/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

she needs a good magging, thatll put a spring in her step

this still feels like the most forced outrage in the entire board
it took me like 3 days after her stream to even understand what people were mad at

>>29199263
There's a retard who's been obsessed with "goslingfags" for the last 3-4 months using IRyS and Ame. Since the Q&A stream, he disappeared and we have these threads instead. You tell what's going on

roru
rumao
no, op
youre just a faggot

>>29199124
It sounds ungrateful because you're a clip watcher and thread reader, and you only know her in the context of shitposts and crying unicorns.

>>29199124
shes just boring honestly, like she works too hard offstream to have energy to be fun on stream despite all the creatovidad
don't care at all about your retarded unicorn drama if you're wondering

>>29199263
that's cause you're stupid

>>29199124
She just ditched her fans to try to get some coworker cock, there's nothing wrong with a girl having a semen addiction.
I don't blame her, some people just can't be helped.

>>29199124
nope
I'm not a retard, so it didnt bother me

>>29199124
this thread feels like bait but when i took a look at this drama im astounded on how fragile some vtuber fans are like holy shit im not even a teamate and i thoughtt this was a huge nothing burger maybe you should improve yourselves

>>29199485
You're missing the point. Why would someone who doesn't like her attitude be watching her in the first place? In order for people to watch a vtuber, they actually have to find that chuba endearing. Not many people are gonna watch a chuba just to see if the impression they have of them is wrong.

As someone who has shit on Amelia for probably too long honestly, she has always been overly restrictive and hostile towards her chat for no discernible reason from day one.
Some people like that. More power to them. If you're a person that's putting yourself out there and don't want people pulling down the guillotine I could understand it.
Amelia is just a normal girl that should be a lot more humble about where she is at but instead decides to be uppity and stifling.
The shitposting will continue until conditions improve.

>>29199124
Her latest member stream was said to be one of the best, so it might be that you just watch Amelia on clips or casual streams.
It might be true for an outside watcher, like most cases.

>>29199941
Implying people will pay to member a chuba they don't already like.

>>29199840
>As someone who has shit on Amelia for probably too long honestly, she has always been overly restrictive and hostile towards her chat for no discernible reason
there is not a more obvious way to out yourself
also you apparently lack the mental capacity to notice when someones being sarcastic

>>29199124
Oh boy. Here comes the astroturfing

>>29199747
not bait i really mean it
it is a small thing, but isnt that every single drama ever?
and besides, I always had the impression of ame being this astronomically good, sympathetic and nice and it just completely broke after that qna

>>29199124

>>29199840
>Amelia should be a lot more humble about where she is at
Never watched Ame I see

>>29199840
nice larp, you dont watch her
>more humble about where she is at but instead decides to be uppity and stifling
she is extremely humble,watch streams
>she has always been overly restrictive and hostile towards her chat for no discernible reason
you're either an autist or ESL

>>29199840
>>29199124
It's a little bit like a domino effect, lot of Vtuber lowkey thrash their audience, but it's kinky. But Ame during that part was serious, and that make all her previous hostility sound actualy hostile and not kinky anymore. even when it wasn't you who where adressed.

>>29199124
Unironically yes.
She just kind of runs me the wrong way more and more as time goes on.

>>29200063
Kek as soon as you wrote that they came out in droves. So predictable.
Not gonna lie, there's a good person piloting Amelia in there somewhere, but she certainly doesn't take center stage.

>>29199124
It might be time to find a different hobby. Not for the sake of appeasing her demand of you, but to give yourself space to reconsider how fucked up you've become to be that distraught over the words of a 2D whore. Apparently the shoe fits, so this was going to happen to you sooner or later.
Take a shower while you're at it, why don't you?

>>29199941
i used to be a member, i would play fallout newvegas with her karaokes as bgm and would smile all steam long. but as
>>29200010 stated, i cancelled membership after he streams stopped feeling nice
i wanted to re-member just to check the aquarium one, cuz everyone saying is really good, but i'm scared

>>29199124
I watch more Mumei now

>>29200182
wtf did i misstype?

>>29199124
This bitch was annoying and bitchy from the very get-go, I have no idea how anyone got into her, let alone gosling'd for her.

>>29199124
Thanks for the feedback lol

>knows you're too emotionally invested
>sees that you need help that she cannot give
>wants you to improve your life and become more successful, even if it means she'll never see you again
>you turn around and spit in her eye
You don't deserve her, goslingfags.

>>29200392
it does feel like that

>>29200149
>paying money out of her own pocket to make a 3d studio for myth
>commissioning the 3d world and models for myth anniversary
>helping kiara make her concert possible
>helped make council collab possible
>always helps EN with tech issues
>literally raised 200,000 dollars for an animal charity
do you perhaps have a case of major brain damage?

>>29199124
Kiara would be happy to take photos with KFP and Ame would call the cops on a teamate if they entered within 50ft of her. Really says a lot.

>>29200471
fuck man i want to go back, she used to make me so happy

>>29200735
No, I mean towards ME specifically. I don't care about anyone else.

>>29199124
>*Streamer* Used to be
>Anyone else feel the same?
>I'm not even *self labeling title*
Right lol...

>>29200711
my guy, if she said
>"if ur against male collabs, maybe you are a little too atatched to me, im sorry bu i cant give you what you want, do something else"
i would be fine with it, i just didnt apreciate the cockiness of the way she said it, know what i mean?

>>29199124
Watch a streamer that is good at something instead

>>29200735
Even as a big anti I'll admit Amelia does a lot of good. Her terrarium works are excellent and I can appreciate her charity to animals. I like that side of Ame. Animals can sense bad people and it's obvious she is a good person deep down.
Unfortunately she's very abrasive and you have to walk on eggshells around her in chat so...until she removes the caps lock rule and I see a clip of Ame just stepping back and being chill there's no reason not to shitpost on her.

