/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

mind your own business

Educate yourself

Her viewers went on a journey to educate themselves.

Identity politics is never going to be entertaining. Please only do this on you RM accounts.

>>29345338
She alienated her viewers by pandering to leftist freaks on twitter instead who don't even watch her.

>>29345338
Well, it's one way to get by.

Apparently she's way too retarded, beyond saving even.

She's a parasocial. So she got exactly what she said 'parasocial fucks' get.

>>29345465
Good lord... Not even vWhores act this retarded and they literally don't even have managers to tardwrangle them.

>finana swimming in her own toilet

Boys I think this is a job for the SaviorChads

>>29345338
her fanbase educated themselves and realized she's trash

>>29345465
Honestly that anon needs saving more than she does.

You people keep focusing on the trap thing when this place was the only one who gave a fuck about it, I fucking wish her problem was some dumb decision.she reverted a day after

>>29346789
Are you saying she reversed her decision solely because of this place? Doesn't that seem a bit far fetched?

>>29345465
Jfc i feel sorry for this anon

>>29345338
Why you want me to give you answer!
Educate yourself!

> Niji streamer puts on a stream that involves engaging, celebrating and having fun with their community

HoloEN: this is stupid, why don't they just play blockgame?

>>29346927
She got some bad feedback on that but it was mostly twitterfags fighting between themselves, but this place is the only one who act like this was some career ending move when finana has been making fuck ups for months

>>29345338
>>29345465
>>29345429
She's been hanging out in a private Discord, with friends/groomers/viewers who even posted her audition video for Nijisanji around. She's actually, unironically lost her mind.

I can't imagine what Niji management has been thinking.

>>29347112
Always one schizo in everythread

>>29347112
Nijitribalist really cant resist going absolutely off-topic and try to spread 'le hololive bad', huh?

>>29347255
Management?

>>29347408
We already know that management was on her ass for joining the discord but we don't know the extent of it

Shut the fuck up holobrony. Nene does the same shit and she's based for it? Fucking hypocrisy.

>>29347112
>engaging
Kek

>>29345362
>>29345411

>>29347545
>Nene does the same
?

>>29346927
She will read and care about the opinions from THE most influential thread in most influential board.

>>29347545
Proofs?

>>29345414
when will they return?

>>29347255
for real? Goddamn i knew she was retarded but shes actually a lost cause huh

>>29347314
>Nijitribalist
Literally holobrony terminology. Go back.
>>29348882
She really is, she switched her League stream to public for a reason. The only people eating good with Finana are the Valoguards (her special fanclub she's participating in.)

>>29347255
>>29345465
What the actual fuck, I knew it was a bit of a mess but it's much worse than expected.

>>29350162
It goes further.
>Valoguards started pestering ("playing") with her boyfriend directly
>They started to shit on and exclude her biggest supporters (Avros and Chris)
>She's been in damage control mode ever since.

>>29345338
secretly inviting uki to the off collab, futa/trap shit and the valoguard leak, plus other minor things repeatedly happening, just piled up until everyone had enough
her streams now are like 99% grey names
would be surprised if she had more than like 50 members left

>>29350607
>secretly inviting uki to the off collab
This was Pomu. Uki and Pomu were friends for years, Finana literally just met the dude in comparison. This is like saying Pomu invited Shu to the Hanamori meet up instead of Elira doing so. Pomu had much more to lose than Finana if she admitted to inviting a guy, regardless of him being "non-binary."
>would be surprised if she had more than like 50 members left
She didn't lose emotes, yet, so she's still fine. Based on sub timing, it will be 2-3 weeks before we see if she REALLY did take a hit on membership.

>>29345338
How embarrassing

>>29350607
I don't think she was the one who invited him, but she did lie to her parents about who was going to be there
That's mild shit tho, the worst thing about the offcollab was how she made pomu baby the shit out of her because she's absurdly irresponsible and couldn't plan for shit for a travel she was the one responsible for

I mean Gura is starting to pander by doing GFE just to remain relevant. That's even more sad.

>>29345338

>>29347255
NijiEN has management?

>>29352383
Of course they do, otherwise they would end up having to delete half of their channel for playing games without permissions

>>29347545
>source: my ass
Interesting cope tho, 10/10 for the creativity

>>29352383
Yes they do. Just because Hololive gets clapped and can't do anything interesting doesn't mean NijiEN is lacking management.

>>29352740
edutat youself

>>29352383
Management only cares about the guys since they are the money makers. I would be surprised if they even speak to the girls at all

>>29353518
makes sense

>>29353518
Honestly at this point, I doubt management is even able to keep up with her bullshit.
There's only so much they can do if they aren't checking her activities 24/7, which they obviously aren't doing.
They're not her parents after all.

>>29345465
I hope someone saves anon. He’s more deserving of it than Finana.

