/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

I'd put Ina lower but I agree with IRyS and Kronii

>Kiara
>Above Avarage

>>29281810
OP, do you really think that a chubba who likes to eat spiders, has a split personality, and basically gone through a period of self-victimization with the Coco debacle would have a strong mental state?

Where's Towa?

>>29281965
yes, actually. you just described what id consider to be the ideal mentally strong person

I feel an overwhelming compulsion to protect and save IRyS and Kronii. Not Ollie, though, for whatever reason.

>>29281965
that was her training arc. she's ready to fight cell now

>>29281941
Half the people on this list would have killed themselves if they led her life.

>>29281810
Fauna is the least menhera vtuber I have ever seen

>>29282047
>that was her training arc. she's ready to fight cell now
Bruh, I would legit like to see that.

>>29281810
No way Bae is that high. She's lost her drive ever since giving up her cat.

>>29281986
No HolostarsEN.

>>29282083
Jesus kfp shut the fuck up your dumb whore has no idea how a hard life is even spelled. She would've jumped off a bridge for even a fraction of the shit others here have to deal with.

>>29281810
>Ina
>Above average
Holy kek

whats up with irys? she seemed pretty neutral to me

>>29282083
I still remember one of her first member streams after debut spent crying for two straight hours because she was lowest in subs for myth, and because she thought her big selling point was her ability to speak Japanese but EOPs didn't want to hear that shit.. She almost numberfagged herself to death in the year before council debuted. Whatever you think of her, she's not mentally strong.

>>29281965
I get all my information from seanig clippers as well.

>>29281810
I would be in fucking ruins if I went through what haato went through not just in her vtubing career but in her life in general
I don't think comparing others to her is right

>>29281810
Did you accidentally invert the chart or something?

>>29282695
depressed

>>29282515
t. cuckbeat thinks learning how to drive in a ferrari is having a hard life

>>29282083
If I was Kiara, I wouldn't have gone to Japan in the first place

>>29282083

>>29283954
have a nice vacation lol

I don't like her voice but i will always respect someone for moving far away and chasing their dreams.

>>29282699
>autistic weeb that went to live in japan isnt mentally strong
Oh shit no way

>>29283117
Junkies do not have above average mental health deadcuck.

>>29281965
She's unflusterable.

>>29281810
I agree with IRyS being in menhera/depressed

>>29282515
mori grew up in a suburban neighborhood and had a grandfather that picked her up from private school in a ferrari

>>29284944
>grandfather that picked her up from private school in a ferrari
a rich bitch, huh....?

>>29281810
>Ina
>Ame
>Above average

>>29282699
People are strong for overcoming adversity, not for avoiding it. Like using the list for reference, Haato's a fucking champ but Baelz seems to have had one of the easiest rides in life of anyone in holopro period from what we know

>>29284986
Grandparents were rich, parents were not.

>>29281810
Fauna should be above average.
If it were me in the Minecraft collab, I literally would've let them all die.

>>29283884
She probably thought that she would be like Asuka.

>>29285881
Yeah, the EoE hospital scene probably wasn't what she was thinking

>>29281810
Where does haachama rank?

>>29282026
I wanna fuck Olivia desu

>>29281810
I don't really think IRyS' overwork-induced depression is tantamount to Kronii's "lost-her-virginity-to-some-random-asshole-at-age 15" level of menhera

>>29287046
>Kronii's "lost-her-virginity-to-some-random-asshole-at-age 15" level of menhera
Did she or rrats?

>>29287046
That's just the reality for a lot of girls. The first time usually is emotionally scarring because the guys are assholes to them after.

>>29287046
Kronis what now?

>>29281810
Anya keeps on streaming regularly despite her numbers being garbage. She deserves a higher spot

Magni “I haven’t had solace for the last ten years” Dezmond

Women are all mentally weak. That is what makes them women.

>>29288541
Magni is already tragedyposting on his 3rd stream.
https://youtu.be/VvzO-buAqSA

You need to have a separate tier for Hachaama.

>>29289004
>I have no idea what you are talking about but... nice...
Axel is proving himself as the only good homostar

>>29287046
>tantamount to Kronii's "lost-her-virginity-to-some-random-asshole-at-age 15" level of menhera
This is a new rrat

>>29289004
Axel based af. I disliked his furry bait model but this might make me watch him. Why am I watching male VTubers more than female ones!?

>>29289004
oh that hurt

>>29283620
>>29284944
>Suddenly Mori
Are you brain damaged?

>>29281810
Move Fauna to above average and Kiara to Depressed/Menhara and move Baelz, Ame and Mumei down one step and it is correct.

