947089-the-lost-metal
And finishing up Alloy of Law, nanora! I'll probably be able to do it before Emerald Sea releases tho

Usually don't like hurrying other people to do stuff but map /meat/head can I ask you to do the Western Holocontinent first when you get back to making the river map? We've been waiting for quite a while now...

>>29526029
To be fair, it seems like the India Company is saving money by producing goods locally.

>>29477849
https://rentry.org/zrh67
tell me if this makes any sense... i lost a good bit earlier but i got most of it back. Is this a stub? I don't think I need say much more than I did no?

>>29526528
Actually that could be a good plot point. The company got so ahead of itself it only sees potential profit and nothing else. So rather than having some of its more advanced and complicated production back in /2434/, they built factories and trained a lot of locals. The uncontrolled extraction of profit drew ire from the locals that built on their initial humiliation, which the merchants and officials in /2434/ thought they could easily suppress just like last time. But the sheer hatred that had grew over the past decades and having a much modernized economy contributed to /pcg/'s eventual independence from company influence.

>>29526865
Sort of how it made sense to me personally, I think the weapons industry seems to be the main point of contention. Might be some internal reasons back home they decided to do this as well.
>>29526798
A stub in my opinion add little to lore and lacks information Alice. To me, this isn't a stub because you really don't have to get into the autism of canals like a full history of the canal would. Others could disagree though.

>>29526865
>>29527043
Was part of my plan, but also I think that the peasants need a reason to buy into this personally. A national awakening is what is needed because your average joe doesn't care about unless he has a reason to. The company shouldn't be idiots when it comes to things, I am sure they have tried to make the impression they are the good guys.

>>29526798
Also wanted to say that I think given the size and length, your numbers work for me at least. Like the details about the lakes and lagoons because it makes sense given the length. Wondering if those lakes grow in size into brakish lakes, I doubt the river itself would become brakish as a whole however.

>>29521329
Hi founder-kun!
>>29521995
Hi Alice. I'm still waiting on Risuner before I think about the possibility of letting you guys in Demeter. I hope you've been good!

>>29527887
waiting on me for what exactly? i kinda been a lazy fuck today. Do you need lore shit from me?

no one is telling me if my canal is a stub or not besides pp, who i don't know if i can take as the authority because he is biased for me....
>>29527887
>>29528122
yeah. Let's talk about it.

>>29528122
Oh hi! Here:

1. The /inf/ cities in Risu are, as the name implies, controlled by Infinity right? With kronie governors and guards and laws?
2. Would Risuners be interested in joining a foreign legion led by Infinity command? It would be cool if Infinity had a fighting force on the mainland comprised of locals
3. We have hazelnuts. Do you want to trade?

>>29528259
I am not sure what you mean by stub, I think you communicated what you wrote and got the details in your needed. It's like PPanon said, you don't have to write a 20 page paper on it. I wouldn't know what more is needed there anyways.

I also want to make this clear to retroanon, Our Lumi > Your Lumi.

>>29528271
no you are not allowed to own the cities, you operate under us and us our laws. they are own cities.

>>29529826
im also ri2ner and thats my opinion.

>>29529826
>>29529920
WHERE IS OGSUNER

>>29530196
Probably being disgusting!!!!

>>29530196
kek i dont know but i remember boss saying that about all foreigners that they are under our laws because of what you guys did in the past.

>>29530516
I-is there bad blood I don't know about? Well, I understand him wanting to be independent. I'll wait for him to return and ask him about the others too.

>>29530594
i just remember this being said to /2434/ whenever they made the redacted deal, my words don't hold much weight as he doesn't seem clear himself half the time

I was thinking when in Rome do as the Romans do in /risu/. Which means follow their laws and customs.

>>29530646
Ah. Naruhodo... UUUUUU WHERE'S OGSUNER

I honestly am torn because i have no idea what risu even offers us that makes sense for any investment... i was overeager in past but now it makes no sense. what do we even get from trading? we don't have two ports like inf does. i don't care about nuts either.

