/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>28819097
Is there an announcement on Twitter?
Also, I think the panels are for Myth, Council and HoloID since they're all guests there.

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>69,696: Towa (Hololive)
>52,071: Marine (Hololive)
>44,731: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>44,349: Shiina (Nijisanji)
>41,104: Mumei (Hololive)
>37,771: Miko (Hololive)
>37,306: Calli (Hololive)
>23,779: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>23,037: Subaru (Hololive)
>20,255: Ina (Hololive)
>17,837: Lize (Nijisanji)
>17,717: Botan (Hololive)
>17,633: Flare (Hololive)
>17,360: Hal (Neo Porte)
>14,893: Nui (Nijisanji)
>14,798: Nose (VSPO)
>12,655: Shu (Nijisanji)
>11,776: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>10,998: Luca (Nijisanji)
>10,975: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>10,588: Koyori (Hololive)
>10,416: Leos (Nijisanji)

>>28819174
>>28819204
Rurudo art?

>>28819074
>Keeps repeating that it's fact despite the numbers proving otherwise
The numbers literally disprove your stupid saturation theory.
Please show me which Nijis and Holos have been crippled from new debuts to the point that the debut's whole audience is from another vtuber.
You can't, even flop gens aren't 3views.

>>28819270
>JULY 2022 GOLDS
1) Miko (Hololive) - 43,044 - HoloCure
2) Subaru (Hololive) - 66,433 - Birthday stream
3) AZKi (Hololive) - 74,504 - 3D birthday live
4) Tsukasa (Indie) - 41,447 - Streamer league mahjong
5) Mayuzumi (Nijisanji) - 57,985 - Meschers off-collab
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - Drinking talk w/Laplus
7) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - DQ11 casino w/Noel
8) Salome (Nijisanji) - 37,023 - Unpacking
9) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 164,013 - Koshien 2022 draft
10) Shion (Hololive) - 48,313 - 1 million subs celebration totsumachi
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 61,665 - Clubhouse 51 totsu
12) Shiina (Nijisanji) - 49,387 - Niji Koshien practice
13) Pekora (Hololive) - 70,402 - Uno collab w/Marine, Botan & Polka
14) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 54,165 - Niji Koshien practice
15) Natsume (Nijisanji) - 48,192 - 3D debut
16) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 70,166 - Niji Koshien practice
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 142,833 - 3rd anniversary 3D live
18) Mel (Hololive) - 67,290 - 4th anniversary 3D live
19) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 62,890 - Niji Koshien practice
20) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 80,534 - Niji Koshien practice
21) Towa (Hololive) - 69,696 - New outfit reveal

>PER COMPANY
11x: Hololive
9x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie

>PER STREAMER
5x: Pekora
2x: Ibrahim, Kuzuha
1x: AZKi, Mayuzumi, Mel, Miko, Natsume, Nijisanji, Salome, Shiina, Shion, Subaru, Towa, Tsukasa

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
129x: Hololive
62x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
3x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
23x: Pekora
16x: Aqua, Salome
14x: Kuzuha
13x: Miko
9x: Subaru
6x: Hal
5x: Kanata, Marine
4x: Gura, Hololive, Mio, Suisei, Toya
3x: Chloe, Choco, Flare, Nijisanji, Okayu, Towa
2x: Ange, Fuwa, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Polka
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, AZKi, Botan, Chronoir, Debi, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Laplus, Masaru, Mayuzumi, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Noel, Roboco, Rushia, Sango, Shiina, Shion, Sora, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

>>28819287
>even flop gens aren't 3views
Finana...

>>28819287
Ridonculous...

>>28819256
Can we get some proof of this shit?

>>28819383
Voltaction....

>>28819174
Final /news/ roundup for 21-07-2022
>>28784506

Recent Clip Numbers
>>28764408
>>28764483
>>28764945
>>28765038

>>28819256
just show the reveal trailer, that's all Im asking for. Also all should be flat with big butts

>>28819345
Reimu

>>28819287
>It's all new people though
There is NO room for expansion anymore in the Vtuber market. If you can't agree to this basic premise, you are an idiot

>>28819383
>>28819418
Neither are 3views.

As funny as it would be to see Gura overlap Tempus on their debut date, I don't see any possible way that management would just cross their arms and let it happen, they'd probably tell Gura to stream earlier or later than usual (her last members stream ended really late so it's not out of the question)

>>28819390
Anon, CR Expo website has the full guest list from Hololive. It seems they're inviting all of HoloEN and some ID members
>https://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2022/07/18-1/massive-hololive-guest-lineup-revealed-for-crunchyroll-expo-2022

Pippa is inclining!

>>28819174
Iluna debut waiting rooms
>>28714465
Tempus debut dates
>>28714602

Council 30 days true average
>>28552826 :: Fauna
>>28553802 :: Mumei
>>28554518 :: Kronii
>>28554951 :: Bae
>>28555400 ::Sana
>>28582197

>>28819513
It has been literally 1 week since their debut and one of them almost became a literal 3views

>>28819492
OMG 2M FR FR

>>28819390

>>28819554
glad Im not the only one using the third eye thing

>>28819274
yes

>>28819513
You don't even know what they are right? Be honest that you're just baiting and shitting up the thread

>>28819492
You're fucking retarded. How are you in a numbers thread when you understand nothing about numbers?

>>28819516
did holojp clear space for starsjp?

Praying for my oshi to stream tonight and gets gold. Praying that Mumei and Fauna continue to incline. Praying that Festival gets her highest numbers tonight. And that nijiEN continues to fail.

