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A thread for the discussion of the surefire sheriff, Mori Calliope, and the members of her extended universe.

>> No.28985141
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Beaten by my second guessing of Japanese grammar yet again!

>> No.28985183

She needs to cool it.

>> No.28985186

Project Wingman next week yea?

>> No.28985196
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I.....I.......

>> No.28985227

>>28985141
Why don't you just have it saved

>> No.28985232 [DELETED] 

>indog collab
>shit thread
Predictable

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The kind of father Mori is going to be

>> No.28985255
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Miss.....my.... Moririn UuuuuuUuuuuuuu!!!!!!

>> No.28985280

>>28985196
You have [̴̡̨̠̫͙̱̯͍͚̖̭͗̄̆̓̿͛̔̇̐T̵͙̩̐̊́̽͐̾̀̇̇̎̕͜h̸̛̙̬̙̰͍̬͓̼͈̹̤̊̉͊͗̀̈́e̶̡̧̼̰̋͌̈̑̚ ̸̹͓͍͈̰̯͇̪̪̜̞̱͔͆ͅḟ̶̛͇̀͋̔͂͑̋͛̄͊̔̄̏͘ų̴̛͉̤̹͇̘̻̖̩̗̜̗͐̄̾̈́̄͜c̷͙̼̉̃̓̒̈́͊̒͂̀̎̕͠k̵̡̛̹̱̬͎̹̟͎̮̳̬͍̘͍̒̉̌͊̾̀́̽͝ ̶̡̧͓̺̦͓͔̉͊̊̀͛͜i̷̡͈͈͔͂̈͌̋̓͂̈́͂̔̀͑̊͘͘͝f̸̘̰̠͉̼͗ ̴̤́̉̎̍͒̃͘͘͝Ỉ̷̙̠̹̪̯̪͇͕͍͈̱͉̰͙̃͝ ̸̨͈̈́̓̏̀̕̕k̸̠̼̟͍̱̟̙̩̗̪͚̱̥̜̿̈́̋̈́̎͋̍̏̇̐̓͆̀͑͘n̵̢̛̠̟̖̮̠̥͍̱̋͗͂͐̒ó̸̡̜̜͇͍͈̞̺̘͑͘̕͜͝ẁ̵̛̬̈́̆́̔͒̀͆͋́̇͘͝ͅ]̷̡͚͈̫̖̝̄͂ hours left, you can make it

>> No.28985291

>>28985186
Dear god no, she's gonna use mouse controls and I don't think I can keep myself from sperging when that happens

>> No.28985307
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I FUCKING LOVE KAWAIIOPE MORIRIN AND I WANT TO MARRY THIS DORK, START A FAMILY WITH THIS DORK, AND RAISE A SON WITH THIS DORK, A SON WHO’LL INHERIT OUR RESPECTIVE BEST TRAITS AND ATTRIBUTES BUT IS ALSO JUST AS MUCH OF A DUMB CHUUNI AS HIS BEAUTIFUL DORK OF A MOTHER

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>>28985087
Previous thread: >>28962889

//// Mori Calliope Ch. hololive-EN
YT: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCL_qhgtOy0dy1Agp8vkySQg
Twitter: https://twitter.com/moricalliope
#calliolive #callillust #callioP #callilust
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/1PhE6rv0146ZTQosoPDjk8

//// Team Calli – EMI Records Japan (Universal Music Group)
Twitter: https://twitter.com/calliope_info
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@moricalliope_hololiveen

Most recent stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLGRGjPu_Yc
Upcoming stream: _(:3」∠)_

//// Music: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLB8Nt5W7hnKA_pG2qljWbgVmJPobrLTm4
DEAD BEATS (September 12, 2020) EP: https://moricalliope.streamlink.to/DEADBEATS
Your Mori (April 4, 2021) EP: https://calliope.streamlink.to/2ndEPCD
UnAlive (March 21, 2022) LP: https://cover.lnk.to/UnAlive
Shinigami Note (OUT NOW! - July 20, 2022) EP: https://lnk.to/mcsnph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5BRLBJ81BA
//// Stream Make ‘Em Afraid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzOXIHGfVFc

//// Crunchyroll Expo 2022: https://twitter.com/crunchyrollexpo/status/1547298566527500290
//// https://crunchyrollexpo.com/en/holomeetngreet/

//// LIVE SHOW (major debut):
New Underworld Order
July 21, 2022 @ Toyosu PIT
//// VOD AVAILABLE UNTIL AUGUST 21 via SPWN
//// MERCH EXTENDED to AUGUST 1
https://newunderworldorder.hololivepro.com/

Mori moments: https://pastebin.com/NNZ1QPiV

Remember to love your Mori. :}

>> No.28985319

Need more Mori and Lui
More collab doko
Sex on stream where

>> No.28985341

>>28985280
Until tomorrow morning NA time. Longer if they ain't a member.

>> No.28985349

>>28985291
Wouldn't she just use controller?

>> No.28985369

>>28985227
No, no, for part of the OP post
Writing little Japanese sentences is fun sometimes

>> No.28985378

>>28985349
She's so stupid she still hasn't figured out that you just need to plug the PS5 controller in with USB.

>> No.28985390
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>>28985196
>>28985255
>New EP
>New MV
>Sololive
>A week full of streams
>More twitter interactions

>> No.28985404

>Lui claiming she killed Mori cause she loved her
ayy lmao more fuel on the Yandere Lui fire there.

>> No.28985429
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remember to love your Mori

>> No.28985435

I....miss.....her guys...where is Mori? It's been too long . Need my Morinium dosage NOW!!!!!

>> No.28985437

>>28985378
Why is she like this?

>> No.28985457

>>28985349
Rust is a Steam game and she still doesn't understand how to follow a 2 minute guide on YT to connect a controller to Steam

>> No.28985460

>>28985404
First Suisei, now Lui.

>> No.28985501
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>>28985404
I love my crazy avian hag wife

>> No.28985508

god i can't stop thinking about how good the concert was

going to find a way to break into japan for the next one no matter what it takes

>> No.28985553

>>28985508
You think she'll do another one for the album?

>> No.28985576

>>28985553
Obviously

>> No.28985584

>>28985349
she just tried to play among us without keyboard for some goddamn reason so I just assume she'll make the dumbest control decisions possible.

>> No.28985592

>>28985553
I wouldn't be surprised if she does another before that.

>> No.28985650

Fuck, who do I take as a second wife after Mori? Lui or Suisei?

>> No.28985655

>>28985319
Mori is still afraid to do more Japanese off collabs despite meeting Lui, Watame, Suisei multiple times. Sucks considering how good she is during them. (Also makes me realize she never bothered fixing her heart rate monitor she was so excited about...)

>> No.28985662

>>28985457
>>28985584
Will my Mori ever stop being a dumbass?

>> No.28985690

>>28985501
That's actually a decent swing

>> No.28985698

I used to think of Calli as just my bro but after Mera Mera dropped all I can think about is breeding her

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>>28985584

>> No.28985716

>>28985501
what was that from their 3D debut?

>> No.28985752

>>28985708
Get out of here Woolie.

>> No.28985785

>>28985716
Hologra ED for Lui's debut in it
Watch it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFfL_Wl0TPQ

>> No.28985797

>>28985655
She's never going to use a heart rate monitor because she doesn't want to make more concernbeats.

>> No.28985843

>>28985698
After Mera Mera all I can think about is that she's my love interest in a bollywood movie.

>> No.28985873

>Lui vs Suzy in a knife fight for Mori's hand in marriage.

This should happen. The catfight will be awesome.

>> No.28985895

Is Shinigami Note available for non Youtube Premium users? I found a retarded clipper uploaded Kamouflage, MEA and Let's End the World lol

>> No.28985935
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It seems to have a mixed reaction here but I really fucking love Shinigami Note and I've been listening to it on repeat ever since the concert. The parts in Make Em Afraid that are like the transitional bits between the verses and chorus (I don't know the proper terms) give me chills every time. If it wasn't for Q I'd think Mori was incapable of making a bad track (and even then I think Q is mostly fine, I just really dislike Gura's slow parts which hurts because she's my oshi). I can't fucking wait for her full album.

>> No.28986077

>>28985935
I've come to like it more after the concert

>> No.28986127

>>28985935
The concert definitely made me appreciate SN a lot more, including Kamouflage and Holy Shitto that I didn't really like beforehand. But it also doesn't really rank as her strongest work either.

>> No.28986225
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>>28985318
>Crunchyroll Expo 2022
Is it worth it to fake my vaxx card to have a chance at meeting my Mori?