>>29528588
Retro anon when it comes to it we might be open to selling you arms or clear the way for you to hire some mercs directly...

>>29530846
Also been a while since I last saw any saplings ITT...

>>29530974
That's not Retroanon, that's phase anon.

>>29531035
I know, just indicating that I'm referring to /pcg/rep's proclamation.

>>29531180
???? if this involves phase and not retrosenpai, i will direct you to this Article VII:
The Imperial Navy of Nijisanji has the right to inspect all shipping coming and going from Syndeonia Ports to ensure fairness and the prevention of smuggling.

>>29530800
This OG?

>>29530974
For what purpose /who/?

>>29531321
Anon... Look at the map again. We can sell things to /vrt/ without entering into any waters where /2434/ can project their naval power. In fact it's one of the reasons why we might be able to clear them to get arms that are otherwise banned from exportation, so that we can maintain our influence and security in the [insert ocean name].

>>29531511
Let's say sometimes things need to get... reset...

>>29530966
i think your problem in ht epast was that you somehow confused /risu/ as some big market like /nasfaqg/ when in reality the msot trade there is exclusively between the trade alliance with /morig/ also buying some stuff of the alliance there and having contact with /risu/ themselves

>>29504466
can you get me screenshots of the graphs for reference?

>>29531864
You do know that we do not approve of you "enlightened" thoughts and "Atheism", rather we find it more despicable than the plutocrats who rule over us.

>>29531864
There is no problem if it is retro reich, I am refering to Phase.

>>29528588
cute but wrong

>>29530974
honestly outside of whatever i would be interested in deepening our relationship with /who/ overall, /who/ was the first nation we made closer ties with and are important friends for us. being able to have access to mercenaries is also always good for us since we fight less on ground and would rely on such stuff

Think there was a matter of confusion that needs cleared up. Hooman never was refering to /pcg/ but Retroreich and he replied to the /pcg/ rep by accident. Alice, rightfully, took suspicion on this but I am here to say that it is a misunderstanding.

>>29532227
retrosenpai... is my canal piece good??? no one but pp gave me feedback...

>>29531418
Nope, just a soon to be homeless bread dog.

>>29532101
We are not atheists. True atheists are an extreme minority in Vitubia where we have real, breathing gods. We just have a secular government. Our religion still shapes the national goal and ideology but the temples have a minor role to play in the workings of /who/.

>>29532354
It was never an accident, just referring to the post by /pcg/rep so retro anon knows what I'm talking about.

>>29532101
Hey buddy we aren't atheist, it's more like we just have no official temple or religious doctrine

>>29532464
gimme a sec, i just woke up from a nap and my oshi decided to have more secret guerrillas because 8 scheduled streams and 5 guerillas are not enough appearintly...

>>29532609
>>29532628
This "secularism" and "enlightened thinking" leads to the same end, we are not interested in support from even if you think it is for our benefit, because a true Syndeonian does not compromise his principles as we learned during our humiliation. Breaking the chains will be done by the spirit of our people and through honoring our gods.

>>29532464
But you did get feedback from someone other than him
>>29528505

>>29532902
im dum....... THANKS PHASEREP!!!!!

>>29532874
Incredibly based.

>>29532874
Bud I was referring to selling weapons to /vrt/. Although /pcg/ is probably another decently sized market for us (at least before the war) we don't have any interest to deepen our diplomatic relationship for now.
>Breaking the chains will be done by the spirit of our people and through honoring our gods.
Uhh something something maxim guns

>>29532464
alice... you did all this work for a mere 25 ships to go through there?

look up canal barges, stuff might not be all fast but you want like 100-200 ships going there to move tons over tons of product and goods to make this profitable

>>29533064
But is this not the teachings of Pomerlane and Pomeranius themselves? It is from you that we learned it.
>>29533176
What are these "maxim guns"? I got rid of the tech bullshit.

>>29532874
I see you too are of strong faith. Very based.

