/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>28754764
That's true. But due to time where they stream, I dont sub to everyone in there. i cant catch anyone who stream in the morning, so i dont sub to any jp, id or en that stream early in the day. thats for niji or any agency.
if its not clear at this point, i look at vtubers like machinima or old networks where they are under a brand and i pick whoever i like

>The hololive unity isn't even real anyway
Is this a new or an old cope?

* YESTERDAY'S FINAL TALLY *

>80,534: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>44,799: Pekora (Hololive)
>32,419: Salome (Nijisanji)
>31,286: Miko (Hololive)
>28,534: Nui (Nijisanji)
>24,383: Okayu (Hololive)
>21,311: Fubuki (Nijisanji)
>19,277: Ars (Nijisanji)
>17,385: Lamy (Hololive)
>15,694: Mio (Hololive)
>15,606: Vox (Nijisanji)
>14,974: Luna (Hololive)
>14,771: Iroha (Hololive)
>12,624: Luca (Nijisanji)
>12,561: Ina (Hololive)
>12,554: Kobo (Hololive)
>12,272: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>12,084: Gatchman (Indie)
>11,396: Laplus (Hololive)
>10,980: Sana (Hololive)
>10,325: Fauna (Hololive)
>10,183: Kronii (Hololive)

>>28754832
>>28754716
Anon do we have to do that grade school thing again where I have to explain to you that just because you are incapable of doing something doesn't mean nobody can?

>>28754716
What is so hard to believe about:
Holofags:
>will watch oshi(s) if they stream
>will watch other girls if their oshi(s) don't stream
vs
Nijifags:
>will watch oshi(s) if they stream
>fuck off to who knows where if their oshi(s) don't stream

>>28755014
>JULY 2022 GOLDS
1) Miko (Hololive) - 43,044 - HoloCure
2) Subaru (Hololive) - 66,433 - Birthday stream
3) AZKi (Hololive) - 74,504 - 3D birthday live
4) Tsukasa (Indie) - 41,447 - Streamer league mahjong
5) Mayuzumi (Nijisanji) - 57,985 - Meschers off-collab
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - Drinking talk w/Laplus
7) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - DQ11 casino w/Noel
8) Salome (Nijisanji) - 37,023 - Unpacking
9) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 164,013 - Koshien 2022 draft
10) Shion (Hololive) - 48,313 - 1 million subs celebration totsumachi
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 61,665 - Clubhouse 51 totsu
12) Shiina (Nijisanji) - 49,387 - Niji Koshien practice
13) Pekora (Hololive) - 70,402 - Uno collab w/Marine, Botan & Polka
14) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 54,165 - Niji Koshien practice
15) Natsume (Nijisanji) - 48,192 - 3D debut
16) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 70,166 - Niji Koshien practice
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 142,833 - 3rd anniversary 3D live
18) Mel (Hololive) - 67,290 - 4th anniversary 3D live
19) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 62,890 - Niji Koshien
20) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 80,534 - Niji Koshien

>PER COMPANY
10x: Hololive
9x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie

>PER STREAMER
5x: Pekora
2x: Ibrahim, Kuzuha
1x: AZKi, Mayuzumi, Mel, Miko, Natsume, Nijisanji, Salome, Shiina, Shion, Subaru, Tsukasa

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
128x: Hololive
62x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
3x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
23x: Pekora
16x: Aqua, Salome
14x: Kuzuha
13x: Miko
9x: Subaru
6x: Hal
5x: Kanata, Marine
4x: Gura, Hololive, Mio, Suisei, Toya

>>28754992
Seems to be a variant of the old "they hate each other" shitposts.

>>28754992
Considering they used the stars in their argument for unity when stars is technically HoloPro, not Hololive proper...
Also, I see the NijiEn thread got fucking MAG'd on for their op, let's see if they run with it or they make a new thread.