>>29345338
>Elira and Pomu distancing themselves from her, hard playing into their ship with each other
I don't want her to graduate, but it looks like they're preparing for something.
Honestly if she just streamed entertaining content she could very easily pull Elira's numbers instead of streaming Valo and gacha to 600~ groomers

>>29354197
>NijiEN managers after having to deal with another Finana yab and Yugo breakdown

>>29345338
Acting like a self-righteous whore ends badly every time. You'd think Nina would tell her to hide her power levels.

Who doesn't like traps? They're so cool.

Not like this nijibronies...

>>29355729
Baerys?
More like Basedrys.

>>29355814

>>29345338

Her numbers are faltering because of the waves of new Niji EN, they all are much dirtier and they become less filtered, Finana is known as the most Yabe before but her Kouhais are much more Yabai

The educate yourself incident wasnt the one giving her bad mumbers, it was Niji themselves.

>>29345338
She's spoiled and not very smart but on top of that is one of those types that gets very easily influenced and tries to appease whoever gives her attention
Leaving that type alone with no supervision or management interacting with groomers, twittards, fake friends and discords schizos was a recipe for disaster and self-destruction

>>29348681
between 4 to 6 years depending on the course

>>29345338
She went nasty to try and become the autistic en version of marine but then did a 180 going full sjw over traps and lolis.
Now both sides hate her.

Why are we having this timeloop again? What happened?

>>29351085
>Chumbuds constantly telling everyone how Gura has the best membership with the most value
>Retards don’t believe it until gifted membership exist and stuff gets leaked
It’s always been like this, we got a lollipop sucking asmr for valentines and she even did that maid asmr that’s public, this shit isn’t new.

>>29345338
youre being a chud, OP
educate yourself

>>29357277
You were told this numerous times yesterday:
It's not a "timeloop" when shit is still fresh. Don't act like this is forgotten about drama.

Stopped watching when she brought Uki to the off collab, will never go back until she apologizes and makes amends with a real off-collab with Pomu (she won't)

>>29347255
I'm restarded and can't find the leaked audition tape. Anon please help

So much for making fun of parasocials

>>29357370
Tell me which incident on this ryuguard list happened "recently"? >>29345465

anyone in this thread defending this puta is a falseflagger, most people in nijiEN related generals have a negative opinion of her

>>29345465
There was a stream where only 60 members were watching?

>>29345465
may I have a refresher on the whole off collab thingy? how long has it been, 3 months?

Be honest, who hasn't found themselves crying over traps?

>>29350905
>She didn't lose emotes
afaik you don't lose emote slots when you drop memberships, Lua from kawaii says that as long as you use the space it doesn't go away unless you drop members before putting something in it.

>>29345465
This is what actual betrayal looks like. Not collaborating with men, not posting wrong think, not talking about sex or having partners, but scorning the loyalty of your fanbase by establishing exclusivity groups and playing favorites rather than giving everyone who supports you a respectable distance. Even memberships are still distributed content intended for an audience. How can she ask people to keep walking alongside her if they're not even treading the same path together?
I hope this guy went elsewhere

>>29355378
>Yugo breakdown
qrd?

>>29345465
exactly how I felt about nyanners, the cucking being the straw that broke the camel's back

>>29358420
If she reuploads all her moon man covers then maybe just MAYBE I will forgive her.

>>29357675
Most of us just feel bad for her, I think. She's clearly pretty lost with this whole business.

>>29358420
She already had a boyfriend before, it's just that thistle it's a vtuber.

>>29358508
wasn't hers though, it's not her voice
... there I am, doing it again

>>29345338
yeah, what is wrong with her? this sort of thing encourages people to become unicorns and she's against that

>>29358355
Has a menhera breakdown every now and then, like last month she got drunk on stream and started crying and said how it would have been better if she was a man.

unless Finana stops being Uki's muppet, it's only gonna get worse from here

>>29359090
well that escalated a bit

>>29357190
It's funny because she probably could have easily been the EN Senchou (and almost as popular) had she simply improved her schedule and played a more interesting/varied set of games.
But also, much like Senchou herself, was actually as creative, eccentric, and hard working too.
But in the end, I guess that was all too much to ask of her...

Only time will tell though if she's able to course correct at all, let alone before it's too late...

>>29357468
https://twitter.com/ContainmentB239/status/1547736242330079233

>>29345465
this guy has no self-respect holy shit, too much copium

>>29359778
kek so fucking retarded

>>29359018
She should do the new stuff too.

>>29358083
Can't remember full specifics, but outline is that a long anticipated off-collab with Finana and Pomu was advertised as just them two, stream started with just them and was "ruined" part way through with the surprise appearance of Uki. They might have addressed the flak they got from it after, defending the choice, but that's basically it.

>>29358083
>Pomu and Finana were off-collabing, it was highly anticipated
>Pomu invited Uki as a surprise
>Uki ended up literally saving it by sacrificing his data for the equivalent of 2 months letting them use his hotspot
>Pomudachis went APESHIT to the point Pomu had to disable comments
>Finana took the fall for Pomu (cuz ryuguards weren't pissed) for inviting Uki "unannounced"
>Finana and Pomu had a duo space that was purely GFE the next day to "make up for it."