>>29533280
Not about the old /pcg/ lore but how you can't block bullets with just your faith alone.

>>29533256
I didn't know what was realistic.... this isn't that kind of canal, merchant ships can traverse it....

>>29533357
Faith issue.

>>29533357
Ah, I see you think we are fools. No, Luminious shalt not block the bullets but our dates of death are predestined thus we shall not know any fear in the face of the enemy. We have learned from the past, and understood that our spirit was lacking as was our faith. By Luminious, we shall triumph.

>>29533357
>Missing that this is faith-based nationalism not magic.
Oh Hoomen...

Go ahead and write the Risuner kidnapping plot for /nasa/. It looks like I'm going to be busy for the weekend too. Plus my medications changed. So I need time to adjust.

Phaserep, are you planning on turning Lumi into the representation of all of Phase Chuubas into one entity like Sol Invictus?

>>29533374
other than that, the timeframe and soem aprt taking longer due to problems with locks sound well reasoned and fine

but since this was a mammoth project you want to make good use of it so the amount of ships could increae, with 20m wide you can basicly have 2 lines of barges goign both way and a faster middle lane for ships that are a bit bigger and quicker

>>29533748
Sort of, but I think that in the instance of nationalism and liberation, Lumi being that representation makes sense. I am sure that the faith of the people was shaken by the defeat.

>>29533839
When I read 25 ships it was entering and departing per day, not 25 ships at a time. Alice, am I right? That makes sense to me at least and hundreds of ships could be making the 2 week trip.

>>29533839
Oh and I also doubt that sailing ships can open their sail while transiting the canal, which means they would had to be towed the whole way through...

>>29533975
>25 ships each day starting or finishing its transit.
Yeah, I think this is two ESLs.

>>29533975
ahh ok, that is different then yes, i read it as 25 ships are makign a trip on the river each day wich sounded like a bit too less

>>29534055
That's why I also think 2 weeks makes sense all things considered. Maybe it should be 3 but I don't know if that is totally needed the whole way. Quick math, the canal would be 300 kilometers so maybe 40 kilometers a day. I think it should be 3 weeks actually. Bit to fast for mules and oxen

I don't know if you would need to pull the whole way.... these are sailing ships after all and I saw pictures of them sailing up canals without help.... not like there is no wind on land...

>>29532051
Sure thing, buddy.
By the way, I have shown the conlang to the Muslim trader, and to quote the whole reaction at its end: "I fucking kneel, and am in awe at this lad's autism" and a gif of Mikochi giving a thumbs up.
>>29522795
Everyone has a Deadbeat living inside them. I take it you've returned from the trip?
>>29512734
Ahem. /nasfaqg/ is, in no shape or form, "evil". That implies malicious intent. It is, at its worst, immoral while advancing towards a greater goal (profits).

>>29534413
Eh, don't worry about it. I am not going to squeeze you or anyone over an extra week when OG has a story about Pinisis going down to rose and back safely.

>>29532227
How nice, if our interests do align so much, it'd be convenient for us to establish a defensive pact of sorts, of course it'd be somewhat of a diplomatic compromise for you, but if you think it's worth it then deepening our relationship could also do wonders, do think about it is all I'm saying.

>>29534238
How much time does it actually save compared to regular sail, then?

>>29534514
Correct, the C.I.O. is NOT EVIL EITEHR FOR THOSE REASONS.

>>29534589
there is no reason why the pinisi wouldn't make it to /rose/ safely...

HOW MANY RI2NERS ARE THERE EVEN NOW?!

>>29534731
It's always been 3.

>>29534608
there is no need to think since i wanted to approach you with something similar anyway, all that is left is ironing out the details

>>29534713
>Just using maps
>Not experience sailors
>Having no experience dealing with the kind of winds that would be around that part of the continent.
Look, I am not saying its not possible and I am not going to say "You need to fix it" but forgive me if my disbelieve isn't suspensed by these little ships battling Cape Horn tier winds and waves and surviving.
>>29534643
It's like 1000 km across the canal and river combinded and just to get to the channel heading north or south from Suzuhara is 1500 km.

