/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

She's right, men and women can't coexist without having sex

>>28894725
Become an anti. Spam their shit and fuck up their twitter tags. Until you faggots grow a pair of balls, nothing will ever change.

>>28894725
Bae just went about it really weirdly, talking to her chat with the tone of a special ed teacher (not that id know from first hand experience)

If any of hololive is /here/ don't listen to any of the retards who post here. There is no "silent majority". You won't notice any significant change in your numbers when you talk to males.

>>28895027
Based

>>28894725
>it feels like they treat us as kids that can´t imagine a man and a woman coexisting if not in porn
true for /vt/sisters

>>28895077
Because she doesn't respect her chat. She thinks they're losers and that was the first time her real feelings came out.

>>28895117
I agree that /vt/ overreacts about males, but it's not numbers they should be worried about; it's super chats and merch. Even the chuubas who don't do gfe/bfe still get most of their money from hardcore fans who are in love with them and will get jealous if they interact with the opposite sex.

It's dumb because it's not that we can't imagine it, it's that, that's not what we watch hololive for. Cute anime girls doing things with other cute anime girls is a legit genre. Hololive is breaking the rules it set for its audience. That's what annoys most people. And that the normies act like this is an unreasonable thing to enjoy

>>28895298
She's not wrong, hell that's based. Fuck chat

>>28895117
SHUT UP NIJIKEK!

>>28895465
THIS. FUCKING THIS. /thread

unicorniggers stay in your containment schizo-threads

>>28895465
>Hololive is breaking the rules it set for its audience.
They already broke their own rules when they decided to start pandering to unicorns in 2019, effectively shitting on the people who just wanted good fun without the burden of taking the idol image seriously. But of course, you weren't around back then.

>>28895117
History shows the exact opposite.

>>28895117
Say that to Matsuri and Ollie

>>28895655
This is the Hololive board, you insufferable faggot.
This IS the unicorn board.

>>28895655
Nijicuck poster

>>28895027
I hate them but I will never lower myself to the same level as the Zhangs that are spamming Friend. Fuck off.

>>28895465
>Most people
Huh?

>>28895117
Even non Vtuber female now what you say is a lie, go back nijicuck

>>28895799
Neither were you or else you'd remember how Sora has always been an idol or how Matsuri was told not to scream when she debuted because it wasn't idol-like.
You're selectively remembering the few sponsored collabs with males from Niji and saying that that was the standard that they all followed back then. It wasn't.
You're trying to rewrite history to suit your own tastes, but those of us here from back then know you're full of shit.

>>28896098
Then you will lose what you care about. You will lose the Hololive that you enjoy.

>>28895949
Both are Apex addict and they're terrible at it. There's nothing to do with males.

>>28895117
>>28895494
>>28895655
You need to get the fuk bck to leddit motherfuckers.

>>28895027
This.

>>28894725
>>28895077
That’s just Bae assuming her fans have no object permanence and that she has to specify this every time she interacts with Stars. It’s something specific to her in this case.

lmfao

>>28895949
>Ollie
You mean one of the highest subbed ID girls?
>Festival
You mean one of the JP girls that has a million subs despite some other JP girls never interacting with males and STILL don't have 1mil?
embarrassing dude

>>28895298
No she just doesnt respect unicorns, which are a tiny part of her fanbase

>>28896391
You need to get some bitches and quit crying that your online vtuber waifu talked to a male

>>28896465
>joins an idol company
>acts like an animal in heat
what the fuck is her problem

>>28896625
Because she's a whore.

>>28896730
>acts like an animal in heat
it's just fucking bingo

>>28896730
Mori, Bae, and Ollie do not belong in Hololive.

>>28896733
Whore is so overused come on try harder unicorn..

>>28896812
No. She's obsessed with males and interacting with them in front of her fans, just like Mori and Ollie.

>>28896730
Sir that is just a bingo card I think you need your meds

>>28895077
Lets pretend vtuber fans aren't retarded

>>28896892
Sorry Bae your not allowed to collab with who you want because some crybaby unicorns will complain on /vt/ and then still superchat and member anyways

>>28895405
This is the same reason they put up with Chinese nationalists and look where that got them.
These delusional fucks will turn on their oshis because they saw her cheat on them in a dream. Better to cut them off.

>>28896540
You check out the ccv numbers on matsuri the last year anon? She's the queen of dead subscribers. She lost a ton of viewers because of that hand.

Miko, Pekora, and Marine run hololive and all three basically ignore Stars. Even though Marine is obviously straight, she knows what her viewers want and it's not a bunch of male voices on stream

>>28896892
>obsessed with males and interacting with them
That's what I saw your mom doing last night

>>28897238
Matsuri was in the gutter long before the hand. People didn't even go to her for GFE. Matsuri flatlined because she just played Apex all the time but wasn't even good enough to be worth watching like Towa.

>>28896730
Jesus christ, it's just bingo anon
Take meds, every little action is the equivalent of fucking for retarded subhumans like you

>>28896999
trips of truth

>>28895405
That's why Bae made it known on day 1 during her debut. She got rid of all the parasocial unicorns from the start, and it didn't affect her at all. She has the 2nd most amount of superchats within council behind Kronii.

