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>Clothing
What does the average Joe wear daily? Any formal dress impacted by tradition/culture? Is fashion being split by class or regional differences? Climate or other fantastical wackery making certain attire a necessity? Paint us a clearer picture of who you'll see walking through the streets!
>Food
What crops do your people grow for consumption? What about the food you import, and from where? Do you have unique delicacies? What are the common snacks or meals for the working class, or the rich and powerful? Any food reserved for ritual purposes? How about etiquette when eating? Any special practices during mealtime?
>Entertainment
What kinds of entertainment is popular for your people? How important are they seen as part of life? Do different class people have sufficiently different tastes? How much do the chuuba gods play a role in these entertainments?
>Religion
What religious rituals does your nation have to worship its deities? What's the religious structure look like? What's the official stance on other faiths?
>Alcohol and Drink
what do your people drink and what's is it made from? what sort of culture is there around drinking in your split?
>Development
What are your nation's current goals now? What are you trying to aim for in your development? Would said development make your people happy?
>Funeral Rites
How do your people observe the death of one of their own? What kind of ceremonies are held? How are their belongings handled?
>Music
What kind of musical instruments/music does your nation make/use?
>Name
Does your thread's nation have any naming conventions? What are people named, and why? Do names have meaning? Do people have surnames, and how are those derived?
>Politics
How does the balance of power look in your nation? who are the ruling/most powerful class? Who are they competing with?
>Superstition/Folklore
What sort of superstitions/folklore do your nation's people have, as in, are there things that the people believe in or things they think they know to be real that are not real on a meta level? What are omens of good or bad fortune? What mythical monsters lurk in the forests, or in the depths of the sea? Do some foods or materials have to be prepared in a certain way before they are seen as fit to use?
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>>29403536
>Fixed vote archive link
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>>29454494
Since I am the one who started the theory, I will tell you exactly where she got that quote from because I literally saw it when I looked up the map for this.
>"165. Next comes the Tyro tribe and, on the Red Sea, the harbour of the Daneoi, from which Sesostris, king of Egypt, intended to carry a ship-canal to where the Nile flows into what is known as the Delta; this is a distance of over 60 miles. Later the Persian king Darius had the same idea, and yet again Ptolemy II, who made a trench 100 feet wide, 30 feet deep and about 35 miles long, as far as the Bitter Lakes"- Pliny the Elder

>>29454700
>Later the Persian king Darius had the same idea, and yet again Ptolemy II, who made a trench 100 feet wide, 30 feet deep and about 35 miles long, as far as the Bitter Lakes
This is followed by this tidbit.
>Although Herodotus (2.158) tells us Darius I continued work on the canal, Aristotle (Aristot. met. I 14 P 352b.), Strabo (Strab. XVII 1, 25 C 804. 805.), and Pliny the Elder (Plin. n. h. VI 165f.) all say that he failed to complete it,[16] while Diodorus Siculus does not mention a completion of the canal by Necho II.[17]
Also, a mere trench wouldn't do the job. You're probably familiar with hydrography, so you can see on the map that the canal would join the sea to the source of a river, IE elevation. We don't have exact numbers on how much elevation, but even if it's only a hill's worth, this would translate to complex locks over a long distance, and complex locks with those dimensions were unheard of.

>We're getting season 2 of the Canal Wars Saga
Here we go again.

>>29454949
It's almost nostalgic...

>>29454946
Let me do some research on the OG Suez Canal before I make a good judgement here. This land is rather flat although that can be misleading. I am inclined to believe its about as flat as Egypt (which requires locks)

>>29454949
What a wonderful feeling.
Wellp... I'm gonna hit the hay. See ya, /meat/heads!
Be sure to keep the thread alive!!

>>29455122
Sadly, it is literally impossible for it to be flat if you want the source of a major river to be there. Rivers have to flow down to the ocean's surface. A line between the oceanic coastline and the source of a river will always be a slope. It's misleading because this change in elevation is not represented, it's all just green, but that's just because the topographical map only has a few colors to play with.

>>29455260
I know, but that doesn't mean this can't work out (the canal can avoid the source of the river for example). Let me continue with research on the ancient Suez Canal and I will at least try to offer a perspective that could be useful as I think this is feasible from the perspective of a long term national project (I doubt you can run anything bigger than a merchantman up it).

>>29455418
Yeah, more research is more good. Some sort of canal can probably be worked out, I just think passing ships-of-the-line through there would require an anachronistic civil engineering project.

>>29455418
if i may also suggest some reading up on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canal_du_Midi

while the dimensions are also of course smaller than what alice wants i think this might at least be somewhat closer to what she is looking for.

nonetheless this would be a massive nationwide project costing immense resources and of course, time

>>29455563
It is. I think if I am honest this canal would have been something done much earlier than current date anyways for obvious reasons. Ships of the Line aren't possible either imo.

Upon further review and consideration given to the scale and scope, I have come to the conclusion that a canal like this, while immensely expensive and would take two generations to build, could be done. However, it would not be able to have ships of the line transit it without MAJOR investment. Unlike say the Kronie-Risu canal, this would be an internal national project that is feasible from that aspect. This would be around 200 km long, which is in between the Ancient Suez and the Canal du Midi and I think the terrain would likely be more like Egypt than Southern France. That being said, She will have to write about how this works, there will be locks in this and the big problem is connecting it to the river actually. If she can write something good about this, I do approve since this is a long term nation project that would be worth it for a nation like 2434 as having merchantmen transit this canal would cut time drastically, even if was only barges.

>>29455050
Man, we really have the worst times to catch each other, huh? Was just about to get ready for work. And the answers would require some time to write up. One that is simple is:
>the material for the golem would need to be present when the golem is forged.
That was always the plan, we would carve up the battlefields as we raise more and more golems. They wouldn't just poof out of thin air. And since the rules for it's shape/size would be in the circuit, we could just write it on the ground and activate it, and it would be OK. Also, as much as I hate it, because it might force me to interact with paragraphsanon, I am OK with chuubanite being used in our ink. And as for different inks, that's where our normal alchemy comes into place. If you have the time, I honestly really recommend Witch Hat Atelier, it delves a bit into that as well, and it was major inspiration for the idea.

That's it for now, might get the time to answer other points when I'm on break at work, but just so we don't lose it, mind posting it in this thread as well?

>>29456323
Don't worry Cunt, I have fully internalized the chuubanite system while also not being paragraphsanon, I can receive your concerns and inquiries.
Also, he *is* getting better. Gambare paragraphsanon!

Also, soft, gentle breeding sex with cutiegoon with plenty of cuddles after. This is now my ritualpost, deal with it.

And regarding some of the Risu dates, from a general perspective, I don't entirely know why Risu is cut off from the rest of the world until the Kronies. Someone please explain this to me because its hard to imagine /morig/ having no idea about them.

>>29456450
You read my updated history yet bro?
https://rentry.org/dxd8w

>>29456471
Yeah.... that makes no fucking sense whatsoever considering risu is in the middle of a fucking landbridge. dont think that was thought about in the past at all.

>>29456471
They're not entirely cut off, like the Tunnelhogs, it's more like no one really bothers with them and they don't bother with anyone. /morig/ was aware there was some sort of tribal people living there, but didn't really investigate, we were too busy fighting schizos and /meat/heads. Probably threw captured Risuners back on the shores of /risu/ a couple times. The extent of Risuner society was probably also underestimated because they mostly live in the center of the forests, while the settlements on the coasts and outskirts were diminutive.

>>29456577
Everything makes sense once you explain it, this is what worldbuilding is.

>>29454310
>he forgot the A in the word Anchor
>>29456323
uh sure? what do you want me to post? A summary of the preliminary plan for how magnation's magic would work?
Btw, working on trying to forge some sort of summary on the slight cultural differences between the four peoples. Might serve as an inspiration for the various types of magic, though I have a hard time especially seeing an Axelotle using any sort of magic.

Speaking of Paragraphsbro, can I get a rundown on what he and Meatbro were discussing? I was away when the cabal had a meeting.

>>29456520
Oh fuck there's MORE?! ffs, gimme time, probably gonna be answering things for rep on break so this is for tommorow.

>>29456607
That's the only thing that could make sense to me. Albeit I feel like this would be slightly out of place during the timeperiod. It's not like the Romans didn't know anything about the Irish. Not my problem to make sense of it if everyone else is fine with it either.

