/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

*YESTERDAY'S FINAL TALLY *
>57,593: Maimoto (Nijisanji)
>50,654: Subaru (Hololive)
>38,638: Pekora (Hololive)
>32,859: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>29,844: Salome (Nijisanji)
>27,099: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>22,587: Fubuki (Hololive)
>22,167: Mayuzumi (Nijisanji)
>21,860: Laplus (Hololive)
>20,795: Chloe (Hololive)
>19,571: Lize (Nijisanji)
>18,670: Patra (774 Inc.)
>17,936: Mayuzumi (Nijisanji)
>16,710: Shion (Hololive)
>14,491: Suisei (Hololive)
>13,803: Zotto (Nijisanji)
>13,729: Subaru (Hololive)
>13,574: Mio (Hololive)
>13,390: Watame (Hololive)
>12,270: Regis (Holostars)
>12,116: Luca (Nijisanji)
>11,784: Fauna (Hololive)
>11,488: Koyori (Hololive)
>11,251: Kronii (Hololive)
>11,034: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>10,658: Toko (Nijisanji)
>10,612: Ryushen (Nijisanji)
>10,351: Towa (Hololive)

>>29333040
JULY 2022 GOLDS
1) Miko (Hololive) - 43,044 - HoloCure
2) Subaru (Hololive) - 66,433 - Birthday stream
3) AZKi (Hololive) - 74,504 - 3D birthday live
4) Tsukasa (Indie) - 41,447 - Streamer league mahjong
5) Mayuzumi (Nijisanji) - 57,985 - Meschers off-collab
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - Drinking talk w/Laplus
7) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - DQ11 casino w/Noel
8) Salome (Nijisanji) - 37,023 - Unpacking
9) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 164,013 - Koshien 2022 draft
10) Shion (Hololive) - 48,313 - 1 million subs celebration totsumachi
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 61,665 - Clubhouse 51 totsu
12) Shiina (Nijisanji) - 49,387 - Niji Koshien practice
13) Pekora (Hololive) - 70,402 - Uno collab w/Marine, Botan & Polka
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 52,050 - Pekorone Mario Race
15) Natsume (Nijisanji) - 48,192 - 3D debut
16) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 70,166 - Niji Koshien practice
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 142,833 - 3rd anniversary 3D live
18) Mel (Hololive) - 67,290 - 4th anniversary 3D live
19) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 62,890 - Niji Koshien practice
20) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 80,534 - Niji Koshien practice
21) Towa (Hololive) - 69,696 - New outfit reveal
22) Gwelu (Nijisanji) - 90,186 - 3D debut
23) Luna (Hololive) - 52,218 - New outfit reveal
24) Okayu (Hololive) - 64,102 - 3D live
25) Ren (Nijisanji) - 90,269 - Debut stream
26) Maimoto (Nijisanji) - 57,593 - Niji Koshien practice

>PER COMPANY
14x: Hololive
11x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie

>PER STREAMER
6x: Pekora
2x: Kuzuha
1x: AZKi, Gwelu, Luna, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Mel, Miko, Natsume, Nijisanji, Okayu, Ren, Salome, Shiina, Shion, Subaru, Towa, Tsukasa, Ibrahim

>>29333151
>JULY 2022 GOLDS
1) Miko (Hololive) - 43,044 - HoloCure
2) Subaru (Hololive) - 66,433 - Birthday stream
3) AZKi (Hololive) - 74,504 - 3D birthday live
4) Tsukasa (Indie) - 41,447 - Streamer league mahjong
5) Mayuzumi (Nijisanji) - 57,985 - Meschers off-collab
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - Drinking talk w/Laplus
7) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - DQ11 casino w/Noel
8) Salome (Nijisanji) - 37,023 - Unpacking
9) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 164,013 - Koshien 2022 draft
10) Shion (Hololive) - 48,313 - 1 million subs celebration totsumachi
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 61,665 - Clubhouse 51 totsu
12) Shiina (Nijisanji) - 49,387 - Niji Koshien practice
13) Pekora (Hololive) - 70,402 - Uno collab w/Marine, Botan & Polka
14) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 54,165 - Niji Koshien practice
15) Natsume (Nijisanji) - 48,192 - 3D debut
16) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 70,166 - Niji Koshien practice
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 142,833 - 3rd anniversary 3D live
18) Mel (Hololive) - 67,290 - 4th anniversary 3D live
19) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 62,890 - Niji Koshien practice
20) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 80,534 - Niji Koshien practice
21) Towa (Hololive) - 69,696 - New outfit reveal
22) Gwelu (Nijisanji) - 90,186 - 3D debut
23) Luna (Hololive) - 52,218 - New outfit reveal
24) Okayu (Hololive) - 64,102 - 3D live
25) Ren (Nijisanji) - 90,269 - Debut stream
26) Maimoto (Nijisanji) - 57,593 - Niji Koshien practice

>PER COMPANY
13x: Hololive
12x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie

>PER STREAMER
5x: Pekora
2x: Ibrahim, Kuzuha
1x: AZKi, Gwelu, Luna, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Mel, Miko, Natsume, Nijisanji, Okayu, Ren, Salome, Shiina, Shion, Subaru, Towa, Tsukasa

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
131x: Hololive
66x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
3x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
23x: Pekora
16x: Aqua, Salome
14x: Kuzuha
13x: Miko
9x: Subaru
6x: Hal
5x: Kanata, Marine
4x: Gura, Hololive, Mio, Okayu, Suisei, Toya
3x: Chloe, Choco, Flare, Nijisanji, Towa
2x: Ange, Fuwa, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Polka
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, AZKi, Botan, Chronoir, Debi, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Laplus, Luna, Maimoto, Masaru, Mayuzumi, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Noel, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sango, Shiina, Shion, Sora, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

>>29333040
Final /news/ roundup for 26-07-2022
>>29267909

Recent clip numbers
>>29251048
>>29251104
>>29248531
>>29248579

>>29333209
>>29333193
So which one is it ya faggots?

almost always worth watching: gura, irys, fauna
sometimes worth watching: ina, mumei, kronii (only collabs), amelia
not worth watching: kiara, mori, bae

>>29333040

>>29333329
Do your reps

>>29333404

>>29333400
Watch Tempus and Kaela

>>29333446
Never!

>>29332701
>The last couple of Noctyx karaokes have not done that
They are still pretty crazy buffs for their viewership.
Uki's last karaoke had 18k viewers and he is below Bae on normal stream. Baes last karaoke had 9k viewers so karaokes are still insane buffs to Noctyxs compared to everything else
And Fungus had that Karaoke collab that got 28k. Yes I know that it was very big collab but that is still very high numbers. Fulgur is a legit 2k shitter usually but on a karaoke collab he got 28k. Selen is way above Fulgur usually but she didnt come even close to 28k even on her anniversary when everyone was in VC. So it is still absurd buffs for Luxiem and Noctyxs

Wait, Hololive already has 14 gold? Does this mean if they get one more, it will be another tie this month since an indie vtuber got 1 gold?

>>29333455
>4.9k voting on a 5.7k stream
Good viewer engagament.