>>29200735
thats what im saying, she did all this good things for the people around her, but when it comes to te fanbase that made it all possible, she acted ungrateful, self-centered and narcisistic, its the gap that is making me uncunfortable watching her

>>29201059
i meant that i dont care about er collabing with males, so the "improve yourself" wasn't directed at me, and even then, it made me feel unwelcome

>>29200392
learn english

>>29199263
>this still feels like the most forced outrage in the entire board
because it is

>>29201560
i was
he was
you where

cry about it

>>29200812
Yea I won't lie I still watch and enjoy her but I feel it's been less and less since
"thanks for the feedback, lol"
and it's just been piling up from there. It just feels like she genuinely dislikes her fans and idol stuff more and more as time goes on and she even removed that she wanted to be an idol from her bio.
Feels bad

>>29199124
>streamers who treat their chat with contempt make their viewers feel contemptible
Who could have seen it coming?

>>29201568
>Gura simply exists

>>29200735
>Fans are responsible for all this
>She still treats them like bottom of the barrel dogshit.
I think that's what OP is talking about anon.

>>29199124
Improve yourself and adapt to the new Ame

>>29202093

>>29202254
Who's the new Ame?

I think being the creative one just puts Ame's autism under intense strain, this is the same woman that has like 10 football field sized worth of data of assets she commisioned and either never used or used only once.
Or maybe she just likes the tech side of things, would rather work behind the camera than in front off it.

Love that the remaining teacucks are a lost cause, imagine having Ame as his oshi unironically. The teacucks are the worst fanbase now, even the deadcucks and the fancucks are above them. Only the tourists, twittards and vshitshow fans remains as her fanbase. Spoonfeding:
>Ame getting BTFO'D by the legendary pony user >>28410762
>Removing idol from her "about" on Youtube(pic related).
>https://files.catbox.moe/iufg13.webm

>>29202243
NOOOOO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND FANS ARE NOT ENTITLED TO ANYTHING THEY ARE LITERALLY WORTHLESS AND COULD ALL LEAVE AND COVER WOULD STILL BE A BILLION DOLLAR CORPORATION
The people who blame the fans are retarded bud.

>>29199432
You can call him mikofag. He pretty much admitted to doing these bait threads and posts in /nasfaq/

>>29199124
I like it when I was just listening silently and someone in the chat said something retarded, then she proceeded to sperg out and shat the entire chat.

and ofc the scatmates would only type :heh: :heh: :heh:

>>29202477
>now
Teamates have always been the worst fanbase because they are the only fanbase that raids vt from their discords.

>SEABronies still seething and spamming threads over their nothingburger drama

>>29202243
You fucking act the part.

>>29202726
Huh? The only one?
You've seen the chumbuds?

>>29202783
Isn't it too early for SEAfags to be awake for this thread?

>>29202850
The "chumbuds" that raid here do it through the Teamate discord. And yes I know some of the admins from the gawrdian discord raid here with them.

>>29202783
>they're actually calling that guy the legendary pony user
my fucking sides

Finana:
>gets freaked out because of the usage of the word "trap" in her chat
>made a condescending post on Twitter about people educating themselves
>got backlash from both sides on twitter, reddit and 4chan
>had to apologize on stream
>her numbers are down the drain, both CCV and superchat

Amelia:
>clarified she wants to focus on solo content but is not opposed to big group collabs with Tempus despite not being her forte
>tell people obsessed with any kind of male interaction to use their energy to improve themselves
>nothingburger maximus, nothing on other places besides 4chan
>only got 2-3 schizos mass spammimg threads for 1 day, one of them being an actual verified brony
>all of her core audience and superchatters don't care, and are replying normally to comments and members posts

>>29202564
yeah all these thread are made by that one guy,
actually, every single thread here was made by him, all dramas, antis, fujos, unicorns, simps, it was all him
the entire internet is just two guys, mr.mikoposter(me) and you, believe it or not

>>29203231
teacuck deflection

>>29202477
>even the deadcucks... are above them
Lets not get crazy now anon

>>29202477
>calling a mudslime filipino horsefucker a legendary user
Holy kek antis can't be this pathetic can they?

>>29199840
It's called ghetto mentality. Being confrontational and skeptical is how you survive growing up ratchet. It extended to discarding her brother's advice about fish oil pills before Ame was told the same from one of her trips to the doc

>>29203253
calm down mate. else you're going to overdose on copium

>>29203231
good for her

>>29202243
fans are the worst baggage vtubers have. Being paypigs that let the chubas continue to do shit doesn't make them less insufferable.

>>29203231
Are her numbers about the same?

>>29199263
If you're not a unicorn, most of the outrage is just retarded. I just see vtubers as entertainers.

>>29203851
Yeah actually, her ER stream yesterday had higher numbers than the last one despite the 3-way overlap

>>29202243
You let Ame do the crybaby voice, mock you to your face constantly and would have allowed this to continue if only she didn't mock you about the Homostars (who she clearly also doesn't give a shit about) and now you turn on her?
See the issue here? You're pathetic masochists who liked getting abused by Ame, admit it because there is no other explanation for this.

>>29204015
Damn well good for her. I thought for sure she would take a hit

>>29199124
The only cure is rape correction

>>29204042
the crybaby voice and banter had a totally different tone

>>29199840
Her chat is the worst in all of EN. She treats them better than they deserve.

>>29202414
the one that hates her unicorn gosling fans and wants to collab with the male ENs

>>29203316
Now that you mention it I do recall Amelia talking about having a less than steady life growing up. Wouldn't wish that on anyone.
I don't want Amelia to fail. In a perfect world I would shitpost hard enough to cause a moment of weakness where Amelia gave her fans a chance to pick her up. To really see every person behind those lines of text and know that those real people actually care for her. That though this entire vtuber premise is fake, those people are real.
I think any reasonable person would accept the role of villain in that scenario.

>>29199124
Same, i don't want to hate her like Mori but it's hard to watch ame now. I'll just probably come back to her stream on her anniversary or birthday

>>29204152
see for yourself, her ddv has clearly taken a considerable hit, look at the avereges before and after the marshmellow

>>29199263
I have been lurking this place for months and I am yet to see a legitimate reason to be outraged. Vtubers have literally never done anything wrong.