>>29456725
Well, you don't have to honestly. This was for Dragoonbro because he is going to do the History of Haha.

Whelp. My plan to wake up early today failed. I guess I better stay up for two days to reset my sleep schedule.

So how are things going in worldbuilding?

>>29456815
Good bro, aside from me being sexually harrased last thread. I have seen some good work today by other anons

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>>29456790
Oh ffs, now I have to do it...

>>29456749
>>29456471
>>29456471
>>29456577
because we're a bunch of south american-abo tribals. nobody gave a fuck about us until Kronies came

>>29456749
Yeah, the way I see it, it's less that no one knew anything about them, and more that no one made the effort to study them more closely. Their close neighbors would have known "Oh yeah, weird tribes of people with tails there. Never really looked into it, they don't seem to have anything valuable." Probably helps that this is on the far outskirts of the HoloEmpire, where efforts to civilize could have been close to nil.

if OGrisuner is still here, there would be 2 Issues about the timeline with the RetroReich

we would first establish connections in 1124 and Neriah would visit in 1127

Alright!!! Canal. No ships of line, but merchants SOUNDS GOOD. I will write on that and the company things
>>29454408
>Could you use the company template since one is in use? It's in the archive. Other than that, I'm not sure if giving precise numbers is that worthwhile. Especially when it comes to warships/army. There's a severe lack of insight into how the company actually functions and what its economic activity is. If I were to read this without context I'd assume it details a military unit, not a company. Finally, is a company State-Owned if it's a venture capital company with over half of its worth owned by foreign investors?
Be patient, I have Womanness and am trying to figure it out as I go along. I am not even sure how it totally works yet.

>>29456865
Well there's always a huggable bread dog if you ever feel distressed.

>>29457025
in fact Neriah probably came in 1128

since the trifleet is what the onobots initially confused as someone comign to visit and why they waited months at the harbor for the risuners and them arriving in /who/ was where tehy got a letter from a onobot diplomat from there

>>29414827
Cool read. Judging from the name, I'm assuming the city is Aggaya? That would make sense considering his view of the city's prosperity, since Aggaya is supposed to be the city where a lot of the medium-high tier rich people hang out at, and the city is functionally the "gate" through the eastern nasfaqgian strait.

Interested to hear more!

>>29456471
afaik, pre-infinity contact /risu/ was basically stone-age tribes living in the middle of a dense forest. Their existence was known, but the area likely was not interesting to anyone before infinity helped the tribes unify and actually build something more permanent.

>>29444310
Sorry I was touching grass.
I dont think I've ever heard of the K.A.G. Whats that? Do you have stuff about it in the archives for me to check?
It looks fine to me on the surface. 25 000 men in the army is a bit of a ??? but then again, I do not know much about realistic army sizes for the time period so me questioning it may be unjustified. Same applies to the number of ships.

If someone knows better, do clarify it to me!

I'd really like to know what Chronobanks being an investor and a major shareholder means for Chronobanks interactions with the C.I.O.

>>29456686 (me)
Also, I can see all the four states having in common that they claim ancestry in some way to their respective legendary figure who was once a mere human but ascended through various feats. For example, taking a bit from cunt's plans, the royal family leading the Altventurers would claim direct decent akin to how the royal family of Japan pre-wwii claimed divine lineage. Perhaps Axelotles claim their city state was formed through a slave rebellion lead by Axel, deposing a tyrant with his own bare hands (taking vague inspirations from the Third Servile War). Not sure for the Vesties, unless I lean heavilly into the castlevania-eque esthetic and claim it's ruled by a nobility of vampires (lite edition, without the immortality but also without the weaknesses besides the need for blood) who claim to originally have been sired by "The Grand Father" or something.

>Metagaming and its consequences has been a disaster for organic lore progression.
I kind of foresaw this when Risuners chose to head out for extremely faraway locations that had reps such as /nasa/ and /rose/ and not their close immediate neighbors, which sadly do not have reps.
The real world equivalent would be the Mapuche, immediately after interacting with the conquistadores, going to travel to Japan instead of Brasil mext door.

>>29457157
>I'd really like to know what Chronobanks being an investor and a major shareholder means for Chronobanks interactions with the C.I.O.
I am working that out. I am not even sure if I want to have Chronobanks involved because it just makes it more confusing for me as PPsenpai told me that we have bankers from Pomerania in our lands that do business!!! As for 25,000 men I made that number because we are probably having shit happen in phase and need the men and the ships!!!

>>29457157
Hi nasfaqronie!!

>>29457157
K.A.G. isn't made yet... I am still figuring it out along with investors and economics.

>>29457246
its sadly the limitation of the project as it is.

there is so much i would love to do with nations from the indie continent but with no reps of the nations i feel bad to simply declare stuff on my own

>>29457246
One of the good thing is the Nijireps coming in and doing local interactions with each other. It's refreshing to see 2434 act like a naval power would honestly.

Damnit! I forgot to remove the trip for that post!

>>29457086
I'll fix it when I get home then.

>>29457246
Truth be told, a lot of handwaving needs to be done with the risu things. It's not their fault either. I'll let them handwave someone getting to Rose with little ships that probably can't hold up to the harsh winds down there for the sake of lore.

>>29457333
You don't always have to anchor an idea as soon as it comes to you, you know. For some of these lore stubs of yours you might be better off introducing the idea to the thread and asking for help/opinions before you run off and write the rentries, similarly to how the magbros are doing it right now.

>>29457246
I personally really like that about /risu/. I dont think risuners are meant to make that much logical sense, they are meant to be a nation of attention deficit sex addicted squirrelfolk. The risuners do not care about exploring the world in the most logical or efficient way possible, they hear a rumor of there being some interesting locations or people on the other side of the globe and they enter a state of single-minded focus trying to get there, even if it is "stupid" by outsider standards.

Obvs, not a /risu/ rep, but this is how i have seen them. Sort of.

>>29457280
Im being thrown out? Completely? Nyo...


>>29457318
hello! Hi!

>>29457509
Problem is... I am like Rosesenpai in that I end up slacking off or accidently closing tabs. ive done it like 5 times and i have to anchor them.
>>29457532
i don't know how to make sense of it now, maybe i get you back in when it makes sense to me more. i need to study this intensely and wait for phase.

>>29456686
Oh, just your last post from the previous thread. Phoneposting can be a bitch for responding, specially if I have to quote and actually think about answers.

alright so based on the risuners timelien i tried making sense of all happenings of the Retro Reich so far and this is what i came up with:

XXXX - Retro Reich supports /2434/ in its war efforts against /pcg/, a few months later the Retro Reich withdraws frm /pcg/ due to the hostile reaction towards the Retro Reich's for its involvement in the war.

1110 - Retro Reich begins construction on the battle zeppelin

1111 - Retro Reich establish a deeper trading relationship with the Owl Republic

1112 - Retro Reich establish a deeper trading relationship with /morig/

1124 - Retro Reich with efforts from /meat/ founds the trading alliance together with /risu/ and /inf/

1127 - Bolts migrates into Lamington and begins living in its walls

1128 - /risu/ visits the Retro Reich

1128 - Retro Reich sends a spie to learn about /uuu/ and how to befriend them

>>29457588
Do you not have local copies of your writing and files? Have you just been writing them directly in rentry? That's, uh. A dangerous life you lead.

>>29457246
>>29457025
dont make me tap the sign

>>29457509
For the record, K.A.G. isn't even in a rentry, just mentioned to my knowledge. She only has a few stubs, like maybe 2 or 3. I think the culture one is one that gets improved over time but the OP wasn't hers, the story seemed like it was going nowhere and the opening lore thing she did needs revised imo.

>>29457532
I mean pretty much this. Kek.

>>29457318
>>29457428
>the one who kept calling the kronies dorks is founder senpai
HHAHAHAH

>>29457646
i think you are tapping toawrds the wrong post or what does the timeline got to do with magic?

Risuners would also not have a writing system too, i realize now.

>>29457630
1102 is end of the war, 1097 is start of war.
>>29457632
I do save them locally now. but i find it better to get an idea that i have thought over into the archive and then update as it goes along , as it helps my brain.

>>29457779
Just use words EZ.

Is the Trade Alliance solely concern with /Risu/?????

>>29457833
i am sorry but could you rephrase that?

>>29457855
When you refer to the "Trade Alliance" it is inf retro and meat correct? What is the purpose? Is it a trade alliance in general or just localized to Risu.

