/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

What sort of people will Wave 7 have if they're the Obsydia/Elthyria/Noctyx to Iluna's Lazulight/Luxiem?

Finally holosummer news
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1551507561303552000

>>29166718
>Pre-primetime /news/ update for 25-07-2022
>>29161195

Recent Clip Numbers
>>29059127
>>29059158
>>29059255
>>29059400

a feel a yab is coming

>>29166768
aia but worse

>voice packs and merch
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1551507561303552000
BRING BACK THE FUCKING 3D MODELS ALREADY

>>29166770
Hey wait a minute this is Holostars Summer not Hololive Summer...

>>29166800
Iluna already debuted late-chama

* YESTERDAY'S FINAL TALLY *

>64,102: Okayu (Hololive)
>54,267: Ema (VSPO)
>50,902: Nui (Nijisanji)
>46,884: Pekora (Hololive)
>44,106: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>43,422: Suisei (Hololive)
>42,597: Miko (Hololive)
>40,629: Leos (Nijisanji)
>34,684: Vesper (Holostars)
>34,388: Axel (Holostars)
>34,258: Subaru (Hololive)
>27,803: Magni (Holostars)
>25,806: Matsuri (Hololive)
>24,460: Ange (Nijisanji)
>22,585: Fubuki (Hololive)
>21,880: Mayuzumi (Nijisanji)
>20,725: Hal (Neo Porte)
>20,132: Vox (Nijisanji)
>19,881: Ars (Nijisanji)
>18,599: Mayuzumi (Nijisanji)
>18,480: Uki (Nijisanji)
>17,423: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>17,158: Hololive English (Hololive)
>16,754: Kobo (Hololive)
>16,499: Nose (VSPO)
>15,679: Chaika (Nijisanji)
>15,139: Noel (Hololive)
>13,925: Nagao (Nijisanji)
>13,858: Botan (Hololive)
>13,491: Met (774 Inc.)
>13,348: Koyori (Hololive)
>12,698: Vox (Nijisanji)
>12,543: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>12,467: Tachibana (VSPO)
>12,409: Iroha (Hololive)
>12,184: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>11,735: Yorumi Rena (Nijisanji)
>11,601: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>11,495: Polka (Hololive)
>11,335: Luca (Nijisanji)
>11,056: Koyori (Hololive)
>10,419: Gatchman (Indie)
>10,816: Selen (Nijisanji)

HoloKR in the works?

700 posts in two hours with zero notable streams happening, i don't know where all you faggots came from but i really wish you'd fuck off because not even turboneets have the time to keep up with this shit anymore

>>29166770
theyre turning my son roberu into a whore for profit...

>>29166800
Stop copying my post

>>29166800
>a storm a brewing anya dot png

Hololyzer caught Axel's peak.

>>29166718
ah piss

>>29166800
it already happened, anon

>>29166854
Read faster anonchama

>>29166768
The males are straight

>Mag shits on /#/
What the fuck is wrong with him?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVJtFlmgL3k&t=1677s

>>29166854
All me samefagging

>>29166770
If holosummer turns out to only be merch I will be livid.

>>29166768
Why are everybody talking about wave 7?

>>29166845
>JULY 2022 GOLDS
1) Miko (Hololive) - 43,044 - HoloCure
2) Subaru (Hololive) - 66,433 - Birthday stream
3) AZKi (Hololive) - 74,504 - 3D birthday live
4) Tsukasa (Indie) - 41,447 - Streamer league mahjong
5) Mayuzumi (Nijisanji) - 57,985 - Meschers off-collab
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - Drinking talk w/Laplus
7) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - DQ11 casino w/Noel
8) Salome (Nijisanji) - 37,023 - Unpacking
9) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 164,013 - Koshien 2022 draft
10) Shion (Hololive) - 48,313 - 1 million subs celebration totsumachi
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 61,665 - Clubhouse 51 totsu
12) Shiina (Nijisanji) - 49,387 - Niji Koshien practice
13) Pekora (Hololive) - 70,402 - Uno collab w/Marine, Botan & Polka
14) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 54,165 - Niji Koshien practice
15) Natsume (Nijisanji) - 48,192 - 3D debut
16) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 70,166 - Niji Koshien practice
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 142,833 - 3rd anniversary 3D live
18) Mel (Hololive) - 67,290 - 4th anniversary 3D live
19) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 62,890 - Niji Koshien practice
20) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 80,534 - Niji Koshien practice
21) Towa (Hololive) - 69,696 - New outfit reveal
22) Gwelu (Nijisanji) - 90,186 - 3D debut
23) Luna (Hololive) - 52,218 - New outfit reveal
24) Okayu (Hololive) - 64,102 - 3D live

>PER COMPANY
13x: Hololive
10x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie

>PER STREAMER
5x: Pekora
2x: Ibrahim, Kuzuha
1x: AZKi, Gwelu, Luna, Mayuzumi, Mel, Miko, Natsume, Nijisanji, Okayu, Salome, Shiina, Shion, Subaru, Towa, Tsukasa

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
131x: Hololive
64x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
3x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
23x: Pekora
16x: Aqua, Salome
14x: Kuzuha
13x: Miko
9x: Subaru
6x: Hal
5x: Kanata, Marine
4x: Gura, Hololive, Mio, Okayu, Suisei, Toya
3x: Chloe, Choco, Flare, Nijisanji, Towa
2x: Ange, Fuwa, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Polka
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, AZKi, Botan, Chronoir, Debi, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Laplus, Luna, Masaru, Mayuzumi, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Noel, Roboco, Rushia, Sango, Shiina, Shion, Sora, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

>4 hours and oly 60 people waiting
Why did the blue one fail?

>>29166948
it's probably 8 weeks away at most, going by their previous patterns.

>>29166948
They want to forget the shitshow called wave6

>>29166876
Holostats likewise

>>29166768
They actually good.

>>29166718

>>29166928
Extremely based

From a scale of Ethryia to Luxiem, how much of a flop is Iluna

>>29164440
> I mean, you can use Iroha's version for a fairer comparison, since Iroha mix her version herself
That's fair, but she still gets mogged for the most part, in mixing anyway : https://litter.catbox.moe/7wtg8m.mp3

>>29167017

>Cover wants to woo the EU audience
Are they retarded? They EU is one of the most low number audience you can get when it comes to vtubing.

>>29166928
He's not wrong tho
Pekora gets good number, but she doesn't make number her entire identity

wow blue homo got wrecked by zelda compared to his genmates

Why people outside always think merging male female is the way to go?
Why they think the reason Anycolor has successful males is because they didn't separate them from females?
Is this the only thing these people can come up with?

>>29167072
They will realize it once the next zelda stream starts. It is in 3.5 hours

>>29167072
who are you quoting?