>>29281810
Mumei is weak but only shows it in member streams.

>>29289004
So, what about worms?

>>29282699
that was old kiara, the new current kiara overcame that and is mentally stronger than the rest of myth

>>29285243
>Ina, hardly ever leaves the house when she does its accompanied
>Ame, cant live without helping another person she needs it to feel valid

This guy knows

>>29291831
She still menhara tweets on her roommate's twitter all the time so no. Its like watching a sad clown.

>>29281810
Ought to switch Bae with Ioppi.

>>29292173
>calling that menhera
ok buddy

>>29289004
In his defense, it was like 4 am in his timezone

>>29289004
he's so dumb, i love him...

>>29290431
they stream more and are funny, who woulda thunk not all male chubas are shitty like what niji put out

>>29281810
Every version of this tier list is shit. You contribute nothing to the world.

>>29293465
Why was he even up that late for a messy gorilla stream? Seems like a rash move.

>>29281810
Mumei is very cute and vulnerable and should be moved down a tier.

>>29281810
irys is strong since her roomate has A LOT of friends

>>29281810
Gura is at the very least neutral.

>>29294420
you know nothing about gura if you think she's neutral

>>29281810
Good list, this man definitely watches streams
Only thing I would change is that Fauna and Gura should be moved up by one

Fauna needs to be at least one tier up and Ina needs to be one or two tiers down

>>29281810
where's watame tsunomaki?

>>29286596
yes.

>>29298250
Kill yourself max0r
You arent funny

>>29281941
t. hasn't watched her in 18 months, I'm guessing. Her early dooming is a great cautionary tale of how long first impressions last.

>>29282026
Irys I get, but why kronii? In fact, I wouldn't consider her mentally ill, but rather just an uptight ungrateful zero-fun dickhead

>>29294389
>irys is strong since her roomate has A LOT of friends
roru meccha rumao

>>29298638
she's made way too many jokes about killing herself to be stable

>>29299188
People actually capable of suicide don't joke about it or mention it at all

>>29282026
>Not Ollie
Never forget yubigate

>>29289004
That sounds like the start of a great comedy duo.

>>29282699
>>29291831
That is actually an overexaggeration of old Kiara. Also, as soon as Kiara left Japan and her miserable life there she became another person entirely. So february of 2020 is her most poignant moment of change.
>>29292173
Not really, she posts something sad once per month or something like that and its always vague as fuck.

>>29299457
[her ________ killed herself anon]

>>29291742
>>29294264
Mumei's a fucking trooper all things considered, should be one or two up IMO.

>>29299963
doesnt matter she still does ME me Me shit she also still weird about pekora

>>29299457
>People actually capable of suicide don't joke about it or mention it at all
Oh you poor, naive son of a bitch.

>>29299457
lold

>>29300901
WHAT

>>29301713
why do you think she is depressed all the time anon?
Her roommate lost someone close to them before she got into Hololive

>>29301469
>>29301644
It's true. If you talk about suicide, you're merely an attention whore. If you have an acquaintance who killed themselves and they talked about it beforehand, they succeeded by accident in the process of trying to get attention. Sorry your dead relative or whatever was such an attention whoring retard, luckily they ended on a high note by removing their worthless whiny ass from existence, so take solace in that.

>>29302506
Whoa bro I can see your fedora from here

>>29294420
why can't mori address her haters in a way that's funny like gura

>>29302506
Retardchama, it's possible to be both an attention whore AND be suicidal. In fact, that is a big part of female suicidality.

>>29281810
>Iofi
>Weak
So she's vulnerable? I'll become her biggest gachi

>>29302779
Agreeing with her antis and calling her fans cucks on twitter wasn't funny to you?

>>29288307
No but at least he's got a bad case of worms.

>>29303081
No but everything Mori does is bad and I should hate it

>>29284635
fucking kek

>>29286596
Her persona is menhera but the actual talent is strong.

>>29294420
you don't watch her do you?

>>29281810
>the blond ID
lmao did you not see her trying to talk to Gura during her call-in stream? The bitch is pure autism.

>>29302506
wow ur so cool anon, but please take a shower I can smell you from my monitor

>had antis and schizos from day 1 but never once felt a need to address or even acknowledge them
>never curses or yabs even when frustrated
>a unityfag through and through that supports everyone and wants everyone to succeed
>maintained a steady 4th place in her gen while never showing any signs of caring about the numbers
>never had any big blowouts on twitter or on stream
>maintains one of the more special needs fanbases without dragging any of their weird shit or memes into stream
>never explicitly panders to her fanbase outside of rare ara aras
>also never felt a need to publicly reprimand her fanbase for being weirdos
>never cried on stream even during her genmate's graduation
>only extended breaks have been for travel or illness
>still found time to stream even when recovering from coof
>has maintained her kayfabe for almost an entire year despite her retarded management mandated lore
>one of the most GFE capable holos but never engages in any parasocial behavior even behind membership
Fauna's mental is incredibly strong and the amount of professionalism that she maintains near constantly is unmatched in EN. Bae is the only one of her peers that even comes close.

