/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>29341503
Because Nijifag will cry about it being “unfair” again and honestly I don’t want that. Just fucking hand them this win so they can stop complaining for once

Final /news/ roundup for 26-07-2022
>>29267909

Recent clip numbers
>>29251048
>>29251104
>>29248531
>>29248579

>>29341569
>Because Nijifag will cry
They always do, what difference does it really make?

>kaela leading current online ccv
what happen?

*YESTERDAY'S FINAL TALLY *
>57,593: Maimoto (Nijisanji)
>50,654: Subaru (Hololive)
>38,638: Pekora (Hololive)
>32,859: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>29,844: Salome (Nijisanji)
>27,099: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>22,587: Fubuki (Hololive)
>22,167: Mayuzumi (Nijisanji)
>21,860: Laplus (Hololive)
>20,795: Chloe (Hololive)
>19,571: Lize (Nijisanji)
>18,670: Patra (774 Inc.)
>17,936: Mayuzumi (Nijisanji)
>16,710: Shion (Hololive)
>14,491: Suisei (Hololive)
>13,803: Zotto (Nijisanji)
>13,729: Subaru (Hololive)
>13,574: Mio (Hololive)
>13,390: Watame (Hololive)
>12,270: Regis (Holostars)
>12,116: Luca (Nijisanji)
>11,784: Fauna (Hololive)
>11,488: Koyori (Hololive)
>11,251: Kronii (Hololive)
>11,034: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>10,658: Toko (Nijisanji)
>10,612: Ryushen (Nijisanji)
>10,351: Towa (Hololive)

>>29341611
very cute soda photo

>>29341649
Got adopted by a blue woman

>>29341654
>JULY 2022 GOLDS
1) Miko (Hololive) - 43,044 - HoloCure
2) Subaru (Hololive) - 66,433 - Birthday stream
3) AZKi (Hololive) - 74,504 - 3D birthday live
4) Tsukasa (Indie) - 41,447 - Streamer league mahjong
5) Mayuzumi (Nijisanji) - 57,985 - Meschers off-collab
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - Drinking talk w/Laplus
7) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - DQ11 casino w/Noel
8) Salome (Nijisanji) - 37,023 - Unpacking
9) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 164,013 - Koshien 2022 draft
10) Shion (Hololive) - 48,313 - 1 million subs celebration totsumachi
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 61,665 - Clubhouse 51 totsu
12) Shiina (Nijisanji) - 49,387 - Niji Koshien practice
13) Pekora (Hololive) - 70,402 - Uno collab w/Marine, Botan & Polka
14) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 54,165 - Niji Koshien practice
15) Natsume (Nijisanji) - 48,192 - 3D debut
16) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 70,166 - Niji Koshien practice
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 142,833 - 3rd anniversary 3D live
18) Mel (Hololive) - 67,290 - 4th anniversary 3D live
19) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 62,890 - Niji Koshien practice
20) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 80,534 - Niji Koshien practice
21) Towa (Hololive) - 69,696 - New outfit reveal
22) Gwelu (Nijisanji) - 90,186 - 3D debut
23) Luna (Hololive) - 52,218 - New outfit reveal
24) Okayu (Hololive) - 64,102 - 3D live
25) Ren (Nijisanji) - 90,269 - Debut stream
26) Maimoto (Nijisanji) - 57,593 - Niji Koshien practice

>PER COMPANY
13x: Hololive
12x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie

>PER STREAMER
5x: Pekora
2x: Ibrahim, Kuzuha
1x: AZKi, Gwelu, Luna, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Mel, Miko, Natsume, Nijisanji, Okayu, Ren, Salome, Shiina, Shion, Subaru, Towa, Tsukasa

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
131x: Hololive
66x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
3x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
23x: Pekora
16x: Aqua, Salome
14x: Kuzuha
13x: Miko
9x: Subaru
6x: Hal
5x: Kanata, Marine
4x: Gura, Hololive, Mio, Okayu, Suisei, Toya
3x: Chloe, Choco, Flare, Nijisanji, Towa
2x: Ange, Fuwa, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Polka
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, AZKi, Botan, Chronoir, Debi, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Laplus, Luna, Maimoto, Masaru, Mayuzumi, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Noel, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sango, Shiina, Shion, Sora, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

>>29341657
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMAsgtWV-jo

>>29341569
They will never stop complaining.

https://youtu.be/s8lVVgR1MsI
45k doryaaaaa

kaela hit 8k with her usual stream

>>29341674
I hope they do an Atlantis collab when Kaela messages her about the quartz. EN needs a Minecraft storyline and ID helping Gura finally build Atlantis would be kino

>sub 1k waiting for okayu when she's about to start
>only 350 people waiting with an hour left for haato
where are the nips?

imo I don't really mind niji winning this month because I kinda accepted it since July/August is Koshien month. But, what's embarrassing is that they let Hololive get 14 golds or maybe a tie this month if Sana could clinch it. How do you even lose with a 40k floor stream every day?

>>29341569
No and that tally anon is also a nijinigger since he doesn't want to change tally for counting Z's

>>29341829
Peko

>>29341844
tally anon? as in the actual tally? he's a haato iirc

Pre-primetime /news/ update for 27-07-2022 (all times are in JST)
> Crunchyroll Super Expo 2022 reveals more Hololive Guests (no meet and greet however) -
Tokino Sora : https://twitter.com/crunchyrollexpo/status/1551975756007280641
Sakura Miko : https://twitter.com/crunchyrollexpo/status/1551976959004905474
Takane Lui : https://twitter.com/crunchyrollexpo/status/1551978320740302848
Sakamata Chloe : https://twitter.com/crunchyrollexpo/status/1551979409615179779
A-chan : https://twitter.com/crunchyrollexpo/status/1551980752782299136
> Korone has a "very very happy announcement" planned for noon (https://twitter.com/inugamikorone/status/1552069789777989632
> Shylily 3D debut stream announced for 30th July at 2am (https://twitter.com/shylilytwitch/status/1551168088443437062
> Hololive collaboration with Yokai watch game "Yokai Puni Puni" announced (https://twitter.com/yokai_punipuni/status/1552124388367306752
> Holostars:Uproar collaboration with cultural event "Akiba Yabai" as ambassadors for "Gekikara Yabai" (https://twitter.com/holostarstv/status/1552156828582219777
> Aqua contracted COVID (https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1552126640695689216 .
> Mayuzumi holding a 60 person call-in stream on the eve of his graduation ([YouTube] 【60万人記念生前葬】参列客が60人来るまで終わらない凸待ち。【黛灰 / にじさんじ】

>>29341748
60K DORYYAAAAA

Since I'm still curious >>29340895 does anyone still remember why Koshien became a Niji only thing in 2020? Did Powa Pro just decide that Niji should shill it all by themselves or what?

