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>>29135288*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*>https://playboard.co/en/>http://ikioi-ranking.com/>https://vrabi.ml/>https://www.vstats.jp>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-rankingHololive sites>https://holo.poi.cat/>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html>https://trackholo.live/en/Nijisanji sites>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly>https://twitter.com/2434rankings>https://twitter.com/2434subscriberTwitch>https://sullygnome.com/>https://twitchtracker.com/>https://stats.roki.sh/Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp
>anons label her the gura killer>this shit happensYou guys are monsters. I hope you're happy.
Still hasnt recovered. An absolute diaster
>>29134916I honestly hope they eventually rectify this mistake by rolling her into Council officially one day. Her redesign (if it's actually coming) would be perfect timing for it, too.
Whore.
OK everyone, remember. Post good.
Jesus christ just nuke that shithole country already.Fucking ruin niji's debut's record.
the entire nijiEN thread is on unironic suicide watch
>>29135389deserved for streaming on wi-fi
*casts a spell of misfortune on Iluna*
blue boy 4600 bleeding out slowly... no...
>>29135381MISSION SUCCESS
This wave is a tragedy
Okay honestly this is sad, I wanted them to challenge for Sana debut at least.
>>29135394It's funny now the fan have to pressure Cover into remaking their gen
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *>64,102: Okayu (Hololive)>54,267: Ema (VSPO)>50,902: Nui (Nijisanji)>46,884: Pekora (Hololive)>44,106: Sasaki (Nijisanji)>43,422: Suisei (Hololive)>42,597: Miko (Hololive)>40,629: Leos (Nijisanji)>34,684: Vesper (Holostars)>34,388: Axel (Holostars)>34,258: Subaru (Hololive)>27,803: Magni (Holostars)>25,806: Matsuri (Hololive)>24,460: Ange (Nijisanji)>22,585: Fubuki (Hololive)>21,880: Mayuzumi (Nijisanji)>20,725: Hal (Neo Porte)>20,132: Vox (Nijisanji)>19,881: Ars (Nijisanji)>18,599: Mayuzumi (Nijisanji)>18,480: Uki (Nijisanji)>17,423: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>17,158: Hololive English (Hololive)>16,754: Kobo (Hololive)>16,499: Nose (VSPO)>15,679: Chaika (Nijisanji)>15,139: Noel (Hololive)>13,925: Nagao (Nijisanji)>13,858: Botan (Hololive)>13,491: Met (774 Inc.)>13,348: Koyori (Hololive)>12,698: Vox (Nijisanji)>12,543: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>12,467: Tachibana (VSPO)>12,409: Iroha (Hololive)>12,184: Mysta (Nijisanji)>11,735: Yorumi Rena (Nijisanji)>11,601: Kanae (Nijisanji)>11,495: Polka (Hololive)>11,335: Luca (Nijisanji)>11,056: Koyori (Hololive)>10,419: Gatchman (Indie)>10,816: Selen (Nijisanji)
>>29135070She will kill gura by keep her house clean
>outright whoring her chest sizeI'm glad Holo and Nijis are so different. It's good to have an alternative option when I need a quick dirty fap.
I can't wait for all the asterisks this will result in in all future discussions of this wave's debut numbers.
Why did you holofags do this to us >>29133237
>The most hyped one is ruining the numbers of her predecessorsPOTTERY
>>29135493I kneel Watamage
>>29132854Gura likes to build shit, she just sucks at it and gives up when shit starts hurting her brain
>>29135381Good job fellow hexers
>>29135522What is her number?
>>29135594SASUGA WATAMAGE
>>29135394As long as she's getting her orisongs fully funded by Cover, she's tied to prioritize those first over streaming. Nothing to be done about that, even if they pretty much just unofficially roll her into council as a group of 5 to fill Sana's spot.
What was that quote again about tech being in shambles"?
Cute whistles.
>>29135381
>>29135541>JULY 2022 GOLDS1) Miko (Hololive) - 43,044 - HoloCure2) Subaru (Hololive) - 66,433 - Birthday stream3) AZKi (Hololive) - 74,504 - 3D birthday live4) Tsukasa (Indie) - 41,447 - Streamer league mahjong5) Mayuzumi (Nijisanji) - 57,985 - Meschers off-collab6) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - Drinking talk w/Laplus7) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - DQ11 casino w/Noel8) Salome (Nijisanji) - 37,023 - Unpacking9) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 164,013 - Koshien 2022 draft10) Shion (Hololive) - 48,313 - 1 million subs celebration totsumachi11) Pekora (Hololive) - 61,665 - Clubhouse 51 totsu12) Shiina (Nijisanji) - 49,387 - Niji Koshien practice13) Pekora (Hololive) - 70,402 - Uno collab w/Marine, Botan & Polka14) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 54,165 - Niji Koshien practice15) Natsume (Nijisanji) - 48,192 - 3D debut16) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 70,166 - Niji Koshien practice17) Pekora (Hololive) - 142,833 - 3rd anniversary 3D live18) Mel (Hololive) - 67,290 - 4th anniversary 3D live19) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 62,890 - Niji Koshien practice20) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 80,534 - Niji Koshien practice21) Towa (Hololive) - 69,696 - New outfit reveal22) Gwelu (Nijisanji) - 90,186 - 3D debut23) Luna (Hololive) - 52,218 - New outfit reveal24) Okayu (Hololive) - 64,102 - 3D live>PER COMPANY13x: Hololive10x: Nijisanji1x: Indie>PER STREAMER5x: Pekora2x: Ibrahim, Kuzuha1x: AZKi, Gwelu, Luna, Mayuzumi, Mel, Miko, Natsume, Nijisanji, Okayu, Salome, Shiina, Shion, Subaru, Towa, Tsukasa>2022 GOLDS>PER COMPANY131x: Hololive64x: Nijisanji6x: Neo Porte3x: Indie1x: Kizuna AI Inc.>PER STREAMER23x: Pekora16x: Aqua, Salome14x: Kuzuha13x: Miko9x: Subaru6x: Hal5x: Kanata, Marine4x: Gura, Hololive, Mio, Okayu, Suisei, Toya3x: Chloe, Choco, Flare, Nijisanji, Towa2x: Ange, Fuwa, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Polka1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, AZKi, Botan, Chronoir, Debi, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Laplus, Luna, Masaru, Mayuzumi, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Noel, Roboco, Rushia, Sango, Shiina, Shion, Sora, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta
Whats even worse, is that the Niji watchalong didnt incline at all. Its as if those 20/30k "people" suddenly vanished
>>29135381Again, Nijishills started it long before any of us did.
Good work on the DDoS, we got 'em
>>2913561185kIt would have happened without this lag issue I think.
Now I noticed that all nijiEN debuts have someone that fucks it upFinanaYugo Latina
Post your face when you realize all these Nijis will shoot past 100k, denying them a celebration stream
>>29135389even streamlink cannot connect to this lag af stream, I'm out
>>29133078>>29132469Yes? Just like how Holo's Gen 4+'s numbers absolutely dwarfed Gen 1 & 2's. It'd be dumb to judge Iluna members with previous waves' standards. The important matter is that the foundation is set. Public has shown a lot of interests in them - what previous waves couldn't get. On the other hand, Holo's new debuts, well, didn't receive as much. There are only so many viewers in EN market, my friends (and it's middle of NA hours, early morning in Asian so you can't even use the CN + TW + SEA cope either)
Niji tech in shambles. Hololive thriving!
the only one who is bearable so far even with lag
>>29135611Sana was at 85k.It was a set of scuffed debuts too that got rescheduled by one day due to Fauna? having tech issues and they weren't sure if she'd be ready so they delayed the debuts and fucked the numbers up a bit.
>>29135571My sides
Count my breasticles anon
>>2913561150k now
>>29135554>Latino maid that would suck your dick for extra 100I can finally fullfill my fantasy bro..
>>29135787"Tourist" behaviour, am I right?
Wait, why is everyone down on the new Niji gen? These guys and gals are going to change the world of vtubing. Their combined watchalong-debut tier CCV means that they absolutely must be, at minimum, a Myth-tier gen. Probably even bigger.
>>29135787did they debut all the boys?
>>29135571Ceramic!
>>29135468
>>29135600That's when NPC come in , if she can recruited kaela to help ger gathering stuff in EN sv. then she can build whatever she want.
Oh jesus, Moona has an autistic Mumbo Jumbo storage/sorting system.I wonder what sort of rates it gets.
>>29135825MAGGED
I'm just gonna watch it later when there's no lag, I can't handle this scuff
>>29135771Superiority? Gura is literally kneeling to Kaela right now
>>29135913>LatinoA mexiflip larper is NOT a latina.
>>29135839>conveniently ignore gen 3Tourist-chama...
>>29135966yeah to eat her out
>>29135913Millie would do it for free, why pay for the equivalent of town bicycle?
>>29135922AhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHATell me more jokes anon.
>>29135785> koshien month> nijisanji is losingSo 2022 is the year when Nijisanji can't even win a single month?
>>29135703
>>29135839
>>29135502He's been going between 4500 - 5000.
>>29135825Since when did that stop Niji? They will just do catch-up celebrate streams like Luxiem did
>>29135922nice one anon
sub 1k by the end of the week
>>29135703God I want to breed this woman so hard she would forget about all the politics bullshit and just think about my microdick.
>>29136006I dont think latin viewers would be proud and rally behind a mexiflip
>>29135787this is why we don't do 'total ccv' susan, can't be trusted.
When is Scarle going to do a Pagpag Taco eating ASMR stream?
>>29136006>Latino + tagalogLatilog
Lost 25k "people"
>lagging>20k viewers just went awayWhy?
>>29135839Are you chinese?
>>29135913She's not an actual latina, she probably has a bit of Mexican heritage and decided to lean into it for niji
>>29136106They couldn't win a single month in 2021 either. We went back and checked the numbers, they lost every month that year including Koshien month
Is a slight bit of lag seriously enough to make 20k to 30k people tune out and never tune back in? I don't understand this.
>>29136147Give me that, these debuts....I need an extra strong dose.
>>29135922C'mon, say the word one more timeI know you want to
>>29136175Well every gen needs a Kiara or Bae.
>>29136290Tourists
>>29135966More like moona
>>29135922You know who else have these debut number? Council
>>29135787where did they go
>streaming on wifiwhat the fuck is wrong with these people
>>29136290they had to restart the bot first
LITERALLY NONE OF THESE GAMES ARE REAL, LADY
>Listing all the fujo shitnice wave nijikeks
>>29135922This, but unironically. Their numbers are at least on par with IRyS + Council, if not better. The fact that both their males and females got good debut numbers showed that the interest was increased across the board, not just among female fans
>>29136318No, but it might be enough to mess up bots.
>>29136290>>29136318Botting.
>>291359221mil subs each in a month! Nijidomination!!
>>29136290they are still there, they just aren't counted because youtube verification stuff
>>29135502He'll likely bleed more once the debut stream for the guy starts
>>29135839> Holo's new debuts, well, didn't receive as muchThe fuck are you talking about, each Holo debut has only gone higher and higher. Or are you being a retard about holostars?
>>29136078>imagine kaela lifting gura up in the air batista bomp style and ate her cunny out then drop her down to her strap on
AHAHAHAHAHAHA NIJISISTERS WHAT HAPPENED
>>29135839You're absolutely right, of course. Well written and considered. These streamers are guaranteed successes. Frankly, they're going to smoke Council in all numerical metrics. Take that to Wells Fargo, put it in your savings account, and bank on it because these talents are going to return dividends. Big dividends.
>>29136290Bots need to be reconnected manually
>>29136175>debuff game>heavy overlapwell, he would do better with buff contents like zatsudan. girls like it.
>>29136290>>29136318Bots don't refresh
>>29136315No, that's wrong.They did win, someone fucked up their counts when they 'went back to check', accounting for indie wins and one day being off, Niji DID win August. This shit is why the loss of vnuma was so bad, and I'm glad we now have MULTIPLE sites to keep track of daily numbers so we don't have these issues in the future.
Is all that shit she's listing fujo stuff?
Anya is going to flatten every one of these trannies.
>>29135288Final /news/ roundup for 24-07-2022>>29076596Recent Clip Numbers>>29059127 >>29059158 >>29059255 >>29059400
>>29135839>Holo's new debuts, well, didn't receive as muchAll of council was higher than Myth and this wave of Niji, all of HoloX was was higher than gen 5.
>mexiflipimagine the brown
the next dude is gonna hate her forever for killing the momentum wew
>>29136175That's actually really good considering he's going against Gura and the Niji debuts.
>>29136322Here ye go nijibro
The tip of my sopa de macaco finger is more Latino than this burger mexiflip
IT JUST KEEPS HAPPENING
>pretends to be dommy mommy>is actually a fujo with low standards for anime boyslol, lmao even
LOL BOTS confirmed?exposed kek
>>29136688Next dude has 2m subs so no worry
Ren.....please save the numbers
>>29136688You mean throwing off the bot viewership
>>29136589Stop trying to revise history. We went over this twice, Nijisanji DID NOT win august last year
>>29136534Stop shitposting.
Holy shit it keeps dropping. Hopefully she can hold 40k?
>>29135571MOST POWERFUL THREAD
>>29136318They can't reload the bots probably. Every lag wave kill another handful of them. Same reason they didn't raid.
>>29136621Yayoi gal, i kneel!
>45kSTANDING ON THE EDGE OF THE CRATER
>>29136589>>29136106Ok you idiots, post both tally so it can be compared
Still zero recovery, on a downward trend though. Gura with Kaela are still slowly inclining. Blue homo is steady at 5k
She is full fujo, she's going to be like Nina big numbers with the Bois but low numbers alone
>>29136147Keep coping. Just watch and compare their debut week(s) with StarsEN's, or even IRyS + Council's if you wish. Their debut week(s) should be doing as well as HoloEN's.>>29136297No? Why did you even think so? Chinks are likely at work / school right now
This bitch is dead in the water.
Uh why didn't Scarle's viewers come back
>>29136702Perfect*CHUGS*Goddamnit, all this crap, I don't know what I expected but my enthusiasm has been crunched, that's for sure.
How has NijiENs picks gotten worse and worse and worse? They couldn't have gotten more than like 40 applicants for the first Lazulight/Obsydia interviews and have gotten many many thousands for iLuna. How could they pick such insane trash from so many applicants?