*YESTERDAY'S FINAL GAIJIN TALLY*
>14,072: Ren (Nijisanji)
>12,283: Regis (Holostars)
>12,116: Luca (Nijisanji)
>11,784: Fauna (Hololive)
>11,322: Kronii (Hololive)
>11,042: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>9,995: Shu (Nijisanji)
>9,254: Aster (Nijisanji)
>9,084: Axel (Holostars)
>8,704: Maria (Nijisanji)
>8,530: Kyo (Nijisanji)
>8,249: Kaela (Hololive)
>7,566: Kobo (Hololive)
>7,504: Magni (Holostars)
>7,492: Aia (Nijisanji)
>7,251: Ike (Nijisanji)
>7,133: Mori (Hololive)
>6,445: Selen (Nijisanji)
>6,064: Ike (Nijisanji)
>5,374: Scarle (Nijisanji)
>5,301: Baelz (Hololive)
>5,131: Anya (Hololive)
>5,112: Amelia (Hololive)

>GAIJIN GOLD SO FAR FOR JULY
1. Mumei (Hololive) - 18,378 (I'm on Observation Duty 5 w/Fauna)
2. Ina (Hololive) - 22,039 (Return Stream)
3. Luca (Nijisanji) - 26,367 (600k sub celebration unarchived karaoke)
4. Mumei (Hololive) - 22,338 (HoloCure: Save the Fans)
5. Kobo (Hololive) – 22,212 (Getting Over It)
6. Gura (Hololive) - 32,780 (HoloCure: Save the Fans)
7. Kiara (Hololive) - 36,856 (3D Birthday concert)
8. Gura (Hololive) - 19,070 (I am Fish)
9. Kobo (Hololive) – 12,130 (Rock Simulator)
10. Lily (Cloud Horizon) – 21,623 (Graduation ceremony)
11. IRyS (Hololive) - 23,882 (1st Anniversary Celebration)
12. Sana (Hololive) – 22,793 (Graduation announcement)
13. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 14,315 (Reviewing viewer dishes)
14. Mysta (Nijisanji) – 21,552 (Genshin Impact gacha)
15. Kobo (Hololive) – 14,834 (Golf It! w/Mori)
16. Kronii (Hololive) – 16,001 (Dark Deception)
17. Vox (Nijisanji) - 13,352 (RP ASMR)
18. Selen (Nijisanji) - 18,215 (Obsydia 1 year anniversary celebration)
19. Mumei (Hololive) - 25,551 (Anatomy review w/Calli and Sana)
20. Vox (Nijisanji) - 13,804 (The Sims 4 making Iluna House)
21. Mumei (Hololive) - 41,318 (Council & IRyS 3D debut)
22. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 13,707 (Comeback)
23. Magni (Holostars) - 43,574 (Debut)
24. Noir (Holostars) - 35,649 (Debut)
25. Ren (Nijisanji) - 90,269 (Debut)
26. Ren (Nijisanji) - 14,072 (Debut 2.0)

>GOLD PER COMPANY
Holopro - 16
Nijisanji – 9
Others - 1

>GOLD PER STREAMER
4x: Mumei
3x: Kobo, Mysta
2x: Gura, Vox, Ren
1x: Ina, Luca, Kiara, Lily, IRyS, Sana, Kronii, Selen; Magni, Noir

>>29333633
They have 13. Fucking schizo keep messing up Tallyanon's tally on the 14th.

>>29333633
retard

7.2k physical copies sold in a week and about ~600 digital copies. Did better than Your Mori but is not a significant increase over it iirc.

>>29333612
Yeah I'm not sure what he's referring to unless he's specifically talking about Yugo's karaokes. Only Uki really does karaokes in Noctyx and he's still getting the same 16-18k as always. Fulgur, Alban, and Sonny are all memey singers at best so they rarely ever do karaokes.

Also, I just realized it's been more than half a year since Kronii's last karaoke... Damn.

>>29333633
disastrous tie I think, considering the fact that nijis have koshien buff month

>>29333720
>SILVER PER COMPANY
Holopro - 18
Nijsanji - 7
Others - 0

>SILVER PER STREAMER
5x: Kobo
3x: Gura
2x: Vox, Luca, Mori, Baelz, Regis
1x: Uki, Mysta, Mumei, Amelia, IRyS, Kiara, Axel, Aster

>BRONZE PER COMPANY
Holopro - 19
Nijsanji - 7
Others – 0

>BRONZE PER STREAMER
4x: Ina
3x: Kobo, Mumei
2x: Amelia, Kronii, Luca
1x: Shu, Kiara, Fauna, Mori, Moona, Petra, Uki, Fulgur, Magni, Aia

>MEDAL COUNT
Mumei: 8 (4-1-3)
Kobo: 11 (3-5-3)
Mysta: 4 (3-1-0)
Gura: 5 (2-3-0)
Vox: 4 (2-2-0)
Ren: 2 (2-0-0)
Luca: 5 (1-2-2)
IRyS: 2 (1-1-0)
Kiara: 3 (1-1-1)
Ina: 5 (1-0-4)
Kronii: 3 (1-0-2)
Magni: 2 (1-0-1)
Lily: 1 (1-0-0)
Sana: 1 (1-0-0)
Selen: 1 (1-0-0)
Noir: 1 (1-0-0)
Mori: 3 (0-2-1)
Baelz: 2 (0-2-0)
Regis: 2 (0-2-0)
Amelia: 3 (0-1-2)
Uki: 2 (0-1-1)
Axel: 1 (0-1-0)
Aster: 1 (0-1-0)
Shu: 1 (0-0-1)
Fauna: 1 (0-0-1)
Moona: 1 (0-0-1)
Petra: 1 (0-0-1)
Fulgur: 1 (0-0-1)
Aia: 1 (0-0-1)

>>29333756
sub 10k lmao what a failure

July 1 - 25 vod views

Individual
>Kobo (Hololive) 12,997,518
>Mori (Hololive) 11,026,751
>Nijisanji English (Nijisanji) 10,656,023
>Mysta (Nijisanji) 7,294,570
>Gura (Hololive) 6,791,841
>Vox (Nijisanji) 6,153,350
>Luca (Nijisanji) 5,777,383
>Luxiem Ch (Nijisanji) 4,554,406
>Kiara (Hololive) 4,201,361
>Pomu (Nijisanji) 4,081,711
>Selen (Nijisanji) 4,017,901
>Ina (Hololive) 3,885,158
>Mumei (Hololive) 3,591,394
>Fauna (Hololive) 3,269,111
>IRyS (Hololive) 3,034,841
>Amelia (Hololive) 2,877,709
>Shu (Nijisanji) 2,841,307
>Uki (Nijisanji) 2,724,196
>Nina (Nijisanji) 2,237,046
>Alban (Nijisanji) 2,121,817
>Kronii (Hololive) 1,887,708
>Millie (Nijisanji) 1,883,172
>Ike (Nijisanji) 1,880,838
>Enna (Nijisanji) 1,750,823
>Hololive English (Hololive) 1,609,038
>Sonny (Nijisanji) 1,554,062
>Bae (Hololive) 1,542,090
>Finana (Nijisanji) 1,469,627
>Elira (Nijisanji) 1,458,667
>Sana (Hololive) 1,353,942
>Rosemi (Nijisanji) 1,243,766
>Ren (Nijisanji) 1,063,171
>Fulgur (Nijisanji) 1,024,847
>Yugo (Nijisanji) 959,373
>Maria (Nijisanji) 912,393
>Petra (Nijisanji) 750,350
>Aster (Nijisanji) 697,379
>Reimu (Nijisanji) 606,640
>Kyo (Nijisanji) 515,450
>Scarle (Nijisanji) 294,137
>Aia (Nijisanji) 117,398

branch
>Myth 28,782,820
>Luxiem 23,947,448
>Council 11,644,245
>Noctyx 8,384,295
>LazuLight 7,010,005
>Ethyria 6,477,681
>Obsydia 6,012,017
>ILUNA 3,599,928
>Hope 3,034,841

company total
>HoloEN 43,461,906 (With official ch 45,070,944)
>Nijisanji 55,431,374 (With official ch 70,641,803)

>>29333756
>tfw hololive label can make a mediocre song into a hit song

>>29333301
https://twitter.com/yokai_punipuni/status/1552124388367306752

Someone told me the youtube algorithm favors short streams. If that's true maybe that's why StarsEN management is forcing 1 hour streams.

>>29333633
Yea, Hololive has Marine's 3D and Sana's graduation that can seal the deal.

>>29333824
This makes me hopeful that Luxiem's EP will hit the Oricon chart easily. They're pretty mainstream in Japan, Korea and China

>>29333301
https://twitter.com/holostarstv/status/1552156828582219777

>>29333895
If you look at the VOD views for StarsEN, not really, but thst might be because of their low subcounts.