>>28896327
Fine by me, I'd still be able to see myself on the mirror everyday and be thankful my skin hasn't turned yellow and my physique is still above the average human being not having it regressed into a flimsy, insect-like form, unlike you.

>>28895405
Its their choice.
Let them do what they want. They have to face the consequences.

>>28897832
This. Fans warned them, now it's up to them to realize what will happen.

>>28894725
Females who stream with males commit suicide. That's all there is. Both sides are wrong. The silent bros who support will instinctively find reasons to abandon their memberships. And views will drop when so many clippers can just clip the best part. HoloEN is fucking done. Anyone who claims otherwise is more delusional than the schizos Full stop.

>>28897537
>second highest with council
Oh, the copium. Anon...you need grass
And to say Bae hasn't lost is dumb. I unsubscribed the day she posted that. She lost.

>>28897999
False. I will start a viral clipping channel shipping all the members and singlehandedly save their careers.

This is what happens when you don't mating press the rat before she starts talking.

>>28898191
Uhh...... nta but he's right lmao
You are the one running on copium my friend

>>28897537
Gee I wonder what possibly could have caused Fauna and Mumei to fall behind Bae...

>>28898564
KEK

>>28896887
Fine. Take your pick:
Whore.
Prostitute.
Hooker.
Concubine.
Courtesan.
Lady of the Evening.
Streetwalker.
Slut.
Harlot.
Tramp.
Strumpet.
Bitch.
Floozy.
Hussy.
Call Girl.
Loose Woman.
Nymphomaniac.
Trollop.
Bimbo.
Ho.
Slag.
Jezebel
Tart.
Jade.
Skank.
Hustler.

Or some adjectives:
Slattern.
Lascivious.
Licentious.
Prurient.
Salacious.
Debauched.
Debased.
Corrupted.
Bawdy.
Lecherous.
Perverted.
Concupiscent.
Vitiated.
Corrupt.
Defiled.
Unclean.
Dirty.
Sullied.
Soiled.
Ruined.
Tainted.
Impure.
Profaned.
Adulterated.
Obscene.
Ribald.
Indecent.
Offensive.
Immoral.
Smutty.
Shameless.
Unchaste.
Admixed.
Libertine.
Lewd.
Vulgar.

And there's an entire other set of Japanese words as well.

>>28898600
Slattern Trollop or Prurient Streetwalker are my go tos.

>>28898600
I didn't ask for your mum's various nicknames around the streets

>>28896465
jesas if only she had this enthusiasm to be the leader of council

>>28898850
Fauna...

>>28898850
Bae's not my mom. I'm most likely older than her.

>>28898564
Neither of them bait for SCs, and that’s the biggest factor there. Mumei even once told her chat to send fewer when she was already at the bottom of EN. Fauna does pretty much everything short but f pulling an Ina to debuff her SC revenue.

>Kiara asked for permission from her chat to collab with males
>Mori "Dadded" them, pretending she didn't collab with TT twice or the HomoStars JP
>Ame tried to downplay everything with extremely vague terms about compliance
>Ina and Gura stayed quiet about it
>Bae speaking to her fans like pouty children

Hololive: Where man-children are encouraged

>>28899244
Good, they need to pander to me.

>>28898850
gottem

>>28898191
>parasocial unicorn telling others to touch grass
Are you really this retarded

>>28898850
KEK

>>28898222
>I will start-
The fact you haven't already means you can't do it, bitch. You'd have done it by now.

>>28895117
The issue is the gachis who spend money are into idolshit. Your casual fan isn't gonna buy overpriced merch and send superchats every stream. Also normalfags who wants streaming will just watch regular streamers, not vtubers. Even thenmost normalfag vtuber like ironmouse doesn't bring in boyfriend stuff into her persona, she even recently shut down the Connor shipping.

>>28894725
Man and woman can't coexist.
Even in Japan everything about them is separate

>>28894725
Didn't she say she was specifically talking to the "unicorns" in that stream?

>>28897537
Bro she literally spoke to her fanbase about Stars like they were retards in special ed.

>>28899455
>People actually gave money to Sana to not stream
For what purpose?

>>28897537
if she got rid of them, who is she talking to then?

>>28899748
>retards in special ed
so basically /vt/

>>28899575
They haven't even debuted yet, brainlet. Think before you type.

>>28899714
Inshallah, vtuber fans will finally see the light! Men and women must be kept separate and our oshis will remain pure, subhanallah.

>>28899455
You must not have read the thread I replied to. Do that, faggot. Before you post shit that doesn't add further to my argument. Council is ASS compared to MYTH. That was comment. So post Myths stats or go fuck your own ass.

>>28899748
Nah she said beforehand that most of her fans are nice and well adjusted people, then she proceeded to address the unicorns

>>28899966
This but unironically

>>28899455
Sana is proof that women don't even need to do anything to become rich

>>28899810
She was a SC monster early on when she actually streamed often.
>>28899853
She probably assumes that a bunch filter back in from time to time.

>>28896812
>it's just bingo
>it's just hosting the debuts
>it's just a manager mandated collab
>it's just a small impromptu collab
>it's just a once a week collab
>it's just a duet karaoke stream
>it's just 3D debuts together in person
inb4 slippery slope fallacy
Yeah nah I saw you fucks saying StarsEN was never going to happen in the first place.