>>29166800

Pekocraft in hour and a half
>PREDICTIONS?

I say it beats 45k but not 50k

>>29167072
>Better than JPStar
This is their aim anon, you have to realize that in order to make sense of their decision
Same with HoloEN back in the days

>>29166948
Because its a given if we folllow nijien pattern

>>29167101
He's also the only one that doesn't get raided

>>29167106
i just want an astel/towa/3rd member apex team. maybe a polka and roberu collab too.

>>29167132
Yeah, same 45k-50k

>>29167040
better and has more potential than lazulight ethyria and obsydia on the female side
males are in between noctyx and luxiem

>>29167132
Not really sure what this one will get. But her score to beat will be summercraft numbers which is 39k.

Is Regis going to stream for an hour again?
He needs to go longer if he wants to stick with Zelda.

>>29167132
Not beating Iluna 90k, holokek

>>29167072
What gave you that idea? They literally told ojisan alucard he wasn't allowed to stream at EU primetime unless he also streamed at 10PM PST
It's also not as bad a timeslot as you'd think if you only watch hololive, there's a decent number of indies who get good numbers and Ina used to get 10-12k every stream in EU primetime before she moved a few hours later

>>29167193
>couldn't even beat council with a massive Z
i am laffin

>>29165282
why not ojisan or oyaji?

>>29166963
Zelda giga-debuff

>>29166854
We should've told the ENtally faggot to kill himself harder and kicked out the ENshitters to their own thread, enjoy the upcoming month of non-stop arguing over two groups who will have at most 2k medians

>>29167198
Northernlion gets 10k streaming at 12pm ET every day, for example. I don't think it's a bad timeslot at all, plenty of burgers either don't work or can watch while working

>>29167193
Not beating HoloX debut number Nijinig
If you want to battle with debut number then do it right

>>29166768
With the likes of Ren Zotto and Magni we are j\heading towards low tier westerm male ecelebs, for example, boyfriends of actual ecelebs

>>29167132
pekora is a has been so i expect 30-40k

>>29167132
Minecraft is debuff now. 39k max

>>29167143
Because he's the first one to stream retard-chama

>>29167255
Come on eve kiara gets like 6k on the first part of zelda. It isn't that bad

>>29166928
from a content creator pov. Why would you want to visit /#/? One day people kneel to you calling you king or queen, only to the next day call you washed up, a failure, whore or beggar. And that's if you're successful.

>>29166876
So except for Regis they all fell to close to the same number immediately post debut regardless of debut stream numbers.

>>29167262
It's more like we don't have a holoEN streaming in EU time rn that people want to watch.
There is an audience there, Kiara just failed to capture it.

>>29167381
/hlgg/ shitting on Kiara nonstop during Noir stream was a sight to behold

>>29167355
I don't know, tell me.

After 1 month
Median ccv

Holostar 10k-15k
Iluna 2k-3k

>>29167365
Regis started first, raided Magni who gathered a crowd and then raided Axel who raided Vesper.
They were passing around the same ~10k people for 3 hours.
Good numbers, but potentially concerning when they overlap after debut buff wears off.

>>29167310
So he did worse with debut buff than Kiara 2 years in?

Out of all of these numbers the one that surprised me the most (with the debuts, Gura and Kobo being in the predicted range) was
>Morning Mio
She got herself a captive audience for that show, didn't she? Only JP 10k so far

>>29167132
Sub 30k for sure.

EU timeslot isn't that bad, there's not much holo streaming at that time so you have little competition desu.

>>29167438
Sandwiched between Gura minecraft with Kaea and NijiEN debuts

>>29167417
Sorry, I made a mistake, I meant
>Holostar 1.0k-1.5k
Missed a dot there, sorry for making it look like I was false flagging for future grudgepost

>>29167381
Moris planning on doing an EU friendly week at one point when she’s back in America next so maybe that’ll help see if there’s an EN EU audience that’s been untapped.

>>29167446

Mag > Scar wtf

>>29167193
Couldn't beat Fauna, nijikek

>>29165834
So do shitposters just grab that shinobifag post as bait or is actually him lol?

>>29167417
>implying
reaslistically
Iluna will have 8-10k while holostars will get 2-3k and will go to 3view territory the moment they collab with the females

>>29167381
Kiara streams too early most of the time. She's usually halfway into reading superchats by the time people get home and are able to watch
The only person who ever actually consistently hit EU primetime was Ina and she was getting over 10k every time, but has now moved later

even /NijiEN/ is pretending the new wave doesn't exist. what the fuck happened actually?

>>29167508
stop shitposting

Had a busy day so missed all the Iluna collabs. Were Maria's Scarle's or Ren's bad? (I know Scarle had the wifi shit, meant bad as in the content)
Don't care for the rest, those 3 were my only interests.

>>29167365
they're also got culled hard.
>Vesper got a poll 8k votes/10k ccv in 1 minute.
> Axel's ccv got below waiting room ccv.

>>29167504
Its not even bait since it has been proven from the previous waves that they always audition 2 waves at the same time

>>29167486
>maybe that’ll help see if there’s an EN EU audience
I genuinely don't think one of the most "off brand" holos is the best person to check if there is demand for the slot.
Kronii or Mumei would be a better alternative

>>29167508
>Iluna will have 8-10k
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>29167504

More clip numbers. Salome is still in first with the viral clips (h8Hjox6AqHo, +670k; x40pMtC2zEs, +250k). Pekora(4->2), Gura(7->3), Kobo(8->4) as the blue trio come up with recent clips.
Good performances by Suisei(16->8), Okayu(40->14), Ange(37->18), Vox(24->20), Noir(58->31), Chaika(89->36), Ars(54->38), Nina(73->39).
Split today is 20.6M(-460k) HL to 13.5M(+770k) NJ.

>>29167548
bunch of ESL SJW alphabet people coomers. one has actual brain damage and another is a mexiflip that will be playing nothing but otome games.

>>29167484
I could see Mag and Vesper flooring at 2k.

>>29167547
not even shitposting, both will still have some of that honeymoon buff but will eventually settle down near their normal ccv until some kobolike event happens

>>29167365
axel only got that due to being raided by magni

>>29167193

Why you lose fauna , i mean just fauna ??

>>29167508
I appreciate the optimism that you think they’re all Ina level

>>29167549
No offense anon, but you should just watch them yourself instead of asking /here/. This is like niji-anti general lmao

>>29167622
Implying that this dogshit Niji wave will have 6-10k CCV is shitposting anon

>>29166948
Because Wave 6 was a disaster and we need the next gacha.

>>29167601
Tik tok, the Nijisanji clip domination is approaching Holofags.

