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How many Ilunas will be able to cross the Anya line in a month?
>homostars BTFO'ing holo girls>nijis BTFO'ing homostarsare you guys holding up okay?
>>29173440Pre-primetime /news/ update for 25-07-2022>>29161195 (Cross-thread)Recent Clip Numbers>>29059127 (Cross-thread)>>29059158 (Cross-thread)>>29059255 (Cross-thread)>>29059400 (Cross-thread)
>>29173249Kek Pekora is participating as well and she hasn't even trained on stream.
>>29173432With the way things are going I expect them to beat gura in 6 months
* YESTERDAY'S FINAL TALLY *>64,102: Okayu (Hololive)>54,267: Ema (VSPO)>50,902: Nui (Nijisanji)>46,884: Pekora (Hololive)>44,106: Sasaki (Nijisanji)>43,422: Suisei (Hololive)>42,597: Miko (Hololive)>40,629: Leos (Nijisanji)>34,684: Vesper (Holostars)>34,388: Axel (Holostars)>34,258: Subaru (Hololive)>27,803: Magni (Holostars)>25,806: Matsuri (Hololive)>24,460: Ange (Nijisanji)>22,585: Fubuki (Hololive)>21,880: Mayuzumi (Nijisanji)>20,725: Hal (Neo Porte)>20,132: Vox (Nijisanji)>19,881: Ars (Nijisanji)>18,599: Mayuzumi (Nijisanji)>18,480: Uki (Nijisanji)>17,423: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>17,158: Hololive English (Hololive)>16,754: Kobo (Hololive)>16,499: Nose (VSPO)>15,679: Chaika (Nijisanji)>15,139: Noel (Hololive)>13,925: Nagao (Nijisanji)>13,858: Botan (Hololive)>13,491: Met (774 Inc.)>13,348: Koyori (Hololive)>12,698: Vox (Nijisanji)>12,543: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>12,467: Tachibana (VSPO)>12,409: Iroha (Hololive)>12,184: Mysta (Nijisanji)>11,735: Yorumi Rena (Nijisanji)>11,601: Kanae (Nijisanji)>11,495: Polka (Hololive)>11,335: Luca (Nijisanji)>11,056: Koyori (Hololive)>10,419: Gatchman (Indie)>10,816: Selen (Nijisanji)
Why is Peko bleeding viewers? Is it Korone?
>>29173476The troon and the homo will. The others will be shitters on the same level as the fish.
>>29173490why are niji models always so stiff looking?
>niji 6 >successTheir debut was abysmal lmao
>>29173476Nah theyll be 5-7k streamers, they will make the previous waves obsolete
I don't want to alarm anyone but Lapuchan is streaming for more than an hour now.
>29173537Say the magic word anon
>>29173559>JULY 2022 GOLDS1) Miko (Hololive) - 43,044 - HoloCure2) Subaru (Hololive) - 66,433 - Birthday stream3) AZKi (Hololive) - 74,504 - 3D birthday live4) Tsukasa (Indie) - 41,447 - Streamer league mahjong5) Mayuzumi (Nijisanji) - 57,985 - Meschers off-collab6) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - Drinking talk w/Laplus7) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - DQ11 casino w/Noel8) Salome (Nijisanji) - 37,023 - Unpacking9) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 164,013 - Koshien 2022 draft10) Shion (Hololive) - 48,313 - 1 million subs celebration totsumachi11) Pekora (Hololive) - 61,665 - Clubhouse 51 totsu12) Shiina (Nijisanji) - 49,387 - Niji Koshien practice13) Pekora (Hololive) - 70,402 - Uno collab w/Marine, Botan & Polka14) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 54,165 - Niji Koshien practice15) Natsume (Nijisanji) - 48,192 - 3D debut16) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 70,166 - Niji Koshien practice17) Pekora (Hololive) - 142,833 - 3rd anniversary 3D live18) Mel (Hololive) - 67,290 - 4th anniversary 3D live19) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 62,890 - Niji Koshien practice20) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 80,534 - Niji Koshien practice21) Towa (Hololive) - 69,696 - New outfit reveal22) Gwelu (Nijisanji) - 90,186 - 3D debut23) Luna (Hololive) - 52,218 - New outfit reveal24) Okayu (Hololive) - 64,102 - 3D live>PER COMPANY13x: Hololive10x: Nijisanji1x: Indie>PER STREAMER5x: Pekora2x: Ibrahim, Kuzuha1x: AZKi, Gwelu, Luna, Mayuzumi, Mel, Miko, Natsume, Nijisanji, Okayu, Salome, Shiina, Shion, Subaru, Towa, Tsukasa>2022 GOLDS>PER COMPANY131x: Hololive64x: Nijisanji6x: Neo Porte3x: Indie1x: Kizuna AI Inc.>PER STREAMER23x: Pekora16x: Aqua, Salome14x: Kuzuha13x: Miko9x: Subaru6x: Hal5x: Kanata, Marine4x: Gura, Hololive, Mio, Okayu, Suisei, Toya3x: Chloe, Choco, Flare, Nijisanji, Towa2x: Ange, Fuwa, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Polka1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, AZKi, Botan, Chronoir, Debi, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Laplus, Luna, Masaru, Mayuzumi, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Noel, Roboco, Rushia, Sango, Shiina, Shion, Sora, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta
That horror house is even better than the shit one from the Usaken festival. My knees nousagitachi...
>>29173595well she's streaming with her oshi wife so...
>>29173558Already past her slot. Also it followed the same bleeding pattern as Summercraft where people who saw what they want pekora to react just leave.
>La+ have the most views in the collabwhy are kenzoku like this
Fuck this is suppose to be a TNT cannon showcase not haunted house. Lmao which nousagi was that.
Ollie will incline tremendously after that.
>>29173650I hope we get a Twappi, Lapuchan and Tuna collab some time after this. Imagine the niji chimpout.
>>291735585 streams started anon, 2 of them 10ks+
>>29173440Pre-primetime /news/ update for 25-07-2022>>29161195Recent clip numbers>>29167601>>29167698>>29167973>>29168025
>>29173620>another 15:15 monthholosis, we're reclining...
>poll stream>over 80% every time homos are fucking culledkek
>>29173620>REAL JULY 2022 GOLDS1) Miko (Hololive) - 43,044 - HoloCure2) Subaru (Hololive) - 66,433 - Birthday stream3) AZKi (Hololive) - 74,504 - 3D birthday live4) Tsukasa (Indie) - 41,447 - Streamer league mahjong5) Mayuzumi (Nijisanji) - 57,985 - Meschers off-collab6) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - Drinking talk w/Laplus7) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - DQ11 casino w/Noel8) Salome (Nijisanji) - 37,023 - Unpacking9) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 164,013 - Koshien 2022 draft10) Shion (Hololive) - 48,313 - 1 million subs celebration totsumachi11) Pekora (Hololive) - 61,665 - Clubhouse 51 totsu12) Shiina (Nijisanji) - 49,387 - Niji Koshien practice13) Pekora (Hololive) - 70,402 - Uno collab w/Marine, Botan & Polka>14) Pekora (Hololive) - 52,050 - Pekorone Mario Race15) Natsume (Nijisanji) - 48,192 - 3D debut16) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 70,166 - Niji Koshien practice17) Pekora (Hololive) - 142,833 - 3rd anniversary 3D live18) Mel (Hololive) - 67,290 - 4th anniversary 3D live19) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 62,890 - Niji Koshien practice20) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 80,534 - Niji Koshien practice21) Towa (Hololive) - 69,696 - New outfit reveal22) Gwelu (Nijisanji) - 90,186 - 3D debut23) Luna (Hololive) - 52,218 - New outfit reveal24) Okayu (Hololive) - 64,102 - 3D live>PER COMPANY14x: Hololive9x: Nijisanji1x: Indie>PER STREAMER6x: Pekora2x: Kuzuha1x: AZKi, Gwelu, Luna, Mayuzumi, Mel, Miko, Natsume, Nijisanji, Okayu, Salome, Shiina, Shion, Subaru, Towa, Tsukasa, Ibrahimstop being a lazy fuck and fix your shit retard
They sacrifice the kino from having a wonderful TNT Cannon to make things like that. I respect your choices Nousagis. It's the second one already.
>>29173511i don't know if anyone will take it that seriously other than mio or koyo
>>29173720>15:15 in the most gigabuff of gigabuff months for nijisanji
>>29173602wave 6 will unironically be the gura killer especially now that myth has become lazy and stagnatewave 7 will be the coup de grace
Iluna schedule
https://twitter.com/punipun7/status/1551521327948767232?t=hgIZC9j4UnZEqc0z24b0ow&s=19Kobo's interview
>>29173511She is trained by Sio's fat fucking ass. She will be fine.
>>29173720>tie>in fucking koshien monthjesus
Matsuri, just sing in Rust please...
>>29173770Huh 5 lead?
>>29173815the lassie is mainstream now holy shit
Tempus schedule
>>29173511It's not like she will win against Koyori.
3 years working for the company btw
Damn Koyori can hold 12k audiences against Pekora, not bad. I wish other HoloX would stream as regularly as her. Ghost is not an excuse for not streaming btw.
>>2917372016 : 14 in the favor of niji
>>29173720Eh i can only see 1 guaranteed gold though.
>>29173878those are good merch though and every nijisanji fans agree that they dont need to change since it has tradition
>>29173878the nijimerch compilation image is going to hit the 10kx10k size limit at this point. slow down, riku.
>>29173746CorrectionHe was polling 80% in just ONE MINUTE. It's true that the stream was a viewer participation stream but that high participation in such a small portion of time... it's just absurd
>>29173878NIJIKEKS WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS ?
>>29173871rip bruniger
>>29173856It's supposed to be three but Ibrahim's first Koshien stream is extremely ඞ
Regis is doing a Zelda guerillahttps://youtu.be/Wg1D_tHgrKsGuess this will be their way of getting around the one hour slots management is giving them
When will Zeta hit 500k?
>>29173871>pokemon card opening>spore>sonicHoly shit whats with the shitty taste in streams, he's gonna be a 3view shitter in no time
>>29173814That horned guy is actually a good numberfag and the purple/pink girl has a good schedule too. Others are dogshit.
>>29173878cant even break 10k on his birthday...
>>29173959AMOGUS.
>>29173878Pfffft, multi billion company btw
>>29173878do they not get custom merch or something? like Ina's laundry basket or Korone's boxing gear etc
>>29173720Niji is supposed to win in July and Aug thanks to Koshien, so I will settle for 15:15. If Niji can't win those two super buffed months, do you think they have any chance to win others?
>>29173878>3 years working for the company btwHe's been in the company long enough to earn the right to have Nijisanji's signature merch.
>>29173814Brown girl has the most abhorrent schedule I've ever seen. DOA.
Kagami is going to hit like 45k and not even be in the top 10, the numberrot just keeps getting worse...
