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>>29322334Graduation is the ultimate buff even more than debut. Besides, the 10 days break makes me thing that they have something under the sleeve
Is it just me or did the StarsEN just incline from Ren ending?
*YESTERDAY'S FINAL TALLY *>57,593: Maimoto (Nijisanji)>50,654: Subaru (Hololive)>38,638: Pekora (Hololive)>32,859: Sasaki (Nijisanji)>29,844: Salome (Nijisanji)>27,099: Yashiro (Nijisanji)>22,587: Fubuki (Hololive)>22,167: Mayuzumi (Nijisanji)>21,860: Laplus (Hololive)>20,795: Chloe (Hololive)>19,571: Lize (Nijisanji)>18,670: Patra (774 Inc.)>17,936: Mayuzumi (Nijisanji)>16,710: Shion (Hololive)>14,491: Suisei (Hololive)>13,803: Zotto (Nijisanji)>13,729: Subaru (Hololive)>13,574: Mio (Hololive)>13,390: Watame (Hololive)>12,270: Regis (Holostars)>12,116: Luca (Nijisanji)>11,784: Fauna (Hololive)>11,488: Koyori (Hololive)>11,251: Kronii (Hololive)>11,034: Mysta (Nijisanji)>10,658: Toko (Nijisanji)>10,612: Ryushen (Nijisanji)>10,351: Towa (Hololive)
>>29322289They should name the orisong for Gen 7 "Thriller".
>>29322237More people should invest in Kiara. She can speak DE/JP/EN. She would be BIG one day.
>>29322475NTA, but graduation matters if people care about you. If you're a nobody or irrelevant like Sana, only a fraction of the box will care.
>>29322538>JULY 2022 GOLDS1) Miko (Hololive) - 43,044 - HoloCure2) Subaru (Hololive) - 66,433 - Birthday stream3) AZKi (Hololive) - 74,504 - 3D birthday live4) Tsukasa (Indie) - 41,447 - Streamer league mahjong5) Mayuzumi (Nijisanji) - 57,985 - Meschers off-collab6) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - Drinking talk w/Laplus7) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - DQ11 casino w/Noel8) Salome (Nijisanji) - 37,023 - Unpacking9) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 164,013 - Koshien 2022 draft10) Shion (Hololive) - 48,313 - 1 million subs celebration totsumachi11) Pekora (Hololive) - 61,665 - Clubhouse 51 totsu12) Shiina (Nijisanji) - 49,387 - Niji Koshien practice13) Pekora (Hololive) - 70,402 - Uno collab w/Marine, Botan & Polka14) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 54,165 - Niji Koshien practice15) Natsume (Nijisanji) - 48,192 - 3D debut16) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 70,166 - Niji Koshien practice17) Pekora (Hololive) - 142,833 - 3rd anniversary 3D live18) Mel (Hololive) - 67,290 - 4th anniversary 3D live19) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 62,890 - Niji Koshien practice20) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 80,534 - Niji Koshien practice21) Towa (Hololive) - 69,696 - New outfit reveal22) Gwelu (Nijisanji) - 90,186 - 3D debut23) Luna (Hololive) - 52,218 - New outfit reveal24) Okayu (Hololive) - 64,102 - 3D live25) Ren (Nijisanji) - 90,269 - Debut stream26) Maimoto (Nijisanji) - 57,593 - Niji Koshien practice>PER COMPANY13x: Hololive12x: Nijisanji1x: Indie>PER STREAMER5x: Pekora2x: Ibrahim, Kuzuha1x: AZKi, Gwelu, Luna, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Mel, Miko, Natsume, Nijisanji, Okayu, Ren, Salome, Shiina, Shion, Subaru, Towa, Tsukasa>2022 GOLDS>PER COMPANY131x: Hololive66x: Nijisanji6x: Neo Porte3x: Indie1x: Kizuna AI Inc.>PER STREAMER23x: Pekora16x: Aqua, Salome14x: Kuzuha13x: Miko9x: Subaru6x: Hal5x: Kanata, Marine4x: Gura, Hololive, Mio, Okayu, Suisei, Toya3x: Chloe, Choco, Flare, Nijisanji, Towa2x: Ange, Fuwa, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Polka1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, AZKi, Botan, Chronoir, Debi, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Laplus, Luna, Maimoto, Masaru, Mayuzumi, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Noel, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sango, Shiina, Shion, Sora, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta
https://youtu.be/JXTn9XUdU-0The first Rust translated clip to get 100k
>>29322511Could be but they’re at a fun part in the game and they’re being hilarious
>>29322402Final /news/ roundup for 26-07-2022>>29267909 Recent clip numbers>>29251048 >>29251104 >>29248531 >>29248579
>>29322475so, what could be the "morpheus is fighting neo" moment?
>>29322684This desu, the tempus collabs have been fantastic
>>29322334Isn't Sana's graduation during JST? I'm actually confused as to what timeslot her graduation is at.>>29322567The funny thing to me is that despite being one of the smallest fanbases in EN, they're able to get Kiara invited to events and sponsors.
Sora's gonna pass 1 million subs by 10 AM PST tomorrow, I'm calling it now.
mayuzumi tom 500k+ ccv tik tok cocokeks
>>29322402JULY 2022 GOLDS1) Miko (Hololive) - 43,044 - HoloCure2) Subaru (Hololive) - 66,433 - Birthday stream3) AZKi (Hololive) - 74,504 - 3D birthday live4) Tsukasa (Indie) - 41,447 - Streamer league mahjong5) Mayuzumi (Nijisanji) - 57,985 - Meschers off-collab6) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - Drinking talk w/Laplus7) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - DQ11 casino w/Noel8) Salome (Nijisanji) - 37,023 - Unpacking9) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 164,013 - Koshien 2022 draft10) Shion (Hololive) - 48,313 - 1 million subs celebration totsumachi11) Pekora (Hololive) - 61,665 - Clubhouse 51 totsu12) Shiina (Nijisanji) - 49,387 - Niji Koshien practice13) Pekora (Hololive) - 70,402 - Uno collab w/Marine, Botan & Polka14) Pekora (Hololive) - 52,050 - Pekorone Mario Race15) Natsume (Nijisanji) - 48,192 - 3D debut16) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 70,166 - Niji Koshien practice17) Pekora (Hololive) - 142,833 - 3rd anniversary 3D live18) Mel (Hololive) - 67,290 - 4th anniversary 3D live19) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 62,890 - Niji Koshien practice20) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 80,534 - Niji Koshien practice21) Towa (Hololive) - 69,696 - New outfit reveal22) Gwelu (Nijisanji) - 90,186 - 3D debut23) Luna (Hololive) - 52,218 - New outfit reveal24) Okayu (Hololive) - 64,102 - 3D live25) Ren (Nijisanji) - 90,269 - Debut stream26) Maimoto (Nijisanji) - 57,593 - Niji Koshien practice>PER COMPANY14x: Hololive11x: Nijisanji1x: Indie>PER STREAMER6x: Pekora2x: Kuzuha1x: AZKi, Gwelu, Luna, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Mel, Miko, Natsume, Nijisanji, Okayu, Ren, Salome, Shiina, Shion, Subaru, Towa, Tsukasa, Ibrahim
Is Ame the one EN holo that you can prove without a doubt has reclined past any cull explanation? Like she keeps getting worse numbers.
>>29322651Can't watame do anything other than minecraft and talk talk talk talk all day?
>>29322402*FINAL GAIJIN TALLY OF THE DAY*>14,072: Ren (Nijisanji)>12,283: Regis (Holostars)>12,116: Luca (Nijisanji)>11,784: Fauna (Hololive)>11,322: Kronii (Hololive)>11,042: Mysta (Nijisanji)>9,995: Shu (Nijisanji)>9,254: Aster (Nijisanji)>9,084: Axel (Holostars)>8,704: Maria (Nijisanji)>8,530: Kyo (Nijisanji)>8,249: Kaela (Hololive)>7,566: Kobo (Hololive)>7,504: Magni (Holostars)>7,492: Aia (Nijisanji)>7,251: Ike (Nijisanji)>7,133: Mori (Hololive)>6,445: Selen (Nijisanji)>6,064: Ike (Nijisanji)>5,374: Scarle (Nijisanji)>5,301: Baelz (Hololive)>5,131: Anya (Hololive)>5,112: Amelia (Hololive)>GAIJIN GOLD SO FAR FOR JULY1. Mumei (Hololive) - 18,378 (I'm on Observation Duty 5 w/Fauna)2. Ina (Hololive) - 22,039 (Return Stream)3. Luca (Nijisanji) - 26,367 (600k sub celebration unarchived karaoke)4. Mumei (Hololive) - 22,338 (HoloCure: Save the Fans)5. Kobo (Hololive) – 22,212 (Getting Over It)6. Gura (Hololive) - 32,780 (HoloCure: Save the Fans)7. Kiara (Hololive) - 36,856 (3D Birthday concert)8. Gura (Hololive) - 19,070 (I am Fish)9. Kobo (Hololive) – 12,130 (Rock Simulator)10. Lily (Cloud Horizon) – 21,623 (Graduation ceremony)11. IRyS (Hololive) - 23,882 (1st Anniversary Celebration)12. Sana (Hololive) – 22,793 (Graduation announcement)13. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 14,315 (Reviewing viewer dishes)14. Mysta (Nijisanji) – 21,552 (Genshin Impact gacha)15. Kobo (Hololive) – 14,834 (Golf It! w/Mori)16. Kronii (Hololive) – 16,001 (Dark Deception)17. Vox (Nijisanji) - 13,352 (RP ASMR)18. Selen (Nijisanji) - 18,215 (Obsydia 1 year anniversary celebration)19. Mumei (Hololive) - 25,551 (Anatomy review w/Calli and Sana)20. Vox (Nijisanji) - 13,804 (The Sims 4 making Iluna House)21. Mumei (Hololive) - 41,318 (Council & IRyS 3D debut)22. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 13,707 (Comeback)23. Magni (Holostars) - 43,574 (Debut)24. Noir (Holostars) - 35,649 (Debut)25. Ren (Nijisanji) - 90,269 (Debut)26. Ren (Nijisanji) - 14,072 (Debut 2.0)>GOLD PER COMPANYHolopro - 16Nijisanji – 9Others - 1>GOLD PER STREAMER4x: Mumei3x: Kobo, Mysta2x: Gura, Vox, Ren1x: Ina, Luca, Kiara, Lily, IRyS, Sana, Kronii, Selen; Magni, Noir
More Niji trash is graduating. Good Riddance to Niji garbage.
>>29322636Yeah but fucking Bora got like 50k and she was in a dying and irrelevant KR branch.
That's a pretty weak totsu from Mayuzumi, when coco did her last totsu, I saw it went above 400k ccv for the whole stream duration.
>>29322777Depends on the chuuba herself. Despite being dead Kizuna Ai had many sponsors too.
>>29322886Shut the fuck upAlso Bae is absolutely fucked if Tempus maintains its viewership in the future
>>29322825Definitely yes.