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>>28985935
Thanks for enjoying it chumbie.
The mixed reception here I think is because it's mainly too different from her usual stuff. Some are also just worried about her either burning out or UMG forcing it on her, but I still enjoy the EP a lot despite everything, especially Kamouflage, so I'm happy with it.

>> No.28986245

>>28986225
The tickets for the day she is there are sold out.

>> No.28986253

>>28986225
no

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https://twitter.com/akashibag/status/1550827175771017216

>> No.28986323 [DELETED] 

>>28986225
Get you shots, pussy

>> No.28986357 [DELETED] 

>>28986225
no it was on a lottery system anyway and get vaccinated faggot getting 5Gs from towers isn't real

>> No.28986380

man, I picked up DMCV after couple months of break and Nero becomes such a fucking clusterfuck after regaining devil bringer
I want my simple boi back

>> No.28986412

>>28986077
>>28986127
After rewatching the concert, I think I know why I liked them more live.
In the official versions she sounds kind of bored or a little flat, more like she's putting on a deep "thug" style voice to sound cool especially on the raps.
But while live she has this really great "hype" loud voice that works a lot better.

>> No.28986448

>>28986296
Wow. Look at her go.

>> No.28986461

>>28986412
so many of her songs sound better live I almost think she is writing songs liek that on purpose now.

>> No.28986472

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlCiYJm9x94

>Ironmouse is Ranni

WTF.

>> No.28986479

>>28986412
it's the mixing

>> No.28986492

>>28986412
for me I had a feeling these were more suited to being concert songs and it looks like I was right I even turned around on Holy Shitto

>> No.28986512
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>>28986245
I can get 3 days tickets still
>>28986323
>>28986323
>>28986357
even if I got them now, I wouldn't make it in time anyway

>> No.28986535

>>28986472
>30 minutes
Time for fun.

>> No.28986543

>>28986472
zoomer humor is so pointlessly information dense

>> No.28986574

Mythbreakers doko

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>>28984888
I had no fucking idea, holy shit

>> No.28986595

>>28986543
A wise clown once described it as information overload that makes you laugh

>> No.28986631

>>28986574
It's dead, anon...

>> No.28986643

>>28985141
She's so cute.....

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>>28986584
Start watching more Kiara, you fuck

>> No.28986657

>>28986543
Max0r is good at it though. one of the few youtubers that do zoomer humour that I enjoy. No idea why. The Bloodborne one made my stomach hurt from laughing.

>> No.28986662

>>28986472
I only liked his Ace Combat videos, I don't know why but the other ones don't hit for me

>> No.28986670

>>28986631
I have my stash of hopium

>> No.28986674

>>28985708
>it even says "Mori"
Fucking kek

>> No.28986699

>>28985429
imagine the smell

>> No.28986730

>>28986656
NTA but chimken is an endurance streamer and I can barely keep up with watching Mori all the time

>> No.28986770

>>28986699
hopefully something I like

>> No.28986822

>>28985935
the concert made me appreciate that SN is very good at what it's going for and does amazing work getting the room bumping in the correct atmosphere, but my favourite part of mori has always been the quieter more introspective stuff so I bounce off it quite a bit. its still good however, and a lot better than i initially gave it credit for.

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>>28985785
>nan no hanashi
Okay, that one got me.

>> No.28986897

>>28986472
His previous one had a few Faunas too. I don't know why but his style of humor is actually amusing to me.

>> No.28986910

>>28986296
Nice.

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Mori bad

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>> No.28987016

>>28986574
at least give it August before you doompost

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Mori good

>> No.28987031

>>28986472
One step closer to Watame.

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>>28986296
I'm glad new outfit art is popping up.

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its been 1000 years
did we lose him?

>> No.28987559

>>28987328
He lost interest when she "sold out"
sad

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>>28985785
Koyokek

>> No.28987706

>>28987328
people don't do react content if they gonna get fucked by UMG

>> No.28987726

>>28987328
ScruFace kneels before UMG

>> No.28987839

>>28987328
Good riddance. React content like this is lazy and useless because it's made for people who want to be validiated in their opinions. There's also only so many times you can push
>YO WHITE SHAWTY CAN RAP GURRLLL

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I love my moon princess so much

>> No.28987868

>>28987706
>>28987726
He does Eminem reactions though and Shady Records is owned by UMG

>> No.28987886

>>28987328
Mori really needs to explain to UMG that exposure to third parties like 8bit drummer and other such channels help her

>> No.28987916

>>28987868
Then it might just be that people aren't requesting her to him anymore. I know UMG is why 8bitdrummer isn't covering her recent stuff at least

>> No.28987961

>>28987868
Mori is under JAPANESE UMG

>> No.28987983

Members tomorrow is the concert watchalong right?

>> No.28988027

>>28987886
yeah, that always works so well with nip execs
can't wait for the MGR playthrough

>> No.28988050

I will not remember my mori and work everyday to forget her.

>> No.28988134

>>28985390
>More twitter interactions
With 90% of them being the new homos

>> No.28988183

>>28988050
Does it work, or do you still remember her despite your efforts?

>> No.28988206

>>28987886
Oh you sweet summer child. You innocent sunflower, you.

>> No.28988237

>>28986574
Too busy sucking Tempus off

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>>28988134
Don't care, got two likes.

>> No.28988305

>>28987886
She also needs to explain to UMG that the waiting room for new MVs should be put up at least a day ahead of time instead of just a couple hours to boost it into the algorithm.

>> No.28988312

>>28988183
Doesn't work, just makes me remember her more.
I believe the only choice is to die, but that would bring me closer. Its an endless cycle of remembrance that cannot be broken.

>> No.28988329

>>28987886
>>28988206
Yeah, just like the promo miscommunication, right?

>> No.28988347

I just watched the interview from the limited edition. Once again, nothing new that hasn't been already said if you follow her deeper than surface level. Why do these interviews always ask the same questions?

>> No.28988362

hmmm, considering that the last time the release problem with the Roki cover were the translated lyric, what if Mori got perms to cover Gekkou in JP for her channel and then used her translation for Side B
still kinda dumb to self-compete but at least gives some hope

>> No.28988425

>>28987014
>Her MC part was so cool

I can't believe Watame is a fake fan. She obviously hasn't seen any of her Minecraft streams if she thinks they were "cool"

>> No.28988466

>>28986225
Unless you already applied for the meet and greet it's too late now.

>> No.28988485

>>28988329
Music copyright goes way beyond her anon. Music companies aren't going to bend over for one single artist.

>> No.28988538

>>28988347
Musician interviews are usually the same. What would you have asked her?

>> No.28988576

>>28985935
Only tracks I straight up dislike is Make 'Em Afraid and Let's End. But Mori herself is fine on them, its the tracks being bargain bin brostep/club music. I actually think her not being discerning when it comes to the music track is her biggest weakness, she is more than capable when it comes to her performance. I wonder sometimes if she either gets stars in her eyes or really wants to promote a friend. Rather than choosing what is best. Her best work is always a very focused usually personal concept.

>> No.28988594

>>28988538
Does she think I'm cute?

>> No.28988596

>>28988329
Apples to oranges, anon. One is finding a remedial solution to a minor merchandising snafu, the other involves international copyright law. Not to mention the intermediaries (YT, Twitch, etc) that uphold said laws and agreements.

We live in a world where OFFICIAL streams of events get auto-DMCA'd by the platforms they're streaming on, and where corporate executives need to have software custom-made for their companies so they can quantify diversity. 'Just talk it out' isn't gonna cut it.

>> No.28988619

What would Mori and Bae do for a one on one off collab? Karaoke? Play a horror game?

>> No.28988625

>>28988538
Masturbation habits.

>> No.28988648

>>28988619
Bounce on my dick

>> No.28988669

hey, just realized something
this bitch is planning a Sims 4 guerilla but still is short on the promised make-up member streams!
I'll bring that shit up tomorrow

>> No.28988703

>>28986472
I'm watching this and it gets to the Ranni part, my immediate reaction is 'Holy shit, that's what IM actually sounds like?!', then I get to the bit with Tanith and realise you're a fucking shithead

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>>28988466
eh? I thought it ended later today

>> No.28988768

>>28988619
Horror game sounds kind of fun. They could also do a destruction sim game for the death and chaos theme.

>> No.28988799 [DELETED] 

>>28988619
Who can suck off Tempus more

>> No.28988976

>>28986656
h-hai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aie_i5Er8s

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After listening to the EP in full around 15 times or so, I think I did Kamo dirty by not ranking it higher. Honestly it might be my favorite. it has some of the deeper lyrics on the EP, I love the Mona Lisa line, and the bass line and track in general are really solid. Mori's singing is also excellent. Plus it's just the right length.