Kaela 8k
>Kaela 8k
Kaela 8k
>Kaela 8k

>>29341906
Niji en magged.

Kaela 8k
it is really surprised me that she surpassed zeta in number view today

nice numbers

>>29341906
austimo hag i kneel

Nijinigger be like
>N-nijisanji IS NOT AN IDOL COMPANY
>meanwhile nijisanji, picrel
https://youtu.be/s8lVVgR1MsI

>>29341906
HAG SUPREMACY!

>>29341962
Hard work pays off

>>29341759
Does HoloID have better median than NijiEN now?

CAM ON KING GET THAT GOLD.

>>29341906
lets stop compare holoen and nijien.. Nijien true rival is holoid

>>29341998
That 3d model.....yikes.

>>29342007
just like koyowhore's approach, stream spamming low quality shit for hours on end isn't hard work.
making actually good streams is though.
but she's a seanig so I don't really care
and she's not a leech so there's that

>>29341962
8k surpasses any ID except Kobo

>>29341891
Nijisanji accelerated to the point where they could just fill every position by themselves, so they did and Konami gave them exclusive permissions for tournaments. This is also why there is never so much as an attempt to make a tournament by anyone else, people saying Cover can't do it because not enough people are ignoring the perms shit that stops them from doing it even if they wanted to

Some recap of /#/ posts predicting Kaela's performance the day of her debut

>>29342058
Keep seething retard

Don't really care about that Z bullshit. The tally only matters for numberfagging in this thread. If Holo actually Z like that then I'll accept it too. Just for the excitement and fun. Don't be like football where they use Var and shit to make the game more "fair", but that shit actually kill all the hype for the game.

Slow lineup for holo tonight, unless if Pekora and Miko meets up in rust or something.

>>29341891
PowerPro only cares about numbers and return of investment. Obviously Nijis don't want to share the pie.

>>29342102
Konami is literally in bed with anycolor, they both use the same office building.

>>29342086
Moona could still get a higher CCV playing solo Minecraft

>>29342059
>just like koyowhore's approach, stream
>spamming low quality shit for hours on end isn't hard work.
But it unironically raised her floor? Also why is EN-only shitter still awake at this hour?

>>29341785
>EN
>Storyline
Pick one

ID 3 kinda interesting
Zeta who was predicted to be successful turned out to not be able to meet expectations
Kaela who was said to be boring and at the beginning of her debut only had 3 views now has a large cult member
Kobo who was used as a shitpost because of his ugly model now always beats almost all EN

>>29342123
Get fucked Himeposter.

>>29342028
Not yet, they're already higher than NijiEN girls though

>>29342123
So Zeta is the Anya of ID gen3 huh?

>>29342028
no only the nijien females

>>29341549
>actual vtuber in the op
bad omen

https://www.instagram.com/duniagames.co.id/live/
2k people watching kobo shill stream at instagram

>>29342229
That's shanks daughter

>>29342165
kill yourself faggot, I'm in no way an ENshart
and everything I said is it
just because she gets 7 or 8k every now and then doesn't mean her floor has been raised, you have no idea what that word even means
she's barely a 3k shitter

rofmao concert looks full for a 12k capacity concert, is this their big yearly event concert replacing concerts like light up tones and raindrops?

I just realize something, Vox might pass Kuzuha to become the most sub male in Nijisanji at this sub gaining pace.

>>29342129
That is actually my opinion too. Just count the Z because it is fun. But I will respect tallyanon's decision because I am not the one that is posting the tally every thread.

>>29342260
Get Help, anon...

>>29342246
>t. enshart

Kaela 8000-8200 view now~

Meanwhile nagisa arcinia (niji id) only have 96 view...

>>29342249
nijifest is probably their biggest concert this year

>>29342207
Nah, she lacks something that really sets her apart, but she really isn't that bad. We all have numberrot thanks to the likes of Kobo and Salome, but she just got 500k in literally 4 months of streaming for an Indonesian branch, that's a very good speed honestly.

>>29342129
This
People only hate the Z because its makes nijisanji win
Views are views faggots

>>29342248
Yeah she is a vtuber these days. After being abandoned by shanks, she became vtuber. Just like watame

>>29342185
>his
kek

>>29341998
I thought Nijisanji had better models but that looks ugly though

>>29342260
good show the world that niji's face is an actual manwhore that panders to the chinks in these trying times

>>29342330
They literally aren't real views though

>>29342285
The growth is really steady...

>>29342357
Hololive has surpassed them in both 2D and 3D.

>>29342234
That page had a max 500 likes on previous posts,
15k on the Kobo post.

Kaela currently has more live viewers than 4 out of 5 VERSEn talents have subscribers.

>>29342330
>People only hate the Z because its makes nijisanji win
Z is the only thing that makes Niji win despite the fact that everyone can see that it's something wrong, should we start to count disconnects as the lowest if we start counting that?

>>29342369
Still counts as views in youtube so your opinion is invalid
Removing the Z will only prove that this thread is a holo circlejerk

>>29341716
do your reps for daisenai, it's her special day tonight

kaela has more viewers than okayu and matsuri too
I thought matuli inclined because of rust bros, what happened?

>>29342357
>>29342058
Are people just trolling?

These look pretty good, especially compared to their base models.

>>29342417
>Removing the Z will only prove that this thread is a holo circlejerk
Are you saying that niisanji cannot win without getting Z's?