>>28900011
>You must not have read the thread
Are you talking about yourself? You must really be retarded if you can't even locate your own posts. Go link where you mentioned Myth in the thread chain.

>>28896225
>You're trying to rewrite history to suit your own tastes
So are you faggot
HoloJP collabs with stars, nijijp males, indie males, and even non vtuber males
What the fuck are you talking about with "breaking the rules"?

>>28894725
I wonder if there is some segment of the fanbase the girls are very aware of that's made of very underaged gachikoi

>>28900396
You are coping hard and not making any sense. Go grass

>>28900213
That all sounds great actually, but I'm still holding out for the world tour gangbang that gets you shizos out of our hair for good.

>>28900700
You are looking for underage SEA unicorns, being underage probably means they don't have money.
Gachikoi is someone who donates alot and buys merch, that would just make them underage unicorns

>>28900213
Screenshot this post and look at it in 3 years anon. How do you actually genuinely care about this shit this much because of some ill conceived notion about cuckolding?

>>28900213
If you have a cuckold fetish you can just state it rather than this weird dance you are doing.

>>28898191
>I unsubscribed the day she posted that. She lost.
Minus one retard is a definite win

>>28896465
This is actually sad man...

>>28899455
A lot of those are free, looks like bingo will be mine.

>28894725
Do you think she'd be this hyped and enthusiastic if it was hololive EN3 women debuting and not males?

>>28901773
Yes? have you seen how hyped she was for Mori last night?
She is always like this

Bae is going to off-collab with the Aussie member of holostars. But she won't stream it, if you know what I mean.

>>28894725
Tfw Ina conditioned me to not be in a parasocial relationship and will be welcoming any interaction with Tempus.

>>28901138
Minus one of her memberships that has been with her since day one? That's a win? You are a retard. Which is probably why you accept Bae's treatment. Nextfag

>>28901773
Yeah, did you miss how hyped she was for holoX and ID3, I can imagine en3 would be very similar.

>>28898876
It's some shit management gave them
A-Chan posted the exact same thing

>>28903019
Cutting her SC revenue in half to avoid parasocials is unironically based.

>>28903067
>Day 1 member
>not expecting this

>>28900772
Go back up your arguments. Your English is a bit hard to understand

>>28903000
Asian girl thirsty for white male juice. Nothing new

>>28904199
>Holostars EN
>white

>>28904199
why does anyone act like the vast majority of the english vtubing scene isn't still asians

>>28906381
It's just easier to find asian women who are into this kind of thing because white chicks don't like anime and vidya. Male applications are gonna be a lot less skewed.
Still skewed. But less skewed.

>>28895117

>>28903281
Just trace the messages, goy. It leads to me saying Council is trash to MYTH. Let's just talk about that instead of you dancing around shidding and fardding

>>28895117
>There is no "silent majority"
That's where you're wrong, bucko.

>>28907681
Women do whatever is required for male attention. That includes ugly women with talents.

>>28896812
people on this board have a Taliban-level obsesion with female purity. Even mentioning the existence of male V-tubers makes them "whores" apparently.

>>28898564
What are you implying?

>is the thirstiest holoen
>gets mad about it

lmao I can only imagine how fans would react if Gura were to collab with the holostars

>>28926557
>is the thirstiest holoen
That’s IRyS though.

>>28894725
Take a look around here and it will become obvious in about 2 seconds why some chuubas speak to their audience like they're special needs children.

>>28894725
I hate this bitch

>>28894725
They treat the audience like kids because they act like kids.
See the reaction to Ame's homo mention as a prime example.

>>28894725
>it feels like they treat us as kids that can´t imagine a man and a woman coexisting if not in porn.
I mean..

>>28899641
One whale is worth 500 greys. That's the real thing. Collabing with males presents no positives. It only enrages the very base who keeps all this floating.

>>28894725
Basically, I'm just not going to watch whores. I know. UGH I know! I'm sorry!!! It's just that I'm not going to watch whores is all.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>28894725

That the Aspies who think "She talked to a guy, that means they're dating / fucking!" There are way more than you think within the community.

>>28931294
Not at all. Superchats don't make up enough of income percentage unless you are sub 100.
>b-b-b-b-but merch
Fans buy less merch but give better demographic info then whales meaning merch can be better adapted to them

>>28909259
>Just trace the messages, goy
Okay, you go do that. Myth is not mentioned once in the entire comment chain

>>28927354
t. clips kun
IRyS is only for doctor san.

>>28894725
Most people don't need to be told this. The people who need to hear it require a special needs teacher to break it down like their five.

>>28924564
And that's based, go somewhere else for your daily dose of sluts you fucking normalscum.

>>28933575
This anon needs some rough buttfucking

>NOOO YOU HAVE TO LET HER DO WHATEVER SHE WANTS AND STILL PAY HER
who are the simps here?

>>28934268
No one said that, if she loses profits, thats on her
You can leave, no one is forcing you to pay for anything

>>28895117
Attention hololive females I will cease watching you immediately if you collab with males

>>28894725
>us

>>28934732
Fuck off fag and nobody cares

>>28934732

>>28894725
Stop cuckbaiting faggot

We lost the wrong council member.

>>28895117
>silent majority
It's not silent majority, everyone tell you this is stupid, that majority is very vocal about it, you just look the other way and refuse to listen.

