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28766890 No.28766890 [Reply] [Original]

>BLATANTLY hiring dancers to play Myth
Am I the only one who fucking hates this skinwalker shit? When I want to see Ina, I want to see Ina, not some middle-aged dude wearing her fucking face.
Not only that but it's insanely disrespectful to all the JPs who practice their asses off to dance well. Makes all their work look irrelevant because here you are achieving the same thing without an ounce of effort because you got some hired dancer to wear your avatar. Fucking disgusting.

>> No.28766964

>>28766890
Take the Nijipill. All of their live shows are actually lives. No lipsync, no paid dancers, just pure fun.

>> No.28766983

perhaps ina should eat properly and get some fucking exercise instead of staying at her computer until she drops dead again

>> No.28767161

>>28766964
Thanks man, I will. Can you maybe spoonfeed a bro and give me a link to some of their NijiEN live concerts?

>> No.28767305

>>28766964
>>28767161
Samefag

>> No.28767392

Yes, I want to see more of grandma Ina's shitty dance moves.
She's just not fit for her job. She's no idol and she's not a good streamer. Worst hire on Myth. And yes, Calli is trash, but she's actually doing things.

>> No.28767470

its a calli concert dude, theres no disrespect there. They were prob busy w their own activities. Wait for a concert that is truly myth, all of the girls, for that stuff. Look, if someone feels that way, then they will express so politely and on their own terms. This is.... its kind of... sjw if you get mad for someone else. Gotta wait first before we jump any guns. The girls might have not been able to practice enough in time for this event, or maybe she didnt want to bother them?

You know, its actually nice that she put her friends there. She could have not bothered to do that. Its literally extra effort. I think its more of a good thing.

>> No.28767538

>>28767161
Look up "NJU", that should be the first result. It's just one of the many annual live shows, btw. You can find the others through reco chain.
>>28767305
Meds.

>> No.28767550

>>28766890
Wow, I kinda take back what I said about Kiara calling Ina out. Actually using stand ins is so shitty. JPs have lost a lot of respect for EN.

>> No.28767601

>>28766890
Think of them as dancers in cosplay.

>> No.28767632

>>28767470
Its also kind of sjw when you needlessly defend someone else who doesn't deserve or require it

>> No.28767635

Im the its a calli concert dude anon.... I think i was too harsh maybe. If you are an ina fan you would be disappointed. Maybe she was busy?

>> No.28767648

>>28766890
>Not only that but it's insanely disrespectful to all the JPs who practice their asses off to dance well.
Oh no no, he doesn't know

>> No.28767783

HoloEN is straight dog shit. Some of girls have play moments where the western meme culture pushes through and they're genuinely funny. Too bad it's a very rare occurrence.
Stop watching them, anons.

>> No.28767896

>>28767783
phone it in: the branch

>> No.28767900

>>28767538
okay, but any of NijiEN had their concerts yet? I don't speak nippon

>> No.28767954

>>28766890
I agree. I know it's not feasible right now due to JP covid autism, but I'd prefer they wait rather than put someone else in their body.

>> No.28767978

>>28767470
Well, no one really requires defending. Its freespeech still. I think I was too into it and emotional.

>> No.28768164

>>28767900
I don't know, i only watch JP. You can try to ask in Niji En threads though.

>> No.28768297

>>28767470
... Or they're just a bunch of lazy turds who refuse to take dance lessons. Or if they're having issues with *cough* bodyweight *cough*

>> No.28768381

All I'm going to say is this. Calliope's 'music' is some of the worst bullshit I've ever heard and I've had to hear my own music. This garbage is unlistenable and her vocal timbre is so wildly unpleasant that I get that same disgusted feeling people get when having to listen to their own voice back on a recording. It's truly awful.
I can't wait for her next album, 11 absolute dog turds on a disc.

>> No.28768480

>>28766890
were they "dancers" or just pre-made dance moves connected to the 3dmodel like loads of vtuber music videos are?

>> No.28768538
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>>28766890
leave no bait thread unmagged

>> No.28773192

Hiring a dancer to play Kiara is like hiring a singer to play Gura. If only there was an opportunity where all of them were together and around motion tracking equipment...