>>28819492
What about Salome's mystery tourists that had no overlap with anything?

>>28819516
The thought of Gura overlapping them seems more fun than the debuts itself. I hope she does it

>>28819513
>Neither are 3views.
the mere fact that you're arguing this about the "biggest vtuber company" is very telling. if they truly are huge, there shouldn't be a single 3view in the main branch.

>>28819650
Fuck you Watamage.

>>28819650
Be honest and you don't even know what their numbers are if you think they're 3views

I really want to see Pekora do another cooking stream just to see if she is getting more tourist viewers or something.

>>28819672
No? Why would they do it?

>>28819672
no

>>28819673
I'm praying for vox to get crabs.

Any news from that HoloMyth cafe?

>>28819516
it isn't a hololive event. just like how holojp streams over homojp events

>>28819747
There have been 3views in Niji since the dawn of time. It was a thing when they were the largest vtuber company in the world. What the fuck are you talking about, newfag?

>>28819672
Why would they? They have no omega over there

I want Nijisanji to reach 300 members so Nijishills won't have to scream so loud anymore.

>>28819839
lines were so long that people starved to death while waiting

>>28819809
>>28819822
>>28819866
so it would be retarded for any management interference for any en overlaps then

>>28819668
I should ask the same thing as you. Actually look at the fucking numbers, and stop making magical claims like 'the market hasn't reached saturation yet' when each new wave and pull less and less people and those people obviously aren't new.

HoloEN monthly vod views

NijiEN monthly vod views

>>28819174
LazuLight subs 24hrs
>Pomu: 13.5k
>Elira: 14.6k
>Finana: 13.4k

Obsydia subs 24hrs
>Rosemi 16k
>Petra 18k
>Selen 16k

Ethyria subs 24hrs
>Nina 13.7k
>Millie 13.7k
>Enna 12.8k
>Reimu 13.1k

Luxiem subs 24hrs
>Luca 10.7k
>Shu 10.4k
>Ike 11k
>Mysta 11.7k
>Vox 11.8k

Noctyx subs 24hrs
>Sonny 34.9k
>Uki 31.9k
>Alban 40.8k
>Fulgur 31.4k
>Yugo 33k

Iluna subs 24hrs
>Maria 54.3k
>Kyo 52k
>Aia 52.4k
>Aster 55.6k
>Scarle 57.9k
>Ren 56k

>>28819728
Everyone wish for her to do that to "own the homo" or some shit
Blue women asserting dominance over the homo

>>28819988
>>28820070

>>28819988
>Mori almost make up 40% of Myth vod views
M-my knees

>>28819969
>magical claims like 'the market hasn't reached saturation yet'
Ironic because it's the other way around. When Hologen7 comes out, you'll be proven wrong again.

>>28820154
It's over.

>>28820070
>>28819988
More members than HoloEN, more streams than HoloEN, yet only slightly larger VODs than HoloEN. What a waste of talent for NijiEN

>>28819988
Based, easy to catch up with Holo en
>>28820070
Who even catches up with these vods>>28820070

>>28820131
iLUNA still hasn't been culled at all right? Bodes well for EN3

Reminder that Uproar debuted to 10k viewers on the first day and 8k on the second day. Anything more than that for the Tempus will be a huge success, and Gura overlapping shouldn't affect it in getting more than that.

>>28820154
>>28820202
How?
Look at the number of streams.
They stream 3x more than the Holo girls

>>28820196
There won't be a hologen7 for at least a year, maybe 2, and it will be after half of the current Holos go into soft retirement and stop streaming. The viewers will not increase, the new gens will just take the same viewers as before.

>>28820141
Why are you like this, StarsEN aren't even harming anyone? They're a bunch of boys trying to be boys.

>>28820286
meds

>>28820208
is more that holoEN didnt stream a lot on june except for gura, many travels and such.
which now isnt streaming a lot on july

>>28820262
gura's viewer is not their market

>>28820262
If they can get Luxiem numbers (20k), it would be incredibly good. But debut numbers aside, I'm more worried about their retention. Uproar are all 3views now with 2 being closer to 2view than 4view.,

>>28820196
By the time Ge7 comes out most of the HoloJP pillars will be gone. Viewerbase will be way smaller

>>28820354
Maybe we were too hard on NijiEN. They're what EN vtubers should be like.

>>28820429
Those are holostars jp numebrs tough

>>28820187
>VOD views
>Anon forgets about her music views

>>28820286
You're fucking retarded

>>28820262
Ame alreday said Tempus targeting new market audience, either it brotuber or fujo bait both of it is new market for holoEN

>>28819988
Why is Inas VoD game so bad?

>>28819672
lol no, i remember even marine and pekora with direct overlaps to the uproar debuts, they're just different branches
>>28819918
yea but that won't stop people from shitting on gura for overlapping
well, they'd shit on her for not streaming to give them free space too anyway

EN 3 will not save HoloEN. even if they're better than Council. the "aura" is gone. Council's failure to live up to Myth (and changes in the wider vtuber landscape) have shattered the impression of quality the latter built and decreased the hype.

>>28820284
Almost 4 times as many stream hours

>>28820070
Are these including shorts?

>>28819672
i hope all branch overlap them, they must build their own box before integrate

>>28820561
Pathetic 4x

>>28820560
they don't need saving though

>>28820354
Gura stream only 13(public stream) times in june.

>>28819988
This data would be nice with a version that splits out to only videos longer than 10 minutes.