>>29534413
It's big merchant men and potentially even man-o-wars we are talking about. That leaves little margin of error, if a ships' crew is in experienced they might get stuck and delay everyone that's behind them. It also depends on the prevailing wind's direction and terrain. Sailing ships did traverse the Suez but they had to be towed by tug boats.

>>29535093
Ships of the Line aren't able to make it, but yeah. There probably is mules and oxen used for this. It might be slower than the same distance at sea but the distance at sea is much longer as shown above.

>>29534514
hell yeah, i've made two flags (the same design but different backgrounds). do you have any recommendations for a color scheme?
https://rentry.org/ch6pe

Probably wouldn't be a bad experimental idea for your navy, alice, to develop steam powered tugboats for this canal. You did say you were ahead of tech and since this is localized, It probably isn't an issue assuming you keep it like that.
>>29535278
Go Black or White, unironically.

>>29535363
>steam engines
No.

>>29535363
>steam
You of all people should understand why steam engines are a problem and why they wouldn't realistically remain contained to tugboats, especially for a naval power.

>>29535394
There is absolutely nothing wrong with experiments in it. This doesn't imply these experminets will be a success etiher, see this a river boat from 1783.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyroscaphe

>>29535574
Yes, and Herodotus has technically made a steam engine in antiquity. We've all heard it. That doesn't change the fact that as a technology, it's literally world-changing, and with the talks of "advancing time" here even "just experiments" is an absolute no.

>>29535566
Once again, Experiments. This tech IRL took decades to work out properly for ships.

>>29535702
No. Absolutely no.

Whatever, forget I said it for the reasons you all stated. I am not looking at it from a meta perspective when I said that.

>>29534914
Nice, in that case, let's agree to a fully formalized defensive pact, you'd also be able to buy weapons from us and hire assistance from our military experts with such a diplomatic relation to us, now, I don't want to affect your own diplomacy too much either, so it's probably not the time for a full alliance agreement. Is that okay with you?

>>29534664
C.I.O. serves the imperialistic interest of the foreign political elites. It suppresses free markets and corrupts the will-to-power ideology that makes /nasfaqg/ companies truly Nasfaqgian. Thus, it can be evil. Also it's a non-/nasfaqg/ economic competitor so I can engage in a little bit of fun libel.
>>29522584
Just so you know: as far as I'm concerned, /nasfaqg/ merchants that aren't from C.I.O. still can freely move and invest on /pcg/ grounds, and those are independent companies. If you want a source of smuggling, illegal arms, and contraband completely legal, high-quality goods in the lore, we're your people.And, of course, I'd like to note that any talk of NASFAQ companies contributing to political polarization or destabilization of regions they operate under is, of course, a rumor. Although in your case this just means that your rebels/resistance units might be given a better funding and fighting chance.
>>29535278
NASFAQ as a site uses a particular hue of blue often, as well as this dark colour. Try it out and see how it works for the colour scheme.

Maybe this is just my economics major speaking but experiments into steam power in canals were starting around this time and would continue as time progresses. If we are at 1750 tech wise, experiments are just starting IRL for it. It's not physically possible to power anything bigger than a yacht with one for another 60 years anyways.

>>29536042
like this?

>>29536167
Perfect. I'll post it in the thread and ask what they think, is that okay?

>>29536382
i am scared, but i also can't be helped to wonder their reaction, post et

>>29535826
Panon you used the wrong words, what you meant to say is Chuubanite powered tugboats^^

>>29535858
sounds good, with oru old agreement you could already buy weapons from us tariff-free so to further showcase our good will we would offer to you the ability to hire some of our navy ships as escorts if you need them

>>29477849
>After some years of smuggling coming from outside sources into Syndeonia from ships flying friendly colors, the C.I.O. has applied political pressure to the Shogunate to shut it down. Therefore, as of July 1st, 1110 VTE, all ships, regardless if they are flying the flag of a friendly nation must be inspected when they enter Syndeonian ports and must be registered with the port authorities. Any ship that fails to meet these standards or refuses to cooperate will be sent away from said ports.We condemn the blantant acts of terrorism caused in part by the dealing of irresponsiible and unscrupulous merchants as attempts at disrupting the peace our presence provides.