>>29203687
You're a fucking retard, without fans they would have nothing dumb fuck, boohoo when you are funded by people you owe them for giving you money for literally 0 reason

>>29205032
you will have a better time on twitter and reddit with the rest of the yes-men like you

>>29203231
>>all of her core audience and superchatters don't care, and are replying normally to comments and members posts
Bronies and rewriting history, is there a more iconic duo?
Ame's been bleeding audience and superchatters for ages, she filtered the shit out of them by being a cunt, nevermind the fact that this happened well before her comments improving yourself.
No clue why your bring up Finana other than Nijisanji living rent free in your head like everyone else on this board, the situations where entirely different.

You're also completely wrong on her viewership and superchat, its exactly the same as before.

>>29204623
That's really nice actually.
I too don't like to shit on Ame, i just feel that Hololive is not her place.
Considering how awful her life was i'm glad she finally made it.
But really, she can transfer to VShojo instead of wrecking Hololive, she will most likely keep 80% of her fans and still be able to make good money.

>>29199124
>I'm not even a unicorn.
You sound like you would be if you actually watched streams.

>>29202243
This

>>29205328
hello zhang

>>29205032
That's because you take your meds like a good boy.

>>29199124
Can you guys just go away instead of making a thread about it?

>>29205540
the brony is still starved for attention please understand

>>29205365
HOW ARE YOU VSHOJO SHILLS FUCKING EVERYWHERE

you guys sound really pathetic, just be a chad like me, never subscribed to any vtuber, never paid for a membership and never donated, I just watch clips.

holofags been gassing these talentless dogshit streamers up

>>29205328
>Ame's been bleeding audience and superchatters for ages
Stats or gtfo

>>29205540
you leave

>>29205540
Your fault for looking outside the generals desu.

>>29205365
In the end we're all people and this is just shitposting, but what if Ame really did leave? Getting fans is hard. Does she really grasp how many people 10k actually is? Does she understand as long as she manages her money properly that she is free to be an entertainer, like truly?
As her greatest anti I think Ame should put trying to be an idol back in her profile and try again. There is a talent in her gen with a lot of experience. Take the back seat Blondie, you can do it if you take a chill pill.

>>29203970
>I just see vtubers as entertainers.
Trannychama... You're not supposed to admit you're an anti when false-flagging.

>>29199840
>she has always been overly restrictive and hostile towards her chat
I don't know how consistent she is with this, but I do remember, like her 2nd or 3rd stream after debut, she gave her chat a very stern and condescending lecture about not mentioning chubas in other chubas' chats, and how it was one of the hololive rules etc. And I noped the fuck out then and there; it was just so unbelievably awkward and poorly handled by her. Haven't watched her since, except to maybe pop into a live stream for a few minutes every few months, and nearly all the time, she's weirdly silent.

>>29206193
That's a hololive rule, not an Ame rule.
That's a streaming rule too, imagine i'm on a Markiplier stream and suddenly everyone starts talking about Dream?

>>29206193
it's literally a rule for most holo chuubas anon

>>29206453
>>29206555
I'm not disputing the validity of the rule, but rather how she handled it. A pinned comment in the chat would have been much better. Instead she occupied 2 minutes of her stream with it, and delivered the message in the most uncomfortable way possible

>>29201230
>Animals can sense bad people
lol

>>29205255
99% of fans are not schizophrenic unicorns.

>>29203009
Their sleep schedule is just one more thing they have to improve about themselves.

>>29206835
it's true, my dogs go insane when they see black people in front of my house.

>Be normal, socially well-adjusted girl
>Socially inept anonymous internet dudes demand you pander to their anti-social lifestyle lest they have to come to terms with their own insecurities
>"I'm not doing that. Better yourself."

Based? Based. I'm thinkin' based.

>>29207833
Uh yeah, no. Let's try that again:
>be girl
>decide to profit from men who are almost by definition poorly-adjusted, lonely, and ask for nothing more than escapism
>it's incredibly easy and pays literal millions
>you still manage to fuck it up anyway
>the millions of dollars for almost no work apparently isn't enough motivation to contain your disdain for the downtrodden souls that fund your lavish and effortless lifestyle
Retarded? Yeah, I'm thinking retarded

>>29203009
>knows by heart SEA timezones
I'm starting to think that all these "fuck SEAniggers" posts are made by self-hating SEAniggers themselves

>>29206193
Dont mention vTubers unless its a man, and then if you have a problem with that you need to improve yourself.

>>29208924
>literal millions
yeah, maybe in ARS.

>>29201059
Nabi, why are your children cursed?

>>29208924
This. Vtubers are just ungrateful bitches.

>>29209301
Kek, that's true, the hypocrisy hadn't even occurred to me

>>29199124
>Tempus is debuting
>She's hyping them
>Suddenly she's shit
Wow anon, fairweather much

>>29199124
>I'm not even a unicorn.
Yes you are

>>29199263
She has a lot of stalkers. They need to be banned.

>>29199124
It killed it for me too, anon. She fucking completely debased us for honest concerns. I've written her off and it hurt me. But that's western women. They're incentivized to betrayal. It's in their nature. I've learned lesson. But it still hurts me. I use to really enjoy this retard.

>>29210229
its not about her hyping them you illiterate fuck, its her condecence towards worried fans

>>29199124
I'm so glad I dropped her long ago. Never trust former poorfags.

>>29210696
I enjoyed her very much too, I dont want to have to write her off

>>29210229
She shit on her FANBASE. If what she said didn't offend you, the way she said it, didn't BOTHER you. Then you are a faggot. And grass is exactly what YOU need. This is a woman. Not a pariah

WHY IS SHE SO FUCKING DISRESPECTFUL TO HER FANS IT'S NOT CUTE SHE NEEDS TO GO BACK TO THE BUSH LEAGUES AT TWITCH BOUNCING HET TITS REEEEEEEEEE

>>29199783
so you're creating threads betting on people convincing you otherwise? what's your goal here

>>29210935
She spoke to us like we were fucking drug addicts. Like we aren't as smart as she is as, as of she knew some higher plan is mortals aren't capable of understanding, as if her entire career wasn't built off placating to the male persona. It's flat out betrayal.