>>29174009>>29173916
>>29173878Iburahimu, come home with Honma in a mixed gen please... You won't have any but on your streams but you'll be well received.
>>29173888usually I'd shit on you for being a koyofag, but I agreea """""ghost""""" isn't an excuse to not stream
>>29173720Nijisanji started koshien much earlier and the buff is stronger before, mayuzumi graduation, two new wave debuts and salome. Its a miracle that Hololive was able to keep up
>>29173916Don't ask questions. Just consume the product
>>29174033she might be targeting the sea audience with that retarded schedule
>>29173981Management should be forbidding them from playing long ass jrpgs during debut, instead of trying to enforce timeslots
>>29173981I think it's good just to explore different timezones with guerillas and see what range of people show up for them. I mean it's clear this won't be a fantastic game of sorts to stream, especially a guerilla, but I'm sure he realizes that. But it's good that people are filling up slots
>>29174009They can’t even if they want it. I think it was Selen and Pomu who talked about being rejected for wanting custom merch.
>>29174073>Its a miracle that Hololive was able to keep upno miracle. nijisanji needs gigabuff content to keep up with hololive now.
>>29174043Numberrot is accelerating. From the shadows she who must not be named is watching.
>>29173746>>29173930To be fair, while I won't be surprised if they are indeed culled, that Noir's stream was highly engaging since it depended on viewers participations in his pools, and thus, likely drove the participation rate up. It'd be safer to wait for a pool during normal streams instead before making any conclusion.
>>29174093The funnier thing is that they denied Mag’s zatsu stream but greenlit JRPG.
holy shit koyoyo mahjong is doing numbers
>>29174099>freedomEnjoy being slaves ladies and ladies
>>29174043I remember when Pecor trended on Twitter for hitting 45k on her MGS4 stream back then
>>29174143>The funnier thing is that they denied Mag’s zatsu streamWhy are you making things up
>>29174182Time sure flies...
>>29173746if homos are culled, it only showed that they are getting the same audience as other HoloEN's members. NijiEN's audiences aren't culled because they actually managed to pull new viewers in.This doesn't bode well...
>koyori getting a 15k against koro horage and peko still goingfuck i want mahjong soul perms back please pleaaaaaase
>>29174043Feel like vtubing as a whole is just keep growing in Japan, not just Hololive but Nijisanji too. They are the top of streaming in Japan, but somehow ass backward developing countries still have streamers bigger than them, it's wild.
>>29173789fubuki is watching koyori right now, probably will play laterand koyori will just crush everybodyalso her account is like fucking 5 years old with that saki character on the very first event
>>29174009Have to wait until abandoned like Niji exID first. Then their fans can commision custom merch
>>29173868>It's not like she will win against Koyori.But she's better than koyori
we back?
These numbers are getting a little bit too high dont you agree /#/?Its time for another cull...
We back?
Hi
test
Is that good? I was shitposting a bit on /downdetector/...
*narrator voice*they weren't back
WE'RE BACK9K people watching Moona btw
Been hanging out in the 4chin IRC channel. Apparently the Feds fucking shut down the website to investigate reports of child trafficking in /ggg/ and /rindou/
its a trap anons
>Pekora announced collab tomorrowI guess a contender if its a single POV?
WE BACK /#/
>blueboy sub 4k shitter already I love seeing males fail, but holostars is especially sweet
>>29174334i saw the post about salami and the post about regis
I can't believe Nijiniggers went as far as taking down 4chan over numbers
I missed you so much anontachi...We should donate some money to Hiromoot so we don't get to have any problem in the future.
>>29174502can't even get gold without throwing a fit
Koyori..
I miss everyone....You guys are my family anons
I THOUGHT YOU WERE ALL GONE FOR REAL THIS TIME
where do you guys go when 4chan is kill?
>>29174441>blue boy>gay voice and yumejos pandering>failed>stop pandering and starts the siblings arc with kobo>becomes a brotuber>inclines hardtrust the plan, you can't stop the blues
>>29174441My personal theory is that EU hours aren't really a debuff, they just make debuff streams even worse. But yeah, really mediocre stream CCV wise, which is a pity because it was really entertaining.
>>29174377moona is stronk right now
>>29174502The new Nijikek debuts were so bad that they are trying to bury the evidence. Seriously, the 6 worst debuts I have ever seen from a major vtuber corporation. Just dreadful.
>>29174585I actually did some work cause this board was down
Rio 1k! Is this birthday buff or StarsEN buff?
I feel like they are testing debut policies with the homos, council didn't have this 1 hour limit thing and they had a variety of timeslots. The guys who talked about it said they would be changing their schedule and habits after it ended anyways so its not even training the audience to show up at the right time.
>>29174613People are debating whether it's the year of HoloEN or NijiEN, but actually this is the year of HoloID.
>>29174585i was watching a stream without tabbing out every minute, actually having a headache now, i think i need to get meds for adhd or something
is 4chan run on toasters? Oh well, /#/ might have found the peace it wants.
Reminder that if you don't average 5k ccv then you're a failure in the EN Vtuber market.
>>29174394It's bound to be a Collab with Towa, right? PEKOGOLD KITIRAAAAAAAAAA!!
>>29174585
Mel Channel update-Her video for the collab song "LUVORATORRRRRY" with Kanata and Mori has now reached one million views, the second video on her channel to reach that mile stone after her Vampire cover.
>>29174548what are those discord thingies
Well, it seems like the orcat's birthday is near. Let's show her some /lig/ love with a good birthday card!>RulesImage dimensions must be a multiple of 200 (200x200, 400x400, 200x400, etc.).Submissions accepted until August 5th 6AM CEST (final minute of August 4th for EST), after which it'll be put up on her twitter art hashtag under an anonymous twitter account.Try to not leave it for the last minute, since the card will be sent in the middle of the night.
>>29174766>181Kek
>>29174766qrd?
>>29174585There, it was quite fun.>>29174334
>>29174806WRONG FUCKING THREAD
So, which Iluna livers will be able to bring in 27 CCV during heavy overlap + a debut relay in 2 years time?
>>29174806Wrong thread ligger
>>29174585Down Detector unironicly
>>29174585was reading some /pol/shit lol
>>29174377She is literally farming superchat right now
>>29174875 (me)27k
>>29174766Goddamn we just disappeared for a few hours and we already miss some spicy drama.
>>29174873>>29174876no bully pls
>>29174931What's she doing?
Moona is at 9K and getting a lot of superchats. Seems like they've opened up superchat for Indonesia. Seeing 1,000,000 IDR pop up is kinda funny.
>>29174766Koyo male voice yab?
>>29174715They have been inclining and they even have their own Minecraft festival next month
here are some numbers for you number bros出 means attendance欠 means absence 早 means left early (only in F)and the last kanji is being lateA-K are the subjects she has extra note, more than 5 absences and you fail....
>thread is 2.5 hours old>less than 150 posts>page 1/vt/ is reclining
>>29174766yab
On the bright side, thousands of Vtfags are forced out of their containment which mean there must be influx or at least small impact on the numbers since they are forced to watch stream. Can data anon confirm this???
>>29174973Building a summer sportsfest arena it seems? It's actually crazy that she seems to be doing it mostly on her own
so what did the pink coyote do?
ILUNA killed 4chan.
>>29168718Nijikr's problem isn't that it's a KR company bought by a nip company but more because it was already a failing company and basically scammed Riku into buying them out. Remember half their talents were going to graduate because of military service anyway, them buying it didn't do that.
>>29174394Single pov and something good, then yes definitely a possibility. Towa a likely candidate, but she's also talked about playing Mh with Shion.
>>29174867>>29174548>line contacts>kishimoto
>>29175049I mean, what's she doing to farm the superchats?
>>29175042They would rather neck themselves than watch stream anon
>>29175072kys you crossthreading sack of shit
>>29175049Ollie and Kaela are on the server with her but they are doing other tasks like gathering material
>>29174972joke currency.
>>29175099Nonono I thought this hag loved women?!
they bought?
>>29175004how the fuck do you have 11 subjects per semester?
Final /news/ roundup for 25-07-2022 (all times are in JST)> Nijisanji EN debuted their 6th Wave ILUNA today (https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1549544615635628033).).Kyo Kaneko : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tON-9I6hXwkMaria Marionette : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeP98_LYL-UAster Arcadia : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeOS0CuF0FEAia Amare : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vvdpzduo4eQRen Zotto : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgmvwsTzaaQScarle Yonaguni : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5fJlz3MxTY> Selen and Alban held a debut watchalong for the Wave 6 debuts on the NijiEN main channel (https://youtu.be/ekwnJHHK_o0).).> Miko announced that she will hold a 3D live "Baby Dance Live" for her 4th Anniversay on 1st August at 9pm (https://youtu.be/KiR0cnQXY7I).). New accessories and hairstyle to be revealed at the live as well.> Kiara will be appearing as a Guest at POPCON convention in South Korea (https://twitter.com/seoulpopcon/status/1551436171288317952).).> Nijisanji August Season Voicepack merch announced for 2022 (https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1551409620979179520).).> Botan and Lamy will be getting a figurine and doing a sponsored stream for Smile Fest 2022, Tokyo (https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1551477355712942080).).> Former Cyberlive talent Ayane Hylo announced that she is opening a talent agency (https://twitter.com/AyaneHylo/status/1551459129247633408).).> Heppoko Babutarou debuting her Live2D model on July 29th at 8pm (https://youtu.be/U4nf5gaaAPU).). wink wink> Kobo interviewed by ID Gaming magazine Dunia Games(https://twitter.com/punipun7/status/1551521327948767232).).> Ibrahim celebrated his Birthday today (https://youtu.be/jOw5AMWz_K8).).Previous : >>29076596
>>29175152Lol>>29175107Panicking, mostly
my oshi splatoon is gone
>>29175177just think what it's going to look like when wave 7 drops next month
>>29175173it's a fucking last name
>>291743945ch is hinting Azkinumbers won't be good
>>29174253Not at majhong no.https://youtu.be/dD3BAugysJAhttps://youtu.be/Xe7ZLdq6b7gAlso, Poor Hayato. 3 times he was up against Pekora while playing Koshien, 3 times he's getting railed hard by the Pecock.
Is it a discord tab? Disrdcordniggers explain
>>29174199He says it like in first ten minutes of his stream dumbass
>>29174548>Kishimoto on the contactsKoyocucks, not like this...
>>29175115NIjiseethe
>>29174713>council didn't have this 1 hour limit thing
>>29175260people are speculating over a last name in a line contact and shitposting about it
>>29175173She's just good friends with the Naruto artist that's all
30k is only for grown ups salome. Jokes aside, she's getting sub 30k for rhtyhm heaven now lol
>>29175221Is It just here or...?
