/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>29288578
They don’t need me to save them. Going by CCV, they are doing way better than I expected

>>29288578
because they are doing fine

>>29288578
I'm not a homosexual

They are already close to the Stars top members

>>29288578
I mean they are doing way better then I thought. I was thinking literal starsJP tier by now. 3view shitters but here they are. And here you are.

>>29288656
This. Literally mogging Iluna.

>>29288578
It should be natural

>>29288578
>>29288656
>>29288658
>>29288688
>>29288725
>Muh they're already doing better than holostars
Not good enough, you must support the girls and the boys equally

>>29288578
they are doing insanely good, now let's hope they can help their senpais to grow

>>29288578
Unironically in the bubble of Holostars they’re doing great. Already cruised by Uproar (who were badly marketed), and already on the heels of Temma who took two and a half years to reach 120k subs.

They’ll be fine

>>29288578
I'm waiting to see if they play games I like.

>>29288862
I didn't care enough to watch the girls but I have watched every Tempus stream

>>29288578
They are doing fine.

I'm waiting for more streams to decide which bro i will follow.

>>29288578
>Be Regis
>Is leader
>Good looking model compared to Magni
>Have voice that get the fujos' attention
>About to get magged

>>29288862
there are no girls in holostars

>>29288578
Because i never wanted them around to begin with.

Quick, somebody post the Maglord numbers audio

>>29288862
i would rather support the men more because men are superior to women

>>29288578
If you want to save someone, please save Iluna’s cute trap instead. He is already at 5k on his 3rd stream…

>>29288578
i'll save them once they drop to 3 digits CCV, they are doing better than iluna right now and I don't see anyone saying they need saving

>>29288886
>Uproar (who were badly marketed)
I'm a Starsfag and I keep forgetting Uproar exists.

>>29288578
How the fuck did Nijis manage to MOG us in the male department

>>29288578
I'm not a cuck, why would I save them?

I'm subbed to the MagChad, literally doing my part

>>29288578
They don't need to be saved. It's Mori Gura and Ame who need help really.

>>29289047
this, but unironically

>>29289337
we are both being unironic then

>>29288578
I was only paid to promote them here, not to subscribe

>>29288886
>badly marketed
>they were plastered all over japan subways
The fuck more should they have done?

OP if you're really a MAGLORD, you should at least give the others a chance. Yes, Regis fucking sucks, but everyone is liking Vesper.

>>29288578
I don't actually care about them, I just want to use them to tribalfag. If they fall bellow Iluna in CCV I'll start shitposting them accordingly.

>>29289426
Pay anons to advertise it for them clearly

>>29288578
>only subs the magus
Tell me about it OP

>>29288578
They are gay (literally)

>>29288578
I'm surprised that not only magni don't have a clear lead, but noir is also lagging behind the blue dude, from what people say on this board I was expecting those two to have at least twice as much subs as the others

I'm watching the better debut group.

>>29288578
They're doing pretty damn well, their viewers aren't chinese so that's even better for them.

>>29289669
only good model there is the titty girl and not just because of her boobs. Great face too

>>29289480
Regis got massively better after his debut, it's pretty much just his voice that filters people now but Mag has no problem bantering about it

>>29289480
>regis fucking sucks
actually watch tempus instead of using them to meme fucker. he's turning into a bro tier kusogaki and an actual gen leader in record time

>>29288578
They don't need saving, they're doing better than anyone ever expected

>>29288862
Fuck equality.

>>29288862
I mean I do, it's not my fault that the redditors and clippers don't actually do the same after all the female vs male dramas they liked to talk about

>>29288862
Fuck off Omega

>>29288578
So far they're doing great but looking at the schedules I'm already bored of the management selection of "got too reception in the past" games.
It's like every fucking vtuber of the company is mandated to play a way out at some point.

>>29289047
Absolutely this, brother.

>>29288578
I'm not a cuck like most of vt

>>29289480
Thread reader, go watch streams instead of getting your information from /vt/. They are all good.

>>29288578
Orange bilingual Austr(al)ian has the least subs.

