/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>28948931
Anon they where in the 50-40s, they got over 20k.

>>28948931
low effort bait

>>28948931
Only 2 debuted so far. They'll surpass UPROAR by tomorrow with just their debut streams.
In Holostars terms, EN is a huge success.

>>28949024
>Anon they where in the 50-40s, they got over 20k.
Regis had the most subscribers out of them before debut. Still not really much compared to literally any other Niji/Holo debut.

Their models are so bad. It's literally the worst thing I've ever seen.
Look here's an indie model:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1Yid82jIYA&t=193

How can an indie model be so vastly superior to one of the largest corporations?

>muh numbers
fuck off back to your contamination thread faggot

>>28948931
Nijimagged

>>28949216
They already overtook UPROAR

>>28949234
don't care didn't ask + you're magged

>>28949190
>They'll surpass UPROAR by tomorrow with just their debut streams.
Not really that hard though. No one knows that UPROAR even exists. They were dead from the beginning

>>28949234
Or this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9e1wXFTTKSQ

>>28948931
get magged retarf

>>28949234
It's pretty clear that cover doesn't give a fuck about any males. They just get whatever is available for them right now

>>28948931
It's obvious yagoo wants the fujo audience with his male stars, even if means less overall numbers.

>>28949328
That's so sad. Surpassing Stars JP is next and that won't be hard for EN at all. YAGOO must be VERY happy that EN is doing so well.

>>28949452
But anon, the hololive females ALSO have worse rigging than that. In fact it's pretty well known that indies generally have better rigging than the major corporations.

>>28949649
and why do you care? you want more males? or you want hololive to gain more profits? Why are you cheering for hololive males? Nobody wants them. It's only if you're a corporate shill

>>28948931

>>28949216
Of course, they are holostars. Most are 2-3 view. Still growing faster than any previous gen and boosting jp members in turn. It's a forgone conclusion hololive girls and luna will do far more.

>>28948931
i'm a nijifag and i thought at least the hand guy had a good debut. he was clearly nervous, but has some good stuff going for him
give them a chance holobros, you don't need to doompost yet. they're doing fine.

>>28949786
nijisanji males are not having this problem

>>28949736
>Nobody wants them
Yagoo always liked and wanted the Homos

How is our boy Mag losing to the pedovoice twink?

>>28948931
Good. I hope they really are a flop, but it's still to early to judge.

>>28948931
Niji only have like 80-90k, give them a day or two and they'll easily surpass Niji, they're a huge success.

>>28949851
Magged

>>28949835
So I should support the holostars because I love slurping yagoo's butthole so much? Fuck holostars, fuck males.
The fans wait a year for generation 3, and instead get shitty low quality males that are only ripoffs of the other company. Nobody wants this

>>28949736
Be silent, dying fat unicorn. More males are coming or did you forget that auditions are open? Go give your paycheck to Koyori.

>>28949834
Because they don't follow this shitty idol culture and are actually invested in all of their members. TEMPUS flops because they are isolated from all the other HoloEN members. Just imagine they weren't idols they'd get a shit ton of support from the girls

>>28949840
because there is no organic support for any of these homos, it's just cover shilling

>>28949736
Nijimagged

>>28949923
They're all part of HoloPro whether you like it or not. Gen 3 won't be coming for quite a while. Due to Council's performance, I think they're rethinking on how they'll hire the next batch of girls.

>>28950005
They are already getting more support than all the starsJP got, you just can't force people to actually want to watch males when they had a girls only paradise for years

>>28950005
Luxiem's success was all their own. If Tempus can't do that then maybe they just aren't that good.

>>28950005
Nijimagged

>>28948931
I didn't care in the first place and neither should you. We can move on by not making threads about them outside homostar generals.

>>28950005
TEMPUS will be fine. Stop thinking that they NEED the Holo girls to survive because they don't and there's plenty of Vtubers out there as potential collab partners. The real meat is outside Cover.

>>28948931
>Comparing your wave to Holostars
Sounds like they won.

>>28950340
Stop replying to the falseflagging Nijigger

>>28950233
Luxiem's "success" is basically them covered in Yuan. They can keep China and their craziness to themselves.