>>29361040
Add on that Finana openly lied to her parents so she could go

>>29361040
>cuz ryuguards weren't pissed
Just look at Finana's number now. Ryuguards weren't pissed alright.

>>29361040
>Uki ended up literally saving it by sacrificing his data
I mean I guess technically he saved it by ensuring there was a stream at all, but he just wasn't entertaining at all. Even now I got no clue what his fans see in him.

>>29345338
she educated herself

>>29361040
Pomu didn't invite Uki, Finana did.

>>29361893
This happened way before the current situation, they weren't pissed about Uki. I guarantee Finana being groomed by a subset of them and in "secret discords" with them is a much bigger issue to them.
>>29362056
That's what I mean, without him it would have been dead in the water. So in the end, Pomu made the right call lol. I don't watch Uki, so only thing I can see is that he's basically the tiktok cousin.

>>29361893
Unrelated

Do I need to be a tranny to join that secret finana discord? I want Valorant skins.

>>29359090
NO CHANCE SHE DID THAT, I REFUSE TO BELIEVE IT. THAT DID NOT HAPPEN!

>>29363938
Pretty sure Yugo actually more or less did that

>>29363938
You're right, we're all still fully convinced the obvious girl is a guy

>>29363938
She basically said that in a sense, not word for word wording, you can tell it was a 'dysphoria' meltdown though.

>>29362056
>Even now I got no clue what his fans see in him.
but he's gay

>>29358355

>>29363938
Yeah, I know you fucking soulless demons will lie and downplay every single time one of your "livers" fucks something up, so here:
https://files.catbox.moe/o83or4.mp4
Straight from the horse's mouth.
> translate
fuck you

>>29358355
>>29359090
>>29363938
https://files.catbox.moe/o83or4.mp4

>>29345411
This but unironically

>>29345338
>writing the names of superchatters
Is it like the banana riding twitch hot tub streamer?

>>29357190
jesus christ do not compare Marine to this absolute scum

>>29364190
"in a sense" no Yugo said it word for word. It was genuinely quite heart-wrenching

>>29364576
Bro chill, I was just in serious disbelief, I completely believe you, it's just that this is so fucking crazy I just don't want to believe it. How do we save her?

>>29364719
>do not compare whore (Japan) to whore (English)
ogey

>>29345465
Not even rrat. It's just fucking awful watching it all unfold from a distance. A lot of modern day women (not all) are a fucking mess. Oversized children with ZERO accountability for anything because lonely weirdos give them the time of day and still throw some $$ at them.

>>29364381
>>29364576
>>29364667
well, this makes me feel bad for her...

>>29359778
She's beyond retarded...holy fucking shit.

>>29345465
The infamous honkai stream was the end of her. That shit brought her groomer mods into the scene and fucked up everything. Fuck you Harvesth0r, and especially fuck you, Selephim.

>>29345338
Can't wait for the new girl to outdo her while being a prude

>>29364576
about yugo, does she regret not being born a male, or debuting in an all male wave/with a male avatar? I never watched her, but even if it's 'unprofessional' I always found her debut scuff very cute.
is she a tranny? or just getting brainworms from playing the reverse babiniku role?

>>29345338

>>29365592
Ask her what's wrong with being a girl. Keep asking until she's broken down the concept of "girl" into definable needs and desires that can easily be obtained. Then shame her for adopting a worldview that reinforces male/female stereotypes.

>>29366798
Dude, when they said SHE got drunk, I thought they were talking about Finana, honest, I didn't know they were talking about Yugo, isnt Yugo a guy, or is he trans?

>>29367100
A mentally ill woman

>>29365592
sorry, but nijifans have a tendency to lie and damage control almost on the level of ccp drones, so it's just a natural reaction.

>>29345338
Finana originally wanted her League stream to be members only, but found out last minute she couldn't do that.

>>29366582
female roleplaying as a male.
also Japanese.
naturally very uncomfortable with the vibes, and has a lot of trouble maintaining her "role".
don't think she actually wants to be male, I think it was just menhera sperging about not being able to roleplay the "Yugo" character very well.

>>29367100
Yeah. Female to male.
But /vt/ refuses to acknowledge trans people by their preferred pronouns because they feel personally attacked.

>>29367461
She ain't no tranny. At least not yet.

>>29367461
My pronouns are nigger/faggot and NOT ONCE has a single leftist respected them. However I am pleased that in contrast almost all anons are more than happy to refer to me as such.

>>29345465
Poor anon. I hope he find a better oshi.

>>29367327
I believe this. Compared to all the other members, Yugo's eyebrows are softer, there's a heavier eyelash emphasis and the lips are rounded instead of having more lower-lip emphasis like the other boys, but the body type is completely off, as if there was a design first and the face was edited after the pilot was confirmed.

>>29367727

>>29357190
>did a 180 going full sjw over lolis
Isn't she a lolicon?

>>29367258
>level of ccp drones
That's literally what they are. They've been like this for the longest time. Even when everyone was on /jp/.