>>29288578
They aren't cute girls

>>29289480
wonder blue is getting better. hes got bit of cheek to him when throughout the entire collab the only time he wah'd was right at the end.
by the apex collab hes a lot less gay and more bro now so hes tolerable at least

>>29289825
Nah I agree with him, Regis kinda sucks. Only one that was completely off putting in their collabs.

>>29288578
Fuck off homos

>>29290166
regis' main selling points are his singing and his cello playing, both of which he has yet to do due to permissions.

>>29290170
>>29288688
is hanging out with male friends gay to you? Also these threads are made by people trying to garner hate towards the new gen.

How is Nijisanji's new gen mogging these guys so hard?

>>29290018
I don't like any female holoen chuubas plus these guys are going to do their own thing.

>>29290523

I'm noticing that for both the Holostars and new Nijis people are basing their entire opinions on their lackluster debuts while those that watched beyond the debuts are coming around to some of them.

Is this....the power of actually watching streams?

>>29290523
Well they do have a more established audience dedicated to male vtubers, especially on the en side of things. Also Holostars is it's own thing, so please try better bait.

>>29289047
Basado

>>29289825
>brotier kusogaki
Your brain so so fucking melted by gay shit you don't even know what a brotuber is

>>29290636
Magtard aren't you mogging them in views?

>>29290523
2 streams and already dead subs. They can't even go over 10k CCV. You can wrap shit in a gold foil but it's still shit

>>29290727
it's not about the numbers, anon

>>29288578
All 100K within a week, by Stars standards this has been an undisputed success

>>29288943
Mag has a huge past life buff. I'm not surprised.

>>29290716
He has surprisingly good taste, i hope the fujo lightning rod thing is true since he's turned down his wahs and shit.

>>29290727
I think the only competition for maglord is the alien boy. The rest I expect to fall off a cliff into finana tier viewership.

>>29290292
Lmao so he really is just fujobait, no thanks.

>>29288578
I don't care

>>29288578
Wow, that's sad. The boys in the last nijisanji got a boost simply by not being a male-only gen that everyone ignored.

>>29290807
>>29290897
So another flop branch?

>>29288578
Hololive begger posting on their own board? Not a good look.

>>29288578
They literally don't need saving. They're doing better than we could have hoped given how much people shat on them at the start and how rabid the unicorns were. None of the boys are displeased with their success.
Personally, I'm in the camp of being extremely pleasantly surprised by all of them. Regis sucked at first but even by the Apex Gorilla stream earlier he is getting loads better.

>>29288578
Stop using my broshis as bait you faggot

>>29291050
Perhaps you are trying to bait but please read >>29290680
>>29291106
He is baiting (obviously)

>>29291050
>half Pomys subs in like 2 days
oof

>>29288578
Because I don’t watch V-tubers

>>29290388
Do these guys not do the flirty shit the Nijisanji en guys do?

>>29288886
What is even uproar? It's not a new gen so what is it, what's the purpose?

>>29288578
they're homos

>>29291174
Noctyx also had shit numbers in the beginning. The only reason luxiem did so well was because they were the first male EN gen, so all the fujos gathered to them, including chink fujos.

>>29288800
MAGGING*

>>29291277
Fuck no, noir literally talked about hosting a dnd sesh, they are not fujo pandering, haven't you seen the brotuber phrase thrown around recently? Blue guy is the only iffy one there but even then he has good taste.

They had half those numbers on Saturday. I would have never thought I'd ever sub a male vtuber. But vesper and magni are just really good. Axel is solid too. But I don't fuck with blue boy

>>29289426
Let them collab with the women and do a marketing blitz to the actual viewers, not random people on the fucking transit.

>>29288578
Noir gets my view

>>29291525
he talked about Northernlion as his model streamer and wanted to do a daily thing like NL's TBOI series, his taste is great

>>29289774
there are two titty girls there though. as per personality I like shiina and her magical wonton recipe

>>29291525
They sure look like fujo bait. I preemptively blocked their channels. Maybe if some good clips come around i'll reconsider. Also role-playing game stuff didn't work out for myth.

>>29288578
They're doing incredibly well. Don't forget that it's a brand new EN branch from a Holopro spin-off nobody cared about in the west.
With the kind of growth they're having right now, the second gen will have at the minimum the same debut numbers that iLuna had.