>>28820615
everything

>>28819988
>>28820070
Despite having more subs, NijiEN still beats HoloEN in total VOD views.
Oof. Is it too late to scrap the whole branch?

>>28820560
en 3 can be success if they introduces a personality that is not in myth and council,

>>28820477
no i meant gura.
most are retungin to stream already

>>28820527
well ina didnt stream on june

>>28820560
Council is inclining hard and we still have retards making these kinds of posts

>>28820325
omega didn't help with his
>your voice has been heard
shit when people already complain about the lack of support holoEN gets

>>28820560
You keep telling that to yourself, but council members like Mumei, Kronii, Sana, Fauna and IRyS mog Luxiem

>>28820527
>Doesn't stream crazy amount like Kiara or Ame
>Doesn't have multiple music vods like Mori
>Gura

Which of you faggots is a member of Roberu

>>28819918
https://youtu.be/qEPw2vxjTaw?t=16350

>>28820527
She has her regular 10k viewers and most others hink she's too boring to watch, because she is.

>>28820657
i tought it was 16 whichis usually the nromal numebr without including memebers

>>28820733
And -1 member

>>28820262
Chumbuds only watch Gura so Gura streaming won't affect their numbers.

>>28820561
holo blondes having a better average than niji top 32 make me kek

>>28819988
>>28820070
Do we have a monthly vod ranking with all branches in one chart? Just interested in seeing how people rank.

>>28820560
Buddy, you using outdated bait.
Council is no longer a joke anymore, they not a super hitter but you can't call them really call them failure.

*FINAL GAIJIN TALLY OF THE DAY*
>41,318: Mumei (Hololive)
>37,252: Mori (Hololive)
>20,307: Ina (Hololive)
>12,655: Shu (Nijisanji)
>10,999: Luca (Nijisanji)
>9,432: Amelia (Hololive)
>8,832: Vox (Nijisanji)
>6,416: Moona (Hololive)
>6,309: Shu (Nijisanji)
>5,265: Uki (Nijisanji)

>GAIJIN GOLD SO FAR FOR JULY
1. Mumei (Hololive) - 18,378 (I'm on Observation Duty 5 w/Fauna)
2. Ina (Hololive) - 22,039 (Return Stream)
3. Luca (Nijisanji) - 26,367 (600k sub celebration unarchived karaoke)
4. Mumei (Hololive) - 22,338 (HoloCure: Save the Fans)
5. Kobo (Hololive) – 22,212 (Getting Over It)
6. Gura (Hololive) - 32,780 (HoloCure: Save the Fans)
7. Kiara (Hololive) - 36,856 (3D Birthday concert)
8. Gura (Hololive) - 19,070 (I am Fish)
9. Kobo (Hololive) – 12,130 (Rock Simulator)
10. Lily (Cloud Horizon) – 21,623 (Graduation ceremony)
11. IRyS (Hololive) - 23,882 (1st Anniversary Celebration)
12. Sana (Hololive) – 22,793 (Graduation announcement)
13. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 14,315 (Reviewing viewer dishes)
14. Mysta (Nijisanji) – 21,552 (Genshin Impact gacha)
15. Kobo (Hololive) – 14,834 (Golf It! w/Mori)
16. Kronii (Hololive) – 16,001 (Dark Deception)
17. Vox (Nijisanji) - 13,352 (RP ASMR)
18. Selen (Nijisanji) - 18,215 (Obsydia 1 year anniversary celebration)
19. Mumei (Hololive) - 25,551 (Anatomy review w/Calli and Sana)
20. Vox (Nijisanji) - 13,804 (The Sims 4 making Iluna House)
21. Mumei (Hololive) - 41,318 (Council & IRyS 3D debut)

>GOLD PER COMPANY
Hololive - 14
Nijisanji – 6
Others - 1

>GOLD PER STREAMER
4x: Mumei
3x: Kobo
2x: Gura, Mysta, Vox
1x: Ina, Luca, Kiara, Lily, IRyS, Sana, Kronii, Selen

>SILVER PER COMPANY
Hololive - 15
Nijsanji - 6
Others - 0

>SILVER PER STREAMER
5x: Kobo
3x: Gura
2x: Vox, Luca, Mori
1x: Uki, Baelz, Mysta, Mumei, Amelia, IRyS, Kiara

>BRONZE PER COMPANY
Hololive - 17
Nijsanji - 4
Others – 0

>BRONZE PER STREAMER
4x: Ina
3x: Kobo, Mumei
2x: Amelia
1x: Shu, Kiara, Luca, Kronii, Fauna, Mori, Moona, Petra, Uki

>MEDAL COUNT
Mumei: 8 (4-1-3)
Kobo: 11 (3-5-3)
Gura: 5 (2-3-0)
Vox: 4 (2-2-0)
Mysta: 3 (2-1-0)
Luca: 4 (1-2-1)
IRyS: 2 (1-1-0)
Kiara: 3 (1-1-1)
Ina: 5 (1-0-4)
Kronii: 2 (1-0-1)
Lily: 1 (1-0-0)
Sana: 1 (1-0-0)
Selen: 1 (1-0-0)
Mori: 3 (0-2-1)
Amelia: 3 (0-1-2)
Uki: 2 (0-1-1)
Baelz: 1 (0-1-0)
Shu: 1 (0-0-1)
Fauna: 1 (0-0-1)
Moona: 1 (0-0-1)
Petra: 1 (0-0-1)

>>28820880
will be skewed since it will benefit most music holos or the ones that put shorts.