>>29359090
HOLY SHIT
I hope you are right anon >>29367327
Menhera woman crying always touch my heart.

>>29361040
>Finana took the fall for Pomu
lmao, now do it again without omitting all the details that came out after the initial drama

other nijiEN did both of these way before finana. Why are you concernfagging when you dont watch vtubers

>>29367258
Nah it's cool, I don't blame you bro. Love.

>>29368021
yes until her "friends" tell her that it is not ok anymore.

>>29368021
Better question, isnt she a real life definition of a Loli, being 140 cm and all, and still being this openly perverted, and since she feels that way towards lolis, how does she feel about her viewers lusting over her since she is a Loli?

>>29369441
She isn't 140cm irl, that's her character height. She's around the same height as Pomu, and we know from a VRchat leak that Pomu is 150cm

>>29345338
>Be parasocial vtuber
>tell your parasocial gfe audience to fuck off, educate themselves and stop saying bad words like the many bad words she said over the years
>they leave
??? profit

>>29369357
So it didn't happen (yet)
>>29369441
>Finana
>Loli
LOL no, she literally wishes

>>29369699
Can't you scale the size of your model in vrchat?

>>29359778
>ISREAL
What the hell is she thinking?

>>29366550
context for the honkai shit please

>>29370055
In the VRchat config there is an area where the user specifies their irl height, so the trackers and headset can better calibrate to the user. Pomu accidentally showed hers when she was flipping through menus looking for some audio config settings. This value isn't the same as her character's height, 156cm.

>>29367327
she sounds like someone who needs to be protected somehow.

>>29345338
>turbo
Did you just say turbo?
The guy who posted above is TURBO gay and the guy below is triple as gay.

Is there any way for feesh to salvage her streaming career or is she railroaded towards graduation?

>>29368866
.. can I know them please?

>>29348681
Never, if they actually manage to educate themselves.

>>29370442
naked dogeza

>>29345338
Can't get worse than this

>>29345465
Finana did not and does not deserve this level of loyalty. Hope you found someone better, anon

>>29359090
Didn't it all started because of the earthquake in nipland?
IIRC her response to the event are seen as not respectful or something by the nips
After that she took a short self imposed break even though it wasn't necessary , after that her menhera-ness started to escalate
I still can't understand wtf management was thinking for placing a female nip who is not completely fluent in english in the male EN branch

>>29370241
Ahh, now I understand, thanks.

>>29359778
lmao hope she gets put on a tight leash by management (me)

>>29370444
Finana was basically a piece of shit during the whole travel, she kept whining about the cold despite pomu warning her to bring warm clothes and she maxed out her credit card so pomu had to pay for all her expenses

>>29361448
Why do women always lie? I don't think I can take it anymore. bros.

>>29370850
sexsexsexsexsexsexsexsexsexsexsexsexsexsexsexsexsexsexsexsexsexsexsexsexsexsexsexsexsexsexsexsexsexsex

>>29370442
If she is leaking more than just the audition video as Finana then she's going to be in a hot bed of shit from management for it. She needs to cut off all close contact with these people immediately.

nobody fucking watches streams and has to take secondhand information from a schizo hater. There's no real discussion going on

>>29370873
>she maxed out her credit card
.. on travel stuff, right?

>>29369116
thanks m8

>>29371006
Gacha expenses count as travel stuff if you're playing gacha while travelling, don't they?

Imagine living at home and getting enough money to buy an apartment and just piss everything away at gacha games
fucking stupid fish needs correction

>>29366550
Which honkai stream is infamous? I didnt watch any of them cause gacha shit.

>>29371253
how has this whole situation afected her earnings? maybe she never considered her earnings could drop, arrogance and all that.

>>29371370
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9bGicsuANA&t=18184s
is this one, but my timestamp is off, I only know is this one because some anon linked me to it a few months back. also the timestamp he provided seemed to me she was crying because of the story, not backseaters, but maybe I just didn't watch long enough.

>>29371381
She played LoL with viewers (public) yesterday, and only got $56 in superchats

>>29371381
Honestly hard to say at this time - her numbers are still average for her but there's a question of whether Ryugards will stay or finance her as generously as before. There seems to be little value in being a paid member if she's having a secret club on the side.

>>29370442
I think her career inside Nijisanji is pretty much doomed, but she can still try to jump ship to VShojo or try to make it as an indie. In my opinion, it feels like she's on the spectrum without realizing it, so if she can go get that confirmed, dropping it somewhere visible after graduating and saying she's sorry for how she acted and that she'll keep herself together from now on will be a pretty good sympathy card. If she plays around with some more obscure kinds of games instead of the gachashit like genshin, she can find an equally autistic demographic who might like the feel of an airheaded progressive valley girl with a big history of yabs but who's sincerely trying to avoid being dumb anymore

>>29371634
she can start making fc2 streams where she masturbates then I will donate and oshi her

>>29358318
Off topic but this is my main problem at a smaller level with Kronii.

>>29371006
Sure, travel gacha while on the plane.