>> No.28773372

>>28767783
If you want western meme culture watch nijishitty

>> No.28773391

>>28766890
I know how you feel but it really can't be helped. Most people don't care, they just blindly consoom and people who speak out will get lynched

>> No.28773500

>>28766890
I imagine this is more on UGM doing it.

>> No.28773527

>>28766890
They wernt dancers you retard.....

>> No.28774195

Logistics wise it'd be a nightmare. Say there was an end of summer concert with dancing, Cover would have to fly 4/5 of Myth to Japan weeks ahead of the concert so they can take dance lessons and then do the concert. You really can't have professional dance lessons over Zoom, you need in person instruction that you can't get over a screen. Even if Cover said 'fuck it, just go to your nearest 3D studio and record something and send it in', that's 4 studio rental times Cover needs to pay for and you know they won't do that. Unfortunately stand in dancers are the best compromise, if there is a better way I don't know it.

>> No.28774556

>>28774195
Then do it right or don't do it at all? All it was is fake Myth showing up for a forced Unity moment now. JP gens don't force the zombiefied husks of their genmates to join them onstage like that. It was just done for Unity points, plain and simple.

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>>28766890
Men wanted some authenticity, they got it.

>> No.28774859

I didn't watch it, was it really that bad and obvious?

>> No.28774989

>>28774195
> 4 studio rental times Cover needs to pay for and you know they won't do that
where the fuck does all the money go?

>> No.28775006

>>28774859
It was pretty jarring. Imagine the rest of myth suddenly became backup dancers for Beyonce

>> No.28775062

>>28775006
How fucking stupid, how would that make any of the fans happy

>> No.28775195

>>28774195
Then don't do it, retard.
It was a Calli concert, Ina didn't had to be there for it to be good.

>> No.28775269

>>28775006
what does this mean?

>> No.28775367

>>28766890
Kiara's menhera episode makes sense now

>> No.28775447

>>28775195
If they didn't do it then you'd be crying about them not doing it. People like you are more gossipy then teenage whores.

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>>28774989

>> No.28776587

>>28775447
Litteraly no one was expecting her to have Myth as "back-up dancer" (and the terms is used very loosely here). On top of that, it was on one of her solo song, using paid dancer. Soulless as fuck.

>> No.28776750

>>28766890
you must not have gotten deep forbidden knowledge here, newf4g.

that's actually ina dancing.

>> No.28776970

>>28776587
Exactly. She just wanted to be the first person in Myth to have everyone 'together on stage' instead of waiting for everyone to be able to do it properly. If she wasn't so busy with non-Holo stuff, they ACTUALLY could have done this for Kiara's concert. But, like everything else she does, she only does things with only herself in mind.

>> No.28779896

>>28776970
Mori using her gen mates for her own benefit,nothing new desu

>> No.28779981

>>28766890
Only now you are realizing that HoloEN is soulless shit?

>> No.28780040

>>28767470
Yeah who cares? Next time let's just change VAs too who cares right? It's just fake anime girl models right?

>> No.28780267

>>28767470
Your wigger actively told you to stop fighting her battles
its pathetic

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>>28766983
>they paid a dancer for this

>> No.28780448

>>28766890
>not some middle-aged dude wearing her fucking face.
Bro... what the fuck did I do to you?

>> No.28780474

Doesn’t Ina hate it tho? Not into Holo but I’ve seen the clip where Kiara had to force her todo it pretty much

>> No.28780659

>>28780438
Anon, this one is actually Ina

>> No.28780675

>>28776970
>>28779896
Why are you putting this on Mori though? It could very much been just Cover.

>> No.28780767

>>28780438
That was in Ame's house and with zero help from Cover. But their "live" shows in Japan are all lip-sync and paid dancers.

>> No.28780783

It was kind of weird and out of place but it wasn’t really offensive. It would have been more jarring if they had some members clearly self-record dancing and others clearly hired dancers.

If anything, it was a sanity check seeing my oshi’s body do dance moves that she will never be capable of nor attempt.

I dislike Mori for all sorts of reasons but this isn’t really that big of a deal.

>> No.28782137

>>28780438
Anon I.....

>> No.28782418

>>28780474
Yeah, she was really against it but so what? Suck it up and be a team player. Get off your fat ass and learn a little choreography.

