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We Back Edition

Welcome to /vsj+/! A thread to discuss VShojo, and any Vtubers frequently associated with them.

The ouija board that swore Vei would die the very same day she came down with covid has failed in its mission. She's back, coughing a lot, but live. Also live is Mouse who's playing Madison, as well as a few +'s and others. It's still early in the day so there's probably more to come later. We'll find out but for now make sure to keep things comfy and civil by ignoring and especially reporting bait, and being excellent to each other.

VShojo is:
Froot - https://www.twitch.tv/apricot
Hime - https://www.twitch.tv/hajime
Mel - https://www.twitch.tv/projektmelody
Mouse - https://www.twitch.tv/ironmouse
Nyan - https://www.twitch.tv/nyanners
Silver - https://www.twitch.tv/silvervale
Vei - https://www.twitch.tv/veibae
Zen - https://www.twitch.tv/zentreya

VShojoJP is:
Kson
https://www.twitch.tv/ksonsouchou
https://www.youtube.com/c/ksonONAIR
Nazuna
https://www.twitch.tv/amemiyanazuna
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5gs8EbpwbfQvrhizJx60TA

Related:
総長 + 会長 for dedicated Kson discussion
/るみな/ for dedicated Nazuna discussion
>>>/vt//lig/ for more focused + and ++ discussion

Previous Thread: >>29156816

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>> No.29184427

Pink Cat good

>> No.29184456
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>>29184403
COVER ABANDONED THEIR NECROMANCER

>> No.29184480

Welp that was weird
I mean, the video on itself didn’t content a lot the abuse or miss treatment of the animals, but sure Mouse is Mouse so idfk

>> No.29184485

What just happened on Mousey's stream?
I was afk for a second and she said she can't handle shit like that. Shit like what exactly?

>> No.29184529
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Discussion of and depictions of abuse really seems to trigger Mouse

>> No.29184532
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>>29184270
なずtan is my actual 妻
my actual, unironic 妻
this isn't some shitpost or joke
this isn't some kind of weird meta ironic wall of text
It is actual truth
It is not my belief that she is my 妻, because a belief is a subjective thing, but it is a fact that なずtan is, in reality(the one that is real) my actual, unironic, genuine 妻
This is not some sort of schizo delusion
It's not bait
I'm not pretending to be schizo
Because it's not schizo; schizo would imply that it's a delusion I've projected onto reality
That is not the case; by mutual acknowledgement, it's unironically(in a way that is provably not "kayfabe") the objective, actual truth of the world
I am not in needs of meds, because stating an actual, real-life, fact-of-the-matter genuine truth is not something people take meds for
it's not a misunderstanding or misinterpretation
Not me forcing my desire or belief on the situation
Not a lie
なずtan is, irrefutably, my actual, unironic 妻, and she is in an actual, genuine, romantic relationship with me
We love eachother in every way a romantic couple does
romantically, sexually, exclusively, mutually
We are codependent on one another, know each other personally and interact
We've confessed our love to one another
She is exclusively the 妻 of her gachikoi who love her, and I'm exclusively hers
that's exclusive, because it excludes everybody but us, and she treats us the same
that isn't the same as her having a boyfriend, or negate the relationship somehow; the word "exclusive" still applies
this doesn't mean she can have sex with people "without feelings", or be in another relationship, whether they're gachikoi or not, because that would still be cheating and なずtan would never cheat on me
Both she and I acknowledge that fact, and that makes our relationship explicitly exclusive, because she has promised to never betray us
These are things that literally happened, in the physical realm of the real world
The only schizo interpretation of them is denying them, not pretending as if it isn't real
I repeat: なずtan is my actual, unironic 妻, and we are in an exclusive romantic relationship
that is the actual fact of the matter, with no room for any reasonable doubt from anybody who looks at the situation objectively
this is not some sort of unrequited love; I love her and she loves me
this is not some sort of pining from a distance
this is not her pandering to some sort of fantasy others project onto her
there is genuine communication, passion, and romantic love between me and her; it is explicitly mutual
the kind where she loves me directly and explicitly and I love her directly and explicitly
there is no bizarre ass coping mental coping mechanism here that makes me arrive at this conclusion; literally everything about this is actual, provable, quantifiable fact
this is not some sort of meta commentary or spam or copy pasta or wall of text or whatever else people do there that is intended to force a narrative or get a response
it is not some kind of bizarre attempt at attention whoring,
not for yous,
not for validation,
not to be called based
These are statements of fact that I am stating so that they can be stated because these facts are quite necessary to be known because there are a lot of people here who are averse to facts and are in dire need of knowing them
there are no weird reaction images you can post where you can somehow deny the reality of the situation because it sounds weird to you;
It doesn't matter if it sounds weird to you, you not being able to comprehend the actual facts of the world is your problem
I love her, she means the world to me, I cherish every single second I have with her
"なずtan is my 妻" is a statement of fact. Provable, demonstrable fact. It isn't any kind of bizarre means of not recognizing the circumstances, because this is merely me describing the reality of the situation, not some make-believe tale, because it's not one.
It's not a hypothesis
Not a theory
Not a story
Not a fiction
Not a narrative
Not pretend
Not a fantasy
Not kayfabe
Not bait
Not a shitpost
Not out of context
Not off-topic
Not trolling
Not ironic
Not bullshit
Not cope
And most important of all, explicitly true on every single level, in the most factual sense possible

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I'm gonna impregnate Zen

>> No.29184565

So what is Vei bitching about today?