>>28754992
it's an extremely old cope usually come up with nijifags who cannot believe that holofags follow everyone in hololive and come up with all kinds of copes to prove it can't be done, because you know, if you cope hard enough it'll become real

>>28755068
I assume they jerk it to Ars Almal

fuck off chink jannie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72aeCvtESH0
Number expectations for Towa new outfit today?
I personally believe it would hit 100k+

>>28754927
Final /news/ roundup for 20-07-2022
>>28689995

>Additional news
>>28692001

Recent clip numbers
>>28670801
>>28670862
>>28671101
>>28671160

>https://arca.live/b/holopro/54819599

>1. Arrived at the number-ticket distribution place around 7 o'clock (I was number 5, not per person, but one number-ticket per party)
>At 8 o'clock, there are more than 20 people and 9:30 people, so staff control starts at 10 o'clock. The cafe number ticket closes at 10:30
>The Samjeong Tower opens at 11 o'clock, and there are many people on the 9th floor. It is an escalator from 1-7, and it takes about 5 minutes to move a little from the 7th floor.
>It's better than Hapjeong. I heard that Hapjeong has people waiting since 00:00 lol. Maybe it's better to go to Busan?

It may be impossible to watch every holo, but I'm familiar with every single one of them, from Anya to Peko, just from all the events, collabs, TL clips, memes, etc.
And I'm hardly the most hardcore holo fan

https://twitter.com/kemo_refle/status/1545743073103474688?
Masturbation relay

>>28755172
Not if submarine don't reschedule their ERROR stream

>>28755172
Already setting up grudgeposts, eh? You fucking Nijinig falseflaggers never change.

>>28755199
that's what that nijikek fails to understand, that there's a difference between keeping up with everyone to watching every single stream that hololive puts out, but of course when you try to explain it to him he just comes up with excuses for why that cannot be done

Current itunes ranking for SN

>>28755172
69k and i'm not joking

I like this guy

>>28755095
looks like they even MAG'd /hlgg/

>>28755172
Sub 30k. Will not beat the council collab for sure.

>>28755172
around 40k

>>28754927
Iluna debut waiting rooms
>>28714465
Tempus debut dates
>>28714602

Council 30 days true average
>>28552826 :: Fauna
>>28553802 :: Mumei
>>28554518 :: Kronii
>>28554951 :: Bae
>>28555400 ::Sana
>>28582197

>>28755250
hell, i'm a nijifag and follow everyone in hololive except kobo (not because I dislike her but because I don't know indonesian)

>>28755250
Pathetic, you don't even know Kazushite McDonald in NijiJP. He is one of the rising stars from GloC4 sub-unit, featuring Mineta Sandow, Noctyx Lunafreya and Dream Kazuki.

>>28755346
kek

You're not gonna believe this

>>28755095
>file deleted
kek

>>28755102
>>28755095
its not a cope, its a reality
>>28755199
>>28755250
Thats the thing you dont seem to understand. Not everyone cares about keeping up with everyone.
This shouldn't even be an argument in the first place when both models are valid for you as a viewer.
You can have your fake unity and try to watch everyone while only giving real views to 4-5. Or you can just watch whoever you want be it 1, 5- 10 or more.

The Maggots are really popping off in the Catalog.

>>28755457
we've explained to you that holofags do in fact keep up with everyone and nijifags don't, and that's why hololive has the box while nijisanji doesn't, but you'd rather call it "fake unity" and come up with endless lists of excuses why that cannot be even though it is.
This isn't Fate, denying reality hard enough does not allow you to rewrite it

>>28755376
Anon wtf, that grudgepost is trademarked for Pekora.

>>28755457
>real views

>>28755435
holy shit

>>28755237
Her previous outfit was 70k+ and that was when she was a still a 3k+ streamer and before the tourney, males, vspo, Pebot, or startend buffs. But yeah, I'm a falseflagger now for expecting better numbers now that she's more popular.

>>28754975
I guess that's one good thing about Niji's talent. Can't push it onto yea if you physically cannot be there to watch the streams, and ofc vods are vods.
My oshi sometimes does a midnight stream and very rarely is it karaoke. I have to catch those and I feel like shit the next morning without fail, so I feel you there man

>>28755435
Sister…

>>28755457
If both models are valid then why are you arguing with us? Just live and let live. Leave us to do what we like and we'll leave you to your own device.

Explain Ayame.

>>28755608
?? Did you know that suba/marine have holoError offcollab stream at the same time?