>> No.28783287

>>28766983
>again

>> No.28783359

>>28766890
>fucking hates this skinwalker shit?
I think you're in the wrong place if you hate that kind of thing.

>> No.28783749

There is no way to please everyone. Keep crying anon

>> No.28783783

>>28766890
I don't like it on principle, and I thought they looked like dogshit, but it's not like Mori did it without permission so who gives a fuck.
They were just background extras anyways.

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>>28766964
Oh u

>> No.28784549

>>28774195
The best compromise is to have them dance akwardly and like shit live because that's what people want to see. Jp taking dance lessons is cool because they want to do more but whats important is the spirit of being there even if you're shit at it.

>> No.28786075

>>28780438
>that choreography
I don't blame Ina for not wanting to do this

>> No.28786379

>>28780438
DEAD FISH IN BED

>> No.28786669

>>28786379
Smells like fish too

>> No.28786915

>>28786669
*sniff*

>> No.28786962

>>28768381
Wow, did you pull all those words out of the "music Dictionary" to sound like an expert?

>> No.28787121

>>28786962
He put random /mu/posts into a Markov chain bot

>> No.28787843

https://youtu.be/J2nMpqwaPIM?t=1564
Should've just let Kiara mog them all like Uiha at NJU last year.

>> No.28788008

>>28766890
>Am I the only one who fucking hates this skinwalker shit?
Yes.

When I watched anime, I didn't expect the voice actors to be capable of leaping into the air or slamming a sword down hard enough to shatter the earth. Better to use the medium to its full potential to put on as good a show as possible. That's the edge vtubing has on live performances. Different facets of a character can be played by anyone and everyone, in order to maximize their power level. As long as the character's heart and soul remain the same, there's really no problem.

>> No.28788864

>>28780474
Yes, and this is the reason a lot of people here hate Ina. Hololive fans don’t like seeing their idols *not* dance, and Ina doesn’t like dancing.

Guess whose job it is to do the thing they don’t like.

>> No.28788947

>>28788864
>Guess whose job it is to do the thing they don’t like.
Literally me.

>> No.28789346

>>28767470
>They were prob busy w their own activities
yeah riding cocks and lying on bed so damn busy, they would be busy if they were streaming 8-18h a day but they barely stream gura is always finding new excuses not to stream

>> No.28789722

>>28766890
I used to hate Kiara for how annoying she is, but at least she tries her best when it comes to concerts, Gura is half assing absolutely everything

>> No.28789960

>>28789722
>Not the first post from this IP

>> No.28790030

this free entertainment sucks ass! entertain us, you dumb shitto, anons need all their needs satisfied 1000% for free and only with what they wish to see! fucking circus

>> No.28790045

>>28767161
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R91NunKqu-I&t=24s&ab_channel=LivemasterCh..

>> No.28790176

>>28790045
https://files.catbox.moe/62c4ww.webm
I ain't no tribalfag, and I love me some traditional idolfag shit, but Niji has shit that just scratches a different itch.

>> No.28790618

>>28790045
>>28790176
>NijiEN concerts

>> No.28790787

>>28790618
Nijifags don't let a little thing like the actual question being asked get in the way of their shilling

>> No.28790979

>>28790618
Nigger I don't care about EN concerts full stop, be they Holo, Niji or whatever fucking corpo you want.

>> No.28791519

>>28790176
do you have joe's solo song from same concert in webm form?

>> No.28791674

>>28789960
I can post from a phone if you want
it wasn't the first post and will not be the last

>> No.28791708

>>28766890
it's gay as fuck

>>28788008
Retard.

>> No.28791794

>>28790030
>hurr durr this literal piece of shit from the side of the road is free! Free! why exactly are you complaining you ungrateful swine?

>> No.28791883

It's so fake and cringe, they think their audience is fucking retarded and honestly most of them are.
Those of you who aren't retarded should get out, make them change their ways

>> No.28791889

Ina can't dance given her terrible display on Kiara's 3D live. The only really blatantly wrong thing that Mori did was the bait and switch she pulled. You thought you had to pay to see Gura sing? Nah, the free part was it and she's just a background dancer for the rest of it.

>> No.28791961

>>28790979
Cope Vshojo fag.

>> No.28792049

>>28790176
I kneel.