>>29333895
is just speculation

>>29333907
They have 2 songs

1k funnel from noir and still inclining since she's the only holo streaming

>>29333895
My wife kaela... Not favors by algorithm.. Because she stream too much

>>29333907
> They're pretty mainstream in Japan, Korea and China
Yes, they are mainstream in Japan (China), Korea (China) and China

>>29333277
While we can't know for sure yet, it's stuff like this that makes me bet more on tempus's future growth potential than against. Based on what they've said, they don't at all seem like creators willing to sit on their thumbs and do the same exact thing while maintaining the same exact audience forever; I think regis has already mentioned wanting to play around with experimental content like classic Let's Play formats and podcasts for example, so theyre definitely already thinking about how to keep going behind the scenes. I'm extremely curious just how exactly they'll look 3 months from now, unless they completely fuck it up they could be something special

>>29333905
Sana graduation won't hit 40k unless like every EN "hype" it up

I doubt Sora can get gold or even get remotely close against funeral boy today but I would fucking kneel so hard if she does

>>29333907
Ewwww a fucking faggot

>>29333963
Kek, Tempus is pretty much one foot in the overall Holobox already if they can attract casual Hololive viewers.

>>29334029
Save your knees for Sana when she surpassed Coco's graduation.

>>29333400
It's subjective

>>29333963
bae + ame funnel too

If I were a hiring manager at Cover or Nijisanji and one of the applicants told me, "I don't care about numbers, I just want to bring happiness to the world," I would laugh my ass off and throw them out
Not numberfagging is why you have Scarle, who has an absolute fucking sex design, playing fucking TWISTED WONDERLAND
The only people who say, "numbers don't matter" are the same people who echo, "money can't buy you happiness." It's a position of privilege. Like, sure, money can't make you happy. But it can buy you a jet ski. And I've never seen anyone upset on a jet ski

*YESTERDAY'S FINAL GAIJIN TALLY*
>11,784: Fauna (Hololive)
>11,322: Kronii (Hololive)
>8,249: Kaela (Hololive)
>7,566: Kobo (Hololive)
>7,133: Mori (Hololive)
>6,445: Selen (Nijisanji)
>6,064: Ike (Nijisanji)
>5,374: Scarle (Nijisanji)
>5,301: Baelz (Hololive)
>5,131: Anya (Hololive)
>5,112: Amelia (Hololive)

>GAIJIN GOLD SO FAR FOR JULY
1. Mumei (Hololive) - 18,378 (I'm on Observation Duty 5 w/Fauna)
2. Ina (Hololive) - 22,039 (Return Stream)
4. Mumei (Hololive) - 22,338 (HoloCure: Save the Fans)
5. Kobo (Hololive) – 22,212 (Getting Over It)
6. Gura (Hololive) - 32,780 (HoloCure: Save the Fans)
7. Kiara (Hololive) - 36,856 (3D Birthday concert)
8. Gura (Hololive) - 19,070 (I am Fish)
9. Kobo (Hololive) – 12,130 (Rock Simulator)
10. Lily (Cloud Horizon) – 21,623 (Graduation ceremony)
11. IRyS (Hololive) - 23,882 (1st Anniversary Celebration)
12. Sana (Hololive) – 22,793 (Graduation announcement)
14. Mysta (Nijisanji) – 21,552 (Rice field: the simulator)
15. Kobo (Hololive) – 14,834 (Golf It! w/Mori)
16. Kronii (Hololive) – 16,001 (Dark Deception)
18. Selen (Nijisanji) - 18,215 (Obsydia 1 year anniversary celebration)
19. Mumei (Hololive) - 25,551 (Anatomy review w/Calli and Sana)
20. Vox (Nijisanji) - 13,804 (The Sims 4 making Iluna House)
21. Mumei (Hololive) - 41,318 (Council & IRyS 3D debut)
22. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 13,707 (Comeback)
23. Magni (Holostars) - 43,574 (Debut)
24. Noir (Holostars) - 35,649 (Debut)
25. Ren (Nijisanji) - 90,269 (Debut)
26. Ren (Nijisanji) - 14,072 (Debut 2.0)

>GOLD PER COMPANY
Holopro - 16
Nijisanji – 1
Others - 1

>GOLD PER STREAMER
4x: Mumei
3x: Kobo, Mysta
2x: Gura, Vox, Ren
1x: Ina, Luca, Kiara, Lily, IRyS, Sana, Kronii, Selen; Magni, Noir

>>29333730
They would've gotten 15 golds if tallyanon doesn't count the obvious Zs from shiina and ibrahim on the 12th and 14th, but if he starts to change it now, nijifags wouldn't let it go and cry foul

>>29334012
Regis has impressed me. Aside from the voice, his style is pretty much brotuber. Aso, he doesn't gaybait that much.

So last thread someone posted a half hour old poll from Ame's stream that didn't get 100% engagement. I think that's what an unculled stream looks like

>>29333895
no it wouldn't be short streams exactly.
If you choose to believe algo rrats the only reason for this would be the watch % as in how much of the video people are watching and trying to keep that number high

>>29334097
c-calm down peko you need to beat yagoo first on your 2m milestone before you can decide all that

>>29334097
If you were a hiring manager at Cover or Nijisanji, they probably would have beat your ass and thrown you out already. You're clearly a dumbass, seeing as you're posting here.

>>29334097
retard

Jesus fuck, this isn't even his actual graduation stream btw

>>29333895
I dont even think the Susan pajeets know how the algo works anymore. Only Gura can intuitively flow through the algo, even if she tries to work against her it

>>29334161
he doesn't really gay bait. it's just a bias take from the retards here. nobody will call any of the girls out if they did the same joke he's making.

>>29334012
As long as they don't damage the box, I don't think there's much to go wrong

Since niji has guaranteed 3 gold for the next 3 days, do we just shitpost or shit on wave 6?

# too busy jerking off their homos to realize that maria already passed Axel's apex collab from the other day. Looks like she will be a real star.

>>29334257
Can he beat Jun?

>>29334018
Council + IRyS meme 3d got 40k. Sana's graduation has 80k floor.

>>29334012
According to Vesper, Regis and Magni are already working on projects and staying up late to edit stuff.
Maybe they have stuff in the works already.

>>29334235
Niji intern ...

>>29334097
No wonder why you are not a hiring manager
Perfect applicant know how to balance both enjoyment and numberfagging. You can numberfag all you want but if you make it the only thing you care about, shit will only backfire

>>29334318
Why do you randomly lie about numbers in the numbers thread

>>29334235
Sure, let's hire someone who doesn't give a fuck about numbers. Let's spend thousands on their model, their rigging, a salary, a computer, and advertising, all so they can play otome games they enjoy and never step out of their comfort zones or expand their audiences
It's retards like you that are the reason vtubing hasn't innovated since 2020. You just want to give money to chuubas who are too lazy to exert themselves and who coast by on the corpo name alone

>>29334257
10M JPY is a bit low for the second last stream

>>29334097
You would've never made it to hiring manager if you're this retarded.

>>29333782
I'm going to grind your bones to use in my bread

>>29334257
That is undercounting the SCs hes getting by a lot

>>29334316
Here >>29334318
Watch Nijinig pretend like beating Holostar will make you a real star (pun intended)

>>29334395
No one cares about your opinion. Shut up.

>>29334395
I'm glad Yagoo didn't hire you, since he is making tons of money right now.

>>29333040
Are tempiss 1k shitters yet

>>29333400
Nobody cares post numbers

>>29334318
Star=5k, not even a week after debut. Don't make me laugh.

What did Axel APEX peak at again? 8k?

Scratch that, just checked Playboard and RIP Coco's record

>>29334485
They're still bigger than Iluna

>>29334395
cry more indiefag, no one will care about lounge tracking till a corpo does it.

So is it true? Nijifans are comparing Iluna with Tempus and not HoloEN and HoloID?