Artia is laughing right now.

why did they erase the watchalong?

>>28894725

All I want is to see Holostars EN to share the Minecraft server with Hololive EN

>>28937076
That will not happen at all and I do like the boys
Because there's portals to holoJP server and I don't think they will be ever allowed to do that.

>>28895117
Fubuki's views take a noticeable dip when she collabs with Homos. Marine has straight up said that male collabs would be like a 30% pay cut. You're delusional.

>>28908447
>oboretai
Homobeggar prime, kill yourself

Bae doesn't even know what she's doing, every time she interacts with the Stars she comes back with some sort of GFE stream to damage control

>>28894725

>>28895117
I think you should kill yourself

Thanks for reminding me I just unmembered from Bae, Ame too. Then also Ina cuz she never streams and hates her fans. Only Fauna and Kiara for me.

>>28898600
Oh hey, it's your sister!

>>28938868
What are you smoking?
I wish Bae did GFE, that valentines one was kino.

>>28895117
Look at any streamer that does male collabs the views drop. Also look at any streamer that mentions a boyfriend, they lose a sizeable amount of members, subs, and viewers.
These same fans probably claim "idol culture is toxic" and "these aren't your virtual girlfriends" but at the end of the day they are there for the same reason we are and ultimately say so with their money and views.

>>28938868
I fucking wish

Normie fags push for male/female collabs then “touch grass”, leaving real fans to suffer through this normie mixer bullshit.

>>28937076
Go stick your tongue im a power socket

>>28895117
>Muh everyone actually wants to watch the oshis get raw dogged on stream by the homos! argument
>Towa lost nearly her entire Jap fanbase from a single male voice on stream and had to be rescued by the EOPs
>Za Hando tanked Matsuri's channel even lower than it already was
>People heard a knock on Laplus's stream and it got so out of control with cuck talk that she had to bring her gf on stream to shut it down
>Mumei and Fauna got annihilated at debut for obvious reasons and still haven't recovered fully
>Amepocalypse nearly broke /jp/ at the time and made talking about hololive impossible
>Rushia's entire career went up in flames because of a single discord DM from a male
>Fubuki lost a ton of subs for tilting a video "introducing you all to my bf" when it was actually her cat
>Trans-Atlantic cock
>The retarded yubigate yab that somehow got traction
Anon I can keep listing examples of just how fucking retarded you are if you'd like?

>>28931104
what?

>>28895117
Do you know who pays their bills? 100% not homobeggars, clip watchers, nijikeks, cucks. No, it's the schizophrenic, rich, gachikois that are in love with the holomem, that drop red superchats to the person they love

>>28934706
i am going to kill bae on September 17th at 6:09 pm with a handgun and find some kind of way to blame it on one of you cucks

>>28940404
it was me

>>28894725
This is natural human law, men and women cannot be just friends

>>28940872
They really can't. I've even told women: every male "friend" you have would have sex with you the moment they let you.

>>28941147
that's not always true, i'm friends with a few bulldykes that i wouldn't fuck

>>28937076
Good way to make sure that EN server lose connection to JP server.

>>28941263
Allright they don't count.

>>28895979
Have you missed the Mag spam that has been going on for the past week?

>>28939760
s-shut up that's not true!

>>28939760
So what you're telling me is that they could get rid of the living land mine they're all sitting on, stop having to walk on eggshells, and still pull in six figures like Mumei and Fauna?
Dope, let's do it, just like when they dropped the entire CN market because the fans were too fragile.

Cringe. I’m unsubbing and blocking any clip channels that make homo clips. Already blocked a few.

>>28939760
>Fubuki lost a ton of subs for tilting a video "introducing you all to my bf" when it was actually her cat
Wasn't that more of a fake graduation announcement than a fake boyfriend reveal?

>>28940249
Superchats and direct donations are less than 10% of any given streamer's income once they're streaming to an audience of thousands.

>>28894725
She treated the unicorns like kids because unicorns are mentally and socially maladjusted.

>>28898191

Her numbers are still going up. This means this was just yet another event in your life where you didn't matter to anybody but yourself.

>>28894725
If a streamer I like is collaborating with a streamer I don't like, I don't watch it. And I am less enthusiastic to watch their content in the future because they are putting out content I don't watch to watch. Simple as.

It's quite nice to have quantifiable proof that the majority do not want holostars simply based on the debut subs compared to Council or Irys

>>28894725
It's not looking good for Bae honestly. She already has a debuff voice and debuff commentary. Winning Son is one thing, but regular male collabs will be a death sentence.

I want to prone-bone Bae while she watches Tempus and fangirls about how cool they are

>>28939618
Hair trigger much?

>>28895117
This. Only global is seething

>>28903238
This.

Fuck parasocials

>>28896225
Nice to see you're still coping about Miko's male collabs three years later. Some things never change!

>>28939760
good post, but it will be ignored

>>28940249
>rich
None of you maladapted losers are successful in any respect, especially not financially. Gachikoi that donate a ton are mentally ill, and any Holo that caters to this audience is immoral.

>>28895117
Ollie used to be the most popular ID talent by far before she went full on Homo pandering.

>>28894725
>it feels like they treat us as kids
/vt/ is full of manchildren and the responses in this thread is proof of that

>>28939760
None of these had any effect outside a couple of dedicated schizos making threads here. Watch streams.