/horni/ wildlife

>>29536042
Your "Free Markets" have brought terrorism and violence that have disrupted the peace, thus we shut it down. Our act of good faith with you regarding your ships has been suspended in Syndeonia for these reasons and for all other friendly nations.

>>29536561
Brilliant, it's a deal.

>>29536561
Kek, that would be acceptable to people here wouldnt it. Looks like Nasfaqg just screwed you over to, retrobro, given Alice's response.

>>29536755
The Market cannot be denied.

>>29536909
>You think so? It is not your market, but our markets that shall not be denied.

Thank you to the "Free Trade" advocates that screwed us over even more...This is why we need to turn only to ourselves for our freedom and not outsiders who desire profit over everything.

>>29536995
This just means /nasfaqg/ goods will end up there anyways, just without any of your oversight you might have normally had, especially since you just created a massive niche that's begging to be filled (and that is profitable to do so). Smuggling, infiltration, and plausible deniability everywhere. Fleets will arrive and go, extended legal battles will be carried out at ports, and the whole ordeal will be much more costly than the alternative. You can't support free trade and be protectionist at the same time, especially for different regions, it creates a myriad of loopholes. /nasfaqg/ companies would set up /2324/ shell companies or bribe small businesses to trade on foreign soil anyways.
>>29537267
It won't last. Or if it will, we'll profit much more while /2324/ loses.

>>29537341
>We, at the P.I.O., are ruthless against our competition. We shall bury you and are not afraid to use some... less that scruplious means to achieve that goal. The Shogun doesn't have time to carry about what we do. Set up shell companies? Just asking for problems with the Shogun, who greatly enjoys his wine from Syndeonia vintage. Bribery? Our bribes carry more value as actual Imperial citizens. You think you will put it into the red, but your attempts will bleed your own corporation dry. We may be new, but our power will exceed yours in every way. If you want to play dirty with us, we shall return the favor through our own means.

>>29536857
don't see how this screw us over, we only come to the port there to bring the delivery of what /2434/ ordered from us, we aren't smuggling ect there and if they misuse their right to inspect than they only delay their own goods to themselves. if anything /2434/ would have a high itnerest in providing us with a easy way to identify ourselves as truly beign from the retro reich in order to cut down time and get their own good quicker

Holy fuck I passed the fuck out and fell asleep and i have anons crying about me. Bruh.....
Yeah sorry I will answer all the questions in my next post just wanted to say I have 0 fucking energy today and feel dead in general. Anyway lets see what the kronies left for me.

>>29537773
Well, /who/ wanted to smuggle. That's why I said that, albeit anyone with a brain could see this coming as soon as someone decided to start it. Alice also plays one hell of a villain anyways.

>>29537793
quick OGsuner read this, it will recharge you:

https://rentry.org/isp39

>>29514179
>archived posts being historical artifacts
>esoteric archaeologist
>that lore about the Marine-Akira rrat
How the fuck does /meat/ keep coming up with this?

I want to remind /nasfaqg/ also that there is a good amount of people in /pcg/ right now that think the C.I.O. has done wonders for them. Your outside influence doesn't help my nation at all really, it just makes it harder for the average citizen to rally behind liberation when they see that both sides are the same.