>>29334257
I'd certainly hope it's not the graduation stream with it not even cracking 90k peak viewers.

>>29333895
Its really fucking simple. They want to keep the Tempus content low so everyone checks out every single tempus stream early on. Basically build the same insane effect Myth had.

>>29334415
Playboard has the stream as $180k

>>29334318
Ah, it's the chink hour

Nijibronies

>>29334257
Mayu is probably going to donate most of it too since he's loaded.
He's not a pillar of Nijisanji, but he has soooooo many casual fans and everyone in the community knows him

>>29333756
Where are you getting your numbers?

>>29334506
Cocos was 40 million yen

>>29334318
She's at 2.9k

>>29334533
I think its working. Regis is growing on a lot of people as a result.

>>29333400
Mori is occasionally good. I enjoyed her early Jump King.

>>29334506
It's not over yet, Niji wining again.

>>29334554
https://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/dia/w/2022-08-01/
https://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/ja/w/2022-08-01/

>>29334526
They're comparing them to Tempus and coming up unfavorably. In raw numbers, Iluna loses to Tempus lol

>>29333400
not worth watching: any EN shit

>>29334572
Bro it's just his zatsu, tomorrow is his grad so ez 50M JPY

>>29332834

Reminder

>>29334540
Wait that's an online game? Not to mention an unironic brony game? WTF I though people were exaggerating when they were shitposting with this. rumao

>>29334318
>>29333907
I hope you realize you are why this thread shits on nijisanji so much

>>29334595 (me)
Oh sorry I mixed them up, I though you meant scarlet for some reason.

>>29333811

I just realized that Bae and Kiara both peaked below 4 IDs today - Anya, Zeta, Kaela, and Kobo. Ame was hanging out in the middle somewhere. Is this ID incline or EN recline?

>>29334607
She can be, but she is mostly cringe.

>>29334526
Yeah. They always switch tactic to make Niji look bigger than it actually is

>>29334572
34m, Playboard keeps records in USD and converts old streams to Yen using present day exchange rates

>>29334498
9k according to vrabi

>>29333193
This

>>29334702
Whatever, it's 300k USD which is way more

>>29334526
Yes, but llama ended up doing worse than expected and Tempus has been far exceeding expectations.

>>29334572
Not sure if he'll beat CoCo, but he still has a lot of stream to go and his actual graduation is tomorrow.
Jun's wedding kinda shattered my conception of SCs already so it's not even a horserace to me anymore.

>>29334615
Just checking this would be JP only sales from every sales place? So CDJapan, Tower Records and so on?

>>29334506
Retard.

>>29334689
Yikes! Myth is really reclining, huh?

>>29334526
Nijiniggers are unironically desperate for a win, any kind of win, that's why they keep lying and doing shit like comparing growth rates between a 400k sub channel and a 4 million sub channel to claim that the 400k one is winning

>>29334753
Ugh how much did Jun’s wedding stream make….

>>29334526
Isnt comparing two debut gens that happen at the same time pretty expected lol? No matter who or why if there are two Niji Holo gens that gets debuted that closely together they are bound to keep getting compared. Like gen 5 to Selejo

>>29334754
Fuck off bronies, most Tempus viewers are Luxiem fans, to begin with. If Luxiem streams, Tempus is going to fucked fucked to high heaven.

>>29334689
That's weird. Why are Myth falling in VoD views while their CCV is climbing? In fact, their CCV is higher than ever recently

>>29334551
>him
LMAO

>>29334794
Yes, because none of them stream and the ones who do are pariahs at this point (i.e. Mori, Kiara, Ame). Without shark, their gen is a fucking flop

>>29333811
>Nijisanji English (Nijisanji) 10,656,023
This is the main problem with comparing VODs. Youtube ads skew the data a lot. It's basically pay to win.

>>29334613

Are Nijis really expecting this graduation to be bigger than Coco's graduation?

>>29334868
Source: I made it up

>>29334794
Hard to get vodviews if you dont have any new vods to get viewed

>>29334849
I don't have the screenshot on me rn, but I think it was over $2 mil USD or something....
Someone correct me if I'm wrong

Still can't believe Gura and Pekora interacted for more than 5 minutes today
I wish one day the blue women will unite

>>29334694
mostly ID incline

>>29334485
October

>>29334694
ID is spamming buff content right now. Anya with Rust and Kaela/Zeta with Minecraft.

>>29334850
>gen 5 to Selejo
Like comparing sky and ant

>>29334869
ccv is a joke number, not related to anything and means nothing to no one outside of the medal shitposting here.

>>29334869
Hmm maybe it has something to with all the shitposts there has been about Gura not streaming since her BD

>>29334869
VODs are easily affected by youtube ads. Finana with shit viewership might have high VODs because of ads so comparing it with others for growth indication is useless.

>>29334689
NijiEN numbers = Luxiem numbers

>>29334849
~$3m in total

>>29334780
Yes, you can check the list of stores here: https://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/about/
Fun fact, Nijisanji official store is somehow listed here while Holostore is not.

>>29334868
>most Tempus viewers are Luxiem fans
The Chinese don't watch HoloPro

>>29334869
Because fans are more likely to watch a stream if it is the first stream in a week.

Huh,
So YT just recommended me the channel of Kiara's friend in LA
Took them long enough

>>29334533
Pretty much this. Cover knows that Holomales do not necessarily have great audience reach even in the west compared to their female counterparts. Getting them to at least share the audience will help boost all of them in the lagorithm while giving everyone a shot before letting them run wild.

>>29334953
Sushi is already smelling views in the water https://youtu.be/l4fHBhUvpR0

>>29334990
CCV is the objectively most important metric retard, why the fuck do you think Vtubers primarily stream instead of just uploading fucking VoDs if VoD views are important? Only CCVs matter.

>>29334689
youtube ads make comparisons for vod views completely useless

>>29334990
Then why do Gura and Aqua get so many sponsorships. They don’t fucking stream so their vod views are shit.

>>29335035
Nah. If you look at the overall NijiEN vs HoloEN VOD numbers, NijiEN has had more this month
Yes, that's right. NijiEN as a whole had more views than HoloEN as a whole
The fucking recline is real

>>29334540
do nijibronies really

>>29335100
proof next thread yeah

>>29334794
They don't stream enough and people like Ame and Kiara specifically seem to pick content that'll do poor views.

>>29334869
VODs are mostly just a reflection of total streamtime

>>29335067
Fuck off, Chinese fujos are falling in love with Tempus. They like men more than faggots.

>>29335144
The proof is that no fucking corpo or indie uploads prerecorded content you retard. Not a single fucking one does that shit anymore, WHY? Because VoD views do not matter.

>>29334869
youtube ad makes it difficult to count vod views.

>>29335201
>>29335067
>>29334868
>>29334754
Source: my left testicle

https://youtu.be/1h_130LtiPY
Kaela 3rd attempt.... This gonna boost her average

>>29334754
It could only go worse from here if NijiEN doesn't stop talking about politics in general.

>>29334012
An EN gen that is actually enthusiastic about strraming and creating content? Amazing

i live Ztube
also Noir pulling 6.8k aint too shabby for such a late stream neat, going to assume he was redirected though?

>>29335106
NijiEN's VOD views are boosted by ads.

>>29334869
They don't stream enough and no good music lately. Mori pulls in a lot of views for Myth, but her last two originals haven't really performed. Same with Ina's song with Sana.

Do you guys think the people who argue over CCV vs VODs are the same? I've literally seen this time loop at least 30 times in the few months I've been here and it gets stupider every time.

>>29335219
so a lie and no proof

>>29335100
This isn't twitch bitch boy

>>29334869
VOD views are dominated by music videos.
NijiEN for example pays heavily for this by using ads which can easily inflate numbers.

>>29335103
>Guras VoD views are shit
What world do you live in?

>>29334318
Phoneposters need to be range banned.