Evening Robert is about to hand down the torch to EN, their girls will be Magged

>>28820560
Remove the bots and even Bae moggs luxiem. With the bots, they still get logged by the others and IRyS

>>28819988
>myth cant break 40m now
myth is reclining

>>28820949
kek

>>28820949
No one among the ENs is spared.

>>28820793
she wasn't going to stream anyway and she doesn't stream in that timeslot, not sure what your point here is

If NijiEN becomes the top of the industry, who will the contrarians turn to support next? Phase Connect or Hololive?

>>28819988
>>28820070
really needs number of stream as well

>>28820768
all me BTW

>>28821112
that would be nearly all of their fans... so they wouldn't be top for long

>>28820966
No shit

>>28821047
The EOPs and chinks will convert to Nousagis as well, like Salome's tourists did, trust the plan!

Just heard from /NijiEN/ that NijiEN is going to get cafe in Korea after HoloMyth.

>>28821279
Pekora can't stop winning

>niji indonesia first mover
>doa
>holo indonesia second
>thriving
>niji korea first mover
>doa
>holo ame news meme
>thriving
>niji india first mover
>doa
>holo english first mover
>reclining
>niji second
>thriving

so late mover always wins huh

>>28819988
>>28820070
>Kiara's Views in June: 3,771,361
>This is a higher number of VoD views than all of NijiEN except Pomu, Selen, Mysta, Vox, and Luca
>In a month she only streamed 9 times, twice being the Stanley Parable, another two times Zatsudans, another being a Superchat reading...
Jesus Christ, the weakest month in Kiara's entire time streaming and she's still better than 2/5ths of Luxium

Nijisanji was referenced in the last Oshi no ko chapter. Aka whos also kaguya sama author had collabs with chihiro, chigusa and others before.

>>28821436
I look forward to the pictures of people lining up then.

>>28821436
yea, it was in a rosemi t3 member stream

>>28820733
doesn't actually contradict what I said.

>the market is supersaturated now!
Stop believing in everything Akasaka said. Also maybe he meant JP market since Pekora is struggling to get to 2M for age, but as you can see on Gura's 4M there is literally untapped market because EN refused to fucking stream!

>>28821436
Wow, their 6 Korean fans will really enjoy that

>>28821112
Hololive

>>28821499
/#/ reps, anontachi.

LET THERE BE UNITY

>>28821555
You're retarded. No, there is no fucking EN market. Luxium failed to grab it, they took the CN audience. Iluna will fail to grab it, they will inevitably be forced to pander to CN if they want to get anywhere.

>>28821599
So do we start shitting on NijiEN now or later?

>the least subbed aussie is leaving and soon Bae will take her place
Why was Bae even higher than Fauna in the first place, she doesn't get nearly as much ccv as her.

>>28821530
Stop lying retard, it was on Kson's

>>28820560
Myth is nothing special. As someone who got into vtubing long after the initial hype, they're pretty boring for the most part compared to other corpos, indies, or even Council.
The only people who think there's any aura are Mythfags who were here from the start and still think they're the only game in town. Blaming Council for Myth's decline doesn't make any sense.

>>28821635
AIIIEEEEEE OFFPAKO INCOMING TO PROVE THEIR UNITY!!!

>>28821499
Aka is a hack and Kaguya deserved better. Also Ruby and Aqua being reincarnation has very little to do with the plot. Arima Kana will win the Aqua-bowl.

>>28821635
aaaaaaannnnnnnnndddddd
dropped

>>28821657
Bae had really good months but she had a lot of breaks after march and was neevr able to stream in one time slot.

>>28821499
Latechama...

>>28821490
Well she did have a kobo collab, a 3D live and a few off collab streams.
Not to mention she has a dozen songs now to farm VODs.
More of a quality over quantity month.

>>28821499
saturated market
>>28821625
shows only nijis
what does he mean?

>>28821555
EN normie market dont watch streams. They watch videos.

What are the chances that Nijisanji was debuting their new wave on this date anyway and Cover releasing HolostarEN didn't have anything to do with their sudden announcement?

>>28821635
>leeching already
So shameless

>>28821471
Where’s NijiENs Sololive?

>>28821635
after Vox, this might be the biggest whore nijiEN has

the rabbit better run faster if she wants to be the first jp to hit 2m

>>28821778
it means Anykara should stop debuting randoms every 2 weeks

>>28821499
This is the same manga that showed Peko and Coco in a panel, right? I remember seeing that.

>>28821635
Niji's already trying to leech

>>28821784
Where are the VoDs if you don't stream? Also that statement itself is false because nobody watches Bae due to her botched streaming schedule, not even VoDs.

>>28821657
Did Bae spike in subs really hard during Febaerary? A long-term unsustainable streaming schedule like that might have pushed her above her natural "curve".

>>28821778
It's his way of being unity because he already referenced Coco in Kaguya-sama before she graduated last year.

Are Nijifans scared of EN3 coming? Why are they sperging out so much?

>>28821703
Sorry Altare, but she's already been Magged

>>28821657
Had more inital hype around her before debut and did just well enough for Fauna to not catch her. And when the gap started closing, FeBAEury inclined her which helped to keep her spot. It was always gonna happen, it's just that time now

>>28821655
>start

>>28821635
Can't wait for the NijiEN signature hotel bed offcollab

https://twitter.com/airaniiofifteen/status/1550301883767476226
>iofi guerrilla birthday celebration after delaying it last week
why is she like this

>>28819988
kobo vod views

>>28821471
niji were first movers in en

>>28821776
>a 3D live
Wrong month. That happened THIS month

>>28821635
starsEN is unironically going to get boosted more by Niji than anyone in Hololive lmao

>>28821965
>Deleted
Accidental auto-tweet?