>> No.28989207

>>28988799
are you gonna be like this all night

>> No.28989673

>>28988619
Has there been news of an offcollab?

>> No.28989707

>>28989673
They've already had two technically.

>> No.28989843

>>28989707
Yeah, but I wanted to know if the post was just a musing or prompted by something.

>> No.28989871

>>28989673
Japan is getting record number of Covid cases last I heard so opening it up is probably getting delayed again.

>> No.28990034

>>28989871
Eventually they'll have to realize that the coof is here to stay.

>> No.28990511

>>28989871
Why are they getting such a huge spike? They got rid of every restriction except at medical buildings here in BC months ago and we been cruising with low case numbers and no real spikes.

>> No.28990526

>>28990034
Haha, right, Japanese people aren't known for sticking to retarded outdated beliefs, rules or methods even when they're proven terribly inefficient.

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>>28989108
Her live rendition of it is also great, with some dope vocal adlibs, and her moves are just as SEX as the latter parts of the concert. Look at these sassy little hand waggles, damn. Looks like it was somewhat underrated because it was in the free part.
https://youtu.be/tY8_Qm8kTPM?t=2278

>> No.28990656

>>28985429
She goes commando

>> No.28990684

>>28988538
"Why are you gay?"

>> No.28990692

I just had a dream about Mori wiping out an entire hospital run by vampires. It was cool as shit.

>> No.28990766

>>28990692
Even in dreams she’s kakkoi

>> No.28990775

>>28990511
Most of the world isn't testing as much trying to hope that deaths stay down enough that it can be swept under the rug. Japan is still testing.

>> No.28990847

>>28990692
Nice, yo.

>> No.28990869

>>28990692
Deserved after Mel turned her into one

>> No.28990951

>>28990692
How do these dreams even work? I've never had a dream where someone not "real" has shown up.

>> No.28991037

>>28990692
Kakkoi...
>>28990511
No idea, take your guess. I just saw statistics. The only thing I care about is that it means there's no chance for a Japan offcollab.

>> No.28991228 [DELETED] 

>>28990511
>lock down the country in extremely restrictive manner
>use only locally developed and tested vaccines
>finally only allow only residents to go and come back with less restriction
>they bring in new strains that the world been dealing with for a couple of months now, ones with increased infection rate and reduced lethality since that's how viruses specialize
>since it's residents coming in rather than tourists, they have way more close contacts with nationals, which leads to easier creation of localized infection pools

perfect mix

>> No.28991437 [DELETED] 

>>28991228
Oh, they are using the other shitty vaccines? We are almost 100% pfizer/moderna and people are pretty good at getting their boosters still here. I bet they are having the same problem China is having then where the vaccine they were using is basically useless vs anything except the original strain.

>> No.28991464

Mori's new Rapper3D outfit is insanely sexual and she should never get another one like it again. It makes me want to rip another hole in her pants and pound her against a wall backstage or get her legs up in the bathroom of some shitty venue and slip my hands under her sheer top and massage her fat tits FUCK she's so HOT

>> No.28991527

>>28991464
I'm slightly miffed with her but I'm still thinking based

>> No.28991564

>>28991464
God I want her to have sex with me after a concert, imagine all that energy and adrenaline with all her sexiness and that outfit... aaaaaa

>> No.28991752

>>28991564
man, I do wonder how she smells after the concert, the hormones must make for some crazy mix

>> No.28991756
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28991756

Upload when?

>> No.28991778

>>28991564
Mori seems like the kind of person to end a show, walk straight backstage and grab your cock after getting a 10,000 person confidence boost. She'd run backstage to you screaming, cheering her on, and plant a fat kiss on you, and just start making out with you fueled entirely by adrenaline and happiness and no actual conscious thought

>> No.28991982

>>28991778
She then grabs your hand and drags you back to the dressing room to continue in private

>> No.28992091

uwaa... need concert-horny moririn gf...

>> No.28992095

>>28991756
Watame who? She isn't part of Tempus.

>> No.28992206

>>28991564
I'm remembering that one fanfic now. I want another one like that minus the cheating on your current girlfriend part.

>> No.28992351

>>28991564
She grinds on your dick the same way she was swaying her hips...fuck, that makes me horny.

>> No.28992357

Gonna have to listen to the EP a few more times, but I think Kamoflauge is currently my personal favorite. Kamoflauge’s first proper lyrics live rent free in my head, and “Why so shocked, your Mona Lisa talks” is one of better lines she’s written across any of her songs.

>> No.28992395

>>28992351
more like UMG sex lessons

>> No.28992398

>>28991564
>>28992206
https://archiveofourown.org/works/33762916

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>>28992357
My brother. I thought the same thing >>28989108

>> No.28992597

What if the reason Mori is so frustrated and felt like she was washed up before her concert is because she was told the sales numbers before she started and they were painfully low.

>> No.28992725

>>28992597
Nah I think it was the views on youtube. Actual sales still got really high on all stores and the limited EP sold out twice.

>> No.28992909

>>28992597
it's mainly the Make 'Em Afraid, I bet
>shilled for a long time as her absolute fav on the EP
>even as her favorite thing she has EVER made
>Ado's artist on deck for the MV
>extra Calvin stream to hype up the release

all that shit and it's doing numbers like some throwaway cover song or a nijiEN release

>> No.28993013

>>28992909
If she wants to improve her numbers then she should stop interacting with the homos.

>> No.28993073

>>28988425
She watched her house get bombed and she laughed.

>> No.28993087

>>28993013
but people love the magnificent magster

>> No.28993146

>>28993013
no correlation with song numbers really
it's probably a mix of UMG restrictions and the fact she let her channel go with 0 content for entire weeks this year, engagement has been really at an all time low recently, she just needs to rebuild it

>> No.28993223

>>28992909
>>28993013
Don't worry. I'm sure Watame's song will save her numbers.

>> No.28993252

I think it was a mistake to trickle out the tracks from the EP before it fully released. She didn't do that for Your Mori and UnAlive (besides Q and Graveyard Shift) and they did fine being released all at once. I wonder if she'll do the same for the new album or rethink her approach.

>> No.28993316

>>28993013
lol, I highly doubt thats the reason. Its a "Major Debut EP" and it was hyped a lot so the expectation was unreasonable. When it comes down to it people probably didnt vibe with these past 2 songs as much, thus the views. CapSule and Mera Mera did well because the tracks behind them were great. Nice bait though.

>> No.28993453

Moririn Schizo Laugh.webm made its way back into my head again. I still can't believe she completely lost it and just DID that. It occurs to me she subconsciously realized at that moment that it was all actually real and she made it. That's what it was, it's an "I MADE IT" laugh.

>> No.28993491

>>28993252
honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if people were just sorta tired of her music by this point
we're at nearly 30 tracks released this year and it's not like, regardless of her experimenting, the sound of most is that heavily different
look how Suzy does it - just releases covers of popular stuff to rein in new fans, drops a single idolpop album a year that blows up and keeps her experimental shit to other channel, meanwhile Mori just machineguns dozens of originals and for most she just goes 'sink or swim, motherfucker'

>> No.28993495

>>28992597
If you can stay on the top of CDJapan sales for that long and still have "painfully low" sales, I'd hate to see what everyone else sells like.

>> No.28993514

Hello deadbeats, teamate here. A few weeks ago, I think, someone mentioned that Mori was thinking of doing a song with Ame.
Got any updates on that? Also, congrats on the, well, congrats on everything good that is happening to Mori!

>> No.28993555

>>28993252
>I wonder if she'll do the same for the new album or rethink her approach.
Do we know whether this was her idea? I just assumed that UMG is the one who pushed for MVs pre-release to drum up hype or something.

>> No.28993594

>>28992597
If the sales were really that low I doubt they'd try again with an entire album. Think it has to do with Twitter/TikTok antis getting to her, since she even said she didn't want the album labelled hip-hop even though that's clearly the genre. Also doesn't help that right now YouTube isn't correctly counting views anymore which makes it seem like Make 'em Afraid is underperforming worse than it actually is.

>> No.28993603

>>28993514
She just mentioned she had a song in mind that she things would fit Ame a few weeks ago. Nothing since then, but everyone been busy as shit since then.