>>29335100
But that's literally how it was in 2017? The meta shifted from video uploading to live streaming because outside of some people with real cash or a buttload of free time churning heavily edited videos to make it interesting everyday is just not feasible. For live streaming all you need is a workable l2d, hell even PNG can suffice and you can start doing it right away. Whether CCV or VOD views being more important has literally no impact on the meta shift.

>>29334680
Kys Nijinigger gtfo

>>29335344
UMG might be looking at the Zot man and Maria for potential replacements for Mori.

>>29335098
Gura to Peko feels like the Peko to Koro scary senpai dynamic

>>29335106
That's what happens when the most popular gen is gone for half of it and the other company has double the amount Vtubers in their branch.

It's not a recline since golds this month are still dominated by HoloEN theirs just been an upsetting lack of activity for some reason.

>>29334869
Streaming wise, most of Nijis have stagnated and even reclined. The high VOD viewership they got was through ad-boosted music and other ad-boosted promotional.

>>29335344
Her album literally just made it to #2 on iTunes and barely lost to the solo album of a BTS member. Mori is doing fine.

>>29335324
>going to assume he was redirected though?
Yup he had like a 6.2k waiting room from the raid so he didn't incline too much. On the bright side tho, he also kept all those viewers despite streaming a completely different game from A way out.
I'm not sure how many Tempus viewers are actually down to follow the boys for 4 hours no matter what they're streaming.

>>29335052
I couldn’t quite understand is that all sales ever of it? So including the preorder period? And it doesn’t include Itunes?

>>29335324
Tempus consistenly magging the newest Niji gen is kinda amazing to see.

>>29334318
>Rosemi is one of the worst vtubers ever
>Make Rosemi 2.0
>She fucking sucks too
>Looks like she will be a real star
You people are fucking insane

Can someone go back and make a graph of stream hours all the way back to when Myth debuted? I want to be able to see if HoloEN is seriously streaming less these days and if it correlated to VoD views.

In fact, it would be good to also chart VoD views divided by stream hours, I want to know if this number is static for HoloEN, changing, and how it compares to NijiEN

>>29335344
Hololive doesn't use ads that's why it has lower baseline views than expected.

>>29335324
Magni redirected to Uncle Nowa's waiting room.

>>29334869
Why is there 10 posts about ads.
NijiEN puts ads on all their debut song for a couple of weeks but there arent random vods of Finana that gets ads lol, /#/ is getting more retarded when it comes to NijiEN rrats every day

MARIA 7K DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>29335504
It's a fun dynamic, I just hope Gura doesn't overdo it too much. Then again it's not like I don't understand where it's coming from since Gura is a clipfag in terms of how well she knows Pekor and the most other experiences she's had with Pekor are her getting pranked in minecraft by her.

>>29335461
Did people decide to shift to Mori killer after Gura killer ended up as a curse? People were trying this with the latina before and now these 2?

>>29335219
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJFZiqLMntJufDCHc6bQixg/videos

How to say you're a fucking retard without saying you're a fucking retard

>>29335544
NTA, but Oricon is kind of a meme when it comes to counting album sales because if it's not from one of their recognized stores, they don't count it. International sales outside of Japan obviously don't count either.
However, it's one of the few sources we have for physical album sales in Japan so we make do. Oricon-anon is actually a wizard because I get dizzy just trying to find numbers on their shitty site.

>>29335504
The kouhai are all spooked by Pekora for some reasons. Especially the newer one

>>29335634
I saw NijiEN ads for its newest wave. That can easily inflate their vod views.

>>29335652
Underperforms relative to Niji main channel content, because they have better CCV than Hololive does, nice proving my point for me

>>29335668
Wait so would my CDJapan order from Australia not be counted?

>>29335706
Yeah as I said they put ads for the debut song every time. But you wont get an ad for an Rosemi stream or Uki cover or whatever

>>29335634
It's literally the same anon spamming "ads, ads, ads" and everyone ignores him for a reason.
NijiEN usually stops with the ads after the song hits 1 mil and we have VOD tracking sites to see when the views drop off once the ads end.

>>29334869
The less streams there are the less total VOD views there will be. CCV is up because when they DO stream it gets good numbers however the fact that say Gura only streamed only 8 goddamn times this month means their down a few million not to mention Mori's 2 recent songs have been on the slower end of getting views atm.

>>29335634
There are posts talking about ads because Nijisanji fucking buys ads and it does in fact boost the number of views they get by millions. It's basically a fucking sprinter getting caught using performance enhancing drugs, if you don't fucking disqualify someone for that shit what will you disqualify them for

This thread's quality keeps worsening, and I think this time is permanent, now at 1.5x speed. I hate tourists.

>>29335219
VOD views matter but not in the context of comparing them with different boxes cause there are a lot of factors that could affect the view count.
Ads is one of the major factors for it just like how raids could totally invalidate peak CCV tracking.

>>29335544
Yes, all sales of the album recorded by all of Oricon's affiliated stores for the week, be it digital or physical. Combined weekly rank should be out in an hour or two which will include domestic streaming points.
>>29335668
Oricon anon has a premium Oricon account or smth, he has access to more numbers than the casual numberfags like me who can only see current week/day sales numbers.
>>29335781
Most likely not counted. AFAIK Oricon also won't count orders delivered to known proxy addresses.

>>29335832
Debut season...yayyyy

>>29335461
Retard

>>29335609
Anon Gura only streamed 8 fucking times this month. Back than Gura at the very least had 4 streams in a week bare minimum.

>>29335799
>The less streams there are the less total VOD views there will be.
No it's not. Short vids are the meta for farming VOD views.

>>29335781
Prob not. I think if you're a burger buying it from itunes, it doesn't count either.

>>29335911
In that case that seems like pretty good numbers for what is her secondary market.

>>29335977
And those 8 streams were better than any Nijikek stream.

>>29335832
I think we'll slow down again, although if EN3 and NijiEN7 happen within a month or two the pace of shitposting will probably accelerate. But tourists aren't going to be interested in this subject for the long haul

>>29335977
I don't care about anecdotal evidence I want to see a fucking graph directly charting the change over time and comparing it against VoD views overtime

>>29335982
I don't think HoloEN has been even that recently.

>>29335714
CCV doesn't correlate with VOD views.

The reason why NijiEN is competitive in VOD views is because they shove those videos in your face with youtube ads.

>>29336059
CCV is superior to VoD views

Maria Marionette overtook Scale Brownboobs in subscribers
talk about blowing a design buff to a girl with a god awful voice on top of that. lmao

>>29335799
Mori is underperforming for sure but look at Gura’s vods. She puts out 2 streams and it’s 1 mil views in vods. Even if they are on the lower end, at most it would be 3 videos.

>>29335982
True, but since HoloEN wasn't really doing them in the first place it doesn't explain VoDs suddenly cratering from March onwards - while the raw lack of streams does. Even Nai Nai at its peak weekly play count was barely 1/2 of what Ina was getting from stream VoDs from past weekly schedules.

>>29335982
You're right, but I think only Ame and sometimes Kiara does stuff like that in HoloEN whereas half of NijiEN does short form VOD content.
Mysta farms so many views with VODs that are literally second-long highlights of his streams.

>>29336113
proof?

>>29336098
No, it's because they have twice as many Livers and stream like 4 times as much

>>29336098
Of course NijiEN would use dirty underhanded tactics. Probably something they learned from their bosses in China.

>>29336179
Dumbass, stop asking me to prove the state of the industry to you. Every fucking Vtuber streams and their livelihood depends on CCV, not VoD views.

>>29335809
Because it is very neglible compared to the total amount of views over months times. Luxiem has an combined 148 million views and of those 1 million is ad views for Hope In the Dark.

And that is IF it was counted. The debut songs that get ads are on the official NijiEN channel so it doesnt count towards Luxiems cumulative Vodviews in that chart.
So in conclusion. You are retarded and getting mad about nothing.

>>29336048
Have you forgotten about clips? They could also boost VOD views. Comparing about VODs without taking into account the ecosystem of each box makes it useless. A lot of Hololive's potential VOD views go to the clips provided by the community.