>>29322767I was coming into this debut with no expectations and they honestly blew me out of the water. They’re fucking great, even Regis who’s been showing a lot more “flavor” after his initial debut. Just a set of really grounded people who want to make something for themselves
>>29322867>SILVER PER COMPANYHolopro - 18Nijsanji - 7Others - 0>SILVER PER STREAMER5x: Kobo3x: Gura2x: Vox, Luca, Mori, Baelz, Regis1x: Uki, Mysta, Mumei, Amelia, IRyS, Kiara, Axel, Aster>BRONZE PER COMPANYHolopro - 19Nijsanji - 7Others – 0>BRONZE PER STREAMER4x: Ina3x: Kobo, Mumei2x: Amelia, Kronii, Luca1x: Shu, Kiara, Fauna, Mori, Moona, Petra, Uki, Fulgur, Magni, Aia>MEDAL COUNTMumei: 8 (4-1-3)Kobo: 11 (3-5-3)Mysta: 4 (3-1-0)Gura: 5 (2-3-0)Vox: 4 (2-2-0)Ren: 2 (2-0-0)Luca: 5 (1-2-2)IRyS: 2 (1-1-0)Kiara: 3 (1-1-1)Ina: 5 (1-0-4)Kronii: 3 (1-0-2)Magni: 2 (1-0-1)Lily: 1 (1-0-0)Sana: 1 (1-0-0)Selen: 1 (1-0-0)Noir: 1 (1-0-0)Mori: 3 (0-2-1)Baelz: 2 (0-2-0)Regis: 2 (0-2-0)Amelia: 3 (0-1-2)Uki: 2 (0-1-1)Axel: 1 (0-1-0)Aster: 1 (0-1-0)Shu: 1 (0-0-1)Fauna: 1 (0-0-1)Moona: 1 (0-0-1)Petra: 1 (0-0-1)Fulgur: 1 (0-0-1)Aia: 1 (0-0-1)
What's Mayu's current SC in this stream?
https://youtu.be/RcBSYf4Ql2gLet's see if she can get 8k ccv again or not
>>29322908Are you pretending to be retarded?
>>29322908Nips hate trannies.
>>29322825She's been doing her best for almost two years to reach this point, I'm glad that she has finally reached her goal
>>29322932>Also Bae is absolutely fucked if Tempus maintains its viewership in the futureWhy?
>>29322908its not even his last stream
>>29322932Why?
>>29322825How about Bae? One more JP week and she will be the next Finana.
>>29322825One step closer to become the last teamate
what's with the low effort baits.
People do not understand that HoloEN is full of actual GFE panderers who emotionally abuse and manipulate their audiences. This kind of parasocial exploitation will never do big numbers, since it filters out people who aren't willing to take it, but it creates extremely loyal schizos. Even Gura does this with her memberships. It's a textbook cycle: Love bomb, exploit, neglect, repeat
>>29322886Kai is one of their pillars. He doesn't get consistent high viewerships but he's quite important for the group nonetheless.
>>29322951Around $21k last time I checked
>>29322951
>>29322932All girls are fucked since after 1h ban shit is over males will stream literally 5x more embarrassing all of them.
Crunchyroll expo, um how big is this?
>>29322989These shitters are getting 4k-6k on extreme overlap that’s why
>more debuts>more graduationsIsn't this the perfect formula to get numbers?
>>29322908Only 86k for a graduation stream just shows that nobody cares about more graduations from Niji trash. If anything they are happy there is one less Nijikek in this world to harass Hololive talents and make vtubing a more toxic landscape. Less Nijikeks are a net positive for vtubing.
>>29322825She had over 5k earlier, which is better than Rat and Clock have right now.She's about to start ER though so we'll see how that goes for comparison
>>29322402
>>29323127Aint no fucking way. Holy shit it’s not even his grad stream
>>29323127j-jesas
>>29323074Are teammates really loyal? Is there anyone in hlgg that is willing to defend Ame?
>>29322932I think Bae is more fucked if she becomes a frequent collab partner, the new guys are showing just how much better entertainers they are than her.
>>29323155That would be the peak of ACCELERATION tactic
>>29323194
>>29323106Well he can't be that important since I've never heard of him. Also.....>himManjisanji, of fucking course.
>>29322983>>29323009Are you blind or something? I compared his totsu to Coco's totsu, and Coco got 400k watching her live. For a mid-tier with more or less the same amount of contribution to their company as Coco, this is pretty weak ngl.
>>29323150It's shaping up to be the biggest vtuber convention outside Japan.
How the fuck are they still playign this game after 4 hours and how the fuck does Fauna still have 8k people
>>29323127The power of Nijibox
>>29323188She's on right now, 2.8k and inclining but slowly
>>29323250Noone but her most loyal teamates
>Regis trying to pull gay jokes with Magni>Magni absolutely not having itI feel Regis will be the first one to collab with Luxiem or Shoto from Tempus
>>29323127JESAS
>>29322825Bae, Kiara.
>>29323296Fauna sounds super tired, at this point she's just on because Gura is
>>29323127
>>29323329That's obvious. He was already friends with Shoto in his PL
>>29323296Bot
>>29323250Anon, that thread was completely trash for almost 2 hours just because Ame wasn't playing Rust with them until Ame said that she didn't even install the game, Teamates are the most loyal HoloEN fanbase by far because she has been debuffing herself so much for so long that only the people that REALLY love her still keep up with all her random shit
>>29323326That's like, 5 people total across the globe, maybe?
>>29323127is all that going to him or is Riku taking like 80% of it like the greedy fuck he is
>>29323329Isn't Regis already in Shoto's circle in PL
>>29323217Welcome to Niji superchats.
>>29323329Regis and shoto are in the same twitch circle so yeah
>>29323127Is Coco's SC record beatable?The stream should be at least 10 hrs.
its over holobros...
>>2932312722k like...tourist............
>>29322840Yes, she can sing happy birthday
>>29323127Fun Fact, Mayuzumi was a money making machine through merch alone because he would rarely have superchats turned on in his channel. He would donate most of those proceeds to charity. None of this is surprising.
>>29323217i heard he never open sc before..so its not surprising
>>29322402Tempus week one schedule
>>29323194>cope hoursah yes the nr 2 most popular vtuber, Ars Almael
>>29321593Im pretty sure it has to do with chinese viewers. The NijiENs that gets the Z are the ones with female chinese viewers. The only times the female NijiENs that stream NA primetime get Zs is when they collab with the males or have gotten a big raid
>>29323250Almost all of Ame's GFE stuff is locked behind membership, for a while she intentionally kept grey fags out of the loop schedule wise so only her members knew when she was streaming.You have to understand that early on, Teamates were the most unloyal fanbase and kept finding new "waifus" like Uto and the other Nabi faces.
>>29323296>How the fuck are they still playign this game after 4 hoursThey are having fun. >how the fuck does Fauna still have 8k peopleFauna incline was not a meme
>>29323272I am surprised not many company using this tactic. It is a good practice to inflate your overall numbers.
>>29323194ARS LOVE
>>29323516Iluna week one schedule
>>29322636Even a shitter like Mellisa got 100k+, why do you thing a holoEN can't get that, she will get 150k+ min, you are just scare she can't get that or something?
>>29323522ars i kneel, only beaten in popularity by pekora
>>29323532It's Taiwanese VNP.
>>29323380Omegay should implement 1hour stream restriction across all EN to prevent burn out.
>>29323516Axel’s debut schedule is really really bad
>>29321101>>28902478When Z realized that they lose potential source of ad they bought niji share to shill their product. Soon it will become like holywood. The attack on hololive happening are because of them, since they can't own they must be destroyed mentality. No i don't blame niji at all
>>293236511 hour a day minimum, you mean
Rust stream is ending. Floodgates are going to be open soon
>>29323595Because Hololive doesn't have the same tourism reach. The Holobox is just smaller overall compared to Nijisanji's events, and it's more disconnected as well, holofans will not watch a Graduation stream of a side branch whore who never streamed.
>only need 1 hour to talk to all the members of Hololive while a niji needs 8 hours to talk to 60 members of nijiJP
Release the funnel Goob.
>>29323541>grooming her fanbase this wayJesus Ame is scary.
>>29323662but Iluna is bad in general
>>29323284He's sort of like Mio in that he helped organize shit and has a lot of reach with a ton of members.
>>29323516Why out of all of these, the scrapping Old PC the thing in most excited for?
>>29323592Doll has a good schedule. Hope she makes it. Fuck Rosemi btw.
funnel incoming
>>29323493Sounds basedHe can have these 2 days
>>29323783because it's kino
>>29323783It's unique. But he's gonna cancel it if he gets Zomboid perms.
>>29323592Ren has a good schedule. I expect 10k for Minecraft
>>29323522>Ars AlmaelThe streamer that got ECG numbers like Ibrahim?
1k waiting for that latina1k...
>>29323811>inb4 more funnel to magni instead of ame
>>29323458Yes it totally is.Even then it was "just" double what had become the 2nd highest SC, while being double in length.To throw the asterisk that Coco got more than 500k$ in that day with all the messages in the free chat, but 306k$ is the number we got.Same way Jun had over 2.6Million$ from what the anons keeping track said, but Playboard recorded 1.8Mil$.
>>29323783It's something new and shiny you haven't seen before from a chuba
Which HoloENs DON'T do members only GFE?
>>29323756I'm being entirely serious when I say this: Ame is the most likely to pull the stunt of 'just become a mengen only streamer, fuck the grayfags from ever seeing a thing' out of all of Hololive. She would do it too if her management let her, she doesn't give a FUCK.
>>29323516>>29323592Ngl, Iluna has the much better schedule.
>>29323878oh holy fuck I thought she still had an hour left before her stream startedjesus christ I kept saying dead in the water but not like this
>>29323662Japanese stream seems interesting, the noir collab will be kino, but yeah it’s just pretty mediocre.
>>29323878MAGGED
>the second the funnel begins, Magni launches into southern preacher mode during his loading screenI fucking love these dorks and hope HomoEN really gets to carve out a niche by the end of this.
>>29323329>Regis trying to pull gay jokes with MagniPls tell me you're joking ... And if you're not, how bad was it?
>>29323910Bae, Mori, SanaEvery other EN does it to some extent. Kiara is a step below Ame in this regard
>>29323976I mean, Gura would probably do the same if she was allowed it's not a secret that Gura absolutely hates her greyfags.
Illegal funnel to Kronii.
>>29323910Fauna doesn't.The best you get is her getting on a topic and ranting about it enthusiastically, like her 30 minute breaking bad tangent.
Gura/Fauna ended, Funnel time
>>29323879Hey don't shitpost with Ars. She's a good girl. Her numbers aren't high enough for the ECG shit to matter anyways.
>>29323976>mengen only streamerBruh not even Rushia can do that even though she seems to have more loyal schizo following her around than Ame.
>>29323747>>29323754>>29323811>Switching to another stream after 4 hoursThere will be barely any funnel, everyone's going to sleep
>>29323289Calling Cocos 3D live graduation a fucking totsu is retarded.
>>29324068It was prison jokes nothing Luxiem tier
>>29323592Oh, so they went with Elira's Pico Park suggestion for the collab.>>29323786writing that down>Marie peggs Rosemi with a mechanical penis appendage.
EN3 is going to fucking destroy everyone but Gura, Ina and Fauna isn't it? Look at these Bae/Kronii/AME overlap numbers.Inb4>w-well they can get 5-7k if everyone else endsNot gonna be a factor with 5 more bitches invading NA slot.
>>29323755>didn't talk to all members
>>29324065AMEN BROTHER!!
https://youtu.be/RcBSYf4Ql2gWE GONNA SEE A POSSIBLE 9-10K TODAY??
>>29324167Coco can't speak bug anon
>>29324144>isn't it?It's not.
>>29324144I am friends with Kiara irl and she told me EN3 is likely going to be a euro branch. Management was asking her if she had any "qualified" friends interested in joining.
>>29324144I'm pretty happy that Fauna has inclined so hard that people think she's the #3 in HoloEN. I'm not 100% sure it's true, but it's a good sign for her anyway.