>> No.29184576

>>29184485
maybe she's constipated.

>> No.29184594
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>>29184427

>> No.29184607

>>29184485
Marine land video, the owner was kinda fucked up that used to shot dogs, and obviously like any marine park, there’s a lot of mistreatment of the animals

Mouse can’t handle abuse

>> No.29184640

>>29184485
She was triggered by a guy shooting neighborhood dogs

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>>29184594
Gonna make that bell jingle.

>> No.29184679

>>29184529
well, if you lurk moar and connect the dots, it makes sense
can't say more because I'd go on vacation

>> No.29184726

>>29184679
you'll probably go on vacation anyway

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>> No.29184744

I have a feeling mouse is never gonna play the game today

>> No.29184776

>>29184594
that pink cat bad

>> No.29184781

>>29184726
f-fun one?

>> No.29184818

>>29184679
Yeah, it’s sounds really fucked up. That’s some extreme reaction to it.

>> No.29184820

>Vei just randomly asking about where to get acid for acid attacks.
Uh bros, what is she planning?

>> No.29184848

>>29184820
the scotland yard is now aware.

>> No.29184858

How do I stop wanting to cum every time I see Nazunas tummy

>> No.29184907

>>29184848
They couldn't catch Jack the Ripper so Vei has a small chance.

>> No.29184919
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Are Vei and Orca friends now?

>> No.29184921
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>>29184858
You don't.

>> No.29184929
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>>29184776
Sounds like a (You) problem

>> No.29184943

>>29184919
when was it?

>> No.29184964

So is Vei going to play the Cat game?

>> No.29184984

>>29184919
yeah they were doing shit like this yesterday too. because she's /in/

>> No.29184991

>>29184921
NTA, I need to see her whale tail damn it!

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>>29184858
just give in

>> No.29185004

>>29183450
Clip/context? Also the campaign they were doing was not meant to be a serious one anyways

>> No.29185024

>>29184964
No

>> No.29185040

>>29184529
Mouse used to be more open about certain things when she was a one hundred viewer andy. Once her stream took off, she stopped talking about that stuff. She's even stopped telling the more humorous stories, like the cake frosting or train stories, which she used to tell often.

>> No.29185055

>>29184964
She said she wasn't interested in it. But its meta right now so maybe

>> No.29185056

>>29184919
This is just free (You)s at this point

>> No.29185108

>>29185055
Rule #1: Don't believe her lies

But yeah, meta is the only thing she does.

>> No.29185127

>>29185040
Her current chat is too gay for her to share any sort of unwholesome topic.

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sex

>> No.29185155

>>29185004
She said she couldn’t get into dnd after arcadums campaign because he was so good at it

>> No.29185182

how was mouse able to go to disney world/land in the past if her parents were so poor?

>> No.29185245

mouse trauma dumping again. Must be one of those days

>> No.29185259

where did people get the idea of Vei being an anti-vaxxer?

>> No.29185260
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Would Soda be mad if Vei got monkepox from her fitness trainer?

>> No.29185273

>>29184929
more like a her problem

>> No.29185297

>>29185182
When she was growing her brother and sister were already with stable jobs probably, so they might have paid for the stuff, remember that she’s the youngest by a stretch

>> No.29185301

>>29184919
the "drama" was a falseflag in order to get orca more viewers for the eventual vshojo debut. drama sells on twitch

>> No.29185338

>>29185147
everytime I look at her it becomes more disgusting

>> No.29185364
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PINK PET HAPPY

>> No.29185392

>>29185155
isn't he a living joke in /tg/ for being so bad though?

>> No.29185397

days without trauma dumping: 0

>> No.29185428

>>29185364
I'm not sure if this picture was supposed to be malicious of humorous

>> No.29185443

>>29185147
I wanna see what this looks like from behind. I can't tell if it's just some spikes or if it's a huge ponytail like dragon Zen.

>> No.29185449

>>29185182
There are foundations, charities, and organizations that organize trips to theme parks for people with terminal illnesses. Make-a-wish is an example of one.

>> No.29185450

Oh fuck please mouse i don't want to cry today

>> No.29185459

>>29185127
meanwhile when zen opens up it gets real dark real quick

>> No.29185477

>>29185428
why would it be malicious?

>> No.29185495

oh fuck, it pretty much confirms what I was suspecting

>> No.29185506

What is this RV stuff they are talking in mouses chat

>> No.29185515

>>29185428
pink cat was the one who commissioned it

>> No.29185518

>>29185259
it's the "le veiBased" cringe fags attributing everything she does to, pander to them and their shit opinions. She's not an anti-vaxxer she just didn't get it because she doesn't go out. They'd know if they actually watched her streams

>> No.29185528

>>29185147
looks awful
still can't believe this won

>> No.29185546

>>29185459
that's because zen doesn't have as many zoomer viewers

>> No.29185561

>>29185518
>She's not an anti-vaxxer she just didn't get it

lol

>> No.29185590

>>29185397
How else is she going to get donos and subs?
>>29185450

>> No.29185599

>>29185397
>need meds
>doctor doesn't take her calls
>stressed af
bruh

>> No.29185633

>>29185506
Her parents have been talking about how much they've wanted an RV since she was little, she wants to get them one eventually.