>>29175221Well splatoon is one of the reason she needed a detox
>>29175304I only checked Kronii but all her earliest vods are 2hours
>>29175308That could be anything
>>29175004isn't nip college supposed to be a joke? You basically just show up and if you have half a brain you pass?Given how flaky haachama is with her commitment to vtubing I would've assumed that this was because she was focusing on college. I guess not then.
>>29174585Took a hot-ass shower before switching into ice-cold water, shit's fun, I recommend
>>29175331debuff game
>>29174548oh I can't wait to see her beg and plead like the whore she is for forgiveness so that her precious numbers don't take a hit since this is the only kind of validation she can getthe same way she apologized for leeching off of salome on twitter, she'll bend over again
>>29175331
>>29175099Koyori got tie with Naruto author? No wonder his new work had been a shitter.
Why can't god let Moona hit 10K...
>29175380Oh koyori schizo is here
>>2917533130k is the new 20k range now...
>>29175380It's nothing burger
>>29175177fuck me, such an easy stock to manipulate for the company.
>>29175380hey, don't you have another post to make about how you hate every hololive member except for marine
>>29174287we are back mate. shitpost away
https://twitter.com/hakosbaelz/status/1551567954986340352Bae doing a PNG review with different assets the fans made, could be pretty good numbers for her.
>>29175370the thing is, she's not being forced to go there, she's forcing herself to do so, if it was her parents she would've already taken a long break to focus on her studies since she has to drop FOUR (4) fucking subjects now
>>29175331spammed it a bit too much
>>29175243I miss that fat ass...
>>29174441Zelda at early EU times was never gonna be an explosive streams. Hell it was part 2 which was on at an EU unfriendly time. He did fine all things considered though I think it was KFP pretending Kiara was on. Filling her Monday break day with a more buff 1 off game wouldn't be the worst idea.
Kishimoto could be male or female, 5ch is just unicornposting because it's funny.
>>29175238that wont be great. And if it's Azki it's maybe a singing collab, they've talked about that before. And everyone knows that's not Pekora's strongest content.
>>29175430>>29175455seethe faggots, it will happen and you know it
20k curse
>>2917533110k down compared to last week.
>>29175099...Does this mean that one of the HoloJPs is named Kishimoto? Most likely one of the HoloX's?
>>29175331Holy fucking shit I thought you were joking.
>>29175525that was kind of obvious anon, but it won't really stop shitposters
>>29175453You should've bought when it reached 5.8k just like me lol. There are actual idiots out there who thinks Iluna would do anything substantial. I'm just waiting to sell after rofmao concert. Mayu's graduation and leos's 3D debut doesn't seem that good of an event.
>>29175415Sorry Moona, it's nearing midnight, kids need to sleep
>>29175470she's going to get magged
>>29175525BasedWE ARE
Wait, since the fuck when did we have a Koyot schizo?
>>29175470Funny that Bae came up with that before Ame. Sad that it isnt a collab
>>29175331owarida desuwa
>>29175470i will send a NTRoberu cutout
>>29175304Not only did they not have a 1 hour time limit they didn't give a shit about where they streamed. Fauna was always on 6pm EST and Kronii went from fucking 2pm EST to fucking midnight EST and then settled for 11EST somewhere else down the line. The don't starve collab was at fucking 3PM EST too.
>>29175543Inversely Pekora got 10k more viewers in her Minecraft TNT compared to Summer Craft stream. SALOME TOURIST POACHING CONFIRMED.
>>29175557Cfd? Or you have accounts in jp?
so uhh might be out of topic what did you guys do when 4chan went out i played warframe
>>29175574True.
>>29175595it's not really a koyori schizo, if you push him a bit he has a routine for pretty much every holo, but insists that his oshi is marine, which is pretty funny
>>29174441>holostars>4kthat's still a good number for stars you fucking retard
>>29175525She's a female 35p isn't that synonymous with being a lesbian? Also the amount of times she's said she's not interested in men?
>>29175525huh I kinda saw a news about a new tokyo mayor with the same name. Cover selling to politics confirmed?
>>29175557nah, I don't invest in meme stocks. but good on you anon, get those returns.
>>29175679you think people won't go unicorn over dykes?
>>29175677But not for EN vtubers in general.
>>29175679>she's said she's not interested in menngmi
>>29175415>9.7 peakDid something happen? Why is she getting this much on a seemingly normal MC stream?
>>29175535Fuck off dramafag
Pegor last rust stream lost 90k-100k views wtf.
>>29175765Ppepping for the next (all holopro that wants to go) festival next month
>>29175765The ID server is pretty hyped at the moment with Ina & Gura visit + a lot of JP's checking it out.
>>29175679Her Oshi is a leeching whore so her being like that wouldn't be so farfetched of a guess.
>>29175753eveven noctyxx is 3k average
>>29175765She is working on the sportfest server. Also Pekora ender her stream just in time for Moona to start.
>>29175621The managers are learning, but albeit backwards. How hard is it to visit the #'s thread for advice? You can't force the guys to stream one hour apart, but you can in fact make them fill other slots. Why the fuck aren't they even using google calendar to schedule this kind of stuff just to avoid overlaps at the same time? Kronii and Bae is gonna fucking overlap tomorrow. That's if Gura doesn't stream at that time.
>>29175822Yes and we make fun of them for it.
>>29175765it could be jops, streams ended/went into superchat mode pretty early today, i think the only one doing anything is polka playing a game that like 10 people played already
>>29175779kill yourself koyocuck>>29175679what do you expect from someone whose oshi is a dumb leeching whore who can't do anything without others being there to push her up, they're literally nothing by themselves and their fans are as fickle as ENsharts
>>29175753>EN vtubers>4kthat is still on the high end you idiot. use a better material next time you shitpost
>>29175799Same thing happened with her anniversary stream, but several times with a much smaller amount( 12 to 20k).
>>29175889how do you feel about watame
>>29175800>>29175829But she's been prepping for this for a few streams now and she still never got these much.
>>29175595I'd like to believe it's the Lamy schizo just going through all the colors.
>>29175799Pekora's recent videos have been taking awhile to process more than usual.
>>29173440>>29173458Why is kaltsit so ungodly hot Why no kaltsit themed vtuber?
>>29175799Suisei and Miko too
>>29175900I noticed that as well. It feels like she's the only one getting hit by this.
I saved this 3 hours ago, so i'm posting it>>29173720>Koshien month>2 sets of high profile debuts>graduation month for one of their more popular males>Salome still at 40k at the start of the monthI... I don't know how else to break this...But at least we get to post Iluna lewds today.Anyone know if the traps have good ones yet?
>>29175839They don't know anything, they just thought they'd magically create a Salome by copying her one hour streams.
>>29175941you mean the garbage truck of hololive? the one who has to stream for 6 hours to collect the fans that bleed from other streams after they are finished? her streams are literal dumps and she treats her fans like children, someone who goes to watch a chuuba just to watch her cry about his emotional baggage is a subhuman and need to fucking kill themselves
Are there really lesbos and gays watching vtubers unironically? How does nijiEN know that they watch that market when YT analytics doesn't show it or do they infer it from the likes/retweets of fanarts and deem the gay arts to be what most of their viewers want?
>>29176020Oh shit isreal. I check it earlier and their numbers is still the same. Wtf is this vod culling.
>>29175765My theory is a bit of buff has built for the ID server since everyone who visit praise it, it's now like a must go to place for Minecraft, and Moona is building another big project for a future festival too
>>291757651. No other ID girl is streaming2. Some of Kobo's tourists finally starting to integrate into ID box
>>29036297>>29036360it works for kayfabe purposes.
So, are the management for the new stars planning on removing the debut buff as fast as possible by having all streaming at the same time?
>>29175893Using that standards I hope this thread will never make fun of Noctyx and Luxiem anymore as long as majority of their streams are above 4k CCV. Heck, even NijiEN girls get 4k nowadays, without any debut buff
>>29175893If you can't make the cripple tally then you're worthless
>>29176118>actually asking that about a niche market with socially awkward peopleYes. Tons.
>>29175953Gura visit it earlier so maybe tourists?
>>29176118>do they infer it from the likes/retweets of fanarts and deem the gay arts to be what most of their viewers wantSuits are retarded so yes they infer from tweets and fanarts
>>29176158It's a collab you fucking ape.
>>29176158nvm i am retarded
>>29176158the collab will be only on Regis channel I think
>>29176120I wonder if youtube is just culling the alt tab vod views or something. Since those streams have insane alt-tabbing.
>>29176034Nah it also happens on miko on most of her vods
>>29176158The stream isn't even up yet, newfag. It's scheduled on holodex.
>>29176169>nijien girls>get 4k nowadays
>>29176169>>29176177
>>29176158The collab is in regis channel >>29176169noctyx is 3k averagethe girls are 2k averageand this are holostars so not helping make them look better
Kobo in Rio's chat! Says she loves his singing!
>>29175813Don't forget Miko's visit, and Sana and Kronii's visit.But really, it is just Gura's buff.
>>29035563Amelia or Kiara.
>>29176158... It's a multi-PoV collab, anon. If today is of any indication, their streams during this early period will start one after another, not all at the same time.
>>29176169Nobody makes fun of Luxiems numbers besides Kobofags, most anons here make fun of their cringe content and menhera breakdowns on Twitter. >even Nijigirls get 4k nowadaysAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAraids don't count retard
>Moona is selling the vacant house in the ID server to the listener, all they have to do is contact Yagooi know she's joking but i didn't even think of this possibility, Cover could potentially making solid bank or even use this as a charity of some sort. it's like buying NFTs but better
>>29176297my wife(male)....
>>29176034Everyone got hit by it even the ID girls
>>29175377Okay So what's her game buff?
anyways, anyone that watched watame's stream can explain that graph? i noticed it earlier, it peaked really early in a weird way and then it flatlined, and it's kinda spiky
>>29176158Pretty much. We know management literally insists that they stream at those hours, because clearly 90% of HoloEN already streaming during those times wasn't enough.Omegatroon is fucking mentally ill. Weird-ass obsession with PST pandering.15 HoloEN's and we only have 2 (two) that stream in EST prime time, Ina and Fauna. EVERYONE else has to pander to fucking PST (or JST), aside from Kiara.Like does this retarded nigger realize there's like 150 million EST americans vs 50 million PST?
>>29176169>noctyx and nijien girls are now stars levelfucking christ just terminate those waste of resources already and focus on luxiem and the new wave
>Moona is eating againAll is good in the world.
>>29176118Yeah alot of them, including myself but I watch holos
>>29176388Good.
>>29176360RE7
When did ID superchats get enabled?
>>29176339>Make a copy of Holo MC server>Start auditioning the houses to the fans, with the promise that Holos might visit this server occasionally>?>Profit!
Are there comparisons between TEMPUS first streams and Iluna's first streams (not debuts)?
>>29176376Anon, Fauna and Ina aren't EST primetime, that's Gura. Fauna skirts the line because at least most wagies are home by then but Ina starts either when people leave work or are transiting home.