>>28950219
They're completely incompetent. How do they spend their hundreds of millions?
>failed anime project
>failed music project
>gacha game cashgrab
They produce the abomination of Irys' model. Gura's terrible rigging. Permissions blocked forcing everyone to play minecraft all the time. And now these low-quality males with embarrassingly bad models.

Hololive's business decisions are terrible. They're mismanaging everything and hiring hordes of shitty nepotism people for grossly inflated salaries. That's where your donations are going.

>>28950004
Lol why attack Koyo? Us JP unicorns have nothing to do with this show.
You're talking to a seething nijisister getting jealous for milord.

>>28950433
Stop replying to the Nijigger

>>28950433
Huh? Where do you see any "attack", fool? It was just an example of a Holo member who's currently streaming.

>>28949798
NO

I don't see Holofags seething at Tempus, only Nijifags and falseflagging Nijiggers. Why is that?

>>28950542
So your strategy is to get everyone supporting Holostars by saying "other company bad"?
Nobody wants Holostars. No more males. Period.

>>28948931
>and move on?
Why would I do that when I want to watch them?

>>28950572
Sure thing Nijisister

>>28950542
You're talking straight out of your ass, hlgg has been a shitshow ever since they debuted.

>>28949234
>proper eye tracking and emotion change without pressing a button
Yeah, Cover does have pretty bad models huh?

>>28950572
Not him but people love to falseflag as unicorns to make Holobros look bad and you're doing just that. We're fine with Holostars, they're separate from Hololive anyways.

>>28950542
I've come to realize that the way females seethe is really easy to detect.

>>28950572
Go slurp Vox's unwashed cock, Nijishiller

>>28950066
>don't even spend enough to give them decent looking models
>but they're also everywhere and shilling on my board!!!
explain

>>28950655
>coping nijisisters raiding the thread falselfagging as stereotypical concoctions of unicorns
Every time

>>28950688
>we
Fuck you no I'm not.

>>28950688
The cuckposting is annoying as shit and making me hate the ugly one.

>>28950066
Fulgur please, let the Holobros have fun. They're eventually gonna forget them in a month.

>>28950688
>they're separate from Hololive anyways
Let's make sure to keep it that way.

>>28950688
>We
You are one that falseflagging here. There's never we, and will never be.

>>28949649
Yagoo's been shilling StarsEN on Twitter, so yeah.

>>28950726
It was always a place for unicorns, homoposters are the Nijiniggers since they want to destroy holo's idol image.

>>28950915
How come they're the ones seething about their mere presence on /#/ then

>>28949923
SUCCESS BREEDS JEALOUSY

>>28949894
cope harder

>>28949234
she just has the same face the whole time and bounces up and down?

looks like ass

>>28949216
>Still not really much compared to literally any other Niji/Holo debut.
They're about to be double of what luxiem and noctyx debuted with subswise

>>28949190
>>28949306
>>28949216
Uproar also got a bump from Tempus debuts.

>>28950949
>/#/
Oh yeah bring the falseflag central into the discussion. Have you see. anyone on /nijiEN/ seethe about the homos? On the other hand a lot of nijiniggers joined /mag/ early on. You can see it all of it on full display if you do your reps. That's why I believe they're the ones molesting the unicorns. Would be in their MO also.

>>28888888

>>28951099
she has great rigging. It tracks all her micro eye movements and shit. She even has tongue tracking. It's dramatically higher quality than what hololive has.

>>28950233
>Luxiem's success was all their own
Retard, they were all riding that Nijisanji Male popularity wave. Just look at the fucking NijiEN girls. They're still shitters that nobody cares about.

>>28951667
I dunno about this. Vox literally caused an explosion on the female side of twitter. He brought in 100's of thousands of new people to nijisanji.

>>28951742
>Vox literally caused an explosion on the female side of twitter
Yes, and? If Vox debut'd in HoloStars, he wouldn't be getting all that support, you know?

>>28951504
So the Magshills are Starsfags plus Nijifags who are trying to fuck with unicorns by making males popular huh. That makes sense, if they're popular, there'll be more males and the co-ed collab will be normalize eventually.

>>28948931

I have no interest in them. I won't hate on them either. I just won't watch. But why do male vtubers always have such cringe names? They all sound like they came from some 13 year old goth/alt kids deviantart. I know the girls names can be kinda dumb too if you think about it, like dog God. But that's sort of cute/forgivable. But Noir Vesper? It's like a faggy gamertag. And the others aren't any better either. I'm surprised there isn't an "Altair Sephiroth" yet in holo or niji.