>>29167072
No, homos want to stream at EU times
Cover is blocking them

>>29167486
I don't think it will produce any useful data whatsoever to drop a chuuba who has streamed at 5AM and 3PM for almost two years into primetime for exactly one week
Euros have no reason to be invested in Mori because they could never watch her live before and they won't be able to watch her live afterwards

>>29167601
Graph.
Also forgot to mention, all of the iLuna members are below rank 100. This is due to low clips, and the fact that most clips involve all members, so views are split. Reactions are worse, with host distribution taking away more views.

>>29167654
holoboard. you can fuck off back to /lgbt/ if you want a hugbox and you don't like it here.

>>29167556
vesper's stream probably isn't the best example of poll cull since the whole stream revolved around chat voting on which joke is the best
also see >>29167632 for axel, it was similar to their group collab after debuts which didn't break the waiting room due to the waiting room being raided

>>29167571
Gura did EU time last year with some RDR2, got around 11~13k iirc.

>>29166854
Same, I feel like the amount of shitpost and low quality posts went up since the mag meme. Maybe we should say 'nigger' more to scare tourists

>>29167654
>being realistic means being anti-niji
rumao

>>29167132
It's that TNT competition isn't it?
I'd say 50k ceiling.

>>29167679
>homos are more retarded than cover management
dont tell me the homos post /here/ and actually believe the eurobeggar shills

>>29167508
>Iluna will have 8-10k
Not even Luxiem gets that and they have the entire Chink fujo audience on lockdown

Kek nijiEN buff after debut just 13k

>>29167755
what did council get?

>>29167706
Hence why I told him to watch it himself, fucktard

>>29167132
It can get whatever. The purpose of this stream is to farm clips

>>29166964
>JULY 2022 GOLDS
1) Miko (Hololive) - 43,044 - HoloCure
2) Subaru (Hololive) - 66,433 - Birthday stream
3) AZKi (Hololive) - 74,504 - 3D birthday live
4) Tsukasa (Indie) - 41,447 - Streamer league mahjong
5) Mayuzumi (Nijisanji) - 57,985 - Meschers off-collab
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - Drinking talk w/Laplus
7) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - DQ11 casino w/Noel
8) Salome (Nijisanji) - 37,023 - Unpacking
9) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 164,013 - Koshien 2022 draft
10) Shion (Hololive) - 48,313 - 1 million subs celebration totsumachi
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 61,665 - Clubhouse 51 totsu
12) Shiina (Nijisanji) - 49,387 - Niji Koshien practice
13) Pekora (Hololive) - 70,402 - Uno collab w/Marine, Botan & Polka
>14) Pekora (Hololive) - 52,050 - Pekorone Mario Race
15) Natsume (Nijisanji) - 48,192 - 3D debut
16) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 70,166 - Niji Koshien practice
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 142,833 - 3rd anniversary 3D live
18) Mel (Hololive) - 67,290 - 4th anniversary 3D live
19) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 62,890 - Niji Koshien practice
20) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 80,534 - Niji Koshien practice
21) Towa (Hololive) - 69,696 - New outfit reveal
22) Gwelu (Nijisanji) - 90,186 - 3D debut
23) Luna (Hololive) - 52,218 - New outfit reveal
24) Okayu (Hololive) - 64,102 - 3D live

>PER COMPANY
14x: Hololive
9x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie

>PER STREAMER
6x: Pekora
2x: Kuzuha
1x: AZKi, Gwelu, Luna, Mayuzumi, Mel, Miko, Natsume, Nijisanji, Okayu, Salome, Shiina, Shion, Subaru, Towa, Tsukasa, Ibrahim

stop being a lazy fuck and fix your shit retard

>>29167381
the other thing as well is that kiara didn't start up in the EU timeslot she only started using it when she moved back to Austria.

>>29167710
That's a CCVID style graph. Not getting back the waiting room, hard capped CCV.

>>29167622
Anon, at this moment there are only 3 streamers in that branch in the 8-10k range for their median: Luca, Mysta and Vox.

>>29167773
Kronii got 40k+ playing Frostpunk after debut. Fauna got the same with Spore I think

>>29167773
Kronii got 30k playing FrostPunk

>>29167778
Would be nice if we can get clipper number metrics from her summer craft stream and compare it to the TNT competition to see how successful it is.

>>29167739
I have a feeling that they will cannibalize lazu eth and obsyd audience and get those numbers for a while

>>29167794
no the reason it didn't get the waiting room back is because the waiting room was raided and like with most raids some people leave instead of sticking around

>>29167508
it shows the state of this board when retarded posts like this that just spam the exact same thing are kept alive but the moment you shit on them, you get banned.
fucking nijitranny jannies are ruining this site

>>29167504
>>29167595
It's how Nijisanji does shit, they shit out 2-3 waves pretty quick and then have a long lull period.

>>29167773

mag 14k

>>29167755
Only a 3k difference from StarsEN's buff LMAO

>>29167806
>>29167830

>>29167815
>>29167823
it takes 3 seconds to check

>>29167755
>comparable to StarsEN
This is grim.

>>29167847
Go look at some Niji graphs if you want to see what happens when streams get raided. That's textbook CCVID.

>>29167830
Petra will steal all their audiences and incline to a 30k streamer, finally killing Gura.

>>29167730
Since this is the numbers thread you could look at the numbers anon
Even looking solely at hololive, which is the single worst group for euro viewers, the ojisan got the same numbers in EU primetime as in the US evening, and Ina consistently got 10-12K in EU primetime

Even Holo reddit loves Magni and Vesper with so many top posts. Niji reddit seems like a wasteland after 6 debuts.

>>29166948
it's like the MCU where people only watch new movie for the aftercredits hinting towards even newer movie

>>29167878
Kronii could have been the second strongest EN but she chose depression

>>29167865
Shut up !!!!

>>29167815
>>29167878
like we have websites man

>>29167548
wut? 90% of the posts are about them
just because nijiniggers lie about shit doesn't mean we have to as well
/NijiEN/ got the exact type of people they wanted, and are celebrating it.

>>29167717
no she got 17k peak for the EU one, people where just losing interest in RDR2
>>26100729

>>29167595
If they came from the same audition as ILUNA then they are fucked.

More clip numbers, recent only (<2 Days). Other here >>29167601
Gura(5->1), Kobo(11->2), Suisei(27->3), Pekora(9->4) make a good case for the Blue Theory. Okayu(45->5) also makes a good splash, with Matsuri(17->9) being the only other top10 having gains.
Noir(20->11) also has a good run, with the clip (UyYMecGXBz0, +89k) doing the heavy lifting (Even though it mentions Mori but doesn't have her in the description).
Good runs by Ange(63->13), Botan(50->15), Kanae(41->19), Nina(56->20), Leos(258->27), Towa(40->28), Mel(62->30).
Split today is 7.8M(-720k) HL to 2.5M(+490k) NJ.