>> No.28993601

>>28993514
no updates yet and don't expect them for a long time, but when Mori says she's working on a song with someone you can bet on it dropping sooner or later
the stuff with Mel and Kanata took over a year in the oven, similarly Beat Eater with Reine taking around 7 months since it was first mentioned

>> No.28993662

>>28993514
No updates since the first mention of it. All Mori said was she found a track that she thought would be good for a collab song with Ame and that she'd show it to her to she if she's interested. Despite how quickly it seems Mori churns out songs, these things take time, and it's possible Ame might've just not liked the track or was too busy.

>> No.28993739

>>28993594
>Also doesn't help that right now YouTube isn't correctly counting views anymore
eh, I think that's cope, even the amount of likes on MEA is like half of HS and the space between releases wasn't that huge
I think the song just slipped from the algo because the interest in the channel has been low due to what she's been doing (ever since the offcollab it has been mainly chill solo streams of debuff games and shill streams with a couple of karaoke propping things up)

>> No.28993865

>>28993601
Didn't she at some point said she wanted to do a collab son with Kiara and that never happened? Though, I wouldn't blame them for not going through it, their music styles are incompatible

>> No.28993954

>>28993865
>never happened
not her, Kiara suggested something might be dropping in 2021 but Mori was pretty stuck with Q by then

>> No.28993986

>>28985553

Depends on how well the concert did in money sales. The EP was in the top 10 on Amazon for sales, and the concert sold out. So the signs are there that the entire release might have done well enough to make another concert make sense.

>> No.28994031

guys when she was talking about doldrums she was experiencing, she was talking about how she was beating herself up for being that 'anime girl rapper' whose only popular because she's apart of hololive and it's hololive thats popular not her, not her talent. And she said they went away.

>> No.28994035

>>28993495
CD Japan's ranking is basically "how many people outside Japan are buying this Japanese release" - better number to look at is it's currently #3 in Oricon's daily album ranking, although it has jumped around a bit. Could be some japs got inspired by the concert, could be a timing thing vs other releases but it's higher now than on release day.

>> No.28994080

>>28993316
The sheer amount of time she put into reaper business these last two months was definitely a factor. Despite stream times still being relatively normal, before this recent spike her community interactions were basically just stream ads on Twitter she was unironically responding to Dead Beats more as the roommate

>> No.28994120

>>28993491
Fair observation though I don't think that's quite it. If it were exhaustion numbers would be down across the board, and what we're talking about are two MVs specifically.

Personally, I think for HS it was a combination of the song not vibing with most of her regular listeners together with the MV itself being underwhelming. As for MEA, I think its mainly due to the fact that the EP released simultaneously. Why would you stream it off YT when the MV doesn't add much to it AND nerfs the audio? Especially if Mori just told people to go stream it off iTunes?

In any case, this whole discussion about numbers isn't that important. Worrying about views and sales is exactly the sort of mindset that stifles creativity.

>> No.28994226

>>28993739
Seems like the problem is easy to cause and hard to fix. Not sure how she'll do it.

>> No.28994253

>>28992909
I'm willing to bet it's almost definitely her falling out of favor with the yt algorithm due to taking so many breaks.

>> No.28994335

I wonder why can be learned from Villain Vibes and why it's doing so much better.

>> No.28994403

>>28994335
*What can be learned

>> No.28994404

>>28994253
>Susan punished Mori for half-assing YT Music Weekend and wasting the billboard spot by taking her out of the algorithm

>> No.28994461

>>28993514
No new news but when she said it she specifically said she’d take as long as they needed so I wouldn’t expect it for a while.

>> No.28994478

>>28994335
VV was the first original music upload on a popular artists channel in a long time, it has that buff going

>> No.28994486

>>28994226
unironically the things she struggles with the most, consistency and riding trends
hopefully the thing releasing on 27th is a cover of a hot song and she's just around for a couple of months

>>28994335
mostly that a first time collabs of popular channels get big buffs, her other MV is doing okay but on a more usual scale to her

>> No.28994508

>>28992909
This is not to start a fanbase war but it's still performing better than Kiara's Fever Night and Kiara is shill master supreme

>> No.28994538

>>28994031
She said she woke up the day of the live feeling like shit because no big number and that it went away when she saw people actually excited to be there.

>> No.28994569

>>28994335
>Collab song means two fanbases to draw views from
>Very flashy, high production value MV
>First big release for the main talent, hyped up for literally half a year

>> No.28994583

>>28994508
oh shut the fuck up
the only meaningful comparison is if you of today is doing better than the you of yesterday, and that's clearly not the case with MEA

>> No.28994589

Holy shit why the fuck are you cunts responding to numberfagging seriously the fuck is wrong with you all?

>> No.28994679
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I heard this on the radio and now I think Mori should sing it in karaoke and dedicate it to me, the final deadbeat.
https://youtu.be/wv-34w8kGPM

>> No.28994677

>>28994589
anon, regardless of how you call it, Mori felt disappointed with her recent results (which are not typical for her channel) and all we're doing is discussing probable cause and means to deal with it
because, you know, we're kinda invested in her being successful and happy

>> No.28994729

>>28994583
>the only meaningful comparison is
NTA but the comment he responded to specifically made comparisons to indies and NijiEN. It's not like that anon randomly started making comparisons to other people.

>> No.28994774

People got tired of "own the haters" and she really needs a break.

Sheeran has 1yr breaks every After album to refresh his song writing cache.
She needs to be able to inspire again. Not throw shade at every one who doesn't like her or lament after the fact.

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Mori!

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kek

>> No.28995030

>>28994677
Her disappointment was brief and she felt better as soon as she saw the audience. She only brought it up to highlight the positive. Everything is better now.

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>>28994999
Fuckin hell.

>> No.28995093

>>28995030
>Her disappointment was brief
ehhhh
>Everything is better now.
that's what we were thinking at the end of the last year

>> No.28995100

>>28994774
This.

Even though SN is technically sound, it regurgitates a feeling of unease, as if she's trying to appease something and limiting her to be herself

The reason why UnAlive feels better is because she poured everything into it, despite not having the experience to pull off the experimental aspects of it . It enjoys being Mori

>> No.28995258

>>28994774
Mori still struggles with balancing quality over quantity. I think an album in December is way too soon.

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>>28994774
>People got tired of "own the haters"
I keep on seeing people say that they're fatigued by the frequency of Mori's "own the haters" songs. So...how many "own the haters" songs has Mori actually released this year?

>> No.28995327

>>28995093
You're free to dwell on being cynical and not believing what your oshi has to say. I'm going to trust that the concert was a huge boost to her happiness.

>> No.28995342

>>28994774
She should just make a single song that goes all the way with it, no holding back on her thoughts. As Mori too, no hiding on the other side, no hiding behind saying it's for something like Arcane, just full-on assault to her antis.
To get it out of her system and because she's clearly thinking of doing it. Just one song though.

>> No.28995388

>>28995327
no, I believe that part, I'm just not overtly confident in how long it'll last
she always keeps wanting more by the end of the day

>> No.28995391

>>28986225
>>28986512
I hope someone from here greets her

>> No.28995399

>>28995093
And this is why Mori's hesitant to open up about stuff like this. Everyone feels negative emotions man. No need to overthink things
>that's what we were thinking at the end of the last year
Some of you niggas really do have ptsd over the lean arc...

>> No.28995455

>>28995257
Well is Make Em Afraid a own the haters song?

>> No.28995495

>>28994774
Her content was still incredibly fresh when it wasn't split. EoaL was a peak because she was putting all of the emotion into it. Then she got hit with a ton of negativity and stress from January to April and that "own the haters" mentality returned

>> No.28995548

>>28995455
Lol. Lmao what the fuck!?

>> No.28995557

>>28995257
Look up the translation of "shitto" anon

>> No.28995558

>>28995258
I agree that she could use a break, but this might be a case of bad timing. From what she's told us UnAlive was already in the works when UMG extended their offer, and as we know she decided to accept it because its one hell of an opportunity. But if that UMG deal said 'we want an EP for July and an album for December' she's got little choice in it. Maybe it'll be delayed, maybe not. But looking at everything it seems to me like she's shotgunning songs this year due to a great opportunity coming at an awkward time more than anything else.

That, and she loves doing it regardless.

>> No.28995654

>>28995557
>So...how many "own the haters" songs has Mori actually released this year?

>> No.28995705

>>28995654
0?

>> No.28995725 [DELETED] 

>>28995654
Why are you responding to this nigger seriously as if they’re posting in good faith?

>> No.28995813

>>28995558
Even from the rm standpoint, you could see that most of her successful EPs aren't the "own the haters" ones. It's always, the fun , uplifting ones.

