/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>Mikeneko
Twitter: https://twitter.com/95rn16
Fanbox: https://mikenekoko.fanbox.cc/
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC54JqsuIbMw_d1Ieb4hjKoQ
Twitcasting: https://twitcasting.tv/95rn16
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mikeneko.x/
Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@minyan84

>Nazuna Amemiya
Profile: https://www.vshojo.com/talent/nazuna
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5gs8EbpwbfQvrhizJx60TA
Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/amemiyanazuna
Twitter: https://twitter.com/AmemiyaNazuna

https://litter.catbox.moe/urii0q.m4a

>>28987971
The culture changed. Three bunkers got leaked. They're huddled up in the third one on Discord and have no need to dump things here because their secret club is all decked out.

Inb4 a 400 post timeloop

You don't even know how much i regret not recording the stream, i did it for all the others but i was partly worried about running her stream and the movie at the same time while recording and hey she will leave an archive won't she.. for fucks sake i even have two different recordings of the same twitcast i made myself.

POST VOD

>>28988079
>Don't act like I don't know who you are, cunt.
This is the first time I've ever freaked out about this because it makes me fucking sick that all of you are just like the chatters in her twitcast
Like that one dude who claims to be a gachikoi of hers but when she asked "it's alright if I marry a girl right" he said some shit like "I'll go pick out a wedding present"
You "people" are fucking disgusting and incompetent and you never once actually cared for her or loved her because you will NEVER fight for her

>>28988175
either I'm going deaf or the sound is shit
but holy crap that question was worded horribly, what the fuck?

>>28988175
is this audio for ants?

>>28988295
The volume seems to have gotten messed up, I can reupload it but louder if you want

>>28988395
That would really help

>>28988395
Yes, also please dump the whole vod somewhere.

This is going to be a multiple thread ordeal isn't it

>>28988443
It's almost time to sleep in Jakarta so.

https://youtu.be/41QdZzifx3Y
https://twitter.com/AmemiyaNazuna/status/1550917021923422208

>>28988443
yes
now shut up
post wife

>>28988175
Is that her reading the first 2 words and stopping before starting again at the start, or is she reading the commenters name before the question as per usual? I assume it's the prior because it sounds like she says hokanoossan twice...

>>28988632
if I remember correctly it was the prior, I think this starts in the middle of her pondering what the question is asking.

Anons here are sperging harder than the nips, I'm impressed.

>>28988721
If the nips aren't sperging, there's no reason for us to.

>>28988721
Are the Nips even sperging about this?

>>28988721
Because the nips know exactly what she said

>>28988777
they are, take a look on 5ch

It's 4am in Japan and she hasn't sleep yet

>>28988721
The actual gachikoi on the JP side were driven off public spaces long ago.

>>28988838
>5ch

>>28988866
Ours were too, have you forgotten the bunkers? And then they all posted anonymously anyway.

>>28988838
that other anon already said it but it bears repeating
>5ch

What VShojo members would you be fine with collabing with Nazuna
https://poal.me/tk1ell

>>28989144
Aethel

>>28989144
None of the EN ones

>>28989144
Anyone but Vei.

>>28989144
Veibae.

>>28989144
>Success
Clearly the stupid bitch didn't watch the stream

>>28989144
I heard mouse is "the good one" so I guess her and kson. Anyone else I just don't care for.

>>28988439
https://litter.catbox.moe/w7cb8t.m4a
I tried my best to make it louder

what is even the problem

>>28989425
vshojo

>>28989425
She didn't deny collabing with males, she said she would if invited

>>28989425
Shion said Marine tickled Aqua to death part two.

>>28989425
Much ado about nothing as usual

>>28989425
>"I won't collab with males"
>"I will collab with males if they invite me"

>>28989489
Nazuna admitting that she is open to doing male collabs is nothing?

Here we go again, see ya next thread

>>28988135
So you don't deny that neither you nor anybody here who says they'd be fine if she collabs with men were actually fans of her before Feb? Because if you did deny that, you'd post proof of it being wrong. But you can't. Because I'm right.

Anons, it's clear that some people /here/ are very retarded and will ask a translated and very confusing question to a girl who's not all that bright herself. Can we please just craft a fucking question regarding the issue that is in a way so that it's sounds like we don't want her to collabs with guys rather than we do and make it clear enough so we could put this to rest without a confusing as fuck Nip answer.

She's not admitting to anything. She said in the most roundabout way while being polite that she's not focused on that right now. she just wants to collab with vshojo

>>28989475
>she said she would if invited
>>28989535
>I will collab with males if they invite me

This isn't even a simple bad translation, you made this line up out of thin air

Fuck male collabs. I will never accept male collabs. And I know she won't either.

>>28989586
Stop responding to antis and treating them like fans, for fuck sake anon. Jesus Christ, will I have to come over there and tard wrangle you myself?
Just take some time out from the thread, alright? You'll get yourself worked up by some anti, menhera post about it and feel like shit the next morning. And trust me, this is coming from a self hating menhera. Ok?

Still waiting for evidence, but I don't like what we have so far, to be honest. Yeah, it does sound like what someone beating around the bush would say if they assumed the person asking wanted that to happen, but it's still not only missing a no, but leaving the possibility of a yes open.
Just searched for a random clip of someone else talking about this and got this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dajiv4XqOIU
She beats around the bush, praises them, wonders if her initial reaction towards them was too cold and everything, but still puts her foot down and says no, she says she doesn't feel comfortable with it, and that's it, end of story. And you instantly see people in chat reassuring her that her initial cold reaction was fine before she got to the point where she still gave the "no".
If you just don't mind her collabing with men, that's one thing, but if you do mind and just don't want to hurt her feelings by expressing your thoughts as a fan, you're just a spineless faggot. Wouldn't hurt to get a few playful ダメs in chat when she brought it up, for example.

>>28989616
>she's not focused on that right now
Of course she isn't, she just joined the company. But what about the future?