>>29324095Kronii is really Gura-lite huh
ILLEGAL
>>29324068Not enough to be awkwardBut enough to notice Magni is not here to fujo pandering...for now
Numbers!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLwPSZqEiaoEndurance exercise until 145 viewers
>>29323541hi, former teamate here, i don't watch ame regularly anymore because i don't the have time but this poster is retarded and nothing he says is true.
>>29324094I mean, at least for her she's said its due to nerves over streaming to such a large audience, yes even after all this time. So less "greyfag hate" and more "oh gods there's so many people whyyyyyyyyyy"
>>29324253>Overlap doesn’t matte-
>>29324241Its not that she's nr, it's that Gura/Ina/Fauna have really fucking loyal viewers.
>>29324237My dad works for Cover and he told me I get to be in Stars gen 2.
>>29323811There is no funnel. Maybe 10% of the audience, max. Chumbuds only watch Gura because she has completely isolated herself from the rest of the box
>>29324241For all intents and purposes she's tied with Mumei as the 3.
>>29323786I really hope so too. I dont want to see another good design go to waste
>>29323194>>29323522Womanjisanji incliningKing mogged
honestly no a lot of people actually care about sana so her graduation stream would probably be gura's birthday tier at best and irys anniversary at worst
>>29324068>gay jokesit's fucking prison jokes
Why the fuck is Pippa getting 550 viewers for a zatsu?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEtfhpFUQic
>>29324267wtf..what is that design
>literally zero funnel to Magni Yeah im thinking Holostars has its own little 5k box thats goes up to 10k with buff content, tourists, and nips.
Selen...
>>29324301Even in JP overlap only hold 2-3k people too hostage based on the funnel. But I guess 2k people is a lot for crippletally so it matters more here.
>>29322798retard
>>29324267I feel bad for her. She carrying 2 watamelons all the time
I L L E G A L
>>29324388irl accurate
>>29324415Holobronies in shambles...
>c-chumbuds don't watch other streamersit seems to me like 80% of the EN fanbase is propped up by people who prefer to watch Gura first
>>29324409I want to see Vox or Mysta stream overlaps with Tempus to see whether they share audiences or not.
>>29324230She did learn Chinese in the past because she fell for the "2nd most spoken language" meme
>>29324382Pippa has been a 500+ streamer for a while. Also, zatsu is literally buff content for her, she always goes off on entertaining tangents and rants.
>>29324335>less subs than Mumei>less streamed hours than Mumei>worse average ccv than Mumei>"For all intents and purposes she's tied with Mumei"???
>>29324382Some people like Pippa, I'd watch her but she keeps streaming over HoloEN streams so I can't watch, but that's what she gets for using Holo related stuff go get viewer advantage
Jesus, beating out TWICE of all people, even if it's just in Japan I kneel, blue comet
WHERE DID THE FUNNEL GO?
>>29324478Also helps that she is in the finally
>>29324409They have the homobox and homobeggar box. We see them damage Mori and Bae.
>>29324124Because it's a totsu + concert. Anycolor can't even do a simple pre-recorded video talking with all the members?
>>29324382Romanian TVee successfully shilled her.
>>29324558Scroll up
>>29323053ok, and once you're the last teamate? what then?
>>29324267How the fuck does she even live with those. Also her educational shorts are actually kind of fun.
>>29324532>Perfume #1Hags strong
>>29324230She did learn a bit, she can even read it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkCC_r8cpYo
You get the point by now
>>29324124>>29323755It's a totsu
And these motherfuckers pretty much untouched
>>29324532If you are a singer, the most important thing is to get under the right label, and Suisei made it because of hololive. Others more talented people should rot in the gutter because they can't find any label at all.
>>29324497They already have. There was no overlap.
>>29322908>jp that never streams>literal who krs>literal who outside vtuber (no really, who?)it can only go up
Kronii still fending off the homos, Ame and Bae need to graduate.
>>29324388>>29324470She has huge tits irl. Check out this video from her channel of her playing Night of Nights on a recorderhttps://youtu.be/w4NB7PLSrVg
>>29324700NEW VIEWERS!!! THAT'S A GOOD THING!
>>29324409the 1 hour stream limit unironically helped. it encourages people to watch or check out everyone in the group.
>chumbuds are more in the box than nousagiWildrabbit-tachi not like this.
>Gura and Fauna viewers don't go into homo streamsyeah no shit lads.
>>29323866Didn't Botan already play Zomboid?
>>29324799Hey Fauna shilled them twice, there would be a small chance.
>>29324519Some people just look at a single data point and draws stupid conclusion.
>>29324722Oh I see. So there are really people genuinely interested in homoEN only.
>>29324799and that's a good thing.
>>29324730Yeah seems he will go until the hour limit for this. The first NijiJP (Mugi) just called in and is already past 1 hour
>>29324700Possbile new audience? Check the overlap in the Regis stream:https://vrabi.net/video/yPElRWsqxQg
>>29323541she had like 1 gfe stream anon, and she's never done it again.
>>29324799after a 4 hour stream, I'm surprised people moved at all
>>29324770yes the burnout is more about the audience than the streamer during the intro periodtheres also something to imposing arbitrary limits for the talent to battle them, its obviously good if theyre able to blame management for all their problems
>>29323127>>29323452>>29323217>>29323309>>29323226>>29323422>>29323480>>29323493That's a shitpost, anons. He didn't even bothered removing the "#fall guys" tag when he edited that page. Moreover, I can't find it on Playboard, and Hololyzer definitely isn't showing 100k+ (he is at 5M yen on Hololyzer right now)https://www.hololyzer.net/2j3j/realtime/superchat/zEhtnivG1hs.html
>>29324799Something something all EN girls are GFE of different flavours for the unicorns.
>>29324489Selen is honorary holo?
Lmfao, Hololive EN without Gura is a fucking joke
>>29324888yaguruma is a jp (that almost never streams)
>>29324888>The first NijiJPkek, is the glasses girl from earlier that much of a who?
>>29324700Hey, them having their own box is a good thing, since it's not cannibalization. Do have to take into account though that Gura does have a high proportion of people there just for CGDCT in her audience though. No clue about Fauna's audience though I'd think it's similar.
>>29324593You heard of grooming 2views?
>>29324913Guess that explains Mumei's lower numbers tonight
>>29324700nah they had a 400-600 bump from the funnel
>>29324971Fauna's Unicorn forest...My sister actually is infatuated with Fauna and was annoyed at the Holostars debuts and was hoping she didn't interact with them beause of her hatred for Luxiem and Mysta/Vox in particular. Her words were literally "I can't fucking believe Vox and Mysta made me into a Unicorn"
>>29324799Fauna shilled them in a members only, so having zero overlap is pretty funny.
>>29324961didn't even bother, w/e, my brain is falling asleep
>>29324495>all of EN surviving off Gura's gachikois.No wonder she's being so careful about males.
As Gura said once "The void consumes all"
>>29324913>>29325091Mumei only has high overlap because she had a big event stream on her channel recently (Sana smol 3d)
>>29324848Shilled how? Because unless you broadcast intent to collab with them, you don't need to be Gura tier "look away when arurandis' names comes up", just give some token acknowledgement your fans will call unity and you'll be fine (and no one will care).
>>29324495Kek, Gura is the embodiment of the Pareto principle.
>>29324993I'm joking that it's Niji that play a pony game, instead of Holo
>>29324961You have go to Mayuzumi page on Playboard and click on 'most superchatted' to show the streamhttps://playboard.co/en/channel/UCb5JxV6vKlYVknoJB8TnyYg/videos?sortTypeId=30
>>29325086That's a pretty small and diffused funnel if I've ever seen one.I hate how chumbuds never really function as a proper funnel. 20k viewers mostly disappearing instantaneously.
>>29325090Sugoi... a western female unicorn holy shit. Then again Gura has quite a few of them too.
>>29324799I did, there's a few of us
>>29324861Well they don't call /#/ the smartest thread on /vt/ for no reason.
Did you people forget that HoloEN does in fact have female viewers? Those will probably leave the EN girls behind for the boys now. That's where the audience comes from, it's technically still cannibalization just of females instead of males
>>29325182It's very obvious Gura doesn't care about Hololive or Cover's interests in expanding Stars. She's completely isolated herself and is only collabing with people who are essentially ignoring all collabs with Stars. Wonder what would happen if she reclined and Stars inclined? Think she would monkey branch to them to keep her audience?
and the award for longest fucking rule infodump goes to...
>>29325099Gura even paranoid about mentioning her irl brother in her childhood story.
>>29325244Man that stream was 4 hours long, maybe people are just calling it a night? I'd bet that stream length is certainly negatively correlated with a funnel
>>29325354Holy DOAThis bitch is speedrunning 2views
scarle's chat is pretty much all girls (and/or faggots) talking holy shit
>>29325050not gonna happen while she is in hololive and under a manager, but you'll certainly be groomed by her into accepting anything she does and smiling at tempus collabs.
>>29325354i aint read that shit
>>29325314Females? On the internet?
>>29325341>Gura>caring about increasing or keeping numbersAre you some sort of homo newfag?
>>29324415>ponytownWTFkek
>>29325411I mean shes got 5k at least. Maybe theres that many fujos who relate to her.
>>29325354What a fucking waste of sex design
>>29325354why look at the wall on the left when there are two things to stare at right next to it
>>29325243Huh, interesting. It didn't show up when I checked earlier on "Newest". I guess because the stream isn't over yet?Wonder why is Hololyzer and Playboard showing such massively different numbers, though. Does Hololyzer not count waiting room's SC?
>>29325245I do believe some of the girls female fans are unicorns, and they are way more dangerous than male ones lol
https://twitter.com/yokai_punipuni/status/1552124388367306752Has anyone mentioned this already? Hololive has a game collab event with Yokai Watch Puni Puni featuring Fubuki, Watame, Okayu, Korone, Pekora, Miko, Marine, and Botan
>>29325354holy mucho texto, she turned rules that can be one sentence and turned them into paragraphs
>>29325354
>>29325475nijibronies... so nijinigs were the bronies all along
Hahaha holy fuck, Niji EN legitimately has a bigger viewership than Holo EN right now. Fucking pathetic
>>29325207I'm too lazy to Google that, can you give me a rundown on that Pareto principle?
>>29325354jesas fuck what is this shit. I mean yes, this all makes sense and it should be bashed into the heads of viewers, none of it is particularly unreasonable but why the hell is she infodumping it like this instead of just talking about it.
>>29325091Which one? I haven't checked out her member videos in forever but I'd like to go have a look
>>29325090What a rather odd turn of events....Then again the phrase CUTE IS JUSTICE exists for a reason...
>>29325534yep, someone posted it in the previous thread
>>29325534What game is that? Gacha?
>>29325531Female unicorns have always been more dangerous than male ones. I mean, have you see how insane K-pop fans are especially when it comes to stalking and fan wars?
>>29325354That kiss emoji surely makes all the rules dump feel nice.Does nijis need to be educated like this?
>>29325468It's very obvious she does, otherwise she wouldn't trying so hard to pander with GFE in her members' stream to keep her gachis. She's literally Rushia 2.0 in the making
>>29325244the full funnel 20k gura + 8k faunaKronii +1000Magni +700Ame +1700Bae +1000
>>29325645Low quality Pokémon
>>29325616It was the members only right before their debuts. It was just your standard "please watch their debut and support them" boiler plate message.
>>29325354Those rules are fair and nothing strange, but did she really feel the need to waste her time showing those on stream? Tardwrangling is good, but this might be overdoing it
>>29325354these are all pretty standard rules desu
>>29325583Did you crawl out of your cave to say that the moment Gura and Fauna ended? If so please go back.