Hey guys, is twitch fucking down for anyone?
>>29176360Prob gonna be RE8. If that doesn't recover her numbers it actually over.
>>29176444a while ago, we clowned on them cause of the zeros when it happened, fun times
Honestly things are looking pretty dire for Hololive EN. They aren't expanding their fanbase, they're just splitting them up between multiple streams. Not enough new interest in the boys. Huge recline on every talent besides Gura, with Mori unable to hit 8k and Fauna just barely scraping 6k. That plus the 1 hour mandate on streams for the first month will cripple the boys' growth. Iluna is going to absolutely destroy them in ccv in the coming months, it won't even be close
>>29176444A month or two ago
>>29176485Only the Latina, she got 2k more than Noir iirc
>29,908 on a buffed gameオワコンですわァァ。。。
I wished there were risk-takers in Cover. They would've gotten the female market with their own EN male vtubers if they weren't so afraid to debut them early 2021, waited for a year so that starsJP gets 3D and debuts uproar which is a flop. All of it results in nothing substantial. Their numbers didn't move despite being heavily advertised. Now Koreans are taking an interest in vtubers, yet these people aren't gonna take the risk of it "just because" they are afraid of the sentiment between japanese and korea. They're all 2D entertainers for fuck sake. NijiEN is speedrunning getting canceled by Susan with those 6 debutees, yet they aren't afraid of the risk.
>>29176527Retard.
>>29176335Pomu Selen and Enna (once in a while) pull it off without raids but they're also NijiEN's best hires
>>29174548>4chin is back >new koyo YAB OH NO NO NO NO
>>29176485
>29176527nijiCN will never be popular in the west
>>29176258getting real sick of the goalpost moving of what constitutes a viewYouTube needs to get over it, Chuubas are here to stay.
>>29176496Well she better start it soon before people actually forgot about her along with her millions of prerecorded premiere shit.
>>29176489Kill thyself Twitch user.It works on phone though.
>>29176527(you)
>>29176550>Niji takes risk>Cover gets dragged along by sheer luckIt keeps happening nijisis....
>>29176482surely the value lies in the fact that it's located in the live holo MC servers and that Holos might pass your house/structure when they stream minecraft
>>29176444IDs really love numbers
30k for a debuff game isn't bad, it's same tier with Miko, but still...
>>29176646I don't really watch twitch vtubers, I just use it to check trends and upcoming meta games. Btw, xqc is currently doing her "Pekora comeback phase" he might go back to being a 100k shitter by the end of the month.
>>29176527This, but unironically. High debut numbers were the thing HoloEN had a clear upper hand over Niji or other groups. Now that Niji has reached that level (and more, even, if you count the simul-cast stream), what does HoloEN still have? That was around 100k+ people watching new NijiEN livers last night. If NijiEN has managed to expand this far with just around 30-40k people watching their debuts, just imagine how far iluna, who was able to showcase their personalities to 100k+ people, can push NijiEN in EN market.
>>29176527>Hololive>the boysfuck off beggar
maybe she should stop playing this
>>29175799Doesnt YT have a mechanism in place to remove "low quality" views or something? I distinctly remember reading about it, no idea what qualifies as such though.
>>29176723Its now called debuff when getting shit numbers rumao, clearly reclining
>>29176788Retard
Honestly, I think Nijifags are coping that they fail yet again to find another Gura in their gens after listening to the first 3 seconds of Maria's debut.
>29176788>iluna, who was able to showcase their personalitiesthis is some deranged bait.
>>29176536Tbf that was also a debut redo because the first one was borderline unwatchable.
>>29176805She'll stop once she goes sub 20k. And then panics and starts a new resident evil stream series, and then panics and do a karaoke stream if that flops too.
>>29176788Not sure. It seems like cover is content to coast along while Niji is being the aggressive market expander. In the end, history always favors those who take risks. Cover's just too slow to keep up nowadays, and they rely far too much on breakouts like Kobo to remain relevant
HoloID hag beat Sana. Sana is now back at the bottom of Hololive girls subs count. The graduation announcement buff merely delayed the inevitable.
>>29176805Sub 30k… it keeps going down
>>29176866Aia will be the one that finally makes nijiEN popular outside of china.
>>29176866Wave 7 will surely have the gura killerWave 6 is just setting the foundation for it
>>29176628No, the only content creators that should exist are Twitch's scraps that they pay for. God forbid they ever take advantage of one of the largest categories of live streaming native to THEIR OWN platform.
>>29176924>graduating as last in the company
Are we dead again..?
>>29176527>they're just splitting them up between multiple streamshe says that now that nijiEN has 26 members....when the ones on break return this shit is going to be a bloodbath
>>29176527Take your fucking meds.
>>29176805SUB 30k ANON LOOK WHAT YOU'VE DONE!!!
>>29176858Tell me how I'm wrong? The more people watch your debut, the more chances for you to appeal to the potential new fans. The blue guy from holostarsEN has already dropped to below 5k with debut buff. If some of Iluna members can maintain ~8-10k CCV after 1-2 months, will you accept that Niji has very successfully managed to expand in EN market over Holo (relatively) recently?
>>29176527>>29176788>>29176903If you're going to samefag you should try to be less obvious rather than just saying the same thing with the same post style 3 times
I think 4chan needs graduation stream.
We good now?
>>29176169None of that actually happened the way you imply it does.>males are made fun of by Indos because they are losing to the likes of HoloID of all people>females are pitied because they're women in a Nijimale world>both get massively shit on for literally being everything bad that people expected the EN Vtuber community to be when HoloEN was announced>both get doubly shit on because the company they work for treats talents like disposable assets and keeps debuting waves like they're gacha rolls
>>29176903>takes risks>closed en>closed in>closed kr>closed id>returned to en after holoen explosionYou overestimate anyblack. Nothing but trend chasers. Watch them go back to id cos of Kobo
>>29176788as a nijifag their debut numbers are indicative of nothing and it doesn't help that most of them offer no reason to keep watching, they will 100% be noctyx tier within the week
>>29177038Anon we just took a break.
>>29176723Debuff ?? this game is buff game anon = Holocure buff
>>29175196>Babutarou debuting her Live2D model on July 29th at 8pm (https://youtu.be/U4nf5gaaAPU).).KekThey ALL came back this July.
how many hamsters have died today...
>>29177033>~8-10k CCVmeds
>>29177033Sure but judging by them they will have a branch knee capping twitter politics yab before 1-2 months.
>>29176890Huh, is she that much of a numberfag to be afraid and has to stick to trendy or popular game or something? I never watch her to know.
>>29176924Gura collab incline
>>29177038What's our graduation peak CCV?
>>29177001The difference is that each Niji wave caters to a new audience, albeit for better or worse. So by expanding, they're always introducing more talent to their community, who will inevitably get absorbed into the Niji "box." It's a slight recline initially followed by a gradual incline for talents
>>29176884I was being half-serious, though. While I'm not that confident that they will success, it's undeniable that having a debut in front of 100k people is a lot more helpful for you to expand your popularity than doing so in front of 40k. Showing your personalities and attracting new viewers are some of the crucial points for debuts
>>29176956Nah. All of this is just a fundationWave 69 will have the gura killer!
>>29177104haha, it's
Apprentice numberfag here. How is this possible? Huge surge and then a more huge drop.
I'm guessing Regis settles in as a 2k ccv streamers, Axel at 3.5k, Magni at 6k, and Noir at 4k. Not bad.
>>29177163it's a youtube bug
>>29176339Might be onto something here
>>29177163That's what people call the Z anonIt's possible because YouTube is a dogshit website that doesn't work
>>29177147again, what personalities? they're all just generic coombaiting SJW types.
>>29176960seriously I dont understand the angle hereit's not like they aren't advertiser friendlywhat is the financial benefit of the cull?
AAAAAAAAAAA HOME
>>29176950Is this really the Viet one? Most Vietnamese or Asian in general I've known aren't that interested in religion, identity, or "meaning of life and death"...
>>29177163they want to get on our tally so they hire a viewbot that makes that exact pattern
>>29176924Gura giving Sana one last kick on her way out.
>>29177033>If some of Iluna members can maintain ~8-10k CCV after 1-2 monthsthey will get those numbers at the cost of canibalizing lazulight and obsydias viewershell ive seen a lot of rosemi and selen watchers switching to them already
>>29177128I don't think that worked when ethyria happened. The group had a RU, Flip and tagalog panderer.
>>29177116It's not that salome is a numberfag but rather she is just confused. This is why the worse time to blow up is during your debut, since you have zero content data to work with on which direction your content will go. That's why half her stuff is just throwing random stuff to the wall and half is just following which content gets good numbers until they go dry.
>>29177128>each Niji wave caters to a new audience>Niji boxIs all faggots and sjw girls
>>29173559>no holoen in the top 10 againI'm really tired to say this line cuz it's too normal for them already
>>29177178Noir is a zatsu beast in a market with no high tier zatsu i think he can maintain higher than that, the meme of mag will lose steam, but his old fanbase and creative content can probably sustain him 7-10k
>>29177147Large debut numbers didn't help Noctyx.
>>29177035People are allowed to share opinion, anoninb4>E-edit element
Last time Pekora played Rythm heaven she got 36k, even though she had completed the game like two years earlier.
>>29177265i think it was an awkward attempt at humor
>>29176527
>>29176597It's a nothingburger
Watched regis's stream, he is actually decent at using his voice to larp characters. Needs to stop playing jrpgs debuff though.
Moona is still streaming*
>>29174715NijiID is missing out.
>>29177353Don't forget, she played that game during the minecraft overlap hell before sportfest. Though to be fair that has a mini yab buff to it.
>>29177383Blue Baby Power
>>29177128>each Niji wave caters to a new audienceanon, you're not fooling anyone.Even the fucking NijiEN general complains that they keep hiring the same kind of people instead of filling niches.It's called>nearsightednessAlso, please use this for the next thread op.
>>29177128ThisIluna bringing in the sjw and lgbt crowd will do wonders on their numbers since its a new untapped market for big corpo vtubersplus they already secured the latin and flip markets which are huge in terms of numbers so Iluna might actually be the myth killer
>>29177383
Reminder:
>>29177147they showcased their personalities and all of them were boring, i'm sticking to lazulight + obsydia - finana (not because her opinions are retarded but because she spams gacha games)
>>29174548huh she's friends with Boruto author?
>>29177380He needs better control with the avatar as well. The phone placement looks like at a weird angle
>>29177464Why do you guys have to always use Fauna for literally everything.
>>29177348Sorry, I didn't think two different people could be that retardedAnon always finds ways to disappoint
>>29177458>1 holoen on the top 10OWAKON>OWAKONOWAKON>OWAKON
>>29177380>debuffi find it entertaining. he has a good range. his whistles is pretty legit. i didn't know you can whistle like that.