>>28989425
Thread will never miss an opportunity to doompost, sperg, or bite bait
So here we are

>>28989616
>she just wants to collab with vshojo
So the males on the vshojo are fine of course since they are 箱内 and will be on the minecraft server, after all she wants to interact with vshojo

>>28989666
this. just be polite, but let her know if you don't like male collabs.

>>28989304
Can you upload the whole stream? Even if it's just audio?

>>28989731
>males of vshojo
https://www.vshojo.com/talent Where?

When's the fan gangbang membership meetup happening?

>>28989731
>men in VShojo
Anon.....

>>28989780
>>28989799
Even better:
>males on the vshojo

>>28989304
okay, i listened to the clip and it's fine.
the question was definitely formulated in an extremly dumb way
she said she doesn't have anything to do with males
and then goes more or less wait was the question about that?
the dumb thing is that she talks about wether she should collab with a broader selection
that was not her considering collabing with males
she just kept thinking about collabs in general and kept talking
well if you are schizo and don't really know her i can see how it could look bad

>>28989799
>>28989832
vshojo server, minecraft server

>>28989900
The one that doesn’t exist yet

hope the faggot that asked the question is proud

>>28989900
Oh, you mean that thing that's inactive? The one where they have to set up a new server because the old one requires a shitton of mods to get onto, right?

>>28989863
>everyone who disagrees with me is a schizo

I shouldn't be smug about it because I don't want it to happen, but I told you.
I fucking warned you things would change now that she's in vshojo.

>>28989963
Anyone with half a brain cell would see that coming.

>>28989954
>anti posting against the most reasonable post in the thread
Yeah, that's how I knew we were being raided.

>>28989768
just post towa with rushia as thanks
https://litter.catbox.moe/sji6iw.m4a

>>28989863
This, she didn't say she was open to male collabs. For some reason small brain transformed the question into a "will you do more collabs?" And she responded only if she's approached. But she wasn't referring to males

>>28990043
She says men and males... Anon-chama...

>>28990011
based
thank you anon

>>28990043
*I meant her small brain

>>28990043
do you not understand even basic Japanese?

>>28990011
I don't have the picture on me right now, but how about this banger tweet from her:
https://twitter.com/AmemiyaNazuna/status/1548568244386091013

>>28990087
That's in response to the first question. But she changes the question herself into "expanding" her collabs(not with males)

>>28989666
This
People here are acting as if the faggots are the fans sperging out over it, the absolute gall of tourists here trying to gaslight her own fucking fans into falling out of love for her. Anybody that wants her gachikoi to care less about male collabs does not, and has NEVER loved her nor are they interested in her well-being whatsoever. And any gachikoi here that lets this thread mindbreak them into coping over this and begrudgingly accepting it is a brain-broken retard.

>>28989940
>she could have given a proper answer but no she can never be at fault
You might as well just accept that you will cope with whatever she does so no point getting worked up over it

>>28990135
Exactly this, because why would she even think further about doing collabs with males? She knows we don't like them and she doesn't want to do them. There is literally nothing to discuss.

I'm surprised no one's talking about her basically saying she's wants to join an apex tournament with guys

https://pastebin.com/7VV5U1h3
https://pastebin.com/7VV5U1h3
https://pastebin.com/7VV5U1h3
same pass as before
noticed something

>>28990168
>Anybody that wants her gachikoi to care less about male collabs does not, and has NEVER loved her
this thread is being raided by vshojo fans. what do you expect from people who enjoy getting cucked by nyanners and veibae on stream?

>>28990196
she WHAT

>>28990187
His question sucked ass, maybe next time keep in mind you're dealing with Nazuna, someone who's not exactly smart to begin with
He should've posted the question here so that people could've helped make it sound non-retarded and clear

>>28990264
I just want to clarify that we also get raided by catalog friends, not all of them are vshojo fans
/#/ is one of the most pro-tribal Hololive threads and she has multiple dedicated antis there.

>>28989304
Transcript and tl of the question reading:
>IvanさんThank you!
>"他のおっさん。。。ななちゃん大好きです。他のおっさんとコラボしたらうらやましい感じ--"
>他のおっさん?他のおっさんis誰?ななな男性と絡むってことないだろうな
>男性だって。。。なななマジで知りあいがいないから
>おっさんっていったら。。。1000。。。5000歳ぐらい?6000、7000歳ぐらいかな

>Ivan-san thank you!
>"other middle aged men... I love Nana-chan. If you collab with other middle aged men I'll feel jealou--"
>"other middle aged men?" Other middle aged men (hokanoossan) is who??? Nanana doesn't get involved with men.
>men... Nanana seriously doesn't have any male friends
>If you say ossan is that like... 1000... 5000 years old? About 6 or 7000 years old maybe.
After this she reads chat comments clowning on the question and then it goes into the transcript the other anon wrote which I posted a tl for in the last thread. She seemed offended by the question like she thought it might have been an anti and was defensive about it imo but that's just my interpretation from her tone

I hate vshojo

next time just ask her straight up if there will be male collabs and that you would be uncomfortable with them
why do you have to be so autistic about everything, just be clear about what you feel

>>28990011
Well, with video it's even better but that's the cuute part of wife/darling starting at around 1:51:00

>>28990397
transcript and my tl of the second piece:
>男の人とコラボか?まぁでもなんかあれなのかな…
>お友達を広めていた方がいいのかな
>でもなななすごい空気読めないからとんでもないこと言っちゃいそう
>女の子の気持ちなら大体は分かる…でもなんかな
>まずは、vshojoの子達と遊びたい
>マイクラとアペとか、アペ好きだから、アペとか、AMONGUSとか、 それでも十分なんだよな
>なんか、誘われたら遊ぶ程度かな。誰も声をかけて来ないと思うけど。
>箱内ってことじゃないよ なんかこう知らない人達 知らない人達なんも接点がないから声をかけて来ないと思うけど vshojoの子達はいっぱい声をかけてくれる たくさんチャットくれる

>Collabs with males? Well, but thats a bit...
>Maybe it would be good to make more friends?
>But Nanana is really bad at reading the air (tl note: 空気読み means judging how to act in social situations) I feel like I might say something outrageous
>I can mostly understand girls feelings but... But how can I say...
>First of all I want to play with the vshojo girls
>Minecraft or apex, cause they like apex, apex or among us, that will be enough
>Like, if I was invited I'd play. But I don't think anyone would reach out to me.
>It's not about I'll only collab within the company.* It's just that people I don't really know... People I don't know I don't really contact them so I don't think theyd reach out to me. But the vshojo girls have reached out a lot, they've sent me lots of chats. *(tl note: she says 箱内 which from my understanding is an idol term that refers to members within the same unit or group as opposed to from another idol group. She literally says "it's not 箱内", my translation takes some artistic license with what I think she means).