>>29167902
and Anya will steal all of Tempus viewers which will also make her incline

ANYA PETRA SUPREMACY SOON ANON

I feel so excited about HolostarsEN its feels like a brand new frontier and a new chapter in EN vtubing

>>29167603
>Vietthot falling for the inclusive meme
Like clockwork

>>29167900
you do know niji raids prove my point about some people leaving instead of sticking around

>>29167878
>it took Kronii 10 days after debut to get a lower CCV than the hours after debut stream from the new Niji
Neat

>>29167595
>Flop harder than ILuna
Heh nothing personel "livers"

>>29167973
Graph.

>>29167918
If you love reddit so much, how about you stay there?

>>29168008
>raiding his fujo audience to overwatch
what was he thinking

>>29167897
Scarle's 13k falls into the 12-15k range that Noctyx got for their debut 2.0s. When they start falling below 10k, then it's grim.
This is just StarsEN overperforming like crazy.

>>29167924
Yeah but would a non broken Kronii attract an audience as big?

>>29167973
>Gura(5->1)
Man she really just fucking scores a home run clip-wise every time she streams huh.

>>29168008
That looks nothing like the other graph anon. The Tempus one is completely flat after the usual waiting room dump, meaning it was capped.

> Numbers comparable to HoloID
> Numbers comparable to StarsEN
> Numbers comparable to fucking Stars JP
what the fuck went wrong with NijiEN?

Can't wait for Gen3 debut to be another 6h relay starting from midnight JST, that'll completely burn the general audience out

>>29168104
Try appeal to chinks and rainbowfags

>>29168104
too many debuts

Yo did holostars incline? astel now a 2k avg??

>>29168104
alphabet people happened

>>29168104
They already compete with themselves
>The new face of EN Vtubing

>>29168169
why do you guys keep saying this, one or two streams after a mayor event mean fucking nothing, wait until the charts in 2 months

>>29168094
are you being obtuse on purpose?
the waiting room was raided and after the raid the stream started, but some people who got redirected didn't want to watch the collab stream/stream they were redirected to so left around when it was starting. which resulted in the stream not recovering the waiting room peak

>>29168199
If people were capable of not wildly extrapolating the future from single data points this thread wouldn’t be a shithole

>>29168199
Sorry, we have newfags around here. They need rape correction.

>>29168169
He's literally sub-1000 this month

>>29162065
In case anyone wanted it : https://youtu.be/5xwACox-st8

>>29167847
Holy shit stop with this. Everytime this gets said it feels like it’s just trying to rewrite the events.
That waiting room was raided, but the way you and others have represented your case is that people just immediately left. That’s not true. They raided it and sat above 32k waiting room for a good 5-6 minutes. You can literally see on the graph that the stream did not start on time. Those who raided STAYED in the waiting room, they just never got accounted for after the fact.

The better argument could be that -maybe- there’s an issue involving being raided in a waiting room you already exist in. Maybe the rooms accidentally count you twice and just throw away it at the end. But it absolutely was not that people just left. You don’t stay in a waiting room for 5-6 minutes, have the stream start and then be like “ok peace”

How many MtFs will wave 7 have?

Do Nijifan even actually hyped for new waves? Like serious their model seem like it was made for ADHD zoomers who can't stick with someone for over a year and constantly need a shiny new toy to latch onto
I can't imagine being hyped for "Yayyyyyyyyyyy another gen"

>>29168199
Astel had nothing to do with holostars en, the incline is real.

>>29168083
Her chemistry with Ela is too good for their first meet up.

>>29168211
The graph is still completely flat indicating capped CCV so the better explanation is a cull. It's flat even after the dump from the waiting room so the tourists who didn't want to watch left before the graph even starts, meaning it's an irrelevant issue.

>>29167755
JESAS, they are dead in the water aren't they

So NikiEN choked first and release NijiEN6 to compete with Tempus.
I guess HoloEN3 has no competition afterall.

>>29168289
its a model that throws everything and anything on the wall to see what sticks and people finding their own favorite without the pressure of keeping up with the box

>>29167773
>what did council get?
Here are all of their streams in their first week except the debuts

>20709 :: 2021-08-23 :: 《CHIT-CHAT》- POST DEBUT Q&amp;A (Hakos Baelz) :: W9rAtIytnHk
>61433 :: 2021-08-23 :: 【COUNCIL MEETING】The Council is in SESSION! + HUGE ANNOUNCEMENTS #holoCouncil #hololiveEnglish (Hakos Baelz) :: 7S9QhFeGw60
>19249 :: 2021-08-24 :: 【Zatsudan Q&amp;A】Let&#39;s chat! #hololiveEnglish #holoCouncil (Ceres Fauna) :: x55Sskx7QCc
>10923 :: 2021-08-24 :: 【#Holoscopes】01. What bread are you? #holoCouncil #hololiveEnglish (Tsukumo Sana) :: vNQXuyUWknI
>36902 :: 2021-08-24 :: 【TWELVE MINUTES】Time Is Relative | #1 (Ouro Kronii) :: UdYwlQtCgr4
>19228 :: 2021-08-25 :: 《RAT SIMULATOR》- i am one true rat. (Hakos Baelz) :: sfxIojed54Q
>33167 :: 2021-08-25 :: 【SUPERHOT】That's Hot (Ouro Kronii) :: 6WFU2wzPKfA
>27382 :: 2021-08-25 :: 【JOURNEY】Where are we going? #holoCouncil (Nanashi Mumei) :: wNMW87foNAI
>9762 :: 2021-08-25 :: 【Celeste】BIG MOUNTAIN #holoCouncil (Tsukumo Sana) :: 32qr8wO1mV4
>22409 :: 2021-08-25 :: 【SPORE】not cursed life-simulation #hololiveEnglish #holoCouncil (Ceres Fauna) :: nQO56Kt-AUo
>14600 :: 2021-08-26 :: ≪空気読み1+2+3≫ 空気を読むネズミの子。GOOD RAT CAN READ ATMOSPHERE! (Hakos Baelz) :: olB5J4PfXuc
>20925 :: 2021-08-26 :: 【Frostpunk】Get To Work | #1 (Ouro Kronii) :: fVSA8ctBj0I
>22043 :: 2021-08-26 :: 【DON'T STARVE TOGETHER】 Surviving in the wilderness with Mumei! #hololiveEnglish #holoCouncil (Ceres Fauna) :: dqtrM2o4BnU
>9848 :: 2021-08-26 :: 【Beat the Beat: Rhythm Paradise】Idol training arc! #holoCouncil (Tsukumo Sana) :: SfZ1DxRaqnc
>13459 :: 2021-08-27 :: ≪There is No Game: WRONG DIMENSION≫ THERE IS NO GAME. DON'T WATCH THIS STREAM. (Hakos Baelz) :: pLI1zPQwpo8
>9198 :: 2021-08-27 :: 【WATCHALONG】 Interstellar (2014) with Kronini! #holoCouncil (Tsukumo Sana) :: u4nwWrLMkvg
>17744 :: 2021-08-28 :: 【ASMR】 Fauna's first ASMR stream! comfy whispers and assorted ASMR triggers #holoCouncil (Ceres Fauna) :: le9AAt8B5Gc
>8385 :: 2021-08-28 :: ≪COFFEEnCHILL≫ chit-chat time! 雑談しよう! (Hakos Baelz) :: _SVbcfcN8oo
>18353 :: 2021-08-28 :: 【Hollow Knight】Deploying The Holo Knight | #1 (Ouro Kronii) :: mBSloOzSRI4
>18982 :: 2021-08-28 :: 【CONSTRUCTION SIMULATOR 2015】What am I doing #holoCouncil (Nanashi Mumei) :: rbiOz1mPJlI
>43355 :: 2021-08-29 :: 【COUNCIL MEETING】NEW PHONE WHO DIS #holocouncil #hololiveEnglish (Ouro Kronii) :: JRclI_h2H-U
>11923 :: 2021-08-30 :: 【I Am Bread】 Empty head. Only bread. #holoCouncil (Tsukumo Sana) :: PLps9TV32H4
>11461 :: 2021-08-30 :: 【Pokemon Unite】 nontoxic MOBA gaming #holoCouncil (Ceres Fauna) :: C2R6zHNePhg
>12366 :: 2021-08-30 :: ≪COOKING SIMULATOR≫ chop chop fry fry BAM. food. (Hakos Baelz) :: C8pCAOHOokM