>>28950848
you have no idea how mentally ill and single many high income earners are

>>28895117
Sorry bud, whether you like it or not, GFE coomers are a large chunk of super chats and merch purchasers.

>>28951506
Superchats are irrelevant, every Holo would rather choose a pleasant community rather than the pittance they get from supas in comparison. Merch is purchased by all kinds of fans.

pandering to mental illness is fucking stupid and nipping that shit in the bud is the smartest move a chuuba can make
>muh numbers
the extra money isn't worth all the baggage that comes with it

>>28952344
You're cute anon. It seems that your idea of a normal schizo progression is that he will leave the corrupted chuuba once she proclaims she's gonna collab with the males. The truth is that schizo will just keep assaulting them for every minor yab she has. All of those ex-bae unicorns are now her antis. She is gonna do an Ollie/Mori where she'll need a break after reading constant online slanders.

>>28895077
she was talking to them like she was introducing a bull into the relationship

>>28952854
>All of those ex-bae unicorns are now her antis.
Yeah, pretty much.

>>28952859
Is the bull going to have sex with us?

>>28952854
Who cares, they'll get bored eventually. Better than attracting more of them and walking on egg shells for the rest of your career.

>>28953174
That's not how it works.

>>28951164
an almost nil percentage, given how to be a high-income earner, you NEED TO BE SANE AND FUNCTION IN SOCIETY

>>28953571
I wish that was true.

>>28953201
>Antis get bored
Coco had antis using bots in her stream until she retired lmao

>>28953374
>no sex from oshi
>no sex from the bull
What's the point of stick around?

>>28953695
That's the cuck life. If you don't like it you don't stick around.

>>28953652
Bugs are a different kind

>the existence of Mori disproves all the bullshit on why collabing with males is bad and no unicornfag dare wants to bring her up when they start trying to debate their shit. They can only cry "cuck cuck cuck!" at her fans
Oh so that's why she has so many antis here now I get it, huh

>>28953970
You seem to be quite obsessed with dicks

>>28953652
Her antis were Chinese nationalists and she told them to fuck off in her apology stream. The yab was major enough to make Cover graduate the CN branch so I don't think it's that comparable.

>>28954067
mori is proof that they're right

>>28954097
just fuck off bug

>>28954040
Who are you quoting?

>>28953970
Unfortunate.

>>28954056
You didn't figure that out from the "sex with the bull" part?

Did anyone archive the watchalong VOD?

>>28954252
He's quoting me.

>>28939760
you're responding to a twitter tourist that doesn't watch streams.

>>28954056
You're the first person to bring up dicks in this thread. I just explained to that guy that he's about to get cucked and should walk away if wants to avoid it.

>>28954040
Mori used to be the superchat queen of EN and reclined into being a NijiEN tier shitter who struggles to get 5k viewers. If anything she's the prime example of how catering to greynames rather than your gachis fucks you over. Even her music isn't doing so hot lately, Holy Shitto flopped hard

>>28954448
She's the most successful singer in hololive, by miles of whoever is your oshi anon. That alone makes up for the superchats

>>28954553
>She's the most successful singer in hololive

Why does Bae want this so badly?
She joined Holo, as opposed to anything else so she had to have known what she was signing up for.
Even as a general rule guys just don't care for male vtubers.
It's not like she's not allowed to talk to them if she really wants to but when you stream you're doing it for an audience.
There's literally no reason for them to feel like they're being unfairly treated or oppressed because their audience doesn't want to watch those kinds of streams.

>>28954448
She started her career doing a TT collab. No one outside here gave a shit, and she got a bunch of fans from doing it too. To be honest, I have all her socials blocked so I don't even know how much viewers she gets anymore. But I think it's more likely she alienated viewers doing what she does best; acting like a bitch and picking fights with her antis. Her concert was really popular though so I doubt she's too unhappy about how she's doing at the moment.

>>28954597
>Pic not related

>>28952859
terrifyingly accurate

>>28954597
He needs this anon. Let him have this one.

>>28954684
He’s right though

Just a reminder that a lot of anti GFE anti gachikoi threads are pushed by a Discord of Niji male loving fujos
You retards are literally arguing with women. I'll just stick to loving my own oshi who will never collab with men

>>28954597
>2 octaves

>>28954812
Proof next thread?

>>28954597
Rumao, you're right anon maybe Mori needs to give suzi more space to sell her one album

>>28954667
Nah you can tell there's a shift going on. Normies are loud about how they love that shit but when push comes to shove they don't show up, they just quietly leave. All the stuff about wanting male collabs is performative virtue signalling. If reddit loves the homos so much why don't they watch them?

Moris music is not good enough to get normies to listen to it. She got shit on by a whole horde of tik tok fags. The only reason people listen to her music is they're invested in supporting her vtuber persona. If she poisons that persona by turning off her core fanbase then she will recline and you can already see it happening in her inability to draw audiences to her streams and her MMVs getting progressively worse views.

>>28954812
I don't doubt that there's some form of organized posting but why would that group in particular want this result.
They love to ship guys with other guys so they should want the girls to stick to their own group too.

I wish every unicorn a very nice day :)

>>28954448
She's doing concerts in both her Holo and RM personas with a signing to a major label and you still think streaming is her focus?