>> No.28792090
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>>28791961
>Vshojo fag.
Nigga what

>> No.28792389

>>28792090
I kneel

>> No.28792812

>>28780767
Make your wish was definitely not paid dancers given the range of dance movements for Myth (and not lip synced either, was probably prerecorded motion data sent it)

>> No.28792892

>>28792090
>Rene the sex God
My knees...

>> No.28792983

>>28780675
Do I need to remind you of the involvement of Universal Music Group, since it could be their fault

>> No.28793429

>>28790030
>Free entertainment
>Paid for concert
Holy shit how can you be this retarded?

>> No.28793502

>>28788008
That's how Kizuna Ai died. By having 'alternate' characters play her. Ya, she went that extra step with alternate personalities. But this is getting close.

You have someone else pretending to be Ina. She wasn't actually there, she wasn't actually dancing. She was strung up like some corporate puppet.

>> No.28793601

>>28767470
You not only throw every excuse possible but also suck their dicks while doing it, pretty impressive redditfag.

>> No.28794159

>>28766983
so if she'd exercised more then... they would have flown her to japan to do some background dancing?

>> No.28794173

>>28768538
This is the best post in the entire thread.

>> No.28794325

>>28766890
It occurs to me that Ina would most likely just graduate if she was forced to do grueling physical activity to train for a dance choreography.

>> No.28794534

>>28766983
>again

Ummmm????

>> No.28794768

>>28780783
>it wasn’t really offensive
You need to ask yourself "Why did Mori have myth member models rather than random backup dancers?" to figure out why its offensive

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>>28767470
...oh, all this kerfuffle over a Mori concert? It's not hololive, so it's pretty irrelevant if it's the actual girls or not.
You had me worried something had happened of note.

>> No.28794924

>>28766890
Anon, everything about Hololive is fake. We've been trying to tell you this for almost 2 years now. Hired dancers is just one symptom of the larger problem here. Cover Corporation exists on lies.

>> No.28794988

>>28766964
fpbp
>>28766983
lmao

>> No.28795228

>>28794768
>"Why did Mori have myth member models rather than random backup dancers?"
I don't know but it could very much be not even Mori's idea.

>> No.28796141

>>28767470
We're at the acceptance stage that hired dancers are a normal for Holofags LMAO

>> No.28796218

>>28795228
If not her than who anon?As incompetent as Cover can be they have never allowed something so blatant in any of their previous talants lives.

>> No.28796314

>>28767783
JP is infinitely worse. Their entire existence is nothing but lies, scandals, and nepotism. Just take the Nijipill at this point.

>> No.28796375

>>28796314
Agreed. Ever since I started watching Nijisanji, I've enjoyed vtubing way more. Just so much more sovl

>> No.28796397

>>28768480
Actual hired dancers. Cover has been doing this for all of their live performances. Anyone pretending otherwise when there's been countless proof to the point that it's an accepted reality on /hlg/ is a tourist or blatantly uninformed newfag.

>> No.28796398

>>28766890
That's what you get for giving your money to Mori

>> No.28796453

>>28796218
I don't know, UMG maybe? They are out of touch with how vtubers work.

>> No.28796457

>>28774195
Trust the plan!

>> No.28796509

>>28774859
When has it not been blatantly obvious?
>>28779981
As soulless as HoloEN is, nothing compares to HoloJP in terms of soulless cookie cutter bland shit.

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>>28766890
>Not only that but it's insanely disrespectful to all the JPs who practice their asses off to dance well.
oh nononono

>> No.28796562

>>28780438
Yes?
>>28790030
TRUST THE PLAN HOLOBROS!

>> No.28796588

Why are you still watching Mori? Just give up, ignoring her is better.

>> No.28796633

>>28791883
The Japanese are incapable of thinking for themselves bro, giving them way too much credit.

>> No.28796741

>>28766890
Serious question, but why haven't more people taken the Nijipill yet? They're the embodiment of sovl in VTubing. They never left, people fell for the Hololive coof boom and all of the real shit was with them.