>don't worry, nothing will change just because she's in vshojo

>>28990318
anon, there is a reason why he did not post here

>>28990397
KEK. You retards.

As for the Minecraft server, I believe Mouse said it's starting next week, Mouse will definitely will invite Connor and Nyan would do the same with Aethel, but as a long time fan let me tell you that Connor barely collabs with any VTuber without Mouse, as for Aethel he's an already helped them with translating Nazuna but again he will probably play a lot with Nyan, and if it's like the past server there's a lot of /lig/'s invited (mostly females) but interactions barely exists (specially without the mod that they had https://youtu.be/ytnElNhVQDs?t=26)), if anything Nazuna will end up playing a lot with Mouse because she was 24/7 on the server, and I don't think something like the Kson collab could happen without an in-between like Mouse.

So in many ways, there will small interactions, but I think for now there's nothing to worry about the server and collabing with males (for now)

>>28989799
>>28989832
VShonen (male division) is a “existing thing", for now at least, is something some orbiters of VShojo are interested. I believe they possess the legal rights, and trying to use the website would redirect you to VShojo. So don't think the idea is too far from becoming reality.

t. tourist vshojofag reading about your discussion.

>>28990397
Why the hell did they word it that way? Was it some retard from here using Google translate?

>>28990675
I would have assumed VShounen is copyrighted as well just to prevent someone else taking the name and profiting off of the name. It's a common thing in the corporate world.

>>28990397
Ahhh, so the anon in the previous thread was talking about a different question.
Idk if she got exactly the question but it's more clear how dismissive she is of it. She is even a bit offended at being related to other men.

>>28990397
>Nanana doesn't get involved with men.
>men... Nanana seriously doesn't have any male friends
>>Nanana doesn't get involved with men.
>>men... Nanana seriously doesn't have any male friends
>Nanana doesn't get involved with men.
>men... Nanana seriously doesn't have any male friends
>>Nanana doesn't get involved with men.
>>men... Nanana seriously doesn't have any male friends
>Nanana doesn't get involved with men.
>men... Nanana seriously doesn't have any male friends
>>Nanana doesn't get involved with men.
>>men... Nanana seriously doesn't have any male friends
>Nanana doesn't get involved with men.
>men... Nanana seriously doesn't have any male friends
>>Nanana doesn't get involved with men.
>>men... Nanana seriously doesn't have any male friends
>Nanana doesn't get involved with men.
>men... Nanana seriously doesn't have any male friends
>>Nanana doesn't get involved with men.
>>men... Nanana seriously doesn't have any male friends

>>28990799
Why is this post giving me vertigo

>>28990701
obviously

>>28990799
guess the alien doesn't count as man

>>28990799
Yet. They are no longer "never ever" tier, they are "maybe" tier now. And every month in vshojo will only make it more likely, not less likely.
The day will come. You know it, I know it, we all know it. We just didn't want to acknowledge it.

Well, listening to the audio instead of the transcript does help a little. Not because the transcript was wrong, but because it made me think it was one continuous speech, but it's broken down with moments of dead air, reading chat, superchat and all. It's not a constant stream of thought with each phrase leading into the next. I still think it's missing a more definitive answer, but it's not as concerning as it seemed in the transcript. I'm this anon, for what it's worth: >>28989666

>>28990318
Yeah, the question should have been worded in a way to make the jealousy over her interacting with men more clear. 羨ましい to me sounds more like you wish you were Connor than "don't do it or I'll kill myself". When she was teasing chat about the male voice actor question she used 嫉妬する.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJt-SBp7swM

>>28990675
So basically collabing with the girls means having to interact with their orbiters?

>>28990799
>遊ぶ相手で同性おらん

>>28990880
>Things get semi-resolved and you'restill doomposting
Go fuck yourself

>>28990868
>rrat slayed
>"mafu's cawwwk"
Every time.

>>28990880
>We just didn't want to acknowledge it
>We
speak for yourself, I always knew this would happen

>>28990944
No, it doesn't.

>>28990982
>get semi-resolved
She admits to being potentially open to collabing with men? How are things resolved?

>>28990982
Nothing is resolved, you're coping. I understand why, but don't be stupid now.

>>28990982
>Things get semi-resolved
when did that happen?

>>28990880
The day it happens is the day I leave this earth, because there will truly be nothing sacred left here

>>28990944
Probably, but it's more likely that both Mouse and Nyan are pretty understanding of Nazuna's points on collabing with males, if anything Aethel and Connor are “useful”, they definitely spoke and know jp better than Mouse and Nyan, so if anything they are good in-between in collabing.

>>28990744
Yeah she seems a bit hurt, she cuts off the question and if you listen to her tone when she says
>ななな男性と絡むってことないだろうな
she sounds kind of upset like she isn't sure if he is accusing her of something.

>>28991073
Here it is, now people are already accepting collabs with Aethel and Connor

>>28991017
the normal people are unfazed by something that doesn't matter because it's more or less confirmed to never become a large part of her content and the unicorns kill themselves if she even breathes the same digital air as a male for one picosecond, sounds like a win-win to me.

>>28991073
Jesus christ

>>28991073
>if anything Aethel and Connor are “useful”, they definitely spoke and know jp better than Mouse and Nyan, so if anything they are good in-between in collabing.
Justifying male collabs in advance. Who could have called it.