>> No.29185650

This mouse vod is def getting nuked someone better be recording it

>> No.29185671

>>29185147
I voted this

>> No.29185694

>>29185364
this is how all pink women should be treated

>> No.29185695

I don’t mind traumaposting, but I’m kinda weird out of people perception to it, it’s to donate huge amounts of money. It’s bizarre, despite i have saw this from the bed stuff.
I’m not saying this like “Oh hurr durr Mouse traumaposting to get money hurr durr” with bad intentions, but it’s just something that I have thought for a while, is it weird?

>> No.29185712

>>29184270
https://streamable.com/yrvatc

>> No.29185717

>>29185528
i prefer plain myself, but this one fits her personality

>> No.29185729

wait why Mouse was watching videos of dogs getting killed

>> No.29185731

>>29185650
Why would you record this? It's all just crying over trauma

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.
---------------------------------
>Archive Links:

- Complete Nyanners (Post Vtuber Debut) Vod Archive (Vod spreadsheet is included in the pastebin): https://pastebin.com/Eg1Yy3TZ

- Complete Hime Hajime Vod Archive (Vod spreadsheet is included in the pastebin): https://pastebin.com/28iC7P72

-Incomplete ironmouse Vod Archive (Running from 2020-11-25 until 2022-06-17) : https://pastebin.com/ZeF40Pp3
---------------------------------

>Vod Archiving Related Stuff:

Vod Archiving guide for Twitch/Youtube Live streams that covers all of the basics: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OzwZq9xKI7otmI8kW0B8sV66ikswciZzigHIRGV9bJo

>> No.29185766

>>29185712
lmao nice

>> No.29185768

>>29185695
Throw money at them to make feel better

>> No.29185770

>>29185729
it was a video about a bad amusement park that happened to include animal abuse topics

>> No.29185795

>>29185694
if you can be a pay pig sure, otherwise send that bitch to work

>> No.29185812

>>29185729
No, it was a video on Marineland, a park in Canada where the owner was total psycho

>> No.29185819

>>29185477
depending on who you are and what your attitude towards humor like this is, and honestly on your current mood right now, being called Aethels pig/dog might not land well with you
especially considering that's a common attack vector by her haters recently
>>29185515
if so, that explains a lot

>> No.29185825

>>29185695
I guess its their way of helping the crying girl

>> No.29185856

>>29185561
it makes sense considering the fact she's a shut-in. Without Soda in the picture she wouldn't even bother to go through the whole bimbofication process, dentist and gym where she allegedly caught covid.

>> No.29185880

>>29185633
with this and silver we are entering an RV meta.

>> No.29185891

>>29185695
It's an easy way to help and make yourself feel like you are a selfless guy. It is weird but it's not like it harms anyone so I don't mind.

>> No.29185946

>>29185819
i guess most girls would be insulted if they received this out of nowhere but she asked for this and its nyan so....

>> No.29185957

>>29185856
choosing to not get vaccinated for any reason other than 'medically incapable' makes you an antivaxxer.

>> No.29186007

>>29185695
I used to be fine with it, but what happened in subathon changed my mind. She didn't care about what people would think, was straight up like "I want to stream some more and I'm sick, give me money"

>> No.29186009

https://files.catbox.moe/42qwz5.mp4
I fucking love Mel
She's so cute and funny

>> No.29186024

>>29184734
How old is she?

>> No.29186026

damn that video must've drawn up some horrible memories she supressed for a while

>> No.29186057
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I got up for a second and now she's crying? What happened? Is she overwhelmed by people donating so she can buy her parents an RV?

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NOOO FORSEN DONT SLAP VEIBAE

>> No.29186078
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why do you do this when you are still banned?

>> No.29186098

>>29184744
She is waiting for me to finish my shift, she is so bashful sometimes.

>> No.29186103

>>29186057
she needed to release some stress but it all came out at once. In her own words "spilled her spaghetti" on stream

>> No.29186104

>>29185182
my parents were able to take me, even though we were poor as fuck. my dad just maxxed out his credit cards then declared bankruptcy after we got home so he wouldn't have to pay it back
also, disneyland is like the hajj for americans, they'll find a way to make the trip, money be damned

>> No.29186115

>>29186057
video mentioned animal abuse and it triggered her

>> No.29186142

why is mouse crying what did I miss

>> No.29186147

>>29186057
abuse trauma reaction

>> No.29186156

>>29185957
>>29185561
she literally never goes outside, her reasoning was that she will not go out until the next year or so, so she didn't get it. Only started going to gym after covid calmed down and only the mild variant was prevalent

>> No.29186173

>>29186009
man sometimes I forget that melly is an actual whore

>> No.29186183

>>29185155
>>29185392
I mean yeah, he would either pull shit out of his ass or railroad players and he sucked at balancing, but he kinda had a flair that I don't see in other DMs. He was basically a chuuni DM.