>>28755545
i call it fake unity because it is. and it is in nijisanji as well if you want me to call that. family is a complete retarded concept for an agency or company.
those are all co-workers.. but my point is that nijifags and holofags never will agree with anything because each side see vtubing in a different way and this includes what we are talking about right now

I seriously can’t believe Finana did a 5 and a half hour long stream today and couldn’t break 600 ccv. Jesus Christ graduate that branch

>>28755435
Isn't sister used to be a big niji?

>>28755608
yeah but that was also during the outfit relay during golden week

>the jp-only faggots over at /jp/ can't claim to be true hololive fans now that their hatred for unity is exposed since they don't follow EN or ID
You love to see it, last samurais seething

>>28755728
Get woke go broke

>>28755715
A much lazier gura.

>>28755715
giggles
dochi dochi

>>28755715
My beloved
t. ATMguri

>>28755696
I don't blame any of you to follow it, each one do what they want, i just think its a fake unity because realistically no one can watch that much, even if you are subbed to like 10 in some agency like tsunderia.

>>28755728
not before Iluna leeching

>>28755715
Oni Ojou.
Wait, let me rephrase that.
Cute Oni Ojou.

>>28755715
my and mio lovechild

4chan affects numbers
>>28755258

>>28755250
Hell, I'm a holofag and I've absorbed the names and some personality of several NijiJPs simply by osmosis from this thread, events, and memes.
Problem is, there's too many of them that CAN'T get that sort of mindshare at the bottom of the Niji pile.

>>28755417
/mag/ is the most beautiful thing that happened on this site in 2022 since Holofes

>>28755812
>he doesn't use multi-view
Weak

>>28755715
The definition of Quality > Quantity

>>28755731
No. She always has been in the 3k-2k range
>>28755728
what do you expect to happen when she picks a terrible game to stream and others have a much better choice. only her biggest fans will be on it. whenever she has better choices she surpass 1k easily

>>28755715
A goldmine that somehow shits gold by itself without the need for any personnel to mine it.

>>28755435
OH NO NO NO SISTERSISTERS, WE GOT TOO COCKY

>>28755567
There's a nijicope for everything
> #22 Statistics are fake numbers (>>15032001)

>>28755728
She was playing a mobile gatcha game wasn't she? Don't know what you can expect from that lol.

Is Lazulight falling back to their pre-Lux numbers? Elira and Fianna are not doing too well despite being the 1st gen.

>>28755115
What'd Bae get 26k with? I don't even remember.

>>28755715
Easy to keep up with.

>28755457
>28755727
>28755812
Uh huh. Gotchu, senpai.

tokyo rona reached 30k+ cases today

>>28755958
Offcollab

>>28755958
Off-collab with other EN.

>>28755177
Cute Tako

>>28755946
>Finana
Read this thread >>28596282

>>28755860
Just look at /#/ taking the niji quiz a few weeks ago, most of those who posted results got around 50-60 with them saying that they never watched niji JP

>>28755715
Luxury Goods Vtuber

>>28755991
that border is never going to be opened is it?

>>28755435
ah, that's sister claire
i masturbated over 100 times to that glory hole doujin of her

>>28755860
I too absorved by osmosis but by watching clips, being in the niji fanbase, watching collabs and then giving a chance to the ones I liked, and with that I have 60 subscribed nijis. I recognize all of them but ofc only a certain amount i know more. just depend on how into it you are. its not easy to get into hololive either for a while and its going to be harder over time, evne more in the west where most fans watch only EN now

>>28755991
NijiFes in shambles.

>>28755973
Ayame is best oshi for busy man, and most hated vtuber for neet.

>>28755991
ACCELERATE

>>28755991
jesas japan's never going to open up at this rate

>>28755172
>subamarine overlap
40k max.