>>29291543
yeah same. i avoided blue's streams but in all fairness he's been not that bad during collabs. i'm going all in with vesper though, dude fucking rocks.

>>29289669
any recommendations?

>>29290523
>>29288800
You have no idea how relieved I am that both sides can claim victory. It's amazing watching tribalists struggle.

Unity forever.

>>29291787
>Also role-playing game stuff didn't work out for myth.
Vesper mentioned that he really wants to play DnD with the boys and knows 2/3 are in, but is waiting for:
1. seeing if Magni likes it in the first place (doesn't want to stream something with the boys that not everyone's enjoying)
2. playing the first 3 or so sessions offstream
I think it'll be hard for it to go south like what happened with Myth.
Also on Vesper, his dad jokes stream was fantastic. You should give it a go.
fucking hell now i understand how homobeggars felt all these years

>>29291787
>They sure look like fujo bait
Fujos on twitter were shitting on vesper and magni the most, they had a huge debuff from the start with their designs. Their recent collab was especially great since they have really good chemistry, the entire board went from collectively hating to supporting them for a reason.

>>29289669
Fuck off phase shill
Reminder that Phase is financed by chinks

>>29291962
based unitychad
both sides won something, tribalfags seething harder than ever, it’s a good day to be a unitychad

>>29291787
>Also role-playing game stuff didn't work out for myth.
They're women.

>>29288578
ask yourself first goddamn hypocrite

>>29291787
>Also role-playing game stuff didn't work out for myth.
That's because myth sucks

>>29292167
>by golly it looks like the whole board loves fags now
Lying faggot

>>29288578
I dont sub to vtubers, I just use the dex. That being said the homos are unironic bros and would easily watch them over the nijis.

>>29288578
im not interested in them but they seem to be doing okay.

>>29289047
Based HoloStar chad

>>29288578
What happened to Axel? Wasn't he the second most popular next to Regis?

>>29288578
>cannot even stream Apex without severe scuff
This is what they get for picking 2views. Mag is the saving grave, and Noir being cute in a hurt puppy kind of war.

>>29288578
Oh no, a third group of HoloEN's flopped? color me surprised! Tick tock, EN will soon be on the chopping block.

>>29293108
>third
name the other two

>>29292945
nothing really, magni and nowa is just too good

>>29290388
Anon they are literally a bunch of gay/bi men being touchy feely with each other.

>>29293282
Council & Project: Hope (IRyS)

>>29293066
>saving grace*

>>29293108
Each day it's increasingly self-evident that Coco's involvement in creating Myth is what led them to success.

OH NO NO NO NO NO AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>29293542
Wasn’t he at 5k earlier? Also didn’t he have like a 90k+ debut? What the fuck?

>>29293341
did you... watch the streams?

>>29292606
They are really popular despite the very obvious and not only on this board, I get that you want to be a contrarian despite not ending up with a gen full of second rate voxes.

>>29293651
>people watching streams
>on /vt/
>in a bait thread populated by catalog niggers and thread readers
Come on anon

>>29293633
how many times do we need to tell you that twitter trannies dont watch streams normally? they tried appealing to them and it didnt work, time to go back to the tried and true method of nijiCN fujo pandering

>>29292606
They are really popular despite the very obvious debuffs to their models and not only on this board, I get that you want to be a contrarian despite not ending up with a gen full of second rate voxes.

>>29293633
The debuts were tailored for viral success. Now he is performing like normal niji male.

>>29289669
wow these designs look boring

I wouldn't mind the guys if I was sure they'd stay in their lane so to speak. The dynamic of mono gender group is different than a mixed one. Can't have both.

So, basically:
Blue haired Regis Altare whose name souns like King and Altar, probably smashes the bratty sussy of the Atlantis queen shork
Magni's Calli's along with his dad jokes and magnum shaft
Axel is the cool dude that Ame smashes
And Noir is Ina's, they do it with the lights off, too shy

>>29293824
It seems that Holos always do very well after debut, and they decline after that. The question is if they can keep that initial audience.