>>29211039
great post

>>29211039
This. She needs to be reminded what her value is as a woman: a couple hunks of jiggling flesh. She's gotten way too arrogant behind the anime avatar.

>>29211277
i created this thread to know if I was the only one that used to like her but cant feel good watching her anymore.
a lot of people criticizing her werent even viewers of her before, i just wanted to know if people who REALLY WATCHED HER BEFORE also felt the same

>>29211404
this but unironically

>>29211493
you have the brain of a woman if you need others to conform your own feelings, but carry on, loser lol

if you like ame you can just keep repeating "lol improve yourself"
if you dont like ame you can just use it to fuel your hate for women
i think this is why people have been having so much fun talking about it nonstop. both sides are easy to take and shitpost about

>>29211493
I've been a teammate since fucking day one. I unsubscribed after viewing that fateful stream.

>>29212770
Just tell us you're a faggot. We don't need the description

>>29213680
>teammate
nice try

Honestly anyone who's a teammate after amegeddon is a faggot so who cares?

>>29211039
Unironically yes, i want to see those huge tits again.

>>29199124
>>29199840
>>29202243
>>29204042
Then stop fucking watching her.
Vtubers are a fucking product, not a woman you are in a relationship with and will fuck.
Move on to the next product and give them money like the consumer cuck you are.
I get it, I was a little sad moving on from ps1 > ps2 > ps3 > ps4 > ps5 but I got over it because it's just a fucking product and the next one will be better.
If ame doesn't bring you joy find a vtuber who does and shut the fuck up

>>29199124
I was on the edge abouting invest more time watching her and maybe even buying membership, but the way she said that made me stop. I'm a little sad about it but moved on to another chuuba now

>>29214698
It helped me thinking that her roomate was ugly in all the clips but one. She literally was only cute in that "happy birthday" one, which was probably when she was the youngest

>>29199124
No

>>29199124
Cold turkey for a month anon. No Ame. Then once it's over, watch a stream. If you still feel hurt, move on.

>>29199124
>confortable
Yeah, I feel ashamed to share a planet with you

>>29199124
Someone spoon feed me the clip. I only come to this board every few months and there's always some new drama. Last time was Ina and now Ame? Can't these dumb girls just shut up and play the role? Even a common street whore knows better.

>>29216181
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ0CDB8qfzI&t=1838s
Timestamps for stuff like this are usually in the comments.

>>29199124
When I watched her Outer Wilds streams (the original ones) it was such an enjoyable experience. She seemed so genuinely excited and the sun station landing felt like an experience that only chat who was there at the time could understand. That's just an example that stands out to me, but she seemed so enthusiastic back then. When I catch a stream now it feels like she's punching in for her job in the warehouse and just wants it to end. After how much management has shafted EN and how much she's tried to compensate for that, she burned herself out and got jaded. EN holostars aside, it feels like EN management killed the original Ame.

>>29216181
If the embed here >>29217003 doesn't work, copy/paste the url into a new tab. Sorry, I don't really know how to do timestamp links.

>>29217003
>Maybe you should use those feelings and BE PRODUCTIVE

Fuck this whore she's dead to me. Everytime she's faced with any form of criticism she always has to comment on it and then shit on her own fans instead of just moving on.

I would love to see how many posts and how many threads are all made by the same deranged guy. Homie probably didnt even watch Amelia and is trying to make artificial hate out of literally nothing.

>>29217391
>Everytime she's faced with any form of criticism she always has to comment on it and then shit on her own fans
You don't watch her. So you don't know.

>>29211838
Imagine actually thinking this just because she called you out on getting mad about the possibility of watching her talking with a work colleague (among other work colleagues)

>>29217124
You could make a very similar post about gura. What a sad state of affairs.
>gura been jaded and apathetic for a year and a half now
>ame jaded, apathetic, disliked her fans leading to this yab, and now probably HATES them after this yab
>ina hated her fans from the start, had a yab like a month in
>mori is mori
>as a really extra special fuck-you, irys and bae, who were doing so well, are now close friends with mori of all people
At least kiara is still good. I've watched some fauna too and she seems fine. Never watched any mumei yet

>>29217003
Just listened to it and I gotta say, while I totally got the Ina situation, the outrage on this one seems pretty far fetched. You can tell she's nervously dancing around the question and answering it in the most delicate way possible, that if management says she's gotta collab with them, then she's gotta do it. Seems like the "improve yourself" line is said not at all seriously and more seems like something random she just blurted out to stall for time to think about how to best answer without getting cancelled. Whole outrage seems like a bad case of autism interpreting something too literally.

>>29217391
What makes it even worse is that these stupid cunts think these feelings give men ENERGY for some retarded reason. They literally cannot even fathom what depression or loneliness is. It's the exact physiological antonym of energy. What an insufferable stupid bitch.

>>29217661
For all the shit Kiara got in the beginning, she truly is the most based one of all and actually cares about her fans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucMuEZc6ecU

>>29217738
>seems like something random she just blurted out
We reveal our truest thoughts when we have the least time to think. She revealed that on some subconscious level, she thinks her fans are pathetic losers in need of self improvement, and furthermore, could not even grasp the criticism beyond the kneejerk female reaction of "incels are whining." And even if she is correct in all that, she's still disrespecting the people who pay her bills, and as such, she's retarded and gets what she deserves.