HALF WHAT AND WHAT?!?
>>29136817The Bots lagged out. Unironically they were desynched. Fucking open your eyes
>>29135571WATAMAGE FUCKED THE NIJINIGGERS
>>29136732Classic future single mother behavior
>>29136718You forgot this one bro
>>29136688He probably has his own dedicated bot set so he won't be effected by her except a couple thousands lost.
>>29136806matome/5ch counted that day as Shibuya Hal win also
>>29135922YES YES I KNOW THEY ARE ALL THE G U R A K I L L E R. THEY WILL ALL CHANGE THE LANDSCAPE OF VTUBING
>>29136290>>29136318I'm just waiting until the stream ends to watch it without lag
>>29077415>>29079745>>29079853Friendly reminder not to talk shit
who is this 2m guy youre talking about guys?
>>29136987titty and tatty
>>29136960They fell into the same exact trap these threads would and took the applicants with the biggest PL numbers.
>Diabolik LoversNot only a fujo but an ironic oneSomeone save Mag from that spic larper.
>>29136806No, for fuck's sake I was here last year in August, there was no argument that Niji had won the month, this revision after the fact is unseemly.
Thanks for having a nsfw art tag Scarle.Easier for me to find fap material.
>learn spanisheveryone got scammed lmao
>>29136960That is what happens when you prioritize political ideology over actual talent like NijiEN did with this wave.
>>29137072WATAMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE
>>29136916Hmm, I wonder where the lost viewers went to?? Curious
>>29137072ISREALNijisanji bots are no match for black magic
>>29137146i thought she was flipxican.
I never took the botting claims seriously until today. 25k dont just up and disappear
>twisted wonderland first stream
>>29137073Final guy.
>>29136916>buy 40k bots>connection dies>bots cannot reconnect automaticallythis is z' behavior on other nijis too
>>29136718So this was how Finana killed her own number.
>>29132954ruthless
>the absolute state of the NijiEN threadHoly fuck, I feel bad for them.
They had 30k applicants and these are the people they got?
>>29136960The downside of ACCELERATING is slowly showing
>>29137146HOLY FUCK HAHAHAHAHA
>a fucking fujo with a sex designIs Nijisanji retarded or something
deadinthefuckingwater
wouldn't it be funny if all the tourists from the debuts moved over to Gura after they are finished haha
>>29137180>black magicBrown magic
>>29137196>>29137170The funniest thing is that they didn't even go to the watchalong
I can't take it any more.
>>29137072JESAS WATAMAGE IS TOO POWERFUL
>>29136900This is the latest mention of August 2021 gold>>27165629
>>29137196....Yea, shit.Lag on debut shouldn't result in ZERO recovery, fucking hell. I thought it was just tourists, but even Salome recovered her numbers whenever she lagged.
>sawtoothit's over, they're literally just leeching the same ccv infested audience HoloEN and HoloID already have
>>29137304pls tell me whats happening there, I dont want to enter that shithole
>>29137238it was a collaborative work of her playing kuso gacha, being a seething femoid on twitter and buttchugging dumb bitch juice.
>>29136916So suspicious 73k becomes 50kSo 23k bots
>>29136957Pomudachi..
>>29137193Like third gen flipxican maybe
why area they leeching on debut, bro build up your audience first
>>29137350>my senpai left foot
>>29137129>AUGUST1) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 85,309 - AR live2) Pekora (Hololive) - 31,008 - Payday 2 collab3) Miko (Hololive) - 36,174 - Shiraken GTA4) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 51,821 - Winning Eleven collab5) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 52,844 - Eden-gumi profiles6) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 156,062 - Celebrity APEX7) Flare (Hololive) - 60,571 - 2nd anniversary 3D live8) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 70,127 - Niji Koshien practice9) Aqua (Hololive) - 84,057 - 3rd anniversary 3D live10) Hal (Indie) - 72,466 - VSaikyo S3 landmark lottery11) Marine (Hololive) - 94,400 - 2nd anniversary 3D12) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 65,011 - Niji Koshien 2021 pre-show13) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 147,639 - Niji Koshien 2021 A-league14) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 170,896 - Niji Koshien 2021 B-league15) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 205,448 - Niji Koshien 2021 finals16) Ollie (Hololive) - 52,687 - Costume reveal17) Shion (Hololive) - 55,615 - 3D birthday18) Gura (Hololive) - 42,455 - Unarchived karaoke19) Watame (Hololive) - 42,288 - 3D announcement20) Mio (Hololive) - 58,031 - 3D birthday live21) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 48,128 - APEX custom22) Hal (Indie) - 132,049 - VSaikyo S3 tournament23) Kronii (Hololive) - 94,966 - HoloEN debut24) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 51,404 - Poker Chase collab25) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 108,077 - Niji Koshien exhibition match26) Marine (Hololive) - 32,311 - Mario Kart27) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 30,318 - Nijinoon28) Furen (Nijisanji) - 98,761 - 3D debut29) Kronii (Hololive) - 43,355 - Council meeting30) Miko (Hololive) - 32,971 - Mikkorone Mario Party31) Pekora (Hololive) - 59,204 - Clubhouse 51 totsumachiHolo: 15Nijisanji: 14Neoporte: 2>https://archive.alice.al/vt/thread/28894266/#28897624
>>29136916So for actual accurate debut numbers, do we need to be subtracting ~30k from each stream to account for the bots that Scarle's lag disconnected?
>>29137350HAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH holy shit.
>>29135922>making a prediction from debut hypecall me a month from now and if they incline even after losing the debut hype like Kobo then they're legit a contender for world-changing gen.
>>29137146AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>29136900we already went over this timeloop, Kuzuha had the biggest number across the acceptable tracking sites, so he won.
Still zero recovery after 20 minutes.
>>29137480they will release another wave before that happens
>>29137304I feel bad for themThey will have to pretend to like this soon..
>>29137350That is possibly the worst debut week stream schedule I've ever seen.
Scarle Yonaguni Subs at debut stream start 132kScarle Yonaguni subs after debut stream 143k (+11k)the horrific internet really shot her in the foot
>>29137552Bot Theory CONFIRMED!!
>>29137318maybe we need to divide it by 5k
>>29137230Nijisanji bought more than 40k bots of varying qualities.40k is the floor.
>>29137146No fucking way
>>29137350Kronii has better stream choices than this shit
>>29137072They should have learned, but they couldn't resist. Now it comes back to haunt them.
>>29135541>Selen made it on the listInclining.
>>29137617She has...closing shift in it. I'll be honest, still better than the garbage that was wave 3 week one schedules, but still yea oof.
>>29137552Holy fuck the bots were real
>>29137422Same type of graph despite being a different branch. I swear this shit is more affecting them by company.Could it be the country they register their corpo accounts? Channel creation date? I don't know.
>>29137552nothing suspicious here.
>>29137072
DAILY REMINDER: NEVER BADMOUTH WATAMAGE
>>29137552Botsanji...
>>29137193must be second or third gen, most of those fuckers don't know their own language.
>>29137350>opening with the WORST FUCKING GACHA GAME TO WATCHHoly christ
I imagine there is a lot of shit like these in cover's audition application lol.
Ren Zotto needs to save this disaster
>>29135381Blame the Nijishills, they started
>>29137146I fucking love burgers
>>29137739yeah..for 10 min because of raid.
Reimu rival
>>29137797WATAMAGE FORMA DE BEE I KNEEL
>>29137784No, it's literally what I said: HoloEN and ID tourists, who are CCVid flagged, are checking them out.
>>29137350>fujo gacha>rate senpai left footTrash content
>>29137739>Gets raid spiked and over 80%+ of the raid fucks off>Inclining
>>29137739>raided>fall off cliffDon't celebrate. That shit is worse than Twitchfags
>>29137448I don't think the lag shook ALL the bots, we don't know what the actual stream total would be. It's probably a flat 30k like they used to run on Salome her first few weeks.
>>29137350Holy fuck literally worse than just not streaming this week
>>29137432They're at the stage of "ready to drink bleach" doomposting.
>>29137757>>29137617Otome games (VNs in general, really) are stream poison. You basically have to be a voice actor to make them entertaining.
>>29137350JESAS WTF
>>29137904Reim-who?
Sadao Maou, you're niji's last hope
>>29137904I can't fucking take it any more.
>>29137904The fujos will hate this.
>>29137350Shit schedule.Ruined
>>29137146ahaha.wav
>>29137904Awful head/facial design
This is why cover takes so long, they have to sift through thousands and thousands of these shitters while niji just takes them
>>29136718It's not fair that this company gets to keep Mito.
>>29137499Thanks, anon. I thought Niji won something last year, but actually they haven't won any month since 2021, and they have like 200+ vtubers. Pathetic.
>>29135468Deserved
>>29137552can they restart them in time?
>>29137904>HAVE ALL THE TITTY HAVERS COSPLAY ME allahuakbar sister
I think she killed any hype remaining. The watch along lost 10k compared to before her debut
Okay, Does any of the new NijiEN have any talent at all? Like singing or drawing?
>>29137146wait what she isn't fluent?
You know from what kind of fans they took these new chuubas from when literally the only other Nijis that gets mentioned in these debuts are Mysta and Vox. Zero NijiJP. Zero female NijiENs. Only Mysta and Vox multiple times
Alright this has all been really funny but I'm getting tired, can they wrap this up?
>>29137552Yea, I'm calling bots on this one.
>>29137784Or maybe, just maybe, they are getting the same audiences from Holo / HoloEN instead of inviting new audiences in. Several experiments have established that YT tags *viewers*, not *streamers* when they cull CCV
>>29137350Is this a HoloEN streamer? Hiring a vtuber that hates streaming
>this model being this wasted
>>29138216will the others bully her till graduation?
>>29137072AAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE IN KNEEL WATAMAGE
>>29138167they almost got their win with salami but the combine force of Hololive 1st army make it to the tie.
>>29138309it's a shit model
>>29138215Talent?
>>29137350>rate footDo they think this kind of contents are cool or something?
>>29138215the first one tried to sing on her debut and almost fucking died
>>29137072The fool...
I am starting to think there is only 11-20k real people on these streams
in other news blue guy broke 5k on Zelda
>>29138215Council, outside of Mumei's singing, doesn't have talent either so
>>29137904>The NijisanjificationWhy they keep pushing that shit?
>>29137552Fuck man, I didn't want to believe. That's just grim.
>>29138215Maria and Ren can supposedly sing. A few draw but it seems mostly at an amateur level. Finana of all people is probably the best artist in Niji EN, even though she hasn't done an art stream in like 6 months.
>>29137480MUST.ACCELERATE! purisu andastando
>>29138412why is botsanji like this?
gura is going full RAPISU RAZURI GIVE ME to kaela. kino.
>>29138412It's Nijisanji culture to not hang out in waiting rooms, not chat, and to leave and be unable to rejoin when the stream is momentarily disrupted.
>>29138412Those bots accusation is not a joke anonit happen too often
>>29138427>B-B-But what about
Ren Zotto subs before debut stream 128k the last hope to beat Council debuts
>>29138215talent ? the fuck is that ?
>>29138457>Maria>singShe almost died on her debut trying to sing a 5 minute song
>>29137499So where's the other one which niji wins
>>29138412that's about how many tabbed out of the watchalong
>>29138412Nah look at other big CCV streams. The ratio of chatters to CCV is more than 1 to 1, but there is certainly a worse ratio for NijiENs on Debut yeah
>>29138167>HoloEN is losing the market, with big NijiEN streams going on right now>Quick, let's cope with JPsLike clockwork
>1 minute lateVery cool
>>29138412Same 10k people every stream. Probably another 10-20k that don't chat. The rest bots.
>hes late
>>29137904oh my, I wonder how vox fujos take this.
>>29138427ask about niji enanswer : councilbro why are you retard
>>29137552Actually, legitimately, unironically botted. Jesas.
>>29138606Bots Reboot
I'm glad my prayers were answered by watamage29051186
>>29138562I linked the thread, there's a comparison, and then someone linked evidence to correct the record. Go look through that old thread
>>29138418So he's Kiara tier, that's fine enough for a stars
>>29138498Gura staring into the abyss of pure hag autism is saving my brain from the debuts
>>29135787Maybe it wasn't her Internet and some bots were purged?
at this rate all the niji trainwreck is going to pile just in time into towa's exoprimal stream
>>29138457I got Maria confused. The Mexican one whatever her name is can supposedly sing? Is it racist to assume the Mexican one is named Maria?
>>29138606turning bots back on please undastandu
>>29138606>>29138614He's probably checking his internet so the same doesn't happen to himHe's Aussie after all
>intro was muted until the 1 minute wave OPuh.... oh no watamage.... stop it
>>29138747If he maintains it (let alone grows it) he would still exceed expectations
I think Nijisanji has 30k bots. ONLY 30k though. The rest is organic viewers
What a fucking shitshow
Glad watamage answered my prayers >>29051186
>2 shulkers of quartzkaela, i kneel.
Start with 50k!!!!!
>>29138747>literally the first stream after debut
So .... who is the new Gura Killer in wave6 ?
ogey
>>29138747This is debut-buffed. He'll be lucky if he has half that by the end of the week.
>>29138788>singing>mexiflipDont expect anything labeled flip, overrated
>the bots are completely deadlmao
>hardcore fujoshi>Get best combait modelWho is her target audience?
He has a very dub VA type voice. At least it's not unpleasant.
>>29135790This yeah.You people need to understand, Holofags cannot in fact invoke the curse ourselves. We can call someone a Gura Killer all we want, but all it'll do is exactly fucking zilch.No, the curse can only be invoked by actual Nijifags/niggers/shills. And mind you, they don't actually have to say 'Gura Killer' verbatim. For example, Remember when Vox's fujos started strutting around in this boatd and calling him 'the new face of Vtubing'? Yeah, look at his numbers now and tell me if those words didn't invoke the curse as well.
By the way, Regis just almost slipped up and called his Manager 'dad'
>>29138589Anon, nijisanji just caught botting their debuts. What market is Nijisanji cornering? The androids?