>>29325575I mean, they were the ones spamming their thing on unsolicited places since the begging just like when horses got banned from the whole site.
>>29325583Fauna, Mumei, and Gura literally just held 30k+ people hostage over the course of 4 fucking hours. It's almost 1am on the east coast. People are going to bed, unlike NIJIEN's primary SEA/CN audience who are either just fucking waking up because they're neets or are watching at work
>>29325583You're actually pathetic, I know you know it deep inside.
>>29325531Probably just comes with the territory, they're watching anime girls for a reason after all. Fuck I know there's some that get pissed when they collab with other girls since they get jealous
>>29325647Yeah but female unicorns for a female vtuber sounds funny.
>>29325583Literally less than only Gura on a multiple POV collab
>>29325713chumbuds please watch the rest of holoEN...
>>29323145>All girls are fucked since after 1h ban shit is over males will stream literally 5x more embarrassing all of them.What's the reasoning for the one hour limit in the first place?
Holobros... we're losing to that niji with the big breasts...
>>29325926No
>>29325858Lesbians, bisexuals and girls that are just really really into cute things are a thing after all. I know I've seen a fair few deranged female idolfags, not chuubas but similar kind of deal.
>>2932558319887 [Niji, 4 people] vs 15050 [Holo, 3 people] vs 6483 [Holostars, collab]Ogey?
>>29325926Fuck off, not a single stream started when they ended, I'm not going to jump into the middle of a stream I have no idea what the fuck is happening I'm just going to rewatch Gura's VoDs instead.
https://youtu.be/oBrIeqHqkoc?t=7160gura about to get canceled
>>29325713>there are 1.7k chumbuds willing to watch Ame than councilSomething something council failure.
>>29325945Nowa-oji said management told them that it is to "prevent burnout"
>>29325951HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHALITERALLY LOSING TO ILUNA LMFAO
>>29325785Got a link to the Korone Golden Eggs parody?
>>29326041I meanIt's fucking Bae with Cat game and Kronii with Kirby #5?
>>29325951looks like kaela is about to mog nijien again
>>29325341I see Gura has finally accomplished her goal of becoming Aqua by having collab beggar schizos hate on her for only collabing with people shes comfortable withwe just need another iofi event for her to get blamed for cumbuds harassing other holos like aqua got with china!
>>29325926kronii - kirby, gura already finished that gameame - elden ring, yeah nobae - stray, gura played itmagni - a way out, can't possibly top gurame play-through
>>29325354tldr
Fun fact, Bae has the lowest viewership of all EN streamers at the moment playing Stray, a buff game
>>29325534don't care. dead game. dead franchise.
>>29326148>StrayGura AND Fauna and Fauna actually beat it
>>29325945To prevent burnouts. Just look at the girl right now. Mumei stream a little bit more than 1 hour and was already on her death bed so she ended the stream early. Fauna able to stream for 4 hours with her nature's blessing but still feels pretty tired from her stream. EN people just can't work hard.
>>29325341kys homobeggar
>>29326029literally magni's stream
>>29326165Cat is a debuff to rat.
>>29326165Since when has Stray been a buff game? That shit has always been Debuff, and it's way more Debuff after everyone and their mother has played it
>>29325645zoomer pokemon
>>29325624>CIJ
>>29326120Hello? Is Elden Ring any better?
>>29326258should have looked for a better rat simulator game
>>29326095https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpRBIOdFntY
Ame back 5.1k, back to healthy numbers.
>>29326263Didn't Ina get 20k+ playing it?
>>2932559680% of consequences come from 20% of causes (or according to our context it would become 80% of the viewers come from 20% of streamers)
>>29326165>buffit's being spammed to death by everyone. only a buff if you're one of the very first ones to stream it.
>>29325534>>29322739
>>29326296>Is Elden Ring, a game where you kill things and Ame has memed her way through, any better than something people have been seeing all fucking week or Kirby #89457349854Yes
>>29326327Are you fuckin' stupid? She caught a fat funnel from a full council collab smol 3D stream
>>29326263First stream is a buff, anything after is a debuff.
>>29326322"Healthy" 5.1k lmfao. When 2k of that is Gura's leftoversMyth and Council really are all orbiters
>>29326296It's ame, the girl who literally visited gura for her birthday
>>29325951Luca is this months FOTM Luxiem, its okay. It alternates between Mysta, Vox, and Luca.
>>29326336Ohhhh naruhodo
>>29326315>comic sans subs just like the only available subs for the real serieskek
On an unrelated note. Bae has "caught back up" with Fauna and they're both at 590k subs. Fauna clearly still has a lead and will 100% tick to 591 a lot faster than Bae and maybe even further after 4 hours of streaming once clips start coming out.
>>29326208EN really needs a Kaela or Koyori
Noir has 800 people waiting while the collab is still going. Is he going to peak higher than the two povs?
>>29325926Nah, that was a long stream and I'm sleepy. Gonna dream of Gura's plump ass smothering my face.
>>29326540If Noir hits 8k again its time to accept hes the star of Tempiss and not Magfag
>>29326504This will never happen because westoids have shit work ethics.
>>29326504isn't that just kiara?
>>29326504That was IRyS, but too bad she is only half-JP so eventually she succumbed to her EN half and got throat hort after a few months
>>29326409>Myth and Council really are all orbitersIf they’re orbiters than wtf is tempiss
>>29325951Kronii is reading superchats. The one person who lost to this debut buffed woman is Bae, who yeah has begun to pull NijiEN numbers.
>>29326381You do you. For me Elden Ring is getting boring after the first month.
>>29326500They would have been at 1M by now if not for Susans bullshit culls that wiped out like 400k subs.
>>29322786Yup, pinned post on the subreddithttps://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/w94wl0/tokino_sora_celebrates_1000000_subscribers/
What did astel delete?
Is gold pretty much decided?
Looks like Tempus is going to be around Noctyx tier. Not too shabby.
>>29325926Fuck off, I'm sick of the 3 games these girls have chosen to stream and I just watched 4 hours of Gura.
>>29326680Tempus literally built their own box.
>>29326705jesas, I didn't notice
>>29326718Yep, both EN and JP. I am just gonna spend the rest of the night watching Tempiss.
>>29326680Entertaining
>>29325926I watched her for four hour already, I have to sleep and go to work.
>>29326682Did she actually finish the game? It says final in the title.
>>29325926only watch gura and luna, sometimes peko
>>29326722Much better than I would've ever expected from a StarsEN launch.
>>29326409Numbers are numbers Anon, if 2k of those people went to Ame and pushed her to 5k even though she was playing elder ring for the 20th time then that means people just prefer to watch Ame over whatever other streamer that's currently streaming out there, so it holds weight, just like some of those same viewers went to Kronii with Kirby or with Magni.
>>29326228...
>>29326228Magni's stream is a part 2 you fucking idiot
W*men on mag stream... The numbers will tank
>>29326598I really think that Magni is better solo or with Axel
Did Kaela catch a funnel? She's grinding quartz for Gura.
>>29326786>>29326705I just checked, karaokes are missing, I remember he talked about moving the archives to member only as incentive, might be that
>>29326786is he going menhera again
>>29326859What I mean is, none of these people are going to be watching her if Gura isn't streaming. If your 50% of your average ccv is reliant on shark not streaming over you, you do not have a healthy audience
>>29326836Yes>>29325926They do, as you can see Gura generously donates an entire Bae monthly average to others
https://youtu.be/3phaXN_FjiEThis thing grew by 40k ish in the last 24h. No idea why the algo started pushing it so much again.
>>29326705Moved a bunch of his vods to membership
>>29326722>implyingNoctyx averages like 3k ccv and the only one who consistently gets 4-5k is Alban and occasionally Uki. Sonny and Yugo are 2k shitters and I forget who the 5th member is so I doubt he is relevant. Luxiem averages like 7k ccv (thanks to Ike and sometimes Shoe pulling down the numbers, Vox/Mysta/Luca average like 9-10k). I think they will be right smack in the middle of Noctyx and Luxiem at around 5k average. 3k -> 5k -> 7k
>>29327036You WILL watch the shark speak broken Japanese
>>29326999We just need 5 Guras in EN3 and the market will exploded. vtubing in the west will finally surpass fleshstreaming.
>>29326965 (me)see this karaoke for examplehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3axBqxQqzEM
>>29327036yeah youtube told me to click the video and i did again
>>29327036>another 40k growthjesas
>>29327071We're still in debut week buff, it'll settle just like Noctyx did.
>>29327071>, Vox/Mysta/Luca average like 9-10k)Don't you fucking dare put Luca on that fucking tier when half of his "inclines" have been fucking Z's
>>29327036got it like 10 hours ago on my recommended
>>29316331Yo these girls are damn good!
>>29327036I still get it recommended, it's like the only video from hers that constantly gets recommended to me
>>29327136>>29327036same
Kaela have more ccv than bae.
>>29322840Watch streams.
>>29327222>The Action LabShit taste. Nothing is interesting beyond >lmao vacuum chamber.
>>29327036YOU WILL WATCH DUOLINGO
>>29327071I'm just lowballing because there's still some debut buff. It's not like 3k is bad for Holostars anyways considering our initial expectation was hoping they'll beat Finana.
>>29327266concerning how close it is
>>29327174Luxiem didn't "settle," ID3 didn't "settle," Hololive Gen X didn't "settle." Not every gen settles down into like half their debut week peaks. Some barely lose their debut numbers and some gens even grow.
Yo has anything like this been made for Tempus and Iluna yet?
>>29327405Selen inclining.
>>29327465Check for Zs and Raids
>>29327445Sure. I expect StarsEN will settle because there's no indication they wouldn't. They're not going to magically unleash a Chinese fujo audience well after debut like Luxiem did.
>>29325926>Homo A Way OutI watched it multiple times already, I'll just go back through the VOD and timestamps becuase I'm curious how StarsEN behaves in a game collab context as opposed to collab zatsus>Kirby>Kronii streaming KirbyNo.>Ame Elden Ring part #100 where she just dicks around and spends like 2 hours trying to get a boss to fall off or cliff or jobs for an hour because her build is retardedCall me when she starts the final boss rush or Malenia.>Bae StrayI cannot watch this game, it's too much of a debuff for me and many others finished it already
debut buff doko
>>29327538Number is number.
>>29327445>Hololive Gen X didn't "settle."Yes they did. They just inclined back afterwards.
>>29327071Wait, who is the 5th Noctyx? I only remember Alban because he has solid numbers, Uki because he is a fag and had sex with Pomu and Finana, Yugo because """""he""""" is a tranny, and Sonny because he is ugly as fuck.
>>29327585AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>29327585ID STRONGID > PH
>>29326999She was streaming before Gura started and had almost 6k tho, people just didn't want to watch her play ER and join the Rust Collab instead, not whitelisting herself is her own dumb fault but even as a hardcore Ame fan I'm not excited to see her play ER again over seeing a big Collab on a well known game between Gura/Mumei/Fauna. Thats like having to choose between going to a family gathering or going to your college friends pool party.
>>29327036YAMERO GURA, I WATCHES THIS LIVE, WATCHED THE VOD, WATCHED EVERY SINGLE MOMENT CLIPPED AND TRANSLATED INTO JAPANESE, WATCHED COMEDIAN OJISAN SAY ITS HIS FAVORITE GURA VIDEOWHAT MORE DO YOU WANT?
>>29324315I watched Fauns roommate during 2910-2021, what do you expect kek
>>29327546Curious newfag here: are these predictions supposed to indicate their absolute career ceiling, or just where they might start before any growth occurs. Do streamers just not ever gain more viewers over time?