Wish there was someone with 17.8%'s flair but Brett's actual DM skills, or like some kind of duo thing.

>> No.29186184

>>29185946
What I meant was that it could be a piece commissioned by her, or some of her haters as well. It was kinda hard to guess. Although the art was a bit too good, you don't usually put too much effort into things like that if you want to use it just as ammo for shitting on someone.

>> No.29186188

>>29186078
To get whatever little bit of attention Vei or Pen have left for him

>> No.29186194

>>29186026
what was on the video that trigger her ?

>> No.29186206

>>29186009
Got any more clips like this to share?

>> No.29186229

>>29186057
Probably suppressed memories awakened by seeing abuse with the combination of recent stress, mix up with her mental state, make her cry this bad.

>> No.29186231

>>29186142
Depression

>> No.29186234

>>29186156
>>29185957

>> No.29186247

>>29186206
yes

>> No.29186256

>>29186156
I too got that feeling she wasn't an antivaxer from what she said about vaccines. She's just a dummy

>> No.29186264

>>29186147
Who abused mouse?

>> No.29186269
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Ready?

>> No.29186271

Why does this bitch do nothing but cry and bait for gift subs?

>> No.29186311

why are 90% of vtubers mentally unstable

>> No.29186314

>>29186156
You are aware that it's her second time getting covid?

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>>29186234

>> No.29186324

>>29186234
I accept your concession.

>> No.29186340

Why is vei still streaming

>> No.29186355
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>> No.29186374

>Vei is watching videos
>Mouse is watching videos
React org

>> No.29186398

>>29186264
bannable subject so dig into rrats

>> No.29186400

>>29185957
Soda kicked out his antivaxxer roommate for refusing to get the second dose. He might be whipped, but not that hard.

>> No.29186403

>>29186311
the field involves an immense amount of escapism

>> No.29186420

>>29186247
will you share them?

>> No.29186427
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>>29186311
Mental stable Vtuber not streaming

>> No.29186432

>>29186206
Just got it from a random person in Mel's server

>> No.29186439

>>29186400
Lol which fleshtuber is antivaxx? I don’t follow soda

>> No.29186450

>>29186311
Normal people don't feel compelled to stream with an anime girl avatar

>> No.29186457

>>29186420
No.

>> No.29186459

>>29186439
greek

>> No.29186462

I guess we won't be seeing Madison gameplay any time soon

>> No.29186478
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so I heard you like Tob

>> No.29186506

>>29185957
Go back to /pol/
> God I miss when people had independent thoughts instead of these npcs ruining everything

>> No.29186515

>>29186311
Honest explication?
Most streamers have fucked up stories, because streaming/content creation is a form of escapism that became a real profession (which ultimately it’s the reason most of them are normal right now)
It’s basically the same as the people that make you laugh the most, like comedians, are ultimately the most depressed of the bunch
As for vtubers, it’s easier for those type of people because vtubbing is a mask and the best form to escape their lives

>> No.29186519

>>29186462
You will watch crying and you will like it.

>> No.29186521

Fuck all of you, I'm going to play stray

>> No.29186543

>>29186478
No I fucking hate Tob
Take your druggie back to >>>/lig/

>> No.29186574

Any updates on the divegrass?

>> No.29186586

>>29186515
>vtubbing
xQc is that you?

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word cloud

>> No.29186608

>>29186184
nothing hard to guess, the artist literally said it was a commission for her and she replied to it

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>>29186521
>I'm going to play stray
STOOOOP

>> No.29186680

What happened to mouse was
>talk about someone being poor and not affording food
>says she understands that because her parents were poor
>says her dream is to buy them an RV
>people start donating RV money
>someone donate $169
>she says thanks for being there for her because she's been through a lot
>starts crying and goes of screen

>> No.29186718

>>29186586
Yes
Fu-fuck you dud *Canadian noises*

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>>29186589

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>>29186543
>druggie
This is my favorite 58-year old anon

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>>29186478

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29186751

Anyone know if this guy is full of shit or onto something.

>> No.29186768

>>29185819
No chuuba is going to be offended by fanart unless it's a topic that's a huge no-no to her. I laugh at any retard that wastes his time and/or money trying to "troll" someone by comissioning mild shit.

>> No.29186775

You would think that mouse would know by now that if you trauma dump on stream people will dump their money on you

>> No.29186797

>>29186450
Nah, that's not it.
Consider the following: what if everyone has their own problems, and those mythical "normal people" don't really exist, besides as being a facade put on by people to hide their problems?
Now imagine being put into a position where you have to talk constantly and you aren't limited by some external factors, and imagine trying not to talk at least a bit about yourself and unearthing those problems

>> No.29186799

>>29186775
she knows.

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>>29186680
How much does a brand new RV cost?