She really needs to stop whining that she has haters and start stepping up and inspire people.

>> No.28995817

>>28994080
The thing is that more stream time isn't always better. Streaming for an hour once a day for a week is better than streaming for 5 hours on two days in a week despite the later being more stream time. You want engagement and people going to your channel.

>> No.28995842

>>28993954
I think you're thinking of her teasing the omocat/ manga readalongs.

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>>28995725
>Why are you responding to this nigger seriously
>Didn't address his comment and simply repeated my question
You might wanna calm down there buddy.

>> No.28995893

Alright if I'm answering the questions seriously, am I supposed to count the lofi album?

>> No.28995957

>>28995893
No

>> No.28995970

>>28995893
I honestly think that DJ Jo hoodwinked Mori for a quick buck.

>> No.28995986

>>28995813
Her most successful ep as Mori! Is the latest one for simple number theory of more eyes on it.
>>28995893
That shit doesn't count.

>> No.28995989

>>28993491
Releasing covers is also good because it advertises your channel. Like you could watch some Phony cover and then see other covers in your recommendations. Mori really needs to take a break from original songs and focus on releasing some covers.

>> No.28995996

>>28995817
Yeah that's what I was saying. Stream time didn't dip too much but community engagement was near an all-time low since quitting scythe swinging

>> No.28996004

>>28995813
That has nothing to do with what I said. Stop trying to push this angle so much.

>> No.28996017

God I still can’t get that fucking “deadbeats jerk it now” out of my head.

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>>28996017
For me its the unhinged fembeat in the back.

>> No.28996120

>>28996017
Blueballs 2 years in the making

>> No.28996143

>>28995989
She fucking hates doing covers. You know how much of a hassle it was when she was in her "let's take a break with covers" phase.
If others weren't such fuckups on projects maybe it would be different but that's how the industry goes.

>> No.28996165

>>28996004
It is. It even applies to the feelings people have for UnAlive vs SN.

>> No.28996168

>>28996017
The way she said it too. No hint of irony, just all sultry, low voice while doing a jerk off motion. God I want to fuck Mori so badly.

>> No.28996204

>>28995654
Does it have to be this year? Because I would consider RIP, guh, OWTH, Holy Shitto, Let's End the World, Make EM' Afraid, and even HUGE W to all be in some way about owning haters.

>> No.28996238

alright there's been 4 own the haters songs this year as Mori. More could be added if you count other sources.

>> No.28996264

>>28996204
They should lock you in a mental institution

>> No.28996284

>>28994589
>Mori numberfagged and retard doesn't know why people would talk about it.

>> No.28996297

>>28996204
Are you for real? You really trying to claim RIP is about owning the haters? Is this a joke?

>> No.28996308

>>28996238
5 because the next one is yet another
>You can't tell me what to do! song

>> No.28996343

>>28996204
Jesus Christ dude.

>> No.28996369

>>28996204
Isn't Kamoflague an "own the fans" song in a way? She basically saying "haha idiots, you don't see me for who I actually am" in the chorus

>> No.28996384

>>28996204
I swear you fuckers must be ESL if that's how you interpret most of those songs.

>> No.28996387

>>28996107
God I am entranced by her hips ever since the live

>> No.28996390

>>28996238
List them. And argue why.

>> No.28996391

>>28996308
We're only counting this year, we're not counting rereleases like lofi, we're only counting what is out now.

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>>28996204

>> No.28996410

which homo EN Mori will collab first?

>> No.28996421

>>28996369
I thought about it and don't count it. It's not the subject of the song. A single line isn't enough.

>> No.28996448

>>28996204
baito desu

>> No.28996465

>>28996297
Is it not? She said she expected to receive a lot of hate when she debuted and has lines like "jealous hater out there high five I see you" in there. To be clear I was just answering the question I actually like most of those songs.

>> No.28996477

>>28996410
towa

>> No.28996524

>>28996369
Kamouflage is just pop GRLS

>> No.28996566

>>28996143
>She fucking hates doing covers.
well, she needs to hide her ego in her pocket or just be fine with slower growth or even a recline
the story she gave implies that she IS fine with the latter, but we'll see how it holds

>> No.28996571

>>28996390
"Make 'Em Afraid"
"Holy Shitto"
"Villain Vibes"
"Dead On Arrival"
now other side adds 2

>> No.28996582

Now that the threadshitter blew their ass out again post Moris

>> No.28996648

>>28996410
All of them

>> No.28996651

>>28996384
Please give me counter interpretations then.

>> No.28996687

TGRIALS is an own the haters song because no one can see who she really is.
Red is an own the haters song because she's talking about fading away.
Bully is an own the haters song because she's talking about bullying Kiara.
This is what you faggots sound like.

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>>28996582
yeah, I guess
at least we had somewhat productive discussion for a bit
she really needs to give some popular covers a go and just stream consistently for a while to reignite interest in her channel

>> No.28996718

>>28996571
lol
lmao, even

>> No.28996731

>>28996566
She's apparently perfectly fine putting them out elsewhere though

>> No.28996760

>>28996687
Deadbeats is an own the haters song because she’s telling me to jerk it instead of doing it herself which makes me a hater

>> No.28996771

>>28996718
Go ahead and argue if you want.

>> No.28996788

>>28996651
They won't. Seriously holy fuck you can't have a discussion without them spamming smug or suprised Mori images and replying to each jerking themselves off for not replying.

>> No.28996796

>>28996571
>arcane song
>I'm better now and I use the envy as something that gets me to work harder
>boss bitches is about haters?
>you are fucking gambling your soul with death in a fucking underworldian casino
Must be my limited editions but we have different lyrics, schizochama

>> No.28996830

>>28996796
How does "arcane song" mean that the lyrics aren't about haters?

>> No.28996864

>>28996796
only schizos bring up schizos

>> No.28996884

>>28994226
You can't fix it anymore. the third time she went silent on her official side was final nail in the coffin. It is her own fault and her damage controlling now is too late.

>> No.28996922

Michael Jordan made a career out of owning haters.

No one seems to mind it

>> No.28996944

>>28996884
And she’ll graduate in 2 weeks right?

>> No.28996964

>>28996651
first, stop accounting for single lines defining the entire theme of a song
RIP has one or two lines about 'haters', but the rest of the shit is through and through an introductory piece
OWTH is motivational, the meat of the song is about putting work without expecting payoff or complaining, because nothing's guaranteed
Huge W is an absolute shitpost song, referencing even stupid shit like her Cursed ASMR, it's just about having an SM relation
Make'Em Afraid is about not fitting a mold, which is actually a more common theme for her songs than 'owning people' ever were

LETW - I'll wait for clear lyrics for this one, since it's too wubby and I worry I'll misinterpret a line

>> No.28996984

>>28996922
Nigga what

>> No.28996994 [DELETED] 

>>28996830
Fine, quote me anything you think is talking about Mori's haters and it's not her "letting loose" in a fantasy like she literally said like 20 times.
>>28996864
Feefees hurt schizo??!

>> No.28996996

>>28996830
she wrote it having arcane in mind, not the haters

>> No.28997001

>>28996796
>arcane song
That's just Mori pretending that she isn't creatively bankrupt by acting like it isn't another song about her haters.

>> No.28997006

>>28996830
NTA but its a chuuni larp song inspired by Arcane, dude. This is like saying Mori amd Gura hate each other because of Q.

Give it up.

>> No.28997055 [DELETED] 

>>28996731
>She's apparently perfectly fine putting them out elsewhere though
can you not ruin a sound argument by being a retarded nigger
'OH SHE IS SUCH A COVER BEAST ON THE OTHER CHANNEL'
yeah, she really did a bang up fucking job releasing any cover on that channel in the last 2 years

>> No.28997087 [DELETED] 

>>28997006
But Q is a song about them owning their haters, not them hating each other.

>> No.28997096

Look I’m sorry people made fun of you for spamming literally non stop during Among Us can you go away now?

>> No.28997147

>>28996964
>in some way about owning haters
I didn't say it was the entire theme

>> No.28997153

>>28996984
Anon, the " he made it personal" meme is not a meme. He literally ate away haters on the way to six championships

>> No.28997198

>>28996996
the subject of the song is not Arcane, it's the inspiration

>> No.28997200

>>28997087
>Mori and gura right each other
>lean smoke turns their fans into possessed evils
>they unite and beat them back into shape
Haters?
These threads have more revisionism than tankie accounts on twitter

>> No.28997228 [DELETED] 

End of a life is an own the haters song because she's leaving behind the jealous backstabbers

>> No.28997258

>>28996944
Hell no but I really hope she realizes why the views are going down.