>>29457630
Are you going to wage a proxy war in Phase against 2434 or fund pirates to attack them?

>>29457828
holy shit why didnt I thought of that!!!

>>29457616
Alright
>got back from nowa's stream and getting some dinner. I like the ideas posted as a whole, but I kinda fear it leans a bit heavily into what would've been fitting if w were just /mag/ still. I can absolutely see it existing as a founding myth believed by the people of the Magpolis(?)

>I'm also a smidge worried about the powerlevel of the size and amount of golems we're talking about here. I'd suggest that in the fashion of equal exchange, the material for the golem would need to be present when the golem is forged.

>Also to continue (partly to see if we're on the same page and some of my own suggestions) while basic instructions such as "wack anything that doesn't wear these colors" could be done autonomously, anything more complex would require manual control. However, just to make it so that we can't just go full AoT rumbling with the amount produced, I'd suggest that the ink itself requires quite extensive effort to make and might require very finite resources. If anything, it's here that I would suggest getting chubanite involved if anything/anywhere.

>Also the amount of people with glove cloaks would likely not be that many. Not catalognaut-tier rare, but still greatly outnumbered unless the population of Magpolis was much smaller than the others (which to me would be weird since he's arguably the most popular in the thread.)

I think my best solution in Risu in the future is just make a deal with Inf to use their facilities. Things are looking like Inf is more of an ally of use than enemy anyways.

>>29458066
Agreed. You have a ton of power to really shake things up diplomatic with other nations if you play your cards right.

>>29457752
he's right tho they are dorks.
Although the mental image of Nasfaqgronie and ABronie being bullied by a shota meathead is hilarious

>>29458027 (me)
Also, if we hadn't started to go the golem route, I had idea of fleshcrafting at first, what with the spore stream coming up. Pic related was a happy coincidence of that.

>>29458066
Yes... Polarize the Inf-Morig axis world balance further, excellent... The spark will be in /risu/, as ordained by the Indie Sea Scrolls...

>Moshi Moshi? This is 2434 calling Inf.

>>29458220
Morig stated earlier they are going to war with mans when they come in and I have a friendship on the table, so I am preparing already. It's not just those two on an axis, you need to add 2434 there too.

>>29458202
I mean...do those two routes have to be mutually exclusive?

Question is how did /inf/ hear of /nasa/'s crash? Unless they have really good telescopes to see /nasa/ a continent away I can't see it.

>>29457895
/risu/ is a part of the trade alliance.

the initial goal of the trade alliance was just so slaves could be send from /meat/ to the Retro Reich to be processed for BBQs. but as the deal was negotiated and the road in /risu/ was settled as the way to go for the trade it expanded for /meat/ and the Retro Reich to use as a central point so that /meat/ could deliver goods they trade inside the Gulf there while the Retro Reich brigns goods from the indie continent and the western holo continent.
/risu/ became a part of this sicne they provide the location and are allowed to purchase goods taxfree as well as aquire jobs for stuff liek hauling stuff ect to earn some extra gems or nuts for themselves. /inf/ became a part of it since they provided the initial cities that the trade alliance would use as well as allow expansion within them to accomodate /meat/ and the Retro Reich additional traffic they cause. they also allow the Retro Reich to stop on the /inf/ island wich makes traveling easier for our crews as well as allow us to trade goods with them like clockworks and kronii milk which we otherwise would have no access to. in return we also sell stuff to them when we make stops there. overall the trade alliance has tax exemption towards each other to further support trade with each other even outside of /risu/

>>29457949
no why should we? they helped us in defendign our allies against /pcg/, we have healthy trade with them ourselves, tho i guess since that one deal was because of the city in /risu/ we probably need to redo that one, and sicne they so far only are active in /pcg/ they are also not impeding on our strong relationships and trades we have on the indie continent.

>>29458437
The station might have orbited the planet once before crashing, so everyone got a look.

>>29458455
I always assumed me you and vshojo just made a sphere of influence agreement over there anyways. OH and how would you like to set up trade with us? I think our interests mostly align globally and I forgor what our deal even was...

Looking more like a /morig/-/2434/ axis than a /morig/-/inf/ access honestly.

>>29458660
>implying it hasn't always been a /morig/-/meat/ axis
2434 and inf are just puppets of the /meat/ globalist juden!

Hello everyone, it's been a while. I think I can finish the chuubanite doc by tomorrow or the day after but, uh. No promises, given the amount of times I've had things come up immediately after promising similar. Is paragraphsanon's word salad chuubanite rentry still up to date? No other things on this topic have been discussed, yes? What else have I missed in the past week?

>femboys have the best cum texture
Babe, dont talk to me unless you can squeeze ramen outta your dick

>>29458580
our initial goal was that:

1. Retro Reich interfierces if /inf/ get uppity towards /2434/ within /risu/ and vice versa

2. Reduced tax towards each other to have healthy and good trade with each other and to make breaking this agreement for both sides if it ever coems to it less desireable

the deal basicly was there to strong arm a bit the mutual trust situation in /risu/ and create a situation where the aggressor always has to deal with 2 parties at once on the east coast and to also start friendly relations with our nations since at the time this would have been our first itneraction before the /pcg/ retroactive thing

>>29458776
>We don't like /meat/ but can tolerate them.
No the real globalists are /nasfaq/ and p*meranian bankers!!!!

>>29458822
There's been some discussions, but I think they've all been added to the document.

>>29458822
Welcome back!! Hope you’re doing alright!

>>29458402
>Magmate Alchemists sometimes make these as commissions by the Altventurer royal family to have as pets, who know full well what these creatures are, using criminals and prisoners of war
On a side note, I'm not sure about the name altventurer for these people, since we already are supposed to be a land with a lot of adventurers from the four states. Would it be wrong to shorten it to altvers or something?

>>29458862
Wrong thread…?

>>29458880
Well... we don't have that anymore since I pulled out of Risu (Might just get rights to Demeter). What would you have in mind? Establish trade offices and lower tariffs????

>>29458862
uhhhhhhhhhhhh

>>29458933
>>29458957
don't give it attention

>>29458862
CUNT!!

then again... i would rather just form a third path than join an axis... we stand by /mans/ as our friends and neighbors but that is it...

>>29459016
probably the other risuner shithead

>>29458822
Welcome back. The kindred had questions for you regarding the military, architecture and resources. Some chuubanite discussions occurred but the "word salad" rentry should be up to date. PPanon mentioned wanting to leave his nations' chuubanite to you. I think that's all that's relevant to you. The thread mostly spent the week having ungodly amounts of arguments.

>>29459143
Let's not make Comfy carry everything yet. Give my bro some time. I can wait on Chuubanite hoenstly.

>>29459091
Well, LazuLight would be more interested in such an axis given that we are close friends as well. Not to mention Pomeranian investment in your India Company gives us a reason.

>>29459291
Are we allowed to operate from Ninisani ports with our ships????

>>29458954
a new deal that i think would be beneficial to both us would be:

/2434/ agrees to not expand their sphere of influence on the indie continent outside of /pcg/ and in return the Retro Reich would take orders from /2434/ and deliver them to your port in /pcg/ with lower tariffs

and in return the Retro Reich would not expand its sphere of influence on the nijicontinent and would Order goods directly from /2434/ from there wich you then delive rto your port in /pcg/ for us to pick up, also with lower tariffs.

that way we both basicly safe spending resources that we would need to expand on far away lands and we both still get the benefit of trading, does that sound ok?

Ask the Empress and the respective Prince where you would want such access. (Really just the Prince, the Empress can write a strongly worded letter but not much more since we are already friends.)

>>29459482
Yes anchor it please in a rentry so we can remember.

>>29459482
well we also should think about just a spheres of influence thing there, let me show you real fast.

>>29459016
I will skin you alive! When have I ever posted anything remotely similar?!

>>29458887
Oh, just took a look. Pretty interesting stuff. As far as I can tell this hasn't changed any of the fundamental rules of chuubanite, it's just clearly defining how glyphs can be used to communicate variable, non-objective information through the conceptual realm, yes?
>>29458891
Thank you! Life's a bit hectic for me at the moment but yes, I'm doing alright.
>>29459143
Thanks for the QRD as always, anon!

Are the kindred who had questions for me still here? I haven't had any time to work on my lore docs at all but I do have fairly clear ideas on all those subjects, so if you lot still have questions for me I can definitely answer.
>>29459201
I'd have no problem handling your nations' chuubanite for you, but as you've already surmised, you'll be waiting on it quite a bit if it's left in my hands.