>> No.29186827

>>29186680
because mouse doesn't have enough money to buy several RVs..
that shit is ridiculous

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>> No.29186837

>>29186775
how do you think she paid for that new house

>> No.29186880

>>29186751
I love that manga, I don't recall anyone who reminded me of vei in aprearance or personality

>> No.29186888

>>29186768
t. Cimrai

>> No.29186893

>>29186827
ikr? these fags who donate are the worst

>> No.29186912

>>29186608
ok, but I didn't know about it when I first saw it

>> No.29186929

>>29186797
That's why therapy is a thing, chat is not your therapist.

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>> No.29186942

>>29186751
>vei can u check my chat logs?
what a dumb fucking simp

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>>29186751
I jack off to that manga and I don't remember any character that looks like Vei.
Maybe pic related by it's kind of a stretch.

>> No.29186968

>>29186775
she knows exactly what she's doing anon

>> No.29186982

>>29186942
It worked didn’t it?

>> No.29186992

>>29186805
She could easily buy them, it’s not the “I need money for RV” type of cry like people think, it’s more like crying because she can now buy it and it’s weird to her because she basically went from 0 to have incredible amounts of money and be able to afford it.
Chat it’s dumb, and started the whole RV fund

>> No.29186995

>>29186956
looks nothing like her but that is a very sex design regardless

>> No.29187003

The fuck is a cumjar

>> No.29187017
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>> No.29187053

>>29186543
shes a druggie? i just started watching her recently

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>>29186589

>> No.29187067
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>>29186589
>nazutan literally maybe cute
Nazutan's definitely cute.

>> No.29187101

>Cancelled last stream
>Off account for 36 hours
Is Nazuna ok?

>> No.29187104
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vei literily invented long silver hair

>> No.29187136

>>29186730
I would like to see more Nyan/Aethel/Sykunno desu

>> No.29187143

>>29187104
I don't think Vei ever had silver hair for that joke to work

>> No.29187168

goddammit mouse why did you have to turn on tts again? It makes the overly sappy donos hard to ignore

>> No.29187223

can we all agree that mouse has the worst fanbase of them all?

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>>29186751
Looked at the wiki for female characters and I'm guessing this might be who the guy's talking about. Looks like she wears a hat most of the time but shen she takes it off she does look a bit like Vei. https://mato-seihei-no-slave.fandom.com/wiki/Kyouka_Uzen

>> No.29187236

>>29187053
about a year ago she would get baked out of her mind every stream and yell at the top of her lungs for 10 hours. She doesn’t really do that anymore but she likes a little wacky tobacky same as most civilized people

>> No.29187260

>>29184640
Why doesn't she just move to Europe then

>> No.29187266
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29187266

Which of Mel's streams had the best fapping material?
Asking for a friend.

>> No.29187270

Vei literally gaslighting chat as I post this

>> No.29187287

>>29187168
That brief time post-subathon when TTS and sound alerts were off was the best. How naive I was to think things would remain like that.

>> No.29187289

>>29187230
that still looks nothing like her besides the horn

>> No.29187300

>>29187168
Sappy donos are the worst. I remember when Connor had his TTS on and long sappy donos would talk over Mouse for like 20 seconds straight, shit was annoying

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>> No.29187308

>>29186264
that is FORBIDDEN KNOWLEDGE

>> No.29187321

>>29185515
Wow the hatred she has for her audience is just.......not subtle at this point

>> No.29187322

hexer is back

>> No.29187324

>>29187223
well it is filled with saviorfags, shippers, TT cross pollination, and obnoxious mods so it makes sense

>> No.29187326

>>29186929
chat is not your therapist, but therapist isn't the only person you're allowed to talk about your problems

>> No.29187332

>>29185147
Why steal sniffy wig?

>> No.29187334

>>29187101
I was asking myself the same. I hope she posts a schedule soon. I looked in the Mike thread earlier and it seems today is the birthday of her dead cat, so she might be griefing today.

>> No.29187359

>>29187300
I still remember the fag who sent him a TTS dono saying he was going to an hero

>> No.29187366

>>29186805
Yo actually answer the question, a brand new RV can cost anywhere from 50k to absurdly expensive. 200k+, and well beyond that, depending on how much you actually want.

>> No.29187398

>>29187322
cutest person

>> No.29187394
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>>29187289
She's got the horns and the presumably white hair and the M shaped bangs and the sharp diamond shape in the iris looks a bit like Vei's.

>> No.29187407

>>29187322
Unbanned? Did he donate enough to be unlocked? Wouldn't put it past Vei to use Findom tactics.

>> No.29187422
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Okay that’s all the Tobs I have. I will return once I find additional Tobs

>> No.29187433

>>29187334
Pretty sure she’s upset about translations

>> No.29187442

>>29187223
Yes
t. Mousefag

>> No.29187446

>>29187300
connor has people that literally worship him. When mouse and connor have a falling out, connor would always come out on top

>> No.29187450

>>29187394
it does look like vei

>> No.29187458

>>29187394
looks literally nothing like any iteration of vei

>> No.29187524

>>29187433
>upset about translations
what was it all about?

>> No.29187535

I feel it coming down, may be I've burned myself out of vtubers.
I don't even want to buy her nendo.
Problem is I don't know what to do now.