>>28991073
The absolute state of this thread
I miss fandead

>>28991101
Isn't that because the question sounds like it's accusing her of already interacting with ossan? Of course that would annoy her

I still can't get over how fucking cute of a nickname ななな is.
Bros, this may very well be her best form yet. Is it the final one? I hope so?

>>28991073
You clearly posted this to get (You)s

>>28991073
>Connor
I'm not even obsessed with her talking to males, but I will never forgive her if she collabs with that piece of shit.

>>28991248
This is the first time she has full ownership, so this could be her final form

>>28991226
Yes, it is ambiguous and worded in a schizo as fuck way, I can see her being unsure if it's an anti or an accusation rather than a genuine question.

>>28991287
>first time
lol what

>>28991248
The Nanana/banana thing always gets the bananachi song stuck in my head.

https://mega.nz/file/NcxyQSAS#6WQbTKYN9svE91JtYNosSqTeCsNGa_motCmFGq5feqg

Here is todays VOD

>>28991248
I prefer her previous forms

Rushia >>> Mikeneko >>> Nazuna

>>28991248
Wait for when she joins WACTOR in a few years, that will be the best form.

I'm not going to bother putting much thought into this whole situation. Wake me up when someone asks her in a clear way and she can actually give a clear answer.

>>28991329
Mikeneko is lacking compared to Rushia and Nazuna honestly

>>28991248
I really like it too

>>28991108
>>28991203
>>28991130
>>28991123
I'm the same anon, that posted this >>28990675
So I'm just a tourist trying to talk about what could happen from what I have seen before, and pointing out the possibility.
I respect your opinions and takes on Nazuna collabing with Males (and Nazuna's too obviously), and again it's not like Mouse and Nyan are clueless, they pretty much know all the in's and outs about what happened, and they would probably try to evade something like that happening again.
I like Nazuna, that's why I'm here, but I saw your discussion and got me confused lmao.

>>28991355
You could argue that the model doesn't quite compare quality wise but design wise it fits her to a point

>>28991355
Yeah. Lacking good porn.

>>28991384
見える!!!

>>28991395
>it's not like Mouse and Nyan are clueless
I know, they're snakes

>>28991384
i think the design is cute and i like the key prop a great deal.

>>28991355
she should get a micro bikini

>>28991329
This is fair, but I hope you're still enjoying the recent content. Love this art.

>>28991337
what's that

>>28991384
>nazuna is cute and funny!

>>28991463

Found another question that might upset you guys, don't even want to post it but this was asked.
>ぜひ、ブラジルを訪れてみてください。

>>28991329
I really like most of this art but as a footchad I am always turned off by the artist putting next to no effort into that foot.

>>28991583
it's over

>>28991583
I was the one who answered Brazil on debut when she asked where we were from, did you hear how interested she was? I won, bros. Sorry.

>>28991583
It's over. She'll get caught in a crossfire argument between Flamenco and Fluminense fans and get shot.

>>28991248
it's very cute, seems inevitable that we get an emote out of it

>it's only Twitch and its awful vod and member systems
>it's only twitter interactions with the vshojos, she's doing her own thing
>it's only a slight "maybe" to male collabs instead of the firm "no" from before
you are now here ^
>it's only her being on the MC server together with Aethel and Connor, they aren't collabing, she only said hello in chat
>it's only a collab with vshojo, she's fine with them asking her about cocks and sex
>it's just a big group collab with OTV, OTK, other ecelebs and western indies like bao, haruka etc.
>it's only one appearance on trash taste and kson is there too, she's gonna be fine

>>28991716
SHAZAM-SAMA!?

>retweeting at 5AM
nanana...

>>28991716
meds, for your own sake

She retweeted this one. She wants us to stare at her bum.

>>28991805
She was always an oshirichara

>>28991759
she's finally starting to get lots of good art, I dont blame her

>>28991716
Why is trash taste the worst step? No matter how bad ironic weebs are, objectively western ecelebs of OTV and OTK are worse. I will be dead the day she collabs with mizkif or hasan.

>>28991759
she was in the chat at 7 yesterday so it's still early.

>>28991870
For me I personally dislike Joey out the lot of them. He seems like an actual piece of shit

>>28991870
it's the boogeyman of the board

>>28991870
Because TT only does offcollabs, you have to actually visit them in person to be on their show

>>28991716
Stop

If any of the actual fans here let falseflagging antis like this >>28991115 gaslight you into thinking they're right, you're a god damn liar because you said you'd protect her and part of that is protecting her from antis who want nothing more than to take away what makes her happiest, her relationship with us.
Just FYI

>>28989088
>>28988889
lol the correct reaction

>>28991990
seek the outdoors if symptoms continue

>>28991395
Anon for the sake of the mental health of both her and her fanbase, please never post male collab cope again even with the best of intentions. We are hyperaware of anything that remotely sounds like pre-empted cope for a shift in what we have so things like
>"it's basically fine, it's ONLY that there's maybe there's the possibility of a tiny chance that..."
Is the literal worst thing you can do here
Please stop
For good

>>28991870
>>28991907
Because it's a fucking off-collab you demented schizos.

>>28992173
So guaranteed never to happen with her? Grand.

>>28992107
How about you go back to sucking cock on /vsj/

>>28992173
why specifically would it matter if it were an off-collab?

>>28992107
Go cuckpost elsewhere, you've got a whole general filled with likeminded faggots you can post there instead

>>28992203
That's exactly why it's the worst case scenario...

>>28992229
>why would it matter if she collabed with a man over Discord who is 6000 miles away or someone she actually meets in person, being in one room with him?
Are you actually asking why these aren't equally bad?

>>28992229
Is this a genuine question?

>>28992229
Probably just the usual "my GFE vtuber cannot ever breath the same air with filthy men" stuff that this board is full of.

Don't worry bros, I'll send her a supacha and make sure she gets it.
>なずなちゃん、他のおっさんとコラボしてくれー。ミージェラス!
What the FUCK bros why isn't she saying "no" directly to my question BROS

Stop biting the bait. She knows that her fans don't want it and she literally burned down her career once to prove something to her fans.