>>29459482
>>29459548
>>29459631
From worldbuilding, this makes sense. (we really are doing anything in aeg either, its just symbolic that this was result of the treaty.

Also I see we already have a rep for /mans/. This is exciting! Anon, would you be interested in trade relations with /nenmen/? Specifically in regards to magical research. We have our own purple magic boys over here, after all. Nothing concrete for now since it sounds like you're still setting up and so am I, I'm just gauging interest.

>>29459837
Comfysenpai, we all could work together on this together since 2434 has Magical Chuubas and is friends with Mans!!!!!!!

Where is the Magic is Everything Poster when you need him?

>>29459878
Hm? Have you changed your mind back to chuuba-based chuubanite instead of one kind of chuubanite for your whole nation?

>>29459950
idk what to do honestly.... but with Yorumi, and our chemists it could make sense .... maybe just need your advice,

>>29459792
i actually want to talk about mousefren but i keep missing him because so far the way i understood it, they nation is the military powerhouse of the indie continent while the retro reich is the trading powerhouse but i wanted to confirm that with him in regards of if that is true and how much they care about trade at all.

>>29459657
I mostly had questions about the climate and resources personally, I’m not sure how involved in any of that you are though. Cunt asked about the architecture of homes in Luxuria and I told him that unfortunately I’m not all that well-versed in architecture (styles, materials, techniques, anything) and that maybe someone else like you or other Nijis could weigh in on that. I don’t have any questions on the military atm so somebody else may have asked about that.

>>29460046
That's my plan too. I thought this would make the most sense considering the events of the war...

>>29459657
>Oh, just took a look.
That's pretty much it, yeah. Another way to say it, how chuubanite can "read" more complex information when encoded into glyphs. It's formalization of concepts that were already floating around, really.

>>29459651
the post mentioned femboy discussion the first person I know who dropped that word is you

>>29460077
I think the general thing we thought out was simply that it would be some weird Roman-Japanese style as the names of the towns shows.Well what I am saying, we never talked about architicture, this is just me musing about it.

>>29459837
I'll have to think about it, especially since I want to wait until we've received our placement before I start to hammer things in properly. I will say that at least the magmates will probably be interested and would likely try to pressure the rest of the league to open up trade for the sake of 'mutual progress in the science of magic' or something along those lines

>>29460108
i wanna know msotly because if they actually want to care about trade then the way the retro reich handles the southern half of it changes, so far i always assumed at least when it comes to the coast nations we would have been the big one there too.

with the war of course we would leave /pcg/ to you entirely but we stil would want our relations with other nations intact there since we would have traded there for centuries already.

>>29460255
FYI, Cunt already has a deal with 2434 on the table that I think gets accepted when you come into existence.

>>29460276
never thought the trade would change since we agree to work together.... idk anymore.

Did someone say Risu canal

>>29460385
Alice, /pcg/ is pratically India. You will have more than you can consume if you went with these zones of influence. Hell, Retro Reich and Vshojo couldnt do it either.

>>29460541
India is /ggg/

>>29458248
Inf is about to go back to waging, talk to you in about an hour and a half!

>>29460539
>>29458248
>The phone is ringing.

>>29460602
>Ok. we have important news to discuss with you.

>>29460603
>licks the phone

>>29460385
the thing is, if you actively try to aaggressively secure trade agreements on the indie continent then of course that would be a huge problem to us, it would potentially hurt relationships we have with nations if suddenly the resources we have access to get reduced due to that.

the same would happen if we expanded more actively on the niji continent, you would lose your monopolies over there and compete with us.

that is why i wanted to have the deal thsi way sicne that way both of our nations stay off the hometurf of the other and not mess with relations over there while we both still get the benefit of having access to the resources of a whoel different continent with better than average rates. we both loose a bit in tariffs with what we sell ourselves but in return we win security and pay less to buy from the other person.

>>29460672
I see the point you and pp made, I agree. I was just thinking how the we would agree at end of war but i think is underestimate land.

>>29460588
/ggg/ is Indian Atlantis. Hopefully it falls into the SEA too kek.

so are we seriously letting 2434 have a fucking canal after that timeloop just like that? ffs.

>>29460742
if there is one thing in the future that i might want to ask if it could be excluded in the future if we ever get a rep form anya-petra if it would be fine if we make deals with them since their thread was very ncie to us when /vrt/ first started out and supported our efforts and when at time it looked like /vrt/ is unable to survive and doomed to die they even invited us to join them in their thread and expand for us and i really would liek to be on good terms with a rep of that thread if one ever comes.

>>29460911
it's more of a setting thing
The canal wont be done in 60 years
It's like a lore point, not a functional canal

>>29460911
I want you to tell me how this is the same thing as the risu canal when this is a national work, is less distance and is feasible considering everything i have seen (no ships of the line)

>>29460295
Has he? I must've missed that. I vaguely recall a guarantee of independence...

>>29461020
It was more than that, it involved the use of their merchantmen for export of your shit at fee too. That's a great deal for both of you.

>>29460255
Perfectly understandable, as I said I'm still working on setting things up too. I look forward to working with you in the future, if we do at all.
>>29460023
Well, if you want my opinion on it, I definitely think a single kind of chuubanite for your nation is the better idea. You have so many chuubas that if you made chuubanite for each of them, each specific kind would become so rare that you'd have to save up for years to get one spell out of the stuff. I also don't think you should focus too much on magic. This is because you've already spent a lot of time discussing how your country would have advanced tech, and the military faction would also push you in that direction. If you focus on having incredibly advanced magic too, from a meta perspective it risks unbalancing things and from a story perspective, it's a little boring to have your nation just be good at everything. Just because you have chuubas like Yorumi and Ange doesn't mean you'd necessarily have large subsets of the population dedicating their lives to studying things related to the chuubas, either. The existence of a god who rules over x isn't the same as saying the whole nation wants to base their lives around x, if you get what I'm saying.

Remember that you are basing your culture and religion on Shinto, unless you've decided to change that sometime in the past week. Similarly to Shinto, you have an absolutely ridiculous amount of gods. Worship of them wouldn't break off into isolated factions who all have incredibly different lifestyles and cultures the way it has for the NijiEN pantheon because there are simply too many. Most of your people are probably pan-polytheistic, and though people in a specific field might consider one god or another their patron -- like scholars worshipping JKgumi, or the few alchemists you have worshipping Ange -- for the most part they just kind of worship everyone and make prayers/offerings to whoever's most appropriate for the situation.
>>29460077
>resources
I'm working on resources for the whole of nenemen, it's a bit of a mess since I'm in the process of figuring out what needs to be imported, what needs to be exported, and what we might just be trading amongst ourselves. The climate for our entire region is subtropical monsoon. Though winters tend to be dry, the warm weather and wet summers give us a lot of leeway on what crops we can grow assuming care is taken. Was there something specific you had questions about resource-wise? I placed the Holy Kingdom next to a major river for the express purpose of allowing fish to be a staple of the diet, if that was in question. I had the thought that food would essentially end up being what happens when Japanese people try to make Western meals. It looks about right, but the taste ends up distinctly Japanese regardless.
>architecture
It's Sengoku-era Japanese closer to the heart of the Kingdom where Akuma Castle lies -- so lots of brick, white stone faces and such. As you spread outwards towards the edges of the Kingdom, the buildings gradually turn more Greco-Roman. I was thinking since meta-wise there are some Kindred who are really tribalist and others with unicorn tendencies, the deeper you traveled into the Kingdom the more the people would have sort of xenophobic, traditionalist attitudes. Of course, they disguise it as mere religious fervor and claim they are simply upholding the faith.

>>29460983
>>29460983
because it would break worldtrade and make 2434 overpowered.

>>29460911
Not really, but the thread is infested by newfag Nijishills

>>29460995
Eh, since you'll have to either join up with the river lower downstream, or dig the river wider upstream, really the distance is not too dissimilar. The main difference is that it's work within the borders of an already developed country, while the risu canal is work in a foreign country through undeveloped land. I don't recall how wide the /inf/ canal was supposed to be either.

>>29461100
I just wasnt sure, i don't have everything down anyways and I value your input!!!!

>>29461141
All of the “newfag” Nijis have been here for weeks already. Get a new boogeyman.