>>28755305
Peaks I've recorded so far via https://kworb.net/charts/index_a.html:
#1 TW
#1 CA
#2 global
#2 ID
#2 PH
#2 TH
#3 US
#5 JP
#7 VN
some might've been higher but I don't remember and the site doesn't track prev day delta for all the countries

>>28756052
looks like it

>>28755435
Risu just hit 2k

>>28756045
this thread has nothing to do with finana. if you want to compare her, its like shes Rin but instead of FF14, its gacha

>>28755946
>Finana
Read this thread >>28711044

>>28755731
Big is a relative term, for a niji she's pretty big, but she's a 3-4k ish streamer so by our standards she's Kiara level

>>28755898
>No. She always has been in the 3k-2k range
Interesting, so why was she brought up so much in the past, especially in the West? I don't follow Nijisanji at all but Sister Claire is one of the few I can recognize by name alone

>>28754927
LazuLight subs 24hrs
>Pomu: 13.5k
>Elira: 14.6k
>Finana: 13.4k

Obsydia subs 24hrs
>Rosemi 16k
>Petra 18k
>Selen 16k

Ethyria subs 24hrs
>Nina 13.7k
>Millie 13.7k
>Enna 12.8k
>Reimu 13.1k

Luxiem subs 24hrs
>Luca 10.7k
>Shu 10.4k
>Ike 11k
>Mysta 11.7k
>Vox 11.8k

Noctyx subs 24hrs
>Sonny 34.9k
>Uki 31.9k
>Alban 40.8k
>Fulgur 31.4k
>Yugo 33k

Iluna subs 24hrs
>Maria 54.3k
>Kyo 52k
>Aia 52.4k
>Aster 55.6k
>Scarle 57.9k
>Ren 56k

>>28756091
Why is Mori's music more popular than King and Luxiem? Fujos should do better.

>>28755849
Get MAGGED

>>28755728
I'm also surprised that she didn't get raided.

>>28755866
kek this is so good

>>28756156
I thought NijiEN6 subs would be higher but having a close race with Tempus is kinda embarrassing. HoloEN3 could have 100k by now

>>28756150
You likely know her because she collabed with Holos, most famously in that kindergarten stream thing.

>>28756060
You can't possibly be a disgusting clipfag without getting into Hololive clips. Hana at one point got annoyed at her viewer for mistaking her as a Holo talent. It's literally impossible to avoid Holo clips. Stop making shit up, njinigger.

i am the only one getting warned for silly posts?

Mori's music is reclining no?

>>28756150
because 2-3k was actually pretty huge back in the day, her issue is that she's stayed at the same 2-3k range while the industry massively inclined

>>28756297
yes, now fuck off

>>28756300
Typically if you spam releases they'll recline, yeah. Also her songs haven't been particularly notable. I guess Mera Mera was outright as well as Capsule. Those are the only 2 UMG-era songs I've liked though.

>>28756297
no, the new jannies are running around doing no fun allowed right now, it should shake out in a couple days

>>28755715
Smug bitch deserves some correction rape

>>28756156
Appreciate the info. Safe to assume their debuts will be just as big if not bigger than Noctyx. If they eventually drop to 2-4k but don't affect the numbers of other members that'll be a victory overall, but I have a feeling a new 3view is going to be made, whether from wave 6 or a straggler from an eariler wave

>>28756297
New jannies busy at work over-reacting g
to every report.

>>28755435
Clearly a typing skill issue

>>28756297
God gives his hardest battles to his silliest posts.
Also nice self-deletion lmao.

>>28756254
Faggot, most people since 2020 get into vtubers and just watch EN. Language barrier is real and now with a ton of vtubers, there's more than enough to watch without other branches
>>28756230
Tempus began 3 days before and already were surpassed by ILUNA in 24 hours, so idk how you are seeing this as positive

>>28756156
reminder that up to noctyx, all of them lost subs and were culled

>>28756300
Her new songs are reclining and not getting numbers enough like her old songs, funny enough her 1-2 year old songs still receive good numbers every month, seems like her fans prefer her old style more than the new one

>>28755727
>"If I say it is so then it is so."
I don't think anyone at Hololive outright claimed to be a unityfag. Management does, because it is in the best financial interest to be so, some Holos are because they don't mind, but others are not interested in collabing with males or even outsiders for whatever reasons may be in their heads. One thing they all try to do is keep a positive atmosphere with one another and don't interfere with each other unnecessarily (I don't know if the Bae-Roberu thing with Ollie counts).

All the unity fagging primarily comes from the audience, with the two or three Holos that do unityfag for whatever reason.