>>29308450
>>never cried on stream even during her genmate's graduation
she did while talking about her cat

>>29289004
Why are they pngtubers now?

>>29308450
I think that's all less mental strength and more mental stability. Not saying she's not mentally strong, but strength is being able to climb up from your lowest which is different for everyone.

>>29281810
>ame
>unstable home life
>poorfag
>several random injuries that couldve destroyed her life if she wasnt lucky enough
>emotional damage from family and loved ones
>still able to stay positive and tell people to have a good outlook on life
>only in above average

>>29310468
Well yes because she needs a stair to climb to self improve herself

>>29300901
Is this rrat true though? I've never seen any proof. If it is, I really feel bad for her and I wish she feel better.

>>29281810
Move iofi to menhera

>>29312220
Explain?

>>29281810
>Haachama on the same level as Kaela?
What?

>>29281810
What is wrong with IRyS?

>>29321002
Management neglect manifesting into depression and her abusing prescription meds on stream.

>>29281810
Moona should be lower imo, she's easily stressed out

>>29281941
Anyone that can keep up a consistent streaming schedule is not menhera

>>29281810
>kronii and IRyS are below an actual bedwetter
top kek

>>29281810
moona should be at weak. moona regulars know this.

>>29321002
Bette streamer than all of council yet management wont recognise her
It would drive anyone insane

>>29284635
is this what living in SEA does to someone?

>>29281965
You forgot her pokemon champion boyfriend, Red.

>>29281810
I'd put Ina lower but I agree with IRyS and Kronii

>>29328412
I thought she'd be at depressed

>>29328981
no thats living is australia

>>29310468
The real answer is that if we ever admit ame is at the top rather than close to the top, she'll lose motivation to keep improving herself. Kiara should be way lower though, fuck that menhara bitch

>>29281810
If Risu is "neutral", then Moona is one-step below her. Risu and Anya are the highest in HoloID, followed by Moona, Reine, and Iofi on more or less same tier. I will not call Moona weak though so maybe bump up Risu and Anya to "above-average" while others are on same level. Ollie is weak but she's not depressed/menhera imo.

I cannot comment on 3rd gen. Kaela is at least same as Anya and Risu tentatively as well as Kobo, while Zeta seems to be a step below.

>>29328412
Nah she's not weak, but also not strong so kinda neutral. I personally bump Risu and Anya at least one-tier higher than Moona

>>29282699
Stop, stop I'm gonna saaaaaaaaaaaaaaave

>>29285254
She didn't overcome it though. She cried a lot about being the worst of her gen then settled for milking her tranny simps dry. Not exactly an inspiring story.

>>29289004
Kek that was legitimately funny.

>>29341284
>Zeta seems to be a step below
What happened?

>>29343367
>Still seething
RUMAO

>>29282083
Gee, it sure is hard being a trustfund kiddy who had everything in life handed to them.

>>29281810
False.

>>29281810
okay

>>29281810
I don't think it's fair to compare any of them to haachama
the chinkout alone would've broken any of these girls if it happened because and to them

Blackpill me on IRyS. Just because Cover ignores her it doesn't mean she's automatically menhera.

>>29289004
>Gen mate trying to open up to him about his sad past
>Nice

Kek

Axel is an actual chad. I might consider start watching him.

>>29347288
She takes depression meds and is a bit menhera due to how mismanaged she is.

>>29348296
>She takes depression meds
Timestamp?

Apart from her justified complaints about how she's being neglected by management, what other menhera moments has Irys had to be in that category?

>>29347288
Let's see
>Decides to chase her dream and goes to Japan but because of this, she can't be with her family members
>Thinks of herself as a disappointment and has some self esteem issues(mostly an Aisan mentality as her sister is a Doctor and she often compares herself to her sister)
>The very reason she started streaming was so that she can cope up with her personal problems and can get people's approval
>She trained and practiced for 10+ years when it came to singing. But despite that, she can't avoid the inevitable throat problems, and from the looks of its getting worse. It's like a virus.
So it's sad for her to see her "speciality" being taken away from her
>And lastly, she is super freaking lonely.
She is about to become a hag soon and hasn't had a half-decent relationship from the looks of it. She thinks she is gonna be alone for the rest of her life

>>29347288
>literally gets to the 'g' before it hits her she's about to call a video game baby a nigger live on stream in front of thousands of people

>>29348699
I can save her

>>29348699
If i remember correctly, wasn't she talking about how she fainted in one of her recent streams??