>>29336118
Scarle's number dropped by half and she's still streaming the VN. Her numbers are going to be rough at this rate.
Maria's Apex number isn't actually that bad relative to her wavemates, she's already 2nd place.

>>29336187
>Livers
Go away Nijikek

>>29336187
Exactly this.

>>29336134
Yeah now imagine if she actually had a streaming schedule this month...

It's not rocket science to figure out that Gura with more streams=an extra few more million just on her own in VOD views.

>>29336140
nijiEN management is focusing on using big numbers to capture the EN viewers mindshare
without factoring content quality

>>29336187
but the numbers show like half is from pre made content

>pekora had tk save gura's rust numbers
I swear EN is just fucking garbage

>>29336242
No nigger prove that ccv is objectively superior to vods when it comes to payouts with actual numbers, not because you say so

> Nowa-oji has a schizo now
bros... he made it...

>>29336248
>You are retarded and getting mad about nothing.
But that is like half the thread every day

>>29336311
NIjiseethe

>>29336338
How many superchats come through vod views?


Yeah thought so retard

>>29336252
We're adding up the official channels not clipping channels. If that were the case than HoloEN's total VOD views skyrocket to the goddamn moon.

>>29336187
Anon, company made clips, shorts, skits and shit contributes more to Vod views than the actual streams.
Comparing Vods without including the community behind the company is useless cause a lot of Holo fans watch clips produced by the fans themselves.

>>29336242
Then why don't they move to Twitch, where CCV matter more than VOD? It's not like they cannot upload to YT anyway

>>29333907
Nijiliars take after the company I guess.

Kek Kaela just flat out farming CCV peaks now.
All the minecraft streams she needs to redo because of her ISP are all far beyond her numbers for other games.
Shouldn't affect the numbers too much tho since she does so many streams anyways.

>>29336399
so you are just a poor useless greyfag pretending you matter

>>29336140
Hololive has the backing of its community to provide that.
Nijisanji literally had to poach clippers of Hololive to artificially boost their community.

>>29334235
>>29334382
>>29334420
He's right though.
No one should be "I'm all about the numbers/money", but anyone coming into this kind of business with the idea they shouldn't care about numbers should be viewed as a naive person at best and shouldn't be trying to apply to businesses because their interests are more often than not mutually exclusive. Companies like Cover may hire them because they show promise, but then the managers that have to take care of them will try hard to beat the naivety out of them and it will cause conflicts that lead to heightened levels of stress which may or may not lead to even more hostile behavior (and stress).

Management also has to be flexible though. They have to match all potential vtuber personas with a model that fits them so that they are at are comfortable with the avatar that represents them and to signal to the audience that is watching that "this is the type of character that I want to be about". On those grounds, I do think that Niji's management failed "Latina" Scarle, while Cover somehow succeeded with "Uncle Granpa" Vesper.

The only ones that shouldn't be caring about numbers is the audience, since they gain nothing from obsessing over numbers.

>>29336399
>Fucking SC
Stop embarrassing the gray nation bro

>>29336399
>Superchats
>When the bulk of their income comes from other sources
When you're tiny, sure SCs are the bulk of your income, but cover has moved far, far, far past that point.

If we count clips actually Gura's CCV is higher than Pekora's
Clips are part of the eco system, why not count clips?

>>29335461
> nijicope #47 Blatant Lying

>>29336442
Maybe Kaela mogging Kobo is becoming more common..

>>29336484
>He's right though
Stopped reading, don't be retarded. You are wrong, deal with it.

>>29336311
Rust is not EN game, these girl can't wage war against each other for shit unlike Pekor and Suisei mercilessly SWATting Miko house

>>29336508
Because then it's gonna just be Holo vs Holo, and that shit boring

>>29336476
I wish I was kidding, but NijiEN clipping ecosystem is on twitter. That's why you see their stream tags trend so often.
Their "clippers" just post their clips there instead of youtube and engagement can get pretty high sometimes.
I don't understand how the female brain works.

>>29336406
Precisely anon.
VODs are genrally dominated by short content. Nijis do the clippings themselves because they lack the community that Hololive has. Nijisanji also pay ads for its content. Comparing VODs without understanding the different ecosystem that each company lives in is retarded.

funny hours.

>>29336484
>On those grounds, I do think that Niji's management failed "Latina" Scarle, while Cover somehow succeeded with "Uncle Granpa" Vesper.
I agree with the rest of your point, but you're lying if you say that you expected a boomer autist who waxes about plastic wrap balls during his debut from this character design

>>29336508
What? This doesn't make any sense.

>>29336508
Yeah clips count towards vodviews and clippers count toward CCV when they are streaming. So soda got pretty good CCV, just add those on top of Gura's CCV

>>29336399
>superchats
why are you retarded?

This is surprising, why was haachama trending again? I don't see a stream or anything like that

>>29336561
It'll never happen so stop thinking about it. Even Kaela gets 1k higher of a peak than Kobo, Kobo is going to end up with 200k more VOD views. She's in a different world compared to the rest of HoloID, who are in a different world compared to the rest of ID's vtubers.

someone watch one eye girl from ilama? hows her apex skill?

What went wrong?

>>29336670
who is this fag?

>>29336684
because she's making tweets like this

>>29336684
She made a tweet with a comic implying that she flunked college

>>29336628
It is making fun of posts like this:
>>29336411

Remember NijiEN is a mistake and if you see them pop up in your feed click those three dots and set to not recommend.

>>29336508
clips have 0 ccv so you're not adding anything

>>29336508
Gura is popular for a reason. Her VODs doesn't tell all that. It's the community behind Hololive that makes them the powerhouse.

>>29336484
Vesper in particular doesn't try to stress about numbers but he does prioritize whether his audience will enjoy/be entertained by what he's streaming. Which in turn does benefit his numbers even if he's not specifically doing it for a higher view count.

Scarle seems to not give a shit about stuff like that and would rather stream whatever she feels like.

>>29336754
I actually retched at this thumbnail

Anon...

The decline of Myth is primarily Amelia Watson's fault.

>>29336698
shes not playing ranked so i cant tell

>>29336718
EVERYTHING

>>29336742
???????
IS THAT A FUCKING RAGE COMIC???

>>29336736
asmongold

>>29336690
Kaela got higher peak today. Why not tomorrow? Compare Kaela's incline over two weeks to Kobo's. I am obviously mostly bullshiting, but I do believe Kaela beating Kobo is going to happen atleast once a week going forward

>>29336824
yes

>>29336824
It's soulful if she drew that herself

I suspect bots were involved with these bloated VOD views.

>>29336718
everything, but this is a good start

>>29336827
cool vtuber name bro

>>29334869
Less stream time overall. Causes VODs to drop off.

>>29336505
>>29336670
we're talking Nijien, these people aren't making most of their money from Sponsors. Maybe half at most, but even that is depending entirely on CCV rather than fucking vod views.

https://twitter.com/omegaalpha_en/status/1552188669133344768

>>29336718
>0:26
>1:30
>2:28

t.captcha NASYY

Why is UMG worse about putting up song waiting rooms early than Mori when she was independent?

>>29336684
Just FYI, she's not actually trending, she's "trending for you" because you browse a lot of vtuber content and twitter is trying to trick you into thinking stuff you like is trending. They do this for all sorts of different topics depending on your likes and retweets. Hachama is not actually trending with just 1.4k tweets.
Luxiemfags fall for this shit all the time when they think their oshi is trending, but it's just them spamming the tags.

As for the answer to your question, the other two answered it.

>>29336904
back your shit up with actual proof and not just you saying it

>>29336904
Well then you should specify that, since Holo already passed that phase

>>29336864
VOD views doesn't indicate popularity over the other groups because their ecosystem might not be the same.