>>29322402@ THE LITERAL WHO NIJINIGGER GRADUATING JUST NOWhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=Lpb5AwK-j50YOU WERE NOTHINGYOU ARE NOTHINGYOU WILL BE NOTHING
>>29327538Raids doesnt work for NijiEN right now. I think only Uki and Shu are even able to raid since a few weeks ago. Selen has only gotten one raid the last 10 days
>>29327585That beautiful model, squandered...
>>29327266Did she had some minecraft bump after she collabed with Gura?
>>29327654You are not asking the right person to stop. You should just as Susan to stop recommending this.
>>29327610Sana's husband
>>29326504So a Twitch grinder ... Which mean they would rather stays on Twitch than subject to Susan's bs number
MY HAGWIFE INCLING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>29325795Don't forget night shift people
>>29327585Pagpag debuff
>>29327036this is permanently stuck on my recommended for a week now
>>29327445>Hololive Gen X???They totally did mate.
>>29327755Fulgur Covid is in Noctyx? I thought he was a Luxiem
>>29327669Based edgy holochad
>>29326550Sir, /ggg/ is three blocks down
>>29327610FUNNNNNGUS
>>29327667It indicates what their "regular" numbers will look like once novelty has run its course and the audience is mostly made up of a core staple of regulars.Whether the channel (or gen/wave) goes on to grow or decline over time after that is an entirely different question.
>>29327818anon....
>>29325926holy beggar
>>29327770this is what a good gura collab does for you
>>29327700Yes, she got her highest ccv since debut right after collabing with Gura.
How did Salome keep her Debut buff for so fucking long?
>>29327091That never works. Hololive needs to fill in niches that haven't explored to replicate success. Niji is doing it little by little. Hololive is just "if it ain't broke don't fix it."
>>29327667I seriously have no idea. Ojisan improved a lot in his second zatsudan but the number was lower. It really depends on their content right now. I expect Magni to get the most views due to his meme value and his ability to contain it. If the blueboy can snatch chunk of viewers from Vox and Mysta then he might have the highest ccv after 1 month but I am not seeing it. Doggo has Australian debuff so he will have the lowest sub and lowest ccv as per tradition.
>>29327852This. For example Gen5 started strong, settled, then months later inclined.Some council inclined, some reclined.
>>29327667>Do streamers just not ever gain more viewers over time?Over the span of the past year, I think I've seen only a handful of corpos incline. Inclining is really hard without a huge influx of new viewers like being exposed to a new country and almost everyone knows Hololive and nijisanji these days.
>>29325926Gura is just so much more entertaining and witty than the rest of HoloEN it's just not even fucking funny. The girl was a born entertainer in the same vein as Pekora, Kobo, and Mito. She's not quite at Pekora's level though (nobody is).
Kaela has passed Scarle, Aster, and is close to passing the Pomu collab in peak views.
>>29328015They should hire 5 menheras instead. I feel like menheras make the best streamers.
>>29327585uhh, riku? you're supposed to bot the first 2 weeks of streams too...
>>29327956Massive numbers had everyone ask "why does she have massive numbers" resulting in more people tuning in, resulting in massive numbers that make everyone ask "why does she have massive numbers," repeat over and over.It's like the old Netflix marketing tactic where everybody watched whatever flavor of the month shit movie like Bird Box people are tweeting about because it seems like everybody is watching it. Numbers follow numbers.
>>29328107Fauna is one of the better entertainers in Council and Council has a legitimate menhera in Kronii
>>29327585jesas
>>29327585Who here would watch a twisted wonderland stream, regardless of chuuba?
>>29327585Debut buff doko?
>>29328076>Gura nuthuggers
>>29328191Suicidal is not menhera okay.
GO KAELA GO >>29328206If it was my oshi (Kaela isn't my oshi)? I'd do it. But my oshi tangents off fucking nothing in pretty much anything she plays so it's nice.
>>29328212>Moona was blessed by Pekora>Kaela was quested by GuraWill the blue women make their indonesian pokemon fight each other?
>>29328251I'm not watching Bae faggot
>>29327700Miko and Gura. People learned she's an absolute autist and MC god.
Mayuzumi went from 80k to less than 70k while he keeps getting calls from people not from Niji. I thought Niji fanbase were all about being open to indies and other corpos?
>>29328171Basically this. Like Squid Game blew up because people kept talking about it and it got bigger and bigger.Salome worked really hard to kill her streak with Raw Danger 2. Couldn't think of a worse game to stream to 70-80k people to kill your momentum.
10 PM might actually be a good timeslot for Nowa if he has the 5ch buff...
>>29328212>debut buffyou're looking at it. they'll be sub 2k in a few weeks.
>>29328346No, they'd just end up building another super-structure together instead.
>HomoEN experimenting with a very structured box-building experiment where every short stream redirects directly into the next for a solid night of mostly uninterrupted programmingI'm honestly extremely curious to see how this goes and if it has any success.
>>29325858Even Towa has some. They just ignore the male collabs at best, maybe shitpost on twitter lol
>>29328346Can Kobo adopt a JP/EN and make them her Moona/Kaela?
>>29328107Menheras make the worst. You need more savior cases like Watame.
>>29328385Can they even understand what he is talking about? Also not the best talker-streamers from EN tbqh. There are lots of political 3views streamer that can talk better than him.
>>29328474it's artisanal box building
>>29328474I’m genuinely rooting for them. I want to see if they can build this box from the ground up. It’s gonna be an uphill battle no matter what but there’s a lot of possible good coming out of this
>>29328212I seriously wonder what goes through their minds when they see their viewers suddenly vanish into a fraction of what they debuted with....
>>29328474We'll see. I bet this is a trial run for EN3 to avoid another Council situation.
>>29327449i suppose i can make it but there hasn't been enough streamsneed 10 streams per chuubas at least
>>29328474The worrying thing would be you're passing around the same pool of viewers so overlap would suck.BUT I would argue that relying on funneling is even harder to keep people's attention during debut week.A pool of 6-7k people ain't bad for StarsEN.
>>29328515>political 3views streamerNot sure that's what they're looking for.
>>29325354discord server rules the vtuber
>>29323194>King losing to a female nijiIt's over...
>>29328346>Kobo blessed by KiaraKneel to mommy chimkin
>>29328514Talking sheep has no pull other than her cult. There is a reason why gen 4 and gen5 seldom get outside collab/merch while genX become the shilling gen with others. Migoti and Pekora were once menhera in the olden days too. Rushia had good numbers too before she self imploded.
KAELA 6K DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>29328352Bae is like the anti-Gura. Bae is the most basic bitch in all of HoloEN, all she does is yell really loud, say bruh, and react to chats insults. I don't think I have ever heard anything of value come out of her mouth. The HoloEN wit chart goesTier 1 (Master): GuraTier 2 (Has their moments): Ina, Fauna Tier 3 (Not boring): Mumei, Irys, Amelia Tier 4 (Boring): Mori, Kronii, KiaraTier 5 (Braindead): Bae
>>29328623>A pool of 6-7k people ain't bad for StarsEN.I think that's the intent. Sure you're passing around the same set of viewers but if you can keep them watching long-term then that's a decent base to work with.
>>29328596They were all 2 or 3views before this so it's still a massive increase from before. I don't think it's a surprise to anyone that you only retain a small % of people who watched your debut. It hasn't been a new phenomenon since 2020.
>>29324702And she made more money than any artist on her caliber in any other agency. Since she got money from her music, her feature on MGO, and her holoduties
>>29328760Fauna is literally on a higher tier than Ina and you can't convince me otherwise. Maybe at some point in the past I'd have agreed with you but that bitch has been boring and stagnant since she went on her fucking Violet break a year ago.
>>29328703You blessed TOO HARD kiara. You she's beating 80% of JP and 9/10 from your branch.
>>29328690What I mean is that they flow better. Ojisan has good flow too if you compared him to the fleshtuber from the shitty anime commentary community but that is a low bar so I didn't use them as an example.
almost 6k waiting for nowa oji
>>29327585INDOGS YAMEROOOOOO
>>29328724>There is a reason why gen 4 and gen5 seldom get outside collab/merch while genX become the shilling gen with others.She is in merch all the time and got a solo live, retard.
>>29328760I think Fauna is more witty than Gura, but Gura has way more charisma and dumb comedic timing (even though she also says witty shit).t. chumbud
>>29328623>The worrying thing would be you're passing around the same pool of viewers so overlap would suck.You gotta build a viewer base to get the channels in the algo. Youtube rewards success with more success. Forcing no/minimal overlaps during the early stages is actually probably pretty damn smart. Once they start showing up in recommends, they'll hopefully incline their core audiences.
I predict Hololive viewership will fall into two factionsGura faction of CGDCT, which includes her, Fauna, Mumei, Kronii, Kiara, and (maybe) Irys, who will never collab with men and only play games with other girls. Most of their content will be solo and they'll develop their own fanbasesUNITY faction of Stars, Morii, Bae, Ame, which collab all the time and try to boost each other's ccvs up because none of them can survive on their own in the post homo worldWill be fun to see two completely different boxes grow
>>29328827EGOIST?
>>29328857>You she's beating 80% of JP and 9/10 from your branch.I fail to see how this is a bad thing
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>29322894>>29323595>>29323745That's because, unlike in Nijisanji where you get a tourism buff for the particular day, you truly do need to earn your stripes in Hololive. No, I am not talking about petty shit like "YOU DIDN'T EARN THE RIGHT TO SING" like Nijiniggers do, but actual audience attention. People are more willing to give you the time of day because they have faith in Cover that they selected someone capable of providing entertainment for them. But once they tune out, they're almost permanently gone.Just look at Matsuri.
Kaela has officially passed everyone NijiEN that has streamed so far except for Ren.What the fuck.
>>29327610The romeo of vtubing
>>29328760You're honestly giving modern Ina too much credit. Mumei is more likely to fit into your second tier than Ina is.
>>29328946(me)Didn't mention Ina because she's an island and will just do whatever and keep her viewers
>>29328760I'd honestly put Fauna close to Gura in terms of wit. Mumei should also go up a tier but I think she really needs someone else to bounce off of to unlock her full potential.
>Vesper with 6k waitingDamn. I know there would be a funnel, but vesper could singlehandedly out-ccv Magni and Regis’ 2 hour collab if his numbers climb any higher after the stream actually starts.
>>29329021Power of 3 bitch. EN3 is gonna have 5 Guras at this rate.
>>29329021Fuck I meant the new wave.
>>29328946It's not that complicated, anon.
>>29327036This shit been reccomended to me for at least once a week since last year
>>29328946I can't wait to see the flourishing of cuck-meme in hlgg once the collab ban is over.
>>29328946>Ame>Collab all the timerorurumao
>>29329116>waveAnon..
Gen 3 are terrifying..EN3 will make this place not fun anymore
>>29329110If EN3 are actually amazing... then it's over for Stars, Bae, and Ame. Their viewership is going to get completely consumed for greener pasturesGuess they better start collabing now
>oji stuttered againngmi
KAELA'S ISP HATE
>>29329296its cute fuck you
>>29329101Axel was gigafucked on overlapRegis and Magni were partially fucked, but mostly fucked by the fact that the first part was overlapped and people were not interested in something that already started, most of the viewers from Gura's went to Kronii/Bae/Amenow it's free real estate
>>29327585uhmm
>>29329275Bae and Ame maybe, but Stars seem isolated from regular Holo
>>29329332SHE NEED TO SUBSCRIBE ANOTHER ISP
https://twitter.com/holostarstv/status/1552156828582219777?s=20&t=8CHCLEH-EjkMIijGaJsSZAHomoJP and Uproar as ambassador in Akibayabai
>>29329275Ame would just do what she's always wanted to do and basically act as an EN in-house content director who also streams sometimes.
https://twitter.com/holostarstv/status/1552156828582219777https://twitter.com/holostarstv/status/1552156828582219777https://twitter.com/holostarstv/status/1552156828582219777Akihabara Sponsor
>>29329078I'd be inclined to agree, but I think Mumei doesn't do well when it comes to gaming solo streams. It's like she can't concentrate on both the game and talking and just mumbles to herself most of the time, she's high tier on talks, collabs and just general socializing.