>> 28756297
i suspect the new jannie is one of these mag spammers, some posts calling them out on their thread get instantly deleted

7/19/22
*FINAL GAIJIN TALLY OF THE DAY*
>13,804: Vox (Nijisanji)
>12,624: Luca (Nijisanji)
>12,561: Ina (Hololive)
>12,530: Kobo (Hololive)
>11.011: Sana (Hololive)
>10,344: Fauna (Hololive)
>10,232: Kronii (Hololive)
>9,661: Kiara (Hololive)
>8,466: Sana (Hololive)
>7,552: Mori (Hololive)
>7,278: Zeta (Hololive)
>6,009: Kaela (Hololive)
>5,661: Moona (Hololive)
>5,181: Amelia (Hololive)

>GAIJIN GOLD SO FAR FOR JULY
1. Mumei (Hololive) - 18,378 (I'm on Observation Duty 5 w/Fauna)
2. Ina (Hololive) - 22,039 (Return Stream)
3. Luca (Nijisanji) - 26,367 (600k sub celebration unarchived karaoke)
4. Mumei (Hololive) - 22,338 (HoloCure: Save the Fans)
5. Kobo (Hololive) – 22,212 (Getting Over It)
6. Gura (Hololive) - 32,780 (HoloCure: Save the Fans)
7. Kiara (Hololive) - 36,856 (3D Birthday concert)
8. Gura (Hololive) - 19,070 (I am Fish)
9. Kobo (Hololive) – 12,130 (Rock Simulator)
10. Lily (Cloud Horizon) – 21,623 (Graduation ceremony)
11. IRyS (Hololive) - 23,882 (1st Anniversary Celebration)
12. Sana (Hololive) – 22,793 (Graduation announcement)
13. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 14,315 (Reviewing viewer dishes)
14. Mysta (Nijisanji) – 21,552 (Genshin Impact gacha)
15. Kobo (Hololive) – 14,834 (Golf It! w/Mori)
16. Kronii (Hololive) – 16,001 (Dark Deception)
17. Vox (Nijisanji) - 13,352 (RP ASMR)
18. Selen (Nijisanji) - 18,215 (Obsydia 1 year anniversary celebration)
19. Mumei (Hololive) - 25,551 (Anatomy review w/Calli and Sana)
20. Vox (Nijisanji) - 13,804 (The Sims 4 making Iluna House)

>GOLD PER COMPANY
Hololive - 13
Nijisanji – 6
Others - 1

>GOLD PER STREAMER
3x: Kobo, Mumei
2x: Gura, Mysta, Vox
1x: Ina, Luca, Kiara, Lily, IRyS, Sana, Kronii, Selen

>SILVER PER COMPANY
Hololive - 14
Nijsanji - 6
Others - 0

>SILVER PER STREAMER
5x: Kobo
3x: Gura
2x: Vox, Luca
1x: Uki, Baelz, Mysta, Mumei, Amelia, IRyS, Kiara, Mori

>BRONZE PER COMPANY
Hololive - 16
Nijsanji - 4
Others – 0

>BRONZE PER STREAMER
3x: Kobo, Mumei, Ina
2x: Amelia
1x: Shu, Kiara, Luca, Kronii, Fauna, Mori, Moona, Petra, Uki

>MEDAL COUNT
Kobo: 11 (3-5-3)
Mumei: 7 (3-1-3)
Gura: 5 (2-3-0)
Vox: 4 (2-2-0)
Mysta: 3 (2-1-0)
Luca: 4 (1-2-1)
IRyS: 2 (1-1-0)
Kiara: 3 (1-1-1)
Ina: 4 (1-0-3)
Kronii: 2 (1-0-1)
Lily: 1 (1-0-0)
Sana: 1 (1-0-0)
Selen: 1 (1-0-0)
Amelia: 3 (0-1-2)
Mori: 2 (0-1-1)
Uki: 2 (0-1-1)
Baelz: 1 (0-1-0)
Shu: 1 (0-0-1)
Fauna: 1 (0-0-1)
Moona: 1 (0-0-1)
Petra: 1 (0-0-1)

>>28756753
Good.

okay, I'm pretty sure tenma was a 200 ish streamer before this, what's going on

>>28755991
What does this mean for vtubing? Incline or decline?

>>28756753
your delusions aren't real

Which chuubas are in the starting stalls tonight? I know Tarantino has an outfit stream tonight, but are there any other likely contenders?