>>28992294
>>28992328
trash taste is a podcast with like 5 or 6 people in a room, and it's run by a company. it isn't cdawgva's casting couch, so if your specific concern wasn't that she would be sexually harassed on the set, what exactly was it? it's an extremely serious question that you should answer as much for yourself as for satisfying me.

>>28992421
I think it comes down to seeing the most dislikable people in the same room as her

>>28992421
Because meeting people in person is a more intimate encounter than talking to them over voice chat anon, you cannot seriously be this dense

>>28992372
>What the FUCK bros why isn't she saying "no" directly to my question BROS
I wonder if this scenario ever played out of her directly saying no
>I want to join Holostars
>don't do that, I don't even breath the same air in the same studio as them, i don't talk to them, i won't talk to them, you'd be farther apart to me than ever, stay just as my viewer
oh wait...

>>28992548
what about a podcast appearance is so "intimate" that you're threatened by this? is it just mental illness or is there something specific about that that is wrong or bothers you?

>>28992555
Well feel free to harass her into giving the answer you want with half a dozen butchered messages.

I'm a little worried she's commiting to too many games and not finishing any

>>28992407
Still has never denied it directly to us, not even on her hidden sub where she discussed her contract and other confidential secrets, even though she would deny other rumors gladly, she still has never denied anything about her 恋愛

>>28992643
What? the only new game she started is Stray
there's nothing to commit when it comes to APEX, Fall Guys or Smash

I know most of it is straight up bait because retards keep biting, but just in case any tourist is genuinely trying to apply the reddit meme of "I watch for entertainment lol, I'm not a loser" to this situation, watch this clip posted before:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJt-SBp7swM
This is her style of bantz, this is her content. This is how you're supposed to react. Your role in the skit isn't "of course I won't get jealous, it's just a professional voice actor, that would be unreasonable", your role is "I'M GONNA FUCKING KILL MYSELF". If you don't feel that way, you do it ironically, for fun. If you don't find it fun, then you don't find her content fun, and therefore you won't be watching her for entertainment.
The reason people disregard everything you say isn't just because they're gachikoi and you're not, it's because it's obvious you don't actually watch her. The gachis will be the most vocal about shitting on you, but the reason non gachis won't come to your defense is because you actually are wrong.

>>28992643
like other anon said, none of the games she's played are "finishable" aside from Stray. she's just been sticking to old favorites so far, thats all

>>28992792
Then why didn't you tell her you were going to kill yourself when she said that?

>>28992792
It's not a skit, if she actually collabs with men I will die

>>28992792
nothing about this mental illness in the air in this general reads as ironic but good cope

>>28992832
What, the current drama situation? I wasn't online, unfortunately. Only caught it from the transcripts and low volume audio recordings posted.

>a first person shooter
>a casual battle royale
>a story based cat game
>a movie watchalong
and all of them were fun, she’s just good at everything…

>>28992407
Anyone with half a brain can recognize it's just thread tourists trying to stir the pot amongst themselves.

>>28992792
Who the fuck appointed you to be the spokesperson of an entire fanbase? Are you a fucking mindreader that knows how every single one of her view thinks?

>>28992888
Go viewbot some vtubers about it you shitsucking /#/fag.

>>28992892
Then you know what to send her next stream, right?

>>28992888
There's nothing ironic about this general, that's not my point. My point is that if you're arguing against this kind of reaction in her chat, then you obviously don't watch her, and you wouldn't enjoy her content even if you did. Unless you just find yelling to be the best kind of entertainment there is, then I guess you can tolerate the talks and actual jokes between unit 01 impersonations.

>>28992643
Hopefully she'll beat the final boss of APEX soon and not play it again.

>>28993008
Never claimed to be. I'm speaking for myself, feel free to disagree.

>>28992617
All you're doing is disrupting the thread. If you aren't capable of having a discussion with the basis of "if she ever betrays us, it is unacceptable to simply accept it or move on and it is not okay for either her fans or her to simply accept it if its happens", you're never going to get anything meaningful or substantive as a response.
I would be glad to discuss that if you could even attempt to bear that in mind without picking at it, but I don't think you're capable of that and if I'm being honest I don't think you'd care to

There is no feasible way for Nazu to collab with VShojos other than Kson without interacting with males at some point (I meam, Zen is probably male ffs). Youre just gonna have to live with it because everyone else isnfine woth it, she'd have to isolate herself in her own little corner to avoid it.

>>28993122
based

>>28993171
you could have just said "yes it's the mental illness"

>>28993200
>s no feasible way for Nazu to collab with VShojos other than Kson without interacting with males at some point
Then she should ditch Vshojo

>>28993200
>she'd have to isolate herself in her own little corner to avoid it.
Which is what everyone said she'd do upon joining. I recall all the "don't worry, she'll practically be in her own corner and not even have anything to do with them, she's only in it for the corporate aid in blocking antis, setting up sponsorships and tech stuff"

>>28993200
>Zen is probably male ffs
Now I know you're a /#/ fag and not someone from /vsj/, I lurked that God slforsaken board yesterday and it was in fact proven that Zen was female.

Why is she so erotic and so grown up? I may need correction.

If you want a clear answer to the male collab thing then the only thing you can do is ask her straight up what you want, don't try and sugarcoat it or be subtle because she won't get it, also know enough Japanese to not mess up the damn question.
If you can't do that then at least don't bite so much bait.

>>28993359
Me too and it was not proven, all that was proven was that Zen dated one of the NijiEN males. Males are capable of dating each other. Everything else was a rehash of old info that didn't decisively prove anything either way.
That said I really don't care about Zen.

>>28993416
There literally was a clear answer if you read the full transcript rather than the one posted in the previous thread that omitted the clear answer.