>>29461159
From my calculations, Risu would have been 350 or 400 km while 2434 is only 200 plus river work. I think the main difference is this is feasibly done before current day and could be around for a while considering the Ancient Suez Canal. Would be costly but worth it imo.
>>29461141
>Nijishills
Try harder.
>>29461139
Explain.

>>29461327
because it would cut trade time down drastically there, why bother going around the north when you can just go through the canal. they could make a fortune through it. idk it sits wrong with me that this is being overlooked like this.

>>29461294
BEES, they are evil

they might lure you in with their sultry honeytalk but they are real stingers and soem of them act liek total queens liek they own everything

>>29461327
Sorry but why aren't you questioning the presence of a 94 guns ship of the line in a newly formed corporation, is it because it's 2324? You were very outspoken about those things before

>the canals are back
NO NO NO MY PTSD FUCK DON’T DO THIS TO ME HAVE MERCY

>>29461085
Well, that would certainly save a good coin for a while, not having to rush out a merchant fleet. I approve, so long as the cut they demanded isn't outrageous. Surely the niji empire wouldn't want to sour first impressions with an unequal treaty. Do you (or anyone else) have a link to the deal?

>>29461327
According to the interactive map, the length varies between around 275 km with no "river work" whatsoever, to up to 500 km depending on where you join back up with the river.
It's definitely in the same ballpark as the risu canal in terms of length.

>>29461442
honestly it isn't even that beneficial. the onyl nations this would circumvent are nijimales and the petra part of anya-petra, and nijimales are heavily intertwined with /2434/, so it actually does not save as much time as one through /risu/ would have.

it also is the most logical position for a canal around that part of the landmass since it is the smallest way to create a canal and it would be done by the one nation over there having a big interest in such a thign in the first place.

and it would take decades to complete so even if we move towards 1130, its not like this will actually have an effect for a very long time even from a meta point.

>>29461449
Yeah

>>29461641
Sorry friend, /inf/ trade with the west must expand

>>29461442
Anon... this isn't world balancing simulator. it is a worldbuilding thread.
>>29461574
>Because its them
No, in fact i think you are missing that this corporation was founded 20 years ago and is involved with its own problems. Fuck man, you have a case if this was literally formed today but its 20 or 30 years in the past now. Is it 94 guns? I thought it was 80 when I checked.

Alice explain why you need ships of the line since I missed this because I was busy with my own shit anyways.

>>29461701
Retrobro, this likely was built in the past and is more important for them as a nation because it allows them to ship shit from the west up the river.
>>29461697
true, I guess my calculations were off then.

>>29461702
here we have one of the msot notorious bees at work, her honeytalk is on a different level than anything ever seen before.

just her being can entice others and with every spoken, drooling with honey with each spoken syllable, she can bring man down to their knees in an instant

i only gave them ships of the line because i thought the company would want to buy some because of the problems in phase.... i will remove them if it is problem...

>>29461800
Yep.
>>29462002
I'll have to think about this because this is in reality different than Nasfaq. Albeit I am leaning to just having the 74s at most and would prefer smaller third rates.That's my opinion.

>>29462115
annnnnddd I've made up my mind. Unless you have it as to the Imperial Navy does not go to Phase, you need to cut down on the number of warships a company has.

>>29462208
can i have time to think this over later.... i dont even know what is going on....

>>29461913
well this having been already been fully done in the past might be a bit more of a problem.

but evne then its not like the canal has the size to let actual ships through, even less oceanready ones so everything moved through it would still need to be put on a ship on the other side anyway so other nations wanting to truly profit from it need either agreements with nations on the other side or have ships sail there anyway. the only ones who can take full benefit are /2434/ so many nations don't even want to use it so much with means less profit for /2434/ already. and /2434/ just dealing on the indie continent 3 decades ago so its not like there was much international trade to be done on the eastern side of the nijicontinent to begin with

I mentioned this during the canal timeloops. A road from coast to coast in /risu/ would be much cheaper to build than a canal. You can transport goods on land which might be slower now. But in the future when we have motor vehicles it'll be just as fast as ships.

>>29462448
We don't know the future in the present. The idea of motor vehicles is not even thought of.

>>29462448
i mean canals are a real thing and had its benefits in the right palces that made sense so it snot like its some totally outlandish idea

i think the msot sense for this is that once the /pcg/ war ended and /2434/ and the retro reich started their dealings there now was a real interest in shortening the time of transport. since /2434/ would now be able to have a good outlet for trade in the east and also receive many goods form there. this would also not only benefit /2434/ but the whole of the inner niji sea because they all now have a heightened interest in trading with /2434/ or make use of their canal whiel also gettign better access to new goods via /2434/ through that canal. sure /2434/ benefits the most of it but they also had to create it

>>29462350
This canal is more like the ancient suez one, where actual merchant traffic can go through it rather than Canal du Midi. That being said, this makes perfect sense for them solely because I find the idea that there was no trade on the east coast to be silly.

>>29462686
yeah, this isn't comparable to the Risu canal because this is more of a national thing. We also don't know the future and truthfully, when we do get to cars, this canal will be like the Kiel Canal.

>>29461100
This is great information, thank you!! One of the other Kindred and I were talking about food earlier and they said something similar about the food being a mix of Western and Japanese cuisine. I’ll look into crops suitable for a somewhat tropical environment. Mangos and pineapples, yum…

I just realized I dont actually know what a canal is, I just kind of picture a long river with boats, nora.

>>29462982
You're pretty much right, except the "river" is entirely manmade.

If only /nasa/ stayed longer. We had plans to build vehicles out of /nasa/ chuubanite using a gravity orbital engine. However its for the best /nasa/ leaves with their technology. Anyway horseless vehicles will come in the future. Its a matter of time.

Anyway do you have a land mass thin enough to dig out with 18th century tech?

>>29462744
i am not saying there was none but a canal of that size also needs to be profitable to be made and i dunno if there was so mcuh trade happening to really justify a canal of that size and additional work

you want the cnaal to be done in 60years that will need locks ect when the river you base it one has taken more than 100years and was way simpler in its construction.

i am not saying there should be no canal but it need to be in reason

ok i thought it over and yeah, no ships of line for reason pp senpai has said in past and other points. will have BIG FRIGATEs instead.

>>29463074
I dont enjoy the concept of presuming trade can only happen once a thread gets a rep. I think 2434 has traded with many nations in the Indies for a long time to be honest you get what i am saying? Phase war will likely see more money invested into improving it no doubt

>>29463265
Trade can only happen with nations that have reps due to meta reasons, otherwise they do not have enough lore and/or direction to do so

>>29463265
Yeah good point. Not every nation is Inf. Many of these nations have had contact for centuries that we just dont talk about.

>>29463434
I am not saying “yeah they are importing this and that from there” as much as saying this is supposed to be a living world with real people and real events. Trade, even if we have no idea what is being traded is happening and doesnt change the meta if you get what i am saying

>>29462930
No problem! Southern China is a good region to look towards, if you want real life examples for our agriculture.
>a mix of Western and Japanese
Yes, a haphazard mix of the two has more or less been my basis for the entirety of the Holy Kingdom's culture, hence all the talk of a unified Church and such, the religious/governmental structure being much closer to Vatican City than anything remotely Japanese. It both seemed accurate to Vox and also like a good way to help make the Kindred distinctive from Yaminions, who will be much more classically Japanese.

>>29463582
Yes, but this requires for there to be history between the nations, history that has to be directed by the thread itself.

>>29463265
i agree with you that it can be assumed that even with repless nations average trade can happen.

but now we need an actual timeframe of when this canal was built because the canal you want to base it on would have taken over 100years for 100km while yours would be nearly 3 times the lenght.

because /2434/ would not have had ocean ready vessels en masse for like thousands of years.

and this would have also been a big investment to create

>>29463823
I think our disagreement has more to do with the concept of how nations work. I dont think that it is fair to say 2434 had no trade in the east until recently because that takes the reality of the world from it. But I also dont think we can specify what nations and what goods either. In short, the world is alive but we do not understand much of it because of the lack of lore if that makes sense

>>29463892
Let just presume it started in 700 and was finished in 850. I dont see a problem with that personally. Also explain what you mean about ocean going vessels because 2434s lore says they have a long history at sea

>>29464107
Im also giving this a lot more time than needed because the ancient suez canal, some 100 km didnt take this long and had similar terrain.