>>29328474>You are welcome
How was the long awaited Gura-Pekora interactionI'm not watching R*st
>>29327585>>29329361Forgot the image
>>29329422>>29329422Example # 2,506 of Cover ensuring that even their runts eat well
>>29329101>funnelRaid. Omega's dumb 1 hour konga line of streams is working, this is basicall a glorified 4 hour stream of people you barely get to see everyday. Good use of the debut buff.
>>29329462Really fucking boring
>>29328474did they take my post itt seriously and actually enforced it for a new gen?
>>29328474It's good, but I'm not sure if they'll be able to keep it up.
>>29328946I'd rather the boys build their own box with HoloID, they're much more used to Stars interaction and having similar level of numbers is good for mutual box growth. Only problem is timezone problem, only Axel is on good ID time.
>>29329462Fun, but very brief.
>>29329438I like it for Stars, but will absolutely hate if they pull it for EN3. One hour per stream and locked-in timeslots is such a restrictive limitation for debut week.
>>29328051Hasnt most HoloENs and NijiENs inclined from where they were a year ago?
>>29329462Peko didn't speak and seemed to use DeepL to communicate so no Pekonglish kino unfortunately
>>29329424Mumei gets rewarded for making weird noises and mumbling so she does it more now. People think it's adorable.
>>29329401If she stops streaming then whatever leftover of teammates will kill themselves.
>>29329399>Myabi, Fuma and Erenmy favorite brochubas
>adds in HomoEN for the girls>cannabilizes HoloEN audience>didn't even affect NijiEN numbersdid anyone have this in their bingo card?
>6knowa is too powerful
>>29329422My wife Nose is so cute...
>>29329523I doubt there's an intent to keep it up for an extended period of time, just for this initial launch period. Once they've established a box of their own, you pull the framework back and let the talents settle into their own timeslots.
>>29329462Nothing really that exciting happened but they'll probably get decent clips, Gura hammed it up a bit and Pekora gave her stuff, shot at her and called her baby.
>>29328951No, as ado
>>29329275Stars is completely different gender, as long as EN3 are not mixed gen (which is zero percent chance) they'll have their own fans to play with. Bae and the likes though yeah, they really need to plan their schedules way better.
>>29328191If Fauna is a better entertainer than Kronii and Mumei why does she not get better numbers than them?
>>29329578Well they did a REALLY FUCKING BAD JOB if they hired a boomer and a memer to pander to women.
LMAO Ame's ccv went by like 500 when Regis and Magni endedGuess we know where all the teammates went to "improve themselves"
>>29329647Her voice and her shilling herself as an ASMRtist is a filter.
the old man came for VENGEANCE against risoto for taking his EN male gold
>>29329647Her voice is more grating than Kiara.
>>29329621Anon if EN3 is mixed gender they wouldn't have debuted StarsEN.
Ame up to 6.1k, slowly going up.
>>29329021The Golden Gen is numbered 3, The number 3 represent The Father, The Holy Spirits, and The Son
>unstable internet>no Zs in sightwhat gives?
>>29329583I am watching Gura's West of Loathing side by side with his... jesus man at least do the voices..
>>29328212That IS debut buff.Twisted Wonderland is the type of stream that will be like 800 CCV in a month
>>29329462It was actually somewhat tense because it wasn't clear if she was going to kill them or not. Gura did unintentionally get her killed by a helicopter though.
>>29329621A lot of current EN Stars viewers are just tourists or people not interested in what the girls are currently streaming. Dangle new shiny tons in front of them, and Stars is 2k
>>29329647Fauna's personality and natural entertainment skills with Kronii's model and voice would very likely be the highest number performer in EN by an astronomical margin, save for maybe Gura.
>>29329578Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's Homos' fault when their most shared audience isn't even the girls, let's forget that there were 6 fucking girls streaming at the same time for the first time in... probably ever without taking into account full branch collabs?
>do you member?Please oji I have no idea what you are talking about. I am zoomer with ADHD and you still have dead air ocassionally.
>>29329754comparing anyone to Gura isn't fair.
>>29329700He's not getting over 7k, anon
>>29329533Not really a big incline, just fluctuations of a few thousand (8-10k) based on content and game choice. Something like Luxiem is a clear incline because they went from 2k to 10k, but on the HoloEN side, most of the girls did a good job keeping their first month numbers and are capped around 10k median.Notable inclines are like Subaru, Suisei... Etc. Pekora is going through a pretty big incline herself actually, it's been more than a month of insane daily numbers.
>>29329746you know why anon
>>29328703*Kiara was blessed by Kobo
>VesparThis dude is gonna be the lowest ccv one when the debut buff wears off, he has zero talent besides the whole old man pity shtick.
>>29329857Number rabbit probably got some tourists from Salome. She should thank Salome for keeping her viewers entertained while she is away.
>>29329688Guess who's viewers aren't going to cry themselfs to sleep if Tempus growth keeps going and they're allowed to Collab with anyone in EN
>>29329844>he doesn't remember
>>29328505yes, it's the blue homo
>>29329936Nah, blue is the most fucked unless his ASMR actually does something.
>>29329936You're trying too hard, anon.
>>29329936I have no idea how he got in.
>>29328505Blue homo, with lost brother arc
I feel like Gura's laziness has absolutely rubbed off on all the other Holo girls. She's so adamant about not caring about numbers that the same mindset has infected the rest of the girls. They've gotten so fucking lazy and complacentLike yeah, sure, play your favorite game. Just don't cry when you're a 4k shitter like Bae
>>29329746damn it looks like another 7k~8k if her internet didn't die
>>29329806So you want nature who is constantly trying to kill herself and time that actually stream regularly huh.
>>29328505Regis is already her brother, but I'm worried he's not going to roast Kobo enough to draw out the kusogaki when they collab.
>>29329856He has 8k on that screenshot though?
>>29329936Nah, the Regis dude will definitely be the runt unless he attract a lot of fujos out of nowhere
>>29329936>>29330016>12:24>13:29
>>29330032Did you mean isn't?
>>29328946>Bae>Ame>Mori>try to boost each other's CCVi'm fucking WHEEZING
>>29329936If only we got Ren instead...
>>29330026>Just don't cry when you're a 4k shitter like BaeNone of them are crying lmao
>>29330081That was this morning
>>29330026If not for holoEN's laziness NijiEN girls wouldn't survive at all. Everyone of them will be 2views and Pomu Nina Elira Selen will be 3views.
>>29330081That was his morning stream, he's not getting 8k with his current stream.
>>29330118Ren couldn't even fucking reach 10k on his second non-debut stream. He's going down the shitter too.
How is this sexy oji-san so fucking strong?
I hope they hurry up with EN3. I want that shit on my desk no later than August 13th.
>>29330026All of ENs except for Gura and Mysta are 4views shitter though?
>>29330186he loves streaming
>>29330186he's just having so much fucking fun every stream
c'mon sisters, you can't possibly be seething because of Nowa-oji... that's a bit too low...
nowa Z?
>>29330074from their interaction on kobo's WR stream ot has potential. i believe he'll stop gaybaiting when he saw how bad his ccv is.
>>29328760Move IRyS and Mumei up to Tier 2 and move Ina down to Tier 3. Now the list is perfect.
>>29329746Zs are dependent on chinese VPS watchers Not every fucked up chart is the same thing Z is not connection is, and connection issues are not bar coding and bar coding is not.. etc etc
Looks like Vesper just Z'd
Ojisan 7k get
>>29330186SOVL and he just like me fr fr
KEKnoir just got the Z
>passed the AWO collabI can’t believe that a wholesome boomer could actually be the king of this gen
This is the tiniest fucking z
>>29330213Kronii had actual potential to be a 5view, same with Mumei. Unfortunately the former is menhera and "depressed" and the latter can't hold a fucking conversation and spazzes out at the slightest inconvenience. They also can't fill dead air to save their lives when playing games and just rely on cute noises or their fandom memes
grandpa is great, i'm glad cover doesn't just discard any application that doesn't have 100k subs on curriculum
>>29330278>IRyS>tier 2Nah. She is entertaining but her numbers are shit. Ina can stay in tier 2 alright.
Even after T-chan has posted the collab beggars are still going onhttps://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/w91lh5/why_are_comments_involving_anything_nijisanji/iht8gqd/>You can't block the sun with your hands. Fans want something. The talents want something. It's just some major external factor that it makes it not possible atm or in the nearly future. There's no ratts or crazy theories been thrown out here. You simple describe what is visible.
>>29330213Ina is a 5 view most of the time, fuck off
>>29330318/MANS/fujos dont have $11 to bots more purisu adanstando
>>29329021ARCPOWER!I swear gura, Just grab Kaela and have her help finish Atlantis with you you dumb shork. Like for real, she can't focus on projects for shit, having autism-incarnate ver 2.0 wrangle her is exactly what she needs.
>>29329936Here's your (you), but he has a gift for zatsudan. I feel like he will definitely get a sizeable following if he can sustain the kind of energy he has right now.
>>29330356That pos isn't about numbers
>>29330318Are Z's sizes dependent on the streamer's age?
>ZSo it is confirmed that Zhangs are watching Nowa too?
>>29330318That’s basically the case for everyone in Holo. Holo Z’s barring Laplus are like at most 1k increases, for EN it’s almost always around 500 or so. Nijis are the ones getting FIFTEEN BILLION extra ccv. It’s so fucking weird
>>29330337You really wanted this guy over someone like Sweeto? Come the fuck on. He has a fucking lisp, he can barely speak, he constantly has dead air, he has no skill at video games or singing. I just don't fucking get it at all. Noir is the Noel of EN.
>>29329399>>29329422>shien’s costume and voice will be implemented in a game he loves (pso2) alongside fubuki’s and ina’s costumes and voices>miyabi and fuma become one of the ambassadors in some akihabara eventGO STARSJP GO
>>29330318And he just keeps dropping now. Probably won't get to that Z number again
>>29329936I just watched the blue collab with mag and he was funny as fuck.He seems to be that guy who everybody think it's the good guy but in reality he is the demon lord.
>>29330379I fucking blame kiara for this. Wtf is her problem with collab begging
>Gets a Z>Drops like a rock afterwardsyeah there is quite some fujos on this stream
>>29330441>Holo Z’s barring Laplus are like at most 1k increasesHoly fuck I am pretty much 100% sure Zs are caused by Chinese VPNs already because believe it or not La+ has a Chinese fanbase.
>>29330462t. didn't watch Ren's boring ass streamShut the fuck up. Dude didn't even know how to fucking play the game as if he were a fucking 12 year old and didn't talk much out side of fucking gameplay
>>29328946This is beyond threadreading
>>29329754You don't get it anon, this way he makes us read and keeps us engaged
>>29330356IRyS' numbers are not shit faggot. Either way, there is a reason why everybody loves just about every collab IRyS is in and that is because she is great at bantz. It takes a quick and witty mind to be truly great at bantz. Hell, I would put IRyS up there with Gura but I know you faggots would over react to that. IRyS belongs in tier 2.IRyS is probably the best vtuber
>>29330436Unironically good for them if it is just a part of their viewership so they can't dictate things. The chinese yumejos are fucking insane when it comes to merch and SC so just having a few of them will bolster the moneymaking of tempus
>>29330628N****** was better singer though.