>>29138994ALL OF THEM
>>29138994all of them just wait till the next week
>>29138994Rosemi 2.0 I guess
>blue man talking about only being allowed to stream in 1 hour intervalsyikes so that means hes done soon
If the Nijibros want to beat Hololive you guys need to get rid of Watamage
Bots reactivated
>2 mins>72kWatch out holokeks
>>29139135calli is his manager?
Ren would have gotten 90k if Scarle hadn't killed the momentum. 70k is still good though.
>the one who was supposed to break 80k will be the lowest one nowDamn.
>>29139034Ironically, even with half he'll be fine as a stars. I think he'll do far better on actual buff content tho. Uki with lower karaoke peaks is my prediction for him.
These NijiEN debuts have been unmitigated disasters. Holy shit, lmao.
>>29139228They had to be resynched.
>>29139196how new
>>29139196Vesper already talked about this. Dude also said he was hoping Management would forget he exists so he could do what he wants
>>29139228Reboot sequence successful.
>>29139196>only being allowedLmao that has to be a joke
I kind of zoned out with the debuts. Which one of these fags was the 1m+ subs youtuber before? This one?
>>29139309Nobody cares about quality here, we only care about numbers
>>29139380Yes Ren Zotto
This guy will be huge with fujos. Luxiem tier.
>>29139228how the fuck does this work
>>29139131aaaaieeeeeeeeeeeeeee! She stung me!
>>29138418Zelda is ironically an awful choice, not only it's JRPG debuff, but as they can only stream for one hour, he's going to take forever to actually finish it.
>>29139386nice cope
>>29139386THEIR NUMBERS WILL BE ASSTHEY'RE FUCKING BOTTED
>>29138215Has it ever occur to you that their talent is... streaming? The niji scout chose people based on how entertaining they were during streaming, not other stupid useless talent. Just look at Sana, great artist, but where is she now?
>>29139432what type of vids did he do?
Muted.
80k
Well, they might have one 5k guy out of this wave and the music videos will be big.
If Ren just completely drop the rest of iLuna and leech from Mysta and Vox he will easily be Luxiem tier
>>29139432Well, I can definitely see him wetting panties.
>>29139228Yeah no I don't buy it. Why is it so much cleaner than Scarle's incline?
>>29139196Vesper said it already. Also they're being forced into these timeslots by management.
>>29139386Quality determines future numbers. From what I've seen I can't wait to see how shit their numbers are in a couple weeks.
>>29139472I'm gonna be honest I would have a hard time picking a good game if I'm limited to 1 hour. I guess RE?
>>29139472He just needs to stop streaming it. Finishing long games isn't a requirement and no one will ask him to do it if he doesn't say anything about it either
>>29139549Animatics about him and his girlfriend. With this style of singing.
https://youtu.be/eVJtFlmgL3kmy broshi is streaming soon
>>29139438Too bad he has a girlfriend
probably the only onethat can break 10k
>>29138994You can't kill the GuraThe Gura will live onPetra tried to kill the GuraBut they failed, as they were smite to the groundVox tried to kill the GuraBut they failed, as they were stricken down to the groundScarle tried to kill the Gura, hahahahaThey failed, as they were thrown to the ground!
>>29139155>Stream lagged so viewers lost interest and left>BottingYeah, one of this thread's infamous cope. I'm aware. Think about it, what kind of bots can't even rejoin a stream, anon? You should've seen how Chink bots - written by completely amateurs - jumped from one Holo stream to another and rejoining new streams without any issue. Do you seriously think *paid* bots will perform worse?
EZ 80kTime to break holowhores' record
>>29139438>This guy will be huge with fujos. Luxiem tier.Agreed, This is Luxiem calibur. basically the sixth member
>doing a 6 pull and getting 1 good pullNijisanji shotgun strategy working out
I wonder where the 30k tourists went when the mexibitch had an internet hiccup? Definitely not to the watchalong. Guess they suddenly found their way back,
Any chance Ren breaks 90k?
>80K GETTruly the savior of iLuna
Regis talks like a 2view
>**u>"Oh shit! Nijisanji debuts today!">come to /#/>read postsSo, is Nijisanji trying to kill vtubing as an entertainment medium or what?
>>29139542>The niji scout chose people based on how entertaining they were during streamingNice joke.
>>29139707I guess you missed his debut. He LOVES zelda games and his goal is to play all of them on stream.
>>29139719He's married
81kBtfo
>>29139760he won't beat council and he doesn't stand a chance against holox.
>80kits over holobros..
>>29139719aren't they married alreadythey been in the scene for 10 years
>>29139806Yagoo will save them all
>>29139719Having a girlfriend just makes you more desirable to girls.
>80kKek
>>29139742ironically if Gura were ever surpassed she might actually stream more due to feeling less pressure (and inadvertently become number 1 again)
>>29139542Look at Scarle's schedule and tell me that her strong suit is streaming.
FAG VOICE
>>29139745THAT'S NEVER BEEN HOW REAL VIEWERS WORKED
>>29139745Nijisanji bots are known for its shitty quality, cope harder.
>>29139855welcome to the nijianti thread, if you like them I hope you don't have thin skin
>>29139438Too bad they're doxfags and he has a high profile girlfriend.
So based on debuts, Ren looks like a keeper. Could rival Luxiem.The rest, not looking good. Maybe Aster has potential.
The power of 2m subs
>>29139935L O L
>>29139341Noir talked about it too. Apparently Stars EN management told them that they should just stream around one hour per stream during first week(s) to prevent themselves from burning out. Guess Sana (and to lesser extent, IRyS, but it's more of a physical issue in IRyS's case) gave them PTSD
>>29139768This is literally the only guy that had any real qualifications. It's not a "throw everything at all the wall and see what sticks" as much as "we only found one thing to throw at the wall".
Outside of my personal bias, I'm pretty sure this guy is going to get good numbers. Fujos are gonna be all over him
>>29139719>implying having a girlfriend/wife is a turnoff for themunironically an even bigger turn on to imagine that you're the true love while he suffers a loveless marriage with his shrew of a wife
>>29139644>forced
Might reach 83-85k if lucky, the mexican really undercut the momentum
BLUE HOMI RAID MAGGIN
>>29139707Twilight princess is his favorite game of all time, he's not dropping it.
There hasn't been a Salome general for a few days.
>79kReclining
Sure 80k viewers and a song right away will bring at least 15k chatters,right ?
So 6 failures in a row huh. Even bots can't save this wave
>>29140002> everyone who disagrees with me is an antiThere's nothing wrong with calling out liars and trannies
Oh no, he's cringe,
>>29140185who?
>>29139719Are you not aware of how girls work? A guy with a girlfriend is usually more desirable than a single guy. The same reason why a guy who is good with everyone isn't as desirable as a guy who only treats his GF super nicely
Someone has the previous NijiEN wave's debut number?
wait... he might not beat Sana? Lord....
>>29139742Challenge accepted.
>>29138450I haven't watched hololive debuts in a while, how many hololive streamers have had debut streams saying that they super love hololive and want to spread hololive popularity and stuff?
>>29140173>dropped to 78kStop jinxing him
Not even going to beat Sana?
>>29140138Vesper already said he doesn't want to stream at fucking 1am EST, he wants to stream at 1pm EST.
so 2m guy confirmed it was him? who is this btw 2m guy..im out of loop
>>29140185dare ?
>>29140202I'll guess 13k. He probably has about 40k real viewers.
Maglord gonna catch the debut and gura funnels?
Ren and to a lesser extent Aster have the most potentional CCV wise.
>>29140275>says troon anon as he spreads liesschizoids do be funny
EVERYBODY SHUT THE FUCK UPIT'S MAGGIN' TIME
If Iluna is this bad, what will their Noctyx be like?
>>29140379Ganbare Watamage
magni 5k 1 minute in
>>29140386>Stop jinxing himno
THIS IS THE GURA KILLER
>>29140383None, even Kronii at best just said she wants to make friends and be happy
>Magni 5700 within a minute
so is the raid actually gonna trigger or am I gonna have to click
>>29140185I was forgotten
Mag time, let's see some ART
I wonder if NijiEN will funnel to Gura or Magni
>>29140489Wait until EN3 is announced and you'll get to find out the next day!
jwu and got a fucking insane workload dunked on me. probably won't be able to backread threads. qrd on the niji debuts so far?
>>29139768What you described is more of a russian roulette.
>>29140565He got a raid from Altare
>>29140461Aster is the only one I muted. Just seems like an even gayer Uki.
>>29140466Now say that again without crying
Magni isn’t seriously gonna get 10k by himself with Gura, Mori and Ame streaming over him rightIs this what it feels like to have NEW FANS
>>29140602they're tourists - they'll funnel to the outside world
>>29140404>Forced to stream at 10pm when he streamed in the morning
>>29140185the paid nijishills are relocated to shilling Iluna right now. Just think, the threads stopped shortly after ILuna was shown
>>29140622They're all pretty terrible, the only good one is the last one and he's not that good either
>>29140185What, was even /vt/ botted?
>76kOH NO NIJIBROS
>>29140622troons and SJWs with one fujo mexiflip
So considering the real number of viewers from Iluna was ~45k, what are the CCV of these fools a month from now looking like
>>29140639You are likely not the target audience considering Uki is one of the most successful Noctyx members.
>>29140185Contrarians pretending to like her out of spite could only go so far.
Declining, I dont think the voice fits the model
>australiahe is gonna stream on jp time time
>>29140383Almost none. Nijisanji just cares about the brand and tells their talents to say it.
>>29140602Bots don't funnel
I've been watching Gura's stream, how are the Nijis?
>>29140622Surprisingly low quality wave considering how much they focused on pulling in high sub PLs with this one.
>>29140622All trash and confirmed botting. Just the usual nijishit.
>>29140768OH NO NO NO NO NIJIBRONIES NOT LIKE THIS
>>29140667Management really needs to take them out of this timeslot or at least let them stream more than 1 hour so they can get views from Holos that end
>>29140450Gura isn't ending anytime soon. He's getting pretty good numbers anyway though. Also full on brotuber i love it.
>>29140777VOX KILLER
can't even beat council debutsbut hey you beat homoStars kek
>>29140768the voice is fine but it has been 6 debuts of NOTHING except cute traielrs and ta song.people are tired
This disaster of a wave just gave more spotlight for starsen
>>29140768They wanted another Vox.
I hope someone kept track of the like ratio of tempus debuts so we can compare.
wow Twitter reaction, this is nice buff content.
watamage did well today, the sabo of mexiflip killing momentum for alien boy so Council wasnt passed.
>>29140420Just check doxsister site, everything is there
>>29140768I don't know why niji models get so much praise, his especially was the most generic model I've ever seen. I'd rather have a bad model that is memorable than that.
>>29140846They're fantastic. The Pablo Picasso of vtubing writ large, x6.
Magni...
>>29140185>Roboco general still live>No Salome generalz...zehi desuwa
>Man, Youtube chat is much quicker than Twi-Magnigga stop
>>29140185Non retard answer.No streams and the recent was at 8am in western time.
>>29140982nowa ojii is so cute bwos
>>29140777VOX DONT LOOK
>peak early>lose numbers the moment people see youevery. single. debut.embarrassing, nijis
>Man, YT chat is so much faster than Twit-that was close mag...
>>29140982I think it's the dad joke stream?
>>29140092I mean that IS good intentions but..That seems retarded, why not strike while the iron is hot? How are they gonna have time to make good impressions on debut tourists with only a few hours first week?
>>29141049>>29141023lmao doxxing himself already
>6 minutes in and Magni is already the most entertaining new streamer of the night
>>29140383Magni has stated that he wants to be build the STARSbox. Does that count?
>>29137904>have all the t*tty havers cosplay me>be drawn as a big t*tty hot himboDoes this bitch have any other personality trait aside from “I have big tits, look at them!”?
>>29140982Did you want a stream of 4chan and the graduation afterwards?
>>29140982Watch him get 10k because he's not in overlap hell
>>29140768Thats the neji specialty
>>29140993what is that thing?
>>29138323Why would she be the scapegoat when it's Anykara's botting system that lagged?
This nigga wants to cover a Sonic song
Maf is beating mori and ame. Looks like holostar is really more popular than en.
>>29140185Because they were literally anti hololive contrarians. Just like the retards making a fucking CookieSwirl general pretending they were watching her content.
I feel like he is wasted in this company, too high quality
>>29141253>neji specialityjobbing ?
>>29140982Didnt this thread kill Vox for doing that week 1?
>>29141190AnonAnon have you not been seeing what they did on TwitterThey're so vapid it's astonishing They have nothing to them
>I LOVE PLAYING GAMES>nintendo shit>nintendo shit>nintendo shit>fucking kingdom hearts>nintendo shit>Monster Hunter>Fucking basic ass apex>Nintendo shit>nintendo shit>Nintendo shit
Mori is actually losing to mag btw lmao
>>29140846Better you don't know
>>29141380Should have been a Holostar.
THE SANA LINE IS SAFE
>>29141153Not as good as gura.
What were Uproar's first stream numbers like
You fags told me they wouldn't hit 80k
>>29141190>personalityRoru
>reminder that Nijis were coping that they would easily hit 90k>can't even beat Council
The Gura killer dream may be dead, but surely we at least got ourselves a handful of Kobo killers.Right?
>80k is out of reach I think, pretty disappointing, but that just sums up NijiEN6 and NijiEN as a whole lmao. Thank God for Hololive
did any of them beat council?
>>29141448MAGGED
>>29141456It's really difficult to get into an organization as prestigious as HolostarsEN though.
you fags told me sana line will be breached ?
>>29141509And you fags told me they'd totally beat Council
>>29141368Honeymoon period is three months long.
NIJISIS? WHAT HAPPENED? WASNT THIS WAVE GONNA MOG COUNCIL? You haven't even touched sana.... What happened sis?
>cant do chatting streams as their main scheduled content by managementdamn the stars are being micromanaged
>>29141536Niji need pekokiller.
>>29141542NOPE
I was hoping for a Mag or Noir tier from Iluna, but I guess I'm being too optimistic.
If management is making them all stream 1 hour in their first week, why are Regis and Axel actually playing games?Just do a zatsu going over your slides in more detail or something instead of playing debuff games
>>29141538forgot > is greentext and not greater than
>>29141448trying asmr with the games isnt a good option but lets see how it goes
>>29141542No but they beat... holoStars lol
Dunno which niji is debuting rn, but I'm gonna call them a Gura Killer.