>>28948931
hololive hasn't had a successful debut since gen 4, arguably gen 3.

>>28949840
Give it time, the character and content will overcome.

>>28952963
are you drunk? or are you that stupid?
Kobo, sakamata, irys, laplus... wtf?

>>28953051
all garbage relative to usada pekora or marine/rushia. arguably the only "star" of hololive.

>>28950668
Anon they can't even get the accessories right, their models suck

>>28948931
>Being this proud at beating holostars
Do nijifriend really?

>>28951786
>If Vox debut'd in HoloStars, he wouldn't be getting all that support, you know?
If he debuted in StarsEN before NijiEN put men out yes he would. Niji put men out first; they won its that simple.

>>28951625
And still a 3view at best. Come back when she has surpassed Hololive numbers.

Debuts are often trash that isn't indicative of what their streams will be like weeks later.

>>28953561
She gets thousands of people watching her. She wouldn't have gotten a boost if it wasn't for Vei having a beef with her.

>>28953617
This. Debuts basically don't matter.
What matters is how entertaining they are in their endless Minecraft/Apex/FOTM game streams which is 75% of their content.

>>28950233
Luxiem's success was because
>No competition
>Carried by the avatars
>Chink army behind them
Meanwhile the Holohomos have the Holostar debuff and with a strong competition already
And i was expecting less than 15k today but they BTFO me so i call it a win

>>28953270
I know, I was agreeing with you.

>>28953454
>Niji put men out first; they won its that simple
Is it? Are you saying that if Lazulight debut before Myth, Niji would actually win?

>>28953051
Sometimes I forgot they exists if not because this board keep shitposting with them
Even then, no one beats ogeys

I thought HomostarsEN would be dead in the water but the full cope cycle the board has gone through in regards to them has been hardly that, and pretty entertaining.

So, how much money do you think Cover forked up for the shilling campaign?

>>28954437
Judging by their models, $0

>>28954437
Judging by magmi spam here, $1M

>>28948931
lmao nijinigger feels threatened?

After the desuwa girl I’m convinced niji just bots all their new channels and I can’t be swayed to believe otherwise

>>28954437
they were going to pay me $250k but after the ILuna announcement I told them I'd do it for free

>>28955016
I wouldn't call it bots but they have a very large install base that shows up for debuts and subs but then fucks back off to whatever one of a 100+ people they watch.

>>28949663
Indies have amazing tracking nowadays, the Hololive girls look so stiff even when they use home 3D, those recent upgrades Fubuki and the others got is kind of a joke at this point

>>28954970
Godfuckingdamnit I didn’t want to like these guys but this image swayed me

>>28948931
i will grudgepost you so hard whenever their debut ban is done and all 4 of them getting above 5k each streams. and only the males from iluna got decent numbers.

>>28954970
Perfect lmao

>>28951309
A rising tide raises all ships!

>>28954437
>Cover forked out money for Holostars when Astel break down and cry on stream because cover didn't gave him enough budget for his 3d debut

>>28949840
The opinions of people on /vt/ are more or less worthless for determining metrics. There's maybe something like a thousand posters here at best who aren't already posting on the other platforms (twitter, discord, reddit, etc). Just because he offers something you don't like doesn't mean he lacks broad appeal. JP likes his ikemen voice and singing, Twitter + Reddit likes his sweet softboy appeal, and so on. He's probably going to do pretty well on the whole and even if he never surpasses the top Niji EN earners, he'll still probably be a top end male EN vtuber. The mega success outliers in this scene have given people a warped view of what it means to do well and the shitposters here have completely brainfucked the already kind of stupid people who post on this board. If 3 months after his debut he manages a consistent 2k CCV on his streams he'll STILL be in the top percentage of streamers period, let alone vtubers.

>>28948931
Good. The faster they fail the faster we can move on.

>>28956777
Huh, did you copypaste my post from that other thread because you agreed with it or are you trying to make it a copypasta? I can honestly never tell.

>>28956984
Former.

>>28951786
Vox was already a success way before his debut. Women liked his design a lot. He would have done good anywhere.