>>29371634
She wouldn't be accepted in Vshojo with her low numbers, both in viewers and superchats, especially if Vshojo isn't even accepting their direct orbiters.

>>29366798
Aw, don't bug Yugo. Yugo is actually pretty okay from what I've seen. She accepted a bad role because that's what was on the table. Its not like she's doing any woke shit.

>>29345465
You forgot about how she scammed her fans who tried to put her on a screen in times square. They already payed hundreds of dollars and she told them to stop and "do something original".

>>29345338
Why does she act like a whore all the time though?

>>29371859
I don't think that counts as a scam unless she asked them to do that first. It is very inconsiderate of her though.

>>29371533
How public knowledge is this secret club stuff among her fans.

>>29370577
what did the hag snake ever do to you anon?

>>29359778
This is way beyond "retarded" at this point, Jesus Christ.
Now that I think about it, isn't that the first "audition leak" in the history of Nijisanji / vtuber agencies in general?

>>29361040
>Finana and Pomu had a duo space that was purely GFE the next day to "make up for it.

Wait really? What happened to our principles Nijichads?

>>29359778
Why would you share that with such (evidently) shitty friends? Not a ryuguard by a long shot but that does make me seethe, do we need to save Finana?

>>29371859
That never happened, fuck you people like to make up stories. It was during another birthday that Nina mocked her fans for not doing something big for her, like something in time square. Her fans did try to look for something but went nowhere. If you want to talk about something sad one of her Fans payed over $1.5k for a daki in her birthday, only for all this shit to happen and leave her for a better oshi

>>29372046
Not necessarily, Fumino "Noraneko" Tamaki showed her viewers her audition tape on stream, but her audition tape was quite literally a black screen with her just acting like a cat.

>>29372215
Noraneko will always be excluded when someone says first X of Nijisanji / vtuber agencies

>>29372079
It wasn't really GFE, it was a zatsudan where they flipped through an anime magazine they picked up, played Clubhouse Games together (audio-only), and sang english karaoke

>>29372286
Whyyyyyy, that's my oshi you know?

>>29372287
Don’t forget how pomu made a point to expressed how they did the twitter space because of the Uki surprise backlash

>>29372399
Noraneko love.

>>29372170
Yes, but only if she stops making things worse for herself and gets some help

>>29372425
To be fair the first stream sucked ass regardless of uki being there, it was a stuttering mess and then they went to play mario party with no audio

>>29372170
Some of the groomers are 2-view vtubers, they asked for tips, she gave em her vid, that's supposed to be unlisted and not shared because it's what she used for Nijisanji (and probably Hololive.) You usually will get permission to share it, on youtube, if it has no identifiable info. For example we got Noraneko's audition video.

>>29371833
yeah people keep forgetting this. Vshojo numberfags harder than anyone and only bets on sure things. Coco and Rushia, despite their respective yabs, are virtually guaranteed to succeed. Unless you're Melody's friend or have massive numbers you're not getting into Vshojo at this point.

>>29347255
>>29357102
>>29362406
Help me out here, what does grooming actually define nowadays? You're talking about a mentally competent adult as being groomed by other adults, and most of them probably a similar age as her. That's pretty far away from the original definition.

>>29373440
There's grooming, and then there's "grooming". Former being long-winded predation upon the under-aged, latter being more akin to manipulation & gaslighting. People just throw the word around without care for connotation

>>29373440
When it comes to Finana the definition is looser these days but it generally refers to basically manipulating and conditioning her to give special treatment to a certain selection of people.

>>29372944
and this is why they will end up being a retirement home for controversial vtubers from now on. Nobody with big enough numbers would give up what they're doing to join, or change their social bubble enough for it to make sense to join

>>29373440
it's what this thread is trying to do to her desu. She's still growing in subs and gets her regular noombers when streaming valorant or some other non-gacha game

Finana's problem is that she's legitimately a mix of dumb and immature. And not the fun, cute kind of immature, the bad kind.

>>29370234
>>29371370
>>29371463
Yeah the correct timestamp is around 5h07m

>>29373933
That might be fair, honestly, I want to hope she can just stop causing drama and incline

>>29373440
Women are fucking stupid and easily influenced, and people want to make excuses for them by blaming others

>>29373440
>You're talking about a mentally competent adult
are we?

>>29374418
I think she's autistic

>>29371950
She's lost 2 of her biggest paypigs over the secret club drama. You can just search for Chris in the archive to see people talking about the one that's from /here/

>>29359778
How did she get hired with this? This is awful.

>>29374334
why are honkai fans so cancerous?

>>29374875
Your audition video is literally just to get past the first audition, it doesn't hire or deny you.

>>29371737
Elaborate

>>29375076
Im finding it really funny that i literally did this for my audition just without any of the production values. Infact i played more fucking games than she did, she only showed 1.

>>29373440
Look at her yabs, most "influencers" are basically children playing pretend, so grooming is very much the correct word here.

>>29345424
Please don’t do it period

>>29374578
She's definitely not. Just a very typical retarded young woman - many such cases.
Source: I've had a lot of autists in my life

>>29373440
It works for finana because she's a literal child, despite her age.