>>29336804
Looking at that data, the big difference between the most recent huge month, March, and a weaker one (June) looks to be Mori, followed by Kiara and Ina. Ame and Gura both have more VOD views than March, not less, but Mori has far fewer and Kiara and Ina have almost half.
How do you figure it's Ame's fault

TIK TOK TIK TOK
July is almost over.. nijinigger its time to pray that its not your oshi turn to graduate

>>29336923
shut the fuck up this is actually important

Last week nijisisters where continuously laughing at Tempus and even more after Iluna's announcement.
Fast forward to today where Tempus CCVs are above Iluna and nijisisters are calling numberfags toxic when karma came to bite them.

>>29336804
what kind of stream hours do Pomu and Selen put in compared to holoEN, theyre really fucking competitive with most of Myth and Council since April if not outright destroying them like they are this month.

>>29336839
>Kaela with turbo buffed Minecraft beat Kobo reading donations
I mean if that's your criteria of beating, go ahead.

Petition to delete /#/ because nobody actually discusses numbers and everyone loves going into the same fucking timeloops of VOD views vs. ccv, myth/luxiem is reclining, council/noctyx weren't as successful as people thought, and iluna/tempus are DOA?

>>29336753
the problem with ironic shitposting is that it only works when everyone involved knows it's ironic.
this was a fun method of humor back when 4chan was a site hidden away from normalfag eyes, and lurking was part of the culture.
now it's filled with sub room temp iq retards, so ironic shitposting is indistinguishable from actual retardation because there are people that unironically believe stupid shit like this now.

>>29336508
This might honestly be the dumbest general on this entire site. The most obvious bait, the most obvious joke, it doesnt matter what it is, if it is posted in this thread there will be 40 retarded SEAfaggots going "uhuhuhuu nuh uuuuuhhhh no". Zero ability to recognize bait

>>29336742
I will now unironically use 2012 memes

>>29336904
>these people aren't making most of their money from Sponsors
Nijis are small time players in comparison. Big content creators rely mostly from merch sales. Kson said that her SC income dominated her earnings when she went indie, which goes to show that poor people rely on SCs more.

>>29337065
what the fuck yaogoo

>>29337003
petition to delete niji generals since it's infested with zhangs and retarded fujos spamming gore when the narrative doesn't suit their needs

>>29336958
the conversation wasn't hololive specific, it was "what stat should a streamer most care about". I said "CCV because that's where the bulk of an average streamers income is derived - nobody donates to a VOD" and then three retards hopped on me for daring to suggest that streamers make most of their money while streaming. OFC hololive is a different beast, and maybe I should have clarified

>>29336718
From left to right

>Gutter whore
>Generic Grandia looking bitch
>Rosemi 2.0
>Trap #1
>Trap #2
>Head Tumor Man

>>29336992
They do put in big stream hours compared to HoloEN (not Kaela level tho), but like a third of their vod views are shorts. And for Pomu she had a cover that got a lot of views

>>29337003
>myth/luxiem is reclining, council/noctyx weren't as successful as people thought, and iluna/tempus are DOA?
It's actually pretty funny when you put it that way lmao, but I don't think anyone defends Noctyx here apart from correcting incorrect numbers.

>>29336980
Can we make a betting thread for which niji livers will graduate next month?

>>29337003
you are the reason why we shit on nijisanji so much, just so you know

>>29336933
Oh no I understand that, irs not fully fully trending but trending within a topic I guess? A lot of the EN girls trend in the same way I've seen, never seen niji girls though except during the new Gen debut

>>29336986
Tempus is just way more talented and entertaining. It actually makes me happy that they have proven there's a market for brotubers.

>>29336982
Personally I like scans where the scanlators don't try to replace the Japanese sfx and just put the TL note in between the panels.

>>29337003
or you can just fuck off

>>29336047
These tourists are just repeating things they heard here hoping that they become part of the general. FFS, in a past thread there was a retard that believed that the Zs are because of bots.
And if it had a little bias for hololive before, now it's way way more unbalanced. I hope some other third company breaks through so these fucking idiots can fuck off.

>>29337065
MY SIDES

safe to say tempus did not incline starsjp at all, well maybe to the bday boy last night but that's because it was semi raid

So does tempus have any women watching them or is it all dudes? I can't image someone like Noir having much of a female audience.

>>29337102
I mean, consider VOD view is basically passive income, I would say that's true even when you're not Holo
Same with merch, which is why it's baffling that Niji invest so little in theirs

>>29337152
LMAO I see Rosemi, Selen, and Enna trending for me sometimes and I'm like "Twitter, Hellllllllllllllllllllllllll no"
I don't mind the girls, but just no.

Pre-primetime /news/ update for 27-07-2022 (all times are in JST)
> Crunchyroll Super Expo 2022 reveals more Hololive Guests (no meet and greet however) -
Tokino Sora : https://twitter.com/crunchyrollexpo/status/1551975756007280641
Sakura Miko : https://twitter.com/crunchyrollexpo/status/1551976959004905474
Takane Lui : https://twitter.com/crunchyrollexpo/status/1551978320740302848
Sakamata Chloe : https://twitter.com/crunchyrollexpo/status/1551979409615179779
A-chan : https://twitter.com/crunchyrollexpo/status/1551980752782299136
> Korone has a "very very happy announcement" planned for noon (https://twitter.com/inugamikorone/status/1552069789777989632).).
> Shylily 3D debut stream announced for 30th July at 2am (https://twitter.com/shylilytwitch/status/1551168088443437062).).
> Hololive collaboration with Yokai watch game "Yokai Puni Puni" announced (https://twitter.com/yokai_punipuni/status/1552124388367306752).).
> Holostars:Uproar collaboration with cultural event "Akiba Yabai" as ambassadors for "Gekikara Yabai" (https://twitter.com/holostarstv/status/1552156828582219777).).
> Aqua contracted COVID (https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1552126640695689216).).
> Mayuzumi holding a 60 person call-in stream on the eve of his graduation (https://youtu.be/zEhtnivG1hs).).

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>>29337198
please stop doom eternal

Zea...

>>29337198
We have to see if collabs between StarsJP and EN have any effect.

>>29336718
The fact that
>"smart" chick has a scholar-looking nerd model
>boisterous texmex chick has latina mommy model
>rosemi 2 has rosemi 2 model
>faggot has faggot model (applies to all the boys)
Seems like this generation was SPECIFICALLY the most scouted of them all, all the models+personalities designed and intended to match.

Which means whoever is scouting is specifically looking for SJWs and retards to fill the ranks of Niji.

>>29337178
t. Nijinigger
No, you will not convince anyone that this thread was ever tolerant of your bullshit

>>29337262
This is not global, faggot. Go back if you want to make those posts.

sora hit one million btw

>>29337211
VOD views are such passive income that they're an opportunity cost to actually invest in. The only real VOD content that is worth doing for these streamers is ASMR since that has replay value and more of a "VOD-feel". The only real revenue from VODs is ads and sponsors; both which can come from a stream anyway.

Well damn, even people from VirtualReal are calling in.

>>29337202
Maybe women just want some cool dudes to watch and don't want all the sexual gay baiting bullshit. Just like how there are plenty of dudes here who just want to watch cute girls be cute and not act like cheap whores (like all of the NijiEN girls and Vshitshow).

>>29337178
Blame you and your friends for blatantly lying about nijisanji so much that nobody in this thread will trust a nijinigger anymore. This is literally the boy who cried wolf effect in action

>>29337178
>the Zs are because of bots.
Worse, they thought Z's could be paid for on demand when Nijis needed a better peak kek

>>29337202
Roasties got filtered early on so it's only bros and a handful of women now.

>>29337391
Kill yourself, retard. Stop calling everyone a nijinigger just because you don't like their opinion.

>>29337311
nice

>>29337351
holy shit, he's 4 hours in and he's only 17/60. This is going to be 12 hours at this point.
Probably 2-3 mil view VOD right at the end if he keeps 50k CCV throughout.

>>29336904
Sponsors actually pay a fuckton. The typical asking rate for a 600k-800k YouTuber is $10k for a 60s Sponsor ad integrated into a video. And that's typically just for Sponsors like Manscaped, Raycon, NordVPN, etc.