>>28955059
Of course it's not her focus. That's why she's reclining heavily. Her music can't stand alone without her streaming activity to prop it up by giving her gachis material to want to support her.

>>28894725
>they treat us as kids
tbf most fans are either manchildren, actual kids or retards and pedos larping as kids

>>28955115
The gachis aren't buying 500 copies of her album anon, the normal fans buy it because it's cheaper than a red brick and they actually get something.
If anything it makes her less dependent on parasocials.

>>28955334
>The gachis aren't buying 500 copies of her album anon
Oh ho ho ho ho. You should really know better anon. Idolfans regularly buy 10+ copies of their oshis CDs to support them. There is nothing where a normalfag is superior to a gachi in terms of support.

https://soranews24.com/2014/05/22/akb48-fan-shows-his-love-the-only-way-he-knows-how-by-buying-300000-worth-of-cds/

>>28955462
>the retarded superfan from that furry taxi anime was real

Its simple to me though, once a HoloEN girl collabs with a male, specially one on one.
I will immediately stop supporting them by leaving all possible connection. From membership to twitter.
If you can't tell by now, I'm not following some of them already.
I'm not going to argue with anyone, I'll just lurk around.
You're doing great Gura. Don't mention or acknowledge their existence.

I unsubbed from all of Hololive except Gura, whom I trust. The point here is that I simply will not watch and support any chuuba that collabs with males, or the COMPANY itself since it betrayed the whole reason I was watching them. I don't watch Nijisanji for the same male cancer reasons though I enjoyed some of their EN female talents. I only support Gura, but I'll drop even her if she collabs with males.

That's basically it.

>>28955562
I haven't been watching gura for a while, but now that it's come to this she's the only one I trust, so I'll watch her again

>>28955544
>>28955562
The good news for you is that Gura is probably one of the few Cover employees who wasn't forced to have sex with a higher up.

>>28955562
Good, being a corporate drone is fucking retarded in any case. Watch vtubers, not corpos.

>>28955562
>>28955544
Are these AI generated?

>>28955562
Niji is not even an idol company but I stopped supporting Ars right when they started shipping hard with gayknight. Not to mention all those one on one collabs.

>>28952854
People like you are actual retards who don't even watch streams, Bae said from day one that she was going to collab with dudes, if she has any unicorns at that point, that's entirely their fault

>>28955749
Yes am bot

>>28955749
No they real people. Unlike you wojak bot.

>>28894725
I watch these streams for cute girls being cute, not cute girls with a side of annoying dudebro anitubers

>>28955850
Facts.

>>28895117
Agreed 100%.

>>28894725
yeah baelz is a low-tier shitter for a reason

>>28955807
You don’t have to be a unicorn to dislike this direction.
Why does Hololive have to change now? They’ve survived for nearly 2 years with very little interaction with Stars.
People watching obviously prefer Holo to stay in Holo too.
Why does bae want to collab with them a bunch now that they speak English when she could have collabed with them all before?

>>28956051
but she hasn't mentioned anything about collabs.

>>28956010
I'm starting to see that now.

I haven't seen so many threadreaders in a while.

>>28956051
Nothing is changing for Hololive or Bae here anon.
She has never said anything about collabing a "bunch" even in this clip in the OP, she says that will do it sometime in the future.
She literally only promoted them on the main channel so far, no collabs have happened yet
so yeah, I'd say you are pretty full of shit

>>28956188
>Nothing is changing for Hololive or Bae here anon.
That's what people said about NijiEN when Luxiem joined and look at them now.

>>28956249
This.

>>28954878
lmao they made mori smaller

>>28956249
You are asking for a serious grudgepost a month down the line, total public humiliation

>>28895117
Even nyannershit lost a ton of viewers and vshojo fans claim to not care at all

>>28956296
Aren't you? You're nuts if you think Mori and Bae aren't going to have bi weekly collabs with Tempus.

>>28956188
In the stream this was taken from she was pretty obviously talking about interacting with them.
It’s true that we don’t know how much they’re ultimately going to interact but the way she talked about things was worrisome for people happy with the status quo.
We’ve already seen changes and integration too with the watch along stream on the Holo EN channel of all places instead of Stars with Stars members.

>>28956490
That would require Mori to stream more than once a month.

>>28956496
>We’ve already seen changes and integration too with the watch along stream on the Holo EN channel of all places instead of Stars with Stars members.
Add to that they chose the two guests who would be the biggest pushers for this type of shit.

If I wanted a niji atmosphere with constant male x female collabs and seeing them flirt with each other guess what - I would watch Nijisanji.

But I don't.
Because that's not what I want.

>>28956249
It's not just that in my eyes. NijiEN was and remains a thing because everyone from Pomu to Elyra to Petra fought tooth and nail to make NijiEN a thing, to keep them afloat and to build it up from scratch. This worked and they created an entire culture on NijiEN, and that culture and all that effort was thoroughly destroyed by the males. It simply doesn't exist anymore. The same is happening here. HoloEN will cease to exist, its culture will be and already is being destroyed. Any HoloEN with the males just won't be the HoloEN we loved. The comparison with cancer isn't just an empty phrase.