>>29342409
I mean if rrats are to be believed sony is pulling the plug on them after the 1 year anniversary and their contract expires. Since theyre planning on buying out every small corpo out there

I blame newfags for this, we hate indog here they are the ultimate leech and their dead branch brings nothing to the table of hololive get the fuck out of here 3rd world dweller

>>29342417
So you're afraid that without Z, nijisaniji will not win

>>29342449
>stray
that answers your fucking question. if is were the old festival, she will get 2k instead

>>29342449
She's playing that retarded cat debuff game

>>29342491
this is a seanigger board anon, we sadly have to tolerate these fags, wait until they start calling you a nijinigger too, actual fucking newfags

>>29341716
>110k in 6 days
oof

Better than
>113k in 20 days
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhvlu2-whlo

>>29342329
she's a vsinger, not a vtuber

>>29342246
She can hold herself up pretty well now. Her asakoyo yesterday can get ~ 10k retention which is probably her floor now. Even during primetime with Pekora overlapping she can still get more than 10k viewers watching her.

>>29342452
>>29342493
Dont care Z will still count
>>29342521

don't think any girls want to overlap Sora tonight. it will be interesting to see how many tourists will show up.

>>29342417
>this thread is a holo circlejerk
How new?
And tribalniggers are the biggest losers in this shithole

>>29342417
it is and what are you gonna do about it
you niggers already shit up the thread 24/7 anyways
seethe and shitpost more nigger

since this race started how much monthly gold did Niji and Holo get?

Isn't it unfair that Anya has the same name as the most popular anime girl right now? So her entire incline is depends on Spy x Family huh?

>>29342554
Then we might as well start counting botted streams

Kaela 9k incoming?

>>29342417
Okay.

>https://strawpoll.com/polls/e7ZJOlv9By3
Here is a poll for the removal of Nijianji. Yes or No?

>>29342584
We do
How new are you holofag

Just do the asterisk like other sites already do

>>29342611
Actual retard.

I'm getting tunnel vision from all of Hololive's achievement this year that I forgot about Nijisanji. What big events did they do this year aside from 3D debuts and gen debuts?

>NijiFantasia (Canceled) January
>Chronoir concert (February)
>Sanbaka Annilive (March)
>Kagami+runts annilive (June)
>Chronoir + Rofmao concert (July)
>Koshien (August)
>Raindrops live (Disbanded, never to be seen again, Akina into Rofmao)
>Nijifest (October)
>NJU (December)

check niji's idol graph

>>29342185
>his
what

>>29342614
I agree with this.

Tallyanon's opinion???

>>29342608
Dont care Tally anon is the only opinion that matters here and he said Z and bots will count
cry harder

>>29342614
I would be fine with that and linking to the actual fucked up graph

>>29342592
HoloID is really smart in targeting these JP afternoon and past midnight timeslots. It lessens overlaps with the JP branch and denies Nijisanji of its asian audience.

>>29341998
4 of their best talents and they could only pull up 75k viewers this afternoon? Kek!

>>29342629
wait raindrop disband?

>>29342648
already said that he wont change anything since it would open a can of worms

>>29342509
>>29342513
sure, debuff
>>29342537
love the fact that you enjoy not giving context when it comes to numbers like this, pray tell faggotchama...what WAS koyowhore playing?
first point, she only spams fotm games all the time, and for ling hours just to get whatever viewers are being bled from other streams.
other point, in EVERY SINGLE STREAM where she starts before a big stream, she bleeds so many viewers for the likes of subaru, miko and pekora among others, an actual waiting room chuuba.
inflated numbers for the leech like you'd expect, if I had to guess who her oshi is it's probably the other pink leeching whore

>>29342684
what would they even do without warabeda lol

>>29342684
Anon Warabeda is fucking gone, what do you want them to do?

>>29342633

>>29342575
Holo got all of them in the "final tally" era, except last month which ended in a tie.

>>29342684
warabeda graduated, are they really disbanding tho ?

wtf why nijis getting pissed again, isn't today guaranteed nijis gold. man there's no winning against this retardation huh

>>29342592
Maybe, but not now

>>29342658
It's unanimous. Get the fuck out.

>>29342648
He won't because nijiniggers will complain like they all the time

>>29342745
Lol no
Tally anon is the only one thats relevant and not retards like you

>>29342713
Didn't Hololive win the tie-breaker last month?

>>29342701
>first point, she only spams fotm games all the time, and for ling hours just to get whatever viewers are being bled from other streams.
Hard work, smarts AND looks, is Koyori the perfect chuuba?

Since many of the EN shitters are asleep while a few are still awake, I can say something "bad" about EN without being dogpiled:
Yes hardwork actually mean something, even in EN. The nijiEN girls got what they have today by streaming regularly. Also if you stream regularly some people will just watch you out of habit no matter how debuff the content is and they will be your floor. I hope Cover find 2views that are willing to work hard for EN3 instead of nepotism hire like council.

>>29342706
well they still has 5 livers..not like warabeda is big like akina, so nothing lose..and they can recruit one liver

>>29342707
replace the whore with salome EASY

>>29342709
Now thats a clean graph

>>29342742
From the looks of it seems like theres some rrats brewing around millie, nina and one of the new talents in the rrats nest

>>29342745
Nijisanji is finally gone.

>>29342778
The answer to the question "who the the most golds in June" is "neither, each got 15".
That's the only thing being measured

>>29342774
doesn't matter he's replaceable, plus he has shit taste

>>29342629
The physical concerts probably makes the most amount of money for anycolor since they made it so that the venues could hold 10k+ people despite covid lol. Likewise, Hololive does anniversary 3D lives 2-3 times a month with instant injection of money from merch could compete with anycolor's concerts or events.

>>29342691
>>29342753
Good idea.

Bets on Regis bedtime stories ASMR?
https://twitter.com/regisaltare/status/1552223600702267392

>>29342451
No I'm not trolling they do have good tracking I'll give them that but the model in it itself is not good looking. Nijifans always talk about how Nijisanji has better 3D than anyone else in the industry and I'm not talking about Nijiniggers from here, in general Nijifans brag about having better 3Ds but then their hyped events have models which are worse than Holos regular 3D birthday/anniversary concert.