>>29217448
why do you care you retard? do mean words about someone really affect you that much? this board is full of fucking newfags jesus christ

>>29217661
>gura been jaded and apathetic for a year and a half now
True, she streams a lot less and I don't feel like the content is quite up to her peak, but her streams are still decent when she decides to show up
>ame jaded, apathetic, disliked her fans leading to this yab, and now probably HATES them after this yab
Not sure I would go that far, but I do think Ame is resenting her fans more and more and is without a doubt losing any enjoyment of streaming she originally had
>ina hated her fans from the start, had a yab like a month in
Whether or not you believe this is true, not much has changed in regards to her streams
>mori is mori
A progressive descent with no foreseeable end
>as a really extra special fuck-you, irys and bae, who were doing so well, are now close friends with mori of all people
Don't forget Ollie

>>29217738
>Ina situation
Could you give timestamps or at least streams for that? I'm still catching up on it.

>>29217738
Not really. The thing that stands out properly about this is that she had two questions about holostars for some reason, and the first one she answered very candidly and civilly without pissing on anyone for asking it. The second question she did some weird 180 and completely changed her tone about it, no clue why. That's the part that stood out to me at least.

>>29218334
Compare the venom in her face to Ame's and its no question who's joking and who's not. If you're not an incel, you know that tone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWte-IY2YtI

>>29218587
*Meant to say voice, not face

Looking forward for Ame to graduate and bounce her tits for donations on Twitch again

>>29218165
Ironic that the saying is "if the shoe fits" cause it really hurts doesn't it, if nobody has given you a reality check up to this point then don't blame the girl streamer for letting you know you gotta improve yourself instead of malding about something harmless.

>>29218587
Nice unbiased lead-in

>>29218587
Oh, I thought you were referring to something recent and holostars-related. I already knew about that, but thanks for the link anyway.

>>29218772
KYS tako dork. Mori heard it and thanked the fans immediately after she did it. Even Ina realized right after and said "Haha I'm just kidding....". You're simping for someone who hates you. Everyone knows it but you.

>>29218587
I don't know why you call Ame's tone a "joking" tone. Sure the tone itself wasn't spiteful in the way ina's was. But Ame's tone is not indicative of "joking" or not actually meaning what she's saying. To me, there was some condescension in that tone, like she was talking to children. That, and I think she took on that tone precisely because she understood the insensitivity of what she was saying; the content was harsh, so ame compensated with a less harsh tone as a sort of coping mechanism with the discomfort of what she was saying.

>>29218731
Nice tits btw. I want to cum all over her face and her D cups

>>29218172
t. derangaed guy making all this threads

FUCK AME. that fucking disrespectful whore is trash.

>>29219129
Teamates unironically cope by telling themselves every piece of vindictive criticism their oshi gives them is banter.

>>29218772
See
>>29208924
It doesn't matter if her fans are losers. Clearly many of them watch vtubers to cope, and if some particular type of content causes them discomfort, who the fuck is Ame to judge, or any other vtuber for that matter. It's not Ame's job to judge and provide a shotgun blast of worthless platitude life advice to her viewers, who may already be trying to improve themselves for all she knows. "If the shoe fits" is a good phrase, now here's one for Ame: "Don't shit where you eat" and "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes"

>>29219129
Its all subjective I guess. To me it just didn't sound like she was serious in any way, and the brevity of it makes it more likely it was just a passing comment. She didn't reiterate the point or anything.

>>29199124
Teammates are just cuckmates. To be so blinded, it must be a cuck fetish. To be spoken to by your oshi. to be. To be broadly stroked as worthless and in need of improvement. It's disgusting. Anyone who supports Ame is worse than a cuck.

>>29219117
I'm not the one basing my understanding of Ina's entire personality and relationship with her fans (because I'm sure you don't watch her) from a single "yab" that can be compared to a scene in a comedy where a guy says something playfully mean and his friend tries to awkwardly follow it up with something that accidentally sounds really mean because he didn't know the limit of the joke. Also did you even watch that full clip? It's almost as if you don't even care about the follow up.

Don't look at this soundpost from the same stream, bros
It'll blow your mind

>>29199263
this tbqh desu ne

>>29219979
AAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>29219864
>Also did you even watch that full clip? It's almost as if you don't even care about the follow up.
Never heard of the term crocodile tears? No wonder these girls take you pay pigs for such a ride if its that easy to deceive you.

https://youtu.be/2-OXNwh_Wm0
she'll never come close to doing something like this again

>>29199244
MAGGEDRAW.COM

>>29220247
She also used to say "I love you" to her fans iirc, and never does anymore

>>29220247
>>29220894
she'll never type something like this again on post-stream chat...

>>29220247
>>29220894
>>29221276
Bros, I want to go back........

>>29221276
Fuck, dude...

>>29206706
There was pinned comments at that time??? I think not, and besides that the retards bringing other chuubas would probably just close the comment and do it anyways, sometimes is better let things be clear

>>29202783
> Americans need to compare everything to burgers
The stories were true!

>>29221276
>>29220247
>I miss her...

>>29221276
Ame please just take it back, I want to go back to the good old days before you spoke about them...

>>29199124
Why you feel like that now when this isn't even the first time she's done or said something like that?

>>29212119
wow ur so cool

>>29205011
looks the same chief.

>>29214516
wow ur so cool, people look up to you

>>29223066
word

>>29221276
she still loves me... its like we never left the arcade 2 years ago...

>>29220894
https://youtu.be/FJ0CDB8qfzI?t=2334 the same stream. I also think that her second respond was a shit anyways, when she was aggresive with backseaters or people trying to annoy her is understable, but when you touch topics like these where you know that some people might get hurt, at least you do it with some respect. It's incredible that even Mori answer was good when she practically said the same shit, but in a different manner. Lately she just feels different, like wanting to be the pro unity Fubuki of her branch, maybe it was better when she succesfully hide her efforts to the audience

>Ame WILL off-collab with a Tempus chad
>They'll be giggling and having fun while you listen
>Suddenly Ame's model will stop moving because she's snuggling up with the Tempus chad
>That whole Hoshikawa/Gundou stream will be replicated but with Ame and a lucky Homostar
Damn, sucks to be a teacuck

>>29219979
just shows shes two faced

>>29219979
i was just waiting for her to say "statistically speaking in any demographic of over a million people there's at least one neo nazi among you"

>>29199263
welcome to /vt/, grab some popcorn and enjoy the rage

>>29223973
You mean Fubuking, the one that desperately said she'll be the viewers' wife now, while making lewd asmr in a desperate bid to stay relevant? Ok, well, I wish Ame the best of luck with that.
>>29224041
Vesmond are uncorruptable. Nobody cares what the other two do.