>>28993330
I mean so far it seems accurate

>>28993008
>Who the fuck appointed you to be the spokesperson of an entire fanbase?
I have a excel spreadsheet of IIRC 850 names on my computer that correlates links to main accounts, known sub accounts(so really it's much more than 850 because so many of your fuckers have sub accounts), and samples of tweets I deemed relevant to establishing their feelings for her and I have a separate column for tagging a user. Won't go into detail about all the tags I used because it's some schizo shit but one of them is a big old G that correlates to a statement that is unequivocally something only a gachikoi would say(like "I'm gachikoi for you", obviously)
At least a solid 80% of that list was tagged as gachikoi
(I first made this in February because I was extremely nervous about other Fandead buying the rumors, I set up a basic script where each name is attached to an alarm with a week long timer and when I finished checking an account I would restart the timer)
I disabled the timer a few months ago but I've kept up sparingly and for the most part the list has more or less stayed the same in terms of gachikoi concentration
Mind you this may only be just under a thousand of her viewers but generally speaking they're also the most active and reliable viewers too so they have an outsized importance when you have that many of them.

>>28993600
It wasn't an answer otherwise she wouldn't have followed it up by considering male collabs and agreeing to it

>>28993732
>agreeing to it
?????

I wanna play Smash with her, but Nintendo's online sucks enough ass without putting the distance between me and her into account...
I don't wanna make her suffer through that lag

>>28993692
mind sharing with the class lol

>>28993330
If shes fine with that then ok. But I somehow doubt shell be content all by herself, given she's directly said she wants to interact with her colleagues. Anyone who thought VSJP would be self contained given Kson is American and Nazu is the only other JP was lying to themselves.

>>28993732
I guess you're right, if we ignore what she actually said and pull shit out of our ass instead, what she said was pretty terrible.

>>28993600
By a clear answer I meant an answer that even the biggest EOP couldn't misunderstand
also it would preferably be on a stream that can get clipped, just in case shitposters get uppity

Just took a look at that zen guy's streams.
Jesus christ how does anyone actively watch this person?
Text to fucking speech?
How the fuck does that work in collabs? How the fuck will that work with Nazuna? I don't even think she's aware this person uses TTS

>join MC server
>chill and fun stream
>male joins
>wife suddently start breathing heavely
>5 minutes pass
>wife is getting banned for sucking 5 dicks at the same time with webcam on on twitch
did i get the timeline right?

>>28993811
Not after what 5ch schizos did to Roa and Host I don't
They lurk here too, I'm usually fine sharing shit here but doxxing grade scholers because their tweets made you cringe crosses a line for me and I'm not giving them pre-compiled ammo.

>>28994113
No, you even missed the right thread. Back to your shojo shithole.

>>28994113
i only have one dick make sure you correct that part

>>28994123
Somehow based, despite being a complete schizo yourself.

>>28994834
I have standards and I would stop supporting my wife if she so carelessly supported yet another increase in the military's spending budget

>>28994834
>Abortion ga daisuki
Every time

>>28994942
Gotta keep the Chinamen down ya know. Also Ukraine needs stuff.

Nazunachan come to brazil...

For you guys worried about archives look up a program called "twitch-recorder"

>>28994123
I'm not sure if you're shitposting or not, but seeing my account in a list like that would definitely make me go a bit menhera.

>>28995027
>Gotta keep the Chinamen down ya know
I mean...

>>28995706
He's posted about it before in the catalog, so I assume it's not a LARP

>>28995706
That's why you're not supposed to see it

>>28995706
Idk to me it sounds kind of like a list of honor.

>>28995264
Just a tourist, but /vsj/ has a high-effort guide if one of you wants to archive
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OzwZq9xKI7otmI8kW0B8sV66ikswciZzigHIRGV9bJo/edit

I'm always grateful to be reminded I'm don't have the worst brain problems on this board. fabricating what she said out of thin air is certainly one way to do it

>>28995706
If I'm on the list it means I have the official seal of approval from one of the schizos, and that's great.

I keep forgetting to post my food on the damn tag

>>28996009
More importantly it's an automated archiving guide. It'll grab literally anything that happens on the channel unless there's a sub 15 second stream that takes place entirely between 2 pings.

>>28995815
I've gotten better about this stuff since then at least last time I updated anything was almost a month ago and I've stopped archive searching all variations of her name every morning to see every mention of her on /vt/
The spreadsheet was honestly a good way to keep myself mentally stable, reading gachikoi still being gachikoi sets my mind at ease and helps me better ground myself and recognize when I'm freaking out over hypotheticals as if they were unavoidable eventualities.

>>28994834
>abortion ga daisuki
the worst part is that somehow I can hear this in her voice every time I read it

>>28996213
I'm 100% certain my old account is there but I've created a new one for her, you'll probably see that one soon as well if you're still doing it.

>>28990735
I think you're confusing your legal terms, you can't copyright a brand or product name like "VSho(u?)nen", but you can trademark it

I would once again like to apologize for being an unhinged schizophrenic but would also like to tell the anon who archived it to please not wait next time I wouldn't have had to take meds if I was able to hear the actual audio. I only have so much meds to take

When you all have your mass cult suicide, will it be taped? I'm worried I might be busy having a life and miss it.

>>28995965
I don't really like the attention (unless it's from her) and then there was the harassment from antis.

>28996802
>Using 4chan
>Having a life
Pick one and only one.

>>28996802
>I'm worried I might be busy having a life
That's somehow the least realistic part of your sentence.

>>28997121
>sentence
Post rather.

>男性と絡むってことない
>男性マジで知りあいがいない
You people are fucking retarded. This is a stronger denial than the one she gave on Mike.

You shit up two threads for this?

I don't even care if you're a schizo fan or a retarded anti-unicorn anti or whatever, I just don't understand why you can't do your reps first, at least 炎上 with actual facts instead of military grade schizophrenic fanfiction.

>>28997321
>"ching chong bing bong nazu suck male ding dong"
mmm nahone

>>28997503
you'll be able to communicate in english one day

I love my cute (nude) wife and I will now rest up in order to watch her being cute tomorrow on the stream (she is always cute) Love wife love wife love wife.