The market is not saturated at all. There are the twitch crowds that gone to the upwards of 80k. They can always target zoomers by playing fortnite and reacting to reddit/tiktok.

>>28821844
She's gonna hit 98 in a day or two, there is around 10 to 15days between each 10k when everything goes well. 96 was 28th, 97 was on the 14th of this month.

>>28821844
Don't forget that Marine still has the birthday buff+ 3rd anniversary buff

>>28821967
Why would you use social blade and not Holostars?

>>28822032
https://twitter.com/airaniiofifteen/status/1550302376497623040

>>28822006
I mean that's the best they can hope for, on the HoloEN side only Mori and Bae will reach out to them, and Ame will likely be the only one besides those two to promote them

>>28822046
welp, marine first to 2M then?

>>28822052
Holostats I mean

It would be funny if the NijiEN box integrate StarsEN into the mix. Basically, everyone shares the NijiEN box but HoloEN.

>>28821839
Decent likelihood given how close the auditions were announced. Unless you think Riku was deliberately delaying wave 6 to counter tempus.

>>28822006
I mean the highest JP Stars get more branching out to other corpos than they get from Holos so yeah

>>28822158
That's basically been confirmed from the actual timing.

>>28822140
I wonder if that would get Noor to finally clamp down on the inter-company twitter footsies

>>28821927
Fauna actually led Bae for months and it was Bae who caught up with her original song and stuff like FeBAEury.
The diff is Fauna has grown on people overtime whereas Bae has arguably alienated some of the fans she got because of bad games and lack of interesting content.

>>28822052
same data holostats doesnt track monthly only last 7 and 30 days

>>28822216
Noor might try to loosen up with StarsEN since she will do whatever it takes to wall-off HoloEN from the larger vtubing industry.

>>28822158
Imo it's far more likely that they delayed a day or 2 because of the sudden Tempus drop.
As fun as it is for us to imagine snuffing out your competition in the crib, it's bad for business and you're just hurting yourself by going head to head with another debut. NijiEN knows they're going to win in debut numbers anyways.

Roberu almost at 2k talking about StarsEN.

>>28822046
>>28822115
Pekora also have AniMelo opening act gig coming, it will be interesting to see which one goes first.

>>28822249
>Fauna actually led Bae for months and it was Bae who caught up with her
Really? Maybe I'm misremembering but I was pretty sure Fauna never had more subs than Bae at any point

>>28822249

>Roberu talking about Tempus
>"Senpai passing the torch to his kouhais, that's cool"
>Any niji talking about iLuna
>"LEEEEECH FUCKING LEEEEECH STOP LEEECHING"
nice double standards

>>28822006
Seeing as I think more NijiENs and indies have interacted with them than HoloENs, it's likely.
We already know an rpr collab is coming and it'll segway into NijiEN.

>>28822484
roberto is 2K

>>28822698
Nijis are bad, there is no good niji and there is nothing they can do that isn't evil.

>>28822688
My bad, it wasn't due to her original song then, but Fauna did lead Bae for months.

>>28822698
are you the one trying to compare haachamas asmr to vox?

gookbros...

>>28822484
It's the power of Magni

>>28822861
is magni the EN toya?

>>28819988
June was HoloEN's worst month since before Council's Debut huh

>>28822774
You sure anon? https://youtu.be/5MY6mxJfQsc Kuzuha and Honma are a safe bunch.

>>28822950
He'll need to be if he wants to escape 3view hell. Toya is unironically what be should aim for considering the dude has been making fun of his chin for years.

So if HoloEN3 and NijiEN7 debt together, will NijiEN7 have the upper hand?

>>28822843
did this nigga order the entire HoloMyth menu? holy shit

>>28822843
Is this someone buying one of everything on the menu? Not too unreasonable as long as you wrangle a friend or two into going with you

>>28822950
>The head isn't a monster effect
takahashi must be writhing on his grave

>>28822843
>257ish USD
not that bad honestly for everything on the menu

>Roberu at 2k and inclining
Holy boost
Yeah, these debuts will be big. No doubts anymore

>>28823037
Of course not lol, NijiEN7 will at best incline the branch by 5k ccv overall without leeching, EN3 will boost the entire HoloEN branch by as much as Council did at least, there won't even be a competition anymore, Hololive will just win in every metric for another year at least

>>28823225
NijiEN6 is going viral almost every single day, what kind of proof do you have to say HoloEN3 can match that?

>>28823326
>viral
>twitter topics

If Iluna brings 1k viewers each to the box, that would be a huge incline for nijiEN. Finana finally will have a 6k floor.

>>28823194
We'll just have to ask Kaela Risu or Moona to overlap them.

>>28823326
Where are NijiEN going viral besides their boosted Twitter topic? Like, big reddit posts or youtube videos or something?

>>28823355
That's not even what the box means, newfag.

>>28823355
>Finana finally will have a 6k floor.

>>28823359
Risu overlap anyone but stars

>>28823389
Reddit is just as irrelevant as /here/ the only place that matters is Twitter. Iluna have more subs than Tempus flops lol, they're way bigger than Hololive

>>28823326
anyone want to bring the Mika revival number again?