>Look guys we can beat the irrelevant branch of Holopro, you are totally owned
Nijikeks are fucking pathetic holy shit, but hey good job doing the bare fucking minimum of beating Holostars

Holostars EN did better than anyone could have expected, not just in terms of subscribers but viewcounts. The fact that they have the Holostars debuff but yet are basically close enough to NijiEN’s sub count already (hell Regis himself is on par not just with Aia but beat out Kyo) should make Anykara concerned or at least should make them rethink their whole shotgun talents model.
For fucksake they have so many EN livers already but yet only 3 have new costumes. The merch is barebones, they need to change their shit.

>>28953864
Yeah, especially since they actually stream not like the lazy shart

>>28949328
Not that Holostars itself is a big draw, but trying to split them off into their own branded thing was a stupid decision. It’s a shame because the red one is a contender for best artist in Holopro.

>>28948931
No because now comes the forced management collabs in a month and this month you can bet the girls picked to do the collabs will out themselves this month ame bae and mori already did more will follow just a question of who but lets be real we all knew mori would.

>>28953103
you nigger say "successful", and ID3 successful as fuck

>>28957069
He wouldn't have the same designer in Holostars.

they are too strong...

>>28957355
The fact that they are attached to a far bigger brand than the niji en boys with a much wider teaching audience and can't even match up to them is insane. If you'd posted this shit before Luxiem then sure but there should have been higher expectations and more backing for the talent after the less popular company proved that there's an entire untapped market.

>>28955349
BASED

>>28961255
Council was 150k-200k before they debuted right? I wonder if the mixed gen will help this batch of Nijigirls. Obsydia and Ethyria had pathetic subscriber numbers. Might just be nijibots so it doesn't translate into CCV.

The mere fact that threads get made of them and not them just being forgotten like Uproar is grounds for concern.
I didn't mind HolostarsEN because I thought they were going to perform just like their JP counterparts and quickly be relegated to some shadowy corner where I would never see them, but here I am, they got over 10k for their debuts and I am seeing shitposts dunking on them, what the fuck is happening?
Please for the love of god, just don't bring them up so they fade out of existance please.

>>28961265
Stars are basically Heinz mustard. Holo brand is know from completely different product that are girls.

>>28962541
They still have the branding and association. They still got shilled by a bunch of the girls and the official channel.

>>28962704
And all of that pushed them to 40k. It could much worse result otherwise. How your brand is perceived matters.

>>28962917
The western audience has barely any concept or reference for Holostars. The concept of Stars being a separate brand is lost on the majority of casual fans.

>>28950542
They're afraid

>>28962188
council was culled heavily before debut, without cull they would have been 300k~ at debut

>>28962188
Ethyria was less than 10k before they debuted, Luxiem was 10k-20k, Noctyx was 10-30k.
They are growing steadily...

>>28963075
>The western audience has barely any concept or reference for Holostars.
Yes
>The concept of Stars being a separate brand is lost on the majority of casual fans.
Not really. Many didn't even know about existence of jp stars. For them stars never existed before, because they never heard about them. All they saw was full female entertainment company.

>>28954970
IM DOING MY PART

>>28961255
What the hell did the shota and glasses girl do to be the furthest behind?

>>28961255
remember noctyx subs got susan'd three times before their debut.
when is nijisanji going to learn organic growth > army of bots

>>28964007
>got susan'd
>bots
So council bought bots too, right?

>>28963710
Thanks, grac

>>28961255
>The least tribalfag who explicitly supported all Tempus members on Twitter is the top sub-wise
Na-ho-ne
Nijisisters have a lot to learn from their livers

So the girls get 200k free subscribers and the boys get dick? Typical of cover. What was the point of a male branch again? Is the jp branch even as a popular as the jp girls?

>>28964110
Well duh?

>>28964329
Niji has a large female fanbase and their boys are more popular than the girls.
Holo has a large male fanbase and their girls are more poplar than the boys.
It’s not rocket science. Cover might or might not convince some nijifans to switch to holo, but the starsEN are already overtaking their JP sempai. And the JP themselves are growing faster following this new gen.
If you put cover in a bubble without comparing them to other companies, this is a success in every single aspect.

>>28964517
Niji had no significant female fanbase or popular boys to speak of before Luxiem. Every wave before them was aimed at a male audience.