>>29293542
>numbers don't matt- wait hololive is winning? haha take that nijiniggers

>>29288578
Noir gets about 10k every stream I don’t need to
I can save wah man and dog boy though

>>29288578
Why should I? Stop begging and kys

>>29293459
Why do you Cocofags keep parroting this meme? The EN division was already planned before Coco even debuted.
>B-Buh Coco was a pillar for to popularize HoloEN because she spoke english!!!!!!
So was Haato, HoloID and 2 of HoloCN.

It seems that if you want an instant big success you need to follow the Gura or Desuwa formula. Pick a proven talent with a significant existing audience, then give them a new model with a really good design, and make sure to market them heavily. Elevating small talents is nice and all, but if they are not gonna generate as much hype.

This is such a pointless discussion, if hololive is losing in ccv then is the subs that matter, if they have less subs then it's the superchats, if they're losing in superchats it's actually the merch sales that matter, and when everything fails who cares check this woke tweet from the nijinigger
I don't understand why the hololive fanbase allow this kinda of tribalist cancer to have a voice and I refuse to believe they just hate nijisanji so much that they pretend it's ok to let people like this be the face of their community

>>29293824
>contrarian
What is this "The Secret" kind of stuff? I bet you fags are into that kinda soccer mom shit. Most of the board is ignoring you because nothing interesting happened. Half of your fag-panderers are nijiniggers. You people are second-class citizens and always will be, when the numbers dip and you start collab-begging you'll be reminded of that

>>29294334
I am not a Coco fan and I collected info from people /here/. From what I can gather it's clear Coco heavily promoted the creation of EN, participated in the auditions, might have given some input in the picking process, and then heavily marketed Myth in her streams.

>>29290716
brotuber is guy who will suck his friends cock on stream
this is what bros do

>>29294574
>>>/lgbt/
I think you're on the wrong board Nijitranny

>>29294749
This board is gayer tho.

>>29294560
>dude win the algorithm game to gain millions of subs like gura and salome!
if only it were that easy

>>29288578
They are literally averaging what no starsJP ever had

>>29294334
And then never collabed with them once until she wanted to take their viewers with her to her other account. What a fucking bitch

>>29294875
it actually is how you get millions of subs believe it or not, it's just not easy

>>29289046
I got the video saved instead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pj9fjB0YhU

>>29290388
Might as well watch a flesh streamer if I'm going to be watching men.

>>29294976
Woops

>>29294976
Is for
>>29294730

>>29294875
The point is that their success wasn't algorithmic, it was based on things like engagement, marketing, and character design. None of that is random.

>>29295008
Go ahead, I just like these streamers because they have good strengths.

>>29294976
>>29295059
Everyone here says that management blocked Coco's collabs with EN. I also saw a clip where she basically implies she was being cockblocked by an unnamed entity.

>>29289825
stop being delusional, regis fucking sucks.

>>29295357

>>29290388
>>29290170

>>29291912
I feel like Gentoo is very solid overall but also lacks power member/s.
Erina is one to an extent I suppose, if you like that type of vtuber.
Personally I like Airi.

>Doing better than Uproar.
Why do they need saving? Nobody expected to do better than the girls. They look like they are on the way to overtake Roberu in like a month or two.

>>29291787
>Also role-playing game stuff didn't work out for myth.
Don't blame the game son, blame the player.

>>29291787
Mori was the DM and the one responsible for planning the streams. In what universe could that have gone well

>>29295617
If you think males hanging out is gay then I don't know what to tell you, if they have done some faggot ass shit then link it but other wise they seem ok.

>>29295684
I liked the TTRPG. It had its issues but I happily watched each episode.

>>29290807
Wait, are you talking about the new homos or the new nijis?

>>29288862
>Not good enough, you must support the girls and the boys equally
I do. Haven't watched the girls in months. Swallowed the indy pill.

>>29295181
How was Gura "marketed" into success when HoloEN hadn't got proper promotion until almost a year after they've debuted? Her success primarily sprung off simply because she was the trend of anime culture at the time(and still somewhat is) just like Bowsette, Hestia, and all the meme designs that came before her.

You can't purposely go viral, it's just happens.

>>29293907
Kiara always gets left behind huh

>>29293542
Please don't mind me, I'm someone who wants both sides to lose. Just let me show you something.