>> No.28997265

>>28997147
NTA but the initial question was about "own the haters" songs, not songs that mention haters once.

>> No.28997275 [DELETED] 

Ibasho is an own the haters song!

>> No.28997294

now you're all just ironically shitposting

>> No.28997332

>>28997147
anon, you take one off lines, that retarded as shit, especially when single lines can be selected for reasons as prosaic as just rhyming better
if you want to talk about the general idea of a piece, you got to focus on the consistent themes it's addressing

>> No.28997334 [DELETED] 

Modchama watch out what you're deleting

>> No.28997341

>>28997294
Well it makes the other ones looks ad dumb as that

>> No.28997415 [DELETED] 

Dawn Blue is about standing side by side to OWN THE HATERS

>> No.28997425

holy shitto, what's happening lmao

>> No.28997440

>>28997265
>>28997332
The main point is that most people are tired of that message no matter how prevalent it is in a song. Plus Mori wants to connect with people through her music. I really can't relate much to owning haters, I don't even have haters.

>> No.28997446

>>28997294
I thought >>28996788 was an ironic shitpost at first desu.

>> No.28997447

Regardless of what's a "hater" song or not, her absolute best songs are her introspective ones by far (Red, EoaL, Bully, Live Again, Ouroboros, and a large part of Scuffed Up Age)

>> No.28997454

>>28997392
Made me laugh, thanks anon

>> No.28997461 [DELETED] 

Dude just delete the thread, what the f are you doing manually nuking every post?

>> No.28997479 [DELETED] 

Lose Lose Days is an own the haters song because it's a love letter to Myth and Hololive and her haters think she hates them

>> No.28997508

>>28997425
mods/jannies finally approaching things /a/ style, maybe the board can be salvaged

>> No.28997530

>>28997153
All I’m getting from this is mori is black

>> No.28997549

>>28997440
>that most people are tired of that message no matter how prevalent it is in a song.
Proof next thread?

>> No.28997562

Aw I wanted to shitpost with the songs themes

>> No.28997591

>>28996204
Since no one else wants to actually discuss this I will.
>R.I.P. is half hyping herself up and half calling out the people who thought an anime girl couldn't be cool. Half of a fuck the haters song.
>Guh is her catchphrase but in the context of the song also means Give Up Haters. All of it is a fuck the haters song.
>OWTH is more of "get on my level first before you can criticize me" song. Not quite fuck the haters but they're also a big part of the song. More like she expects better from them.
>Holy Shitto is the most fuck the haters song she's ever done. Literally the name is calling them jealous of her.
>LetW is more like "nothing matters, especially not your insults because the world is ending anyway." It's more like a song about her saying the hate doesn't bother her.
>Make Em' Afraid is more like she's hyping herself up to scare the haters and how she's better than them.
>Huge W isn't a fuck the haters song, it's more of a fuck everything song. It's her wanting to go out in a blaze of glory.

>> No.28997600

>>28997562
ironic shitposting is shit posting

>> No.28997671 [DELETED] 

>>28997508
They are gonna stop caring in a week, it's been like this every single application.

>> No.28997706

Do I give the ENStars a chance today like Mori asked? I'm kind of worried that the "furry" is a twitch frog, but Alucard's knockoff cousin seems okay so far

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>>28997600
Well then have a Mori

>> No.28997720 [DELETED] 

>>28996731
hey modchama, you kinda missed this off-topic one

>> No.28997742

>>28997549
The views?

>> No.28997791

>>28997706
what I did yesterday was skipping the obvious fag and watching the guy that could be cool, so I'll do this again and probably not be disappointed

>> No.28997789

>>28997591
This is pretty close to my own thoughts on it when I listed those. I suppose "hate" was more the common theme than "owning the haters"

>> No.28997800 [DELETED] 

Live again is an "own the haters" song

>> No.28997801

>>28997706
Why not? Its not like the stream can hurt you.

>> No.28997803

>>28997591
Thank you for a well intentioned post with some thought behind it.
I think we can all agree that "owning the haters" is a topic that comes up regularly with her as a single line or a minor theme of her songs. She is different from say, someone like Watame who has never made any reference to such a subject in her songs.

>> No.28997820

>>28997742
Did you unironically say normies care about lyrics?

>> No.28997924

>>28997803
The hardest rap Watame has done is a compliment rap, you're asking a lot.

>> No.28997941

>>28997803
Watame has songs?

>> No.28998007 [DELETED] 

Let It Go is an own the haters song because Elsa is saying the cold doesn't bother her.

>> No.28998057

>>28997803
>>28997789
It's less own the haters and more that it's a recurring theme in her music. Whether she wants them to better themselves or she doesn't care about them, or she's just calling them jealous, it's definitely consistent in her music. But then she's also got a boatload of songs that don't have anything to do with haters.
I think it's more that the latter half of SN has those themes which is why it seems more prevalent now.

>> No.28998061

>>28997924
I'm pointing out the differences in styles of artists they are. Mori has a... well I don't think she's in a rut, but she's got a subject matter that you could say is associated with her.

>> No.28998069

>>28997803
but not so different from Suisei, that did
it's a theme that comes up, more so when what you do or believe in is controversial, more so when you encountered active resistance against what you do
either way, you're overvaluing people's ability to get tired with a recurring reference (not even a theme)

if anything, people are just getting tired of the release pace, building hype requires a refractory period
and once again, building an outside audience requires appealing to something they know - SN tried to do it by mainstream sounding tracks, but covers are more safer and accessible option

>> No.28998097

>>28998007
Damnit I laughed

>> No.28998122

>>28997742
That's not proof for your claim. What's the proof that the views are specifically due to people being tired of her "own the haters" mentality?

>> No.28998174 [DELETED] 

nevermind, new janny appears to just be a fag, he'd rather spam delete some rando over a post that actually breaks a rule

>> No.28998223

>>28997820
Are you going to say most people don't care about the meaning behind Mori's music? I thought a big part of this discussion was that songs like EoaL do so well because of their relatable lyrics.

>> No.28998235

>>28998057
Which is why UnAlive feels like the superior release.

People need no further comparison. It's a tale of two releases. One made out of pure confidence to venture into the unknown. The other filled with questions, doubts

>> No.28998273

Reaper ka Rapper literally has the line
>cue the haters typing sell
It's an own the haters song

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https://twitter.com/nikeytina/status/1550783886023872519?s=21&t=zgg88HTNWYjkGVNv9N8eMg

>> No.28998351

>>28998061
Fueled by spite is what she is.
She needs to prove people wrong, in a huge way. Praise doesn't do as much for her.
Remember she was told to never sing, rap, draw, and be an entertainer and she did it anyway?
If people are mad you're doing something right.
Hell we joked about fire on mute being something Calvin is gonna use.
>>28998223
Yep! We the fans that watch the streams and care are a minority, people just go with what sounds good. That's the majority of those million of Spotify plays.

>> No.28998398

>>28998235
UnAlive was less polished but had more variety and a lot of heart. SN is polished, and technically sounds very nice but it's more generic.

>> No.28998534

Maybe telling Mori that UnAlive was a step forward is the best course of action.

>> No.28998624

>>28998534
Considering she said the 'next project' is moving away from SN's more mainstream approach, I think she's already aware of that.

>> No.28998631

>>28998534
Just give me a rock song Mori....at least one

>> No.28998719

>>28998122
Is there a reason otherwise? And saying YT is culling views sounds like cope unless you can prove it.

>> No.28998727

>>28997801
blue boy's mouth noises inflicted physical damage to me so that's actually wrong

>> No.28998757

Considering that the biggest complaint about UnAlive is the 3d MVs rather than the actual content.

Also, It's really sad that Mori never gave it a CD release.

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>>28997803
>we

>> No.28998881

>>28998223
If your average jackass cared about lyrics then Hey Ya wouldn't be played at weddings and Born in the USA wouldn't be used by politicians.

>> No.28998897

>>28998534
Become a rock singer Mori. It's your destiny

>> No.28998931

>>28997706
I wonder how much Mori is getting paid to shill them so much.

>> No.28998933

>>28998757
Yeah, I'm really sad I can't stack it next to my other CD's. The vinyl is cool but the CD is way more practical.

>> No.28998987

>>28998727
>anon is weak to gay

>> No.28999006

>>28998719
literally like 3 different potential reasons were raised in this thread, so if you're not baiting you're just illiterate/stupid

>> No.28999036

>>28998757
We got the vinyl and she said she asked for it but couldn't be done because SN was also a cd

>> No.28999061

I think the lesson to be learned is: Argue in good faith, ironic shitposting is shitposting.