>>29537769
>thinking they can out-money THE Money
>thinking they can out-hustle THE Hustle
Foolishness, Alice. Foolishness. P.I.O. is comparable to a /nasfaqg/ corporation, but by closing a market you're not pitting yourself just against one, but multiple.
>>29536995
That being said, there's an easy way to avoid this, and to avoid immense amounts of money pouring into political opposition that would keep the market open - and that is, quite frankly, what you have done in the past - keeping the goods moving with equal rights as Nijisanji traders. This is why I asked it in the past, and why I haven't spoken much about the whole ordeal until /pcg/ anon dropped the economy document, at which point I've offered that there would reasonably be several individuals who'd likely be smuggling in contraband - but doing what you did would skyrocket the problem to astronomical proportions... which, with the upcoming War, would add a whole new side to the conflict. However, it is not too late to veer off the path to destruction, just keep the markets open - and all you'll have to deal with are a few bad apples.
That being said, if you want to bring in a sizeable coalition of /nasfaqg/ companies into the /pcg/ corner to make things and the war more interesting, be my guest.

>>29537933
Everyone wants to play nice and have peace and a little tea party. Me? I want to sip tea while stonks come in and I drive other nations and companies into the ground that dare mess with my business!!!!

>>29537933
Ayaya. Our involvement in this affair seems to be greatly exaggerated.

>>29537974
After the conceptual realm proposal, the catalognaut proposal, and now this, Im suspecting that /meat/ is not just the Illuminati of /vt/ anymore. while we're fighting for table scraps like trade deals and SEX, the god eaters are going further

>>29528271
1. We own the cities. But the kronies use it as a base of operations and naturally there would be a lot of kronies there. Given the fact theat kronies and risuners go a long way and we both have a love of sex we get along VERY well. So risuners see 0 problem with a large number of kronies operating in the city. KRONIES ARE OUR FRIENDS
2. I would say maybe? Trying to think of a whole nation so I could see a few risuners do it but I do not think the number would be exceptionally high.
3. YES PLEASE WE WOULD LOVE TO EXCHANGE OUR NUTS WITH YOU

>>29538306
We don't want your help, slaves to money. You are no better than them, if not worse. Our people shall not side with the (((money))) either way you fat, plutocratic heathens. That is not the path to liberation or righteousness. That is the path which ruined us.

Phasebro is based as fuck. I can see he at least understands what his future Emperor/leader of the uprising believes. Fuck /nasfaq/ and fuck the P.I.O. Two sides of the same coin of greed.

>>29538471
>>29537974
>>29518417
>>29518126
Thanks! Was it that unique?

You know. What does nasfaqg think of risuners in general? Do you like us and are we profitable? Do you like to exchange nuts with us? Would you pay to fuck risuner prostitutes? Do you approve of our currency being nuts?

>>29538306
You get that I am playing it like this company would right? Laying it out to them isn't changing their minds about it. They are heavy handed like these companies were IRL.

we up on /trash/ meatheads

>>29538135
Let me further explain what I meant by my first post: if you needed a source of contraband, with an open market arrangement, your military generals would likely be able to have access to goods /2324/ restricted, if you wanted to write lore about it. That's basically what I said.
Should the markets close however, any liberation movement will have access to outside material backing... Or, at the very least, /2324/ will have a heaploads of trouble to deal with, enough not to make it worth it.
>>29538811
I guess we'll have our first taste of /nasfaqg/'s shadow wars, and a show of how companies forged in a merciless, ruthlessly competitive environment function.

>>29538569
/mans/ kneels out of respect, o wise emperor!

>>29538811
That being said... not sure if P.I.O. could close the markets alone, especially driving away merchants already there. It'd have to come from the Shogun, or go through the board, over half of whom is owned by foreign interest.

Just want to say that in IRL some big CEO or boss getting someone to suck them off under the desk would be frowned upon but in MY country as long as you pay us in nuts and we are allowed to leave if we choose to then it is totally acceptable. Nasfaqg if you ever dream about fucking that hot secretary then come on down to /risu/ darlings. Just make sure there is no slavery. Risuners are VERY anti slavery and will go apeshit if they discover you dont pay them/keep them against your will. (why would you need risuner slaves when they love to fuck anyway desu)

I have been noticing that /meat/ has been the largest contributor of esoteric lore.
Should we put up a vote to reassign /meat/'s threat level?
After various meme-magic incidents
>converted 4 chuubas into /here/
>making Milky Way mention cannibalism after linking her
>making Pippa and Lumi into ryonafags
I have a hunch they are not what it seems.