How old is Finana?

>>29375991
early 20s

>>29353063
Don't make me tap the sign

>>29361040
>Pomudachis went APESHIT to the point Pomu had to disable comments
I'm not going to say she did or didn't disable comments but Pomu has had comments disabled on a shitloads of VODs many long before the off collab happened

>>29345465
I think you forgot the tweet where she said parasocial relationships are gross and Vox defended her for a minute against the haters and threw her under he bus to retain his Chinese fujo fanbase. I think that was the final nail in her coffin.

>>29374875
She either put a ton of effort into the written part of her audition, or really oversold herself on the "Hololive Finalist" aspect that she liked to tout on Twitter. (whether she actually was or not, nobody will ever know)
That and NijiEN staff were probably looking for someone with a cutesy voice to fit the model they had

Is it even fun to shit on her anymore?

>>29376602
She said she wrote at least 10 pages on the written part

>>29359090
Yea, I would have hated being born a woman in Japan too.

>>29376668
It's always fun to shit on a trainwreck

>>29376602
Finana's cutesy voice is perfect for that model. She had a great shtick going at the start, "cute innocent girl wants to be a slut but she's too shy and sheltered to leave the house." Adding men into NijiEN hurt Finana the most, because what is she supposed to do now?
>just go and be a slut for them, becoming a shitty porn star
>continue to pretend she can't interact with guys even though she's obviously interacting with them just fine

Finana can be cute but she does her best to be the most annoying and retarded she can possibly be

>>29376731
She's been living in Thailand for a long while but moved back to Japan just because she was starting in NijiEN.

>>29359778
God now I need to see all the niji and HoloEN auditions

Finana is retarded, should have tried again for Council.

>>29377012
Literally a made up problem, she didn't have to change anything.

>>29377397
Why would hololive want a retarded slut

Remove the TRAP ban and i will rewatch you finana banana

>>29377589
She did remove it, made a whole apology stream and everything, but that is the least of her issues

>>29376585
That was Reimu

>>29345338
What went wrong? The gacha fags sunk her viewership faster then the iceberg sunk the Titanic. Look at any of gacha video's views. F1 for weebs gets more viewers than her gacha videos.

As someone who frequented a gacha Discord I can tell you one thing. These fuckers are manipulative and can be on the intelligent side. There's very little chance that Finana even knows what is going on. The story angle is pretty strong because good gacha develop a lore for the sake depositing more characters into the game.

Putting that together, these gacha Discord fags think that fucking gacha lore is better for her viewership than the content that actually grows her channel.

Reading all this it just feels like she's really just easily manipulated and misguided.

>>29377488
You've really put the bumper lanes on this one

>>29377012
could have stuck with her character as it was a compelling niche

Surely she can't be that stupid that she can't see via her metrics that the gacha streams are tanking her.

>>29377759
Also known as being a young woman.

>>29377867
she had a maplestory stream
don't think she cares

>>29359778
This is a very good demo reel. I’m almost in shock at how this dummy could put together something so concise yet thorough.

>>29373440
Manipulating is a better word to use

>>29377823
she wasn't actually playing a character though, she was just naturally like that.
She lost her innocence :(

>>29372170
>do we need to save Finana?
Can't save her when she doesn't want to be saved herself
She already got bonked by management for voice chatting with her secret club groomers and said she wasn't allowed anymore, but still does it anyway using an alt account

>>29361040
>Finana and Pomu had a duo space that was purely GFE the next day to "make up for it."
I really wonder how those conversations go irl.

>uhh what do we do pomu?
>Fuck you finana its your fault, umm lets do gfe, those nerds love that stupid shit
>Brillant!

Is it true that half the NijiEN girls' audition videos just got leaked?

>>29378496
like the other anon said, it wasn't really GFE at all. they just got a lot of angry comments saying they wanted Pomu + Finana, no males, so that's what they did. Doesn't really need a lot of deep market analysis to figure out what their fans want.

>>29379019
No

Sorry Finana, you don't get to just sweep your crimes under the rug and hope it gets pushed off catalog. Bump

her apology video with her real voice was so fucking cringe

>>29375290
have you considered that you're not a woman or deep chainsmoker

>>29375290
Are you going to audition again? I'm genuinely interested.

>>29380064
As a former Ryuguard, bump

>>29380727
Probably. But this time i'll probably actually spend time one it instead of going "fuck it" on the last day and speedrunning it. Had to do some editting fuckery to make it look like they were actual recorded clips and not me adding it in post cause deadline.

This whole groomer drama has been blowing up even on her fan discord. Finana has to address at some point or else she'll keep bleeding support

>>29381591
How would you even explain this to management

>>29381591
pics or gay

>>29381669
A crying apology and hope they weak to her tears?
Anyways I'd be surprised if they don't already know about and are trying to figuring out how to go about handling the situation since it's gonna be so embarrassing for the whole branch

>>29381949
It's a nothingburger, stop trying to make a big deal out of it

>>29382099
Whatever you say, groomer

>>29381591
she's already losing some of her biggest donators and art contributors

>>29382321
brutal

>>29382321
Update your screenshot, he removed his finana oshi mark

>>29382099
>nothingburger
>three of her biggest gachi's dropped her like a fucking rock
lmao ok

>>29381491
Ahhh, cool. In that case good luck anon. Wishing you the best bro. :D

>>29382897
My odds aint great. From what i can tell you need to atleast be a 2view to get in, and i aint a 2view.