>>29342787
>hard work
again, stream spamming low quality and fotm garbage isn't hard work, it's literally the easiest thing a JP can do
>smart
kek
>looks
pink=disgusting whore
>perfect chuuba
delusion

>>29342790
>Yes hardwork actually mean something, even in EN
lol lmao even
nijien's constant streaming already disproves that spamming streams wont do shit if youre boring or untalented

>>29342797
That would be idol way to go.

>>29342778
Nah, a tie is a tie, 15-15 to avoid retardation

>>29342848
It's not. The JPs already fucking moved over to discounting Zs. Tally anon is retarded

>>29342701
Asakoyo is fucking boring bruh. Any viewer who stayed is probably her floor.

Kobo just said on the interview she was the one who named her character, with the approval of her manager.
Also it seems ID and JP share the same game perms.

>>29342830
>doesn't matter he's replaceable
lol many have tried but everyone will still follow tally anon because he is impartial and fare unlike the other tards here

>>29342822
civil war ? welp no wonder they went straight into defense mode

>>29342787
if koyori was in nijisanji, she's be a 3view shitter
her personality means jackshit

>>29342629
NijiFantasia was rescheduled to be part of nijifes

https://fes.nijisanji.jp/stage/

>>29342896
Huh, weird that ID and JP share the same game perms yet EN don't. tf is with that? Also self-naming is interesting.

>>29342837
Crunchroll, animeexpo or c100 makes money for Cover too

>>29342874
go back to jp then retard we dont want you and your tards here always talking shit about niji

>>29342865
/b/omu, Selen or Elira won't get what they have today if their stream pattern is like the council. Hell even Finana can get to 4views territory if she didn't sperg on twitter.

>>29342709
what numbers holo 30 minute free concert usually get?? sorry i only watch vtuber for gaming stream

https://twitter.com/usadapekora/status/1552122306943926272?s=21&t=w1pqXYmkhDVsS5u3-o8fpA
Wait announcement? What could it be at this point?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVsacQZTmiI
Luvoratory hit 1 million views.

Another one for Mel.

>>29342907
same can be said with miko pekora and every other talent
hololive is the only reason they became relevant

>>29342859
Things changed in the past year. One year ago they pulled that "AR Light Up Tones" and it was visually very good in an era where not a few months before Roberu 3D debut to *THISP* monstrosity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAp98iczQao

But the competition kept moving forward and Nijisanji couldn't really give every 3D the same polish (unless the livers pay the "good 3D fee", which not all of them can afford) so there is that

>>29342964
It was the yokai collab anon.

stop paying attention to that fucking faggot, if you see the words koyofags or koyowhore, you should know that that faggot has straight up admitted to hating every holo and has a routine prepared for everyone
he's an attention whore

>>29342936
Seethe Retard
this thread is not your fucking hugbox
go back to your troon discord

>>29342851
Over 5k. that's basically what his fanbase is looking forward to

>>29342947
30-40k
28k lowest, 42k most.

I think this is the highest free part from all groups so far.

>>29342941
their numbers today are only a little different from their numbers months ago
theyll never significantly incline since they are too boring or are too reliant on using the twitch meta in youtube

Newfag-tourists demanding changes now. Good shit, people didn't gatekeep enough.

>>29342977
not really no, all of them were fairly popular before debuting in hololive meant an easy 100k debut stream faggot

>>29343012
So definitely botted then

>>29342851
it's shit, ppl don't like story reading ASMR. 5K as best.

>>29342861
>>29342907
>literally the easiest thing a JP can do
WOW! Hard work, smart work AND impeccable looks?
Is there such a thing as the perfect chuuba? Because if there is, Koyori looks like it!

>>29342896
Does the name Kobo have meanings in Indonesia?

>>29342987
Ah yeah sorry I am retarded

>>29342260
Subs go up 4-5k a day without fail and views go down. Really makes you think.

>>29343002
Lol lmao even
cry all you want retard but tally anon will always be the final authority and this thread and theres nothing you or your retarded group can do about it

>>29342964
The fabled graduation

Holy crap, the koyo schizos and koyo defenders should just kiss at this point.

>>29343019
Fuck off, this is literally how the tally on the JP sites do things now, stop trying to pretend you aren't actively sabotaging the results in your favor with garbage results

>>29343025
>popular
lol they were the equivalent of 3view shitters and without hololive the best numbers that they can get if they wanted to become a vtuber would be verse tier

>>29342129
>>29342281
>>29342330
Zs aren't fun retard. also stop samefagging.

>>29343042
kobo itself doesn't have any meaning however if you combined them kobokan aer literally means finger bowl in indonesia , it's a pun name

>>29341785
We probably get one kino collab stream out of it then nothing and maybe some streams where they play the ID mini game or join the event they are planning. But doubtful about arc since they are not really consistent with Minecraft, they haven't even build the EN portal to ID yet.

>>29343083
how about they let people discuss numbers without throwing a shit fit every time she gets even fucking mentioned

>>29343054
The Gura experience

>>29342982
cover as idol entertainment company quite clever...
they put their best 3d tech only for paid concert

>>29343093
holy fucking newfag

>>29343088
Go to the jp sites then we dont want your newfag kind around here

>>29340480
So, anyone got that report link yet?

>>29343106
kek i see make sense

It doesn't matter how much you holokeks hate nijisanji, you'll be forced to admit they win whenever they Z. Nothing can change the facts, Gold is Gold

Can we have make a thread version of this already?

>>29342923
Wait, that's retarded. Then, don't they have 60+ JP livers? Shouldn't they give the stage to them, at least perform a lil bit? I checked the site link, and do correct me on this, they let people in for free to visit the booths but on certain times, they need to pay for tickets to watch 2 hour segments like chronoir, mito/sara stage, sanbaka etc?

>>29342658
>b-but tally king said...
Neck yourself.

>>29342982
Yes this is the event they keep spamming to make their point. I remember getting bunch of links to this when I said Hololive has good 3D model some even better than Nijisanji

>>29343083
did Koyori do something?
why the fuck is the koyo schizo so active today?