>>29538679
Well, the future God-Emperor knows the history of his own nation and learned under the great Pomerlane himself. Pomerlane, despite being funded by bankers, isn't telling the young boy that or at least is telling him that you can only trust your own people. Of course he hates Nasfaq because of that.
>>29538922
My future leader is tutored by Pomerlane and believes that the disaster that befell his nation came from corporate greed and foreign interferrance. I fully understand how all of this works given my RL job as a Finanical Consultant and from working with stocks. I am speaking as my leader not as myself. It seems illogical to us, but this makes a good story.

>>29539065
Less that half of the investors, and all of them come from Pomerania, a nation that does not like (((Nasfaq))). The Bankers from Pomerania are competitors with Nasfaq anyways.

>>29538962
From the power of Sol Luminius, we shall triumph.

Economics are such a headache to look at, trading with other nations sounds fucking terrifying if it’s all going to be this complicated.

>>29539105
We are also preparing for the ascension of two /asp/ candidates into /meat/heres.
We, the Matiyotl people, are doing this out of our greater good.

>>29538922
>Realizing what I was planning this whole time while people thinking I was just shitposting
FINALLY SOME ONE UNDERSTANDS

Im so glad I made risuner economy similar to 40k orks in that corporate greed is literally impossible due to the november nut tribute and that you cant hoard money. Fuck your capitalism we dont have to worry about that shit. We are the most superior economy in the world and you all look down upon us while we just keep winning.
>>29539382
Abandon economics eat nuts.

>>29539463
>Let's see your economy Paul Allen. ohhhh.... sorry it is so small hahaha

>>29539105
Sorry buddy it seems everyone is too busy with economics to hear you plea

>>29538569
>slaves to money
The true NASFAQ spirit is exemplified in that it's not the money that is your goal, it's making money. That is the ultimate path of self-enlightenment for the individual. The endless expanse of capital is merely a reflection of one's exceptional abilities. That is the 'Golden Path'. Disclaimer: Not everyone subscribes to this line of thinking, this is solely Epoch's stance.
>>29539262
Mmmm, I suppose that can be the case with non-Holo nations. In Holo nations, most corporations are technically native, since there aren't many traders or plutocrats that would identify solely with /nasfaqg/, and those who do mostly carve our a piece of the financial exchange rather than engaging in multinational corporations.

Just want to say that inspite of how harshly this thead shat on her the other day, Alice is a wonderful addition to the dynamics of this thread and world because she isn't afraid to get into conflicts with others on purpose. Too many wimps

>>29539535
>small economy
We buildin boats, we mining iron, we paying each other in nuts, trade is flourishing, we learning from foreign powers and are protected by them. Our "small" economy is massive and our population is expanding rapidly. As well as our fleet and our knowledge. In language that you can understand, /risu/ is an extremely undervalued pennystock that will soon explode into popularity and those who did not get in early are gonna get fucked. And not in the good way.

>>29539621
Just you wait...

>>29539590
Making money is not the path of self enlightenment but self destruction. There was once an Emperor named Procopius the Greedy, or the Butterlord, who believed such things, only to die in the the most humiliating way possible for a man like that, a beggar in the streets of Antiocheia. The true Golden Path is the Path of the Sol. Through him, the powers of the gods are realized, and soul is purified. Those who seek the path of righteousness through him shall find victory and eternal life.

>>29539888
A man whose power and wealth was hereditary, ending begging and wasted on the streets? He would not make it for even two days in /nasfaqg/. The only reaction this story will get in NASFAQ, in the immortal words of many great men and women:
Skill issue.