At least things were cleared up. Now I feel bad about encouraging anons to ask her this retarded shit knowing full well no one here knows Japanese. From now on I'm just gonna learn Japanese myself instead of relying on sunmaries and you fuckers

putting aside all the schizophrenia
she was incredibly cute today, the pokemon noises, the darling, changing the "I like you" to "I love you", the time going down instead of up
it was an amazing stream and I'm sad that it's pretty much lost now

>>28998984
>>28991325
?

>>28999572
Oh didn't see that
maybe I'll make some clips for myself

>>28997321
The problem was not EOPs, it's that no one had a transcript, archive, vod, clip, even a half-decent recollection, of what she actually said. And when one WAS released the portion you quoted was omitted from the transcript, probably to deliberately sow chaos. It was translated by several JSLs immediately so language barrier was not the problem, but that people were going on incomplete information. Literally the most sensible anon was having a mental breakdown screaming at everyone to stfu and wait for an archive so someone can actually confirm what she said.
Look, I know you /jp/ oldfags have PTSD from your board being destroyed by tourists, but not every problem is a result of the EOPs. This entire website is a weaponized misinformation vector and it was on full display here.

So help me understand what being a gachikoi is. So if I understand correctly you all love Naznuna and to you she loves you and that bond is unique to you. You all consider Nazuna your wife, yes? Seems simple enough I think.

My primary question is then why is there such a backlash with just the mere presence of a male? I can understand if you don't want her to have a 1 on 1 collab with a male, but why are you so opposed if she runs into some other girl and her boyfriend? That male is not a threat to your relationship so why such hostility if it happens once in a while? If your wife asked you out to dinner with her friend and her friend's husband would you refuse to go just because of the other guy? This part is what I don't understand so please explain to help me understand.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1540373216

Today’s VOD is back up on her actual channel

"Final" results of this poal from about a week ago. Poll is a little stacked, providing only one negative option but two positive options, but it confirms the results of previous poals, public fan response and common sense: the vshojo antis remain a small minority.
Keep in mind, this was never crossposted to /jp/ by the creator, and I didn't repost it because it's not mine and I don't like the options. All of my poals will be posted first in the /jp/ thread and then crossposted to /vt/ after a significant number of responses to guage the relative different in sentiment between the two.

so which one of you have paid enough to get a private direct dm from her post debut? Its not against contract anymore, so there's no reason she doesn't still do it. Which of you are the chosen, and which are ignored?

>>29001970
Whoops, forgot image. Also link to poal.
http://poal.me/244m2i

>>29002161

>>28999880
>Literally the most sensible anon was having a mental breakdown screaming at everyone to stfu and wait for an archive so someone can actually confirm what she said.
That was me btw
I was also screaming at people to stop pre-emptively coping
Please stop ruminating when you don't have a truly valid source
Rumination is how you give yourself a complex
Take this as a rule of thumb; if shit lights itself on fire here or anywhere, give yourself 24 hours minimum before you even begin to come to a conclusion about it. If the truth is actually bad it'll still be bad in 24 hours. If not though you'll stress yourself out for nonreason. There is zero advantage to freakinng out immediately. よく考えてください
I'm not asking you to be sane, just well-informed

>>28991870
hasan is a based chad

>>29002764
Whenever something seems weird, I always ask myself “who do I trust more, my wife, or anonymous user on four chan dot com who clearly only half knows english and probably zero japanese.” It saves a lot of headache. That and just not looking at the thread when it’s clear something like that is happening during an otherwise dead hour.

>>29001970
Streams are dates, long distance dates. Imagine if you were on a date with your long distance partner, you're on discord or whatever, let's say you tried to have a coffee date 'together' or some shit by both going to a cafe and just spending time together.

Now imagine some random dude you don't know that works in the same building as her sees her on her side of the call, and upon approaching her for the rest of the date she turns her to you and spends the next hour talking to this guy, maybe occasionally glancing over at you to remind you that she at least remembers you exist before refocusing on this guy you don't know

Now imagine her saying she wants to gonon a date, and when you ask, she specifies that she wanta tongo on a date with another guy, and then says that she wants youbto quietly watch her go on a datebwith this guy. Also, she told everybody that knows about your relationship that she's going on a date with another guy and that wants youbto watch, and that she wants many people to watch her go on a date with a man other than you

Female collabs are "fine" because, even if it would still be rude to do that with another girl in these scenarios, it isn't loaded with the same sense of emasculation

>>29002081
What is with her technical mishaps happening at the worst possible time
It's actually uncanny

>>29003746
It might be a test from higher powers to weed out the ones who truly love her and would stick it out until they know concretely what she herself has stated instead of immediately believing everything they see online about her.

I love my wife

More like v処女, am I right?

>>29003636
But don't double dates exist? Your scenario suggests it is out of the blue but what if your wife says you are going on a double date, for example, with Nyan and Aethel before hand and it is not out of the blue?

Now I understand you would rather have more one on one dates and wouldn't want it to happen often. So I could get being upset if she were to do too many of them but once in a while when collabing with the other girls? I just don't understand why that is just so unacceptable.

>>29004627
Before you go too far, just know there are some who are basically playing a parody of what they think a gachi is like to taint peoples opinion on the fanbase (not calling anyone out here, it happens on Twitter too)

>>29004931
>playing a parody
I'm not, but I'd love to hear your justification for that. And what you think the term gachikoi actually means.

>>28997321
>男性マジで知りあいがいない
Is also a blatant lie. She has multiple male acquaintances. Who is she trying to fool by this, people who haven't paid attention to her twitter and twitcast account the past months?

Thank god is back.
Here,look at my wife re-confirming our wedding vows:
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1540373216?t=1h52m30s

(No clip because unfortunately that shows who made the clip)

>>29005525
>You my darling

>>29005381
Nazuna is not Mike. I know, it's hard to believe, but the character is allowed to have a couple of differences from the streamer herself. Rushia avoided males, Nazuna avoided males. Mike being a menhera having some male friends like (You) doesn't change how she would act with a vtuber persona as opposed to herself.

>>29005381
She has me and all of my alts as male aquaintances if that what (you) mean.

Honeymoon period is over
The Vhojos come out

>>29002161
She's been answering my dms for free since before this drama anon

>>29002161
I've gotten direct with her in private if you know what I mean.