>>29343129
>he actually thinks pre holo pekora will be able to bring the same numbers as pekora
lol lmao even

>>29342592
Kobo is starting so she may lose some viewers

>>29342608
>pollposting
go back to hlgg faggot

>>29343011
I am his fanbase, 3k minimum 5k tops

>>29343161
>you'll be forced to admit they win whenever they bot.
Ftfy

>>29343129
that connor guy is right even i hate how he phrasing it
you just being ignorant one

>>29343165
lol dont matter tally anon is the final word
go make your own thread if you hate it so much
oh wait you cant since you guys are just retards who just dogpile on niji for no apparent reason

>>29343172
Some person mentioned hard work, and it's the triggerword for Koyoschizo or something.

>>29343193
Numbers are numbers. It doesn't matter what you think, gold is gold, and nijisanji always wins the real tally

>>29343175
I'm saying that pekora, and many others were in hololive pre the boom and were actually inclining through PROPER hard work faggot
>>29343199
kys ESL indog

>>29343117
Not really, Gura subs go up faster when she actually streams.

Do people actually watch Kaela or do they turn on her stream and treat it like Lo Fi Hip Hop Sounds the vtuber? Soothing white noise for autistic people?

>>29343208
Well you and your kind are the reason.

>>29343161
Stop shitposting, retard.

>>29343221
>nnd pekora
>inclining
you are retarded

>>29343199
>connor
No, look at wave 6 and tempus. What big corpos do is give initial exposure, after that if you are not talented you get dunked on

>>29343252
>nnd pekora
actually read the post you fucking mong

>>29343162
You should go back.

>>29343244
No, the reason is because you coping holobronies can't accept the obvious when it's pointed out to you. Nijisanji is on top and Hololive is dying, face it your days are over

>>29343221
>pretending know all talent pre-hololive
you can't even navigate nico nico douga

>>29343244
lol dont care
holofags are just mad they lost

>>29343018
A quick look at /b/omu's record (peaks only)
>this month other than 2 of the superchat stream which has 1k ccv, all other are around 2 to 4k peaks
>Jan 2022 her stream was around 1 to 3k peaks except for the new outfits
>Nov 2022 she had a stream within 3view territory (Akibastrip), while most of her stream are 1k+ view
I didn't watch her and she probably is boring, but regular streaming helps in terms of ccv, scientifically.

>>29343138
you got baited anon... it's shitposting hours now

>>29343287
no.

>>29343161
A dirty gold that is. Well you are nijinigger..

>>29343288
Stop falseflagging, tourist.

Stop replying to the bait guy.

>>29343284
read the original thread chain retarded nijifag we were talking about pre hololive not pre boom

>>29343106
>kobo
It means "hope" in Japanese, her name and surname are both in Jap, hopes this help you and the anon above.

Are you guys not tired of doing this? You guys are red in the face shitposting on cooldown. Also can someone please post some numbers.

HoloID hasn't opened auditions despite ID3's streak of bringing in new viewers. Sigh...

>>29343306
>Peaks
>With NijiZhangji, infested with Raided false peaks
lol
lmao

>>29343306
>Nov 2022
I mean Nov 2021.

>>29343331
Which ones?

>>29343306
>but regular streaming helps in terms of ccv
it "helps" but not significantly since the moment you get injured/go on a break youll be back to doing shitter numbers unlike if your or talented or not boring in which case having a long break or injury wont affect your numbers

>>29343358
isn't kibou is the hope for jp, or there's something word I don't know

>>29343252
>>29343295
I swear I share the fucking thread with actual children
people keep saying that koyowhore is a "hard worker" by spamming shit fotm streams for long hours, which is not hard work in the slightest, and if she was in nijisanji she'd be a 3view shitter because when your brand is strong personality doesn't matter
then I said that pekora among other holos PRE THE FUCKING HOLOLIVE BOOM, NOT PRE HOLOLIVE YOU RETARDS were propelry inclining through ACTUAL hard work because unlike koyowhore, they didn't debut with a silver spoon in their mouths

I did say yesterday that Mayuzumi talked with Lulu and Kasumi on how they love Nijisanji even more now after graduating. Now with translated clip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdbShDeiNik

>>29343390
they open audition, my friend failed in march and must wait 3 month to re apply

>>29343390
>he lacks the critical info
do your reps
theyre already doing it through reines connections

>>29343445
didn't read, kys

>>29342790
streaming and building a audience who supports is more important than the useless greyfag poor children counter that is CCV worshipping that this shithole pretends matters. Anyone not medal shitposting ITT is mentally retarded.

>>29343381
Hal not doing too bad today.

>>29343451
>Oboretai
Fuck you homobeggar.

>>29343445
>Pekora inclined through hard work
lol no pekora only inclined because she is in hololive and with the box
pekora without hololive will be a 3view shitter

>>29343417
Thank you for understanding what I am trying to say. Regular streaming helps to retain viewers. Maybe you think councils are interesting to watch. If that is the case, then being 4views is literally their own problem because by streaming regularly they can become 5views easily.

>>29343239
Yes

>>29342982
>>29343170
I think Cover has gotten on par or greater with AR with Laplus 3d debut.
https://youtu.be/V0Zk55CpFEM?t=911

You can see that they can compute depth like when the waiter is serving a plate over Laplus' model.

>>29343453
pretty sure holoid is not open audition yet..i ooen their website and you cant do it

>>29343307
Man, fuck Numberniggers. I just want my financial reports, not worthless baits.

>>29343427
Kobou is "light" in Jap (光芒), sorry about that.

>>29343453
Male or female? Did they get any response or just no reply to audition?

>>29343445
>PRE THE FUCKING HOLOLIVE BOOM
most of them is collab beggar, not only to nijisanji

>>29343390
auditions have been open for some time and its actually accepting other sea country applications
im in the 2nd stage

What happened to VshojoJP? Did they get mogged by the Homos?

>>29343467
Anyone who says CCV is a bad metric is actually retarded. Stop being obstinate, there have been a thousand timeloops of CCV vs VoDs and you've lost every single one, CCV is just objectively the only important metric

the best compromise is to put an asterisk next to wins with Zs, regardless of company or indie. why is that so controversial?