>>29177287Seeing that audience of current nijiEN females are culled just as hard as holoEN, I doubt they will get 8-10k if they just take over current nijiEN's fanbase. If they are to get 8-10k, it'll likely be from new, unculled audience (i.e: what Luxiem did).
>>29177383Damn, Gura hasn't streamed 30 hours this month. Literally less than 1 hour a day. Guess she's burnt out
Moona minecraft>9.7k peak
>>29175595he cycles between Gen5, Gen6, Gen1 daily whichever takes his fancy.someone needs to forcefeed meds to him.
>>29177449there are people ITT who will think this post is an actual, real opinion but in case they don't bite here's your free (you)
>>29177291So, why does she not just go for trendy or popular game then, there are data in place to suggest MonHun or Minecraft. She really doesnt care, or she is actually that popular to do whatever then? Im real confused too.
>>29177493are you sure you're not confusing axel with regis?
>>29177502Retard
>>29177502No luxiem in Top 10
>>29177497Cucklings are sensible to any negative comment their oshi could potentially receive.
>>29177497faufau is cute
>>29177511I can see Iluna getting those numbers but only if nijien actually drops the deadweights like obsydia noctyx and ethyria from their company and focus more on lazulight luxiem and iluna
>>29177527no, gen5/6 schizo, gen1 copyschizo, and the leeching whores schizo are different peoplesadly it'd be easier to pin everything on one dude
>>29177518Why
>>29177550She's not a good entertainer. Her whole schtick is based on the ojou-sama thing and that's running out of steam extremely quickly.
>>29176527So true nijisis frfr no cap
>>29177497There's one schizo who really hates her for some reason so people probably like using her getting good numbers as an example to annoy him
>>29177449>SJW>Watching things cater to them instead of complaining about something else.KEK. There is reason why saying "Go Woke, Go Broke" exist.
>>29177563Both, Regis in on topic
>>29177497i love mommy
>>29176527>>29176550>>29176788>>29177033>>29177147These posts reads in a very disgusting way.
>>29176527>H-honestly things are looking pretty dire for Hololive EN
>>29177241The point is to keep CPM and RPM rates high by filtering out ad impressions that didn't actually reach the intended audience. Advertisers pay more when they know that the viewers of a video they're advertising on actually saw the ad and weren't just bots or people listening in an inactive or muted tab. The issue is that they are doing this too aggressively, to the detriment of the content creators. Numbers beget numbers and they indirectly harm public perception of creators whose audiences are culled by making them look like they're reclining.
>>29177550I think there was a huge wall of text posted in earlier numberthreads from one salome viewer explaining her personal faults and apparently she is really really bad at video games. The reason why most people complain of her dead air is due to her trying to focus too much on not being garbage at video games.
>>29177545How am i wrong though? none of the big 2 has pandered to the lgbt community which is hungry for attention and will bring numbers and exposure to the group
>>29177383IRyS already streamed 9 times this month? Going by the complaints of IRyStocrats from /hirys/ at times, I thought she only streamed 2-3 times at most.
>>29177630ID inclined Ollie can beat Vox
>>29176527>>29176788>>29177033
>>29177464I think delaying the stream by a day really fucked up Council debut numbers. I know several people who cleared up Saturday in preparation for the relay who couldn’t watch it on Sunday cause they pushed off their obligations to that day.
>>29177653she still seems fun to me but I don't watch her every day
>>29176527"HoloEN is dying" anon says for the 50th time this week
>>29177627no copyschizo is a different person who arrived along with internkun and noor
>>29177691You can meme about it, but times are changing. Hololive can't remain on top forever, and it's obvious that Nijisanji is serious about EN given their expansion
>>29177704Thank you Lord Kobo, for crushing the Luxiem menace
>>29177729>94k>fucked upsure thing. the new nijitroons couldn't get close to that without a 10k Z and shitloads of ads.
>>29177688nah, i didn't find anything weird with regis. axel was pretty obvious. his phone placement was like top down
Falseflaggers cured me of numberrot. Seeing their shitty baits day in and out got so tiring this forced break made me realize why i shouldn't be here. Abayo.
I know the boards been dead for most of the day, but did we talk about Gibara redbuting as a vtuber yet?
>>29177128>absorbed into the Niji "box."this one?
>>29177769they can and they will
>>29177704moona doubling her average minecraft viewership isn't an incline, it's a rocket-propelled vertical leapdid Pekora show up or something?
>>29177769EN(CN)
>>29177769ThisIm pretty sure wave 7 will crush holoen since wave 6 is just setting up the foundations
>>29177694They don't actually need to do this with public-facing numbers though, youtube is quite capable of showing different values to viewers and the channel ownerPlus if their goal is to seem like the bastion of trustworthy CPM numbers they're doing a terrible job, everyone I know in marketing assumes google are scamming the fuck out of everyone because their engagement figures never add up and a lot of ads burn through their entire budget without doing anything
>>29177550>>29177696I'm referring to this post basically >>28981534
>>29177704Kek someone can post it.
>>29177699
>>29177862does anybody have the North America (China) slide?
>>29177847that's a cube, retard
>>29177515Apparently she's been super busy this month, she wasn't expecting it so she almost cried during a member stream because of it.
>>29177515She's been "working" on something behind the scenes according to her member's stream. She's also got her monthly illness again due to black mold covering everything in her place.
>>29177858I think Gura visiting the ID server yesterday gave them a buff.
>>29177891>new group brings in numbersnousagis are retarded
>>29177868You said that already about Luxiem then Noctys right Nijisis?
>>29177858no pekora no collab just solo play.
>>29177834Axel's problem is dynamic ratio, moves too fast too far, but you are also right
I genuinely don't understand why people are shitting on that anon, his points are fair.while holoEN isn't dying, they aren't expanding their fanbase, it's literally the same 50k people who are split amongst them all, and they just hop from one stream to another more often than not which is why we don't see EN getting big numbers and seeing others killed by overlaps, if this keeps going then by the time two more gens are out enough and more overlaps happen, the numbers simply won't be good
>>29175799>>29176020It’s pretty blatant and in this case, 1000% reasonable. Obviously it’s not expected to happen right, but there was clearly some bullshittery going on that day. Each one hitting 40k+ ccv was telling to me that there were probably too many excessive swaps between the audience that youtube checked and said okay, we counted this wrong. 40k streams like that don’t reach 700k+ views, no matter the hype. It must’ve just been as said: a constant cycle of those people rotating between the streams and bloating all of them. If not that, bots
>>29177842not yet i think, but why does lulu and gibara wants to become a vtuber again? Do they want to join vshojo or something?
>>29177769please tell me you guys aren't taking the fucking debut day numbers seriously...do you retards not have long term thinking capabilities? do you become a deer in headlights if you get asked what you want to do a month from now?
>>29177383>Holoen streams less than Nijien but still gets better numbersSo hardwork is shit when you are talentless and not entertaining huh
>>29177952trannies don't watch streams or buy merch. they just complain and complain until you capitulate to them, then they start the cycle over again. they're an even bigger powder keg than the chinks.
>>29177952haven't you learned nothing, next to the axis of big and small numbers, there's the axis of good and bad numbers
>>29177870I agree with you, but try explaining this to the retard higher ups making these decisions and pajeets who poorly implement them at Google and YouTube.
>Cover gets even tighter ass scouting standards after council>Forge EN3 in the fires of mount doom containing 5 gura killers>Nijicope
>>29177033>If some of Iluna members can maintain ~8-10k CCV after 1-2 months, will you accept that Niji has very successfully managed to expand in EN market over Holo (relatively) recently?I remember Noctyx got shit number after 3 streams, less than 2 weeks, they were at 2-4k. If iluna gets 8-10k after 2 months. Sure
>>29177842the news roundup post a bit up.She took her sweet time, she's been a high 3 view for the past year.
>>29174548Where did this picture even come from?
>>29177957>Kobo now at 1.18m subsNO NO NO DONT REMIND MEEEE
>>29177952This group, or your kind especially, will bring nothing but trouble to the Vtubers. Staying far away from the troons will always be the best option no matter what they could potentially bring.
>>29177858>>29177947she's also in the midst of a big project for HoloID's independence day event
>>29177747No one said HoloEN is dying, anon. Losing their position as the undisputed most popular Global VTuber group, on the other hand.
>>29178119lol
>>29174548wait so the rrat about her being one of the assistant to kishimoto back then is true?
it's pretty obvious who the falseflaggers are when they LARP as nijifans but have opinions of NijiEN's future that are pretty much the exact opposite of people who actually watch nijiENNo one in Iluna is going to break any records or attract any new audience
Any StarEN goes for the "No outsider" approach? I won't hold my hope up cuz they need all the exposure they can get.
>>29178119Come back to me when at least 1 talent can consistently get 10k in US time and not JP/CN
>>29177842I believe we at least tried, but you know...
The collage anon here. Just in an hour I collected like 10 more postsShould I be more selective about it?
>>29178190thisno real nijifan would say this only holo falseflaggers
>>29177163
>>29177922
>>29178062she's afraid of Twitter, please understand
>>29177993You say that when nijiEN rarely even breach 10k on a timeslot not named CN. Even Gura reached 27k today with just minecraft, overlapping with the boys.
>>29177993Meds.Council has a very different audience from Myth.This is the reason some are still stuck at 600k subs
>>29178237Do you have standards?
Sora doing 1M endurance tomorrowhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4q18FZeR-0
>>29177842Babutaro had the best Animal cover till Polka's droppedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcxkKBWMvDY
>>29178211They cant even get 10k consistently on their own prime time
>>29177842Nijisanji black company confirmed
>>29178237im also collecting posts of people who are doubting Iluna getting regular 10k ccv 2 months from nowI cant wait to btfo this thread then
>>29177147Edengumi
This is just boring, I'm just reading the same posts everyday in a loop. If you are going to keep baiting at least come up with something new
>>291782873k, should be doable in 2 hours max. Go go daisenpai!
>>29176805I am surprised she kept that level after almost two months. I expected her to drop to 30k after one month.
>>29178286For now I specifically collect posts that are clearly shitpost
Imagine if Holostars EN had debuted before Luxiem
>>29178287She has it set at the 27th though
>>29177104does that imply that there's a non-compete clause in nijisanji regarding VTubers?retired members can do flesh streams but for VTubing they'll need to wait a year?
>>29177842I thought she wanted to get away from streaming and vtubing entirely. Why did she come back?
I can't tell anymore if people are stupid or are shit posting. NijiEN is your local beer league softball squad while HoloEN are the New York Yankees. That is the most accurate comparison between the two.
>>29178287 (me)never mind, not tomorrow, on wednesday. she should do it tomorrow though since it's quite close
>>29178364Nothing would change because China hates Hololive.