>>29348699

>>29281810
I'm tired of you guys not including Stars everytime we're talking about HoloEN. They are still part of Hololive

>>29348991
Dude, the fuck you on about??
They just debuted less than a week ago

Bae isn't strong. She's just a normie that hasn't had anything bad happen to her yet

>>29348699
This genuinely made me feel bad for her

>>29348812
That's nothing to get menhera about except if you're a twitter troon.

>>29301384
Mumei is very weak and should be near the bottom. She's baby tier.

>>29308450
Yeah, Fauna is easily top 3, probably top spot.

>>29310386
That's unquantifiable and just makes you rate all the people who experienced hardship high simply because they have the misfortune of being in that position.

>>29348699
I love how this isn't half of what the average guy goes through. I guess standards are different for cute girls.

>>29283954
MODS = FAGS

>>29349091
She has been through some shit, you just don't know because you don't watch her

>>29302506
there's a big difference between talking about suicide and joking about suicide

>>29287046
niceguybros, why don't they let us treat 'em right and avoid this?

>>29348699

>>29289004
lmao that was pretty good

Everyone is fine.

>>29348699
iwys ;;

>>29349973
>probably top spot.
if we're including haato then no, 2nd? maybe.

>>29281810
Ina is unironically depressed

Magni was mentioned earlier in the thread, so I'll add this:
He's not the one to watch.
The one to watch is Regis. He's a schizo. And a potential yab machine.

>>29358223

>>29359167
Anon...
He's a fucking weirdo. He goes on walks at 3 am just to dance. He sneaked out of his room as a kid by tying taekwando belts together, just because he wanted to buy monster. He keeps making jokes about rape and shit and relentlessly makes weird comments and shit.

>>29359296
lmao, any other stories?

>>29358223

>>29359296
What rape joke?

as kfp, bird should be lower, not menhera because she is doing much better, but she still seems to be racking up stress and has revealed that she finds it hard to rest because work is always on her mind. Maybe neutral at best.

I would put Mori higher, well...hard to say, she is similar to Kiara. neutral at best also. She is doing better as well. Both have healthier lifestyles with some exercise and diet.

I dont watch anyone else and cant say more.

>>29359442
He keeps doing the "don't drop the soap" prison rape joke to Magni in their A Way Out collab (implying Magni'll get raped) and also said that he was scared that his ass might be too nice to be safe in prison showers.

>>29359409
Elaborate

>>29359296
All of that is based, nerd.

>>29299457
>>29302506
is this newfag or bait?

How was the Iofi ASMR?

>>29359733
There are different types of suicidal person. Are you newfag?

>>29359442
Just a Rrat or somthing taken out of context from a stream. Ive been watching him, nothing serious.

>>29359979
anon...
>>29359554

>>29328981
Tap water from the Philippines started her journey of self discovery, but it was under the eucalyptus trees of Australia where she achieved true enlightenment

>>29281941
With all the shit she's put up with? And she still streams more then the rest of her gen. She also gives a fuck about her fans too.

>>29282515
You would kill yourself trying to be a child idol in a country that hates foreigners

Ame should be top tier.
Serious poorfag and from unhealthy family life but still decides to stay positive despite everything.
Does everything to help others, even though it's not beneficial to her own viewership.

>>29359577
>Regi: Actually 500IQ Light meme behind his fake uguu persona
>Axel: So fucking Australian it hurt
>Magni: Like to riled people up
>Vesper: Chad

>>29281810
>kiara
>not an SS+ tier menhera

>>29343580
She's normal compared to Kaela and Kobo. Kaela have that monstrous mental stability to stream constantly, while Kobo is just so brazen for the current rising star of ID. That's all. Zeta probably similar to Iofi and Moona.

Ollie is the most extroverted, but also kinda the weakest mentally. Have pretty big impostor syndrome too with her position as third-highest ID, and also the only ID who kinda hesitated to bonk someone. Its a good thing that she's gen-mate with Reine (somewhat strong mentally too) and Anya (same). Not menhera-tier though imo

>>29292173
You mean the roommate account that gets actively taunted by stalkers following her to restaurants? A lot of people drop off the grid over less.

>>29281810
>Ame and Kiara above Fauna
>Fauna not in the same tier as Bae
I REALLY need an explanation for this one.

>>29285290
Grandparents will spoil their grandchildren though.