>> No.28796825

She did that in her concert? That's really retarded. I'm all for hired dancers to make the stage less empty, but why not make it clear that's what they were? Like Subaru:
https://youtu.be/mhvHZpK-9Ss?t=1011
Or Akirose:
https://youtu.be/mknggf96fuI?t=94
Or Suisei:
https://youtu.be/RDHf9Tmdvpk?t=2794
I don't think it's disrespectful or anything, just really dumb. Like when they started having the Persona singers and dancers cosplaying as characters from the series in the concert, when they were doing just fine reaching the Budokan simply selling themselves and the music. Suddenly they wanted the "oh my god the characters are moving LOLLLLLLL" audience. Why?

>> No.28796958

>>28767470
>Kiara gets everyone together for a random birthday stream set up mostly by Ame.
>Mori does a massive live concert and cant get a single one of her "friends" to actually show up for it.
Mori's FRIENDS must really like her.

>> No.28797048

>>28796958
To be fair, it is pretty much a bitch to get into Japan right now.

>> No.28797153

>>28796958
She does stuff like this.You expect the rest to like her?kek

>> No.28797299

I'm confused. Was the dancer Gura or not Gura? If I was at the concert paying for a ticket I'd ask for a refund if it wasn't Gura dancing. How do we know it's her? She was flailing her arms around like crazy, has Gura ever done that before? If it wasn't Gura why was Gura acting like it was her dancing? Out of character if it's a hired dancer. Anyone?

>> No.28797820

Isn't it taboo to have a skinwalker pretend to be you with your model?

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>nijifags recommend nijisanji to falsefags

>> No.28797919

>>28796958
The US isn't locked down? Japan is still limiting travel to business and booked group tours or something and they're SUPER strict about who they let in for what business.

>> No.28797951

>>28797919
They lifted restrictions like last month.

>> No.28797983

Wanna cry about all the background dancers from gura's birthday concert?

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>>28797820
Traditionally, yeah....that was part of the whole Ai controversy that killed her growth. This might be a form of entertainment built around very tenuous kayfabe, but there's still certain things that will cause a break in suspension of disbelief.

>> No.28798171

>>28797820
>>28798053
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wN6FAJVmwXE

>> No.28798233

>>28780767
>Luna going everyday to train dance and singing, with a schedule and routine that has talked in detail as well as taking proteins and telling stories about her training
Sure faggot, everything is fake.

>> No.28798421

>>28797951
No, they haven't. They've started scaling the restrictions back which is why Cali was finally able to go to the US and get let back into the country afterwards. In order for the rest of Myth to get into the country it would need to be for business and that requires a visa. They are letting in tourists but not individuals, just booked groups which need to stick to an itinerary.

>> No.28798428

>>28780767
>But their "live" shows in Japan are all lip-sync
I bet a lot of them wish they could get away with that. They wouldn't be doing dance lessons until midnight if Cover hired pros to do the mocap stuff for concerts.

>> No.28798524

>>28780675
Cover doesn't do anything. Not a single fucking thing except firing people once in a blue moon.

>> No.28798583

>>28796397
But Korone's flip..

>> No.28798596

>>28798421
Still, Gura could have just danced at a local studio and recorded it and send the data to Mori.

>> No.28798610

>>28797898
Only 2 more weeks until Cover gets better tracking, right, YAGOO trusters?

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>>28796397

>> No.28798683

>>28798583
You'd have to be a special level of retarded to believe that was her. But be my guest and trust the plan! Spend all of your yen on hired dancers and horrible tracking, gaijin!

>> No.28798699

>>28798619
Cartwheels aren't that hard anon.

>> No.28798847

Hired dancers are okay in Hololive.
Besides, it's industry standard. Stunt doubles have been a thing for well over a century.

>> No.28798858

>>28798699
No! it's impossible, it's athletic level move!
No ordinary human can pull that off, you have to spend your whole life to learn that move.
And you expecting me to believe that a hag can pull it off?

>> No.28798881 [DELETED] 

Gira performance was also a dancer with a previous recording of her voice. She is still on the run in Australia.

>> No.28798987

>>28798596
I think that was it when it they performed Q.

>> No.28799008

>>28798171
Skits and shorts that are just animated are acceptable, retard

>> No.28799075

>>28798699
>>28798858
You don't even understand what you're arguing about anymore.