>>28964596
They were first-to-maket, just like how holomyth was first to market for the EN girls.
It’s not that surprising, really.

What was their CCV?

>>28965162
40k for both of them.

>>28948931
nobody cares either way

niji males work cause nijisanji loves males (see kuzuha)

cover males dont work cause they are treated like the plague. name one time holostars did stuff with pekora.

>>28965247
>cover males dont work
[citation needed]

>>28965392
there is a reason they keep pekora or any popular holo away from the holostars

>>28965430
Today I learned that Fubuki isn’t popular. Thank you anon for this precious information.

>>28965551
she's expendable, someone has to take it for the team. they keep the top earners away from the holostars as they are a debuff.

>>28965392
Holostars have historically had low stats and popularity. There is no big break out star like Kanae and Kuzuha.

>>28965705
The fuck you’re talking about? Fubuki is one of the pillar of hololive?
How the fuck is she expendable? Just admit you know nothing about hololive

>>28965551
She's not. She's middle tier holo right now. It's not 2020 anymore.

>>28965430
Sure. They kept Suisei and Mori too. Even if you can excuse Suisei since she's ex-indie, what's your excuse for Mori? Also explain Fubuki, Matsuri, and Polka

>>28965247
Holostars get treated like dirt by the company, tragic really because many of them are very talented.

Hopefully EN can break through the glass ceiling and make a place for male stars in cover corp, preferably without fucking my Oshi.

>>28955565
You don't even watch indies.

>>28966361
LMAO, have you seen how much YAGOO shilling them? He even retweeted each of them personally, and go into pre-chat. You can argue that Holostars have more love than Hololive. Even the punctuation marks for omedetou are more than Hololive girls

>>28949024
That doesn't make it better. This is like watching turtles die before they make it to the ocean.
But it's actually funny

>>28950005
Why should they get support from the girls? Each stream the girls collab with the guys is going to do worse, and there’s a market of audience members who aren’t unicorns but who will skip any collabs with males and who’ll switch oshis if it gets bad enough.
Why is it such a big deal that Holostars is a success in the first place? As long as it survives, it’s fine. No need to drag the girls down to try to elevate the guys.

>>28966712
LMAO they just had 40k people watching their debut now tell me how many Vtubers can achieve that if we remove Nijisanji out of the picture

>>28950005
Fuck you, starsEN will be a success even without leeching off of Hololive. Why do you fuckers care so much about Collab anyway?

>>28953669
Didn’t click that link because I didn’t care, and then I come to this comment and find out that anon was talking about shylily? Wtf

>>28961255
The incline is insane.

>>28961255

>>28967209
>now tell me how many Vtubers can achieve that if we remove Nijisanji out of the picture
99% of numbers discussion on this board will be pure bullshit if remove both Nijisanji and Hololive out of the picture.
This board literally calls streamers that have around 1000 CCV median or more than 100K sub as a failure, which is the fucking dream of 95% of this industry.

Turns out only Niji fans want to see homos on screen.

>>28963968
>shota
some controversy from his past life
>glasses girl
shitposts a lot on twitter and seems batshit crazy, also might be unironically homo

>>28968997
>might be unironically homo
Is that supposed to be a bad thing?

>>28968997
What kind of controversy?

>>28971527
Check the archive for the previous NijiEN threads, cba to write the whole story here.

I hope the boys do well :)

>>28971648
God fuck his voice is terrible

>>28968997
didnt aia amare send congrats to maglord?

>>28952963
>since gen 4, arguably gen 3
You can’t be this retarded. Myth came after Gen 5 and are the single biggest vtuber generation across all companies.

>>28973620
Mag transcends sexual orientation

>>28963968
Glasses has been going full retard on twitter, it's like the girl opens the app to be as obnoxious as possible.

>>28973620
He's bi

>>28971648
Hilarious. EN branch was a mistake after all

>>28961255
slow and steady, nijiEN is grinding to the top

>>28967209
>LMAO they just had 40k people watching their debut
They are tourist and only come to see the first holoEN male, comeback when they still keep 40k after two months

>>28971648
The archives are unusable

>>28950542
Holofag here. I just don't want males. Not even a unicorn either, I simply have no interest in males so I want them all gone. I only watch vtubers to look at cute girls, why would I want to acknowledge the existence of males.
>n-nijifag!
No. Any potential cuteness of the Niji(EN) girls is removed by how much they act like ugly normalfags on twitter and whatnot. NijiJP has some cute girls, but I don't have time to watch them.
Basically shut the fuck up with your retarded company tribalism instead of paying attention to what's really important here. Then again it's not like you watch streams either so I doubt you give a shit about that.