>>28956496
That might just be a one-off decision by Omega to give extra promotion to the new stars honestly, I wouldn't count on it being mainstay

>>28956490
Surprisingly Mori gave a much better answer than Bae.
I really doubt that Mori will have many collabs with them.
Probably just shill type streams like with Rikka.

>>28956682
>I really doubt that Mori will have many collabs with them.
rumao, you're high

>>28956682
She's responded to every one of their tweets near instantly and was in both of their chats commenting. What makes you think she's suddenly going to back off and not acknowledge them once the collab ban ends?

>>28956682
Oh, so deadbeats are huffing this level of cope while throwing Bae under the bus?

>>28956907
Bae always gets thrown under the bus, but it's usually just threadreaders and shitposters though

>>28956907
NTA, but I agree. Mori gave a better answer. Bae was treating everyone like special needs children and trying to console them about the possibility of it happening. Mori just went "Fuck it, I'm already past the point of no return. Don't be surprised if it happens."

>>28956643
Why would they choose to promote Stars, who are supposed to target a different demographic, to Hololive fans?
The fact that they even tried this for EN shows a different mindset than what JP gets.
Hopefully you’re right and it’s a one off thing but I’m not holding my breath at this point.

>>28956960
I never said Mori's answer wasn't better, it's the fact that he claimed Mori won't have as many collabs with them

>>28956907
He's actually right, for a Cuckbeat. Mori gave the better answer. Her actions don't actually mesh with what she says though, as per usual.

>>28956988
Has ANY of Omega's decisions made sense so far? yeah thought so

>>28956612
>This worked and they created an entire culture on NijiEN, and that culture and all that effort was thoroughly destroyed by the males.
Very true, it was insane to see how NijiEN completely changed in a day when the first males were added.

jesus christ i hope all of your oshis collab with men schizo unicorns, take your meds

>>28957032
If you presume that he's a faggot who is trying to break down the boundary between Holostars and Hololive and forcing them all to mix in together then yeah his actions make perfect sense. Remember the "Holostars and Hololive are both under Hololive Production ;)" tweet? He hasn't exactly been subtle with what he's trying to do.

>>28956720
>>28956854
>>28956907
As far as collabs go she straight up said she wasn’t going to do them without a reason.
We’ll see what she ends up actually doing but it wasn’t a terrible answer.
She also addressed other concerns like the collab beggars and shippers telling them not to do those things.

>>28957153
i'd honestly be happier if he just arranged an orgy between all the "pure" idols and the holostars because then unicorns would shit their diapers

>>28957153
Like I said, that might just be for promotional reasons, atleast that's what I'm hoping but we shall see a month from now

>>28894725
But why would Bae even need to talk about that/explain it?
She fucks around with roberu all the time, it's not like she hasn't done this before, is she trying to explain this to fans of other holoEN fans or something?

>>28957226
Its all fun and games until they get zero support from the whales and another idol company steps up and swear that it will be a pure one.
There's no fun in idol monopoly after all.

>>28938304
Doesn't this guy try to stir up shit too against the girls who don't want to male collab? I've definitely heard that before.
He's also openly anti-gachikoi

>>28957409

they're ignoring a serious degen cuck fanbase, once you find a niche you can stick with it. also the people who take their meds will like them so long as they're still talented and entertaining

>>28957503
Right...

>>28896699
Dude you sound mad niggery, not a good look sweetie

>>28896699
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeesh, chill sweaty

Yes because she knows that vtuber fans are retarded, Amelia Watson is right "IMPROVE YOURSELF"

>>28894725
I want to fuck her so hard and the thought of her conversing with other men sickens me

>>28899877
Speak for yourself redditard, why do redditoids come here and try to speak their opinions as if it's some objective truth that they are promoting, speaking on behalf of a group that doesn't support them.

>>28957345
She was just going through things that had happened while she was away from regular streaming, tempus was one, there was mention about "those fans" in chat so i guess she thought it was a better time then any.
also
>She fucks around with roberu all the time
lol

>>28895117
Garuntee you don't even watch hololive you humongous faggot or woman. When did narcissistic retards like you decide you ought to speak on behalf of the group about something you know very little about, because it supports your political "morality" do you think reality bends to whatever you think it SHOULD be? Fucking disgusting retard cunt xD XDXDD

"too much whinny fags ITT", bae hate them papa. said twelvie rat to me. I'm nodded my head and pat her gently.

>>28894725
I'm literally going to kill myself if ame collabs with these whores.

>>28957503
Degen cucks should be ignored at best, gassed at worst.

>>28951113
this is not even cope is schizo denial of reality

>>28958018
She most likely will, also Mori and entire council.
Maybe Ina but its going to be a group one.
Zero chance with Kiara and Gura since these two knows idol culture and what their fans want.

Here's what I think
There is nothing wrong with being a gachikoi, you can cancel your support if you are unsatisfied.
Hell there is nothing wrong with being even a unicorn for someone depending on how they have led you up to that point.
If someone has been providing GFE their entire career with barely any male mentions, I can see why you would feel angry and betrayed.

However, it is an incredibly shitty and subhuman thing to shit on sweet girls who are just genuine fans of Hololive and are unity like Bae.
The Bae who has made it clear from the start of her career that she is a fan of the sharts and will collab with them, she also has historically never EVER mentioned the sharts in front of the girls on stream before. she does this for herself and doesn't want to change the current status quo of hololive
This is why I hate unicorns, stick to hating on girls you actually watch and feel like you have been betrayed by them instead of pretending to be a fake Bae fan who is suddenly hurt by these "changes" you have never watched a second of her, you don't know her so stop talking out of your ass and pretending to be a fake hurt unicorn for Bae.