>>29296399
>1 more view
WE WON

>>29296399
Both sides are not going to lose by any measure, both sides can rake in money by just staying above 500 views.

>>29288886
I thought that Domyoji would gain popularity since he joined the Holostars in his reincarnation, but he was only popular because of his relationship with the group, and after he joined the Holostars, there was no buzz about him at all.
Unless more outside collaborations are made, the Holostars will honestly have a hard time gaining popularity due to their low name recognition. just like AKB, the Holostars are now in a state where people know the group name but not the members.

>>29296043
Going by their recent performance, both with debut buffs? He probably was talking about Nijis. I meant, just look at Aster and Kyo's streams. Or anyone whose name wasn't Ren (the only one who managed to break 10k on his second stream) for that matter.

sorry I know it's unusual nowadays but I'm not gay

>>29296399
>barely at 3k
>even with the debut buff
I thought le epic redditors loved them

>>29289669
I'd rather watch uncle nowa than any of this boring hoes. Just more of the same shit.

>>29293542
NOOOOOO MY CCV HELP ME VOX

>>29296399
>not even 1 hr stream
How could management be so stupid?

>reddit doesn't care about the homos
>twitter doesn't care about the homos
>youtube doesn't care about the homos
why are you niggers shilling them so hard? just let them die so that cover never tries this again

>>29296399
He was so cute during that stream hope he's completely past that dark time he mentioned

>>29293542
IT DOESNT MATTER YOU FAGGOT HES SUCCESSFUL LOOK AT HIS SUB COUNT NOOOOOOOOOOO HOLOSTARS ARE A DUD AND A FAILTURE

>>29297242
We don't use that word here please go back.

>>29296902
Noir got 7.somethingK on his zatsu today.

>>29293542
>CCV
>Subs
>Live Viewers
>You will never achieve all 3
>Unless you are Salome, then for some reason all of the money is china yuan money so it doesn't count

>>29297416
peaked at around low 8kish

>>29297416
*8k

>>29296902
That guy was under-performing. All other HomoEN did better
>Noir got 8.1k on a zatsu earlier
>Maggy got 13.9k (drawing + zatsu) and 7.5k (gaming)
>Orange got 9.9k (Escape Sim) and 9k (Apex)
Dunno why blue is underperforming, though. Maybe playing Zelda wasn't a good idea

>>29297416
>declining
Based

>Kyo and Regis: We're just males /vt/, we're meant to be ignored
>/vt/: Not to me

>>29297242
I didn't care about the homos because I thought they would be pandering to fujo / yumejo like Vox. Now that all 4 of them have proven to be brotubers so far, I'm cheering for them.

>>29289043
Your oshi literally knows there names and talks to them and will never know you even exist

>>29297647
Zelda is a debuff franchise and streams being limited to one hour makes it even worse

>>29297760
Reminder that Gura saw a sign with the names of the JP homos that played in the Minecraft ID server and refused to say them.

>>29297778
>Playing TP with a one hour limit
Who came up with this stupid idea.

>>29297716
Apparently he got 8k but I think it's alright for a zatsu, I think if he got a better schedule then he'd have more.

>>29297953
Gura hard dropped any semblance of being a free thinking individual when, on the eve of their debut, she pumped out maid girl and cat girl ASMR roleplay

>>29297717
Just a week ago I had no desire to watch them. Now I'm making sure I don't miss a stream... I'm sorry for ever doubting you, Yahoo.

>>29297647
Zelda's a huge debuff. Literally the worst choice to play just days after your debut.

>>29297994
vesper could have gotten a few more thousands if he only tweeted

>>29298054
>mindbreaking doomposters left and right
And thats why she's so based.

>>29296331
>How was Gura "marketed" into success
Because Coco heavily promoted Myth, and she was the biggest VTuber in the West. Gura's pl was also doing some insane collabs at the same time she got picked.