>>29168243
That literally happens every debut anon.
>Vtuber speaks one phrase or a language
>"OH MY GOD SHE WILL TAKE OVER THE X MARKET"
It's like debuts just gives posters extra retardation buff.

*casts a spell of yab magnetism on iluna*

>>29168344
EN3 only has Council and Myth as competition. Well, more like only Gura

>>29167924
Anon half the fault was with /vt/, not Kronii. I don’t know why this always gets memory holed but /hlgg/ and /infinity/ fucking stalked their Minecraft IP religiously. Do you not remember all the schizo shit that went on every single time someone logged in off stream? People fucking attacked her relentlessly over knowledge they shouldn’t have even had in the first place. They STALKED her and then used that against her. She didn’t want to deal with the constant barrage of people going at her throat for not streaming a game

>>29168265
It's a Nijifag who is salty over the laughable raid graphs of NijiEN and is trying to get one back by saying it's the same thing. It obviously isn't for anyone who has been here for a while.

>>29168258
He's 2k right now.

I wouldn't be surprised if HoloKR comes first before a new gen from any branch.

>>29168265
what i described makes more sense as opposed to saying they have ccvid but only on certain streams and its only them.
also, you probably are right in that its some issue with youtube having a waiting room raided.
>>29168413
retard

>>29168411
That's on her. She could have just played Minecraft on stream

>>29166852
yeah, at this point they are tasting the waters, its a matter of time

>>29168383
>Well, more like only Gura
No one is beating Gura. A measure for success would be post-incline Mumei and Fauna.

>>29168431
HokoKR is a LeGEnD

>>29168357
>10923 :: 2021-08-24 :: 【#Holoscopes】01. What bread are you? #holoCouncil #hololiveEnglish (Tsukumo Sana) :: vNQXuyUWknI
I remember how angry this stream made me. Huge waste of a first stream and basically confirmed Sana would be a numbers flop.

>>29167381
Kiara is literally anti EU chuuba because german women, yeah I know she's Austrian same shit, have reputation of being unfunny bitches here in EU. Also, majority of euros I know already watches JP on full time.

>>29168450
This might be optimism speaking, but if Cover can manage to surprise viewers with StarsEN, I don't know if they can fuck up with HoloKR.

>>29168443
victim blaming

>>29168431
Unless they had a bunch of very confused Koreans accidentally apply to the open EN and JP auditions I don't see how this would be possible

>>29168371
I believe Mori will become ;o 1 Italian VTuber

>>29168419
I don't care about one stream where he gets 2k when the vast majority of his streams this month are sub-1000

This guy already a clipper magnet, this dude going to incline hard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72mU3SRMACc

>>29167848
Nijiniggers will be the death of this hobby
Even indies will agree

>>29168486
I already knew she was gonna be a flop the moment I found out she's a nepotism hire by INa, dark skinned and Australian

>>29167710
Classic CCVID, hopefully it doesn't spread again

>>29168486
No, think about it, it's the first week of a newly debuted debut buffed chuuba and she pics this schedule

>peak :: date :: title (nameEn) :: video_id
>10923 :: 2021-08-24 :: 【#Holoscopes】01. What bread are you? #holoCouncil #hololiveEnglish (Tsukumo Sana) :: vNQXuyUWknI
>9762 :: 2021-08-25 :: 【Celeste】BIG MOUNTAIN #holoCouncil (Tsukumo Sana) :: 32qr8wO1mV4
>9848 :: 2021-08-26 :: 【Beat the Beat: Rhythm Paradise】Idol training arc! #holoCouncil (Tsukumo Sana) :: SfZ1DxRaqnc
>9198 :: 2021-08-27 :: 【WATCHALONG】 Interstellar (2014) with Kronini! #holoCouncil (Tsukumo Sana) :: u4nwWrLMkvg
>11923 :: 2021-08-30 :: 【I Am Bread】 Empty head. Only bread. #holoCouncil (Tsukumo Sana) :: PLps9TV32H4
>5957 :: 2021-08-31 :: 【SOMA】 oh no #holoCouncil (Tsukumo Sana) :: 64CdwsrmID0

It doesn't take a numberfag to be angry at it

>>29168535
arupapa.........................

>>29168550
I really finding it appealing to watch a bubbling oji san like me pretending to be a anime guy while never being able to shake off being a oji

I feel like history repeats too much around Hololive's prediction.

>HoloEN won't be successful
They found success
>HoloID won't incline
Kobo and HoloFes3 happened
>StarsEN is DOA
Magni and Vesper appear out of nowhere

So what's next?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiR0cnQXY7I
60k?

>>29168565
>Haha take THAT numberfags! I'm debuffing myself ON PURPOSE
>*10 months later*
>Guys...I'm graduating because I can't do my job
Oh the schadenfreude

>>29168473
Salami beat Gura. It's super hard but not impossible.

>>29168431
its over bros... we cant beat isedol...