>>29343465
>>29343494
cope, seethe and dilate newfag koyoshitters
no matter how hard you try to will something into existence, it will forever be a fantasy

>>29343491
It's funny since I don't think the guy is even trying to hide behind being a homobeggar anymore. The entire channel is now practically filled with Niji.

>>29343445
how can one person be so mad and so wrong
when will you admit to being a nijifag btw, i'm not forgetting about you saying you hate everyone in hololive except for marine

kobo dg interview
>i want to explore new market
>reseaching new trends from id content creator and senpai
>i want to grow my viewer and keep my old fans

>>29343467
Ame you should stop having that mentality. The reason you need ghetto studio is because your viewcounts doesn't justify a huge investment in proper studio. Greyfags help to spread the words. Also stop killing teammates they getting less and less these days.

>>29343569
Fuck off Holobegger. Nijisanji earned those Z's you have no right to undermine their victories

>>29343451
Shut up Oboretai.
But also, thanks for the clips.

You're like Otakmori, where you make a lot of translations that people probably want to hear about, but no one wants to touch for obvious reasons.

>>29343544
female, 2 view chuba with 4 digit sub
she got respond, and she can re apply after 3 month

>>29343496
I mean what you were saying is common sense since its what 2view and 3views usually do spam their streams

>>29343520
wdym? Everything in Laplus's 3D debut is in 3D. The waiter is 3D, the food is 3D, the river and grass is rendered in 3D. That's how far Cover's tech has improved. Everything looked realistic. How did they even render a realistic hotel room, park and bath house like that?

>>29343569
Because tally anon still won't do it.

>>29343585
>Trying to destroy Hololive by forcing male collabs
>Ends up being a Nijinigger
How predictable. Though the screeching over how "muh idolculture is toxic!" was a pretty big tipoff

>>29343557
if it's not bait, congrats to you anon. hope you bring something new on the table. and for you mental sake stay way from this place

>>29343557
Omedetou. Hope you debut together with the Malaysian vampire from myholoTV.

>>29343585
Speaking of him, he got another meltdown.
https://www.reddit.com/user/Oboretai
His comment was deleted too.

>>29343569
It's like "let's put Barry Bonds in the Hall of Fame but we'll put a little mark next to his name." It's irrelevant, he's still in, that mark doesn't mean shit.

Kaela 8.5k

>>29343575
that i can agree on koyo and pekora are both shitters though who only became popular through holo

>>29343465
>>29343494
>>29343552
>>29343602
kys samefagging koyocunt

>>29343482
Well atleast it's a sponsored stream, so he prob made some bank to it. Apex really hurt him hard huh.

>6 guests, one of which is Mio
Will she get both Pekora and Suisei as guests for her live?

>>29343562
Miguel el gato (forma de angel) hasn't streamed for almost a week and I won't even check kekson because I'm pretty sure all Tempus streams so far besides Axel playing Cavalry during real overlap hell have mogged her

>>29343390
Looks like ID3 is the last

>>29343632
>I mean what you were saying is common sense
Oh, council faggots will say otherwise.

>>29343451
Nice try, Nijifag. Lulu escaped that black company just like Gibara.

>>29343706
No.

>>29343646
so much for being impartial and fair. they still get the gold but people will have context why they won that day

>>29343706
Suisei yes, Pekora no fucking way

>>29343679
INDOCHAD STATUS?

>>29343628
Did they get any useful feedback for things to improve on or why she didn't advance? Feels like ID3 was pretty stacked and ID4 might be even harder to get into. Feels like if Anya or maybe even Risu applied today they would not get in.

>>29343746
Bet your balls anon.

>>29343706
I think suisei and haachama have a big chance of being revealed

>>29343663
>>29343672
thanks
though to be honest im surprised i cleared the 1st round since i only do computer build/repair vids

>>29343552
i remember that 2 gen collab choco actually said she is collab beggar in that era

>>29343451
Damn, how bad their management must have been that their livers not just keep loving the group, but apparently love the group even more after leaving?

Guys
You are letting THREE timeloop happen at the same time
How the fuck did this happened?

>>29343795
Newfags these days didn't realise hololive need to beg for collabs, sometimes from nijisanji, to survive. There are a lot of collabs with niji down to gen 2, then sankisei decided to build the box and the rest is history.

>>29343715
Sure.

>market absolutely blows up after grinding it out for 2 Gens of low numbers
>Pack it up guys, we've done as much as we can here.
It is still funny Niji ID bailed *right* before this kicked off, but it wouldn't have helped them one way or the other.

>>29343795
Pre-ASMR cull Choco was the biggest Gen 2. Graphs show this.

>>29343845
Which 3 huh? I am only seeing 2 and I will let the timeloop happen until councilniggers admit that their oshis are lazy.

>>29343673
>Thing is, when it is overmoderated or moderated in a certain way, like:

>A harmless joke/meme/art about Nijisanji AND Holopro gets deleted, yet the posts attacking those jokes/memes/arts are not, I think it convinced the attackers that this subreddit has zero-tolerance to anything Nijisanji related, and encourage them to attack even more.

>No Hololive member has encouraged you to attack talents and fans of other companies, many has openly told you NEVER to do it because all it did was give Hololive fans a bad name.

>It does not matter if some Niji talent or fan said something mean that one time, if your solution to them is to be a bigger asshole back in return. I hope you know it means at the end of the day, YOU are the bigger asshole.

JWU and the thread is already on Chernobyl levels of meltdown kek

>>29343715
yep they are ID's last gen that will debut in 2022

>>29343888
well, one of them is the hlg larper just throwing a fit again

>>29343904
Which one?

>>29343863
Mel was also once the rising star in gen 1

>>29343753
yeah ID 3 is really stacked. Kaela CV alone is so fucking bright to be just a vtuber. IDK about Anya but for Risu I think she will still get in as Songstress
>>29343766
tech chuuba is something new in this field, but seriously though stay away from this place

>>29343845
>any discussion about hololive numbers is a timeloop
the only numbers that matter are hololive numbers
why the fuck would I care about comparing holos to shitters like niji? I care about holos among holos

>>29343817
they dont care about their livers..the fact they said that even if our livers graduate it wont affect company is already a good proof..

>>29343845
Debut tourist newfags can't help themselves.