>>29178324truth iss not bait anonholo is slowly losing relevance, hell the jp branch with pekora and miko streaming lost to nijien
>>29178277I never compared them to nijiEN so why are you bringing them up exactly?>>29178282no they don't, most of them are the same which goes to show that most of the holoEN subs are actually dead, which is why everyone in both gens except for gura has similar numbers
>>29178172https://culturetour.net/japanese-last-names/kishimoto283
>>29178364Unfortunately cover dragged their feet. Too worried about their male fanbase that they didn't capitalize at all on an untapped market
>>29178364Imagine if Izuru kept his mouth shut over business decisions
>>29178297gura exists
>>29178267she's afraid of everything. At this point I wonder what the problem is.Laziness? Social anxiety? Imposter syndrome? Actually busy irl? Hates her job?
>>29177922>>29178250And the obligatory followup,>英語圏(北米(中国))
I'm curious how much of this is either shitposting or some sort of misguided belief that the SJW crowd is for some reason a viable audience given the propensity of that group to implode whatever property and fanbase they attach themselves to.
>>29178389I don't like saying black company, but nijisanji is clearly a black company if their graduated talents would rather be indie vtubers than continue working for them
>>29178250I know people in here are generally uneducated on the actual subject (not an insult btw, we dont exactly have actual data to form facts that easily), but just based on opinions which do people in here think about Hololive vs Nijisanji in the EN front? Njjisanji released a bunch in succession vs Cover 1 per year?
>>29178341Her previous rhythm heaven stream was suppose to be sub 40k if it weren't for the holiday buff.
>>29178287Actually the day after tomorrow (at least in my time zone)
Mogposting is the dumbest kind of post itt cause they genuine throw all context out of the windowNo shit of cause a debut stream would be the biggest stream of the day
>>29178119
>>29178172>>29178415It's more likely that either her manager or one of the girls is named Kishimoto
>>29177497Because mommy is popular uuuuuUUU
>>29178470it's obviously shitposting
>>29178458Referring to nijicn
>>29178405
>>29178297tbf Gura is the only EN chuuba that always gets 10k+Anons were comparing Salome to Gura in terms of how they completely dominated their regions, except Gura has continued to dominate for nearly 2 years now and that shows no sign of stopping
>>29178294> The best Covers often have the worst numbersthe world is unfair...
>>29175679when has she said that?
I really fucking hope these retards will still post here once a week comes by.
>>29178588the nijinigs will never leave. we let them get comfortable.
>>29178411How?Literally how are the subs dead?Fauna is easily able to pull 150K views per stream now and not everyone watches all her stream.Mumei does even better.Plus, the next thing I will add is whenever there is a a overlap between a myth and Council stream, they both do pretty well.
>>29177993you're at the very tail end of Council's era anon. EN3 will revitalize the branch again, as new generations always do.You'd realize this if you used your brain to think of a time period that goes a little more than two fucking days.
>>29178643Calm down. No one is pulling 150k per stream, not even Salome managed that
>>29178689He clearly means vods
>>29178588Of course they will, moving goalposts saying that Holostars can't even beat Luxiem after they mog iLuna
>>29178544they lost to Iluna though? even with pekora doing a buff minecraft stream
Are Nijikeks really feeling confident after those debuts last night. Those debuts were fucking terrible. A total train wreck disaster.>BUT MUH VIEWERSHIPYeah, 80k people saw your entire company fall flat on their face. An embarrassment.
>>29178190>>29178243#46 No true Nijifan
Fuck MANS thread they are fast
>>29178723They already lose the moment they are fine competing with HOLOSTAR of all thing
>>29178287Is Poruka doing it with her? I had heard that they were planning on doing an endurance stream together.
>>29178294Okayu's Animal is better than Polka's.
>>29178749anon, they are here shitting up this thread precisely because those debuts are shit and they don't want us to dwell on that
>>29178389Maybe Nijisanji wanted to force her into a music group
>29178747put some effort into it anon
>>29178267hey shes getting better, she just replied to a fan art tweet
HIC My tummy hurts after biting all this bait
>>29178749if Iluna is a disaster then tempus is worse since it got a measely 40k didnt even win gold lmao
>>29178784I think that plan just ended up becoming the We Were Here Together stream they did yesterday.
>>29178405drink your juice sister, maybe that'll help you come up with better bait
>>29178749The half Latina did a redebut and it only got 13k so that's not exactly a good sign for normal streams. Magni unironically narrowly beat it out with his first ever art stream.
>>29178119>>29178405
>>29178477you're on the numbers threadthe numbers speak for themselves
>>29178477They're both using the same strategy they use in JP and both getting more or less the same sort of resultsCover tries to find a few really strong talents who fit their box each year and pushes them all together, so they're small but all relatively strongAnycolor spams debuts, invests in the ones who claw their way to the top, and leaves the rest to languish with no further support after debut, so they have some big hitters but a lot of misses who just sort of get fucked
The issue is that vtubing appears to be growing in JP allowing for higher highs for all JP vtubers. A rising tide lifts all boats.On the EN side vtubing needs to break into the mainstream more before we see bigger numbers. You can create a hype event to tap the existing fanbase, but that won't grow the industry.
>>29178411I think you don't know what overlap means anon.An overlap will be the ender dragon fight where we can see that the audience is pretty divided as some reach 10k and some reach 5k.But the other day, Mori and Bae were streaming and they got 11k, 8.5k
>>29178837Congrats you beat holostars. Gonna brag about beating gentoo of phase as well?
>>29178405HoloX all got over 100k on debut too anon
>>29178898Unironically if Vshojo weren't so fucking garbage they could've actually helped propel vtubing into the main stream but they're just so fucking retarded and are a bunch of dumb whores just ruined most chances.
>>29178689Anonchama, are you retarded?
>>29178873someone post the nervous man pic
>>29178783Okayu's is the base Animal and her voice is smooth, but Animal is a pretty shitty song.Polka and bbtr at least bring some spice.
>>29178938they also beat miko and pekora buff game today
I'm still waiting for a valid explication for the 10k chatters in 60-80k vivewers other than tourist, ILUNA's chats should have been unreadable
>>29178976I thought he accidentally added another 0
>>29178837Refer to>>29178871That's not a good sign for Iluna.
>>29178985scroll up >>29178492
>>29178643when you play for 8 hours, I'd expect you to have 150k vod viewsdon't see a single 1-2 hour vods that have 150k anon, except her asmrs which is to be expected at least
>>29179000Okay. Try doing it again tomorrow yes?
>>29178974>vtubers are cringeAnd all vtubers gets dragged with their reputation
>>29177858Nothing. She's just building while occasionally mumbling to herself.
Every time the shitposter mention 80k just reply with Scarla 2nd stream number
>>29178678not really, or at least not the extent you seem to think. the hype is gone.
>>29177128>Floods the market with livers, hoping some will effectively tap the unknown markets.>Produces Rosemi 2.0 to cater new marketsThis must be a joke of a strategy.
>>29178898>>29178974This is actually probably a bigger factor than people would like to admitThe western normie perception of EN vtubers was defined by hololive (idols appealing to unicorns) and vshojo (crass sluts) and it's too late to shake that
Just came back and thread is already filled with the low quality bait what happened? what made the nijizhangs seethe so hard today?
>>29179119they didn't beat fauna
>>29178974If Gunrun isn't an idiot, he would have coerced kson into a lot of appearances and sponsorships to make her the image of Vshojo.>the charismatic rebel that still has experience in the fieldThis only because Ironmouse can't attend stuff irl.
>>29179119Please understand, Nijibugs are coping hard over their new "wave" being an absolute dumpsterfire
>>29178974>they could've actually helped propel vtubing into the main streamthats impossible in the en market since the mainstream (aka fleshmarket) thinks vtubers are cringe unlike the jp or id market which dont have/ are indifferent of them
>>29179119They only beat Sana with a Z and couldn't beat Fauna with that Z either.
>>29179119their debuts are total disasters and they are shitting up this thread to prevent the most influential thread from making bait posts
>>29178411>I never compared them to nijiEN so why are you bringing them up exactly?You're acknowledging the point that one anon made that HoloEN isn't expanding and implying nijiEN is expanding. As much as you like to shit upon HoloEN, they opened the market first with the help of HoloJP. Most people knows about vtuber because of them, not nijiEN. NijiEN only caters to the different tastes while HoloEN still holds the majority. >if this keeps going then by the time two more gens are out enough and more overlaps happen, the numbers simply won't be goodyou're retarded, holoEN's problems is always dead slots
>>29178911I love how you mentioned what the ender dragon fight was but didn't mention what baelz and mori we're playing, so please do enlighten me anon, what was baelz playing during that "overlap"of course two streams isn't going to be n overlap, and the ender dragon fight was pretty much an event that didn't have any other people overlapping them, what happens when that slot has 2 or 3 extra streams from other future gens? you're the one who doesn't understand what I'm talking about
>>29178889That Anycolor strategy seems like using talents as tools for market expansion instead of treating them like human being lol. Even Bealz on the Hololive side get a PC case collabs even if she is deadass not as popular.
Oumiya Emma (now of AETHERIA) debut a new outfit and numbers are on screen.
>>29176527Sana knew what she ws doing leaving that sinking ship.
>>29179111>idols unicornCover wanted to avoid that bullet by reintroducing as entertainment company. But no one rebuts this old perception that it continues to be the narrative
>>29179197Anon they had connections to flesh streamers and could've tried their best to make it work. This isn't the 90's anymore, anime isn't some obscure shit only nerds watch. Instead, they acted like a bunch of classless whores and themselves acting like being a vtuber is fucking cringe. Not a good look.
>>29179119Iluna is a disaster of a Wave and their trying to shitpost a justification that their going to break out into new markets and get good numbers just based off their debut CCV.
>>29179254She got some nice paypigs there uh?
>>29179111I actually goes way farther than that. The moment pewdiepie shilled kizuna ai a lot of fleshtubers became anti's due to 2 reasons first was pewds shilling her and second was anime
>>29179254is this the fabled you can survive on 200 paypigs 3view
I FUCKING HATE DEBUTS. BE IT FROM HOLOLIVE OR FROM NIJISANJI. STUPID DEBUT TOURIST WITH THE MOST RETARDED FUCKING TAKES JUST SHUT THE FCUK UP.
Thread today seems severely low quality today, I guess we're dealing with the aftermath of the debuts huh....
>>29179042Even her fucking clips get 100k+ regularily what are you on about
>>29179000Fr fr Holobronies don't understand that wave 6 is like the second coming of myth they will literally take the top spot and btfo HoloEN and Holol in its entirety. Pekora who? Miko? Nijisanji will soon flood the market with their vtubers and choke all of its competitor to death.
>>29179304>>29179254those are all gifted subs from 3 people
>>29178749First and last were great. 4 in the middle were more for twitter crowd. They will be hated here but they will be successful same way Mori is.
>>29179254Looks pretty
>>291793784 in the middle don't fucking have Mori's retarded worth ethic and original music releases in a genre that isn't really touched upon at all. It's not even close to compare.