>>29168514
I mean there is clear an audience there, at least they can't do worst than niji KR

>>29168632
>80% decline in viewership in 6 weeks
ngmi

>>29168440
>what i described makes more sense
Are the people who get sit on the waiting screen for 5 minutes then close the tab the instant the stream starts the same ones who watched precisely 30 seconds of every stream, dropped a like, then closed the tab during CCVID

>>29168622
40k-50k is my guess.

>>29168634
thats an incredibly shit retention

>>29168634
just buy isedol and rebranch it like holo kr

TOP KEK, Korone median of peaks this month is
>22356
for 11 streams. Korone, like Fubuki, sometimes decide to show their real power level and step outside the gravity chamber to show the audience what they've got

Right now, with 5 or more streams, there are only six streams on Hololive that are above 20k
>Pekora
>Marine
>Miko
>Suisei
>Subaru
>Korone
and
>Gura

On the NIji side there are three
>Salome
>Toya
>Kuzuha

>>29168679
Historically JP corpos buying out an existing Korean org has not gone very well

>>29167132
sub 38k. I cannot give it any higher.

>>29168565
What's worse is that this last slew of streams showed that she COULD have made some decent content if she actually tried.

>>29168719
That's too high anon. That's a sub 30k stream.

>>29168711
Another thing that's surprising as fuck: Flare median so far in the month, with 10094 with 17 streams

ANON OF THE TALLIES STATUS

> [] COMFY AND DOING THE TALLIES
> [] BTFO
> [x] MALDING, BALDING, COPING, SEETHING AND MINING HIS UNDERGROUND CAVE

>>29168374
NijiEN doesn't need your magic to achieve this Watamage

>>29168711
Reminder that even if Pekora get 1 view for every July stream after her anni her median would still be above 30k

>>29168526
I agree that it's victim blaming but anon has kind of a point. Seriously, you had to be there to see it.
EVERY TIME every other girl was playing Minecraft Kronii was online. Meanwhile, she was barely streaming or streaming debuffs, that was dumb af. My personal rrat is that she got depressed during her Minecraft addiction, not after it.

>>29168787
Jesust.

>>29168357
>Sana got the first three sub 10k until Bae got the fourth one
Checks out

>>29168794
She literally went menhera over people doxxing her bunker location

>>29168672
so you're saying they have ccvid but only for those two streams that have the common factor of being raided and being different enough to the stream, they were redirected from to not be interested in.
like you said it sat at 32k during the waiting room so it is likely the case that youtube still counts the full raid even if people have left, or the refresh time youtube uses for people redirected to a waiting room is slower

>>29168718
if you are talking about niji kr the problem wasnt that they bought an already existent chuuba group, the problem was that they let the same retarded management

>>29168083
Gura is too easy to clip

>>29168794
Still better than makes her freak out and not even playing for a long time.
I do buy your depression rrat though.

>>29168794
>EVERY TIME every other girl was playing Minecraft Kronii was online
wasnt that because she wanted to improve her bunkers security due to everyone trying to break in?

>>29168794
Have you seen her schedule this week? lmao she's trying to force herself to be sub-10k this month with these stream choices.

>>29168778
You can hear the painkillers in her voice dude

>>29168169
It's a collab with some big apex player

Miko is using the nyahello nyahello minecraft BGM. Things seem safe for now.

>>29168781
10k elves watching you is worth like 5 dwarves

>>29167815
>Kronii got 40k+ playing Frostpunk
Oh shit Cover has the permission for that game? Why don't other holos play it? It is fucking kino and it is the most stream friendly civ4xg because you can actually finish 1 map in a stream.

>>29168787
kek, she's way stronger than that now. She could do 2 streams per day to 1 view each from today to the 31st and her median of the month would be
>38502

For reference, Salome's median right now is
>38316

>>29168411
>Be a lazy whore who posts this schedule
>Play hours and hours of Minecraft offstream
>It's /vt/'s fault!
Could you be a bigger cuck? You're blaming the people who exposed Kronii for half assing her job instead of Kronii herself for delivering almost zero content while she plays 12 hours of Minecraft a day offstream? Neck yourself

>>29168711
Imagine if Aqua streamed. That's another 20k streamer

>>29168083
She has experience during her horse years

>>29168874
It was meant to be broken into anyways. If Kronii truly wanted her bunker to be impenetrable by the other EN members, she's fucking retarded.

>>29168911
kronii has amazing tits

>>29168781
kek

>>29168886
>Things seem safe for now
?

stop talking about blue women

>>29168781
isn't like half of hololive 10k median streamers now, it's just that some of them don't appear on the charts because they barely stream

>>29168896
Coma-chama, Kronii did 6 streams of it and it was awful for her numbers.

>>29168938
stop talking about blue women it's making my dick hard*
Ftfy

>>29168968
blue women arent sexy though?

>>29168852
Unless waiting room numbers go down slower than they go up for some reason, it's not that
I would want to see another stream of his before I draw any conclusions though because the game he picked is absolute ass to watch and I'd leave if I got raided to it

>>29168877
I know, which is what makes it all the sadder. She's nothing but wasted potential: some of it self inflicted, some of it out of her control.

>>29168934
Some people can't read kanji and think Miko is going to announce her graduation

>>29168711
What about maturi?

>>29168839
Genuine question, are we agreeing? Was that anon refering to vt when he said "victim blaming"?
Did I just have a massive brain fart or what?

>>29168925
Shame she hates them more than Mori hates hers.

>>29168983
faggot

Enough about 20k+ chuubas, how many sub 3ks does niji have?

>>29168711
Korone 2020 median ah ah ah ah ah

>>29169041
>perkora
>gura
>lamy
>kronii
none of them are sexy and most of them are gonna become cat ladies in the future

>>29168950
>isn't like half of hololive 10k median streamers now
Hah, that's crazy talk, there is no way half of HoloJP + HoloEN would be over 10k this month.

Let me count
>over 10k: 20 channels
>under 10k: 20 channels

No, wait a minute, let me count again
>over 10k: 20 channels
>under 10k: 20 channels

WTF?

>>29168616
Cover will never invest into Europe

>>29169061
Over 100 for sure.

>>29169025
matuli's median this month is 8478 with 17 streams, which is actually wild because either last month or the one previous she was literally bottom of the branch

Miko talking about Okakoro, SubaLuna and FubuMio. Hopefully this is not about PekoMiko

>>29168794
Kronii had some really depressing period at first, which i guess are from RL situation. She's getting better now, much better, some fall back but better. Her depression gut out one of the best duo stream in Holo and the best in EN imo Kromei, which is fucking suck. After that they only have like 2 1-1 collab with each other.

>>29169080
To be fair Pekora is already a cat lady.

>>29169061
enough to feed small family

>>29168983
Iluna is a safe space for you anon

>>29169025
isnt festival slowly coming back to the box?