>>29223111
maybe youre fucking blind

>>29223973
shows how shes a fake, she'll say that but as soon as their attitudes become a tiny bit inconvinient she'll call them losers for watching her

>>29205011
as a long time Ame viewer, this looks normal to me

>>29220894
>>29221276
I miss 2020

>>29199124
I legit don't understand why people care about how a fucking vtuber sees them. They were also losers, so who gives a shit? At least isn't not your mom or your dad being disappointed in you.

>>29199263
I still, have no idea what she said. I have not seen a clip, the quote, nothing. I genuinely do not know what people are referring too kek

I feel that Ame started to resent her fanbase. Not blaming goslings to jump ship though. There were countless times Ame disappointed them and her barely streaming for doing what a manager was supposed to do fucked up with her numbers. She prolly saw some of her most loyal gachikoi jump ship to other streamers and grew some sort of resentment out of it

>>29232929
basically
>"will you collab with the males?" maybe in big collabs. i don't think it's a big deal. if you have strong feelings about this, please use them to improve yourself instead

>>29232929
>>29217003

>>29233625
>>29233725
I appreciate it

>>29217866
>They literally cannot even fathom what depression or loneliness is.
You need to kill yourself expeditiously

Not sure where you've been. She's always been the rage streamer (especially the Mario streams) when things don't go her way. That's why she got many DSP comparisons early on.

>>29232976
Imagine believing that you don't owe your fans anything, but they owe you something.

>>29223973
She's so basic.

>>29233625
People are mad because she told them to cope?
If you have strong feelings about collabs with men you need to follow her advice.
If it bothers you so much just don't watch the collabs.

>>29217866
You’ll never recover from your loneliness and depression if you don’t work on improving yourself you raging dumbass, it’s not everyone else’s fault you’re lonely.

>>29217391
That's not criticism. That's incel whining that she has the balls to shut down.

>>29205032
>Vtubers have literally never done anything wrong.
Idk dude, Rushia sending out a fake suicide voice message was pretty fucked up.

Why are teacucks such a bunch of crybabies? just "improve yourself" as she said and drop the bitch and do something else, or find another oshi who actually respect their fanbase, fucking faggots

>>29221276
What went wrong...

>>29235229
>>29235344
>>29235379
>>29235541
Stop thirsting after other anons. It makes you look desperate.
>>29235495
Tribalfags will never admit when a Holo does something wrong.
>>29236035
She succeeded, which means there's not enough external pressure on her to keep acting like that.

Ame needs idol correction.

Her sister, Haachama should also be shat on for implying I'm a gross otaku (I'm a respectable, diligent, handsome man), pretending to have a boyfriend, and being a shitty streamer. Funny how similar their problematic behaviours are

I don't watch her much but whenever I do she never acts like the sweet girl next door that teamates make her out to be, she's just always mad at the game and makes some noises, and then during collabs she's just kinda there. I just don't get the appeal, but I do think her fans deserve it because teamates are obnoxious

>>29237861
Haachama is a good girl, at least on stream

>>29238363
Myth buff. People got attached to her because it was the 1st tuber they probably ever watched. If she debuted in Council she'd be behind Bae.

>>29199747
That's right. He needs to stop watching ame altogether like she asked.

What did ame really say?
She’s at the bottom of my priority watchlist so I barely watch her. But from the times I watched her she acted fairly sweet to her chat, with some slight teasing.
My biggest critique is that she’s a bit boring and autistic in collabs

>>29235229
Don't forget most Hololive fans especially the JP side have that strong feeling.
She is meddling with matter way greater than she should

>>29199244
Keep that yellow whore away from my boy

>>29199263
What are people mad at? The thought of ame collabing with the boys?

>>29239703
She's a Hololive vtuber who acted ungrateful towards Hololive fans and all but called them losers. That's the real issue.

It's because you've realized that she hates most men, just like most modern feminist "women". I used to think Ame was based by virtue of not being (((them))) but I realize now that she's swallowed the feminist pill one way or other. Even if she acknowledges her chat is 99% men, she doesn't empathize with them, and it's hard to watch a vtuber that you feel literally hates your existence.

>>29239013
She made a comment that if you're seething about the thought of her collabing with a guy then you need to take that energy and improve yourself

>>29238454
She called me kimootaku and hurt my feelings

>>29239013
She got asked if she was going to collab with males, she answered it perfectly as far as I'm concerned saying she is more of a solo streamer but there might be some big group collabs. Instead of stopping after that she decided to say she understands why some people might not want them to collab before using the baby voice in the very next sentence to depict the people who don't want male collabs as crying babies. She then misunderstood the issue and says she talks to males all the time when she commissions things and if you were more productive and you improved yourself she might talk to you. She then finished off by looking at her viewer count and saying she was talking to 6 thousand males right now.

>>29240175
Then you're a faggot for being offended by someone simply describing you. Chammers loves her fans and antis alike.

>>29199124
Retard
I hope you kill yourself

>ame
lol

Yes, hololive's main innovation was bringing the japanese idol culture into the world of Vtubers. They copied everything Nijisanji did "but with idols".

And now you form a toxic parasocial relationship to a livestreamer, instead of just watching for fun. And you get money milked out of you pretending the virtual anime doll is your girlfriend or something. These people are mediocre streamers, they aren't even that good compared to real livestreaming personalities.

>>29240799
>These people are mediocre streamers, they aren't even that good
They'll hate you for speaking the truth.

>>29239832
she literally did not say that, but she wouldn't be wrong if she did.

>>29241253
Right. She didn't literally say that. It was just implied.

>>29203236
This, but unironically

>>29199124
>anyone else feel the same?
no

>>29242334
wrong

>>29240799
But can real live streamers make an excuse about tummy hort and get away with it again and again? I don't think so.