Nothing wrong with this canal being built in the past over a couple generations. Let 2434 handle it though since its her canal

>>29464107
having a history at sea is not the same as being able to just perfom transatlantic crossings out of nowhere

the proposal you give for example would mean the project was started over 500years prior so it would be our reallife 1250, people did not send regular trading vessels over the ocean at that time

>>29464382
Yeah, but they still could use it for just the niji continent like yeah easier. I just made up the time.

>>29464453
Also, say it is started in 900 and finished in 1000. That makes sense.

>>29464453
please don't misudnerstand me, i am for the canal, i just want it to make sense

what you are saying is that /2434/ would start a project of 150years to cut down the time a bit to better trade with like 2 nations since /warkop/ is basicly a cold tundra and /rose/ is considered badlands with the actual people living in hiding underground

>>29464699
Not really, this could be started in 900 and finished around 1025 or 1050. We arent have an argument, we are just discussing how this works out. Transatlantic trade would be a reality by the start time and likely would be the reason why they started

>>29464780
this does sound way more logical

>>29464868
Yeah, i just threw out a random number with 700. 900 makes more sense and thats what I recommend for alice personally.

>>29464922
i will admit i still think it should take a bit longer, even more so if /2434/ would spend resources otherwise to build up themselves as crosscontinental trade power but if it finishes in 1050 or 1180 would have minor impact

>>29464780
Later ages make more sense because you'll have better tools and understanding of physics. Since the late age is 17th to 18th century tech you should have the first proper steel tools. Steel tools are lighter and stronger than iron tools. So they should make digging easier. You won't have factory automation yet.

but yeha if the construction started around 900~ when they first made contact with nations on the indie continent it makes sense for an opportunistic nation to try and capitalize on that

if it finishes around 1100~ it also is not that old that /2434/ would yet have sprung them into "imbalanced" terretory while at least making all the previosu ivnestments in it worth it and being made back

and with the new trade deal in 1203 it also means that the whole inner sea of the nijicontinent profits from it and not just /2434/ wich should also reduce any "balance" problems

>>29465109
All depends on how she envisions it, honestly
.>>29465178
Agreed but lets not forget that the ancients had a suez canal too. >>29465566
Balance isnt an issue because this is a win win for a lot of nations. 2434 can put a toll on it (They should) but this is more of a nation project.

>>29461020
I'm pretty sure I don't, at least I don't remember it. But I'll just shut my trapfor now, please continue. Let's see what they come up with.

>>29465566
>1203
Retrosenpai… are you from the future????

>>29465880
the only reason why i brought up the balance thing is to make the argument of people crying this would be "overpowered" worthless

it makes sense this way, thats the important bit.

heck it even indirectly creates lore that makes the placement of ahoy and them having potential pirates there so much more logical too

>>29465885
Cunt, what was our deal aside from you getting protection and us shipping copium for a share of profits??!!!

>>29465969
ehh sorry, that was a honest typo i meant 1103

>>29466028
>ahoy
Unironically, was thinking that was one of the main reasons to build this. Agreed, adds a lot of potential lore to the world. Balancing is only an issue if it makes no sense for something to happen imo.

Well, it seems like we did a canal (very useful things) without causing this thread to meltdown. Must say it feels good to see something justified correctly and understood as well.

Alice, i noticed you said something about horse carriages on rails. Nice touch. This is not only accurate but makes sense (as long as they are used in cities and mines honestly.)

>>29466432
Did my reps on transportation history, was shocked to see how they had horse railways called waggonways. That would be useful with the canal too!!!!

>>29466038
Honestly, since we are in a pretty turbulent time in regards to our lore, as well as still not sure where we will be placed, I would put our deal on hold, Alice. We can hammer it down real quick once the vote about the map goes through. Let's just wait for next week....

>>29466705
Agreed!!! But we love you and will protect you!!!!

>>29457778
pretty sure it's just his tsundere way of saying he doesn't give a shit
>>29457532
nasfaqronie i have a gift for you!!
i overhauled some of the things regarding the alphabet and kat nol literacy, as well as inventing a calligraphic system of writing, i was wondering if you thought it could fit into the flag in some way, similar to saudi arabia's flag

>>29466798
i forgot the fucking link!!!!
https://files.catbox.moe/rqjx79.pdf

>>29466640
alice if i forget tomorrow to make a rentry about our deal remidn me pls, gotta finish up soem stuff on my end first and want to do it afterwards so if i don't post it with my other rentry then just bonk me

>>29466949
OK. I am patient and can wait!!!

I’ve been working on the Tunnelhogs a lot today and I’ve made so much progress. I feel so fucking energized today, I’m so happy. God I can’t wait to get into the nitty gritty of this society and write about all of its flaws.

Word cloud for last thread.

>>29460661
>>29460603
Hello! I'm back. What did you need?

>>29467133
Good!!!!!

>>29467316
>/morig/ has declared its hostility towards our friends /mans/. We understand you are no friends of /morig/ as well.

>>29467439
We're mostly neutral with them. We even had a plan to trade alcohol in exchange for something from them. Why do you ask?

>>29467320
Yeah! I also forgot to mention, but I finally have a name for /rose/ as well. I realize that I haven’t really taken advantage of the fact that Rosemi is, well, Satan for NijiEN. So, to play off of that, I’m thinking of simply naming /rose/ “L’enfer”. I believe that’s the right word in French, if not I’m sure Alice or someone else will correct me.

>>29467543
>We merely ask to clarify your stance. Thank you, we understand. But the real thing I want to discuss is us setting up shop in demeter with your permission of course. We could expand its facilities if you so desired.

>>29467543
Alice is getting ready to start a war in earnest.

>>29467133
Rosebud, you appear with perfect timing...

>>29467642
Just Enfer.

>>29467845
Although it is cringe!!!!! But you do you…

>>29467753
Perfect timing? What do you need from me?
>>29467845
Gotcha, appreciate it.

>>29467904
Hey man, I’m cringe but I’m free. Also I should be allowed to get a little chuuni, I feel like I’ve earned it.

>>29467911
Chapter 12 for the Cultural Exchange story, out after a long hiatus!
https://rentry.org/cultural-exchange#chapter-12
Authors note: Some characters draw incorrect conclusions based on imperfect information, this is intended.
>>29454310
Cultural Exchanges should be moved to Individual from Collaborative, I'm the only writer.

>>29467974
Rosemi is the furthest thing from Satan in EN when Pomu, sonny and Enna exist

>>29468026
But Rosemi is literally Satan, it's her lore.

>>29468060
According to who? I have never seen rosemi show any eldrich being things ever

>>29467985
OH HELL YEAH! I’ll be sure to give that a read in a bit.
>>29468026
Nice try, but Rosemi is LITERALLY Satan. That’s pure lore, not even bullshitting. Can’t stop this train, I’m riding this one all the way!

>>29468124
Do your Black Out reps.

>>29467985
what do you mean characters drawing incorrect conclusions? how dare you, all characters should always only be factual correct!!! i would never let my characters coem to the wrong conclusion!!!

anyway back to writing about onobots

>>29468161
Yeah yeah the meme. Sure. Whatever, still extreme cringe

>>29468233
If this is your cringe threshold, I'm not sure how you are able to use this board at all kek.

>>29468197
Oh and dragonbro, you are officially in my lore with your mercenaries!!!!! The «Wild Dragons»

>>29468294
No, i just think that concept is cringe personally. But whatever.

>>29467693
I will discuss it with my financial advisor, but I'm already considering it, Bateman. I'll get back to you on it.

>>29468374
>concept
AHHH NIGGERMAN I'M GONNA CONCEPT

>>29468400
>Good good.

>>29468233
>>29468374
Sucks to suck nerd, that’s just how the lore goes! Call it cringe all you want, but I’m sticking to it. Can’t stop me from having fun for once.

>>29468603
but i am not allowed to have fun… how can i be part of the fun council but not be a fun master. This is unfair, its not right!

Today was a really long day!!! How are you all doing????
>>29467985
Very nice!!! Good work rosebro!!!!

>>29468741
DID YOU SEE MY «Wild Dragons» as part of my company LORE???

>>29468735
wait when were you admitted onto the fun council i do not remember a vote for that?

ohh also alice, since you seem to have been afk for a bit of the canal talk, what do you overall think of what we threw around?

>>29468603
Does that mean Rosebutas too will be aligned with the forces of Hell alongside Kindred, Mousefrens, Deadbeats, Phantomos and Kenzokus when the day of Judgment comes?
>>29468741
I'm a Deadbeat kek, but thank you dragoon!