>>29176518That economy with a lot of zeros is actually more resilient than most developed world with single digit currency in this trying times.
>>29179251I think she might get that Korean con appearance as well, they’re announcing another EN member today
>>29179235>You're acknowledging the point that one anon made that HoloEN isn't expanding and implying nijiEN is expandingI didn't imply anything, it's pretty obvious what you're trying to do here but let me reassure you that I'm not implying that nijiEN is somehow better than holoEN you faggot>holoEN's problems is always dead slotsyou're the retarded one, there are only so many hours in the day, overlaps will become the norm like they are in jp and it will end up killing the numbers for everyone if they don't expand their fanbases
>>29179294>Anon they had connections to flesh streamers and could've tried their best to make it workthey had connections to anime adjacent fleshstreamers which largely overlaps with their audiencethe main en streamer audience dont like anime and anything anime adjacent thats why you see non anime adjacent streamers shit on anime all the timeen streaming is a different beast compared to jp or id
>>29179119I went outside of this board for once and ask all the Niji people I know about ILuna. To my surprise, even the people outside of here refer to them as a mediocre wave at best and one of them just tell me "fucking dogshit failure of scouting" which is well, a little too harsh for meInb4 Nijinig tell me "Holo falseflagger". Well just to make it sound objective, they do have hope for Maria and Scarla but that's it. And while I don't really know to much about it, they seem to like Obsydia and constantly compare this wave to them
>>29179359Not that anon but why the heck is clip views any indicator of popularity? The one with more views are more popular, really?
The ESL in this thread is getting out of hand, I hate SEA hours.
Is this guy arguing about Fauna's numbers samefagging and being retarded on both sides on purpose?
>>29179378>first and last were greatYou talking about Holostars? I know you aren't talking about NijiEN wave 6. The only think from the Niji debuts that can be described as great is when it was finally over and we were finally released from the hell of watching that fucking trash.
>>29179251Just look at Obsydia. Over a year now and still no new outfit, whereas Council debuted a month later than them and got outfits in fucking January. Myth got 3D where's Lazulight has it nowhere in sight. As far as the individual is concerned, you're way better off in hololive on average
>>29179359what the fuck are you even talking about? how is this relevant? might as well pull the twitter likes card
>>29179519Isnt it like 2am there? this is eu primetime which only solidifies my ruski and french shitposters
>>29178588they'll just start JP-EN timeloops again
>>29179519this is euro hours dumbass
>>29176805
>>29179608those are starting to fall off fashion since people are getting quicker at recognizing them
>>29178845ah, bummer. would've been something new.
>>29178245Does it mean the 9182 peak will not be considered here?
>>29179601it's just before midnight, so they're doing their rounds before they sleep in their mud beds.
>>29179519>EU time>blames SEAfucking frogs
>>29179042I mean the guy overshot with Fauna’s vods but the fuck are you on about? 150k for 1-2 hours? Really anon? Like dude what you’re describing is Subaru, one of the biggest vtubers out there. It’s ridiculously hard to get 150k view vods in such a short time consistently that I have no clue what you’re trying to say.
man nijibros you really disappointed with your new wave huh
>>29178993the piano arpeggios are pretty nice.
>>29179378The 4 in the middle have nothing going for unlike Mori and her music. The half Latina for example has a schedule that's practically built for shooting her growth in the foot.
-Different clippers-Both mainly Nijisanji (one use a Fauna related name pfp the other use Fulgur one-Temps have more clippable moments on their debut than ILUNA
>>29179466jp survived two years with overlaps, and even with overlaps, their numbers still looks good compared to 90% of the industry. Dead slots would always be a problem to HoloEN just because the girls likes to leave their slots empty with no one replacing them.
>>29179660sorry salami, 30k is for grownups
>>29179685just checked its like 1 therethis is the french shitposter from last month
>>29179296Did these retards really think CCv debut numbers will translate to views in the next couple of weeks? HAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>29179601Enshart poster is a euro. Several shitposters have said they're European. One shitposter is definitely a ruskie as he's posted phone screenshots they have Russian in them.Fucking Euros, wanna shit the place up but not own it.
>>29179680for the daily tally anon it does countthere's some other anons that don't count it, I think the EN tally anon made a comment to not count z's if they get in the podium or something like that
>>29178974I would say that's a good filter tbqh.I wouldn't want surface level faggots without 2 braincells infecting this hobby.The board is shitty enough as it is, those retards will bite every single bait no matter how expired.
Where's the tally Anon?
>>29179563He can't be talking about Holostars EN because all of those debuts were home runs. It was really amazing to go from the fantastic Holostars EN debuts to the awful NijiEN debuts which were some of the worst I've ever seen.
>>29179089sure
>>29179796Shhhh just let them beThe number will speak for itself, no need for us to speak for it. If everyone itt can just do that then the thread will be much better
>>29179809salome also has a huge latin following so its no surprise that she was also used as shitposting
>>29179701what the fuck are we even arguing about at this point? are people that retarded?I said that holoEN has huge overlaps in their fanbases, some retarded said that it's not true because council has half the subs myth has, I said that myth has dead subs and them some green retard said how is that possible when fauna gets 150k views per stream, I don't understand what your argument is at this point
>voltaction proves once again that vta is a failure>salami, a once in a couple years debut, flopping after wasting her>iluna not beating fauna and having a trashfire reaction because it's filled with twitter crowd fagsif you want to know why the thread's bad
>>29179119despite getting gold, their new livers are pretty mediocre and will be noctyx level in a week or so.and /MANS/ exists, which makes them seethe for some reason.
>>29179796I pointed it out earlier but Scarle's redebut got less numbers than Magni's art stream.
So anyway about SalomeHow the fuck she haven't found a SINGLE buff game series for herself yet? She is practically throwing shit at the wall now, one must stick already
>>29179235> nijiEN is expandingyou're spouting a lot of headcanon without backing them up with numbers, which is why you're obviously going to get called a retard.
uhhh... it's 2ami can't believe tally anon is dead
Bros? The daily tally? Don't tell me you fuckers moved the date cutoff again
So like... who won gold?
>>29179495Wasn’t it 30k applications or something they said?
Ado also technically became a corpo Vtuber this monthhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt0M0iPA2dgNow all we need is this split hair bitch to give in and get a model. All she does is sing covers and play Apex with Vtubers anyway.Just being an uitate doesn't pull the numbers it used to.
>>29179251The way Cover does sponsorships and collabs is they'll sign a deal for a company to do something with "hololive", then offer that out to whichever talents are interestedThat's how you get really bizarre looking deals like Luna shilling Microsoft Flight Simulator
>>29179993Iluna wonwhich is why they wont post the tallly
>>29179753so we compare jps to ens whenever we feel like it and then call it bait when it doesn't suit our narratives? I swear the IQ of this thread is dropping by the second
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *Here it goes>90,269: Ren Zotto (Nijisanji)>79,772: Aster Arcadia (Nijisanji)>74,480: Aia Amare (Nijisanji)>74,059: Scarle Yonaguni (Nijisanji)>69,996: Kyo Kaneko (Nijisanji)>67,178: Maria Marionette (Nijisanji)>65,290: NIJISANJI English Official (Nijisanji)>60,529: Miko (Hololive)>52,306: Pekora (Hololive)>50,675: Hayato (Nijisanji)>49,169: Shiina (Nijisanji)>27,715: Gura (Hololive)>24,825: Kobo (Hololive)>23,541: Mayuzumi (Nijisanji)>22,841: Korone (Hololive)>18,776: Koyori (Hololive)>14,054: Mio (Hololive)>14,057: Magni (Holostars)>13,270: Fubuki (Hololive)>12,628: Scarle Yonaguni (Nijisanji)>11,434: Laplus (Hololive)>11,397: Lui (Hololive)>11,018: Noir Vesper (Holostars)>10,620: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>10,535: Noir Vesper (Holostars)>10,305: Ina (Hololive)A very stacked day with the NijiEN new wave debut taking most of the top spots
>>29178438another turn in Cover's/Anykara's Tesla/Edison|Apple/Microsoft duel. what do you guys think the next one will be? first to expand into the EU market?
>>29179913Some will be lucky to get Noctyx numbers in a week. Theirs schedules that look like Finana tier debuffs.
So. I think I've spotted a pattern. Every niji wave released in the last year has had good to great debut numbers, but 95 % of all the talents falter and flails themselves down to irrelevancy. Hence the accelerated pace of releasing a new wave to bring new "hype" to the company. However this pattern means the company has a obvious cyclical pattern of High only when debuts happen and during events but never outside of that. This is something that can't look good on paper, especially if your a public company. Hence they needed a solution, easy disposable livers, you can even call them recycled, that will debut, create hype and graduate without much fuss or risk to the company.What am I talking about, Salome of course. She popped up out of nowhere and was meant to bring hype between the real waves. This worked so splendidly Riku is bound to try it again. The next chance is even coming sooner than you think, Nijifes at the end of August. At that point the hype for the new gens will have died of, Koshien is done and dusted. Nijifes just being concluded they need that little hype to stay relevant until the next gen releases. Bam. VampBoy 2.0 will be released, he'll have some quirky mannerism, and be meant more as a show piece than a real liver. And you know what's great with disposable livers that haven't really created a bond to their fan base? Extra whammy with an easy graduation. On top of that you've also created new IP to continuously create merch for even though the liver is dead and buried. And no, I will not take my meds.
>>29179668What baits are meta?Praising NijiEN with delusions seems to get a lot of (You)s right now but that will pass with time.What are some timeless baits?
>>29175710Nope. Koyori will be featured on the new seasons of Boruto.
>>29180047Nijisanjification in process
>>29180047HE'S ALIVE
>>29180047HOLOLIVE BTFO
>>29179413Very pretty model.Also she's using that really nice looking filter that's getting popular, that gives a lot of definition and makes the bg move behind you.
>>29179955Can't get buff content if you ssuck at video games. See >>28981534
>>29179495i had high hopes for scarle as well but their pl's have already been leaked lol. anyone who still thinks this wave is any good is high on copium
>>29180062I mean pink cat good will never stop being good bait
>>29180018is that her sub channel or something? not familiar
>>29179986>>29179988He's in the flare shitpost thread Malding and Balding
>>29180024Im curious how much holoid got paid for that pubgm. They had better performance than nijicn
>>29180047Yeah, I challenge you guys to lewd **THIS**
>>29179998Who know. I just simply ask them about ILuna, hoping to at least heard some good thing about them outside of this place
I think what Nijisanji is trying to do is flood the market with their vtubers that way they don't have to rely on 1-2 liver too much. It also helps that they will cover all the slots of the day. While their competition HoloEN is too slow with their EN expansion and their talents don't stream as much as they should. I can't really say which method is more effective. Anycolor as a company will gain profit without any loss but I can't say the same thing for their talents though. At this rate internal conflict is unavoidable.