>>29223185
I like him

Take the indie pill and you'll see how soulless hololive streams really are

>>29199124
I think she has always kind of had a bad attitude.

this outrage is just like that one joke ina apologized for. Her light jab at chat during the guilty gear stream

vt and unicorns are thin skinned babies desu. Surprised they can even live

>>29240799
>These people are mediocre streamers, they aren't even that good compared to real livestreaming personalities.

But they are a lot more pleasing to watch.
Virtual tour guide > staring at some fuck staring at his screen occasionally trying to fake enthusiasm

>>29201434
Then you have issues you're not aware of. Someone giving you the most milquetoast vanilla encouragement possible to work on yourself should not sting you so badly that you are still fucking crying about it a week later. Unironically work on yourself. Ame is based.

>>29240799
>they aren't even that good compared to real livestreaming personalities
This so much. On top of that, most of hololivers are lazy pieces of shit who barely stream.

>>29199124
Ame is the same Ame she always has been. Every streamer is boring if you watch them long enough. I drop in for a bit and when I get tired of watching another person playing a game I do something else. You sort have to sniff out the kino. A true teamates feels it in the air.

>>29200919
Based

>>29245588
Yeah, nothing wrong with that, that's why we barely talk to anyone outside family in fear of being made fun of and also why we're in 4chan (which includes you) posting anonymously

>>29245588
>light jab
telling her vtuber watching audience that they probably aren't enjoying their life or even have their act together because they watch anime girls is a light jab?

>>29249302
And potentially that is including many JP fans because having distaste of male interaction isn't uncommon at all among JP fanbases

>>29249302
Holy shit how much more stuff are people going to interpret into "use that energy to improve yourself".
She hasn't even remotely implied what you are saying. I'm seeing this all over the board, people putting words into her mouth, making it seem like she made a big rant and insulted her viewers

>>29245588
>>29245709
>>29249522
There, there. You've said your piece, now run along while the adults continue talking about Ame's insulting attitude towards the people who funded all the projects Hololive EN benefitted from and made all her success possible.

>>29249522
>to mori: You're enjoying life right? Are they enjoying theirs huh?
>Must be nice to have their act together right, in life
>Watching two anime girls having fun playing guilty gear huh
Those are her exact words, it also happens to be what I wrote in the post you replied to, she literally said it.

>>29199124
I STILL DON'T KNOW WTF SHE SAID, Does someone has a clip or the time of the stream that people have a problem with??? OP? Please??

>>29249734
She is a V-Tuber and watches other V-Tubers in her free time. Do you really think this was meant seriously?

>>29199124
I go to gym now instead of watching her stream.
I want to improve myself

>>29249815
Q&A stream from 10 days ago, 30:30 onward for a couple minutes. She had the gall to imply that Hololive fans aren't perfect, while also shitting on unicorns. Ironically, despite saying she was glad to be Hololive, she outright insulted a fuckhuge swath of JP vtuber and idol fans (you know, the types who watch Hololive) as well. And this is coming from a vtuber who's been with Hololive for nearly 2 years, so it's not even a newbie mistake.

>>29249938
>She is a V-Tuber
which is the main reason its so bad for her to say that.

Can I ask, how many of the unicorn ilk are trolling or at least self aware? My perception of this place is constantly shifting between "no one truly acts like this and we're all pretending to be idiots because funny + power" and "we all genuinely feel entitled to strimmer because woman, even though admittedly too many of us feel this way to possibly make sense and we even interact with each other over it." I'm probably a bit hypocritical in criticizing, but I just find it odd that people seriously have these expectations. Can we accept jealousy at face value? Is it cuckery to be happy for someone doing something like collabing with other streamers, whatever gender? If a streamer is a source of positivity for you, it should be reflected in how you approach you real, everyday life, and being a unicorn is not exactly the most positive thing.

>>29250490
Holy shit it was a joke. Taking quotes out of context only to support your argument doesn't make you look any better

>>29250598
how are they out of context? and how is telling your audience that they dont have enjoyable lives a joke? This wasnt a lighthearted joke in response to the chat giving her bad info. One person said Mori was bad, Mori laughed and said yea, Ina decided to sperg out and imply vtuber watchers dont have enjoyable lives, this wasn't intended to be a funny joke.

>>29250316
She is not professional enough to hide that feeling

>>29248888
boredom is not the issue

The hilarious irony of this thread is the people seething about these kinds of comments are the ones who need to hear it the most.
Improve yourselves by using the energy wasted complaining about Anime girls on the internet playing games to learn a hobby, get a job, or go to the gym.

>>29250803
Seems like you just can't handle banter. Even if it wasn't a joke, it was being pissed of my a toxic chat and biting back. It's still not a serious sentence, even if unfriendly. I agree, it's not correct to handle the situations like that. But let's be honest, if thousands of people were shitting on you constantly, would you always retain a good mood?

>>29251291
Consider this, people in these threads don’t even watch these people to begin with, it’s actually astounding hearing someone say shit like how Gura isn’t into hololive anymore because they don’t stream AS much, niggers
If you watched any of their streams you’d know the shit they tell people they’re doing when they’re not streaming.

The Ame thing really is a nothingburger but these people are the same people who think Ina hates everyone because a thread said so

>>29251383
Up until recently Ame was fine to banter with her chat constantly and it never came off as her thinking less of us. It just seems Ina does think people who watch vtubers are losers, perhaps she includes herself in with the losers or perhaps she thinks she is different because she makes fanart of them, either way I won't be spending my time watching someone who would assume im a loser for watching her which means I can no longer watch Ame or Ina

>>29251638
>Ina does think people who are vtubers are losers
Or maybe she knows some people can't tell between a joke and a comment now days and she had to clarify, y'know don't think of youself as a loser you're not, maybe stupid but not a loser

>>29251291
I dont think anyone here actually denies that, the fact is Amelia doesn't actually care if you improve yourself or not, this isn't your dad teaching you to fix a car, this isn't someone putting in a regular posture check or hydration check during their streams, its someone deflecting criticism by telling everyone else to improve themselves. I honestly think a chuuba who actually tries to help their audience improve regularly would be interesting

>>29250843
After 1 and a half years, she really should be. Especially after Ina made the same blunder.
>>29251638
We're all losers wasting time watching anime girls have fun without us. Even so, Ina publicly apologized for what was obviously just an off color tongue in cheek remark, which was the right thing to do because you're not supposed to say the quiet part on stream. On the other hand, Ame unironically bought into the condescending self improvement meme, drank too much of the kool-aid, and unironically parroted off complete bullshit on stream. That's what chubas should avoid. Being grateful to fans is part of the kayfabe.