>>29343888
all en branches are lazy but in different ways
holoen wont stream
nijien wont change any of their content
en streamers are just lazy

>>29343900
Yeah, fuck that rotten cunt, he can burn with the rest of the nijibeggers

>>29343390
flooding the market isn't the best idea anon, you know the story lah

>>29343557
>accepting other SEA countries
Why

AHHHHHHHH WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING?
Here, have a sexy friend to calm down

What the fuck is going on? Is there drama going on outside that hasn't reached us yet?

>>29343848
yes and no, they collabed but mainly because old Nijis and Holos are buttbuddies from NND and other places, for example Ayame used to collab a lot with Toko

Don't let the seething distract you from the fact that the top Nijis could only get 74k on a concert

>>29343922
>but seriously though stay away from this place
I will if I ever actually become part of the next gen i will but i might drop in from time to time since even with all the shitposting here some people do have some valid opinions and tips for inclining

>>29343941
No, to get numbers you must flood the market. Debut and graduation are the biggest buff in vtuber scene. So to make big numbers a company should spam debuts and graduations as much as possible.

>>29343922
Seems like they have deprioritized singing heavily after Gen 1. Ollie, Anya, and Kaela cannot sing at all. Reine is mediocre if very productive (due to being able to afford whatever she wants), and Kobo/Zeta can carry a tune but they aren't gonna blow anyone away and that isn't their primary focus. Maybe ID4 will have another legit singer?

>ASMR
>Grimm's Fairy tales
>Dark as fuck
Is he trying to unshackle his limiter?

Jesus

>>29343991
that can't be right i thought we were the most influential thread

>>29343900
kek it's a holopro sub, why would they want to include nijisanji? You don't see people posting about nazuna kson memes

good god Pippa is inclining

>>29343673
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/w1o6zg/comment/iglhf4d/
Slimy fucker

>>29344009
Just remember: stream regularly and your number will incline despite what EN shitters tell you.

>>29343978
honestly dont know, maybe id4 will be a multicultural male wave?

>>29344030
Mog by a hagsmith nijisanji is dying..

>>29343565
A tale of a thousand copes from the victims of ccv numberot.

>>29343991
the kaela praising attracted like 3 different schizos who started their usual routines unprompted

>>29343845
Iluna didn't do as well as expected...

>>29344018
I remember Kiara trying this. Not as ASMR. In German. Prerecorded. It was grim indeed, for her.

>>29344046
Romanian TVee collab soon.

>>29343980
I don't think her boobs are that big?

>>29343980
https://files.catbox.moe/fn0trh.mp4
listen to hag
I miss holofes3. back when things were simpler.

>>29344030
8k is pretty good for Metroid Bread but that's a stupid post-debut game to play.

>>29344084
>SEAmales
Yikes. Just give me chinks instead.

>>29343900
he's the reason the place became like that
his not so subtle "stealth" marketing irked the locals

>>29343856
What are they even going to do ? They were their first and have like 19 members already, most of their member get beaten by fucking Iofi of all people

>>29344086
There has never been a single substantiated argument for why CCV isn't the objectively superior metric in all conceivable ways. No other metric has any merits comparatively, and that's a fact you cannot dispute

>>29344061
>Streaming regularly can help but it alone isn't sufficient
If you really think grinding alone will do it you're dumb as a sack of rocks. Consistency is more important, as is being SMART about how you apply your work.

>>29344004
um because half of them are in nico live? while the yt is only the preview? https://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv337086664

>>29344030
>the strongest one new wave with the debut buff is on the same level as fucking holid now
Still feels like a fucking fever dream how homostars are more successful than wave 6

>>29344150
Blame them.
Also Pomu's fan discord goes poof due to internal conflict.

>>29343900
>if your solution to them is to be a bigger asshole back in return. I hope you know it means at the end of the day, YOU are the bigger asshole.
I for one would like to state it is the goal of every member of the JunsGang not only to be an asshole but to he a hard working one in order to become the BIGGEST asshole group of the whole fandom, generating enough seethe to power a small city

>SWEEP THE LEG!
>NO MERCY!

>>29344056
Dox shit?

>there actually people hating on holoX
Really?

just checked the last thread.
do nijikeks really afraid to fucking starsEN of all things? The fact they already got a bunch of schizo post is funny.
Trying to compare tempus with luxiem as some sort ''LOOK TEMPUS FLOP". That's some genuine desperation there.
Do ILUNA didn't do as well as they expected, they had to bring luxiem to own the homoEN?

https://youtu.be/ywvR52V7HiI?t=1792

>>29344163(me)
Holy what a mess, I meant to say long hours alone won't help, and that yes consistency > mindless grinding

>>29344009
I cant tell if you serious or not saying this in this place..but seriously stay away from this place if you get accepted

>>29344203
rrats nest already has obos dox and address

>>29344162
a thousand and one copes

>>29344156
Heard some rrat that the entire NijiID (except 5 members) is nepotism hire from the same circle and their fans literally gatekeeps newfag, which is why their viewership is so fucking low.

>>29344199
>Fancord go poof
Got proof?

>>29344199
The Niji discords are cancerous. All discords probably are, but at least the Holo ones don't usually spill over into the actual vtubers business. They're all mini-incubators for bored kids to try out Baby's First Political Activism.

>>29344239
But why November?

>>29344229
>consistency > mindless grinding
That is always my point.

>>29344199
>>29344272
>Pomu
thats was one of her smaller discord circlejerks andd not the main fan one

Pekora and Miko streaming Rust over Sora's celebration

>>29344220
you have no idea the amount of schizos laplus, chloe and koyori have attracted in this board, besides the obvious schizos from before that just hate jp because they get more resources than the other branches

>>29344199
why do they have to scheme so much just clip normally

>>29344337
>they get more resources than the other branches
They are shilling the most for Cover right now so it is only fair. They are the shill gen.