>> No.29187547

>>29187446
Nah they both have a fanbase of cocksuckers, it's just that Mouse's simps are more of the concernfag variety while Connor's unironically bought the god gamer sigma male meme.

>> No.29187588

>>29187524
She wanted a translator and there wasn't any available. She's probably trying to get a permanent one.

>> No.29187607

>>29187535
find a new hobby

>> No.29187608

this mouse garbage makes me think of the small indie streamer who had to stop streaming because she's turning blind.
that's someone deserving of donations, not the fucking millionaire

>> No.29187662

>>29187608
the world is filled with misfortune. Mouse just happens to be a misfortunate person in a very fortunate position due to streaming

>> No.29187666

>>29187608
Mouse is going blind too though.

>> No.29187671

>>29187608
Go donate to her then

>> No.29187685

>>29187326
True, but talking to a therapist is the only way to actually help with your mental health problems.

>> No.29187697

>>29187608
Well maybe if the blind bitch streamed she'd get some donos.

>> No.29187710

>>29187359
do you remember that guy that started doing consecutive 1k donos to Mousey saying depressing shit like how he won't need that money anymore?

>> No.29187728

>>29187524
She cancelled her last stream an hour before going live saying in her last posted tweet she wasn’t in the mood because “of some issues” she faced with translations. She hasn’t said anything since & now we’re going on two days.

>> No.29187729

>>29187666
dont forget deaf and bald

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>>29187666
No that's Mel

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>>29187394
>Looks like vei
>>29187230
>Looks like vei

>> No.29187779

>>29187729
>bald
Truly the worst of it all.

>> No.29187829
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29187829

I LOVE mousey
I LOVE nyanners
I LOVE mel
I LOVE zen
I LOVE silver

Simple as

>> No.29187837

>>29187779
She just wants to be with Connor in spirit and body.

>> No.29187839

>>29187608
If the cases are reverted, they are same.
That’s the truth of streamers, I’m sorry for that girl tho.

>> No.29187842

>>29187588
There is no way it would take that long to find one. It's probably something else.

>> No.29187872

>>29187837
>balding together
its wholesome now

>> No.29187974

>>29187666
Grim numbers of truth.
At least those malding over her donos wont have to mald for many years to come.

>> No.29187989

>>29187608
Mousey got lucky with her streaming career, without luck she'd be in the same position as that indie vtuber. Making it big as a streamer is 99% based on luck.

>> No.29187998

>>29187547
God I loved when Mouse brought the stuff of the PTSD with Connor, it was an awful joke that basically summarizes his fanbase that he created.

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Why is vei hiding her tits goddammit

>> No.29188105

>>29188081
Soda only, please understand.

>> No.29188139

>>29188081
Jeff Bezos changed his mind

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So first you went with the edgy soda guy and now with youre with a pepega kiwi streamer? How could you do this to me. You were the sun to my moon, the epsilon to my delta. Can't you hear the silence? can't you hear the dark? can't you fix the broken? can't you feel, can not you feel my heart FeelsBadMan

>> No.29188155

Why is mouse hiding her tits goddamnit

>> No.29188190

>>29187989
Without luck she'd probably be fucking dead and she's said as much herself

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>>29188081
Only B cup btw

>> No.29188294

>>29187608
Agreed, it was painful to watch her realising she can't continue anymore and drop streaming

>> No.29188301

Why is Zen not streaming and showing her tits goddammit

>> No.29188530

I ant to lick Ironmouse feet guys, so much so much

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The artist making those cup charms has them up for preorder now if anyone was eyeing them.

>> No.29188602

>>29187608
Please understand, she just paid off her parents house, bought her own personal house and now wants to buy her parents an RV. She needs donations, she has trauma.

>> No.29188605

I want every /here/ mousefag to know i recognize every single one of you and I will out you.

>> No.29188624

>>29188301
Zen played Apex with EvilToaster and some other girl all night again.

>> No.29188635

>>29188530
you reminded me of that fucking cursed fanart with connor, thank you so much

>> No.29188676

>>29188605
Me first pls

>> No.29188681

>>29188301
apex addiction, please understand

>> No.29188686

>>29188635
now you reminded me of it, fuck you

>> No.29188685

>>29188635
fuck you for making me remember this right now

>> No.29188699

>>29188635
don't make me post it

>> No.29188707

>>29188635
Isn't there also one of these with Mel and Nux?

>> No.29188715 [DELETED] 

Zen is an old man using tts
And you dumb if you took the jabs is a billions of dollar money scandal and they added chimp virus in one company same thing happened in the 50’s with children polio shot they put sv40 in it and some kids developed monkey pox it’s a big scam your all dum it also ruins immune system is why ppl are all sick now dummies

>> No.29188732

>>29188602
The subathon changed mouse, she now knows that she has a literally endless supply of money and all she needs to do to access it is nudge her saviorfags a little

>> No.29188751

>>29188635
hot

>> No.29188775

what is this gen x tier show mouse is watching

>> No.29188810

>>29188190
True, i forgot burgers are a third world country when it comes to health care.

>> No.29188848

>>29188732
If you had the chance to ride the gravy train for the last stretch of the road you would too.