>>29468890
I am the fun council

>>29468890
To answer question, i see and i like idea. Work for tomorrow!!

>>29468855
No I didn't!!!! Can you send it again???? It has been some hours since I opened this general!!!

>>29468735
I mean I’m not 100% sure what’s going on with your stuff, but I hope you get to have fun too.
>>29468741
Silly Dragoon, that’s a Deadbeat writing that story not me.
>>29468919
Absolutely! We’ll be happy to bring about an age of reckoning and whatnot.

>>29468855
>“Lore”
You mean the nonesense stub you made. I thought you would do better like you said.

>>29468982
?? not of this thread, the fun council was established with OGrisuner, me and the /meat/cabal to counterbalance the warautism council

not that i got a problem if you want to send a formal join request

>>29469091
https://rentry.org/hodz2

>>29469151
I am making my own with ppsenpai and cunt. We will have blackjack and hookers!!!!!

>>29469135
how are your projects coming along anon? you done good world building today?

would be interested to hear all about the projects some of the other anons work on for some inspiration so please tell me in detail about your stuff

>>29468919
>>29469099
Oh sorry!!!! I got it confused!!!

>29469135
You don't even deserve a (You) for such a weak bait!!!!!

>Deleted
Was about to roast him
Dragoonbro, you caught up with my history of Pomerania?

>>29469472
Not quite!!! To be honest I don't even remember what I ate today!! I think I'm gonna re-read it but I'm not going to build any lore right now because I'm really tired!!!

>>29466798
>>29466863
Its very late for me so forgive me for not being able to give it the full attention it deserves.
That being said, it looks incredibly cool to me. I'll show this to the rep immediately.

If I'm understanding this correctly -
>/morig/
enemies with /meat/
enemies with /luxnoc/
enemies with /2434/
>/2434/
dislike /meat/
friends with /luxnoc/
enemies with /morig/

Is that right?

>>29467985
Okay I’ve given it a good read and FUCK THIS IS SO GOOD DEADBEAT I COULD KISS YOU. I’m so glad to see more of this, I love it so much. God I love so much about it. One thing is I’m glad Mea didn’t call her a pig in Clock, because the Rosebutan equivalent for pig, or piggy, is actually a grave insult. Oh and as always, I’m more than happy to answer any questions you have in the future.

OGsuner, you here? I'd like to ask for an up to date map of Infinity!

And also, paging a /meat/ rep for trade and diplomacy. I have requests

>>29470030
Yes, albeit morig and 2434 are more likely to be rivals than true enemies with hatred. Meat and 2434 dont have much of a relationship beyond 2434 disallowing their cult in their lands

>>29470030
Actually, /morig/ is very friendly with /luxnoc/, especially kindred. Also, we're still cordial with /2434/, that'll only change once Magbros come into play.

>>29470374
And Morig if they do fight 2434 it will be more of a “gentlemans war” because they both respect each other.

>>29468919
FUCK YEAH >>29468919

>>29467985
Love to see oldfags teach this young hotshots who write a lot how to really write good lore. Finally, some good fucking lore today

>>29470030
Deadbeats are supposed to be our enemies? I like them!

>>29470730
I am not sure that counts for everything in Luxnoc desu…

>>29470809
/luxnoc/ is full of obnoxious tribalists. Who gives a fuck what they think? I like Niji and I like Holo.

>>29470730
>>29470443
>>29470374
>>29470278
Thank you for clearing that up! If this is the case, Infinity will stay neutral in related conflicts.

>>29454267
Who is being sexually harrassed? Kindred by Retro? Roseanon by OGsuner?

>>29470730
No, we like you too. See >>29470730
Hell unity!

>>29470090
Thank you! Honestly, I'd be happy to write this just for you Rosebud! What is something you liked in there? Also, yeah, Mea is blunt, but she has a modicum of diplomacy kek. Good to know though, maybe this can be the source of a nice misunderstanding later on though...
>>29470443
That's right, especially since /2434/ would be jumping in to help an ally, /morig/ can respect following such commitments.
>>29470644
FUCK YEAH also nice art, saved.

>>29470730
>>29470932
Well that's embarrassing. Meant to say see >>29470374

>>29470875
Oh i know and agree. Its just more complex than what was said

>>29470930
Me by Alice.

>>29470930
PP, Rosebud, and I are the unholy trifecta of sekuhara!

>>29470932
Hell unity! I love that pink reaper!

Glad inf cleared it up, didnt want an unfair war for morig and didnt want to fight on multiple fronts!!

>>29471052
You liked it though, the thought got you didnt it??

>>29470233
Yo /inf/, where do you want to put /cope/ in.

>>29471263
No comment kusogaki

>>29471471
My veins

>>29471471
The idea getting bounced around was that it'd go in /nasa/ place once it stopped being around.

>>29471590
/who/ opposes that

>>29471471
>>29471590
I like that honestly. I think /mag/ wanted it too but it makes more sense to me that the council nation goes in firmer council territory

>>29459657
I'm the kindred with questions about the military. Nice to see you back. I was just wondering if we could have a more fantastical army with a focus on anachronistic weapons like katanas and such, since I think it would fit Vox's aesthetic better.

>>29471641
>firmer
*former

>>29471602
Why? You wouldn't even share a border.

When we getting a chuuba that looks like this so?

>>29471590
>>29471641
/who/ formally opposes the placement of /cope/ in former /nasa/

>>29471800

>>29471827
Why, brother

>>29471853
If only Polka was a Landskneckt

>>29471871
Mainly hostility from my thread towards /cope/, so having them close by would be a real bother, but also due to it being started off by a /hIRyS/ shitposter and it mainly being used by IRyStocrats and Kronies

>>29472012
>and Kronies
Brother... Why must you hate us...

>>29472055
I didn't even mean that as an insult.

>>29470981
Goodness, where to start? A couple little notes I noticed that I really liked, I really loved how one of the Rosebutas were notably old. It isn’t a big thing, but noting the wilting and slouching part was a really nice touch to me. The part about her “making no seed” was really good too, I love how they say it so casually. The fact that they did it at all was a great touch, because realistically they would indeed have no way of knowing. It’s just fucking fantastic, honestly.

>>29472188
Oldfags make the best lore, you and others are proof of that

>>29472012
You know, that all sounds bullshit to me. I bet the real reason is that you want it unclaimed so you can eventually swoop in and get to that sweet sweet treasure trove of space age tech that is Lamington that we are leaving behind.

>>29472351
Have to agree with my slovenian brother here. SOUNDS SUS TO ME!!!!!

Sorry /nasa/ we nutted all over your women and fled

>>29472188
Nice, I'm glad those touches worked! I like figuring out ways to work those lore tidbits without being too obvious about it. The whole social aspects of Rosebuta reproduction was really interesting to me. Thank you again.
>>29472343
picrel

>>29472351
Honestly, I couldn't give a shit, we'd probably provoke 50 timeloops about it if I were to suddenly declare "Oh wow they left a convinient radio here" like the squirrels were trying to do, and from what the other sanallite was saying they're going to leave a nuclear hell hole there

>>29472494
OGsuner, is that you? I have some questions!

>>29468741
Hey Cutie, how you doing? I want some input on some lore from you if you have time. Check the last thread and search for "golem".

I would like to wait for /uuu/'s input on turning /nasa/ into /cope/.

>>29472530
Yeah, go ahead. Whats up.

>>29472012
Oh, would /who/ like to become our friend over our shared distaste for /hirys/ shitposters?
attempt to befriend /who/ #17

>>29472515
I am not lying, the evidence is there. Experience is makes the best lore.

>>29472637
I think Aloucreeps might have something to say about that considering their experience with them. I write for yeah and was a founder of Ennas old general before it got merged

>>29472637
You deadbeats are alright. Especially when we agree.

>>29472669
Alright, here's your (you), oldfag, go jerk yourself off with it in your corner.

>>29472610
1. The /inf/ cities in Risu are, as the name implies, controlled by Infinity right? With kronie governors and guards and laws?
2. Would Risuners be interested in joining a foreign legion led by Infinity command? It would be cool if Infinity had a fighting force on the mainland comprised of locals
3. We have hazelnuts. Do you want to trade?

>>29472898
Im ri2ner kek. But I will check with boss later.

>>29472767
Huh, I didn't expect interactions between those two fanbases. QRD on aloucreep-hirys relations?