>>29337232
> Korone has a "very very happy announcement" planned for noon (https://twitter.com/inugamikorone/status/1552069789777989632))

>>29336804
IRyS had a good first 2 months. I was wondering why she's ahead of Council in views. Must be the animated PV and her initial hololive covers

>>29337468
stop shitting up the thread because you don't like what we say here then

>>29337508
You will never fit in.

Be honest with me, is there anyone who's been here since the /vyt/ days?

>>29336698
ok watched her do 2 rounds shes dogshit and bad at talking while playing

>>29337556
you will never be accepted

>>29337102
VOD views also measure and reflect how well a stream has done. Why claim streaming income as a correlation to only CCV.

>>29336992
Shorts motherfucker.

Okay, so I need to know this. I've heard people say you can make a living off 500 ccv and do streaming full time. I feel like that's a blatant fucking lie. If all 500 of your viewers were membered, you'd still only get a portion of that membership money. Let's be generous and say you get 50%, that's 500 x 5 (cost of membership) x .5 = $1.25k a month. Suppose each viewer also donates at minimum $5 a month and you get 50% of that. That's another $1.25k a month. Add in revenue from vod views and what not, and you're making like $40k/year
Is that seriously enough to live off of in a best case scenario? You're going to need to grind as a streamer for the rest of your life and fucking hope you don't lose viewership
The reason I ask is because I see Finana's ccv and I can't help but wonder how the fuck she isn't living in abject poverty unless she's also getting a salary or has incredibly rich gachis

>>29336698
Nice try Nijikek. I'm not watching your whore.

>>29337581
perfect, just like ame but cuter model

>>29337493
yeah but I doubt they differentiate a stream vs a VOD (and that if they would, they would be approaching streamers in the first place).

>>29337202
In her members Mori talked about how she was super happy they didn’t go for all ikemen fujo bait so clearly there’s some women who prefer it

>>29336992
as streamers they aren't

see
>>29333404
>>29333479

barely any nijien

>>29337493
Yeah wasn't there an article about how much train was paid per hour playing apex? Sponsored streams are nuts. Those numberpoison judge eye streams pekora did got her millions. And people wonder why she only reads red superchat now if she feels like it.

>>29337232
Oh I might've missed the announcement for StarsJP, good for them.

>>29337202
There's some female audience, but I don't think it's nearly as big as the NijiEN males, likely closer to NijiJP males.
>Regis?
Softboi, duh.
>Magni?
Ugly avatar, but he's the funniest EN male vtuber so some girls might be into that.
>Axel?
Himbo, duh.
>Vesper?
I had doubts, but he's actually adorably endearing if you can get past the avatar. I think some females might be able to see under the surface.

>>29337621
i should also mention shes really fucking bad at english im pretty sure or at least thats the impression im getting

>>29337608
No, anon. CCV is made just for that. VODs can be affected by ads. You can't compare normal videos with ad-boosted ones for performance.

>>29337564
I was there before /vyt/ when people talk about vtubers in /v/ before migrating to /jp/

>>29336992
It’s in large part shorts which we know pay fucking jack

>>29336992
This is how much LazuLight streamed last month, to the effect of 8 million views between them plus their backlog

>>29337502
>Hag finally gets to collab with a franchise she's played since forever
Happy for her, damn Sega and now Yokai watch. She's just living the dream.

>>29337747
they give exposure which can lead to an audience which lead to sales

>>29337613
500 is enough that with one or two sponsors streams a year (and maybe a month of dono chasing) you should be able to live comfortably.

>>29336627
Anon, I never said that I expected him to be anything; I said that his model fits his persona, which helps sell him to the audience. Scarle conversely got a model and personality that seem to be mutually exclusive to each other. Same with Anya and Kronii who seem to hate their booba models.

>>29336992
Nijis do shorts which do nothing if you have a large community like the one in Hololive which does it for you for free.

>>29337613
Anon, we've had accounts from actual fucking 2views who have lived the 2view life that 50 people is enough. 500 is ten times that number, of course you can live off of it.

>>29337631
They do actually approach streamers I follow a livestream podcast and they get various sponsors often (Manscaped, Red bull, etc). Sponsorship is just done a bit differently depending on the streamer. In Hololive and Nijisanji's cases they would have collaborations and dedicated streams which have much bigger payouts compared to a 60s-5min shill injection.

>>29337849
Hololive community does that for them for free. It's much more effective in marketing than the VOD cope that nijiniggers rely on.

>>29337849
>Shorts on channel
Vs
>Clips from external sources
I really do wonder what the engagement to the actual channel's streams and merch sales is like from shorts vs clips, but that sort of info is probably buried under too many layers of potential interference....

>>29337877
But the Hololive community is slowly moving to NijiEN, based on what Nijifans say.

>>29337790
only ~4 million is from streaming
https://www.vstats.jp/brands/10

>>29337659
This didn't happen. You made this up. I searched the archives and found no evidence of this.

>>29337564
Been here since the latter half of 2019-ish so immediately prior to the split.

>>29337503
She was streaming fairly regularly. Her throat destroying arcs have really damaged her. I have no idea why she's so frail.

>>29337920
Not that she would do it, but it would be quite funny if at the start of every stream Gura had to do a 1 min Raid Shadow Legends ad and she gets $5k each stream for it.

>>29337957
This is bullshit, though. Even Pomu, the most "Holo friendly" Niji get most of her audience from the Nijibox

>>29337935
That HoloCure for example made the people that don't even watch vtubers become aware of Hololive.
Hololive tends to support its community because of this while Nijisanji restricted theirs, even outright banned some fan works and clippers.

>>29337987
Jesus, so half of their views are from fucking shorts? I counted up the hours, Finana streamed for 90 hours last month. That's kind of insane

>>29337957
you mean nijiliars?

>>29337670
I haven't read that article but I did watch a YouTube video of a person's experience with Sponsors. They went into stuff like negotiating the pay, timed contracts where you can agree to inject Sponsor ads for a certain amount of months, priority/VIP treatment if you meat their size criteria etc.

>>29337483
there's no time limit so they're all talking until they run out of stuff to talk about.
his graduation stream is probably pre-recorded so he's probably doing this for at least 12-16 hours, maybe 24 if it goes long enough.

>>29337957
Nijifans kept on begging for the inclusion of nijiniggers into HoloCure.

>>29337877
>>29337935
Watame spoke positively about the reception to her girigiri series, but also that it doesn't really translate into a lot of people checking out other content. The benefits seem to be more about occupying mind space since people will remember you and anything YT does on the backend for recommendations.

>>29337502
oh that was the one lol, good for her

https://youtu.be/bB6F0jqGWyo
>Blocked your gold
>Sorry Mayu-kun, you are not us anymore

>>29337849
Well have their VoD views inclined after they started doing shorts?

>>29338090
NijiEN is already bigger than HoloCure. In fact, Power Pro is getting insane sales from many international fans due to the global success of Koshien.

>>29338062
I can see that happening she did a Internet Historian style ad of her just clowning around with the ad sponsorship.

>>29338140
>maybe 24 if it goes long enough
Mayu is actually never going to want to stream again after this lmfao
Going out with a bang.

>>29338150
I know this is bs but I giggled at the idea anyway haha

>>29337991
Nigger I’m a fucking member it was in the superchaat reading from her variety members stream. I watched it live.

>>29338192
Numbers?

Huh, Crunchyroll Expo is canceling Hololive appearance for an all-Luxiem panel. This is interesting.

>>29337920
When will CHaDcast get a HelloFresh sponsorship?

>>29338038
Girl is made out of paper. Along with her throat her shoulder bones can also pop out accidentally. Her jaw can also dislocate and get stuck if she opens her mouth too wide

>>29337502
>>29337813
Seems more than one person was waiting for it..
https://twitter.com/tsunomakiwatame/status/1552166006004785154