>>29004627
>double dates
I struggle to see a scenario where it feels as if the viewer is an equal participant compared to any collab partners. In a sense, it's like a double date sure, but you're still LDR with her while she is in the booth or w/e with her friend and her boyfriend while you're on the screen next to her
Also, I've been on double dates before and a big part of it is the casual banter you can have with the other guy as part of the convo, but in the case of a collab it's usually only her that can pay attention so it almost always ends up with it feeling like you're being ignored entirely since she wants to focus on the collab and therefore collab partner(s), or with the other guy holding both the attention of his partner(neiher of which do or can acknowledge your existence) while also dominating the attention of your wife at the same time. Which is not how a double date is supposed to feel, obviously
Not all collabs realistically provoke this sentiment IMO. But most do. An interaction has to have an hefty air of professionalism to it to remove those undertones. She was on thebcall withbthe Pokemon Tournament dude twice for example, and also with the guy that ran that among us tournament. Both were basically the equivalent of sports announcers with her stepping into a call with one so it had more of a sense of her calling into a show on TV as a total stranger or as her being interviewed by said sports announcer(usually short, between matches so it had this fast paced air to it which helps), and of course there were other women there too which she focused most of her conversation on.

But it is a difficult issue to work around and simply declining them wholesale from the outset causes the least amount of heartache. Trying to figure out ways to work around constantly can also get weird because if that becomes a trend it can start to feel like your boundaries are being intentionally pushed and that's not pleasant either.

>>29006280
Anon, there's already one massive landmine you're forgetting:
What if one of the males makes a female avatar specifically for interacting with her? Would you accept that? Would Nazuna accept that?

>>29005381
>keeping up with her twitcasts
Clearly you have not been.
>>29005715
>character
And you shut the fuck up too anon, let regulars here handle rrats instead of justifying them

It would be nice if this thread is clean by the time her scheduled video starts, so get it out of your system before then

>>29003636
>Also, she told everybody that knows about your relationship that she's going on a date with another guy and that wants youbto watch, and that she wants many people to watch her go on a date with a man other than you
>Female collabs are "fine" because, even if it would still be rude to do that with another girl in these scenarios, it isn't loaded with the same sense of emasculation
this is the part that makes anyone call someone insane

>>29006635
No? I'm not sure why it would. Similarly, I have no issue with her collabing with women whose avatar is male. Nobody did, that's why the strange ironic ship that was TamakixRushia existed, and why she felt fine using Rushias yt account to publicly comment on Suzuki Masarus stream one time

it's cute how she is trying so hard to impress her overseas fans, I guess she appreciates all the support as before she never used english much if at all.

>>29007155
>this part
>a whole ass paragraph
thanks anon you really clarified your point

new thread soon

>>29006280
Well I don't think I quite agree with your approach on the issue but I appreciate your perspective on the matter and attempting to help me understand.
Thank you for being civil.

>>29006816
4 letters: ksnk

>>29007195
I'm glad you're so tolerant of an obvious loophole being exploited.

>>29005525
something kind of funny about seeing a pogchamp in chat during this

Where’s the schizoposting about how all her streams are close to the same duration?

>>29008707
is that really a reason to schizopost about?

>>29008707
she's been streaming those at very specific times, and ending them at the same time mostly. It could just mean she finally has a decent sleep schedule, etc

>>29008760
It’s as valid as everything else “discussed” today

>>29008862
>decent sleep schedule
Lmao, as if. She’s been active at 5am every day for the last week

>>29008707
>they average at 3hours 25 minutes
> 325 = みにこ = 見に行こう
> all of her titles have
> if you read the letters diagonally in reverse order shifted by 325 letters looping on itself you get my name
Me and my wife are gonna go star gazing boiz, smell ya later

>>29009106
all of her titles have the star symbol*

>>29007072
Replace that with coner’s dick

It's morning in Jakarta.

do you?

fuck that was loud

>>29008266
whats

Pay some attention and you may learn some japanese from this. Seriously

I wish the red eyes were the default. Rushia's eyes were the most beautiful part.

>>29008147
>doesn't talk to him for 10 years
>acquaintance
nahone

>>29010460
b-but I already know Japanese...

The video is starting!

Not sure what I expected, but this is just highlights

>>29011652
internet explorerchama...

>>29011756
fuck I was tabed out

I like this was appealing to the JP audience.
It's something i've been thinking for long since i started watching vtubers like 2 years ago when the EOP pandering and clip era started.
The balance between the 2 audiences is a fragile thing and the chuubas who do just one usually are more sucessful barring other factors.
JP audience may be less reluctant since they're at least a tiny bit of English (which is the level too of most chuubas) but the EOP audience, specially the newbies they get scared and panic over someone speaking anything other than English. Truly Japanese-English audience is scarce.
So how much you speak of each language and appeal to them to not turn off potential audience is complicated.

>>29012667
*at least know a tiny bit. lol

Video was cute, i like having a condensed wife streams for some quick cute wife refill

>>29012667
audio-only(90% of the stream they're doing something else and the stream is background stimulation on a second monitor) viewers are a very significant chunk of live streamer viewers, vtubers included
IMO wife has a strong advantage because of her style of presentation. She has an almost objectively beautiful voice and she's good at leaning into slapstick memes (le eva-01 rage). Emotions and interjections can transcend a language barrier, and memes like doko mitendayo or yabe or all the shit people can come to hate as spam offer her ways to expand that toolkit
I think the biggest issue with those viewers is even if they can grasp the feeling of the moment, feeling conveys a response but it doesn't necessarily convey what triggered it so people who aren't attentive may feel left out in a way.

Then again, she gets around that issue well enough IMO because she builds up a high floor, which disproportionately builds up viewers that tend to focus.

I liked the video
crazy that it has been a week since debut already
It's been really fun since then, I'm so happy

>>29010808
>replied to him 2 days ago
>wanted to play games with him
>anons claim he's not a male acquaintance

Miguel's eggs...

>>29017644
I hope every week can be like this...

No male collabs allowed