It's odd to me that Council is still considered a flop when it's overall a stronger generation than Myth is at this point. Everyone in Myth has either heavily reclined or is stagnant as Gura continues to carry the gen into relevancy, while Council has serious incline with Fauna and Mumei (and Kronii when she isn't being a menhera).

>>29169025
8544 median so far

>>29169092
I have 16, any of the sites tracked her unlisted stream?

Did I hear blue supremacy?

>>29169081

>>29169080
For Abe-sama who is in heavenI will save their eggs.

>>29168967
Fuck. Why can't people appreciate a civ4xg? Civ4xg is comfy as fuck. I am not asking the streamers to stream fucking Stellaris. It is just frostpunk. Fucking frostpunk. Even ADHD infected zoomers has enough attention spam for that game right?

>>29168289
Nijifans are threadreaders so they're fine with getting 'shiny new gacha' to "pull" where they can see fanart, write fanfiction etc.

>>29166854
I have to catch up three threads like that a day whenever I go to sleep, it's not much to read, "turboneet"...

>>29169094
>Kromei
What happened to it? People still ships that hard

>>29169124
dunno, took it from vstats, they have them on the summaries at the top if you click on the months in their profiles

>>29168616
>StarsEN
>successful
I mean getting a consistent 1-2k ccv a month from now would be a success for stars but thats shit for numbers in general

>>29168711
Is Korone the main commander for the 2nd army the same way that Botan is the top of the Holo mid tiers?

>>29169121
Myth has Ina and Gura which is still miles stronger than Council.

>>29169084
No, this one is accurate
They literally forbade the homos from streaming in EU hours and their official store doesn't ship to Europe despite using a German shipping company (but does ship to Argentina, perhaps they fell for the ARS memes)

>>29167878
Why is every single one of EN trying to sabotage their own numbers? If they don't want to stream they might as well not apply for holoEN?

>>29169196
Korone is the shock troop of hololive

>>29169084
Management is forbidding them from streaming in primetime EU hours since EU is a dead market

>>29169226
The chinman just stream in EU hours yesterday??

>>29169195
please don't insult nijisanji indirectly

>>29167622
>kobolike event happens
mfs always try to downplay Kobo's incline as luck, no it's for the most part because of her personality.
If any of that new vtubers get some lucky events, there's no guarantee that they will incline without stopping like Kobo. I'm certain that it won't unless they have an exceptional personality.
At most they will become like Ollie, debuted at the luckiest moment for HoloID, incline hard, and then becoming irrelevant after half a year, because her personality can't back her popular phase.

>>29169196
i love korosan but she's too unreliable, she can sometimes go weeks just streaming bullshit debuffing herself

>>29169292
On condition he stream at 10PM PST too

Is 4chan good now? It was kinda down last night

>>29169220
I remember when Mori used to be a part of those numbers until she did everything in her power to debuff herself into irrelevancy.

>>29169245
EN is a whole different game when you want to play numbers there
Usual jp tactics dont work and the only way to get numbers is being a dramafag

If NijiEN continues to poach popular creators with over 100k subs, the future of Hololive scouting looks rather grim.

>>29167132
61k. Trust in the bum bum cha.

>Migo without overlap
She's really strong

>>29169292
Yeah under the condition that he will still stream in 10pm PST

>>29169094
I hope Kronii didn't Reckful'd herself.

>>29169292
Yes, and he said during that stream that management wouldn't let him do it unless he also streamed at 10PM PST

>>29169293
It's literally only a dead market for hololive and that's because they don't fucking engage with it at all

>>29169180
nothing happened, they even did kronmei fanfic reading stream recently, but anon doesnt watch streams

migoti 40k

>>29169333
Or be a pro at a popular game. But then you'll only be streaming that game.

>>29169314
>mfs always try to downplay Kobo's incline as luck, no it's for the most part because of her personality.
she would have gotten an incline yeah but that event propelled her to the stars in the ID market and youre retarded if you think that she would have gotten the same numbers without it

btw, miko's stream is just a qna, she's just answering random shit and the announcement will be 50 mins in

>>29169335
Hololive scouting thrives on 2views though.

>>29169367
She's just talking. Sasuga heart of Holobox

>>29169359
It's more that they want to try out this schedule of having them all do 4 one hour streams in a row in prime time NA

>>29169367
>big announcement
Aren't those always bait and seldom amount to something meaningful?

>>29169335
kek, I say between the reception of Tempus by the Holo community and the reception of iluna by the Niji community, I doubt Niji will make "subs in the PL" a requirement ever again

>>29169388
>Or be a pro at a popular game
Only works on fleshtubers
EN market is a whole different beast when it comes to numbers

>>29169388
That's why NijiEN engages in drama meta, because they know where the numbers are.
I like this move because they're brave enough to do it, unlike the cookie-cutter boring ass HoloEN.

Who are the gold contenders for today?

>>29169388
Tying your career to a specific video game is a disaster waiting to happen
Look at all the huge Overwatch streamers who had to pivot to variety streams or die

>>29169342
I mean she did get 40k while streaming at the same time as peko and suisei right.

>>29169333
>the only way to get numbers is being a dramafag
So basically be like twitch streamers?

>>29169459
Just the debut that Z'd right now.

>>29169359
>It's literally only a dead market for hololive and that's because they don't fucking engage with it at all
Kiara did and it got shit numbers
EU is dead central for vtubing, hell they dont even have a decent vtubing scene there compared to the rest of the world

>>29169459
no horse race tonight. podium is already filled.

>>29169459
ILuna debut already took it
Though if you want to see numbers, there's Pekora tonight if you want to see how much her fan contest can pull

>>29169459
We already have winner for this day anon. No contender today.

>>29167407
>hlgg/ shitting on Kiara nonstop during Noir stream
nice fanfic you have going on here

>>29169080
just say you're gay from the start next time

>>29169444
>Only works on fleshtubers
It work for nip vtubers as well.

When you look at the male indies that get any number, they're always single focused on FPS, Genshin, Phasmo, Mahjong or other speciality.
For the indie girls, it would be ASMR instead, also single focused

>>29169482
Fuck i totally forgot about those kek

>>29169459
Dont think anyone is matching Ren's Z peak of 90k or even his normal peak of 80k.

>>29169442
The Holo community absolutely despise Tempus while Niji community embraces Ilina. What the fuck are you on?

>>29169180
Kronii lack of stream gut out their 1-1 interaction for a long while, a very long while. After their Minecraft collab, they only had a 1 on 1 in a JK open VC stream months later. Then with Kronii getting better nowadays, it's SNOT's turn take over her priority. Ngl it's bring tear to my eyes when i see that fanfiction review thumbnail.