>>29298107
https://twitter.com/noirvesper_en/status/1552041211573071872

>>29297953
She's on top and it has to arguably deal with the biggest schizos and pedos So staying on brand is her usual m o It's probably just a safety concern she probably has to deal with a lot of crazy shit as is behind the scenes

>>29298107
>Noir didn’t tweet his stream
>Regis is playing a massive debuff game
>Magni, Regis, and Axel did an apex gorilla stream at dead hours
why are they so retarded

>>29297647
People already mentioned that Zelda is a debuff but it's made even worse by the 1 hour schedule on a game that you want multi-hour sessions on. His first stream also got absolutely eviscerated by falling into huge overlap hours, and this kind of thing has serious lasting effects on early numbers historically. A lot of people that might've watched part 2 won't now because they missed part 1 watching Nijisanji debuts.

For reference, Magni wasn't doing any better than Regis when he started his first post-debut stream until the Nijisanji debuts ended and he ballooned up over 10k. Regis is going to be fucked for a long time before the question of how good he actually is even comes up.

>>29298292
that apex stream on dead horus got 9k so that is fine.

Unironically, why is MALES in Hololive such a huge ass thing while every other corpo or twitch group doesn't even bat an eye about it
>Inb4 Nijinigger, 2view

>>29298292
Just like my retarded girl oshi. They fit right in

>>29288578
no pity subs

>>29298491
It's because Cover is still trying to pretend they are an idolshit company.

>>29298491
Because no matter how mad this makes some people, Cover is still an idol company

>>29298626
>>29298663
like poetry

>>29298292
The first 20 minutes of the apex stream was so fucking scuffed it looped back around to being kino. The rest was pretty funny too.

>>29289426
>advertising vtubers outdoors
horrible marketing

>>29298663
>Because no matter how mad this makes some people, Cover is still an idol company

>>29298723
"I haven't had solace in 10 years" was fucking hilarious, it's great that they have interacted before.

>>29293792
I don't even read threads lol

>>29299178
based nothingreader

>>29291787
>Good clips
Here you go anon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvzO-buAqSA&ab_channel=TempusClipsHolostarsEN

>>29288578
For males? They’re doing better than expected.

>>29298491
The homostar fanbase was the worst thing that ever happened to Hololive, it's only natural we don't want Homo cancer combined with EN cancer

>>29298782
Mori can cry about it all she wants, she will never be Coco. All she can do is seethe in her wigger disstracks

>>29306088
Mag memes were spread by a ton of different tourists and people were and still are using tempus as bait, there was already a portion of the fanbase who wanted some type of bro dynamic.

>>29305448
>first clip that appears is two of them having an awkward, stilted conversation playing a garbage game
Why did you lie to be anon?

>>29306488
I'm talking about the JP stars, newfag. JP stars has the shittiest self-pitying beggar fanbase. That desperate, cringy Mag shit that was getting spread to desperately try and boost numbers after how much everyone hated the reveal is only the beginning. There's a reason M*le is a dirty word here

>>29288578
There's no saving them from holobronies

>>29306734
There a ton of good clips, I personally find the one where vesper was confused about twitter to be good, the new a way out playthrough should have some good clips too.

>>29288578
I don't want simps and normiefags to sub to them. They'll ruin our boys. Remember in school where the main boy group is mostly bros from different levels but not every male is part of it? That's us. Losers who can't humor and who fantasize way too much on girls are not welcome.

>>29307236
stop trying to appeal to this guy lol.

>>29290523
Chinks and bots (which are the same thing really, if you think about it)

>>29307084
Nijiniggers using "muh holobronies" like it's an insult is peak Nijinigger behaviour

>>29288578
they are mogging some EN chubas (ame) and have ok numbers for holostar standards
no need saving

>>29288656
Their doing amazing after everyone doomposted them as fujobait 3view shitters.

Their all already over 100k subs, get over 4k to 9k views a stream and people aren't shitting on their designs anymore. It's wild.

>>29288656
honeymoon period

>>29307236
>he talks about ratioing
I feel like im really just not the audience for this. You were earnest so I did want to try

>>29289047
Peak male mentality right here

>>29298723
Mag trauma dump and Axel being "That rough buddy but anyway" is just top kek

>>29295684
I blame the DM actually

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Category: Special

Battle Effect:
The user attacks in an uproar for three turns. Over that time, no one can fall asleep.

PP: 10
Base Power: 90
Accuracy: 100

>>29288862
I barely ever watch the girls though.