>>29382321
Ooof lol

>>29383153
You can be one if you start now.

That's just being on the grind, something she should continue doing, no shame in that

>>29382321
Savage.

>>29383220
Probably but im a lazy fuck. Plus i cant draw so no PNG Tuber stuff.

>>29383153
You don't need to be a 2view, you need to have more than 100k subs

>>29382321
>>29382503
>Israel
https://twitter.com/Chris_Flandre/status/1550777489307406336

>>29371859
>>29371947
For some reason, I remember this thread. The discordfags asked for advice from someone experienced who had done the billboard celebration and was told by her not to bother if they couldn't get the funds within x months ahead of time.
Some SEA ESL anons misread that entire discord convo as Finana telling them not to bother.

>>29358318
Oh wow, I actually agree with this.

>>29383516
Ah okay thanks for clearing that up I thought she was the one saying it too

>>29383364
Yeah, thats gonna take a while.

>>29382099
you fags said the same thing with rushia, stop the copium, it's green hunting season

>>29383516
Oh she wasnt the one sayin that? Man, thats a fuckin hilarious misunderstanding.

I want that secret discord for the sole purpose of a wild high quality cumtribute on her retarded dumb face.

>>29359778
is it true that many nijiENs audition tapes got leaked then?

>>29359778
I thought it was bullshit. I thought there was no damn way any of it was true, right after Rushia got fired for similar bullshit. I thought she had enough SENSE to avoid doing what she was fired for

I was wrong. What the actual fuck is she thinking? Did she get cocky because she had just signed her contract for another year a few months ago?

>>29372046
Rushia showed her paypigs her audition didn't she? Except this is more stupid since it's just Finana showing random paypigs, not even her most devout, her tape

>>29378474
Proof of her saying management actually punished her? If she's still doing it she's fucked. Management may be shit at scouting talent, but I do think they're based for how much shit they're able to stand. But this? This is going to be too far

That "sekrit discord" isn't actually secret and the invite was shared during her member stream.
Does this disprove that there is secret groomer group among her fans? No. But the information in that pastebin is a result of doxxing.
Management wouldn't do anything here because there have zero liability resulting from this.

>>29359778
Not gonna lie this is a very good audition, being able to show a quick introduction, and clips backing up your claims. No wonder she was hired despite not even debuting properly

>>29388259
https://files.catbox.moe/6mbbdl.mp4

>>29370442
She's fucked
>Showed her audition tape
>Management knows about her secret discord, told her to stop doing it
>She ignored them to keep doing it in an alt account
I'm pretty sure the first point is against contract, but they might've let it slide if she didn't ignore them telling her to fuck off from the discord. The other EN talents probably know about it too, so why would they want to trust her with anything going forward?

>>29387398
No. If they did we would have seen them by now. They have no loyalty to Finana, why would they for anybody else?

>>29388479
Christ. She really doesn't realize how deep shit she's in does she?

>>29359163
Mostly agree with you, but also wondering.
What could she even do, in her own power, that would help by now?
In my opinion, the only thing that could make people calm down is her taking a long break and then coming back with the stuff she is good at.
Like her songs and ability to make games like the story heavy honkai interesting.

>>29388931
Its finana, she thinks she can just puppy dog eye you and be fine. She did it to Pomu in NY, after all. And the rest of EN considering how much they baby her.

>>29389510
I don't think Finana taking a break is going to solve anything.
This isn't a single issue that set people off, it's a collective of constant issues over a year, piling up one after the other, and people have had enough of having their trust betrayed.
She's had dozens of opportunities to properly communicate with her audience and find out what the dedicated people, the ones who actually regularly watch her, wanted from her streams and instead she chose to ignore them in favor of her FFXIV RP friends, and now she's losing even her most dedicated supporters because of it.

>>29389510
Taking a break is the worst decision anyone could ever make. Vox still owns the biggest yab in NijiEN by a mile. He kept streaming and is now pass 1 million subs.
Everything else is minor in comparison. Yugo is the only one who took a break from yab and his growth suffered from it.

>>29390364
Alright, but then what? Has she missed all the chances she had? Or is she just going to fizzle out over time? I left her membership months ago and just don't see any reason to come back to a burning dumpsterfire until things get managed.

>>29390611
A hundred minor things can be pretty bad too, the biggest thing I can not stand from her is her hypocrisy.

>>29391292
At this point, alot of the damage is pretty much irreparable. But first, she has to cut herself away from her sekrit discord club, stop with the gachashit streams, and then attempt to build herself back up. But in order for that to happen, she herself has to see there's a problem with the current route she's going, something she seems incapable of doing and won't be capable of seeing until it's too late and management puts a hard foot on her.