This fucker watched anime until he was 16 and then just stopped
>>29141542Not even close, numerically. But they got a moral and spiritual victory.
KUZUHA KILLER
>>29141536Anon...a Kobo killer would be the highest in their branch. No chance.
>>29141542GREEN LAMY TOO STRONG
Did Magni kneecap his momentum?
did he just Z'ed
>>29141538wait for niji wave 7 you bith
>>29140639That's typical coming from a trap. Unless someone will do the shtick of doing a somewhat deep-voiced trap earlier than me.
>>29141606Imagine getting rejected over a 1.2k sub dude. We might see another round of discord leak
>>29141861Lol no, he's actually getting decent numbers post debut
>>29141687It's good that they're pushing back this early, they need to play to their strengths
>>29141868WHAT THE FUCK HAHAHAH HE ACTUALY Z'D
The fuck?
>>29141732They aren't allowed to do zatsus as their main content. Noir did it in the morning because he asked and they said sure bit he still has to stream on his planned schedule slot.
He fucking z'd. Because of course he did
LMAO HE Z'D IN DEBUT HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAA
>>29141368Imagine if homostars keeps beating HoloEN on a regular basis.Imagine the shitposting
>>29141139By doing some guerilla.
>>29141876Then they will have to overcome the 100k+ of EN3
>>29141732dude we wouldn't have gotten to see blue guy's impressive vocal ability without a gaming stream
Lmfao did Ren just Z to 90k?
Fucking bullshit, mystery 10k out of nowhere. Watchalong didnt decline
>just shot up 10k in a minutewhat the fuck happened
>>29141724They are unironically trash, this last guy is the best, he is still disapointing, and he'll probably be Alban tier at most.The others are completely trash, I can't see any of them with an average higher than 3k and most of them won't even break 2k
>90k Z>still can't beat faunaLMAO
90000 DIORRRYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>albumas if
Nijikeks. EXPLAIN YOURSELVES
Dafuq?
$11
ZED HARDER IT'S STILL NOT ENOUGH TO BEAT COUNCIL
AAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE SUSAN LET MAGNI SING HIS AUTISTIC SONIC SONGS
>beat SanaGet fucked Council turds
>>29141542Why did it have to be ASMR
>Z'd into 90kLmao
niji mreally mastered the art of z huhwhat if there is an attempt ?
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Nice z to cap off this botted shitshow
>Need Z to breach Sana line>On the last debutantPathetic
Trying to escape management and copyright strike in first stream KEKW
>>29141861>9kYou blind?
>>29141542Green Ramy ...
Botting this hard lmao
>>29141474>New streamerMeaning one that just debuted not someone already established
hard z to below 70k
So this is the artist slotnot bad
>>29141542>Yes look >>29141999 90k max
>>29141811>Not even closePretty close actually.
>>29141988>>29141999>>29142089HOLY BOTTED
This niji debut is an unironic shitshow.
AN ACTUAL Z ON DEBUT. NIJIKEKS EXPLAIN YOURSELF AHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>29142098last guy really proves how terrible they are at hiring, hes just some scene kid who can kind of sing, imagine if they actually tried with their hiring instead of bringing in a new wave every other month and hoping one becomes kuzuha
>Magni is drawing SonicIs this okay? Do you not need permission for this?
>"Oh no, even Sana is mogging us Riku-sama, what should we do?">Release the Z
>>29141974I meant kneecap the Ninjisanji guy from getting past 80K, as he started dropping when Magni started.
>>29142167>perform on stageLMAO should've joined the homos with their guaranteed concerts.
>>29142322They have Sega permissions, no?
MAGNI 9K WITH GURA AND MORI STREAMINGTHIS IS NOT A DRILL. WE MAY SEE A 10K WITH OVERLAP
>>29142167The last 2 goals are the only possible one Kek
>>29142322sonic sega is cool
>>29142167If you know his roommate, he actually had a shitton of original songs so it's not completely out of the question. Glory days long passed tho.
>>29141988Fucking nijibots, they are so disgusting
Bros...he's faster than Mumei and a better conversationalist...
>>29142322Sega would like it
> bought ads> bought 40k+ bots> Z just to get internet pointsWhat a pathetic display
>>29142289he's actually good damn
Did he z'd just for beating Sana?
>>29141999ok..this shit is not funny anymore.Do Anykara really?
amazing
>>29142322RETARD KO'ONE IS THE OFFICIAL SONIC AMBASSADOR
>>29142322They literally have a Sonic Ambassador in Hololive
>>29142289Oh, that's pretty good!
>>29142408IM SORRY KAELA, I MUST SUPPORT MY BRO
Magni with good numbers in overlap hell drawing shit lol
>>29142372Oh, no, that's because the bots got flagged or something probably
Blue man.... 5k for his first stream because he decided to play some jank ass debuff shit like Zelda... i weep
>>29137496that and Minesweeper are arguably kino.
Magni 10k for first stream with Gura and Niji Debut, he's in a good place right now
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Good start for Magni
Why the fuck did the Niji debut get a 16k spike in less than a minute?
>>29142437but Mumei can draw AND sing
Ren end your damn stream so I can see how many funnel into Magni
NIJI GOLDNIJI GOLDNIJI GOLD
>They hoped for a 90k+ stream and was waiting to activate the Z for 100k+ peakRate my rrat
>>29142518Why the fuck did it instantly declineWhat do these Zs represent, seriously
>>29142322They have the Sonic Ambassador on their side
>>29142495>here we beat one of holoEN debuts convincinglyNew presentation to investors
let's see if he recovers from the Z
completely natural
>>29142518HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH WHAT A JOKE
A-ANONS??
>>29142624Hm...I wonder...It is a mystery...
A FUCKING PEAK FOLLOWED BY A PLUNGE NIJIKEKS I HAVE SOME NEWS FOR YOU
>>29142408Based, glad homos reached their own audience.
MAGLORD 10K DORRRYAAAAAAAA
>>29142682woah
>>29142408>OVERLAPso this is why starsjp gets bad numbers because of the overlap with holojp? jesus stop comparing different branches
>>29142664really makes you think
>>29142289SEGA sponsor incoming!
>>29142167Uuuh buddy I don't think you joined the right place.
>all these posters that don't know about Z's How many tourists here holy shit
>>29142617Hahahahahaha
This guy is gonna get fired lmfao
Nijisanji and their chink managements
>>29140732actual tranny? really? they went there?
lmao this guy is actually funny, I will watch your homo now
>>29141988>>29141999Anything for the investors
>>29142884Nigga, we know about Z's, that shit is so fucking unnatural
>metroid>genshinotherwise it is an ok schedule
The perfect Z, lmao nijikeks should be banned from this thread
>>29142674No chance considering he was already declining before the Z.I wonder if debut tracker anon is going to add asterisks for stuff like this.
>>29142935A Omegle troon
>>29142704>Second streamBarely 10k doa
>>29142901Anon, Astel literally picks fight with management at least once a week
>>29142884nigger we know about Z but it's a fucking debut like what the fuck
holy shit the homoENs are fucking blunt and brutal
>>29142617Shameless.
>>29143002It's beautiful, that Z looks better than my handwriting. I'm sure there's a totally innocent explanation.
>>29143060>10kAPOLOGISE
Mag 10K
MAGNI WITH 10KJESUS CHRIST HOLO HIT IT HOME HUGE WITH THE BOYS
Hey Nijikeks, if you want to Z, at least make it incline again like lapluss
Mag to 10k
MAGLORD 10K IN OVERLAP HELL
10K, overlapping the two most subbed chuubas in hololive
>>29143002I expect an asterisk next to every single NijiEN debut number now and moving forward.
>Magni beating Mori>Nijiliars Z'd to beat SanaKek seems like holostars is our underdog this year bois
HE DID IT!
Reminder that Noctyx had better reception on debut. Illuna is just that bad when even Nijikeks can't shill them
>>29143086How does it being a debut change anything? Z's are just random as shit
>>29143176And all the possible nijitourist watching the debuts
https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1551380735059054593https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1551380735059054593https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1551380735059054593>Mori will do an EU stream week
MAGCHADS STATUS?!
I'm more curious to see what Magni's graph looks like when Gura finally wraps this up.
2nd star to make the big boi tally
>>29142704Unironically took Luxiem several months for them to have their very first 10k streamIf StarsEN can build on this can they become stable 10k CCV chuubas?
MAG STATUS?
>>29142322He isn't drawing Sonic taking a shit into Shadow's mouth so I think its fine.
>>29139709wait, really. I may have seen one. seems kinda cringe.
>>29143300She saw the Noir tweet
>>29143301CAN'T STOP MAGGIN'
Alright let's see who catches the funnel
>>29143384WINNING
>>29143257>random>Almost every Nijigraph has Z>Comes in the most expected timing to beat holo peak
magni i kneel, get fucked blue boy
so its true he was the 2m man?
>>29143300Probably saw all the reddit comments complaining about the lack of EU streams
>>29143301MAGGING
>>29143384Being cockblocked by perms.
Magni beating Mori in overlap hell HAHAHHAHAHA deserved for shilling them endlessly
11K DORYAAAAA
>>29143512Yeah he ejaculated in 2 minutes
>>29143504Hey c'mon, he's trying his best
Gura ending We might see a funnel
>>29142414He does put out a lot of songs, same goes for Ike. Yugo also has a music background along with Shu. But the point is, the company aren't gonna support them on those endevours unless they can wait for a long time. Making songs, marketing, promotion, distribution. That's a lot of stuff for EN management when all they could think of is accelerating. They would've support Enna/Reimu/Shu/Ike/Yugo/Uki a long time ago if they were competent. Even Melissa hadn't had her big break, neither did chima after so many years.
>>29143300welll she has streamed on EU time before doesnt she?
Gura is wrapping. Magni bout to catch a wave.
Mr Hands 11k
MAGNI GETTING FUNNEL
>10k against Gura and NijiMagWIN
Mag 11K
was that the worst debut in recent history? Just in terms of the debuts themselves.
Last graph, thanks for the company fellow numberfags
>>29143300I dont think eu viewers will watch her
>>29143377Theyre gonna take in some of the HoloEN's audience (if theyre not streaming) AND bring in possibly a newer audience
>>29143593>overlap hellhe is the only fucking holostar streaming
>>29143633Yeah, when she went to meet KiaraSo a few days, not a whole week
>>29143704FUNNELLLLLLLLLL
So Magni 11k with Gura still on means they have different audience right?
MAGNATION RISES
Biggest threat to EN girls is not Niji, but EN boys.
>>29143300She cares?
Meanwhile me, I'm going to watch Towa.
>Gura ending>NijiEN ending15k Magni I'm calling it now
>>29143660MY MAGNIGGA IS AMAZING
>>29143685The only people that are going to be bragging about it are shitposters.
>>29143813Vox killer>Vox killerVox killer>Vox killerVox killer>Vox killer
Gura really likes Kaela
11k is the cap for the boys
>>29143840Aye
2020 to present debut numbers (no holo ID gen 1 and no sub shitter niji id, kr, in)
>>29143859All the later shit has outshined the fact that the first debut started with the vtuber singing badly and then crying
EXPLAIN THIS NOW
MAGNI APPROACHING 100k SUBS
>>29143817After a watchalong, Ame does sc reading... I wont be surprised if shes losing teammates every stream
>90k for RenI kneel...
>>29143685It almost felt like a parody.
>Vesper and Mag both 10K+ on their first solo streams>Regis 5KI feel bad for him...
MAGNATION 10k+ average chuuba
Zsanji
>>29143817>EN girlsExcept Gura, she's untouchable inn the entire EN vtibing.
>>29143808chumbuds are unicorns
>>29143704>kissChumbuds don't look
>>29143945If Gura starts streaming MC again because of this, I will unironically kneel to ID hagchads
Shoto in Magnis chat
Gura is talking about building Atlantis with Kaela
>>29144004>90KDo nijiniggers really? kek
>>29144029Bots
>>29143593So Homobeggars are merging Hololive and Holostar now?
>>29143705The absolute state of nijinigs
>>29144109gura going RAPISU RAZURI GIVE ME with quartz to kaela was pure kino.
>>29144029HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Magni 100k subs
>>29144059>zeldaitis expected
>>29144004JESAS KOYORI
>>291440595k is still good for Star, right?
>>29144041he Z'd lol
>>29144059he'll be fine, the audience he's attracting is obviously different
>>29144196it's so simple
>>29144059His fault for playing zelda lol
Miko's rust POV has the highest VOD views.pegora what happen?
>>29144004>90kCome on anon
>>29144059His fault for streaming fucking Zelda
>>29144152disgusting leech
>Gura sick>Mumei sick>I'm sick>3 coworkers sick>sisters sick>like 5 people sniffling around me on my plane rideIs there something in the air in the States?
>>29144152I do get they know each other, but cant that leech stay away for a month at least?
>>29143300God, why? We get Vesper but to balance it out god sends his worst.
>>29144004HoloStars should be in another column.It's a different branch.
>>29144059Don't feel bad for him. He picked Zelda as his first stream.
>>29144383Yes. It's called COVID.
>>29144029>90k stream>Only 1k more above the rest
Time to prove how the Holobox works realtime.
>>29144383monkey pox.
>>29144230time is a flat circle.blue number member getting materials off of esl ID
>"Beating council debut easily">Can only break the sana line with ZAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHApathetic
>Ren ZottoHe has a 'Z' in his name, he deserved it
>>29144213So they hates the debuts as well huh
>>29143973APOLOGISE also 100k subs
>4ch and 5ch Homos thrivingMirror?
>>29144456what's that?
Looks like holofags have no right to complain about nijisanji anymore where the males are doing better than the female. Cause the same shit is happing in hololive.
Mag 12K
>>29144059Blame management for letting him play Zelda + letting him stream during the debut rush.
>>29144213MAGGED
MAG 12K
How much subs kaela got after this unplanned collab? I remember moona got a fucking 5k from rapisurazuri give me moment
"oh 100k... thats cool..."magni is not our # bro....
MAGLORD 12K DOOORRRRRYAAAAAAAAAAA
Why does HoloEN never use the raid function?
>>29144316She's the one that got bullied a lot
>Oh, 100k? That's coolMagni isn't one of us...