>>29472898
I can answer for ogpaperclip from my dealing, number one is no. He made it clear it would be risuner law

>>29472055
>Fanbase starting with k being the punching bag and the butt of shitposts
You get used to it and learn to roll with em, trust me...

>>29473015
Basically, Falseflaggers in catalog shit on Irys using enna, and irystocrats think its actual aloucreeps, when all aloucreeps do is post degenerate shit in EN general and talk about how much they love Enna. I even directed Irystocrats to visit yeah or en general to see their true nature but they refuse to believe me.

>>29473105
>Kenzoku so powerful her makes the doorknob change side.

>>29472946
Thank you!
>>29473049
Oh! Hmm... How does that work in Demeter, then...
>>29473105
My brother... You understand...

>>29473185
>standard procedure for irystocrats.
Yep. Not surprising

>>29473399
there's a common shitposting angle that all irystocrats are SEA for many reasons.

Is there a ris4r or even a Ri5ner

>>29473475
Can't wait for the reboot: The Risuner

>>29473185
sigh, no story i haven't heard. the only thing i hate more than seeing obvious falseflagging is knowing retards are always going to fall for it

>>29473475
Gonna just start calling falseflaggers that turn out not to be ri2ner those names considering he constantly denies ever falseflagging as OGsuner

>>29473544
Well, i am sure you know as a deadbeat that certain fanbases LOVE to debate “le best singer” and will defend their oshi to the death over it. Me? Pomu sang Bustin in PL and its still the most SOVLFVL cover ever. Kek .

>>29473663
that's paragraphsfag

>>29473663
ah shit sorry i'm retarded, just conlanganon here

>>29473785
Well he gets it regardless.

>>29473368
Well grudges about overused shitposts aside,I'm really hopeful that once my thread rep gets everything sorted out /towa/ and /inf/ can start trading, would be nice to work with folks who aren't afraid of husky voice dorks Don't take that as free reign to solicit the population though,I might not know much about you lot but your horny reputation sure as hell precedes you

>>29472055
I'm sorry but that's just how /who/ sees /inf/. And to some degree how i see it too. Even if /inf/ has improved a bit on its namefagging and schizo problem the lingering impression on it is still negative.
>>29472012
I'm personally fine with a potential /cope/neighbor, my problem with this proposal is how do we justify the alleged history of an IRystoract founding a city or settlement all the way in former /nasa/ territory. Having a neighbour that we have an open distaste with would create some world building potential imo but I do see how that can be a problem especially when we still yet to have lore that would dictate how we respond to such an event.

>>29473885
Np, dont matter.

Well, for what it's worth I feel the exact same kek.

We rule the waves! GGG pride!

>>29473909
I sure hope so too! Deep voices women love!
>spoiler
Of course not! Perish the thought!! Haha...

>>29474028
Nijisanji rules the waves, SHRIMP

>>29474028
AND WE RULE THE SKY! Hopefully... Eventually...

>>29474028
Oh hey, touristbud is that you?

>>29474028
Oh hello again, pajeet. Haven't seen you in quite some time. How's life?

>>29474177
Sorry, its me Ri2ner again shitposting. I wish it was him.

>>29473932
>Having a neighbour that we have an open distaste with would create some world building potential
That's true, but I'd honestly prefer us not having to deal with it in the first place, that and if the Sanallites really do go nuclear on their zone to wipe out the schizo attack it'll be less reason for there to be new societies in the area for hundreds of years. It is simply not the right place for /cope/ to be in. Having it be somewhere in the east nearer to /HiRyS/ or /infinity/ would be more fitting for them

>>29474228
You need correction from Cunt.

>>29471643
Well currently, my idea is actually pretty fantastical, but not in a "everyone is running around using a chuubanite katana" way. The crucial element is that the church and the military are one in the same. The church runs basically everything in the Holy Kingdom in an extreme form of theocratic despotism, and though the bulk of the citizens do not want to change it anyways due to their religious fanatacism, the truth is they could not if they wanted to. The church holds all the power -- the higher you rise in its ranks, the better the education you receive, the more chuubanite you take into your body through holy rituals, the more access you have to the secrets of the Holy Kingdom's magic, and so on. Your position in the church becomes directly correlated to your knowledge and strength. The bulk of the army is composed of completely regular citizens. These soldiers fight as would be expected of normal humans, and the army appears "normal," for lack of a better description. Their weapons and tactics aren't anything out of the ordinary. But you eventually get to a point where that isn't true.

I don't know if you were here when I went over the idea of Kindred higher up on the religious ladder having progressively stronger shapeshifting powers. Since the church is also the military, the higher up in the army's chain of command you go, the less human -- in both appearance and physical ability -- the fighters become. It's a very anime sort of dichotomy where guns are great right up until a guy with a sword is better, basically. The pope equivalent would be some kind of completely inhuman monstrosity like ?% in picrel. A recurring theme I've been trying to emphasize in the Holy Kingdom is the idea of a pleasing, gilded surface hiding the monstrous, the rotten and grotesque beneath. Thoughts? I'd like the opinions of the other kindred here too, if any of you are around at the moment.

>>29474306
Did you know you have the Rosebud equivalent of that in the badlands now?

>>29474355
I have no idea what this statement is supposed to mean.

>>29472540
Ok!!!! Just give me a sec!!!

>>29474305
Sorry pp, but I don't deal in correction anymore. I am a changed man. You gonna have to find someone else.

PP senpai likes PP kek

>>29474240
Yeah agree on that. Although I'm not very familiar with the history of /cope/ with its userbase having it closer to the Eastern Holo continent would make more sense. Doubt there are that many anons from /who/ using it. And we don't always have to make countries the size of Western US states. Smaller city states could also do.

>>29474397 https://rentry.org/d3gvk
Our NijiEN rep, Rosemaiden wrote this.

I think /cope/ could be like a loose alliance of nations, similar to /vtwbg/ but looser and more... dysfunctional. Ostensibly it could be an alliance and a means to communicate issues that better effect Council nations, but in reality it's being used (potentially by all parties involved) as a way to spy on each other and keep each other in check.

>>29474472
If not the old /nasa/ territory, a chunk being cut out of /hirys/ would work I think.

>>29474472
So you ok with carving up /who/ to make room for the eventual EN3 I assume?

>>29474532
That won't work because for one, it's an actual thread, and two, there's cold relations between various of it's would-be member states

>>29474571
What if it's like the UN / EU in that it's not a nation but s council seated within a nation - in this case, a council seated in /cope/. Would explain their influence over it and why /who/ dislikes it.

>>29472540
>>29474409 (me)))!!!!
Sorry but I don't really understand what kind of input you want me from me!!! I don't dabble with magic that much!!!

>>29474692
Based fuck magic. My magic is my boomstick.

>>29474605
Nothing quite like false equivalency, right?

>>29474571
There's the little island that's off the coast of /wah/, both /V7/ and a /cope/ city-state could be placed there

>>29474605
Not before you, cunt

>>29474617
>it's an actual thread
You got me there...
>there's cold relations between various of it's would-be member states
Arab League of Vitubia

>>29474446
And? So do you dumdum

>>29474692
Eh, I just want as much feedback as possible from as many different sources as possible, specially since it would be about an integral part of both /mans/ in general, and potential future wars.

>>29473909
I've been busy the last few days due to family in town and my menheraness becoming active, so it'll be a bit, gomen.

>>29474822
Let's just squish /v7/, /mhm/, /cope/ and /MANS/ on there.

>>29474892
LazuLight will likely support mans if you are close assuming haha doesnt stab us in the back while we send an army, which seems likely (well we will see.)

>>29474964
>>29474964
Seems like a fun idea, but didn't /MANS/ want to be near /risu/?

>>29474822
Check the next vote post linked in the vote anchor. /V7/ would preferably be placed next to /ehe~/ and /mhm/.

>>29474823
Mate if I cut up /mans/ any more I will be left with nothing but a city block to work with.

>>29474515
Ah, you were referring to the religious extremism. I wouldn't say they're very similar at all really beyond both being both militant and religious. I am looking forward to seeing what she does with that though. A quick readthrough makes it sound almost like she's building a schizo nation.

Maybe we should put the /cope/ thing to vote here, anchor and all.

>>29475046
Well, they are as close to a schizo nation as you can make. These fuckers literally talk about catching girls from young villages as prizes if you didnt read her virgin covered roses piece.