>>29252017
To call it a 'deflection of criticism' is pretty funny

>>29252044
Yea I'm sure that if Ina could undo things she would have undid it but I didnt care about the apology because she wasnt really apologising for thinking her fans have unenjoyable lives, instead apologising for saying it out loud. I can't imagine Ame ever apologising and even if she did I hope nobody would believe it
>>29252231
It was basically
>I understand why some of you might not want male collabs
>*baby voice*
>maybe you should improve yourself if you feel this way

>>29252343
The disingenuous nature of the argument is accepting the validity of control by forcing others to accept it as "criticism." It's not a deflection, it's a dismissal.

>>29252044
In which stream did she said that do you remember? I wanna hear it lol

>>29252044
>>29252560
I mean Ina not ame

it's pretty obvious that the only people trying to make this a big thing are people who never watched her or stopped watching her since a long time ago, lol

>>29199124
get absolutely fucked OP, realise that (you) are part of the problem and work on fixing your shitty perception of women.

They should make male collabs mandatory. Like, not too much, but at least one per chuba. The thought of unitards necking themselves because of it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy.

I like ame streams for watch a longs, that's pretty much it, it gives me a reason to put on a movie and just chill out. Other than that Ame is chill, any vtuber that big I can't expect anything else more.

>>29254038
no one cares

>>29217003
lmao you people are fucking ridiculous for getting upset over this holy shit

>>29249815
red the fucking thread thread
>>29217003
>>29217003

>>29220894
>>29221276
Supportive and loving until you get big

>>29199263
many such cases

>>29199124
>assures her audience that Tempus is going to be awesome and her own content won't change much
>fags still get mad

>>29259414
Because they have nothing "good" to shitpost about

>>29199840
i think if u stream u need to crush chat

>>29206706
the way you're making 2 minutes sound makes u look like a prissy whiny little flaky princess LMAO

>>29250803
To be honest, Ina always has always had this air of "Smarter than thou, holier than thou" feel. I always felt it when I watched her streams.

>>29259500
true

>>29199124
She was my first oshi. I love her for about a year. Something happened.. I think she started playing too much Minecraft or other games I wasn't interested in and she seemed kind of checked out, too.

>>29260656
>something happened
money

>>29260795
To be honest, I did love her sass, but sometimes it felt like she just didn't like her viewers. That also made me look at other vtubers. At the beginning, before the money, she really tried and cared. Am I wrong for thinking this? Has she actually not changed?

>>29224699
you haven’t been paying attention or just recently started watching her if you think those views are that different
superchats and oblivion streams usually get lower viewership. Elden ring hype has died down, etc. And if other people are streaming at the same time, then of course viewership will spread out more among them

>>29224699
Are you a new numberfag? Those are her normal numbers
Unless you mean her holocure, minecraft, post-off-collab, graduating-sana-collab numbers are her normal, in which case you're retarded

>>29223973
>Lately she just feels different, like wanting to be the pro unity Fubuki of her branch, maybe it was better when she succesfully hide her efforts to the audience
Dunno, she's been EN FBK since at least last year
Hypes up other holomem, streams whenever and whatever she wants
Mix in a bit of Haachama and some burnout and you get Ame

>>29201076
Your example would make a mentally ill person fall even further

>>29261360
Stop saying Ame is EN FBK anon, Fubuki doesn't shit on her fans.
She actually cares and do collabs with her fellow holopro members, not just pretending to be some kind of unity goddess with some half-assed tweets while being too afraid of doing real interaction.

>>29262197
Based Fubuking has no equivalent on the EN side.
Fubuki actually interact with the Stars and almost all of hololive really.

>>29262197
Ofc she's not exactly like FBK (heck Mori is more pro unity than her), but her lackadaisical attitude toward streaming without regards to numbers is just like FBK
That's why I threw Haachama into the mix - la creatividad and shitting on her fans constantly
Her fans know exactly what they're getting into

>>29262741
Yeah. I wish Ame cared about other people and showed more support, like the Holostars members that probably need a shout out.

>>29262197
>Fubuki doesn't shit on her fans.
someone doesn't remember the rant she went on about stream snipers calling them losers and virgins that actually had to be privated, lol.

>>29262197
Anon you cant just murder teamates like that.

>>29263493
i know right, i couldn't ever imagine ame caring about and supporting other people

>>29263751
https://youtu.be/bFjuKhG2Hzc?t=4834
fuck ame, that selfish bitch never does anything to help other people that fake unity queen

>>29263654
as if anons here actually watched FBK lol

>>29199124
Hey, just wanna say thank you for using the containment thread. The split got much better thanks to this.

>>29264029
https://youtu.be/qj8l0UfKKH8?t=16607
that fake bitch doesn't give a shit about the stars and will never give them out a shoutout on stream

>>29264261
https://youtu.be/j5ON7VsPZPk?t=947
look at her fucking disrespecting sana by streaming minecraft right after her graduation announcement, holy shit can you believe the nerve of this bitch

>>29263751
>>29264029
Was she on Gura's as well?

>>29264465
gura put together her birthday concert by herself, so no.

It's just like pornstar or hentai artist trash talk coomer
90% of vtuber viewers are khv who have never touched a woman in their entire life

>>29224443
Whaaat fbk is that low now?

>>29266638
English ESL!!!!