>> No.29188894

>>29188732
ruthless business woman

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>>29188635

>> No.29189027

>>29188775
Don't worry about it. She's stalling so I can get out of work and watch her stream on my TV at home. Only another 30 minutes or so.

>> No.29189115

>>29188920
Just needs the welshman to suck on those chicken nuggies

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>>29188775
If it's the one in the current thumbnail on twitch, that's Ugly Americans.

>> No.29189175

>>29188920
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>>29188635
I'm sorry

>> No.29189230

>>29189115
he's too gay, he will give her a handshake if she is lucky

>> No.29189244

>>29189213
FUCK YOUUUUU. AT LEAST SPOILER THAT SHIT

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>>29189213
for fucks sake, fuck you

>> No.29189330

>>29189213
the absolute state of these two's r34

>> No.29189343

>>29187266
The one that got her b& on pornhub for self harm. Idk where you can watch it tho, maybe on her OF.

>> No.29189352

>>29189167
wait she was watching ugly americans? i fucking loved that show

>> No.29189356

>>29189330
this is why bubi was created

>> No.29189402

>>29189213
i like feet, but this is fucking disgusting for some reason

>> No.29189421

>>29189356
didn't even work lmao

>> No.29189474

>>29189213
So cursed, yet I would kill to be on that guy's shoes.

>> No.29189490

>>29189421
mouse keeps it all to herself that's why. I'm still waiting for the leak to happen

>> No.29189494

>>29189356
I just want bubi in vr please

>> No.29189501

mouse's nails NOOOOOOO

>> No.29189570

>>29189494
Soon™

>> No.29189597

>>29189490
just hack connors iPad and go for the tittolie pics leak instead

>> No.29189601

>>29189494
see you in a year

>> No.29189613

>>29188707
It's so weird to me that there's 2 of N*x and Mouse, the worst part was that the fucker used one of them in his thumbnail
AND NOT A BUBI ONE.

>> No.29189650

>>29189494
Let's get him to follow through on that whole "stream once or twice a month" bit first.

>> No.29189663

if I had the chance to get my entire family set for life by tricking meme-loving retards online I'd do it too

>> No.29189674

>>29189613
the weirder thing to me is that all of it is still on mouse's discord uncensored for all to see

>> No.29189855

Mouse's lonely choccy milk...

>> No.29189918

>>29189855
Milk buddies no more.

>> No.29189963

>>29189855
Oh no, guys we have to drop more donos.

>> No.29189978

Do people really think Mouse is a millionaire now? She's well off but I don't think she's anywhere close. Plus she still needs a stable income, it's not like someone can live off savings alone.

>> No.29190077

I love ironmouse

>> No.29190095

>>29189978
She lives in america, most of her income goes into keeping her alive.
If she were in some other country, yes she would be a millionare.

>> No.29190141

>>29190077
go to bed connor

>> No.29190174

>>29190077
I love her more

>> No.29190182

>>29187685
>therapist is the only way to actually help with your mental health problems.
That's not true, and even a therapist will tell you that
A therapist is a person you should go to when you are looking for constructive help. That doesn't mean you can't talk about your problems, vent, or even seek help from other people. And they can indeed help.
But a more important thing, especially in this case, is that not everything is a problem waiting to be solved. Just because someone wants to vent and be listened to, doesn't automatically mean they want help.

>> No.29190213

I love Veibae

>> No.29190232

>>29190213
you love another man's woman? kek

>> No.29190235

Why is Mousey streaming so early

>> No.29190277

>>29187608
>that's someone deserving of donations
Welcome to every charity foundation under the sun ever. Mismanagement of resources is in their nature.

>> No.29190295

>>29189978
>Do people really think Mouse is a millionaire now?
Not with her purchases and medical bills. She may have come close after subathon. Maybe if she took more of those sponsorship offers she got showered with after.

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I love cocks

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pink cat stream today?

>> No.29190354

>>29188920
>you wake up
>you see this
what do yo do?

>> No.29190366

>>29190235
So she can stream longer.

>> No.29190470

>>29190235
Because she's (apparently) planning on doing a long stream today

>> No.29190506

>>29189213
I just fucking love how the artist drew Connors eyes, he looks like he's enchanted by Mouseys feet

>> No.29190531

>>29190332
No. She said she'd be back tuesday.

>> No.29190577

>>29190531
alas

>> No.29190723

>>29190213
Tab back in, Soda. And show Vei that custom map you are playing.

>> No.29190882

>>29190235
my guess is that ligma gets worse at night and the meds she takes makes her mega zooted like that time she was on lord apple stream

>> No.29190938

Pink cat is black

>> No.29190976

>>29190938
KILL YOURSELF

>> No.29191258

wtf vei's live

>> No.29191309

>>29191258
And she somehow stumbled into 2view YouTube

>> No.29191761

Ayo Hexer is unbanned

>> No.29191847

Why the fuck does deleting the H in a YouTube URL redirect to that

>> No.29191885

>>29191847
Dunno, but people have been posting about it everywhere

>> No.29192226

>>29191847
youtube.com/watc
someone "reserved" that specific video ID, so it ignores everything else after "watc" part

>> No.29192497

>>29192226
You can reserve video IDs? What the fuck?