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All this song discussion made me listen to resting power again and now I'm sad because it's never gonna shine. I also remembered that we didn't get ouroboros on the concert

>> No.28999141

>>28998719
>Is there a reason otherwise?
I'm saying that there's no proof that this is the cause when it could by any number of factors
>YT algorithm
>speed that she's churned out songs this year has caused fatigue
>people might not like the songs from a taste/quality perspective that has nothing to do with "own the haters"
>etc
The mentality of "my reasoning must be right even if I don't have actual proof to back up my claim" is very odd, yet so prevalent on this board.
>And saying YT is culling views sounds like cope
I didn't mention this so I have no idea why the fuck you're bringing that up.

>> No.28999151

>>28998881
This is just the "fighting characters are just functions" from the days of MVCI
>'If you were to actually think about it, these songs are just sounds' - Cover talks about representing song meanings in Hololive'

>> No.28999154

>>28999077
Make a fan MV for it and get Morio to witness you.

>> No.28999178

>>28999061
Now if only they would do something about the constant off-topic discussion.

>> No.28999192 [DELETED] 

>>28996731
janny, you might be hard of hearing or thinking because this post doesn't discuss activity of a vTuber, but you seem to be pretty keen on ignoring the report

>> No.28999194

>>28997803
I figure she probably won't be doing more with Watame, so if you were hoping for some sort of influence there it's unlikely.
>>28998057
I think it might be a problem of the two. She has a lot of songs so people have to make choices, and people might be either tired of that theme or just finding others more appealing.

>> No.28999196

>>28996687
i hope she bullies Kiara sexually.

>> No.28999218

>>28998931
I doubt she is getting paid but in my opinion her doing this shit is getting bit too weird.
Maybe it is overcompensating for the other EN members as they have been pretty silent about them but that is still not a greatest look.

>> No.28999239

>>28997801
>he doesn't know about voodoo curses attached to streams
legit ngmi

>> No.28999296 [DELETED] 

>>28996731
sorry, jannychama but it's still not the correct post, but I believe you can do better
just try boiling your drinking water

>> No.28999359

>>28999218
Eigo Jouzu!

>> No.28999400

>>28999218
Did you have a problem with her being excited for Council and HoloX on both Twitter and in chat?

>> No.28999516

>>28999400
No but I really wanted Mori to do sims with the JP's or maybe the fanbases if not with myth and council. I don't even know Tempus enough to enjoy seeing her make them.

>> No.28999517

>>28999400
No because they are girls. That's what they keep saying without typing it in full

>> No.28999523 [DELETED] 

>>28999296
nope, still wrong, you're terrible at your job and I don't really expect to hold onto it for too long
maybe you'll even selfdoxx like the last brownie that was one for approx. 3 days before they booted him

>> No.28999568

>>28999516
they'll love all the free publicity

>> No.28999601

>>28998931
Zero. She actually gives a fuck about Hololive/Cover.

>> No.28999692

>>28999523
>>28999568
E
>>28999516
>No but I really wanted Mori to do sims with the JP's or maybe the fanbases if not with myth and council. I don't even know Tempus enough to enjoy seeing her make them.
She said she was gonna do original charas anyway so all shreks.
She never wanted to do en or jp

>> No.28999716

>>28998931
she does it for free

>> No.28999800

>>28999601
Then why is she putting more effort in shilling Holostars than her fellow Hololive members? Where was this effort for Council or ID3?

>> No.28999816

>>28999692
JP would have been cool, especially since she would have done her gang of friends instead of just Pekora, FBK, Korone, Miko, Marine.

>> No.28999831

>>28999006
>>28999141
Well then there's no proof for any of it or anything we say, it could be anything affecting her views. I guess I can only speak personally when I say I'm tired of including her haters in more songs lately, but I know it's not something that will be permanent and this year specifically has given her plenty of ammo for attacking them.
But there's also been a lot of good too, so I was hoping for something more uplifting like a song about being proud she's made big or how grateful she is to everyone, note that I'm not saying she isn't grateful just that a change of small pace for the songs would be nice.

>> No.28999841

>>28999692
If making the homos saves us from the first Sims stream from being Shrek and Sandler abominations and maybe convinces her to do other members instead, I'll be more than happy

>> No.28999876

>>28999400
She didn't spam them this hard and create streams to shill them.

>> No.28999894

>>28999800
>council
ACTUAL RETARD.
>ID3
Fair enough, but she was also elsewhere for a lot of that.

>> No.28999919

>>28999800
She literally made part of Sana's intro and did lyrics for Mumei's songs soooo

>> No.28999930

>>28999831
>Small change of pace
Goddamnit

>> No.28999967

>>28999517
Yes. It's fine to support Hololive.

>> No.29000004

Don't fall for it another thread. Literally the same talking points being brought up by the same incoherent fucks.

>> No.29000048

>>28999800
She literally wrote lyrics for A New Start you retarded fucking threadshitter

>> No.29000149

>>29000048
Now if he was talking about tweets only he'd have you.
But who give a shit about twitter? What a terrible website.

>> No.29000160

>>28999841
youre way more optimistic than me if you think she isnt going to shrekify, sandlerize, or cowboy-beam each member in some way

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Ever since the concert Mera Mera keeps creeping into my head every few hours.

>> No.29000357

>>29000308
Make 'Em Afraid's been my earworm for the week

>> No.29000416

>>28999894
She was also in the middle of preparing for final concert stuff when they were announced but still managed

>> No.29000588

>>29000416
But I thought the concert was pre-recorded?

>> No.29000595

>>29000416
eh, tweeting is really low effort

>> No.29000598

>>29000308
I just watched it again and holy shit that performance and Holy Shitto will be stuck in my mind for a long long time

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>>28992597
How does one post derail this thread so fast

>> No.29000775

Fauna has reminded me that Mori needs to learn how to blow into her asmr mic without sounding like a fucking tornado
also 1 on 1 collab doko

>> No.29000904

>>29000775
doesn't fauna have the more expensive one?

>> No.29000996

>>29000048
And she's doing a whole Sims stream to shill Tempus.

>> No.29001083

>>29000775
Mori will have a 1 on 1 collab with Tempus before Fauna or Mumei.

>> No.29001086

>>29000996
I get you, I think what you're saying is Where's the 1on1 Mumei collab Mori?????????

>> No.29001161

>>29000904
She does

>> No.29001190

>>29000904
Reminder that it was the discordfags who were telling Mori to not upgrade her ASMR mic. I know you prudish fags lurk here.

>> No.29001224

>>29000904
I don't think that really matters when Mori is probably just blowing into the mic too hard

>> No.29001282

>>29001224
she does, gentle blowing is perfectly attainable with a 3Dio

>> No.29001435

Don’t freak outbguys, but I think there might be impostors amogus.

>> No.29001489

>>29001435
you mean amonGUHs?

>> No.29001505

>>28999400
No but you can't really compare that to what she is doing now.

>> No.29001553

>>29001435
Sus

>> No.29001601

>>28999841
If those two are only option then no sims stream at all would be just fine.

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Does anyone else not care for her ASMR and just finds it cringe

>> No.29001617

>>29000773
Sometimes someone makes a post so retarded it drops the IQ of the collective by at least 30 points

>> No.29001623

honestly this tempus sims saviourfag is a weird angle to hit the thread wtih, if I was a shitposter I'd just claim shes chasing numbers from debut hype.

>> No.29001691

>>29001605
Fuck you

>> No.29001695

>>29001605
thats a bit of odd phrasing, because theres people like me who generally just don't get affected by ASMR.

>> No.29001698

>>29001605
no i love it

>> No.29001733

>>29001605
Me

>> No.29001827

>>29001623
Don't you think it is weird though? Like she has never put this much effort to hype up another gen.

>> No.29001858

>>29001691
>>29001695
>>29001698
I don't see the appeal. It's just whispering for the most part.

>> No.29001889

>>29001623
Already leaked into the brains of at least two of her regulars, gonna be a fun drama week when they shit up her general chat

>> No.29001962

>>29001889
Thats weird, which ones?

>> No.29002036

>>29001889
>Already leaked into the brains of at least two of her regulars
Wait, people outside of here has noticed it as well?

>> No.29002095

>>29001605
I like asmr but Mori's is a huge miss for me
also traumatic

>> No.29002136

>>29001889
If they are smart rather than give her shit, they would just tell her to dont do it so they can grow without placing a type on them

>> No.29002143

>>29001827
HoloX..

