/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>29426299
Kiars will never graduate

Kiara is the least likely to graduate

>>29426299
you should hurry up and graduate from life

>>29426299
Mori signed with UMG with Cover as Mori Calliope, she isn't graduating anytime soon because not only does she not want to, contract wise she can't.

>>29426299
Gura > Mori > Ame. Once Gura leaves, they'll follow suit
Kiara and Ana might be moved to gen 0
>but what about gen 2
I don't give a yak shit about them.

>>29426299
Gura might leave do to “artistic differences” (AKA Holostars EN being a thing).
The others either have absolutely no insensitives to leave or have invested too much into Hololive.

>>29426431
Mori's priority is to succeed as a DDK not as Mori, surely she hopes to earn a lot of money with this being Vtuber to be able to invest in her career IRL, surely when her contract with UMG ends and she has done everything she has left to do, she will graduate

>Kiara
had achieved her idol dream, now she can go back to be her old self again anytime
>Ame
has been putting up a fight with Cover and is interested in Vshojo
>Mori
have a chance of getting canceled by twitter
>Gura
will fully become the EN Ayame
>Ina
becoming a hag and wants to have her life set

>>29426479
Ina hates be a vtuber, her graduation will be soon

>>29426299
>Your First Anon
>Then Myth after 5 years

>>29427111
>has been putting up a fight with Cover and is interested in Vshojo

>The only thing that a VKeks can say
>be creative anon, you have Talent Freedom right?

>>29426299
Mori and then Ame. The rest are pure idols who will stay.

>>29427111
>interested in Vshojo
Has a friend In Vshojo. That’s like saying that Kiara wants to switch to Nijisanji because of Pomu.

>>29426299
I'm not a mind reader, but...

Mori is the most likely to leave. While she enjoys the role, it's not creatively fulfilling for her. She personally wants the status and fame and stardom that comes with being an internet rappist. At the moment, this is being associated with Mori's character, not Mori herself. She sees her career with Hololive as a stepping stone for fame. Getting the UMG contract is her way of getting in to the industry, making contacts, getting noticed, experience, etc. I can't imagine this contract lasts longer than a year. Once the contract ends, it's difficult to see Mori sticking around, as by that point she should be established enough to strike out properly on her own.

Ina is the next most likely to leave, purely because she doesn't have a reason to stay other than to collect a paycheck and have fun with friends. She doesn't have much ambition and doesn't have any particular goals she wants to achieve. As it stands, she's just drifting. If a better job opportunity knocks, or if she'll start needing to work harder (e.g. dancing and such), it's difficult to see her putting up with it. The business with Sana needs consideration as well.

Ame is the creative glue that holds EN1 together. It's difficult to see her leaving because she's an integral part of EN. If you were management, you'd incentivise her to stick around, probably with financial incentives and a bit more creative freedom. It would still probably work out cheaper than losing her, or fronting the costs and gruntwork of tech stuff themselves.

Kiara loves Hololive. She won't leave unless an opportunity knocks that provides a 10x benefit compared to what she has now. Either that or a massive yab, maybe she'll start ranting about George Floyd Mayweather on stream.

Gura? All she has to do is ride it out. She's raking in subs and cash just by existing and providing a steady trickle of content. She has no particular ambitions or goals. Why would she leave? For content freedom? Literally everything is done for her in Hololive - scheduling, ideas, marketing. Going solo and having to do all that shit yourself is a pain in the ass. She better be investing her money in a high interest bank account and dollar-cost averaging into index funds. Within the next few years, she can retire and never have to work again. Hell, her kids will probably never need to work a day in their lives either. She can just spend money to make money and invest in what makes her happy.

I could see Ame transferring into behind the scenes of HoloEN once another generation or two has been established.

>>29430303
Considering after what Gooba has gone through while becoming HER. That is exactly what she intends to do. She is going to try and make the best of this both financially and everything else with Ame and herself being the last to retire. After all, they both been doing the vtubing scene the longest and both know what they are getting into compared to the other three.

But yeah Mori is totally the first to leave.

>>29426330

Agreed with this. She tried so hard so many times to have a Japanese related job and just kept failing. This actually worked out for her, so she isn't going anywhere.

Kiara will leave when Yagoo shuts down the company. Unless she has a full blown mental breakdown she's going nowhere.

>>29427111
>Ame
>has been putting up a fight with Cover and is interested in Vshojo
Says she is a bootlicker for cover but people still insist this. Sad

>>29432169
You can't expect the thread readers to beleive this

>>29431935
wasn't she a literal shrine maiden for over a year?