>>29144555Yo, post a screenshot of the 5ch reaction to the Z
MAGNI HATES NUMBERS
>>29143755Majority of their audience are still from holoen retard, holostarsen just started, you don't expect massive new audience are you?
>>29144213And he's right
>>29144569stay mad voxkek lmao
>I cried like a bitch watching councilrys 3DMaggy...
So let me see if I understand this.Somehow the 30k people in the watchalong stream "doesn't count", and only the views on the actual debut stream count. So even though 110k people watched the debuts, the "number" is only 80k?
uh /#/....
NUMBER BROS MAGNI HATES US
>>29143300Reddit and Vespie really put them to work eh
>the numbers game is a dangerous game to play in content creationbros...he hates >us
HE HATES US
>>29144213HOLY RENT FREE
is it wrong to hope that stars finnaly have hteir breakthrough with EN?
>>29144213>who cares if our debuts were awful, they did better numbers than tempus, making /#/ seethe is the best thing ever
>Magni is literally talking about this threadkek
>numbers is a dangerous game/#/ bros...
>>29144004Why does Nijisanji insist on these laughably autistic names? I can't imagine that they're good for branding.
>>29144569HoloEN is lazy but they still mog everyone out of the water.
He hates our numbers...
>The place where the numbers matter? That's not the place you wanna beHE HATES THIS THREAD
>>29144547>gets 100k subs>disregards itYeah, Maggy was never NijiCN material.
>>29144059I swear he topped 6k for a minute
>>29144569I don't dislike the nijimales because they're male but because they're shit>>29144684yes tourist that's how it has always worked
Magni hates us....
>The number game is a dangerous /#/ bros ... I mean, he's correct, just look at Niji ...
MAGNI IS NOT A NUMBERBRO LET'S GO
>>29144004you missed uproar from the hololive jp column
Maglord said this is not the place to be....bros he hates us...
What I've learned this last 2 days is that people can shit on Cover's management for being completely useless but their recruitment team is fucking miles ahead all the other companies
>>29144059Numbers said it time after time. Cover should get guys that appeal to guys. Leave fujobaiting to Nijisanji.
GET MAGGED /#/!!!!
>>29144775based... but I am here forever
/#/ BTFOMAGNATION RISES AGAIN
NUMBERCHADS MAGNI IS CALLING YALL OUT
Mag is dissing # and niji>A place where you care about numbers is not the place where I want to be
numberbros... we're not magpilled...
/#/ on suicide watch
UHHHH BASED?
Why does the mag hate us bro..
>>29144383Monkey Covid
MAG SHAT ON THIS GODFORSAKEN THREAD LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>29144230leeching off Pekomoon
>>29144059He chose his fate.
FUCK HES SPERGING
>>29141536Anon, Kobo IS the real Gura killer that people's been waiting for
>>29144684Exactly
The numbers were all I had
Just tuned into Magni, genuinely a breath of fresh air. They really found some good talents for this EN gen.
OH NO NO NO NO NO NUMBERKEKS
>>29144813>yes tourist that's how it has always workedFirst of all, that's absolutely not true. I was here for the Noctyx debuts, and people were absolutely adding the two numbers.Second of all, it doesn't make SENSE to do it that way. It's the wrong procedure
>>29144846It's actually a good sign that the talents are not pushovers
>>29144812I dont even watch that homo, rent free.
Gonna laugh if Omega suspends Magni
>not even close to recovering from the Znice bots
The only way you know about this thread enough to shit on it is if you've read it before. Don't forget magni, you're here forever.
getting kind of tired of these StarsEN guys mentioning the girls so casually I guess talking about Sana makes sense considering what's happening, but I hope they avoid doing it in the future
>>29144230They suprisingly have a very good chemistry
>>29144687>>29144703>>29144708>>29144736>>29144749>>29144769>>29144812>>29144822>>29144823>>29144836>>29144856>>29144866>>29144870>>29144875>>29144877>>29144911>>29144929And here I was thinking he couldn't be any more based
>MagStars are bigger than unsharked HoloENHahah faggots that didnt believeHAHAHAHAHAHAH
13k hands
>>29144569Sure thing anon, some debut buffed barely above 10k streams are sooo impressive and indicative of who will dominate the branch.
>MAGNI 13kAIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>29144846always has been as far as personality is concerned.
MAG 13K
>>29144736You can't be serious
>>29144383Yea, the summer cold (aka, covid has now mixed into the general COLD pool, only a matter of time before everyone's caught it at least once)
>>29144004Don't be a lying nijinigger.
>>29145028Is this a shill post? The numbers thread is a den of hololive managers right, so of course there's all this shillposting
Maglord I kneel AAAHHHHHH
>>29145044Do you add up all the different streams in a collab to form one big number?
Based Magni. He deserves my sub
I laughed at magni just now, years of evolution only to be roleplaying as anime characters. That's a funny joke, but even more funny if you took numbers seriously when doing it. It's true, vtubing isn't meant to be taken seriously. He's a fun guy.
>>29144846Cover shows they CAN be good sometimes, which is why when they fuck up there's something to get pissed off overNijisanji has always been an abortion, so there's nothing but disappointment mixed with laughter
13K DOORRRYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
MAGNI I KNOW YOU'RE HERE. YOU CANNOT ESCAPE THE NUMBERS. YOU WILL BE HERE WITH US FOREVER
MAGLORD 13K DORYAAA
Is he fapping to Sonic drawing?
>>29144684How new?
>>29145144lets see in a month.
>>29144684We don't combine peaks here because that opens the door to all kinds of shenanigans
>>29145102Get used to it.
>>29145098Look like a jaw dropping guy
>>29145220>/#/ threads are den of Hololive managers>Magni hates /#/ threadsOh shit
>>29145192># is a dangerous game>is not a place (You) want to be
>>29144004Bro at least add an Asterisk for the Z. His real peak was 81k.
>>29145098looks like beevis or butthead laying down
>>29145255Anon, the way this works, people have both tabs open. They watch the debut, while listening to the commentary.Youtube only counts 1 view per person. So most of their views are counting for the first tab they had open, which is the watchalong stream. They are still watching the debut stream.
>>29145102LONDON?ONDON?
mag 13k
Small funnel from Gura to Mag, maybe 500-1000 ish vieewers
>>29144569Debut buff but we'll still see, I always believe in Maglord
>>29145466Anon stop copy pasting this cope, nobody cared the first time, I certainly don't care this time
>>29144684Retard why don't you get out here and go back to your thread?
MOST INFLUENTIAL THREAD
Did all the faggot spammer saplings turn into maggots?
>>29144004>no HolostarsJP>HolostarsEN in the same column as EN>Zotto at 90kSo many problems here
>>29145494>low tier shit streamer>trash model>get high views because of promotional meme campaign
>>29145392He just magged us all.Absolutely based
>>29144004>Putting a Z in the list. Nijikeks ruin any credibility they could have.
>im not doing a 24h>it's stupid who would do thatVoxxsister.. he is unto us..
>>29145615the power of meme magic
>>29145466No one gives a shit. They don't have people in the tab, they don't deserve those viewers to be counted
>shark stops streaming the minute the last debut endsTruly shameless
>>29145356Yeah if Suisei and Miko weren't streaming last night, Pekora would've gotten 150k for Rust
>>29144383yes but it would only infect nijimales
Lets be honest anons. If we became Vtubers, we wouldnt come back to this shitty thread.
>>29145552It's correct though.So is the numbers thread just hololive fanboy time? Or do you actually care about the numbers? I'm confused. The way people are shilling homos makes me strongly suspect this is just a hololive shill thread
EST IS WINNING
>bragging about scaring away the JOPslmfao
>>29145707Holo management mandated stream prease undahstand.
>>29145615>promotional meme campaignkys Anycolor marketing guyYour million dollar ads lost again morbius reskinned meme
Did Gura catch the Niji debut tourist?She just hit another 10k in subs in 4 days, while lack of streaming.
>>29145768Yes because everyone here would be a 2view shitter.
How many viewers did council get after debut on their first streams?Is homostars beating council right now ?
>>29145577it's a discord campaign
>shitting on management Based Maglord
>>29145768Fuck you, I'd totally come here just to post the most ridiculous rrats and bait and then give subtle supporting evidence for it on stream just to make schizos freak the fuck out
>>29145707ALL OUT WAR
>>29145774holoboard, holothread, go back to /lgbt/ if you don't like it.
>>29145834There was no relation to the morbius meme.
>>29145864they were in the 30k on their second stream
>>29145497Makes sense, it’s late in the day and Gura has and is now guaranteed the highest of unicorns in HoloEN.
>>29145851she's the only one in Myth that didn't cuck her fans
>>29145102Can't blame them, they've probably got mandatory cross-branch collabs coming up and Omega must be telling them that the EN boys and girls are just one group.
>>29144004The jump from holo gen4 to gen5 is amazing.
>>29145744Case in point
>>29144004so what is the expectation of this debut in average ccv or median ccv? passing all HoloID not named Kobo in the coming months?
What the fuck, why is the HoloStarsEN experience much better than I though?Magni is a straight-up bro
Magni is really candid, actually probably a little dangerously candid. I'm entertained.
>>29145577im still here, ive been tracking the subs pre and post debut stream i kinda forgot to do Ren Zottos though since Magni started streaming
is Maria voice changer?
>>29145930A-are you me? Or the thoughts in my head leaking out?
So, where's the supposed mogging of Council debut by ILuna?
>>29145967>he doesn't know
>>29145707why so butthurt?
>>29146051Remember that image about girls thriving beneath rules? Applies for boys too.
>>29146073What did he say?
>I don't want to try I just want to play games talk shit and collect money Honestly fuck Magni. Noir and Axel are the last hopes for me.
>By the time he finished streaming an hour, he could probably reach the tutorial. Nice game idea, regis.kek magni
>>29145961So you're fine with misinterpreting the numbers, misinterpreting the data. Biasing your conclusions, openly fanboying. So you're literally just admitting this is the hololive shill thread>go back to /lgbt/Kind of ironic post from a magni fan, huh?
>Magni is a Vox killerI hope HolostarsEN can keep this up and scare the lazy whores to level up their game
>I only draw to get Twitter cloutthis nigga lmao
>>29145774Who are you to come here and try to change how we do the tally? Also, are you fucking aware that if you combine peaks, your precious nijisanji won't ever won a single gold again?
>>29145864From all evidence, Holos drop to about 1/4th their debut numbers on their second stream, then drop down another 1/4 to reach their new floor. So Magni's floor is probably somewhere around 3k now, going by holostandards.
>>29144267anything above 1k is success for Stars
>>29144213They have the gold good lord that entire wave is a dumpster fire.
>>29145915He'll play along, but he's going to mag on them every chanceI'm going to assume he didn't mean to shit on Kayla and Koyori though (long stream stuff)
>>29146104The flip sabotaged the bots
How are Iluna's post-debut subs stacking up to council and holox?
>>291458644 out of 5 were in bewteen 20k-30k, Kronii was an outlier and had 39k
>>29146073Unironically will be fantastic for some more behind-the-curtain looks when he forgets to filter anything about management.
>>29145967>He doesn't know
>>29146200>Shat on lore>Shat on kayfabe>Shat on Regis' game choice for his first streamand that's just the stuff I remember from like the last 5 minutes
>>29146238>try to change how we do the tally?because your method of "doing the tally" is blatantly incorrect. And I explained why. It's also not how the tally was historically done.
>>29145851Nah, likely the heavy GFE plus a general summer buff if anything.
Yeah Vesper is a better talker. Magni has composure but the flow is all over the place
So holostar is more popular than holo en in less than an day. This actually kinda sad magi is beating both ame and mori. Holostar en killed hololive en sadly.
>>29146238Well I mean they might, if more than half of Hololive don't stream.
What the fuck is Ame doing? Why is she trying to reduce her numbers? At this point she can become a 3view by the end of the year.
>>29146363>It's also not how the tally was historically donewhat
>>29146218Hemagged.jpg
>>29146370Does doing GFE in members effecting subs from outside?
>>29146399Not Gura tho.
>>29146005as long as they don't involve the girls I like I don't care
>>29146340It was the blacked meme from /pol/ that they put magni's face onto. The idea that it's the "morbius meme" comes from a reddit screenshot of some random ass person who doesn't know anything
>>29146383Magni is a memer but Vesper is zatsu king of EN
>fond with maglord I KNEEL
>>29146383He’s more used to scripted content so I’m not surprised
>>29146363Then go make your own, no one's stopping you.
>>29146556Magden Lord.
>>29146104The most popular prediction was always 70-80k solo and that they'll beat 94k if you add the watchalong, because multi pov is always a bigger number in the end, and it was basically spot on.The debuts themselves weren't good, but pretending that the numbers today are bad for NijiEN is just weird.
>>29146475that is just the classic debuffson
>>29146370so members that aren't subbed?? doesn't really make sense
>>29146383Magni is a step lower beneath Vesper on the Zatsu tierlist, but he's still good
>>29146477In the previous nijisanji debuts, it was always the case that the watchalong stream added to the total from the debut streams. Because that's the rational way to do this, and find out how many people watched the debuts.
>>29146520>He doesn't knowlurk moar newfag
>>29146363the fuck is this shit?
RIP HoloEN.
https://twitter.com/sakuramiko35/status/1551385825895915520Miko announcement later, probably about her 4th anniversary on August 1.
>>29146073it'll become an issue if he's candid with the hologirls. I foresee alot of vt hate should he be so.
>>29146017When you see it, it is insane to me how some fags act like the holoexplosion was because of Myth.Like it had already started months and months before their debuts
>>29146363Fuck off tourist!
>>29146520yeah doesn't everyone know BLACKED.COM's famous tagline, "IT'S BLACKIN' TIME"
>>29146647Nobody in this thread made any predictions about what the numbers would be if you add the watchalong, we don't do that here tourist. But yes, their debut numbers were good as expected.
SONIC OC INCOMING
>>29146763kek
>>29146647They're actually 30k less than they appeared because of bots though. Like, we fucking have concrete evidence this time dude, it's fucking 30k bots
>>29146689No he's not. He's a low tier streamer that was collected from the bargain bin. The same place they found his model.