>>29285290
Damn so she has more in common with that cringe bitcoin thief rapper than even regular whitoids

>>29343800
But enough about Mori. And Gura for that matter. And probably most of Council.

>>29308450
>Rage quit and no longer does live ASMRs because she couldn't handle basic banter.

Please don't let this thread die

>>29359409
so regis was male mumei the entire time

>>29375232
Much worse, Mumei only makes "scary" drawings, this guy dances on the streets at 3am and is making rape innuendos on his first few streams

>>29375232
He's male Fauna. Mumei is a very normal nice girl when you get passed the exterior. Fauna is a total freak that's just socialized well enough that you only see it sporadically.

>>29348296
>>29348388
Those are not depression meds, she said they were sleeping pills because she's been having problems to sleep.

>>29348699
Her situation is worse than I thought, it's like Kiara's situation in 2020 but actually worse. I really hope someone helps IRyS, a sweet girl like her doesn't deserve to go through this.

>>29349091
She's Aussie. It's in her blood.

>>29284635
Fucking based the both of them.

>>29348699
Damn, my inner gossling want to save her.

>>29359554
That's just a normal part of american culture, they joke about being raped by black men in prison all the time, whenever they are talking about a criminal they don't like it always develops into "haha that scumbag is going to get raped in prison"

>>29283117
How in the fuck do you think Kronii should be any higher than menhera?

That woman is a mental breakdown waiting to happen.

>>29281810
>irys
QRD? I don't watch her but i thought she was oblivious happy.

>>29375654
No one who played that much dota2 in the past can be wholesome, really

Bamp

>>29302362
Is there any proof about this? I know she lost someone because she said it once but people here seem to know more in details.

>>29392387
Has been depressed and lonely for a decade, sister is a succesful married doctor and before Hololive she was just a cake with a youtube channel. She joined hololive and then cover treats her like shit.

>>29284635
Scripted drama, boring shit as usual from attention whorechama

>>29411532
is there any reason to believe she's actually more mentally ill than your typical chuuba though. no one in holo, much less holoen particularly screams "great mental health" so seeing her at the bottom seems unlikely.

>>29415552
I think she's the only one in EN that has talked about being on mood stabilizers

>>29416282
The mystery of whether or not she's very bad but much better at handling it than other girls actually managing her mood and getting medicated, or not very bad at all but much worse venting to her chat and jumping the gun.

>>29390841
Sounds fucking gay. They should be roping faggots, not giving their disease room to spread.

>>29291831
i watched kiara a week ago and she was talking a lot about her low sub count and how she isn't getting invited to collabs, so she is just going to stop asking until they ask her.
and just a few hours ago i checked out some indie streamer who was ranting and raving about her life being crap and her viewcount dropping. i think im attracted to damaged people.

>>29281965
Don't forget Haatons going rogue and attacking Chammers like rabid animals because Cover took down her Horror arc videos and Coco did damage control for Cover saying it was necessary, yet she went on breaks and came back strong as ever, and she got her videos back, so yeah, she is mentally strong enough to not graduate after that

>>29350081
Women don't have the fortitude that men have. I wouldn't get upset about it. Men have to make themselves while women simply are. If she's struggling this much then it's not good.

>>29289004
staged

>>29282083
There was nothing hard about her life, you would know that if you worked in the real world

>>29299457
>
yeah, not really
thats a common myth but a lot of suicidals talk a lot about suicide, passing it as a joke like a coping mechanism because they are too cowards or deranged to face it as a problem

>>29281810
Autists can't be mentally strong anon

>>29417789
Usually i would agree, but Japan really tried to destroy her, and she is still strong after that

>>29281810
>kiara that high
Do kfpiss really?

>>29348699
I can save her...

>>29418076
Which ones are the autists?

>>29418406
shame they didn't go all they way

>>29418467
>Has to steal the insult from Miko antis that call "35p" 35piss
It is just like how your oshi Gura took Nye from Miko and changed it to Nyo, becaise she is creatively bankrupt

>>29301384
Considering the whole wheelchair thing and Animal she really is a tough one

>>29422021
>the whole wheelchair thing
Explain? I don't watch Mumei

>>29416385
do other chuubas never vent at all? i don't hear irys vent THAT much

>>29416282
can i get a timestamp by any chance im on meds too and it would make me feel closer to her if we took the same ones

>>29281810
Mumei deserves to be in a stronger tier. She might be "vulnerable" but as of right now she's doing well compared to before. I'm really happy for her and glad she's in Hololive now.

>>29424314
take more

>>29287046
>lost-her-virginity-to-some-random-asshole-at-age 15
thats normal for the vast majority of people