>>29426299
Kiara will never graduate, either she dies and is therefore unavailable, or she's terminated without notice because the company folds overnight.

My guess is:
1st Ame gets bored
2nd Mori does a yab
3rd Ina jumps ship
4th Gura burns out

>>29426901
She's always said her goal is the earn enough in holo to be able to focus on music full time

The REAL order. Undisputed and coming from a unityfag:

>Ina
To put bluntly, she simply doesn't need to be in Hololive to be successful. Like Gura, she enjoys what she does and will stick around for a while because she likes the friends she's made through doing this. But she's one of the few that literally doesn't need this job to support her lifestyle and so with that alone she can very well leave at any time she wants and be fine.

>Gura
Probably enjoys her job very much. But the pressure of management constantly nagging and restricting her must piss her off and one day the penny will drop that she can just go it alone. Also her frequent disappearing acts can't be ignored. Will still probably stick around because of the friends she's made in Hololive.

>Ame
A lot of recency bias seems to come into place when people speculate on whos graduating. The fact is, she's comfortable where she is and knows that she's in the opportunity of a lifetime. She's earning a stable income she won't make anywhere else and due to being a poorfag knows how important that is. Will at least stay for several years and (despite saying otherwise) can easily transition into a staff role further on down the line.

>Mori
What initially started out as most likely to graduate now got flipped on its head due to the UMG contract. Now she can expand her exposure even further with that, and create strong ties ties in the industry like she's always wanted. Will at least ride out the UMG contract and then take it from there.

>Kiara
Her goals in Japan fell through. But she's now living her dream and is comfortable doing what she does for the first time in her life. Won't be graduating unless her health deteriorates. Simple as that.

>>29432320
That's actually very interesting how do you become one?
And what do they do?

>>29426299
Kiara will be the last holomeme

>>29433215
If Ina sees Sana raising her level she might realize a person can't properly live two lives.

>>29430303
Gura achieved all her goals in hololive. She made close friends, became no1 in the world and did her own rhythm game songs.
I honestly dont know how she would outdo herself even if she could

>>29432374
ina will prolly quit and go artist route same as sana

>>29426299
>Gura not first
False, she's going to leave when she wants to become her PL version 2.0

>>29435799
Maybe going truly mainstream?

>>29426330
Came here to say this
She's going down with Hololive. To the bitter end.

>>29436344
I don't know, Gura seems to enjoy the camaraderie. Graduating first means going indie all by herself but now with thousands of clout chasing faggots trying to befriend her

>>29426299
If Ame keeps being treated like shit and excluded she might as well graduate early.

>>29426299
Ina >Gura >Mori> Ame=Kiara
Ina has one foot out the door and Gura is going to become the EN Aqua. Mori seems fine with everything now that she is doing more music stuff. Ame and Kaira won't leave unless they have to because neither have any other options outside of Hololive.

>>29436924
Shes already been the biggest gateway to the mainstream as gura

>>29428334
>Talent freedom
>Taking a shit in mocap while streaming
Lol
Lmao even

>>29427111
>becoming a hag
>becoming

>>29438436
Sure but the next step is Miku levels of mainstream.
Interviews on TV and add appearances as well as more videogame colabs.

>>29438684
I dont think theres a single person who knows who miku hatsune is and doesnt know who gawr gura is

>>29438866
Anon, if you actually think this, you are retarded

>>29438906
Its the same fucking fanbase at this point

>>29432320

Yeah 1 year at a job and not having it any longer is not good. You know, because people need money for food, clothes, and the like for more than *1* year out of their life.

>>29426299
Mori>Ina>Ame>Gura>Kiara
Kiara is that person whining about everything in the company but definitely gonna stick until the end. Gura and Ame are set for life, they don't have much ambition and prefer to stay within their own bubble. Ina can change if she really want to focus on her other career. Mori is definitely the first one to leave that's for sure.

>>29438866
Scott, former president of Domino's Pizza Japan, knows Miku but has almost certainly never heard of Gura

>>29430303
Mori has a lot more work to do before she can do what she's doing now as her roommate.

She's working in a genre that's not popular in Japan with an aesthetic that isn't popular in the West. She needs to stick with UMG as Calliope long enough to either get some semi-mainstream recognition in the West or make enough money that she can go back to being an underground rapper without caring about income for the rest of her life.

>>29438866
Not yet bro, at least at her biggest Miku was massive.
Also I forgot an official Gura game would be a good goal too, likely a ritm game.

>>29439148
No normie outside japan knows who miku is. And why would gura bother attacking the japanese market specifically?