>>28823454
ok Troon

>>28823454
Are you the same guy that was posting about Nazuna a week ago?
Don't you get tired of this shit?

https://magnidezmond.carrd.co/

>>28821657
Why is there someone who asks this every single day?

>>28820262
uproar itself wasn't really a success, so getting only slightly better numbers than them is not good. They need to get at least 20k on the first day and 18k on the 2nd.

Winning son 2.5k on his StarsEN review. If I could buy calls on the StarsEN boys, I would. I don't think they're going to change the world but I think they're going to overperform expectations.

>>28823454
LMAO, someone post the ranunculus edit.

>>28823575
probably the same guy
everytime i see a post with a holostats image i know its about fauna/bae subs

>>28823560
As long as he gets (You)s, and /#/ is more incapable of ignoring bait than any other general on the board

>>28823355
I think THIS >>28808282 might actually happen judging from how strong the holoEN algorithm is.

>>28823454
>irrelevant as /here/
>no 7

>not even 3k for roberu StarsEN
Yeah these are gonna be 10k debuts tops.

>>28823679
>Reddit above Twitter, showing Reddit Engagement matters more than Twitter Engagement
AIEEEEEEEEEE

>>28822216
>>28822431
Noor isn't a manager, she's content manager and only responsible for social media and the like. She's not at all involved in high management of NijiEN, that was a misconception of /nijien/ and its also on here

>>28823679
>Twice the number of visits as Twitter
Oh no no no nijisisters, our precious site is getting owned by m*le redditors...

>>28823679
>people using bing

>>28822688
STOP THE SEX

>>28821715
Ai will win the Aqua bowl after the timeleap arc

>>28823889

>>28822006
>>28822140
Holostars collab more with Nijisanji JP than hololive so that wouldn't be a surprise.
What remains is to see if StarsEN will be allowed
>>28822158
>>28822441
if they wanted to counter, those would debut in the same day, but they also know that if they put in the same day, holoen audience would compete. different day gives them advantage

>>28823889
oh no roberu got handed...

>>28823877
Default search engine of default browsers. The average NPC doesn't know how to change any of that, they just go with the flow

>>28823889
what are you doing roberto...

>>28823877
MORE THAN TWITTER TOO LOL

>>28823679
>kikebook
>3
kneel

>>28823454
>twitter where a vast majority of accounts are lurkers and/or bots.
Figures niji would dominate in a bot infested medium

>>28823679
I already knew about this statistic and yet it's still shocking. Twitter seriously punches above it's weight class when it comes to how important people treat it

mmm so far roberu's numbers are 'normal buffed'/ I don't think they're gonna be doing much better guys. I will make sure to smack down everyone who claimed there was an audience when that happens.

>>28823679
good thing the world is more than US right?
Brazil, Japan and many countries would make twitter higher

>>28824018
Kobokerz i kneeel

>>28824018
that explains Kobo's numbers

>>28824040
Twitter was boosted so hard in perceived importance when a sitting president used it as his main form of communication with the public for 4 years. And also cause of Elon Musk. Remove those two from the history of Twitter and it's a very different picture.

>Nijis, Mori, Bae, and Ollie shilling them
Tempus will be 15k debut tops

>>28824059
Yeah won't be expecting big numbers for debut. Higher than Uproar for sure but only 1k~ increase from his normal streams doesn't spark much confidence.

>>28824040
Twitter is filled with bots, shills, etc.

>>28824164
10-20k seems like a safe bet

>>28824077
This, internationally Twitter still has the edge, but it's still close

I'm gonna be annoyed if Iluna has crazy high debut numbers (40-60k) but every one of them is a sub 3k shitter but Tempus has low debuts (10-20k) and and still does the same in ccv.

>>28824217
boosted by nips for west / en market reddit > twitter

15 minutes to go, more people waiting for kronii than bae.

well at least when they fail, I can push to any homo screecher to watch them first instead of collab begging.

>numberfagging website visits
you guys ogey?

>>28824255
tempus will be 1-2k max ccv
illuna could be 3-4k

>>28824335
well yeah bae is late to holocure.

If Tempus is 3view I'm literally gonna cry.

>>28824352
Dumbass, they literally can't fail if they do better than all of Holostars besides themselves.

>>28824368
/numbers/ desperate for relevance despite being the laughing stock of the board everytime they leave containment

>>28824282
Bros...

>>28824352
getting 1k average would make them already the best holostar which is a lwo bar but a success noetheless

>>28824522
>the laughing stock of the board
clearly you didn't visit the nijien and vshoujo thread

>>28824552
Guernseychads, we cant stop winning

>>28824335
Bae should've waited until the update for maximum hype, on a day with no overlaps
The game's interest is super dead right now

>>28824217
the fuck is yandex

>>28824335
When has Bae ever had higher ccv than Kronii?

>>28824643
should have just streamed it later
now she is voerlapping wtih mumei kroni and ame still streaming
ALSO FOR FUCK SAKE IF GURA ISNT STREAMING THEN JUST STREAM AT HER TIMESLOT.

I dunno why everytime anykara tried to cheat the algorithm by using ads and other things, it tend to fails while salome went to the moon by using holoX debut strats

>>28824552
Now you understand why we get served so much bat soup in here.

>>28824059
>watching a japanese holostar for reactions to EN

I just can't see them doing much worse than Noctyx and their debut buffs will be huge. NijiEN fan here btw (girls only)

so homostars will put up stream frames in the next 18 hours or so right they wouldnt just put it up like an hour before debut right?

>>28824643
Bae's got the Chinese blood in her so she's naturally a Hololive griefer.