>>29146383Magni is the comedian he will get a lot of clips
>>29146383He is trying hard to hide his power level
>>29146220Has Vox ever gotten 13k on a non karaoke stream?I think they are bigger than Luxiem
>>29146360He kind of shat on the game choice but was more so shitting on the 1 hour limit saying "Regis can barely beat the tutorial in that time"
>>29146694no it wasn't stop making shit up, if that was the case then the tally would have totals from stuff like the holo mario kart tourney which it never did
>>29146500It got some people talking and it got some eyes on her I guarantee you, but I also said “If anything”. She’s always managed fairly heavy growth, she’s got a deathgrip on the algorithm. Hell the duolingo stream is still getting recommended.
>>29146647>adding watchalongfuck you
>>29146733graduation
>>29146851
>>29146363FUCK OFF TOURIST!What kind of shit take is this?
>>29146943Oh yes it did. I was there. You are the newfag
>inclining to 14k making Sonic OCmaglord....
>>29146851Sister why you get uppity again? You got your big numbers and you beat tempus
>>29147011An hero birdkun
>>2914586430k-ish iirc, stop putting up Holostars to en girls, don't get distracted by the fact Vox is getting Magged kek
So it's confirmed that they were botting? I mean, how else do you explain this?
The reaction from NijiEN6 debuts seems milder compared to Tempus. What happened? NijiEN6 had bigger numbers, right?
>>29147035Post the archive then
>>29147035baffling post
>>29146694tourist, you can cope and seethe here while we laugh at you, or you can go and make your own numbers thread and do it your way. Your choice.
>>29147035Prove it. The nijicope list is waiting for your 'evidence'
>>29147119are you a retard
MAGLORD 14K DOOORRRYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>29147119she was lagging to absolute shit
Guess Gura's back to her weekly 10k ticks
>>29146247It's kind of hard to guess Maggy's floor since this is basically a trial-by-fire stream with all the Holo overlap and Niji debuts.
>>29147119Did she fix her connections at the end?
That's fine and all but what was everyone's peak CCV like?
Guys, I'm starting to feel that interns come here to steal data to claim they compose it themselves at the next company meeting.
>>29146685>People see everyone freaking out about the maid RP>Decide to sub (and maybe member) to see what the fuck the buzz is aboutFollow?
>>29147035
14k getDude is SO chaotic. It’s the perfect stream debut
>>29146802People did, it was just a no brainer because if you added Alban's number with the watchalong, they were already at 88k last debut so getting a couple more thousand was inevitable. Ofc we don't do that because adding POVs is dumb, but it was an accurate prediction.
>>29147035Fuck off newfag
>>29147035>Checks>Peaks are just what show up on vrabi, not some combined numbers alchemy for the tallyLying nigga, the only useful thing combining peaks (AT ONE MOMENT IN TIME, SO NOT COMBINED HIGHEST) is to see what the total viewer capacity of an EVENT is, but the highest number on the tally is only ever a SINGLE stream. Now fuck off.
>>29147126Bots can't post here. Silly anon, we have a captcha
>>29147133So according to you, the 30k people in the watchalong stream "don't count" because....uhhh....they just don't ok. It's tradition or something
>>29147126Debut numbers only matter one day, they're all so bad they're never going to make the regular tally let alone ever get EN gold
>>29147235ogey
>>29146850Oh yes the legendary Niji bots.
>>29147126twitter people
>>29147119Also, the fact that she had minimal difference in unique chatters despite lower viewership.
>>29146818>Stand black blondie, I'm gonna BLACKED
HOLOLIVE EN OWAKON DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>Nijisisters lying and get uppity againWas the debut that bad?
>>29147319Baffling post
>>29147319apply yourself already you retard nigger
>>29147284ok anon. Look at this picture. How many people watched the debut?Those 35k people just "don't count" because...uhhhh...idk they just don't somehow
>>29147119Lag you fucking retard. Spike with Ren was chinese VPN same as with Luxiem.
>>29147319They don't count for the tally?YES, THAT'S HOW IT ALWAYS IS!IT WAS THAT WAY WITH THE TEMPUS DEBUTS, THAT WAY FOR NOCTYX, THE SAME FOR EVERY 'WATCHALONG' STREAM. We work with what nonsense numbers youtube gives us for the tally, hence why raids and Z peaks go on there AS IS.
>axel with only 700 waitingman escap simulator is such a shitty game should have gone for thief simulator
>>29147319Did we count 130k Rust kino yesterday? No we didn'tkys newfag
>>29147337Dude, Pekora mogs Salome in that image, why bother posting it
>>29147369>x.30 slot why
>>29146316Damn Kronii was an actual monster, only if she keep that up....we could've gotten second Gura
>>2914736990k Nijiviewers doko?
Anon, just shut the fuck up, you are annoying
>>29147126For /here/ or outside? Tempus was always going to be more warmly received here than Nijis and it helps that they're actually good.
>>29147200>>29147345Bad connection doesn't explain the lack of recovery.
Is Magni also a La Creatividad?
>>29147431yes, all 6 of them it's a miracle
>>29147200>lagging for a bit results in 30k people disappearing into the ether and magically reappearing for the next stream
Nijitranny are getting uppity I see
>29147035Why the are fuck are you respond to this retard?
>>29147479Are you blind?
>>29147319>>29147319Just create a new tally and call it BOX TALLY for multi-pov events.
>>29147441FOR THE TALLY YOU RETARDED NEWFAG NIGGER!THE TALLY IS -DIFFERENT- than 'Probable total numbers watching'. HOW IS THIS SUCH A DIFFICULT THING TO UNDERSTAND?!
In the end, debating about whether NijiEN botted their debuts or not is a little pointless at this juncture. The proof is in the pudding.If their debut viewership is legit, it should be reflected in their post-honeymoon CCV average. So come back in 2-3 weeks, and if they're Council-tier, then their streams were legit.
funny thread.
>debut numberfaggingWhy don't nijifags ever learn?
>>29146399They are more popular than holoen and nijien combined, actually crazy
>>29147126And Pippa gets more hype and posts on /vt/ than half of council but that doesnt mean she is actually bigger than half of councilThis is the normiest vtuber gen ever put to debut. It is so far from the audience /here/ that it can be, so going by /vt/ hype is retarded
>>29147601>2-3 weeksTry 2-3 days
>>29147452See >>29147546
>>29147606I like you, gura poster
>>29147366Some nijifriends love their schizo revisionism.
https://strawpoll.com/polls/XOgOJ5G3Qn3Combining Total CCV, yes or no
>>291475472nd incoming of Kiryu Cocock (not Kson, but Kiryu Cocock)
>>29147011Nui's
>>29147235Sure thing, tourist.
They need to be managed so they dont end up like La Creatividad
>>29147510AAAAAAA OUR WHORES AREN'T STREAMINGNIJIFAGS HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN TO US
>>29147479Anon... Salome's streams are shorter and her VODs are higher than Pekora's. Are you blind or did you think those Raw Danger VODs are streams and not premieres?
>>29147461>THAT'S HOW IT ALWAYS IS!incorrect>IT WAS THAT WAY WITH THE TEMPUS DEBUTSHololive only started doing "debut watchalongs" to copy nijisanji this year. Nijisanji has always done them. >THAT WAY FOR NOCTYXincorrect>We work with what nonsense numbersYoutube only assigns 1 view per person. People have both tabs open, and the views are assigned randomly. That's why there's a large viewer total on the watchalong stream. It's people watching the debut stream, who have the other tab open at the same time.
>>29147694Stream never recovered. She was lagging til the end.
>>29147710lol
>>29147698
>>29147720You mean Coco Kaine (male form)
>>29146399>>29146504>>29147655is this the new niji shitposting angle? pretending debut buff streams are indicative of permanent popularity? I guess Fungus was also "more popular than EN" day 1 with his 12k stream huh?
Is this guy a actual holofag before joining homoen
>>29147777Anon stop responding to me. We have fucking eyes, Salome is way below Pekora
Magni's great at tard wangling his chat.
I missed niji debut. How's their number and are their 1st week schedule good?
>Horrible debut>Start schizotimeloopingPathetic display Nijitrannysis
>>29147369What the fuck is going on with Ame?Is she going to be the new Sana when she graduates? Jesus
>>29147441different channel. yes, they are watching the same people, still TWO DIFFERENT CHANNELS.
>>29147601>So come back in 2-3 weeks, and if they're Council-tier, then their streams were legitOr it could just be Niji tourism rearing its head. But that's a standard to set I guess, their debut numbers were close to council so it'll be interesting to see how they compete with HoloEN instead of StarsEN
>>29147710
>>29147601What's stopping them from botting other streams too? It's not like this is something new.
>>29147623you'd think they would have learned with the noctyx debuts
>>29147126nijiCN has the same audience as nijiJP now, its all twitter trannies who dont actually watch streams
>>29147854yep
>>29147601Only retards think they're actually botted. It sucks that /#/ was taken over by idiots.
>>29147812ok why don't you link some tallies from the archive with added up multi pov events, should be simple to do
>Mag already telling his chat to not bothering other peopleGood, good, he know his stuffs
>>29147710Nijiniggers...this is pretty shameful
>>29147812Answer me retard, did yesterday 130k combined ccv of Rust stream made it into the tally?
>>29147710kys
that's an obvious bait anon, don't bite
>>29147946Or Salome.
Okay, the more Magni streams, the lower I have to kneel. This guy, along with Vesper, are so based.
>>29147985So you agree that they should have Council-average CCV in 2-3 weeks?
>>29147857OK blind retard
>>29147903The watchalong stream is having dubbed commentary of the debut stream. People have both tabs open.So I am watching the watchalong stream. My 1 view is counting towards the watchalong stream. Then the debut starts, and I open that stream in a new tab. My 1 view is STILL counting for the watchalong stream, even though I'm literally watching the debut stream.There were 115k people watching the debut in total.
So why do we have the nijishill trying to change how the tally's done now? Did something happen in the debuts, other than the bots and the Z?
>>29147551Just checked the catalog and jesass..
>>29148039Must be a leddit regular
He's talking about the magging thing right now
Nijis can keep their gold today nothing is worth that garbage of a Wave in the long term.
>>29147812Neck yourself, shitposter.
>>29148124see >>29148052Never bring this up again.
>>29148039so will the niggers in here listen and go spam in their thread and stop tribalfaggin here.
>>29147854Unironically yes.
The real answer is that the niji debuts only had 10k viewers, all the others were bots
LMAO MAGLORD IS CALLING OUT THE NIJINIGGERS!!!
>>29147985>can't explain the zero recovery for the rest of her stream>o-only retards think they are botspathetic
>>29148136horrible debut all aroundSo yeah, nijitranny are doing damage control>Can only breach Sana line with ZHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
BROS, I THOUGH THIS IS ALL A COVER PSY OPS?
https://youtu.be/8IQ03UU8qKURen dropped the song
>>29147883Huge difference compared to the civil thread yesterday during and after Noir's debut.Shit chuuba = no discussion = shit threadGood chuuba = actual discussion = good thread
>>29144975>Anon, Kobo IS the real Gura killer that people's been waiting forWhere is her 120k karaoke?
>>29148119You think a debut needs to have 20% retention rate for it to be proof it's not bottled?
>>29148356Yes.
>>29148300Her internet was fucked for the whole stream and the same 70k people ended up showing up for Ren's debut anyways.
>>29148352Noir is a low tier shit streamer in a low tier shit model.He has lots of hololive managers and shills trying to meme him and promote him. But what you're watching is literal garbage
>>29147710it doesn't matter what the poll says sis... the tally has never, and will never 'combine ccv'.
>>29148469noorchama...
>>29144975Kobo is very strong, but she's still not a match for Gura.
>>29148348should have been a holostar
>>29148488Retard...The poll literally says 'combining CCV is retarded'
>>29148348Didn't ask.
>>29148300I think you're really retarded, which is the norm for the "numbers" thread
>>29147812>HUR DUR I'M A DUMB TOURIST SHITPOSTER WHO CAN'T EVEN BACK IT UP BY PULLING UP A TALLY THAT USED COMBINED NUMBERSKYS
btw, im watching towa play this new game and the pve is literally just EDF but with dinosaurs and better graphics, doesn't look like a number magnet
>>29148469If Magni is garbage then what is Ilium? Dried-up cum?
>>29148356Why would Nijisanji specifically fail to convert tourists when Hololive clearly can?Anyway, it's a waste of time to debate this too much. We'll see in a few weeks. Frankly, you can't talk people into being impressed with Iluna's Council-tier debuts if they don't convert into Council-tier fanbases.
MAGNI I KNEEL
At least do it like Lapchan if you want to Z
>>29148356Nah, I understand that Nijisanji (who is known for paying to get views in their songs and is a secret to no one) also has a special kind of audience which doesn't chat, stay in the waiting room, funnel, check other streams, refresh when the stream goes down or show any kind of human behaviour
>>29148352notice how they started shitting on Noir by talking about dead air - they are afraid
>>29148588Too big for Yagoo to saviourfag
kronii magged, holy shit
jesas blue korean homo is getting bullied by the other boys for being a gay ass faggot kek
>>29148469>He has lots of hololive managers and shills trying to meme him
>>29148605nice argument nijikek, why you don't go back to your hugthread? clearly being here is too much for you
>>29147854Yes.Mostly JP stuff iirc, but yea he was a holofag.
Magni my sides
>>29138427doesn't matter; are they actually entertaining as streamers.
I just can't see any of the new NijiENs haveing any kind of numbers. Like what is their audience? Scarle the coomerbaiter is doing fujo sistuber streams the two femboys are tiktok tweens, one of the girls is like SJW as her brandLike all of these will be 3views within a few weeksThe only two that I can see having any kind of viewership is Ren, he could best case scenario get Luxiem numbers I guess. And Maria if she gets her shit together could be a 2-4k chuuba like the top NijiEN females
>>29148633Magni is literal trash. His horrifically designed model caused people shock upon sight. And so the hololive shill squad swooped into save him by turning him into a meme. This was a huge astroturf campaign to "help out" what they saw as an incredible disaster on their hands.
Fucking hell Maglord took no prisoner
>>29148707Did we count the Z peak for this btw?
>>29148757>reminder nijikeks believe that Cover both doesn't care about the stars and yet is relentlessly shilling them
>>29144975It's... it's okay, anon. I've given up. Nothing can kill the shark. She's too strong.
>>29148707its uncanny how it matches it.