>>29439361
Miku made an appearance and sang at an American late night show.
That's more mainstream western attention than Gura has gotten, yet...

>>29439361
>>29439549
Miku has also had multiple concerts in the west with her name in lights and jet picture on screens like any other band

>>29426718
I can assure you that Gura gives no shit if the boys exist or not.

>>29430042
Silvervale does not consider ame or her pl to be friends. Just someone that did something for her once.

>>29439549
A decade ago and completely forgotten... she never hit the mainstream normies never gave a fuck
Gura is extremely well known in the markets that care

>>29426431
Either terminated or graduate as soon as UMG contract ends. Can't wait!

>>29432320
scratch "literal"
Miko-San in Akihabara is not a real shrine
it is more like a shrine themed cosplay cafe

>>29440068
Shh, people don’t like being told the truth

>>29426901
>surely when her contract with UMG ends
Yeah in five years.

>>29435338
>How do you become one?
By getting hired by head priest of the shrine. Obviously you are also expected to know certain things too. It's basically a part-time job for high-school girls and uni students
>And what do they do?
Various shit around the shrine. It's pretty much internship

>>29430303
>I can't imagine this contract lasts longer than a year
Why? The normal contract is five years. Why would this be any different?

Kiara sees her career in Hololive as a linear story with a clear end. She wants to give it all to achieve her goals and then graduate at some point. She's hinted she doesn't expect to be in Hololive in 5 years.
Instead Gura and Ina, I can see them doing this forever. If they get tired they'll just stream less, in some years they might be like Ayame, but I don't think they have any reason to leave.
Not sure about Ame and Calli... Calli has the UMG contract making things complicated. And Ame is flying the flag of Cover very proudly, she likes working with them, but I think precisely because of that she might easily leave if Cover ever disappoints her.

Mori
Ina
Ame
Gura
Kiara

Gen2 is dog shit but I see Gura falling apart under pressure and then Ina, Ame, Mori then Kiara.

>>29426299
Ame > Ina > Mori > Gura > Kiara

>>29426299
Mori will never graduate

Mori - Ina/Ame - Kiara- Gura

i feel like Mori wants more than just being a v-tuber and will try to use the fame she gained during her time in hololive to push her career as roommate
The moment when she feels like she wont advance any further or interest going down too fast so she might miss the best point of pursuing her dream she will quit

for Ina/Ame i can´t see them graduating any time soon, only put them there, because i feel like the chances for Gura and Kiara graduating are even slimmer

Kiara is basically finally living the life she always wanted. She is kind of fusing her roommate and Kiara and actually becoming her. Being Kiara is her life now.

Gura is THE flagship of english vtubing and Covers holy cow. They will do their best to make her happy and since Gura never showed interest to be anything other than a vtuber in her time before hololive, i can´t seem to find any reason for her to pursue any other kind of life.

>>29440090
That's why I imply Gura has the potential to surpass Miku and actually catch on.

>>29441125
I see, I didn't think it was that casual.
At least do they actually wear that typical shrine Maiden outfit?

>>29444428
>At least do they actually wear that typical shrine Maiden outfit?
Those who work outside and contact people - for sure. Others - no idea, you probably should ask someone who actually worked there, I think at least a couple of jap chuubas actually confessed to working as miko

mori, ina, gura, ame.

>>29426718
Gura doesn't really cares about the boys don't use that as an excuse

>>29430303
gura's outcome is the saddest when considering its long term implications. Gura always struck me as a simple girl who wanted to live a simple life as an entertainer. However, while she was not corrupted by fame, the possibility of her ever living a normal life was cutoff. She has 2 options. 1) be a XX-year-old millionaire that could retire early, which is way more miserable than it sounds (you know how lazy and dirty she lives), or 2) try to live a normal life but end up in a bad marriage. As much as I am attracted to Guras personality, I have to admit that she is far too immature to be a good wife and mother, and probably never will, due to her upbringing and celebrity status.
The result is a girl with money and nothing else. Guras life is a tragedy with a whimpering end

>>29447677
Well that's depressing when you lay it all out like that.

>>29426299
Ame will just promote to manager and silently disappear from streaming, she'll transition to EN A-chan so slowly, no one will notice.

Kiara will die with Cover. The rest is gone by 2024.

>>29440318
It was a real shrine anon, not a cosplay cafe.
Her job was to take donations, clean the shrine and sell fortune predictions. She talked about it on stream. And not on her roommate.
She’s a more legit miko than Sakura Miko

>>29448869

Sounds like a pretty good life to me. Enough money to do the shit I want. Marriage and family are over-rated. It requires being willing to compromise with another person on nearly every aspect of your life, and honestly, I'm far happier single than I ever was married.