>>29330462>>29329936You know you’ve made it once you’ve attracted schizo antis
>>29328724>Rushia had good numbers too before she self imploded.I don't think that's the risk Cover would like to take at the moment
If I was a Holostars EN reject I would be seething watching someone as talent less as Noir succeed.
>>29330628Irystocrats honestly believe this
>>29330379can't this fuckers get a hint already? they must be getting paid to do this shitthey can't possibly be doing that for free
>>29330405Kaela can't build, per her words. She just love grinding materials. Have Moona with her for the structure and Ollie for decorations instead.
>>29330462calm down anon
>>29330628IRyS doesn't know how to shut the fuck up and let other people talk in collabs. She may have bants but she's also fucking self absorbed as hell. >best vtuberogey
>>29330337i mean, they hired kobo with 0 subs so we already know cover doesn't cares.
>>29325517The low SC amount for hololyzer is due to a bug on hololyzer's side. Normally, the count includes the waiting rooms, but for this stream only, the count started 30 minutes after the start. So I think Playboard's numbers are more accurate.
that z took 5 minutes, the same time it took to recover the wait roomalready back to the latest numbers before the z
We should just merge with /MANS/ because all you guys wanna do is suck this old dudes cock
>>29330967fuck off dead air schizo
>>29330967SUK DIS COK KLEAN
>>29330967holy fucking kek dudeare you shaking?
>>29329539It ist.Not a hooman
>>29330379>The fans want somethingSuch a loud minority
>>29330967Hey we wanna suck Fauna and Kaela dick too
>>29330958I'm watching him, but his viewer count never went below 6k here
>>29330967Neck yourself, Nijifag.
Why are there so many Saplings in here always trashing Bae? Bae is cute, adorable, and amazing. Jealous Saplings are just upset that they attached themselves to a whore instead of a cutie like Bae.
>Tempiss is never reaching 10k againI kinda feel bad but when you have talentless people like this vampire dude who can barely talk I guess it happens. Maybe pick better talents next time, Cover.
>>29330967sister... not like this...
>>29330998Hey I started that he was just taking my shtick. Still got some dead air ngl, but way better now.
>>29330379Why don't he just make a thread at r/nijisanji to beg for the collab since the block came from Niji's side.
>>29330545Kiara may have singlehandedly killed the growing Holobubble with her selfishness. Bitching like a child on stream that she can't collab because her company doesn't want to fucking advertise its competitor"B-B-BUT IF THERE'S UNITY THEN EVERYONE WILL BENEFIT"Absolutely false. Example: Shoto. Look at how much he's inclined after leeching off Nijisanji. Nijisanji has gained nothing from this, and has in fact lost viewers to himCollabing with a rival company that's trying to capture the same market as you is going to only end in the smaller company coming out on top and the bigger company getting absolutely dunked on. You only collab if the person is an unaffiliated indie
damn nowa ojii imade it huh
>>29331131Can you guys feel the fear dripping off the Nijikeks? They are afraid.
Why is PB counting $167k on Mayu's ch but Hololyzer only counted 8.5M yen? Also, japanese fangirls are scary when it comes to SCs.
>>29331126I'm a nousagi
This kaela discovery by gura viewers made me realize how small /vt/ is. Or maybe just /#/. Because I don't even watch Kaela and I know her deal and strong points just from hanging around.
>>29330967What part of numbers do you not understand.
Guess what vod is already at 300k views
I'm sorry but I can't watch this. His lisp aggravates me.
>>29331126Face it people just don't like Bae. She has no fans. Seriously I don't even remember what her fan-name is.
>>29331198
>>29331200see >>29330895
>>29331131rumao, I can go lower if you want, don't even need to put gura
>>29329936>>29330462>>29330738>>29331131I would usually be dying of laughter here, but fuck this is just sad
>>29331131You're post is the equivalent of saying: "I kind of feel bad when water isn't wet". It simply makes no sense, as the logic is self defeating.
>>29331180Are you implying that Shoto is not indie?
>>29330379Somebody kill all the fucking beggars already. Nijibeggars, Homobeggars, collabeggars, all of them are the same bunch of retards
Does this dude have dementia or something? SO much dead air and losing his track of thought. Should have hired someone younger who can actually articulate.
>>29331216Is this one going to a million in the long-term?
>>29331126this thread is about objectiveness, if you like bae, by all means keep watching her. The numbers don't lie though
>>29331264>Anya>mogging 4 wave6 niggers with debut buff
>>29331216Number rabbit was there so 1/3rd of the views are contributed by clippers.
>>29330628>everybody loves just about every collab IRyS is inSEArystocrats truly are delusional. Your oshi is the whitest of bread, no one really cares about her.
>>29331180I hope she graduate
>>29331421IRyS is chink though.
Uncle Nowa already has a schizo? Nice, he made it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pBlQcyqaNEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pBlQcyqaNEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pBlQcyqaNEThis has more ccv than this ugly speech impaired man. Why aren't we discussing this?
It's telling when this thread shits on Bae, Ame, and Irys, some of the most loved girls on this board, while constantly talking up boys. It's literally been taken over by homos and Nijifags. Literally I can read this shit in Niji discords. Fuck you all, you just hate Hololive girls.
>>29331126Why have you been trying to push this fanbase war bullshit HERE of all places that will just tell you that Bae's numbers are fucking shit even disregarding Fauna? Go to fucking global if you want to try and pull this shit, no one here cares. Also fun fact, I'm a fucking Teamate and I think Bae's fucking obnoxious and doesn't know how to be entertaining. I've actually been watching her and her cat stream is unironically worse than Ina's.
>>29331471nijifans are bronies now?
>>29331225>>29331310Lamy, Fauna, koyori schizo?? Does that mean Vesper is the male Lamy equivalent? Inclining to the mooon
>>29331471wrong thread sister
>>29331480>you just hate womenFtfy
>>29330628>IRyS is probably the best vtuberAgreed friend
>>29331310Mumei is similar but she makes cute noises to make up for it, can't concentrate on the game and talking at the same time, but solo talking streams are their strong points 100%
>>29331471>Calling others holobrony>ThisCan you nijikeks stop copying Hololive?
>everybody responding to blatant bait completely unrelated to /#/s in SEA hoursYep, time to check out.
funny thread.
>>29331480Nah, I just hate lazy bitches who coast off their success rather than capitalize on it. Myth entered the market at the perfect time, and that is the only reason they're the market leaders. If Gura debuted today, she'd be getting sub 8k streams post debut
>spamming blatantly fake waiting room and CCV numbers to bait people into opening streams and confuse posters>Cover is actually in debt and financially insolvent, they're going to kick the bucket soon!!!>propping up iluna debut numbers and downplaying/ignoring the severely diminished post-debut "buff" that has fallen below StarsENNow they're seriously so mad about Vesper's positive reception here that they're shitting on him on post cooldownA F R A I DFRAID
>>29331180Little surprise she's failed in most everything she's done.
>>29331467It's weird since the schizo is completely absurd, so it skips the irritation part and goes straight to mildly amusing.
>>29331471It's below what Luca usually gets and its now below Vesper anyways.
>>29328946>Ame>Boost CCV
>>29331303Beggars are the ultimate tourists. They're the true face of unity fags, retards that don't understand not all vtubers need to get together in orgies and keep trying to push them to collab. They see vtubers as glorified ficitional characters so they don't even begin to think they might annoy them or that they might not simply be able to approach other vtubers that are strangers. Its like if you could pester Ironman directly every day and ask if he's heard about DC and your favorite capechuba, Batman.
seems like nowa ojii is hovering around 6.5-6.8k hopefully he can break the 7k barrier later aside from that Z earlier
>>29331180Why suddenly bashed on Kiara? Her reasoning is correct because there is literally not enough people in EN right now for constant internal collabs. Sora did lots of collabs back in the days. It is only now that there are a large number of talents that JP can exclusively collab among themselves. Outside collab was really a good way to grow at the start and she was in gen 1. Stop shitting on Kiara's idea just because you hate her. You should look more into the merit of the idea instead.
So.. Ren > tempus > non ren wave 6?
>>29331471Neck yourself, Nijifag.
>>29331708It is too early to fucking tell
>OH MY GOD GUYS HE IS LITERALLY METhis is all it takes for you guys to watch someone? Is that why you guys don't watch NijiEN? Because they talk to girls and therefore are unreltable?
>>29331666Good luck trying to convince people here that HoloEN should collab with NijiEN lmao.Save your time bro.
>>29331646I opened it. I am on a list now.
>>29331600the moment they get their own schizo that's when you know they made it
>>29331708Not really, his metroid was barely above Nowa's last zatsu. we're still seeing how fall the debut buff will fall off.
Tokino Sora 1M subsWhen will mito get 1M subs bros?
mayuzumi is cursed
>>29331666Because Kiara has done nothing but donate viewers to Pomu. There isn't a single fucking NijiEN fag that had no idea who kiara was. Can you say the same about holofags before Kiara started shilling /b/omu?
>>29331782That is not how things work, saplings.
>>29331810wait what already ?
>>29331708Tempiss is bleeding viewers like fucking crazy and their top talent is an old dude with dementia. They will unironically be 2k shitters in a few days, at least Noir will be. Regis might survive if his ASMR takes off, Axel might survive with the JP and Apex buff, and Magni I doubt survives with his stupid mag meme. Things are looking grim. In my eyes both Iluna and Tempiss are failures.
>29331740Women just aren’t funny now fuck off faggot
>>29331740I'd rather watch someone relatable than hearing pepepopo vagineer dick joke for the nth times
>>29331343Probably not, it only had a peak of 23k and it wasn't that long. But then again a similar premise VOD for ARK(Mumei/Gura go and play on a JP server of survial game) is at 850k.
Graduation boy below 60k..koushien hype killed him so hard..family my ass
>>29331810when she streams again
>>29331666If you want an honest answer people here aren't willing to accept, I'll tell you why cover doesn't want collabs with Niji and supports tribalismIt's because Niji EN is legitimately more entertaining to watch in the long-term if you're not a parasocial looking for GFE. Holo girls are as interesting as white bread
>>29331740No, I just don't relate to whores, male or female ones.
Nowa I love you but this game is boring. Call me when you play Project Triangle Strategy. I have no idea what hunt showdown is but you have 1 more chance to wow me.
Gray Lamy
>>29331939Anon I know that's not true, I've seen Nina and the new hires.
>>29331962Stay until he plays Dwarf Fortress at least.
>>29331878There is literally no 2k holostar before this. Imagine they opened a new branch of Hololive and you said>in 2 weeks these retards will be 50k average shittersThat's how you sound like now.
>>29331831Pretty much this. It's sad to see people in such denial as Kiara makes Cover look bad and props up the competition.
>>29331740i dont watch everything associated with zhang sorry
>>29331708Ren's Genshin Impact stream at the end of debut week will be a guaranteed 10k (perfect target audience for a game like that), but it's hard to say.He had a nice peak today, but if you look at his graph, his retention was poor and he started bleeding viewers after only 1 hr in a 1.5 hr stream. Granted, it's fucking Metroid.https://vrabi.net/video/cELpjF3DZOgSo far, Tempus has been raiding each other, but the retention between stream to stream is good no matter what the content is, which is encouraging compared to the sharp NijiEN raids.