>> No.29002165

>>29001623
>chasing numbers
>from the homos
Good joke.

>> No.29002206

>>29002036
Nah they're both herebeats
>>29001962
Not saying, I hope they just fucking skip the stream though. If you think what's she's doing it that bad you two just don't give her the views

>> No.29002220

>>29001827
I get the feeling she knows the Homos are at a huge disadvantage already by being men so she's doubling down in her saviorfagging and pretty much outside of Bae and Ollie, no one else really mentions them.

>> No.29002268

>>29002036
While they aren't viewing it as a bad thing like here, some other places have found it strange how hard she has been going.

>> No.29002328

>>29002143
She had a stream just to shill them and constantly replied to, retweeted, and liked all of their tweets?

>> No.29002331

>>29001605
when she actually treats it seriously (the best example being the sole prerecorded one), it's great
but that's her content in general

>> No.29002406

>>29002136
that's actually the argument
she's kinda going against what she said about them standing on their own

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>>29002328
If you're not gonna engage in good faith, I'm just not gonna bother
So all you get is a "retard"

>> No.29002501

>>29001605
No, on the contrary she’s one of the only holos who’s ASMR I enjoy. The other is Polka.

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>>29002406
I think I disagree with that, actually
Debut week is important for having eyes on you, and it's good to be able to hit the ground running with as many people being able to see as realistically possible
Not letting them stand on their own would be more along the lines of constant collabs to try and funnel numbers, which isn't something that works really but the idea is tangible

>> No.29002706

>>29001605
after the last ASMR stream you're gonna call that cringe? really?

>> No.29002710

>>29002331
The prerecorded one wasn’t really true ASMR though. More like sleep hypnosis.

>> No.29002719

>>29002220
>pretty much outside of Bae and Ollie, no one else really mentions them
Yeah I have already started to see a lot people blaming other members for ignoring homos.

>> No.29002746

>>29002706
the last ASMR stream was Dorfromantic
which was pretty cringe, ASMR and gaming really don't mix, Mori

>> No.29002890

>>29002746
Get used to it because there's another one tomorrow

>> No.29002921

>>29002890
Mori whispering about cats is exactly what I'd like right now, actually

>> No.29002948

>>29002746
>>29002890
>>29002921
the only kind of games that would actively be enhanced by ASMR would be text (but not dialogue) heavy games with some chill mood, some walking sims or shit
Stray gonna be shit when she's forced to give muted reactions to not blow out our fucking ears

>> No.29002959

>>29002662
Honestly the whole thing is being blown out of proportion so quickly if hadn't checked in here through out the day I would have thought people were just losing their mind due to jealousy

>> No.29002973

>>29002948
I'm fully expecting ears to be blown out when the enemies appear

>> No.29002993

>>29002746
I thought that stream was great. Super comfy. I do love the dedicated ASMR or ASMR drawing more though.

>> No.29003014

>>29002499
It's the truth. Care to prove me wrong?

>> No.29003090

>>29002993
it'd be comfy without an ASMR mic
it just extra fuckery with the setup for no actual gain outside of clickbaity title
just do normal ASMR ffs

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>>29002973
I'm fully prepared for it, and will love it

>> No.29003175

>>29002973
Loud OH FUCK OH FUCKs while she's running away is gonna be great

>> No.29003229

>>29002719
Ina and Kiara retweeted the announcements, Ame is supporting the best way imo with a couple replies (not overboard like Mori), and Gura hasn't acknowledged them at all. Outside of Bae, I don't think Council and IRyS have either

>> No.29003230

>>28992909
it came out at the same time the EP released, The MV does nothing to elevate the song. I would rather just listen to MEA with the rest of the EP on spotify
I would also rather rewatch the concert than listen to the EP
the song isnt bad but the MV is low effort

>> No.29003238

>>29003014
Retard

>> No.29003266

>>29003014
nta, but you'll be arguing on quantitative aspects while ignoring quality ones like assisting Mumei with her song, early referencing Kronii's music interests, entirety of relation with Bae that lasts to this day, how welcoming and helpful she was with IRyS etc. etc.
all while ignoring that Mori changed in some regards, like Twitter engagement in general

>> No.29003361

>>29003266
But that bit was specifically about HoloX?

>> No.29003454

>>29003230
>it came out at the same time the EP released, The MV does nothing to elevate the song. I would rather just listen to MEA with the rest of the EP on Spotify
it's not like it's killing it on Spotify either, unlike CapSule, MeraMera or even HS, it's not even in the Top 10 recent most listened tracks

it just plainly flopped, it's fine to admit it, musicians will have shit that flops
I still like the song, it's honestly my fav on the EP, but that's a fair statement to make

>> No.29003457

>>29003361
If you're gonna be a quantitative bitch, she's hung out with HoloX in person more than EN, so you can stuff sock in your mouth and go away

>> No.29003506

I can't wait to hear her gush about cats it's going to be so cute

>> No.29003544
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29003544

>>29003454
Numbers have rotted your fucking brain and diluted the definition of "flop"

>> No.29003579

>>29003361
you mean the people she took out for drinking, who she pulled into her Eikawa collabs as one of the first participants, whose Jump King streams she appeared in with regularity that became a meme - all despite still heavily doubting her japanese skills?
yeah, I think she was a great senpai to them as well

>> No.29003659

>>29003230
Do you think the new outfit would fix it the MVs themselves? Personally I think it would definitely help the views by showing off the new model.

>> No.29003686

>>29003544
it's relative, my dude
Eminem's flops have tens of millions of plays, but his peaks have billions
reviewers don't go "well, shit, this is doing good if we consider it from a perspective of a soundcloud artist"

>> No.29003866

>>29003579
Did all of that for them by the time of their debut? Wow.

>> No.29003868

>>28992909

This happens to artists all the time. I can't remember who it was, but they were famous and joking about how the song they loved the most on their CD was a complete bomb and the song they didn't really like was the one that blew up and everybody wants them to play at shows.

So you know, they play the song the fans want.

>> No.29003938

>>29003506
She'll be gushing about Tempus instead.

>> No.29003939

>>29003868
kek, her ending with RIP feels funny now
she's a good girl

>> No.29003955

>>29003868
>"Play Wonderwall!"

>> No.29003983

>>29003868
EoaL...

>> No.29004261

>>29003983
What? Everyone loves that song though?

>> No.29004302

>>29003454
it came out with the EP
I dont listen to it on repeat like I might if she just released a song, I listen to it with the whole album, so it gets played 1/6th of the time
>>29003659
New outfit would have drastically improved holy shitto, wouldnt have done anything for MEA which was just panning over 2 drawings for the entire song

>> No.29004372

https://twitter.com/irys_en/status/1550987887659085824 something is wrong with Irys

>> No.29004383

>>29003868
Reminds me of how she talked about Guh when YM dropped.

>> No.29004399

>>29004261
She wanted to scrap EoaL initially is what I think he's referring to

>> No.29004402

>>29004261
that's the point, she thought it was so bad that she was going to scrap it and it turned out to be one of her best.

>> No.29004476

>>29004402
She didn't think it was bad. She thought it was too personal to share.

>> No.29004508

>>29003229
I agree that nobody is doing anything wrong but to a lot people they are.
And they are especially mad at Gura.

>> No.29004534

>>29004372
Yeah, who the fuck doesn't like beans?

>> No.29004609
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29004609

>>29004508
I'll be completely honest with you, I don't consider greynames to be humans
Who cares what non-humans think?

>> No.29004643

>>29004372
She's been recording a lot again, I hope she doesn't permanently damage her voice or anything like that.

>> No.29004680

>>29004508
Source is your ass I presume?

>> No.29004706

>>29004508
But Gura is the most based one and the only one who had the balls to flat out say that they weren't allowed to overlap.

>> No.29004757

>>29004643
I don't get it. Mori has so many more songs. Why does Irys's recording hurt here worse?

>> No.29004771

>>29004609
same
but with simps who pay to watch girls on the internet

>> No.29004809

>>29004771
Go back

>> No.29004927

>>29004757
IRyS producers treat her like a Vocaloid and give her songs where every one is the equivalent of UnAlive in terms of stretching her range

>> No.29004981

>>29004757
hits everyone different, but IRyS probably pushes harder at the extremes of her range

>> No.29004998

>>29004927
But with fewer she just practises and does a few takes and moves on right? Mori would still to spend more time recording

>> No.29005007

>>29004757
Mori most likely spends more time writing than recording, while IRyS ends up having to do the opposite

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