>>29426299
Ina > ame > gura > Mori > kiara. Mori’s more bound by contract than ever and this is the most success kiara has seen in her entire life so there’s no way these two are anywhere close to thinking about graduating.

>>29449346
I suppose the grass is always greener on the other side. We want what we don't have, personally I want marriage and family.

>>29426299
Ame Mori Ina Gura Kiara

>>29447677
This is kind of a trap for all e-celebs, particularly the ones that are purely entertainers.
Whether you barely scrape by or hit it big, it only lasts a few years for most people before they either dry up or burn out and then there's nowhere left to go. If you failed you have no other applicable skills, and if you succeeded you're just bored out of your mind sitting on your money pile.

The best case scenario in the latter case is having some other hobby that you can keep doing as a "job" just to keep yourself occupied, which is probably where creators like Calli and Ina will end up, but Gura would have to start from scratch to do anything other than go back to streaming or meme videos that she no longer has any passion for.

For a little bit of optimism a lot of people do manage to find some new passion long after their original career ends, but there's no easy transition for an entertainer whose skill is just entertainment.

>>29426299
>>29426330
kiara will only graduate if an actual idol unit in Japan hires her.

>>29450850
>Gura would have to start from scratch to do anything other than go back to streaming or meme videos
thats what ive been thinking about. Thats the thing the most people dont consider about her future. She cant do this forever, and when her time is up, and she has to go back to her old life, whats going to be waiting for her? I cant imagine how scary it is to have such an unclear future like that, especially for someone as fragile as gura. Im no cuck, but if theres a good man out there for her, he'd better find her soon.

>>29447677
That’s pretty sad, i never even thought of any of that. To be honest, i don’t think that Gura’s roommate will ever be married or have kids.

>>29426299
Watson - Ina - Takanashi - Gawr - Ninomae - Calli
Yes I did type it this eay to bug you.

>>29426299
Why the hell would Gura leave? She gets paid top bill to work like once a week. She has the cushiest job for the least amount of work. She'd be an idiot to quit.

>>29426299
Mori first - is what I would say, but the contract complicates things. How long will she stay will Holo? When does her contract run out? Find out and you have your answer.

Ina next - I think the glamor has worn off for her. She likes the money and maybe even the free adulation, but not anything else.

Ame next, She's probably the most creative of the bunch when it comes to stream ideas, and while Holo gives opportunities, it also restricts some which can probably be frustrating. This is relative, so I don't see her leaving anytime soon.

Gura is making bank being a goofball, living the dream.

Kiara, similarly, actually loves doing this so she'll stick it out for as long as she can.

Ina, Ame, Gura, Mori, Kiara

Ina enjoys it, but she could probably let it go any time she wanted without too much frustration on her part.
Ame probably hits a wall where either Cover pisses her off or she feels unfilfilled and either strikes off on her own or transitions into staff.
Gura I see third, mostly just because of her depressive brain. She sees her friends leaving, and if she ever sees her numbers drop too much at once(which happens, ebbs and flows), she'd get the idea that people were over her and jump the gun on a graduation.
Mori fourth, mostly because I feel like she's actually just now getting to a point where she's letting herself enjoy this whole experience for what it is. Instead of being frustrated that this is popular and RM isn't, she's relaxing and letting herself get into it. She'll eventually go try to make it as RM, but only once this stops being fun.
Kiara will outlast hololive itself.

Kiara spent way too long trying to make it in Japan before Holo to just leave the first thing that's ever been successful for her.

She went to some pretty desperate measures before to try and stay in Japan. No way she leaves any time soon.

Ame - Hololive but just the gaming part. Can do it anywhere else and has no collab chemistry to hold her back from leaving
Mori - doesn't care for idol stuff, doesn't care for streaming; leaches onto hololive until she's confident enough in her solo shit to bail
Ina - Cares about nothing, not even her fans.
Gura - embraces idol behavior to an extent but doesn't care for streaming unless it's part of a collab. Makes enough money to live her life in peace either way.
Kiara - genuinely loves her job, every part of it including her fans. Can't ever see her leaving even if the rest of myth left.

Completely unbiased as I don't like anybody in myth.

>>29447677
Says the virgin

>>29426299
Ina - mori - ame - gura - kiara
I have a hard time seeing gura ever truly graduating, at worst she'll pull an Ayame and stream very sporadically

>>29440245
copechama...

>>29427111
>>Mori
>have a chance of getting canceled by twitter
roru
rumao
their last chance was near the debut