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>>28798610
Sure, go on. Keep on circle jerking.
This thread is no different that 2view vtweeters congratulate each other for "saving" the western vtuber sphere.
A bunch of falsefags and nijifags inhaling each other farts.

>> No.28799150

>>28798847
Nigga the problem isn't that hired dancers are bad, it's unbelievably retarded Holochildren that believe that any of their performances are live.

>> No.28799161

>>28798683
My impression is that Korone did idol stuff when she was younger.

>> No.28799185

>>28799008
So are background dance videos on separate screens off in the background, that are all obviously using the same motion data.
It's literally just using a cheap MV as background visuals.

>> No.28799232

>>28798858
I’ve seen hags back-thrust on my dick with their giant asses at speeds I would kill to have on a race track, never mind a treadmill. Such forbidden power is humbling.

>> No.28799301

>>28799075
Shut the fuck up
There's no way for korone to dance like that, it's gotta be paid dancer.
All those videos of them practice with aki? Guess what? They're paid dancer too!

>> No.28799359

>>28798171
I lose a little more faith in this board every time I come across someone who thinks Hologra is motion captured.

>> No.28799364

wow hololive fans are vocal about the new concert and they are not happy. Theyre discontented with the way myth's models are going and the whole hiring of professional dancers. I guess they were holding out hope for them to fly out to japan. There's even a petition that's garnered thousands of signatures to have the concert scrapped and redone. Obviously that wont happen but it shows how unhappy they are.

>> No.28799414

>>28799301
But not the nijis >>28798619 those are 100% real. Only the holos are fake. This is scientific.

>> No.28799436

>>28799232
We are talking about paid dancer here, holocoomer.
Korone didn't have the necessary requirements to pull a cartwheel.

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Gura wasn't at Mori's concert at all. Her dance was made by someone else and they used an old recording for her voice. She is still running away from management after doing the cosplay concert in Australia.

>> No.28799472

>>28798596
And what about the rest? It was easier/cheaper for Kiara to fly to America than find a studio in Europe and Ame's setup is still too scuffed for something like this anyway. So everyone would have had to pay for studio time for fucking background dancing.

>> No.28799518

>>28799414
Yes. Niji livers are not idols but they can move like idols. They are just that good.
Deal with it holobronies.

>> No.28799578

>>28799436
A cartwheel isn't so impressive on is own as long as she does exercise regularly and did some form of gymnastics or dancing when she was a teen.

>> No.28799626

>>28774195
>You really can't have professional dance lessons over Zoom
Haachama did it for 2nd fes while in Australia.

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>>28766964
>>28767161
>>28767392
>>28767538
>>28767783
>>28767896
>>28779981
>>28789346
>>28794924
>>28796314
>>28796375
>>28796741
What is this absolutely astroturfed bullshit? Everyone can see your doing it, it's just embaressing.

>> No.28799661

>>28799472
Gura had a separate performance that was obviously mocapped by her. The rest of myth were only in the background MV which was animated and not mocapped

>> No.28799775

>>28799453
>cosplay concert in Australia.
Wait, what?

>> No.28799791

>>28799661
How do you know it was her though? Her hand movements seemed more chaotic than usual elegant Gura

>> No.28799818

>>28799578
You can learn how to do a cartwheel in like a week unless you're morbidly obese.

>> No.28799928

>>28799652
It's the antihololive discord raid.
I wish i saved that pic where they specifically choose to bait with mori because deadbeats are easy to troll.

>> No.28800015

are nijifatasses really that surprised someone can do a cartwheel? jesus christ...

>> No.28800023

>>28799791
For one, it's her voice, but clearly recorded with studio equipment rather than her usual mic.

>> No.28800155

>>28800023
Oh, the voice was definitely her. But the dance seemed really like some Hollywood backup dancer, hip hop movements and all. Not sure if Gura is capable of that, she's more elegant and amateur. I don't like that Gura showed no hesitation saying she enjoyed dancing if it wasn't her. She should have said something like "I had so much fun singing, and uhhhh....dancing!!"

>> No.28800364

>>28800155
>voice file sent from overseas to japan?
>believable
>motion file sent from overseas to japan?
>unbelievable
Did you guys just found about internet yesterday?

