/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>28848055
>Holoshit seething this hard
Cope

>>28848055
EOP abandoning her already?
Fotm faded easily huh

>She has a live translator on screen
Will we see this from other JP livers?

>>28848055
Imagine trying to a run an entertainment business in Japan with any slogan other than "Customers First"

the messiah muhammed (pbuh) himself could be playing stray and i still would not watch

>>28848225
Yeah, 90% of the chat is JP now.

>>28848055
Isn't she still doing Mikeneko too? If so this is just another revenue stream for her.
I'd be interested in seeing her youtube numbers though, I've read she wants to stream there too.

>>28848055
Oh wow, she's streaming Stray, I'm surprised anyone is watching at all.

>>28848055
her fault for streaming on twitch

>>28848347
I don't know how the Twitch Partnership program works, but I was under the impression from other streamers that you can't be a Partner on Twitch and stream on Youtube at the same time. I have no idea how Kson gets away with it.

>>28848055
Exzessive obsession is a sign of love anon

>>28848055
chat is actually usable now, this is a good thing

>>28848474
It depends on your contract. I think usually there's a twitch exclusivity clause, but a few creators are twitch partners and also stream on youtube, so apparently it's possible to negotiate it out.

What's the next step of your master plan

>>28848055
>twitch
I mean, I'll watch her if she's on youtube but not there, it's too inconvenient for me

i hate numberindos so much it's unreal

>>28848474
You just become a twitch affiliate instead of partner. A bit worse in terms of the cut you get from subs and ads, but I bet that either they don't care (they get loads of money anyways), or VShojo helps them get a better deal.

>>28848055
I want to fuck her so much...

>>28848678
I hate Twitch a lot even if she is my wife but I have to admit the trade off if you're EOP is a pretty good deal for seemingly reliable on-screen live subs
Still hate Twitch and I don't even have that cope because I don't fucking need them

>>28848055
Ogey now on your knees schizo someone shouldve broke you years ago.

>>28848055
Owakon already? That happened faster than I thought it might.

>>28848651
FAKE!! BOTS!!!! ITS BOTS!!!!!!

Who is this korean vtuber that has more views than her?

>>28848055
>Twitch
Of course, her old fanbase is on Youtube

>>28848055
What did Rushia use to get? I heard Rushia was never the ccv queen and only had the #1 SC spot due to very dedicated paypigs, but then again, she was part of the strongest generation, right? The hololive brand is a huge buff, so her getting less now is probably expected, not that 10k is bad.

>>28849905
She would intentionally only stream when nobody else was in order to get good ccv numbers. Not saying there's anything wrong with strategizing your stream schedule, but she did get good numbers in part due to that.

>>28849905
>What did Rushia use to get? I
low-mid teen thousands
her fortes like ASMR and cooking streams would usually break 20k but thats because of just how cute they were and everybody knew it

>>28848570
You can stream on both, just not at the same time. Not sure if it applies to affiliates though.

>>28848316
You mean america

>>28851593
Isn't vshitjo jp run by japs?

>>28851642
It is. The jp CEO is called Loutlot. Judging by his follows he's also a cunnyseur so JP is going to be much better than EN.

>>28849905
>Comparing yt numbers to twitch numbers

>>28851937
This isn't /#/, we're ignoring their cope here.

>>28848688
They get too cocky with kobo

>>28848791
Why is this child wearing a thong?

>>28851937
what's the difference?

>>28848055
MIGUEL GATO STATUS?

>>28852379
To attract a certain audience

Rsnt free

>>28852379
Why not?

ok

>>28848651
nice

>>28848651
>>28848802
>10K
KEK that's holoID numbers.

Delicious holotears

>>28852393
/#/ is convinced that youtube heavily supresses view numbers and twitch doesn't. They ignore that youtube started poaching lots of flesh streamers this year and most of their numbers stayed similar after they moved from twitch to youtube because it doesn't fit their narrative.

I thought she was unhireable, Holobros.

>>28852746
She's going to do her menhera things and cause trouble for Vshojo. It's only a matter of time.

>>28852452
That's it? You all can pretend this is okay, but the further she falls, the more she's going to seethe.

>>28852858
10K on twitch at 4am PST is insane numbers. Why don’t you go bother Kiara and her 2.5K viewers are prime NA hours

>>28852746
Vshojo will regret this. Question is how long it will take before she decides to attempt destroying their company for cock.

>>28852947
You can keep wasting your time defending her. Everyone knows she's privately seething at these pathetic numbers.

>>28852947
That's implying that you can talk sense into Holofans.

>>28853016
She probably didn't expect full Rushia numbers with a completely new character and without the holobuff, she'd have to be retarde..... on second thought, maybe she did.