>>28977323
Based

>>28949024
>shit stirrer can't count properly
Be lenient with him anon
OP is using all of his brain cells to falseflag as concernfag

>>28977323
>Not even a unicorn either, I simply have no interest in males so I want them all gone.
Sorry schizo, this doesn't add up. If you have no interest and aren't a unicorn, then why do you want them gone? Just don't watch and move on.

>>28949343
not just animation but this model art is amazing too

>>28949736
This. I’d rather watch an irl streamer than watch some faggot larp as an anime boy.

>Numberfagging
>Nijikek
Many such cases

>>28980810
I don't give a shit about how many dicks their roommates have sucked, all I want is for them to be cute while streaming. And I have no interest in seeing males at all.

>>28949306
Yeah and gura has twice as many subs as pekora and marine with half their average CCV. most western fans are dead subs.

>>28953561
How is that argument even relevant?

>>28977323
I clicked on a random thread in /v/ and i care for neither niji, vshojo or hololive, but holy fuck you sound like a loser

>>28957069
>Vox was already a success way before his debut
being a 2view in an RP server isn't what you can call successful.

>>28963968
Shota has a tranny voice
Glasses is an obnoxious "I'M GAY HURR" poster

>>28968085

>>28981673
Or time zones split the audience, you retard.

>>28984023
Fuck off tourist, that's the whole point of being in /vt/

>>28949736
Cry, moan and scream, brony. It will happen all the same. And good riddance to you parasites - may 2019 come back and never end.

>>28984448
"lol"

"nijinigger" here, decided to give them a chance simply because both of dudes that debuted so far seem like genuinely cool people who don't deserve being treated like subpar creators just because they debuted in female dominated company. hope they find their niche and dedicated audience regardless of the numbers. hope the other 2 dudes have nice debuts and get lots of love, enough to make hololive seriously invest in that branch.

>>28948931
they forgot to say prease sabscraibu

I honestly have more hope for these dudes as streamers than the current EN females. Both Myth and Council have stagnated to a point of not being worth watching outside of large events.

>>28984448
>Ina: Shit I've been magged
kek

>>28961255
Of all the things to do, debuting a mixed gen is a stroke of genius. It creates a very organic "friends group" narrative, while also getting some shit past the radar (like the fact they had to scrape the barrel so hard they didn't gave enough people for a full wave of guys or girls).

>>28977323
Just don't watch males

>>28984313
this is great

>>28949798
There's no second chance these days if you flop on debut
there's too many new vtubers these days, even inside hololive
its ogre

Who's this even for? Male vtubers are cringe.

>>28957355
>The fact that they have the Holostars debuff but yet are basically close enough to NijiEN’s sub count already
you dumb fucking cunt the new niji wave hasn't even debuted yet. once they do they'll leave them in the dust

>Reach 1m subs
>Top the superchat lists for any given month
>Buy a house with your streaming profits
>Get a nendo
Wanna know what I'm talking about?
All things not a single holo male will ever achieve.
Even all your completely inorganic mag posting bullshit couldn't prop him up, he's being beaten by the gay fujo.

Enjoy those L's holofriends, I'll be sitting here on the winning team.

>>28987359
Im an indiefag so i root for neither but ill wait till 1 month after debut to give a judgement

>>28949840
He panders better to the target demographic than Magboi

>>28987517
If we're talking about sub count than obviously nijis are well ahead. it's cover that should be concerned that their homos post-debut can't even edge ahead the niji homos pre-debut

>>28987363
Enjoy your gay fujo bait that you probably dont even watch, I will take my bro over that shit anyday.

>>28987363
Vox unironically always feels like 1 yabe away from losing everything.