Wait...Coco's SC record is $306,360 on playboard.Equivalent to 41M yen, and I thought she got 33M yen.
>>29331471So start the discussion then. What happening now on their stream that's interesting?
>>29331908he got the peak though. Will it be enough to deny godl for the concert is the big question?
>>29332001We already have a grey lamy, its vestia. nowa is grey noel, full of sovl.
>>29331939>Niji EN is legitimately more entertaining to watch and other hilarious jokes you can tell yourself
>>29331545I agree as well. She has lots of practice too because she actually streams
>>29331878Keep spamming on cooldown, retard.
>>29331962>Nowa I hate this game that does good numbers>please play the biggest fucking debuff shit everAre you crossposting from /mans/ or something ? Wrong tab?
>>29332075noel is already gray... why not boobless noel ?
>>29331600it just funny. They're AFRAID to StarsEn of all FUCKING things. a fucking StarsEN.God this month ALL OUT WAR will be interesting.
>>29332071what was his peak?
>>29332025A little bit of competition is healthy though. Don't forget niji was the bigger company back in the days and were willing to collab with hololive. Call me a nijinigger all you want but I personally don't watch any niji.
JWUHow the fuck do >we have a Noir schizo of all things? And fucking why? The man haven't done anything yet
>>29331939>It's because Niji EN is legitimately more entertainingThen why the fuck do they constantly bleed views while the stream goes on rather than keep them around or even incline?
>>29331348If that was the case then /#/ would never hold up Fauna as the best council tho? Because by objective numbers both Kronii and Mumei completely shits on Fauna's numbers. So why do we have to hear saplings going on and on and on about how Fauna is the best in this thread ?
1MILLION SUBS FOR SORA-CHAN!!!!!!
>>29332075But Noel is already grey, but I agree with the sovl part
>>29332155Don't mind them. Saplings are delusional as always.
>>29332128Holos already compete with each other. People make the choice everyday to watch one rather than another, etc. Don't need to add Niji into the mix.
>>29331939I learned about Niji first from the twitch sphere and got into Hololive afterwards because I was bored of collab spam. I'm sure I'm not the only person.
>>29332113NTA but West of Loathing isn't a buff game. It pretty neutral. Gura got 18k with it and I think Bae got 6k with it.Otherwise, carry on.
>>29332171Noir is Noel but thinner
he only Z'd to show unity with Selen
>>29332113See, this is the problem with /#/. You guys use data from completely unrelated circumstances and try to apply it to the current situation. Did it ever occur to you that buff content for one talent isn't buff content for another? You really think Gura's zoomer and pedophile fanbase has the same interests as Noir's oldfag NEET basement dwelling "hes literally me" fatherless and friendless audience?
>>29332134Because people like (you) keep biting and giving him attention.Just ignore the fucktard.
>>29331939What's so entertaining about nijis thenSince holos are just white breadGo on im giving you a chance
>>29332253>Yagoo bought the bots from the same store as Riku
>>29332134It's probably a Holostars Reject. Same reason Pippa shits on Nijisanji because she couldnt get in.
>>29332237hey fuck you, noel is fine as she is
>>29332222Did you not see the VOD I posted? Gura has failed to get anywhere near that with plenty of 25k+ streams.
>>29332294Finana is interesting.
>>29332075>vestia>vestycoincidence?
Kinf of weird that noirs ccv didn't increase a lot since the first 10min. I kind of want to see what numbers he would get without the raid
>>29332259Anon...do you not know what west of loathing is? Because I can assure you its got a lot more olfag than zoomer appeal.
>>29332344NTA but Noel's problem is that her tits are too big and it makes her look like a cheap whore. If her design had smaller tits she would be perfect.
>>29331666Except Kiara has had literally 1 (uno) outside Holo collab. She doesn’t care about outside collabs as some abstract thing she wants to collab with Pomu. Mori has more of an interest in non Holo chuubas and that’s more her helping her old indie friends and liking Mouse than anything.
>>29332294We have various genders unlike holo!
>>29332155Because she is inclining. Kronii refuses to do it, she could be a 15k CCV streamer if she showed her tits and played buff games/used her voice. Mumei is to busy with college to properly inclining and will always fall back down after a buffed monthly. It’s up to fauna to do it even if the other 2 shit on her, she is at least trying to leech off of Gura.
>>2933212686.7k
>>29332445Tally anon...
>>29332155the post was talking about bae, idk about mumei and kronii but people are given any oppertunity to shit on the smaller fish, who wouldn't take it
Poll on Ame's channel shows terrible engagement compared to standard HoloEN polls. Something about her channel has changed fundamentally, although she's been floating with that 6-7 avg. CCV for almost a year now.
Guys what do you think about iluna debut at the same time as holostar so far? Are they made a big mistake or not?
>>29332536Example?
>>29332510isn't noelflare fucking dead?
>>29332253Infected Z viewers have abandoned NijiEN for stars.
>>29332445they would have to do all kind of "fix" for the 3d live if they do that to hereven with the current model, you can see where the phantom part of the boobs are during 3d live
Will tempus have the same crazy buffs for karaokes as Luxiem and Noctyxs have?This might seem like bait but it isnt, I am just wondering if that buff is because of female viewers that go crazy over karaokes, in which case it would be a massive buff for Tempus too, or if it is dependent on the chinese viewers, in that case Tempus would not get as big of a buff for it as LuxNoc
>>29332536pic of her poll with the ccv at that time?
>>29332536nah its already too late to have good engaement and is fucking elden rign people are going to sleep
>>29332373I thought this was a bait post but I looked up the context and it's actually a sincere Ryuguard from /NijiEN/ and everyone is telling him to ditch Finana. Jesus I had no idea it was getting so hard for her fans.
>>29332587will need to wait until they do it.
>>29332587The last couple of Noctyx karaokes have not done that well numbers wise. Mediocre at best. Luxiem also never does them.
>>29328474HAHAHAHAHA THEY ARE COPYING SALOME. FUCKING HOLOS ALWAYS SHAMELESS. FIRST IT WAS THE WATCHALONG, THEN SONG ON DEBUT, NOW THIS KEK
>>29332494Kronii is a zoomer in every sense of the word. Afforded an amazing opportunity that could literally lead to generational wealth if she applies herself, completely ignores it and shits on her fanbase because she wants to do things "her way"If she joined Vshojo instead of Hololive and had the same attitude, she'd be wallowing as a fucking 3viewLiterally no appreciation for the insane opportunity she's gotten
>>29332373That's the most depressing shit I've read today.
>>29332701Are Hololive karaokes so buffed because of the "idol company" theming? Karaokes are generally pretty big buffs even for mediocre Holo singers, and are huge buffs for really good ones
>>29332373Finana filters her viewers to the point that her current viewers are just chinks, who watch her because she shares their ethnicity.
>>29332761Funny that 90% of holos are bad at karaoke, including the "vsinger" btw
>>29328946Where's the faction that would watch both CGDCT and Homos but would not watch collabs between them?
>>29332075>vestiaman /#/fag is really a subhuman huh
>>29332494nah if you force them to do only buff they will fucking burnout like mysta and vox who can even take a break if they find a chance to stream or are afraid of not streaming.
>>29332761NijiEN make karaoke is waaaay more turbobuffed than anything Hololive puts out. I don't understand where Uki conjures 17k retards to hear him sing, and not even anywhere near chink primetime.
>>29332536teamates improved themselves and now they watch Nowa lol
>>29332423There's 2 ways to look at it.>Vesper's CCV didn't move much since the start of the stream, so most of his viewers are from the previous stream.>Vesper managed to keep most of the viewers he got raided with, despite playing a completely different game as the timeslot for NA viewers is getting worse and worseThe truth is probably somewhere in the middle, a bulk of the people are from the previous stream, but those that left are being replaced. It's been 4 hours of raids after all, assuming these people weren't watching the Rust collab earlier.
>>29332827She is basically accelerated version of Ame huh.
>>29332373dammit this is heart breaking things to read, I hope that anon find better oshi or if he already ditched vtubing I hope he found better things to enjoy
>>29332663they got it so right with myth, EN couldnt have survived a Matsuri its a totally different circumstance and dynamic from when JP gen1 was a start up, also for all her flaws matuli knows to keep the unprofessional shit away from the rest of the company
>>29332761Except when the Holo in question is Pekora, yeah
>>29332373This isn't numbers but I gotta say, that sounds really horrible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4q18FZeR-0Sora 1m sub stream. Number?look like no holo girls would overlap her.
>>29332373Damnnnnnn now I know why the Niji watcher I know have such a bad opinion about Finana>"Lazulight is ruined by Finana"
Fuck, even when NijiEN and HoloProEN stream at the same time, people here only talk about Tempus, Myth and Council
Bets on who's going to get the biggest CCV from the homo funnel? I'm guessing Bae
>>29333047the others are boring.
>>29332843IRyS is amazing at karaoke
>>29331939Niji have the same culture as Twitch streamerBeing able to say dick does not make you anymore entertaining. People ust want to see girl doing wholesome thing which is what Hololive offer
>>29333047you can find the Niji discussion on weibo
>>29333047You can talk about NijiEN if you want to but there's literally nothing interesting going on there.
>>29332423Anons, please, for all that is holy, check the times when making a statement. He started at 1AM EST and it’s now going to 2AM. You don’t magically get hoards of viewers when many are going to bed. Be thrilled that he managed to get to 6.9k by himself, without considering the Z. That’s pretty solid for anyone, more so when he’s the one streaming after 3 hours if Tempus streams already. People are tiredAlso, it just comes with the territory of being 100k subs. You don’t have the immediate reach that others do. (He also forgot to alert people he was streaming again too)
>>29333098It might literally only be Bae, ame is ending soon
>>29332373>secret friend group of her fans, while ditching long time members for a twitter grouphow does this even work? i'm twitter illiterate like gramps
>>29331666>people in ENthey can collab with JP and ID holos instead of just focusing on EN. those collabs tend to be more entertaining as well.
>>29333098First of all, no. Stray fucking sucks. Second of all, there's no particular reason for StarsEN viewers to prefer Bae just because she backs their branch and is willing to collab. Third, Bae just ended.
>>29333117Yikes.
IT HAS BEEN AN HOUR OMEGA GONNA KILL THEM
>>29331666you are in numbers, the mental illness containment thread, didn't everything in the post being a rambling mess clue you in
>>29333157At what point will his viewers start being like JP viewers and say ついえら when he tweets shit and scream at him if he doesn't
The fact that Tempus looks up to engaging content creators like Northernlion, Jerma, DrDisrespect, and even Tyler1 is going to do them greatly in the future.
OMEGA SOMEONE WITH OVERSTREAMING
>>29333117They're OK but she rarely does anything interesting with them. Just sings the same songs with no theme or gimmick
>>29333277lets just wait that the management doesnt shut that downi really wanna see that scrapping a pc stream
>>29333247>the mental illness containment threadIsn't that hlgg?
>>29333189Finana is small-time enough to be groomed like a 2view indie, is what it means. I'm guessing, since I've never seen a Finana stream so I wouldn't know first hand. Probably her prominent twitter dudes invited her to a Discord in DMs or something.
>>29332599It's still up on her stream (excuse the phone post) it's 26 mins old. Unironically I still think Ame has healthy numbers, it's pretty obvious she's off doing something for herself, but she's been streaming consistently these past 3 weeks compared to before. The thing is that she just keeps playing the same damn games every day, she does well when she does her unique stuff like the Terrarium review or just 3D stuff but ER, Oblivion or Apex can only carry you so far.