>>28824335
fire emblem is kronii's long awaited "fav" game
bae is the last one to play holocure

>>28824726
Bae doesn't use her brain to get more numbers
Much to her detriment

Bae should have repeated her gimmick for her Vamprie Survivor stream but make it singing Hololive songs while she plays Holocure.

I feel like Tempus fans are the most fun bunch in here. They're doing their own thing while people love to punch down. Won me over with the number of memes they produce.

>>28824726
Nobody can plan whether to stream on Gura's slot or not because nobody knows if she will or not until like 2-3 hours beforehand including Gura

>>28824891
also gura's slot is like seven in the morning for her so that's not really a workable strategy

Enter chinman

>>28824552
>he thought the zhang shills and astroturfing was a meme
Anon where have you been

>>28824956
bae has done FAR earlier chat streams

>>28824783
Noctyx seems to have 3k median at best in general (outside Yugo) and the highest one this month is at 5k (Uki).. these numbers for Stars would be fucking incredible. I will play safe and say that all of them will be at the 1-2k median at best

>mumei 689k
700k for birthday?

>>28825028
sure but waking up just to see if Gura is streaming, then setting up guerilla streams if she isn't isn't really a viable schedule.
Also aren't all those scheduled in advance?

>>28823017
And they both bow down to China. Not based at all.

>>28825019
Do newfags really? They have been here since Taiwan arc.

>>28825173
>he thinks the majority is directed at this board
roru roru rumao
There's probably a few on here though, I swear I've read posts on /#/ before that read exactly like wumao word vomit.

>>28823152
GO SON GO

Speaking of Gura, her member stream is up to 20k views now. Granted, we don’t exactly know just how member streams process views after stream but from what we’re aware of:
>Member stream peaked at 3.5k ccv
>Typically sat around 3k
>Vod ended with 10k views
>Had 13k views hours later

Now, repeat views are obviously a thing but I’m doubting there were very many at all given the ccv. So it’s interesting to see that within 18 or so hours she gained 7k views on it. A good signal that there’s quite a lot of silent members chilling around for her in particular

Day 3 of SN sales on ITunes. Still holding strong in Japan

>>28824552
>mobile at 64.47%
Mobilechads stay winning

>>28825452
Looks like the concert boosted her in JP as expected. Top 3 there now.

>>28825452

is Fire Emblems numberpoison?

>>28825747
YES

>>28825747
Yes, and it's Musou so it's even more poisonous than usual

>>28824552
> China 99% mobile users
> Nijisanji viewers are phone posters
No wonder their meme games are so shitty that they need to copy Hololive meme.

https://twitter.com/hololivepro_EN/status/1550315740833943553
Tempus debut frames are up

>>28825434
>a lot of silent members
that goes for everyone

>>28824552
what site is that? Guernsey only has 60K people

>>28820886
>>28821693
I meant more from a marketing perspective. the HoloEN brand's decline, not Myth's decline.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-8u6VPH92k

>>28825722
What did she peak at in the US? 2nd?

>>28824040
Twitter has basically become the social network for the powerful and influential. Why do you think they all threw a tantrum when it seemed like Musk would screw with their playground?

>>28819988
>>28820070
These includes music, right?
Since I feel like that would give Mori too much of an advantage over ... Well, everyone else

Nice overlap there holoEN

>>28826344
i cant belive fucking ame is still streaming that shit.

>>28825434
Who fucking repeat views an RP VoD within 24 hours of its release?

>>28826288
#2 yes
>>28826293
Views is views

Why is it that any time ENs stream, they always stream on top of each other? It's not JP overlap hell, but they never avoid overlaps at all

>>28826344
holy overlap

>>28826264
Why the fuck is he using the twitch font and color? I had to do a double take to make sure they weren't debuting on fucking twitch lmao

>>28826293
It unfairly biases Luxium too, seeing as their music is botted

>>28826293
Nijis have songs as well anon.

>>28826344
And Elira's audience is not affected. It seems like NijiEN has built a solid box that doesn't care for HoloEN.

>>28824726
Bae should take Gura's timeslot and deal with the occasional overlap

>>28826767
isn't that like 7am her time?

>>28826264
Waiting rooms right now:
>Noir: 60 viewers
>Axel: 93 viewers
>Regis: 97 viewers
>MAGNI: 150 VIEWERS
kek

HoloEn management thinks overlaps are good.

>>28826924
half of those 150 are from here kek

The Mori concert recording is only popping off in YT and twitter with good numbers, even though she said to upload it in tiktok too Kek, Holofans really hate any chink blood huh?

>>28823679
>FB at 3rd
Fucking how? I though only us SEAfag use that shit nowadays

>holoEN never streams
>but when they do it's a four stream overlap
Are you fucking kidding me.

>>28824688
russian search engine
their reverse image search is better than google's reverse image search

https://twitter.com/hololivepro_EN/status/1550315740833943553
guess it's time

>>28824726
>bae schedules stream
>kronii schedules one at the same time and day, half a day later
>mumei starts a guerilla stream at the same time

they hate bae

>>28823679
>Twitter less than fucking Bing
M$chads WW@

>>28826996
Maybe when EN gets a few more gens but right now it's the same fans watching with occasional tourist so if they actually thought that, then they're more retarded than I thought.

>>28826767
Despite what anons think, Bae doesn't really stream that much. And she splits between two slots. And normally Gura's stream time isn't in the guttter (if you're not a greynigger you'll know none of this is le lazyness or le graduation shit this month) every month. So she'd end up significantly overlapped. But then again, she already does, so really just pick a timeslot that's less fucked and stick with it.