>>28988173
he has several and he's more than okay

>>28988173
Unless he support Taiwan as a country, he is too big too fail now

>>28987359
NijiEN has an advantage for sure, but I doubt the gap will be anywhere near as massive nowadays because there's going to be 26 talents in the branch. Most people will probably stick with who they know, like Luxiem's fans not all subbing to Noctyx.

>>28948931
Great, hopefully all the male vtuber vtubers and their fans stay in Niji. I just want to watch cute anime girls, If I want to watch a guy I might as well just watch an actual streamer.

>>28987363
Only gross fat fujos care about voxx, go kill yourself

>>28987363
Hey, don't say that. You're making holosisters cry..

>>28981673
Gura is the exception because she blew up as a meme. Other ENs have reasonable CCV for their sub numbers.

>>28987363
Completely irrelevant because of his content. People who gloat with his numbers don't even watch his streams, unless you're a fujoshit.

>>28949840
Japs and women unironically like blue boy

>>28950572
Nice try falseflagger. Nobody who follows Holo cares. In Hololive there is a clear separatiom between Hololive and Stars. You don't see random streams getting raided by males like in NijiEN.
StarsEN will be exactly like StarsJP, they will primarily only collab with each other or with people from outside the company. There's going to be a very occasional collab with a Hololive girl every few months at absolute most, and probably only the subhuman ones like Mori or Ollie, exactly the way it goes with StarsJP.

Wonder how much CCV they can average. 500?

>>28996685
around 1k-2k in 2 months from now

>>28949234
Its because indies care about how they look and will spend extra on themselves even if it isn't immediatly profitable. They employ people who know what they are doing and are passionate. Corpos who just look at the bottom line see spending more money on a model/rigging is money lost, they employ people through nepotism. Along the entire process no one really cares they are just doing their job

>>28996848
I have no idea what kind of viewship Scientist Calrissian had before this but I honestly think he traded down with this gig with how much the old videos had

>>28996848
In 2 months time men will be watching the new and old holoEN girls or niji loli/brown girl and the female audience will still be with nijisanjiEN

>>28998400
can I have a nijisanjiEN watching gf, please?

>>28984556
As a nijinigger what do you think of all the sexual jokes the most recent EN gens have been doing? "Bottom haha top top bottom 99% haha im coming over. "

>>28961255
I will fuck aster regardless of her gender!

>>28998620
really tired of them, i think every person should have some kind of unique brand of humor/memes, usually related to their lore or design. repeating the same lines and bottom tier twitch humor turns me off, only interested in Maria and maybe the alien dude since they seem to be more pretty normal and don't spam that shit for attention.

>>28998863
Good opinion. Everybody is just following in the footsteps of Shoto and Voxs growth and can't have their own personality.

>>28977323
Holo males have existed long before your EN whores. Find a better suited vtubing group for you.
I don't want cross branch collabing either, but in this case, you're the parasite. I see Mori inserting herself in Mag's chat and shifting the conversation from the brand new underdog debuting to herself, while Reggie stays silent in Astel's chat on a stream that is literally talking about him until the perfect opportunity for tsukkomi, which makes everyone laugh at the situation and enhances the stream.
I hate women, and I especially hate western women.

>>28998488
watch the Luxiem gay stream to have thing tao talk to them when you hit on them at con

Why is Hololive still the top dog in the Vtuber industry if they're getting mogged in debut views/subs?

>>28948931
>Numberfagging Holostars
Do nijifriend really that desperate?

Not super familiar with how Niji works but is the reason Niji pulls better numbers on their English debuts is because it's part of their main attraction, whereas Holostars is kinda like the side thing for Hololive which is why they are largely ignored?

Or is it unironically that Niji has had better talents debuting lately?

>>29000745
Aren't JP niji males also a lot more successful than the stars? Seems to be normal.

>>29001053
yeah but it seems like Niji males are far higher budget than any Holostars shit. Not sure if that actually has anything to do with it or if Niji has better style

>>28950717
cover is a shit company that has no idea what their doing

>>28949343
tits too small to care

>>29001301
>Niji has better style
It's this. Nijisanji has some ridiculous male designs, but a majority of them are handsome dudes that don't have a fucking retarded design.

>>28987359
not after their sub bots get culled by susan

I have a feeling they'll do fine since they are the only Hololive male EN offering.

>>29009167
I don't see why the average person who watches males in first place would care if NijiEN is already full of pretty gayboys.