>>29344306
oh thought you meant obos doxx
he must be talking about the collab ban, the male ones might have a longer ban due to being an experimental and pioneering wave. maybe cover will greenlight it after en3 debuts in order to have a fallback?
all speculation btw

>>29344009
>some people do have some valid opinions and tips for inclining
Here is the best tip you will EVER get from this thread
>pic related

>>29344241
I heard that rrat one a nepotism hire from the same circle down to the management, and yeah their fans is literally the walking holier than thou persona which gate keep a lot of people

No one here has any fucking idea of how to incline. None of you are successful streamers, stop backseating your oshis like you're talking about Elden Ring or some shit

>>29344334 (Me)
Pekora just changed the start hour, maybe theybsre streaming 1h, ending the stream and streaming again after it

>>29344381
nta but # has some (very little) good advice from time to time especially for clippers like me

>>29344398
We have stats that backed up our claims though ENshart.

PekoMiko now starting at the same time

>>29344199
not enough nude for everyone?

HOLY SHIT PEKOMIKO RUST. IT'S HAPPENING.

Looks like Tempus is already declining hard. I wonder what their numbers in a month will look like. 3views?

>>29344431
You have a bunch of graphs which show you have no goddamn clue how the algorithm works, are bad at math, and worse terrible at analyzing trends.

>>29344431
Shitposter, calling someone an enshart doesn't make your opinion worth more than the pagpag it's made out of.

>>29344447
>>29344467
My rrats can't be deader.

>>29344469
homoshitters will always go back to being 3views in time
im more surprised of Iluna flopping this hard and with wave 7 sol coming up its going to be a fucking bloodbath

>>29344469
They're literally STILL above Iluna dude

I notice that baits and shitposts start to pile up right around this time, every single day.
This is getting tiresome.

>>29344469
brotubers dont sell
screencap and grudgepost me on this 3 months from now

Aim Higher trending no.1 in japan

>>29344520
Maybe Luna is the Sol reject and they are experimenting something this time? No copium btw because I don't watch niji.

Pekomiko RUST soon. KINO!

>>29344527
>Euroshitters are up and about
>Sea back home from school/work
I wonder why.

>>29344527
yeah they usually die down after tally gets posted and goes back up once eu primtime starts
we have 2 waves of shitposters and as much as i hate to admit it burger hours have become the more tolerable hours

Kusogakis Apex mobile sponsored stream tomorrow
https://youtu.be/dGZmdinCEZ0
https://youtu.be/as64HN0bnus

>>29344559
They just pushed them out in response to HomoEN's announcement which would explain why it' was so rushed

>>29344469
Men are just more interested in watching cute girls in the long run.

>>29344570
EOPs need not apply.

>>29344559
Nah they always go strong with the first wave and use rejects in the second one see lazulight and luxiem

>>29344469
Anon, ojisan outranked every single Wave 6 but Ren, by some 500 CCV

>>29344570
>>29344589
Eurotrash wont admit that theyre part of the problem though and you can tell since the euro shitposting coincides with the why wont holo invest in our dead market
EU is on the same level as SEA at this point

>>29226655
>>29227046
she said you should do something more productive than watching her streams.

>>29344564
They won’t interact
This time there’s no one else to stand between and connect them

>>29344607
>Wave 7 will debut in response to EN 3
How fucked are wave 7 if thats what theyre planning?

>>29344469
imo they already doing better so far, at least for stars standard.
if they can get consistent 1k-3k CCV, they are already successful in Cover's eyes.
the fact they can get 3k-4k view during overlap with holoen girls is pretty amazing.
ILUNA are the one declining so hard (beside Ren), Tempus is pretty stable & consistent so far.

>>29344689
EU was worse though
That post about venue being sold out is bad came out at EU hours

the timezone in this thread is funny, you can tell the time from the quality of the ongoing post

>>29344616
Calling someone an EOP doesn't make your shitty opinions suddenly valuable, schizochama, especially when it's wrong.

>>29344744
also those retarded interns from a month ago posts on eu hours

>>29344732
Just deploy Gura again

>>29344689
>full of frogs and spics, groups that any old hand at the internet know are cancer incarnate

>haachama can't even break 2k
graduation imminent

Moona Minecraft in 8 minutes
https://youtu.be/g9t5VqfklLI

Just for the record, here is where StarsEN vs. NijiEN is right now

>8,482: Ren Zotto (Nijisanji EN)
>8,140: Noir Vesper (Holostars EN)
>7,921: Luca Kaneshiro (Nijisanji EN)
>7,272: Noir Vesper (Holostars EN)
>7,100: Maria Marionette (Nijisanji EN)
>6,923: Magni Dezmond (Holostars EN)
>6,519: Regis Altare (Holostars EN)
>6,135: Aia Amare (Nijisanji EN)
>5,776: Nina Kosaka (Nijisanji EN)
>5,620: Aster Arcadia (Nijisanji EN)
>5,451: Scarle Yonaguni (Nijisanji EN)
>5,270: Alban Knox (Nijisanji EN)
>5,022: Kyo Kaneko (Nijisanji EN)
>4,986: Shu Yamino (Nijisanji EN)
>4,933: Selen Tatsuki (Nijisanji EN)
>4,168: Petra Gurin (Nijisanji EN)
>4,019: Axel Syrios (Holostars EN)
>3,387: Yugo Asuma (Nijisanji EN)
>2,382: Pomu Rainpuff (Nijisanji EN)
>1,965: Elira Pendora (Nijisanji EN)
>1,253: Finana Ryugu (Nijisanji EN)

StarsEN isn't just outranking iLuna, they're outranking the whole NijiEN ensemble right now

>>29344749
As a Merichad, I'm often fascinated by how much worse the IQ of the thread gets around these hours and how you can find some of the most retarded out of date rrats (that even Japanese, Americans and Europeans have long since dismissed) floating about.

>>29344097
>Kiara trying this. Not as ASMR
I want you to now imagine Kiara doing ASMR with her voice

>>29344820
Blind anonchama??

>>29344820
Nijiliarchama...

>>29344820
HAACHAMA 10k GETTO!!!!!!

>>29344820
>graduation imminent
from college since she dropped and failed almost all her classes

>>29344732
Why is NijiEN like this? Just fucking debut them
Do they exist solely to react to Hololive?

>>29344871
Nah, this is gen1schizo

>>29344836
Uncle Nowa is going to become too powerful

>>29344836
Axel.....what happened?