/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

this one

filian is based

womp womp

mai waif

waiten for next saffox strem

Did Shylily peak?

>>29280483
no

>>29280431
is there porn of your waif

Gee Bill! How come your mom lets you have two /lig/s?

>>29280507
Prove it.

I've fallen in love with a whore

>>29280483
She will peak around 20,000 views.
This does not mean we like her though

>>29280534
Yes! They have a tag for it

>>29280431
for me its the scientist

>>29280431
Your wife is stupid, stinky, hairy and I love her very much

>>29280625
How is she gonna double when she can hardly break 10k and is declining?

>>29280625
we do like her

>>29280696
>>29280698
is Sigrid hairy too?

>>29280625
>we

>>29280742
Completely hairless. Yin and Yang. The odd couple. Opposites attracting.

>>29280777
You heard me

>>29280782
fucking gross

>>29280822
>heard

>>29280707
10k is a lot and she’s not declining
Listen I don’t think she’s interesting at all. She knows what the drooling autists like and I salute her and don’t begrudge her success

>>29280827
They can’t BOTH be fucking gross

Does any of your opinion effect any streamers? Who has the most /vt/ viewers?

>>29280896
yeah only Sigrid is, as I said

>>29280921
Sigrid is a sexy tall mean bully

>>29280625
I bought this little bastard
I'm obligated to like her

>>29280909
I don't watch Layna but apparently I made her cry once.
I am the One Guy.

>>29280949
CUUTE

Giant saggy tits.

>>29280946
sure but she shaves and that's gross

>>29280909
No sir. Nobody one guy'd by /lig/ ever and never will be. Nope.

>>29281010
I keep seeing her retweet this guy's art, but apparently he draws ten times as much as she retweets. I wish he was at least better at it.

Bella live
https://www.twitch.tv/beyumi_

>>29280867
Her growth has 100% plateaued analytically and her average viewer count is down tremendously.
You are coping.

>>29281167
I have no dog in this fight. I just observe where the autists flock and she holds their gaze

>>29281167
that is not true, you're tremendously exaggerating.

>>29280963

>>29280909
Shylily unironically probably has the most /vt/ viewers and it probably only makes up like 30 people in her chat. This place is irrelevant.

>>29281010
not big enough

>>29281275
Not to the women are easily oneguy’d
Not to the /here/ but relatively sane chuubas

>>29281275
This place is vastly more relevant than its size would suggest. The brutal honesty you'll find from anons makes every post have more weight than a dozen others in Discord or whatever hugboxes they'd normally be in.

numi's thighs..

>>29281434
>The brutal honesty
kek

>>29281434
Is brutal honesty ever valuable? I imagine a streamer knows whats best for them and their stream more than a brutally honest viewer.

Actually the brutal honesty could even hurt because spaces like this can be gatekeeping as fuck. Even more so for indie vtubers.

>>29281519
I'm brutally honest, anon. It's the cold hard truth that I want to drink Saruei's pee.

>>29281434
everyone who thinks they're 'brutally honest' is just an asshat
there's no reason to cater to them

>>29281434
That would be true if people were actually honest instead of shitposting. Nobody should ever take anything on this board seriously.

>>29281434
it's not really brutally honest. Maybe in comparison to other places, but only barely. What's more true is that there are no real alternatives. Reddit is dead for non-holos. Discords are too segregated. Twitter is no place for discussion. What else is there? All ego-searches lead here.

>>29281434
>brutal honesty

one day I'll sell this place as brutally honest and I'll make tons of money

Letting a single letter typed in this board effect someones channel would be the dumbest mistake a person could ever make.

>>29281519
Well yeah. Even outright offensive and hostile posts have more weight, because they're posted anonymously. It suggests they're not posted just to upset the chuuba themself, unlike a DM or a post in their Discord would. It's like talking behind someone's back.

>>29281555
Just depends on what anons are being honest about. It can both be useful and especially hurting. If someone's shit-talking the quality of a streamer, decline of it or something like that, it can obviously be very useful.

>>29281688
But see, people who aren't asshats will be brutally honest when anonymous. That's the whole point. Someone who is brutally honest in-person or with a nickname, is obviously an asshat, so a chuuba reading their post will treat it as such.
But read that same post written anonymously and it obviously has all the more weight. It's like hearing someone talk behind your back.

>>29281880
no one will take you seriously if you say this place is brutally honest.

>>29281731
Sure, but the comparison matters a lot.

>>29281927
Why would that matter? We're anonymous.

>>29282029
>we

>>29282143
Yes, we are leejun. Get your post-2016 /pol/ meme out of here.

>>29282143

>>29281755
I am completely serious Yuzu I will suck your cock contact me.

>>29282143
where are the vocaroos, buff

>>29281880
But talking about the quality of a stream is pointless. Talking about it just your opinion. Streamers have much more valuable analytics on the quality of their streamers that aren't opinion based.

My liggers are not live today.
shill me someone

>>29282380
Watch me.

>>29282380
>>29281140

>>29282286
Yuzu is a girl. She just sounds like a tranny. And that’s why we love her.

>>29281880
I think you have it the wrong way around. An anonymous opinion carries far less weight because it lacks any context. Nobody reading any of your posts has any idea who you are and whether or not your opinion should actually matter.
Most actually helpful feedback comes from people who know what they're talking about, and perhaps more importantly, you know that they know what they're talking about.