>>29180047>no holo in the podiumdead and dying company
>>29179742The fauna one hasn't uploaded a Fauna clip in 9 months (since his 1st month)It's just a NijiEN clipping channel.
>>29180062Shitting on holoEN seems to always work.
not the ENshart anon, but it is undeniable that the JP audience is far larger than the EN oneJP can reach combined CCV of 300k+ while EN is likely less than 100k (even including twitch chuubas)Yeah, Myth and debuts sometimes had 100k+ totals, but a substantial part of that were JP tourists
>>29180047>49,169: Shiina (Nijisanji)>27,715: Gura (Hololive)Jesus Christ what a gap...
>>29180048>EU marketdead marketthat market is literally IN tier when it comes to vtubing
>>29180205Yeah, it's like>new normal vs old normal27k would be enough for gold in many days this year
>>29175839They already have a fucking website showing their schedules. They are just that incompetent.
>>2918004750674 wont even give you a top 10. a day of murder.
>>291800472022-07-25 (JST) distribution
>>29180047Curses! I can't believe the Nijisanji debuts got such high viewership! We'll never live this down!Anyway I need to catch up to Regi's Zelda stream, let me know how they do after their debut streams.
>>29179742 Now post the views Holofag
>>29180179Is it just me or are there several channels that just clickbait with one holo clip + thumbnail and the rest is all niji?
>>29180158I always say thisNiji is too fast while Hololive is too slowA perfect company would be Niji managers + Hololive scouting team but alas nothing is perfect
>>29180205i can't wait until koshien is over so we can go back to normal numbershowever, peko and miko's streams are even more absurd if you ask me
>>29180151>Has no lewdswe're lewding all of Iluna todayPlus it might be the only time for most of them.>only Scarle has lewds>>29180047So be it.
>>29180047>90,269: Ren Zotto (Nijisanji)>27,715: Gura (Hololive)Behold the new face on EN vtubersGura is dead and niji slayed her
>14,057: Magni (Holostars)>12,628: Scarle Yonaguni (Nijisanji)This is an indication of the future viewership.
>>29180326>niji managersno thanks i dont want keychain spams for merch
>>29180296>innie Hololive vs. meatflaps Nijisanji
>>29180327Wont happen until after August. Yes Koshien will probably end after the first weekend, but they still have events and Holos have anniversaries and lives + Holosummer. Numberrot is here to stay.
This thread quality become lower after NijiEN debut lmao
>>29180047>10th place with 50kThat's crazy yo.
>>29178015But Anycolor would love to talk about it to boost their stock value.It is also entertaining to compare numbers.
>>29180179He's a fucking retard because had he stuck with Fauna he would've inclined with her like Sakasanday. Like fuck dude Slack Funday got hired by her for her birthday so even if he doesn't get nearly as many views he got real tangible money
>>29180059Salami has mostly crashed and burned already, and with every stream she's bleeding what audience she has left.Also her debut hype was mainly due to several factors -1. Niji main channel hit 1M.2. Kanae spoke about wanting to do a celebration prank.3. Joe's Kiriko stream which had occurred a couple of months before.4. First ever Niji solo debut.None of these factors are replicable. This was a one time chance, and they blew it.
>>29180360i saw scarle's schedule. yeah... she's going to recline further than that
>>29175839Remind me how back then Pekora reveal how Sankisei schedule their streams. Cover have a weekly schedule board and every Holo just put their stream on it throughout the week.Though according to Pekora's word, only Sankisei actively use it. Their way of scheduling was very simple: They check to see if there's any other Sankisei stream on the board and put their streams before of after each other. The Sankisei funnel was all planned
>>29180047>14,057: Magni (Holostars)>12,628: Scarle Yonaguni (Nijisanji)heh
>>29180101I feel like pink cat is losing relevance nowadays though... since she streams so little...
>>29180047When was the last time a 60k got 8th on the tally
https://twitter.com/daina_sou/status/1551445829860282368?t=VWKZK3s-6OFN-xfN26YdLg&s=19Behold, Dawr Dura
>>29180422Is that supposed to be a genderbend?
>>29180329>>29180047What are their chances of ever getting gold again?
>>29180399Niji managers actually know how to market their talents but they only have dog shit talents to advertiseMeanwhile Holo have good talents but their managers do jack shit
>>29180296you can clearly see the worthless sandbags below 5k on nijiJP
>>29180158They have been stressing and yabbing so much both on and off stream that things will eventually come to a head.The first NijiEN graduation and the reason for it will make or break the entire branch from that point onwards.
So what was Miko's announcement? Just her anniversary stuff?
>>29180505I think it further reinforces your point about her relevance that I initially thought you were joking about Koyori
>>29180563I would say graduation but likely not even thenSo never
>>29180552really? that's the design she's going for?
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>>29180555Yeah, she got a really strong artist fanbase with this model and so far.Hell, they even did a fantasy outfit redesign right before debut. This shit usually takes more than 3 days.
>>291805630 unless it's some sort of mega buffed event on a quiet day. Take one good look at her schedule it's goddamn Finana tier.
>>29180608Yeah. Also new accessories, most likely a separate stream for it just like PekoThey are literally the same and you can literally SEE it
How many years until Myth lands in consistent 3view territory? 2? 3?
>>29180456if this is your first debut, the numbers usually don't last.On that note, does anyone have Edengumi's numbers? That's probably one of the best examples of debut dropoff in the entire industry.
>>29180586yeah, niji managers whore them out to chinks. great managers you have there.
>>29180490They used Google Calendar. I forgot who but there was a browser leak several days ago that has Google Calendar on her bookmark.
>>29180497Not trying to start a loop but why does the vod with lower cc’d have 100k more views? Did the extra 20min really make such a difference?
>About 47% participation rate within 3 minutes and slows down afterSome screenshots of Pekker's polls during her TNT MC Cannon Championship
>>29180769Ah yeah right it was Google Calendar
>>29180676Gen 3 were incredibly strong but that was as much to do with their raw talent as streamers as it was their numberfag strategiesThe real popularity explosion happened after gen 4 debuted but mostly involved Korone and Fubuki getting memed in the west and creating an algorithm feedback loop
>>29180600They've hired some absolute drama bombs this time around. One can only imagine the behind the scenes tomfoolery.Please gib updated "accidental" discord leak.
>>29180586same managers that block collabs, force them to tweet that fake ass family shit, and gives them copy paste shit merch? nice management anon
wtf is wrong with hunterfags?
>>29180490>>29180769ENs have it too, Kiara has mentioned she and Ina use to communicate through them by typing random shit in them while they were filling in their schedules. Most don't seem to just give a shit about overlapping really, especially not that fucking retard Ame.
>>29180309They won't, because they know NijiEN is inclining. They're getting enough clippers to affect the algorithm and bring tourists over
>>29180819That algorithm loop got them the tourists, but their skills let the girls keep them.
>>29180812I still find it so funny that Nousagi all collectively pick the first option>Self proclaimed 'free-thinkers" nousagi when Pekora present them 2 optionsAnyway. Around 20k seem like her floor, the rest are probably tourist or some shit idk but they certainly can't be bothered to vote
>>29177515If the Aqua members post the other day is not faked then I think UMISEA is taking most of her time as well as her new original song. She's also got that gacha game shill cover too.
>>29180900Several years of hiatuses.
>>29180900They're DESPERATE for ANYTHING before he kicks the bucket. Also, the man has earned a following from years of work, from YYH to early HXH. It's just a damned shame about his health.
>>29180900Fad. I hope he doesnt commit suicide when that twitter engagement doesnt materialise. Though for weebs, reception will be real
>>29180819I mean the mere fact that they take scheduling seriously mean they have experience and know how important it is
>>29180024I find Microsoft Flight Simulator collabing with hololive more bizarre. Whoever pushed for this idea must be a lunaito.
>>29180900Hiatus x Hiatus
>>29180047Three times Hayato got stomped by Pekora while playing their overbuffed game. Feels good to be a NousagiChad.
>>29180900this is the equivalent to ayame streaming but the likes are converted to SC
>>29180986I'd recommend him to start only doing the storyboards to preserve his health, but I guess those wouldn't be all to different in quality from his current drawings.
>>29177104>came back in JulyI forgot that dtto also debut her live2D at the start of Julyhttps://twitchtracker.com/dttodot/streams/39458548327and Restia also got a live2Dboth Selen and RPR firends.They both played with Astel today.
>>29180794churn of viewers for scarle is bigger but they dont stayit was also common on noctyx post debut stream.
>>29180986Solo Leveling author died btw. News a few hours agoMangaka died a lot this year. Togashi lived though (for now) and Araki too
The problem with Hololive is that it's like being born with a silver spoon in your mouth. Once you're in, you don't need to work hard to maintain your paypigs. That's why hardly any of the girls in Hololive stream, they're just coasting by with zero ambitions. The Niji girls don't have a large audience to be able to just take a week off each month, so they're grinding hard to make themselves known. And it's working, because they're inclining and Council is in severe shape
>>29181034It was a general sponsorship for PC Game Pass and they let them play any games on there they wantedLuna naturally chose only games in genres she'd never played before that had no Japanese translation
>>29180190Vtubing isn't big at all. Niki should focus tightening their control of JP market
>>29180047Peko got rped
>>29180563Never lol
>>29181086Speaking of which, I wonder if Solo Levelings artist died from overwork, late reaction
>>29180938SALAMI TOURISTS.
>>29181110>Saying this when Sana existWhat kind of lie will you tell us next?
>>29180552Holy shit that's shameless. Who is she?
>>29180190That's not exclusive to vtubing. its similar with twitch streamers as well since they have the same issue of English speaking audiences are not located in a single/close timezone
>>29181052Too bad Peko got rped by Migo's 60k.
All of the people making fun of the NijiEN gen are going to regret their words when these first few weeks of streams are out. Big numbers are coming. It's different this time, I can feel it and I know you can feel it. 15k is the floor for Maria's middle of the night debut 2.0.
>>29181206Isn't she the best example of this? Literally never streamed, still got her paypigs, and left Hololive when they asked her to stream more than 10 hours a month. It's the definition of privilege
>>29180563I'm just gonna post more ... ugh... her name is Salame right?
Sorry Moona but gambling Fox autist is on Rust in telly right now, watching from one autist to anotherhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLKhm1jKrVM
>>29181289Meh I will let her have this one. Wouldn't look too good if Pekora beat Miko anni announcement
>>29180552Impressive indie number strategy. Let's see if it pans out for her.
>>29181309>Literally never streamed, still got her paypigs, andNo she didn't lol. Compare her income when she debuted until she disappeared and came back from back hort. She got significantly less and less until she put up the graduation announcement.
>>29181301There wouldn't be so many holobrony defenders if they weren't scared. They know their stars bombed and iluna is actually interesting enough to draw in a new audience
>every Luxiem is fucking European except Shu>every Tempiss is fucking Asian except Noir I always wondered why that was
>>29181326Scarle it was, found it.