>>29539735
>Your economy is nothing but a drop in the bucket. You will explode alright! From the reality of this world hitting such an insignifcant treerrat as yourself. Those ships? Worthless. The nuts? Found everywhere. Your iron? Common. Knowledge? Don't make me laugh! Your economy could be in ruins from a shortage of nuts! You will get fucked and I wont be the only one fucking you either, and I don't mean in a fun way for you either treerrat. Get the lube, Cunt.

>>29540053
A mere skill issue? It is a moral issue. Your society will not survive either, it will collaspe like the corrupt husk of morality and sin that it is! You have built a house on sand, and when the tide comes in, you shall be taken out with it!

>>29539888
>Butterlord
KEK

>>29540132
if by lube you mean carefully designed chemicals used to insanely speed up the growth of nut trees and bushes, as well as increase their yield 10 fold, while also poisoning them and their produce, making /risu/ incapable of growing any more in a decade or so, I have shipments already loaded.

are you fags done funposting? what happened to worldbuilding as the priority?

>>29537793
I want to introduce you to beer nuts, which is the best snack.

>>29540533
Here's you daily (you), now back to the corner with you.

>>29540532
>Naturally, we have our own means of greasing his economy too. We shall be vessel for the demise of these silly treerrats.

>>29540132
>worthless ships
Pinisi do what they are designed to do and have served well.
>nuts found everywhere
Thats kind of the fucking point kek.
>Common iron
Yes our bog iron is shit quality but we do with what we have. This is your only argument
>Knowledge
Like our population our knowledge is expanding. All we need is time.
>Shortage of nuts
You just said our nuts are found everywhere. We will NEVER be in a shortage of nuts. We will always have our nuts and when we run out we just go collect more nuts.
>>29540532
which is it. Also you assured me you wouldn't make a nation just to fuck with mine. Unless you want to be burned to the ground.

>>29540660
>Risuner threatens another nation and claims his shitty stuff is actually useful!

>>29540268
/nasfaqg/ society sorts the wheat from the chaff; the exceptional and able thrive, while those with insufficient ability burn out. If a man falls, it is his own hubris and insufficient ability that brought him down; that is the kind of environment that forges diamonds, stronger than zealotry or collectivist cannon fodder.
It has survived for centuries, carried on the shoulders of giants. If your grubby Emperor couldn't make it, think of your "moral" society and how it upholds those who are incompetent at the top.

may i offer some hooman?

>>29540660
Why can't it be both? Short term effect is that the growth of seeds that are introduced to the chemical will be explosively speed up, and throughout their life, they will yield a lot more produce. Those seeds, however, will not bear a Sapling, neither with your chuubanite or our chemicals.

Also, burning our shit? Boy my armies are made out of stone. Come at me.

>>29540887
You're pretty good!

>>29540938
Not to mention, you have my fleet at your disposal to punish the treerrats if they start, my partner in crime.

>>29540938
>>29541006
kronies, morig, and trade alliance will protect us! we never stop winning

>Sana and /nasa/ leaves.
>Suddenly more wars.

Well, I hope there's room in the world for space bread recipes.

>>29541101
As amusing it it would be to see those nations support Risu in a suicide mission they started, that's not what would happen if Risu started anything.

>>29541101
I ask kronies and deadbeats, are these claims true? Would you assist them in an unprovoked war they started?

>>29541221
Kronies and Morig have strong ass navies. They absolutely would.

>>29541329
i would not exactly call it unprovoked if they send chemicals over to ruin their whole forests and nuts

>>29541466
Not to mention that whole thing about "not producing saplings" wouldnt work. We would just get shit from somewhere else and repopulate the forests.

>risu is going to be /vtwbg/ serbia of little shit that sets off the powder keg of international tension betting on alliance backup
I think Rosebud is gonna get his trenches sooner than he expected...

>>29541450
Fresh

I just want to pet a dragoon.

>>29541466
It was gift shipment meant in goodwill. I guess it must be something in their soil that alters the effects, for we use the same chemicals in our own lands.

>>29541737
yeah, I don't think that "serbia" here understands how the big boys play.