>>29345465
that fucking anon is like an actual battered housewife what the fuck

>>29391292
>Alright, but then what? Has she missed all the chances she had? Or is she just going to fizzle out over time?
Pretty much. She already exposed what kind of person she is, and that won't change no matter how many apologies she makes or how many breaks she takes. If after getting bonked by management for the discord thing she still went and did it again behind their backs, it shows she's a person who's word has little to no value. If she can go and lie to the people who gave them this opportunity to their faces, why would any sort of apology addressed to her fanbase, who are just some people over the internet, be taken seriously?

>>29373440
Finana clearly is not a mentally competent adult.

>>29391292
She would have to start making good content, not just random streams of popular games but actually good content that people outside of NijiEN or maybe even vtubing would want to watch.

>>29345465
Pandering to a spesific group of discordfag is always a mistake no matter how big it is

>>29371859
Oh I was there.
That shit didn't even get past first emails lol

>>29388589
If she really were fucked, something would have happened by now
CAPTCHA: An Rat

>>29392933
This. It's typical /vt/ fashion to exaggerate the fuck out of everything and make literal mountains of molehills. Making something seem like career-ending yabs is par for the course here

>>29393952
Niji puts gag orders on their chuubas, that's why no one found out about Roa's bullying for months

>>29392933
>Went behind managements back to give private shit to random pigs
>Not even her most loyal ones
>Management finds out and tells her to stop it
>She decides to ignore management and still do it in a side-account
>Showed them her goddamn demo reel
Why would anyone, management included, ever trust her word again?

>>29394658
Is she gonna get fired?

>>29394658
Yeah this is rushia tier shit, and look where she ended up.

>>29395116
Probably get low priority for stuff

>>29395116
If she does it'll look bad on Nijisanji.
If she doesn't, it'll look bad on Nijisanji.

>>29359778
Does this break any serious rules?

>>29395206
by this logic, as long as keeping her around doesn't cost more than what she brings the company, she'll just stay around, and hopefully one day she'll come to her senses

>>29395206
Poor Tazumi-san...

>>29395206
Does that mean they'll do the "ignore her untill she leaves the company on her own" thing?

>>29371859
People like you is why we get retards like Joe Biden and Donald Trump as President of the United States.

>>29392933
>would have happened by now
You do know it takes awhile when contract shit is related, right? They also just had their year anniversary, meaning contracts were no doubt renewed. It's not a quick process. Even Rushia took a while to be shitcanned.

>>29395154
You don't even know what Rushia did.

>>29395232
As far as I know the livers aren't allowed to share things that clearly connect their Nijisanji profile with their PL.

>>29395206
In general everything is complicated, recognizing the problem and apologizing for it will not solve anything, firing her will not solve anything either, as absurd as it may sound the best option for all parties is to ignore the issue, currently you can see how desperate Finana is to get her people back, which she will not achieve and even if she does, she will not get her community back.

>>29395883
DM'd her paypigs, sent em videos, leaked a buncha shit to a keemstar, tried to say cover lied in their press release. Did i miss anything?

>>29397270
And your sources?

>>29397270
Ignore him, he's been insufferable in the holothreads despite Mikeneko herself admitting to things recently. He searched for "Rushia" and landed here.

>>29395116
Potentially, she just renewed her contract about a month or three ago. It's certainly grounds TO fire her if they care, angry, or are impatient, enough

>>29395232
Playing with people who aren't vtubers in voice chat or the like is against rules, and obviously showing your demo reel is unless you get explicit permission by management to do so, of which only a few have ON STREAM not privately to some of her fans. Finana's is especially fucked because it was her previous life

>>29398885
Nijisanji contracts are 2 years

>>29395593
They might yeah. Ignoring her for any future merch or voice pack amongst other things
>>29397107
The saddest part is you can see even the people she felt worth playing with aren't loyal to her, because they leaked her demo reel and all of this drama shit. I do think she's just a stupid kid who's been groomed by her fanbase, and refusing to listen to management because she thinks her fans have her best interests in heart, or vice versa

>>29399177
EN contracts are yearly. When you see a gen go on long breaks, that's when you can tell they just renewed contracts

>>29399326
The only ones who have hit 1yr so far are Lazulight and Obsydia, and of the 6 only one (Rosemi) has gone on an actual break.

I'm out of the loop because the coof fucked me up but do we know exactly where and when the leaked debut popped up? The obvious assumption to make is that she leaked it to her cabal after getting bonked by management for voice chatting but is there anything solid to indicate it?

>>29397107
>she will not get her community back
She still has a community but most of her most dedicated left.
Her two biggest paypigs, a Ryuguard who organized most of her fan projects (including the VN), some artists (like Naokomama but that was from earlier), among others. She basically has no other choice but to rebuild everything the Ryuguards had going on over the past year by getting new gachis and people willing to do new fan projects for her.

>>29399639
On July 14th or before going by the tweet