>>28852947
>kiara vs nu-rushia
it's like you're new to this

>>28852675
Except that's not true at all? Ludwig for example has significantly smaller numbers on youtube.

>>28852675
>/#/ is convinced that youtube heavily supresses view numbers and twitch doesn't.
No fucking shit lmao, you can see it yourself by going to a 0-1 view stream and using multiple accounts

>>28852675
YouTube has 100x the daily user base. They should naturally get more numbers. "Suppressing" lmao.

>>28853477
>YouTube has 100x the daily user base. They should naturally get more numbers
retard

>>28852971
> Kson exist
Never happen bros

>>28853364
There might be exceptions, but Lilypichu for example recently went from being a 7k twitch streamer to being a 7k youtube streamer.

>>28853395
>using multiple accounts
Okay, youtube probably filters duplicate IPs, that wouldn't surprise me at all. But that's a very minor impact in big streams.

>>28852675
why are you lying ? Ludwig for example got smaller number on youtube

>>28852947
10K for a Jap corpo on debut week is fucking nothing.
If Kiara or IDs fire up minecraft or holocure they can get more. It's over mikefag/vshojofag.

>>28853630
>youtube probably filters duplicate IPs
If only there was a way to change your IP anon...
You can also just see the viewernumber in the pre-stream being cut anywhere from 10% to over half once the stream start

If you're actually not baitposting people have done tons of experiments to try and find out wtf is going on, you can easily find them yourself
The last thing i saw was that it's both filtering ad-block viewers and "marked" accounts, what causes an account to be "marked" isn't known

>>28853395
YouTube cuts your view if you have an ad block.

>>28853775
>>28853364
I vaguely remember Ludwig having his normal 15-20k in a stream right after moving platform, was this just the initial hype after platform change and he's much smaller now?

>>28852675
You can outright test it yourself. Enter a livestream with a browser that isn't vanilla chrome without any ad/cookie suppressing extensions. Your view won't get counted.

>>28853477
holy retard

>>28853871
Many of /#/'s experiments are flawed and performed by people that want to see a certain outcome from the start.
The cold hard truth is Youtube would hurt itself with artificially lowered viewer numbers and a for-profit business wouldn't have this problem for long. This would have been fixed with priority long ago if this was a real thing and not just wishful thinking by /#/. I don't doubt that there are minor differences between Twitch's and Youtube's count, but some people are living in a dream world.

Homo en dwflection thread

>>28854126
I've been in streams where the vtuber has ran polls and gotten 2-3 times the listed viewer count(which was in the hundreds) in votes, small vtubers, not ones where bots would be voting either.

>>28854126
>he cold hard truth is Youtube would hurt itself with artificially lowered viewer numbers and a for-profit business wouldn't have this problem for long.
Any other company and i would fully agreed to you, occam's razor and all that but this is Google, the numbers conspiracy is actually more realistic with Google

>This would have been fixed with priority long ago if this was a real thing
They can't control their algorithm, it's not just ad-block viewers being filtered by also viewers that are deemed "suspicious" by their algorithm

God you numberfags are sickening. Stay in your containment. Stop numberfagging these millionaires.

>>28854225
This is weird, but doesn't mean the viewercount is broken. The poll counting system might be broken or working as intended but not count every vote as equal (For example do members count for more than 1 vote?). Also for longer running polls this wouldn't be weird because Pikamee once said her average viewer only stays for just over 10 minutes. That means a 5k viewer stream could get 10k poll answers in 10 minutes if everyone votes without either number being wrong (of course this would require everyone to vote, which is an unrealistic assumption).

>>28854330
>They can't control their algorithm
Aren't google software engineers supposed to be good?

oh no… anyways

>>28852947
Comparing EU guys with those crazy nipons that are esentially paypigs of her... Less funny... Was fun to see the podcast of xqc than her stream

>>28854571
Anonchama, these are the same people that made is so your PC would lag if you opened the emote screen...

>>28848055
Yea but cover doesn't take 30% anymore. I think she's gonna be just fine.

>>28848317
Even Muslims admit Jesus was the messiah, retard

>>28853912
Not that all, the changed made him built again amothrr community on youtube and you see like he recovered his audience now with 20k-30k and even more..

>>28852844
>She's going to do her menhera things and cause trouble for Vshojo
it's not a problem for vshojo because vshojo have talent freedom

>>28848055
Who cares anon, she's still cute af

>>28852675
Damn, /#/fags get mad when you tell them their delusions aren't real.

>>28853775
>Ludwig for example got smaller number on youtube
Elaborate. Playboard says he gets 25k average on youtube. He had 18k average in his last months on twitch according to twitchtracker.

>>28848055
Pathetic.

You faggots are unironically mentally ill. 10k makes her the biggest vtuber on Twitch. Without Cover stealing half of her income.