>> No.28800499

The JP stuff is all legit. It makes no sense to waste money hiring more people to do a job that can be done by the employees you already have. And the dances have never been so amazing that they could only be done by pros.
All the EN stuff so far has probably been fake, aside from what they did at Ame's studio. Not because they want higher quality or anything though, but for logistics, it's just a lot easier and cheaper to have someone come into the JP studio and do the motion capture. It doesn't have to be some badass pro dancer though, maybe they even used some JP Holos to do it. That's fun to imagine.

This is the medicated take.

>> No.28800581

>>28800155
The only reason for gura to go to a studio to record is if she's also recording mocap data. Also there wasn't any real dance at all in her segment so you're exposing yourself very very hard right now.

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>>28800364
Anon I'm just basing my observation from after watching hours of Gura's previous dances. She's much more elegant, seems to have softer movements and more amateurish overall.
This time Gura seemed much more powerful, almost like a black woman was dancing for her.

https://youtu.be/G3xEh7dHg68?t=54

>> No.28800815

>>28799652
>spamming MAG in every thread on the board
>not astroturfing
>random anon posts that happen to not follow the Cover mantra
>absolute paid shill campaign/discord raid
StarsEN was a mistake. At least shitposting between companies used to be fun.

>> No.28800829

>>28800730
>>28800155
>hollywood dancer
>much more powerful
Meanwhile the actual performance isn't even a dance at all.
https://youtu.be/tY8_Qm8kTPM?t=2986

>> No.28800830

>>28800581
I consider hand movements to be dancing. I'm an amateur dancer myself, I have been dancing for 10 years and I can't do what Gura did.

>> No.28800841

>>28800730
>someone improve her skill over time?
>impossible!

>> No.28800963

>>28800830
>>28800829
>Anon can't stand around and sing into a mic

>> No.28801038

>>28800963
She's obviously not just standing. She's doing cool hand movements that you can't do. You're being dishonest, it's one thing to be a fan it's another to be a total simp. Some things shouldn't be defended. Especially if you're paying money.

>> No.28801053

>>28800830
I'm sorry about your disability but able bodied people don't have these problems.

>> No.28801093

>>28801053
Then why are there hundreds of Youtube tutorials specifically for those exact hand movements if it's so easy?

>> No.28801182

>>28801038
Joke's on you I'm Mori doing similar hand movements next to her.

>> No.28801245

>>28801182
Mori hangs around black people, it's to be expected. My point is that it just seemed too powerful for Gura who's softer overall.

>> No.28801281

>>28801093
It's youtube.
There are hundreds of tutorials on how to massages preteen.

>> No.28801331

>>28800730
she's singing a nigger song, of course she'll dance like a nigger

>> No.28801374

>>28801281
Oh well. I just thought it was out of character for Gura. I have lots of black friends that can do those moves naturally. A lot of it is mental, I can probably do it too if I was on ecstasy and feeling confident. I just thought it was out of character, I'll give the benefit of doubt and assume it was Gura but I don't like it one bit.

>> No.28801479

>>28801374
>I have lots of black friends
yikes, go back

>> No.28801526

>>28801479
Wow racist.

>> No.28801574

>>28800015
>he doesn't know

>> No.28801625

>>28801245
You don't have a point at all

>> No.28801631

>>28801479
And it's okay when Gura acts black huh?

>> No.28801640

>>28799818
Not if you are old and never done gymnastics. Your bones and lack of flexibility would make it harder.

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>>28801374
>I have lots of black friends
Maybe that's the problem.
You're stuck with the mindset that people can't change and then blame other for your own misfit.

>> No.28801741

>>28796825
the mystery niggas are really fucking cool

>> No.28801791

>>28801655
Wrong. To clarify, I've met 2-3 black people that can just do these moves naturally. One is an actual dancer the others are not. It's just genetically embedded movement for them, like with athletics. I'm surprised Gura could do it. I would be impressed if it was actually her, but I'm not sure whether I'd prefer it to be a skinwalker or not anymore after thinking about it.

>> No.28801816

>>28799775
https://youtu.be/rJ2pTw3tfBM

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>>28800730
>Kanaru animation
I think it's either kanaruu itself that do the mocap or some nigger did it instead

>> No.28801989

>>28801955
No Kiara is the skinwalker in that dance. Gura is Gura.