>>29282341
This is wrong. Critics and audience opinions matters to most artists. And while there are a handful of chuubas who don’t give a fuck what’s said here, others get easily oneguyed and others don’t take it too seriously but like to read what they’re saying for reasons of curiosity and ego

kino coming soon my fellow snuffybros

>>29282784
Snuffy idea without execution #2352345

>>29282784
When snuffy can be bothered to be creative she is the best vTuber out there by a considerable margin

Buffpup seems cool, shame I never catch her streams tho.

Also goes to show how much a model matters, I wouldn't have given her the time of day if she was still using that scuffed old one.

>>29282380
Same, the only one I watch currently live is Cirno, there's really no one live right now.

>>29282784
unfortunately shes also probably cancelling her vrc stream today because she got stressed out trying to fix her office door or something

>>29282864
okay I love snuffy but let's not go that far

>>29281731
My dream is to have a Fediverse instance for each chuuba. Imagine having a decentralized social networking site dedicated to each chuuba/corpo, and then having a tab on that site where you could see and interact with users from every other chuuba's instance.

>>29282942
Buffpup model is pretty good until she puts it in that furry toggle and I toggle the stream off.

>>29282341
And many, if not most, people place vastly more weight on voiced opinions than statistics and heuristics. When you add a human "voice" to something, it starts bearing far more weight on a person than all the statistics and all the masses. Especially if it's negative. Why do you think streamers keep getting oneguy'd?
If someone's looking to improve their stream, which do you think holds more value, actual written words with arguments and details, or just CCV numbers and ad revenue calculations?

>>29282679
It doesn't lack context. The context of it is that it's anonymous. It's something said with zero identity involved and with nothing traceable to the person saying it. That is extremely meaningful. Anonymity allows people to open their hearts and speak truth regardless of social approval and consequences. Things they would never dare say in public, but think are true.
>Most actually helpful feedback comes from people who know what they're talking about, and perhaps more importantly, you know that they know what they're talking about.
And? Do streamers only care about other streamers and their views? I don't know about you, but in my own field, the opinions and views of the "viewers" are just as important to me as peer review. They're the intended audience after all, the people the service is produced for.

>>29283047
>Fediverse
kek

>>29283113
the furry toggle makes it even better

>>29283119
Yea surely. If I say a streamer is dogshit and washed up while they are getting thousands of views and multiplying their view count monthly.

My opinion of them being trash is WAY more valuable than their analytics.

You have brain rot.

>>29282942
Buffpup is a delight. She’s a cool big sister

>>29283113
>imagine not being a furry in 2022

>>29282942
I do think model matters but sometimes they don't matter at all. Like the metrics of what makes a model "good" seems to be all over the place and then you have anomalies like Filian who don't even use a real one.

>>29283265
And if a streamer is declining, has plateau'd or has slowed their growth down and has started looking for answers and someone posts a paragraph's long post detailing why they're disappointed and dropping them, that's obviously going to hold weight to them.
But why are we constructing specific scenarios in support of our own views like this? I almost wanna listen to instincts and think you're being insecure about something.

>>29283404
The model she's using is still good, even if it's publicly available. Pretty well fits her character too.

>>29283265
Nice strawman

And streamers absolutely don't have good statistcs to base their decisions on, a stream or part of a stream depends on so many factors, was someone else streaming, was something special happening like a public holiday, was my last stream good enough to get people to he k out this one, did a clip go viral, was I mentioned by a bigger streamer 10 minutes ago... Trying to figure that out is hard, and I've seen streamers even claim that a certain game doesn't do well when in fact it was one of their all time highest view game, even when they have the data they still suck at interpreting it. Someone directly saying "I like this, I did not like this" is orders of magnitude easier to work with than the numbers

>>29283145
Yeah the name is pretty funny with how popular fedposting is but it gets its name from the word "federated"; It's actually the best option we have for social media right now in terms of technology and user freedom. It works like email does, anyone can set up and host their own instance and have full control over it. And then you can connect your instance to the greater network and interact with people in other instances. Get banned from an instance you joined or don't like how it's being run? Just join another one or make your own.

>>29283618
I know what it is and its a fragmentation nightmare, perfect for tribalfags though.

>>29283448
>Use example of why what you are saying is bullshit
>Backpedals
>Schizo posts
Ok

>>29283674
No its not

>>29283119
>the opinions and views of the "viewers"
That assumes a random anon is a viewer or even a potential viewer.
Imagine if you got a grabbag of anonymous posts, written by an unknown number of people that have some opinion on your industry regardless of if they're your clients or even potential clients. How seriously would you take them?

Speaking of models.
Who has the best model but the worst content/stream?
And who has the worst model but the best content/stream?

>>29282957
I've been dipping in and out of Cirno's IWBTB stream, it's fun and he seems cool. But honestly it just makes me nostalgic for Floe's IWBTB streams from like a decade ago (if anyone /here/ even knows who that is). So I think I might spend this downtime trying to find those old VODs.

More chuubas should play it though, it's a fun kaizo game.

>>29283681
Yeah, you used an example that's one possible scenario among thousands of others. Inductive reasoning built on a single example is as schizo as me trusting my gut instinct on thinking you're insecure.

>>29283824
Best Model Bad Stream: GirlDM or Saruei
Best Stream Bad Model: OniGiri or Filian

>>29283824
>best model but the worst content/stream
Tricky, not even a contest
>worst model but the best content/stream
actually can't think of any of my favorite liggers that have a bad model so I can't answer this