>>28848225
Especially doesn't help with her choice of streaming time 11 PM PST/2 AM EST to 2 AM PST/5AM EST range for starting streams? She may as well be saying 'USA archive only'

>>28848055
She was getting 8k-11k as an holo you retard, and that's without counting going into hidden for months, changing character and moving to fucking twitch.

>>28855216
There are korean vtubers getting 15k on twitch.
She is one of the biggest in the EN&JP sphere though. Mouse and Shoto can break 10k, Nyanners could do it too before Aethel.

>>28852675
Based for making numberfags seethe. They should stay in their hole.

>>28848321
Why are you lying so blatanly. I have her stream open right now and there's plenty of English messages.

Her Hololive numbers were around 10-12k. She's unironically going to make more money now without corp cut.

Oh nyo anyways

>>28855461
kek anon 10k ccv on twitch is like 5k ccv on youtube, with the cullng bullshit

>>28855676
I feel like that's a bad comparison because nobody cares about vods on twitch, not even twitch itself. They're actually awful.

>>28853364
Sykkuno gets more viewers on youtube than he did on twitch kek

>>28852432
yeah, me

>>28855771
the stream ended on midnight, nobody would have watched the vod yet

>>28855862
Time zones, but maybe that's a small effect, idk.

>>28855349
I checked her channel for a few minutes and it looked that way to me.
I'm looking at her chat right now and every 10 japanese comments there 3-4 english comments at most.

>>28855771
thats a bullshit excuse that isnt actually true. The real reason why twitch vods are ignored and their vids reuploaded on youtube is because twitch are cheap jews who delete every stream after about 2 months, to save storage money

>>28856213
I mean yeah that's the main reason, but twitch vods being garbage is true too. There's shit like the muted parts.

>>28855676
>VODcope

>>28855676
Twitch is more bot heavy than youtube for live shows. Not sure people realize that.

>>28854126
>The cold hard truth is Youtube would hurt itself with artificially lowered viewer numbers and a for-profit business wouldn't have this problem for long.
This isn't really true.
Are you aware that many VTubers have already said (and in some case, accidentally showed) that their personal viewer counts in their YT analytics page - which is only updated a day or two after the stream is over - showed higher numbers than their live viewers counter while the stream was going on? That should've been a good indication that YT undercounts viewers in their publicly displayed CCV counter.
YT sells the idea that their numbers are "genuine", so it's not a surprise that they prefer undercounting CCV than overcounting and including (too many) bots. As long as the final number (after the stream is processed, as displayed in the streamers' personal YT analytics page) is correct, I don't think they have any issue with it. Most business matters will be based on those analytics data, not some 3rd party sites tracking live viewership. The issue with this is that >we don't have access to that data, but it's not like YT cares about some virtual CCV horserace on 4ch.
>Many of /#/'s experiments are flawed and performed by people that want to see a certain outcome from the start.
And I'm not sure how
>sit in a private, empty stream for 30'
>stream's live CCV count remains at 0
can be flawed? Some of /#/'s experiments indeed require certain amount of assumptions, but the experiment I just mentioned isn't one of those - so at least we know there are viewers who aren't counted for some reasons. Heck, another case in point: YT themselves said that they only count a view on multi-tab viewing for the focused tab, while Twitch counts it for all of them.

>>28848317
In Islam, Muhammad is not the Messiah (al-Masih), Jesus (Isa) is.

>>28848055
They didnt go full in with this idea. Should have debuted five people, create a bit of the Hololive box effect, have some creative streams lined up for the first weeks

>>28848055
I mean, she's blatantly trying to leech off her past popularity and old memes. Same with KSon.
When people will realize that Kson and MikeNeko have nothing to show on their own and their shit worked only because it worked as foil to sterilized, cold, distant but high-quality Hololive stuff?
These girls would be 2view nobodies if not their past involvement with Hololive.

>>28855777
https://twitchtracker.com/sykkuno/statistics
Twitch 2022 average
>21.4k

https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCRAEUAmW9kletIzOxhpLRFw
YT average
>15,1k
kek

CUM

>The numbers thread is talking about streams
Matsuri 3D, Gwelu 3D, Pekora scratch cards
>number baiters go to the catalog
tale old as time

>>28854126

>>28849670
That's the most watched vtuber on the platform. Are you new to vtubers?

>>28858962
WHO?

>>28852494
Only Kobo and when she is having good ccv

>>28858106
shitpost knowledge expanded

>>28858360
>person has personality
>changes clothes
>personality doesn't change
>(You) OMG leech!!!
??????????

>>28858106
>prophet comes after the messiah
Nice timing.

>>28858106
Muhammad is just an arabic title meaning "praised one", Jesus is multiple times referred to as Muhammad in the quran

>>28852438
It’s actually sort of crazy how high in the rankings senzawa still is despite being a dead channel for years now.