>> No.28802084

>>28766890
Anon, if a middle aged man dances better than your oshi then it's her problem. HoloEN needs dance correction immediately.

>> No.28802090

>>28801791
>It's just genetically embedded movement for them, like with athletics.
At first, i laughed my ass off.
Then, i think "this has to be a joke, a falsefag."
And then, i realized that people are that stupid sometimes.

>> No.28802109

>>28801791
>It's just genetically embedded movement for them
I think Gura could have been a dancer, but this is just funny. You autists don't know when to stop a train of thought before it rails.

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>thread about paid dancers
>0 proof

>> No.28802409

>>28780783
if it really was backup dancers (I haven't seen the live yet), then really she should have made them deadbeat skeletons, not the rest of myth.

>> No.28802438

Disrespected? Over being mentioned in a concert? Really? You are jumping the gun too soon. What if there was some reason for it or the others also agreed on it because they were busy. Trust that they are professional and communicate well.

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>> No.28802548

>>28802387
IS THAT REAL???

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>>28802387
>rave dance

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>>28802650
>no FB_ img

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>> No.28804041

To the people that think having backup dancers play the hololive members is acceptable: Would you be okay if the backup dancers were actually men?

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>> No.28805123

>>28775482
Crisp 2 fps.

>> No.28805231

I have only seen the gura song in the free part of the concert (and after seeing this thread) and i don't know why you're so convinced they were using a hired dancer.
It felt like it could perfectly be Gura, it wasn't even really that much of a dance.

>> No.28805267

>>28766890
Yup, very disgusting. Shit blows, Cover sucks ass.

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>>28805123
>>28805231
>>28805267
ok but look at this

>> No.28805376

>>28802387
ISOLATED

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>> No.28805552

>>28797951
Japan? No they did not. In fact they are very likely to be closing their borders again in the next couple of months.

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>>28805552
Yeah but look at this

>> No.28806121

>>28767161
Can’t believe nobody got (and bothered to mention) the point you were making.

>> No.28806399

What the fuck this thread lmao, touch some grass and improve yourself instead OP

>> No.28809741

>>28775482
wow still looks like crap.

>> No.28809847

>>28786962
NTA but what? the only music related word in there besides calling her dogshit was "timbre" is that really too much for you?

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>>28806121
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>>28809847
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>> No.28810204

>>28799185
...ok and?

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>> No.28810917

>>28792090
holy based

>> No.28812978

>>28796741
>Too many members, overwhelming the viewer, not knowing who to watch
>Number of subbed videos smaller than the competition
>EN branch started too late

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>>28810261
I like hags as much as the next guy, but that's really not making any points

>> No.28813386

>>28796825
It was pretty obvious it wasn't them dancing, since all of them have copy-pasted synced dancing, it looked unreal at times, like I was watching an MMD music video.
>>28796958
Who else has an original song with Calli, anon? What were they gonna sing, a cover song? On a paid solo concert?

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>> No.28814703

>>28813386
>It was pretty obvious it wasn't them dancing, since all of them have copy-pasted synced dancing, it looked unreal at times, like I was watching an MMD music video.
Eh, not to chumbies. Chumbies still think it's Gura.

>> No.28815364

>>28814703
Oh yeah, with Gura there's plausible deniability at least, now that i looked at the performance again there's a chance it wasn't her. I was commenting more on the Myth backing dancers part.

>> No.28815870

>>28815364
If that is Gura, she really improved. Almost professional level. I wonder how much she practiced.

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>> No.28816248

>>28797299
I wasn't Gura, but it it wasn't a hired dancer either, it was MMD.

>> No.28816567

>>28816248
The motion was too natural for it to be MMD, it was motion capture for sure.

>> No.28816715

>>28816567
>The motion was too natural
>>28795627
>that arm flipping its shit
>too natural for MMD

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>> No.28817349

>>28767900
Enna had a Higurashi concert. Not 3d, no nanodesu, still a good performance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXcPjY0516U

>> No.28817645

Realistically, wouldn’t any dancers filling in most likely be one of the JP girls with a free day to come in?

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>> No.28818735

So, to everyone defending hiring the dancers, would you be okay with the next concert or holofest having Coco and green gfe in a background monitor dancing behind their genmates?

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