>>28826924
Magni 192 viewers in the waiting room right now, more than blue + orange boy combined

>>28826924
The meme man magni is actually gonna have a 20k debut I feel it

>>28826996
HoloEN management has been time and time again shown to have nothing to do with stream schedules, for better or worse.

>>28827369
Calm down, anon. 12k tops.

>>28827217
I'll give them the doubt and attempt to come up with a rational explanation for this
>When you have two overlapping streams, you force the potential shared audience to choose between those streams reducing the peak ccv without really damaging the total viewership
>Theoretically, this makes the process by which any individual streamer forms dedicated fanbases happen faster, and strengthens the holobox by making it easier for the members to combine their audience through collabs

>>28827081
hate tiktok
hate zhangs

luv me youtube
luv me twitter

>>28827455
NO ONE
IS PLANNING
ANY OF THIS

So with NijiEN fantastic planning, can they beat HoloEN this year?

>>28827369
Not with Gura overlapping them lmao. Based shark killing the homos in their crib.

Anycolour should bring andrew tate in......

>>28827596
fucking kek

topkek

If Magni settles as a 1k streamer that should still be an upgrade for him. He was averaging ~260 viewers. Had good VOD views though

People in Magni's waiting room didn't even bother to make themselves less obvious kek

>>28827693
If Gura overlaps Tempus for more than 15 minutes I'm becoming a shark anti

>>28827763

>>28827693
Chumbies weren't going to watch them anyways

>>28827093
boomers

Jesus christ this gameis boring did it even sell well?
i mean the Fire emblem one.

>>28827831
Gura always randomly brings up tourists, they could watch.

>>28827882
Fujos will buy anything with hot guys in it

>>28827765
Ohnonono

What's this hatred for Tempus when most of them are just having fun?

Gura shouldn't just stream for members. The public deserves to see her regularly too.

>>28827765
>Noir Vesper Ch. HOLOSTARS-EN GANBARIMASU
>Regis Altare Ch. HOLOSTARS-EN you guys are gonna LOVE vesper, i know for sure, he's so great
>Magni Dezmond Ch. HOLOSTARS-EN Good luck Vespy
the one with the lowest people in his prechat is getting savior fagged by his guild mates

>>28827962
You can say this about 99% of vtubers

Oh, I actually got them in my recommend

>>28827765
MAGNATION WE RIDE

>>28828043
Have you told your parents yet?

>>28827995
pay up poorfag

>>28828009
they are such bros...

What the hell is the Bae FPS
Will she ever not debuff herself? Goddamn Council Kiara

>>28827954
Based, driving away all women.

>>28828043
salome killer

>>28828065
WE RIDEEEEEE

>>28828009
>only 1 tweet a day
he brewing something here

>>28828101
haven't seen them in like 10 years after moving with your mom

>>28827831
I will watch them if Gura is not streaming

>>28826996
Management, both JP and EN, never has anything to do with scheduling, unless it is something on the official channel.

>>28828114
I don't have a Youtube account out of principle. So far youtube recommendations work fine while I am not logged in. My front page is filled with things I wanna watch any way.

>>28828224
I hope it's his RP and he's actually good at it and he's not just some depressed boring douchebag like Kronii.

>>28827765
my knees magposters....

>>28828318
Yeah but they aren’t blind, are they? Can they not see the problem here?

>>28827765

>>28828467
THE MAGGENING IS INEVITABLE

>>28827110
case closed??

>>28828467

>>28828318
I know IRyS discussed with her manager about what time slot would be good for her but in the end it's up to the streamer

>>28828403
They could only say "hey you are overlapping too much, please spread your schedule" which in the end is up to the girls themselves. If they forced the girls to spread their schedule, you will hear complaints here and there.

its fucking leaking
NOOOOO

>>28828595
OH NO NO NO SECRET CLUB BROS DONT LOOK

uh oh holobros...the recline is real

>>28828595
How the fuck did this spread to the talents themselves? They're not.../here/, are they?

>>28828715
magposters have been spamming magnis chat for the last 30 minutes or so

>>28828552
yeah, but this time is real

THE MAGGENING CANNOT BE CONTAINED

Obari?????

>>28827765
whats the prediction?

Are wave6 waiting rooms up?

>Holostars EN will be 1-2k shitters forever and be forgotten
It was nice while it lasted, anons. But let's be real here, the Holostars brand will never be a premiere brand that commands numbers.

>>28828715
twitter, a lot of memes

>>28828820
we wont have proper estimates til maybe 2 hours before debut, maybe even closer than that.

>>28828708
How many times must we do this song and dance?

>>28828862
Yes

>>28828708

Unfortunate that we have "le mag" tards here because real talk, these tards are setting the poor guy up for failure by turning him into the vtuber equivalent of Morbius.
Imagine being happy you're popular, people are flooding your room etc, that this will mean you have success as a streamer. And then...they don't. Because you were a I'M GONNA MORB joke to them.

>>28829038

>>28828917
Uki is even a collab stream. Kind of fucking absurd to think about actually, NijiEN streams 4 times as much and buffs those streams my making half of them single PoV mega collabs with 10+ people, but ends up still losing most days and only barely edges out in total Views when HoloEN is on a weak month

honestly think they are trying to create gura's a

>>28828862
their waiting rooms have been up since their channels opened basically

>>28829038
pump and dump like the 2views