>>29169435
Probably just birthday announcement

>>29169388
Thats a disaster waiting to happen like with all those fortnite and minecraft streamers
Drama is the only consistent buff in the EN sphere

>>29168565
The fucking watchalong for the first week was so stupid
How the fuck did the management approve that

>Yagoo interacting with StarsEN harder than any other gen, even OG Stars
Man he must be so fucking happy right now that his pet project finally succeeded.

>>29169333
nah graduation is the new meta. you shit out a new gen every 2-3 weeks and graduate 4-5 talents a month. guaranteed views

>>29169507
>We already have winner for this day anon. No contender today.
The only thing that could challenge that Z would be a King Koshien going to the 12th inning with a 20k Z at the peak of the regular number

>>29169444
There hasn't really been any eu vtuber pro gamer as far as I know. But that would be such a unique niche. I'm talking like top 100-500 player in your game of choice.

>>29169535
Ninja. . . .

>>29169514
>It work for nip vtubers as well.
Thats why i said that EN market is a different beast compared to the jp market
What works in jp doesnt usually work in en

>>29169502
>>29169504
>>29169507
>>29169522
I genuinely forgot the debut happened

>>29169523
You better to check the local library anon, I think you come from the Bernstein bears universe.

>>29169559
kamon, king. do it.

>>29169523
You spamming "wrong thread" in /hlgg/ to force a split doesn't say anything about the Holo community. Fucking hilarious that /MANS/ is racing past /hlgg/ during Mori/Ame streams though.

>>29169547
Holokeks see that as a success?

>>29168911
>2 hours of Minecraft a day
She could have been Kaela but with an additional 20k CCV

>>29169476
nope
content creators is what your looking for since were discussing yt numbers

>>29169591
I could see an indie or a group of indies thriving on some hyper focused niches, like Rust, Minecraft or similar time sinks.
Competition with established meatspace streamers make that difficult in the west, yeah

>>29169494
Kiara doesn't stream at EU primetime, she streams at 4PM CET most days
The only holo to ever stream at EU primetime was Ina, who got 10-15k every time
This has been said a million times

Does pekora have any sub 30k stream this month?

>>29169678
First monster hunter and that horror game.

>>29169649
Minecraft in particular would be hard to carve out a niche in thanks to things like hermitcraft.

>>29169630
Holofags will defend Yagoo to thr death even though he actively uses company funds on hisnpersonal shit. I don't get why he has such a cult behind him.

>>29169547
>his pet project finally succeeded.
We will see in a month. Magni is promising though with the art stream. To be honest I feel a lot of dead air during their streams. Yes even the ojisan Noir has serious amount of dead air, even though EN-only watcher trying to tell me otherwise.

How long until Riku announce new wave??

https://youtu.be/laauaued0Cc
Hey fags! Watch my cute sister wife being cute

>>29169632
Ehh i doubt she'll be a 20k mc streamer. I can easily see 15k-18k though.

>>29169711
6-8 weeks

>>29169701
Proof next thread?

>>29169547
Cuz StarEN isn't in Japan anon. So the only interaction he had are though text message and
maybe voice chat. JPStar can meet him face to face everyday.

>>29169694
>this month

>>29169711
Next week

>>29169701
To be fair StarsJP is a success too compared to all the 2views and long dead companies like upd8. I think Aruran can pay his rent now.

Hmm miko freetalk is 44k now
Is it because rust yesterday?

>>29169708
Kek, deflecting now are we?

>>29169678
Every sream of pekora is sub 30k anon.

>>29169711
Next time the stock takes a tumble.

elite miko 45p getto

>>29169649
there was one png group that was posted a few months ago in indie if i recall correctly
group focused in minecraft but disbanded after peaking at 100 viewers and slowly reclining from there
they became 5-10 ccv streamers before calling it quits

>>29169772
It's marshmallow qna with announcement.

>>29169772
No, she's making an announcement.

>>29169772
it's a marshmallow, and there's a "serious announcement" at min 50

Why do you all care about numbers?

>>29169771
I am genuinely offering my opinion. I think StarsEN will have more viewers than JP, based just on the fact that I can tolerate male vtubers more when they speak in English. However they really need to step up their streaming game. Less dead air is the first hurdle for them.

>>29169772
Literally she's the only one streaming + announcement buff

>>29169711
september

Holy shit the ILuna debuts were a fucking disaster.

>>29169844
I gotta watch something when the stock market is on cool down.

>>29169711
tomorrow

>>29169844
Why do (You) care about us caring for numbers?

>>29169766
Aruran has moved to a much better house now.

>>29169844
Why don't you? Also why would you post in this thread if you don't?

It's unfair that Miko and and Pekora can pull 40K out of their asses while the rest of holo barely can past 20k and sub 10K shitter

>>29169844
because it's fun to follow the progress of both your oshi and the industtry.

>>29169844
Why do you care about why we care about numbers to the point you feel the need to ask about it?

>>29169844
I actually done really care about numbers, this is just the closest thing to a unity thread on this Holoboard.

>>29169445
if i wanted to watch EN drama i'd just go to LSF
and your troons aren't even popular enough to get on there too
Hasan would disown these fake ass SJW panderers in a heartbeat

>>29169844
i have a terminal disease called insecurity that won't let me enjoy things unless i have a verifiable measure that tells me other people are also enjoying it, and no amount of people asking me but why will fix it

Compared to other CEOs, Yagoo seems like a joke. I mean, he has a high position in a company but fucking spam "I'm magging" is just embarrassing.

>miko 45k

>>29169844
because they want to shit on nijisanji even though they dont realize that niji focuses more on quality than quantity

>>29169905
Damn. Good for him. Thank god he didn't quit.

>>29169909
It's more unfair that 100 out of 100+ nijis are below 5k shitters

>>29169909
FIRST ARMY. I'm still disappointed that these two never made up and coordinate their streams just like what Pekora does for gen 3. They could've been a beast in metrics if they just avoid overlapping each other.

>>29169772
Leeching whore has the slot for herself+ she baits with an announcement Hopefully it's temporary graduation or at the very least a one month of rest

>>29169934
Better than Riku who sells his own merch.

>>29169854
you don't know what dead air means

>>29169930
Hasan watches nijisanji though

>>29169938
This is extremely poor quality bait anon, please try harder

>>29169854
Compared to Luxiem, Tempus are much better talkers already.

>>29168786
true, but imagine stacking debuffs

There are some baits that are so obvious but delicious that sometimes I just want to take them. But not today.

>>29169993
Kek

>>29169226
Are there even other chuubas who stream at EU primetime? Ina stream kinda late and the two UK faggots doesn't even stream at EU primetime because they know the numbers aren't there. EU is dead market.

>>29169930
kek, lsf is built around the idea of hating anything that didn't originate on twitch. And that's not even mentioning the hatred they have for weebs, animu and vtubers.