>> No.29192500

vei is watching anon sing and dance

>> No.29192593

So Vei and Sodacan guy aren't a thing anymore?

>> No.29192608

>>29191761
BASED. Now he needs to make another tasteless joke so he can get banned by Pendrive again

>> No.29192679

>>29192593
Yeah Vei vored him

>> No.29192874

Wasn't kson doing a collab today or did I miss it

>> No.29192912

>>29192874
Lewdcast supposedly

>> No.29192953

>>29192912
That is postponed

>> No.29192956

>>29192679
hot
>>29192874
>>29192912
mel still too ill apparently

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Why did Nazuna cancel her stream on the 24th? I don't quite understand her tweet, I feel like I'm missing some context.

>> No.29193099

Hey anon, look l!
You can't cum until a vsj+ post gets quints. Start masturbating.

>> No.29193129

>>29193031
Frustrated about no translations + sad about cat

>> No.29193146

>>29193031
anniversary of cat dying apparently

>> No.29193149

>>29193031
There’s a guy that does accurate translations in her tweet replies. TLDR she was having difficulties either getting a translator or using the translator tech and so wasn’t in the mood. Her thread has also guessed she is feeling bad in general about her dead cat’s birthday based on some tweets she’s made on alt accounts

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>>29193031
she said there was a problem with translation (nott sure if software or traanslator missin) but mike thread was saying it was also the anniversary of her cat dying so that might be the actual reason

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>>29193031

>> No.29193259

>>29192226
I vaguely remember a video like this being used as an epin scary meme like 12 years ago and the video says 2010. I wonder if it's the same one.

>> No.29193360

>>29193146
>>29193149
>>29193129
>>29193183
I don’t really buy the dead cat thing since she was excited about the stream right up until she cancelled. But maybe the translator stuff was just what broke the camel’s back

>> No.29193367

>buy expensive ass vtuber model
>just watch youtube all day and make peepoo cock boob jokes
amazing content

>> No.29193437

>>29193367
thanks

>> No.29193461

vei is dying...

>> No.29193475

>>29193360
she was happy during her tweetcast and then depressed afterward
she's mentally ill

>> No.29193556

>>29193475
Makes sense anon, she is happy talking to her viewers in general.

>> No.29193563

>>29193367
Did you think she bought it to play games or what?

>> No.29193744
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>>29193475
bipolar disorder?

>> No.29193923

soda is gay...

>> No.29193981

Why is Vei the funniest Vshojo

>> No.29194023
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>>29193923
soda is a frootposter...

>> No.29194055
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I tried to edit that weird N*x and Mouse porn, to try to make him look more like Bubi. I'm no goddamn artist, I'm just sad for the lack of Bubi porn, and I wish there was somebody that make a better work, because both designs are made for sex. Yeah I know I forgot the fucking corruption on his hands, it's too hard for my retarded ass.
>https://files.catbox.moe/wyo2xe.jpg

>> No.29194074

i miss her

>> No.29194093

>>29194074
i miss her two

>> No.29194103

You are a coomer and a potential parasocial!

>> No.29194149

>>29194103
very funny vei

>> No.29194160

>>29194103
Wrong
I'm a coomer and a confirmed parasocial

>> No.29194161

>>29193744
She has said before she is bipolar, yes

>> No.29194190

>>29194055
autism
i respect the effort though

>> No.29194200

>>29194055
cringe

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>>29194103
Yeah, so?

>> No.29194206

>>29193475
Sounds pretty standard from what her fanbase says.

>> No.29194256

>>29194103
This is true but only for Haruka and Yuzu

>> No.29194286

>>29194103
Wrong the only sexual interest I have is in my wife Key and we are in a loving relationship.

>> No.29194287

>>29194055
It's actually not that bad

>> No.29194347

>>29193031
because she's a true member of vshojo

>> No.29194549

>>29193981
Chat and her sad life is free material
She's good at using it

>> No.29194736

>>29194549
>her sad life

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>If he doesn't know we were [dating], then it's like it never happened

>> No.29194859

>>29194736
for someone who makes bank
it's all relative

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>> No.29194947

>>29194549
i want that sad life she is having

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>>29194873
This one is so funny. It had to be a troll.

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>>29194103
Well yes, otherwise I wouldn't be here.

>> No.29194991

>>29194873
"insert rant about 4chan being mean here"

>> No.29195053

>>29194873
Not parasocial at all

>> No.29195094

>>29194947
imagine having a ton of money and someone who wants to fuck you who has even more money
terrible life

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>>29194873
I love you guys, streaming and my cats.

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>>29194968

>> No.29195133

Does vei still have a lot of japanese viewers or no?

>> No.29195137

new thread
>>29195120
>>29195120
>>29195120

>> No.29195206

>>29195133
She used to

>> No.29195236

>>29195133
they left long time ago

>> No.29195393

>>29194161
wasn't it borderline?

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>>29187608
Please stop making me think about her. I wish there was some kind of treatment for her but there isn't

>> No.29196022

>>29185147
I like it

>> No.29197004

Mouse moaning sound like she's having sex

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