>>29146050in 3 months there'll be another new wave anyway
>>29148591i didn't even bother looking cause its utterly irrelevant kek.
We can call wave 6 a council tier if they actually managed to beat council's first week debut buff streams otherwise they are just nijibots hype gen alongside nijijp's new gen
>>29148813Why are you here posting about this stupid shit in the numbers threadWe talk about fucking numbers here
>>29148761She was having internet problems during the stream you dumbshit. You say "how can anyone explain that hurr durr" you sound like a fucking idiot
>>29148813So Cover has a very good marketing team?
>>29148832Some did, some notEven if we didn't it still wonAnd beating fuwa's number by 11
Magni is going to be force graduated, he is too based
>>29148658>Why would Nijisanji specifically fail to convert tourists when Hololive clearly can?Because they're not as entertaining? Debut numbers are just how big the brand has grown, retention depends on the streamer's own ability.Sana had a much bigger debut than Myth but her retention was shit because she was a bad streamer and got cursed with the worst luck.
>>29148813meds
bros Magni is gonna get graduated he's unhinged LOL
>>29148832the usual daily tally anon always counts them
>>29148764based true Hololive and not sidebranch enjoyer
>>29149002Will he join Vshonen?
>>29149002So you've never watch Astel huh
>>29148813>literally doesn't understand how meme magic worksGuess it's hard for insects without culture to understand memes.
>>29148798If anything, they will have a shared fanbase with tempus.
>>29148996They have a retarded fanbase that is convinced into watching pure shit through simple advertising techniques. There's some actual GOOD vtubers out there worth watching. This guy, with this model, is a dime a dozen. There's thousands of vtubers better than this
RAIDING AXELILLEGALTHIS IS ILLEGAL
This Magni stream is a little weird, like it sounds like he already wants to buck Cover's streaming standards Mori-style except it's literally his first day on the job. He's one to keep an eye on for sure.
>redirecting to axel
>magni redirecting to axelbased
AXEL 10k INCOMING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why is this damn thing still growing this much? I swear it was at 2.1M just a few weeks ago, it's actually accelerating.
>>29148462they just disappeared, they didnt even went to watch the watchalong
>>29148997>>29149045Yeah, I know it was counted for the tally and that it was the most watched 3d debut regardless the Z, but I'd like to know if the anon that saves the data about the most watched 3D debuts and those things counted it or not
>I'm gonna redirect to AxelBased
>>29149137
>>29149159Retard, Astel basically does this once a week
>>29149149is perfectly legalnice way to see retention
>I'm not gonna be like "I want to play this game, but it doesn't bring in numbers so I'll play this instead", I'll do what I wantholy based
Why the fuck is Maglord's chat so fast?
>>29149201Not gonna lie it's been recommended to me over 3 fucking times the last few months
So are Gura and Irys the only HoloEN girls that haven't mentioned or acknowledged the males yet?
So this is pretty good but still a debut buff. What I'm wondering is how much did Magni take away from Mori and Ame, if much at all
>>29149137>There's thousands of vtubers better than thisGive me ten
>/#/ seething for a month straight about raids>mag does it once and now raiding is basedHe is too strong Jesus
>>29149201I was watching some streaming from a JP Holo the other day who had less than 7k viewers (can't remember who) and I got redirected to that video for the 8th time. I even posted here about it
>>29149231The one good thing about these scheduled stream lengths is easy filtering from one to another.
>>29149216Probably counted with asterisk
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1551402139192553472https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1551402139192553472https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1551402139192553472
>>29149297Who?
>>29149149It's planned since they're all doing 1 hr streams. Retention will be hard becuase Axel is playing a debuff game.
>>29149379>things that never happened
>>29149373those are nomral ER for ame since guerrilla and i dont think she tweetedMori is ok, Stray is overplayed already.
>>29149408>the concept of hololive summer sooo it's a teaser first and then the real one later right ?
>>29148832There's been alot of griping about it, but the tally anon hasn't discounted any streams for any reason even that obviously botted Sara stream so
>>29149379People here were shitting on the niji debuts for not raiding properly wdym
>>29149408I will not by a single piece of merch until I see talents actually wearing swimsuits on stream
>>29149378Most indies have better models than this. And his personality is just an awkward japanese guy. You find a billion people like this on twitch, usually with about 10 viewers. He has no talent, no charisma, no particular reason to watch his streams. Other than the astroturf meme campaign designed to promote him
>>29148965Internet problem makes your viewers went to zero and then recovers, not minus 20k and then never recovers.
>>29149379This is the "correct" way to raid, unlike Uki "unarchived kpop karaoke into OW commentary" shit
oh hey it redirected
>StarsEN actually properly using the funnel and redirectWhy have the girls still not figured this out yet?
>>29149002He is still tame compare to astel and izuru having menhera breaks or shitting on cover every other week
>>29149137HRRRRTTTTTT> nooooo! help meeee
>>29149379we agreed it was a retarded boost for the median peaks, something nijiEN abusesholoJP literally hasn't used that functionholoEN barely uses it
>>29149359Mumei hasn't mentioned them yet, the most she's done is acknowleged that Tempus was a thing and they weren't going to overlap, without mentioning that they were males at all. Keep in mind this was while Holopro was still playing coy with what Tempus was despite everyone knowing
Man, even at Myth's height Pekora was still keeping up with Gura, and JP events/hype collabs were easily matching or surpassing Myth numbers.But what StarsEN is doing to StarsJP....that's no black ship, that's a black dreadnought
I'm just happy that Tempus debut actually give small boost to Uproar19.07 is his endurance until 61k subs20.07 is the Kobo collab23.07 Regis Magni debut24.07 Axel Vesper debut
AXEL 12K DORYAAA
>>29149556So you don't have ten
>>29149379There is a right and a wrong way to raid. Raiding into waiting room is good, raiding into a fucking ASMR is bad
>>29149076Fuck, that's actually a good idea I can see them doing in the future. Even the name fits.
>>29149201I'm still getting recommended this fucking stream, it's nonsensical. Yes, I watch lots of Gura, but 1. I've already seen this stream and 2. I'm not fucking Japanese, I'm not even the target audience.
>>29149373It looks more like they got existing fans who wouldn't watch either to watch other streams. Similar to how when Council debut.
>>29148832For the official tally? Always. No adjustment to numbers for the final full tally, that's how it's always been SPECIFICALLY to avoid any can of worms being opened up to 'adjusting' it.
>>29149379never happenedwas debated when ina & moom did it the first timewe just laugh at the retention rate on the constant retarded raids
>>29149137>its the fans fault that our marketing sucks brilliant
NIJISIS DONT LOOK
>>29148965oh if only there had been some kind of watchalong in the main channel were they could have watched till the next debut. Oh but hey there was one and it didn't go up despite 30k people leaving her stream and coming back just for the next debut, pls stop embarassing yourself nijikek
>>29149600raids are shit they ruin the monthly charts
>>29149359Kronii....
>>29148846>Cover bad. they don't give a fuck about the holostars!>Cover bad. They are wasting their money on shilling the holostars rather than helping the girls!I hecking love moving the goalpost
>>29149609>holoJP literally hasn't used that functionDidnt they do it for the gen 1 relay?
>>29149697This guy was a low tier streamer, hololive hired him from the bargain bin, but him in a shitty low-rent model. The only thing that propelled him was a massive meme campaign stirred up by hololive advertising team. You're being served shit on a plate, and being told it's steak
>>29149627That was clear from the start. Even if StarsEN absolutely plumments they'll still have better numbers than the JP branch
>>29149031im less worried about his rants against management, and more worried about if he starts doing this against the girls. That could really fuck him, deservedly so.
>>29149796Jesus, actually similar numbers of unique chatters. That's nearly damning
>>29149379This is the correct way of raiding. You end stream and redirect the viewers to someone who starting not someone who is in the middle of a fucking sc reading
>>29149556>You find a billion people like this on twitchAgain, give me ten
>/mag/ merged with tempus thread>the nijischizo back to shitpost here on full force
>>29149201Her birthday, probably.
>>29149796maglord's chatter ?
>>29149872Yes they did, ignore the raid schizo
>>29149891So you don't have tengood shit
>>29149556>can't even mention oneI accept your concession
>>29149862They don’t? There is an true average chart now too, you know?
>>29149894>more worried about if he starts doing this against the girls.You're braindead if you think this will happen
>>29149862It's almost as if streamers care more about cultivating an audience and growing viewership than about moronic horse races based on graphs or something
>>29149496A-anon.. i..
>>29149891>still haven't posted ten>just post schizo rants
>>29149354because THE MAGGGENING CANNOT BE STOPPED
>>29150014Nijischizos bitch about 'low stream number' to cope
>>29149373Probably pared away some of their less loyal viewers looking for something new and shiny.How well Magni holds onto them vs them going back to Mori/Ame?That's on them.
>>29149868>Cover bad because I hate itThis is the real reason
>>29149867Kronii mentioned them at the end of her SC reading yesterday.
>>29149862Unless they are Holo where the viewers STAY. Cant say the same for trannysanji
>>29150069let me huff them copium man, a man can dreami want swimsuit lui-nee so bad
>>29149894>Magni ignored numberfags in his chat going on about 100k so he could talk about how he cried during the council collab >I still think he's gonna shit on the girls though!
>>29150093What % of NijiEn watchers usually get the girls?
>>29149891so are you conceding that you cant find 10 tempusschizo?
>>29149862No one cares about the horse race here. If Gura does a karaoke stream and raids 30k people to Bae and even 1000 of them become Bae fans due to the exposure, it'll be worth it.
A bunch of people just got banned in /hlgg/, hopefully our schizo did too.
>>29149974Yes,basically a little above 50% of his audience chatted
Next thread will be better
why are the starsen boys ain't applying to nijien instead fuck, they'll get better number in nijien, why WHY are they applying to stars instead fuckk now we get all of these tier F streamers on iluna, and they'll get more numbers than my girls FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKK if i could pay bot, i would pay it to boost petra, my girlie is way more talented than these new recruits yet they'll get more numbers fuck i'm so pissed
Tell me about Maglord, why he mindbroken nijisisters so much?
>>29150174Not to mention his oshi is in sankisei, he knows better than to disturb the hornet nest
Gotta be honest, this Axel guy's gonna need to do some heavy improvement
>>29149600Stars are only on their first job doing whatsoever to boost each other, I don't think the girls need that. Only shameless nijien used it because they are all numberfags, stop pushing it.
>>29150290>Indonesiawhat the fuck
>>29150371do your reps. Maybe you learn why he's called fagni
>>29149891give us ten, not your nonsense opinion..why are you retard anon?
>>29149891ffs just give that anon your list of 10 vtubers
>>29150115All monthly charts have the “Ayame rule” of 5 or more streams to preempt just that
>>29150388Just let him sing and avoid solo streamings
>>29150260What for? I hope it was the group of people trying to forcefully merge /stars/ and /hlgg/, that shit is pretty annoying.
>>29150290
>>29150347Because they'd be forced into gay baiting.
>>29150388He was a literal 1 / 2 view, he'll grow into it.
>>29150053eh i prefer the funnels to raids, always showed how strong holo unity was and how people appriciated more than just their oshis
>>29150290ILUMA is the most overtly LGBTQ wave Niji has ever had. They were made to appeal to NA. Whether or not they'll retain viewers is still unknown.
>>29149600Raids doesnt work for most chuubas right now, like most NijiENs hasnt been able to raid since the 12th july and it is the same for a lot of smaller corpos too.So some HoloENs might literally not be able to raid even if the perfect opportunity was there and they wanted too
>>29150347Probably because NijiEN rejects low numbers like them.They miss gems like the Tempus boys just because they only see numbers and want to ACCELERATE
>>29150185from todayina 25%fauna 27%ame 21.5% gura 16.5%
Holy shit, NijiEN wave 6 is trending in Germany, Korea and ID. What is going on Holobros?
>>29150290>Ridonkulus_twitterlikes.jpg
>>29150347Niji = gayshit
>>29150453He feels a lot like Bae actually, it's like his presence is weak
>>29150053How do raids with 0 retention grow their audiences, friend?
>>29150174oh im hoping he doesnt, I like the guy, but I don't know him well. He says he has a sharp tongue bit hopefully he knows boundaries in who to roast.
>>29150290Indobro WTF!? you dissapointed me
>>29150435Give me 100 of yours.This is a debate tactic called excess request for information.Simply go on twitch, search for vtubers. Click 10 of the smaller view ones. Most of them will be about the same level of charisma as magni. Given that he literally is one of those people in the first place
>>29150347Quality over quantity.Maybe Nijisanji start treating their talents not like trash?
why are nijisister so butthurt? lmao
>>29150656That's... weird.
>>29150122Holyshit really? I just know she never retweeted anything
>>29150290>Never trending in indiaHow did niji india fail so much
>>29150535This is still indicated by retention following a redirect (or lack thereof, if you look at NijiEN's examples)
>>29150430
>>29150723>Can't give 10>ask for 100retard, the ball is in your hand
>>29150347Honest answer? If I had the skills to be accepted to either, I'd rather go Holostars just for:1)The possibility of my skill being the one to incline the brand. No way I'm giving more of an incline to Niji than Vox's Fujo pandering.2)Just don't want to have to deal with all these fucking niji collabs. Streaming 2-3 hours a day and then fucking off is the Holopro normal, but NijiEN are twitch streamers, always in some VC or some shit. I got a goddamn life. 3)I get to mating press Bae.
>>29150732Nobody is kneeling to or freaking out about Iluna so shitposting about it is less fun than expected for them.
>>29150347>not enjoying milord big numbersngmi niji bros
>>29150347Real talk, niji scouts are dogshitThey only see big subs number no wonder they miss gems like Vesper and Kobo
>>29150014True average is shit because it penalizes SC readings. Or just "post"stream zatsudaning in general. I hope quartile anon makes an site or something so you could use that because I truly think those are the best CCV mesurements. Removes Zs, removes retarded raids, but doesnt completely disregard peaks and punish SC readings
>>29150674It seems like the Tempus guys have had some time together to get to know each other. The bantz seem pretty natural. When talking about council its obvious he doesn't know them well and tried to speak respectfully about them. I would worry about it right now.
So the blue lad has the weakest first stream after debut eh?