>>28958018
Can you start a /noose/ general when that happens so I can laugh at you faggots

>>28958018
>worried about the 4/10 asian dude banging your fat rat

>>28958231
I can see your point, I'm more mad at the direction the company is going in due to these recent decisions being taken. I have no problem with Bae doing what she's doing as I don't think any of this is her fault.

>>28958231
Makes me wonder why she joined a Japanse Idol group...Vshojo would definitely love her.

>Thank you for building us up, you can fuck off now
Gachibros...

>>28958332
>Vshojo would definitely love her
Have you seen her VA-11 Hall-A streams?

>>28958332
she joined hololive just to suck roberu's dick lmao

>>28958422
She already did, right?
Is she graduating next?

>>28958332
No, that's on Yagoo for half-assing and making a male branch as well. He could've fully committed to an idol dream but he didn't.
She also belongs to the english side of Hololive which isn't predominantly tainted by "idol" or should I say, unicorn culture, it's entirely up the girls in how they build up their fanbase from day one.

>>28958018
Anon, Ame is THE most likely to do so and she's been groveling in front of the males and the Corporation like a whipped dog. She actively wants to collab with males and is their supporter. I've started to hate her with true hate, she's a complete scumbag that obviously gives zero fucks about anything except money. Mori is just stupid in all aspects, but I expected better from Ame. Now, there is only hate and contempt. I always thought she had common sense. I was wrong.

>>28958231
Bae's legit just a superfan that was able to get her dream job, it's a real shame that so much shit gets thrown around about such a sweet girl.

>>28958231
>This is why I hate unicorns, stick to hating on girls you actually watch and feel like you have been betrayed by them instead of pretending to be a fake Bae fan who is suddenly hurt by these "changes" you have never watched a second of her, you don't know her so stop talking out of your ass and pretending to be a fake hurt unicorn for Bae.
this is where you are wrong, imagie if no unicorn ever complained and just walked away? they would just do their thing and never realize they are throwing away their fans outside of losing viwers / money, complaints are necessary to give the talent feedback, Bae spent over 6 months with barely any homo interaction until her birthday where she escalated and is turning into Ollie, if you think I'm a fake fan why did I believe I her and was supportive of her until then? why can't I even try to tell her I liked better the way she did things before? if she wanted to replace her audience, it's disrespectful for the early fans, its not just a case of "just cancel your support" there are feelings hurt in that exchange.

>>28958567
I thought Ame puts her fans way up above too. But after seeing some clips of her talking about interacting to homos and now showing this much support and engagement with them.
She's basically saying, "fuck your feelings."

>>28958231
>>28958595
You can't call yourself a fan of Hololive in one breath and say you want to or approve of male collabs with the other. She's either a grifter, a traitor or a trojan horse from the start. I don't care how "sweet" she is if she's actively shitting on the culture.

>>28958711
Anon, all of this is entirely on you for having such twisted expectations for her, she didn't skew them.

>>28958784
no it's not if she did what I could tolerate for so long, she changed, just admit it.

>>28958727
Bro, I'll be honest with you and say I always held Ame in high regard even though I rarelly watched her and wasn't a member. I was glad she was there, appreciated her and enjoyed her streams from time to time. This shit she's pulled is so clashing with my previous beliefs about her it's genuinely blowing my mind. Like, I can't believe she's such a shit person. It really took me aback and I'm glad I have no emotions towards her, because after this only the most simpering of simps would still continue supporting her.

>>28958711
Were you this guy?

>>28958933
no, but I sent one similar.

>>28958933
Probably lmao, the bday timeframe lines up

>>28958732
You are the exact type of unicorn faggot I'm talking about.
The kind that I hate
This is like saying Sora herself or Fubuki, Polka, Suisei are whores for promoting the stars sometimes.
No, she "isn't" shitting on this culture you speak of, she has never tried to push collabs onto other girls nor has she collabed with someone like cannur.

>>28894725
>Some hololive fans are so weird man
You really, REALLY don't seem to understand how Japanese fans and antis work. Go watch the Perfect Blue.

>>28959080
>Anime is reality now
The state of cuckposters...

>>28959353
real life is worse

>>28959440
Proof? the inside of your ass.
If you want something really worse, look up KR fans.

>>28958291
Don't forget rat is Asian too.

>>28959057
Sora Fubuki etc are fine because they are Japanese.
You and your oshi will never be Japanese.

>>28959813
Nah mate, she's an Aussie.
bae made me slightly less racist

>>28959525
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stabbing_of_Mayu_Tomita
https://www.newsweek.com/stalker-finds-idol-reflection-pupils-1464373
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yukiko_Okada

idolfags are nuts

>Next AX offcollab arc
>almost every EN on both sides are on PST timezones
>holos go silent
>homos go silent
Fuck this shit, I have to get out before it even happens.

Female Vtubers who engage with men fall out of favor.
They should stop using Hololive's visibility to collaborate with men.
Hololive has reached the top of the Vtuber scene with only female.