>>29150732>picrel
>>29150535So long as the raid is while the stream is still in the waiting room, I don't see much issue with it. Its the raids into random ass streams that have very little relevance that always get under my skin.
>>29150174why is he talking about the girls rather than his senpais
How was Council numbers with debut buff
Oof. I guess he can't keep that Mag Raid up
>>29150957Also had the weakest first game selection, doubly so when limited to an hour.
>>29150957>zeldayesaxel could have been but got raided by magi
>>29150967how does he do it?
>>29150844>3)I get to mating press Bae.based
>>29150674Anon, he literally cried on council collabno way he's gonna shit on the girls
>>29150732Because the debuts were terrible and they had to bot hard just to beat the Sana line.
>>29150347They got rejected because 3/4 of them were 2views
>>29150957Playing zelda in one hour is a dumb move, hopefully he improves soon
>>29151009losing a few hundred in a raid is expected, he's holding up fairly well
>>29151009I aint watching that fagThe only fag that gets my views is magmeister
>>29150900There is a reason they were dogshit in their PL. They weren’t entertaining enough so Nijisanji doesn’t care.
>>29150122She did? What she say?
so far tempus 3/4 iluna 1/6
>>29150992true waiting room raids are much better i guess>>29150789yes but it buffs nijien way fucking more since holo would gain a portion of the raid anyway with the funnel, where as nijien gains a whole truck load of people that would have never clicked otherwise
>>29139542>on how entertaining they were during streamingthey scouted based on subs.
>>29150656The combination of feeling oppressed by strict asian parents and bogan cunts. The asian australian soul cries in quiet solitude.
>>29150789The times when I'm watching Petra/Millie and I get thrown around into Enna/Reimu drives me nuts. The personalities are too different and it feels like I'm more of a fucking nepotism viewer
>>29151008I remember Kronii having like 40k viewers on her frostpunk streams or something.
>>29151169Huh, then why is Kobo the undisputed queen of ID?Even smacking down milord from time to time?
>>29150674No way he shits on the girls, but he seems likely to mention them frequently. To be honest I already dislike his attitude.
The Bae comparison is actually pretty apt, this guy definitely gives me some Bae vibes solo. Just without the annoying habit of SCREAMING RANDOMLY
>>29150844Imagine tweeting the most banal thing an 1min later you get a fucking tweet from Nina trying to be the funny mom, I'd off myself
axel is definitely showing he is 3rd. Doesn't have the shops Noir and Magni have.
>>29151009Better than nijien raid retention for sure
homochad status?
>>29151351he is a himbohe would actually do well with fujosJust like Bae will do well and stil does well with gachis if she leaned more into GF territory.
>>29151340>Can't handle friendly bantzMaybe Ilama is more suited to your taste anon, they're inclusive after all
>>29151290Because NijiEN6 is going to aim at ID market dumbass. Look at the trending, Iluna is going to the moon in Indonesia.
>>29150723You are too deep in the meta-discussion that your original point may have been lost in the shuffle. Let me try to help refocus the discussion. Correct me if I misrepresented your point: you are affirming that Magni is not significantly a better streamer and does not have a significantly better model than any other random 2 views and that his numbers are mostly a product of being on the HoloPro roster. That’s your point right? If so, you’re not even wrong, you’re just too dumb and emotionally invested to articulate it properly. You seem to have a secondary point going too, that the reason for HoloPro numbers to be much higher than a random 2 views is astroturfing Cantonese catgirl forums and a marketing budget. Here you’re spilling your spaghetti, not only the enthusiasm for Hololive (and now StarEN) is organic but it papers over a very much deficient marketing effort by Cover. If not for memelords salvaging the whole thing with the magging, Tempus debut would have been disastrous
>>29151384enjoying the stream
>>29151009possibly culled. I saw him 12k watching after the waiting room. but he hasn't recovered yet.
I wonder if Holostars will perform better in the 2-4PM PST timeslots
>>29151340yea kinda worried about that. Imagine if he talks about discord chats he had with gura 'oops was i not supposed to talk abotu that?'
>raids are good>males are good>male collabs are goodOh how the mighty have fallen.
No matter how much this thread like to mock them Luxiem still get pretty absurd SC numbers. Like Vox got almost $60k on his 1 mil stream right? So I dont think to many are really sad about getting into NijiEN as a fag
>>29151473>NijiEN6>ID marketGood luck with that
>>29151473HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>29151370He should just take the gamer role.
>>29150732The new wave is the biggest train wreck yet:>Rosemi who can't sing>The blackest white gay boy on Omegle>Actual SJW capable of commencing the final yab>Twink who can't stop talking about about his bussy and has less testosterone than the women>Latina that can't speak Spanish, has shit internet, and plays nothing but Otome Visual Novels>1 actual talented person
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvMzdXxq-LE12k watching Maria cover premiere
Realizing that the game Axel picked isn't the best because of the low viewer interaction it has.
>>29151384Zotted
>>29150777>>29151187Nothing special. She had to end the stream because the watch along was starting. She said to support holostars.
people seem underestimated the power of meme..the fact that hololive gain power during 2019-2020 are because of meme, even tho they had shit number compared niji back then
>numbers are like the worstBros...
>man numbers are like the worstbros he hates us
AXEL HATES US
axel cant carry that game. Got bored and left, gonna watch some tower.
>>29151473yeah yeah, they will beat every HoloID right?
Wait, Nijiniggers trying to make “zot” their “mag”?
>>29149647It's only going to get better when the EN-JP collabs start
>>29151009that's almost near the waiting room peak. it's just verifying real slow
>>29151531i'm actually so fucking disappointed in this thread
how the fuck are people actually watching tempussy?based yagoo
>>29151586>That voicei cant really take this serious after listening the Holo's ones.
>>29151462It's not about bantz, I just don't want hololive to turn into the same shit nijiEN is. Just keep the boys and girls separated, surely that's not so difficult right? If I'm watching StarsEN I don't want to hear them talk about the girls every stream, and vice versa.
>>291516671 salome = 1 froggie1 koreone = 2.5 yubiyubi1 nijiEN girl = the pacman triangle
>>29151667Egyptian numberbros...
>>29151476>Correct me if I misrepresented your point: you are affirming that Magni is not significantly a better streamer and does not have a significantly better model than any other random 2 views and that his numbers are mostly a product of being on the HoloPro roster.He is a bargain basement streamer. Like the equivalent of an F-list actor from the local highschool. His model is one step above PNG tuber status. One of the ugliest and worst designed models I've ever seen, absolutely embarassing to put this out.He was getting a tremendous negative response when his model was released. So hololive decided to use their advertising to rebrand him as a "wacky memelord" character and stir up memes about him. It's an astroturf meme campaign. And now thousands of people are being convinced into watching literal shit, because of memes. When there's dozens of high quality people out there.A few weeks before Mysta Rias became one of the most watched EN vtubers in history, he was a tiny channel with a dozen viewers. He had real talent, which wasn't explored or appreciated, until he got promoted on a big stage.
>>29151489Nah I think people just bailed during the recovery period because Axel didn't start strong.
>>29150781india really doesn't care about anime or otaku culture at all
>>29151550>Coping with SC numbersIn decline
>>29151473I will shit on them when they got beaten by Kobo, okay?
>>29151586LA+ MOGGED
Everyone in StarsEN hates numbers, at this point I feel like that was a trick question by management on deciding if they would make it into stars or not.>Do you like numbers?>Yeah!>We'll call you back...
i think playing video games is a debuff for homoEN
>>29151782Absolute poison and abandoning your principles are worth it to own the nijinigs, apparently.
>>2915158615k now. StarsEN cover premieres were around 9k, but this is expected.Ren's orisong debut is probably going to get a pretty big number.
>>29151586Ow my ears.
>>29151586holy shit enna mogged
>>29151667>1mil is kneelingFucking kek
Sorry Axel but this game is a debuff. I like Axel but he seems like Bae where he really only shines in collabs. I was enjoying him a lot in the Tempiss collab.
>>29151753Nah, he's actually declining right now. He's just not that interesting.
>29151816>Mysta has talentlollmao
Retards keeps making me earn a free $1-2k selling after buying it at 5.8k yen
>>29151816
So, instead of enjoying streams, Nijifans shit up the thread to downplay Tempus?Why don’t you people praise NijiEN6 instead?
>>29151550Luxiem gets mocked for the shitposting and arrogance to come at hololive with their numbers. They are indeed the Myth of male vtubers.
>Towa 9k on a sponsor streamThis is pretty good for her, no?
you people are unironically watching homos, gave the whole "they're trying to build a community, they don't care about the graphs at the end of the month" spiel unironically, are defending raids now, you're gonna turn into fucking homobeggars in a monthjesus christ
>>29150781India is still 5 years behind in the internet culture. They only just discovered anime. Wait for the weeb culture to get it's roots first.
>>29151586a bit flat and the song track itself seems rather... low quality. But it isnt as bad as i thought it'd be for how much i really did not like her voice during debut.
>>29151473i'm going back to this in december, HoloID is a low bar and an ultimate weapon of mockery
>>29150915>True average is shit because it penalizes SC readings. It doesn’t, it just measures something different from median of peaks. Median of peaks represents the following statement>the number above which the peak CCV of a certain channel will be half the time It makes it easier to compare channels when there aren’t outliers (like artificially inflated peaks)True average CCV does exactly what it says in the tin: displays the average viewership of a certain channel. Any channel with long SC reading, long enough to affect the average clearly has SC reading as one of the main forms of content and it correctly reflects in the average.
>>29151960 (me)Nvm I'm retarded. He didn't even premiere it.
>>29152056>we
>>29151290>from time to timeYou mean everytime
>>29151816>He had real talenthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyLR51VM5ng
>>29151289They also didn't have the 1 hour time limit.
>>29151473lmaoo.. do you know why kobo popular? because she talk in indonesia language..indonesia are very weak with english to the point theres a big meme for that
>>29151816>When there's dozens of high quality people out there.Uhhh, why are you lowering your numbers?
>>29151808Fucking hell you're in too deep into the unicuckoldrySana is their immediate senpai you faggot, not just some random holomenI change my mind, maybe notRushia is mor to your taste, she's still doing GFE in twitch
>>29152126Right now, there are dozens of interesting and talented vtubers that you're missing out on, because you're numberfagging and worshipping hololive.
>>29151927Admiting to liking numbers on stream is not pretty good tho. Being numberfags just by stream content and schedule is actually much better.
>>29151839Sure but it could decline for like an year straight and I would still be happy about getting $10k in SC each month lol
>>29151927Hating numbers doesn't mean not caring about them though. If they really didn't care about numbers they wouldn't even mention them at all.
>>29151927If there focus is FIRST AND FOREMOST delivering entertaining content and being consistent streamers, the numbers will follow.If they can't deliver on those two points then it doesn't matter if they want numbers or not.
>>29152056Hey when Tempus becomes sub 3k shitters that cant even make the cripple Talley I'll stop talking about them. As long as they keep making the actual Talley ill talk about them.
>>29151586Seems okay but her voice filters me. Enna and Reimu stay unmogged.
looks like that 2view rimjob schizo anon is back huh
>>29151927Honestly a good strat for hiring for STARS
>>29151969Yeah he's bleeding viewers but it's not really all his fault, the game blows. If Axel is good at Apex, he needs to jump on that asap. Shu shows that if you're "good enough" then women will stick around to watch you click heads.
>>29151927I mean, it’s not necessarily a terrible choice if you’re talking about the homos. They might BTFO the JP stars but they’ll still never get Hololive tier numbers, so you’re better off with non-numberfags who have the potential to incline but don’t mind not inclining that numberfags who end up not inclining and screeching in anger.
We love Tempest here.
>>29152056ogey
>>29152190I'm sure you were also promoting Vox and Luca in a similar way as you are raving about Tempus right now. Because you just care about the numbers, right
>>29151808>If I'm watching StarsEN I don't want to hear them talk about the girls every stream, and vice versa.The girls will probably never talk about guys, and vice versa. Sana is mentioned because she's literally graduating.
>>29152177iluna?
>>29152183lolam resident of /vsinger/, >we shill 1 views
a bit over an hour since the debutsthe hierarchy hasnt changed much, scarle and zotto leading pretty hard. Kyo and Aia fairly behind Maria comfortably in the middle and Aster erring towards the top 2
>>29152019>So, instead of enjoying streams, Nijifans shit up the thread to downplay Tempus?They thought they would be even more of a flop than Noctyx was. They are now afraid because that didn't happen.>Why don’t you people praise NijiEN6 instead?There's almost nothing to praise.
>>29152315Luca yes, not Vox.
>thousands>billions>dozensJust give me ten goddammitOr are you a groomer that doesn't want to share?
>>29151927First of all, it's stars. Number expectations are low as fuck pre-debut.Second of all, being a blatant numberfag is pathetic, especially when you can't get numbers.
Oh hey, rimjob 2viwes schizoanon is back
>>29152177alright, give me 12 and i'll look
>Magni is a SHIT streamer with SHIT model, his big numbers is FAKE because the shit meme Cover shill paid for.I don't even watch Magni or the other boys but seeing the schizo mad at the starsEN mild success is pretty entertaining
>>29152415All I need is one, Mysta, a way better streamer than your shitty Tempiss.
>>29152440Not enough mention of Yagoo's hairy anus, i'm not convinced that's him
>>29151821he's just not as good as carrying a convo as magni, and the game is a bore and he's not a wizz at it. Maybe if he'd built a rapport after a few weeks I would have stayed, but i dont feel that much for the guy, so I got bored and left.
>>29152084Sure but that isnt how it is used in this thread. It is used for horse racing and zero context is afforded.If two identical streams happen but one ends it the second the game/karaoke ends and the other reads superchats for 30min, the stream that just ends it will have a higher true average.And that will be used in this thread as a sign that the first one is the more popular streamer, while every other viewership metrics is exactly the same
Hold up, Axel is back to 9.5k, he's not giving up
>>29152362Poor Scarle got passed by Ren with his original song and unscuffed debut. To be fair, I think Scarle had a pretty filtering debut with her blatant fujoing and connection issues.
>>29152177Nah, my whoretuber is literally too embarassed to try and join a corpo.
>>29152177So where are these ten interesting and talented vtubers you're talking about? I'm still waiting for you to list them down.