>>28756786
who

>>28756520
And yet Tempus is still following behind NijiEN6? Maybe NijiEN6 is not performing as well as Riku expected.

>>28755991
Comiket...

>>28756786
dead hour

>>28756819
tenma balls

>>28756814
bully panda koshien and King

>>28756753
Now that you mention it its surprising that there aren't more companies having interns become 4chan jannies

>>28756821
So far, it seems NijiEN6 subs are slowing down quickly, they might not make it to 100k before debut.

Found this from dicksword. Imagine spouting this bullshit when Lazulight went through the same thing.

>>28756858
What is King doing?

>>28756821
You know this doesnt make any sense right. if it was like you think it is, they wouldn't even lose the lead on subs in 24 hours

>>28756814
Subaru HoloError with Marine, overlapping towa outfit reveal as well

>>28756297
Honest reason? Your post was probably a bad post. I've looked through the deleted posts in the last thread and not a single one was a good post. If anything, more posts should have been deleted, including obvious bait and everyone replying to obvious bait.

>>28756786
Bored MH watchers who would normally watch the girls probs.

>>28756888
Why are Nijisanji fans talking about Holostars instead of their NijiEN6?

>>28756888
you mean the same thing you fags said when nijien debuted?

>>28756888
>talking about holostars rather than iluna
Rent free.

>>28756821
I'm kinda disappointed with NijiEN6 honestly, their sub rate is quite slow when people keep saying they have hype.

>>28756858
King will have another koshien tonight?

>>28756786
Temma hits 400ish viewers with somewhat regularity. Him and Miyabi have both inclined to Aruran-level views in the past 4-6 months or so.

>>28756907
I don't see Marine in the picture or title of the frame Subaru put up.

>>28756753
>>28756869
nice samefag retard

>>28756753
I think they're just enforcing it like a general now, and those get stricter moderation. It's like all the posts complaining about groomers in the Rindou thread that got deleted.
/#/ is one of the few generals where blatant bait is usually unmoderated, because of the nature of the general.

>>28757015
https://twitter.com/houshoumarine/status/1549980701813968896

>>28756982
Jordan Sweeto fans know he is in NijiEN6 yet no one bothers. He had over one million subs as well.

>>28756982
Spics seem to have abandoned the latina anyway. They don't like the alphabet talk

>>28757122
By that logic, Mumei should have over 1 million subs by now. It's been almost a year and still nowhere close.

>>28757122
>>28757178
Did people knew HER was in hololive before Gura debut? I know that HER made an ambiguous post during her hiatus with Risu replied but that's it.

>>28757178
they got culled early on. 3(4?) times

>>28756888
Doesn't it make sense for the current audience to be the ones hyped for a new generation, though? Myth was hyped up by HoloJP fans, Council was hyped up by Myth fans, Noctyx was hyped up by Luxiem fans, etc. Luxiem wasn't even a smash hit right from the get go.

>>28756753
seems like a big delusion for me, they probably got a reason to ban you

>>28757216
check the thumbnail of her debut
>>28757122
>>28757178
both mumei (2013) and sweeto(2009) got their 1m over years of youtube grind. compare that to HER (2016)

Why can't NijiEN fans stop punching down? HoloEN fans just want to enjoy our oshis.

>>28756300
Somehow I think she’ll be okay
>>28755305

>>28756943
Yeah and we were right about them not having a Western Market for their Fujo and male fanservice content. We didn't account for China and SEA though.

>>28756888
hololive really does live rent free in nijikeks heads

Pre-primetime /news/ update for 21-07-2022 (all times are in JST)

> Hololive x Aniplus Korea Cafe collaboration full merch list released (https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000738.000030268.html).). Stores in some cities have already sold out (https://twitter.com/ANIPLUS_SHOP/status/1549960586066141184).).
> Council + Irys reveal their "proper" VRChat 3D Models (https://youtu.be/bFjuKhG2Hzc).).
> Towa will unveil her new outfit tonight at 8pm (https://youtu.be/72aeCvtESH0).).

Misc.
> Another big cross-company collab involving Hololive, Nijisanji, 774 and NoriPro planned for 9pm tonight (Project Winter) -
Rion : https://youtu.be/rydx82oKKdw
Rindou : <no frame yet>
Roboco : https://youtu.be/47IZiPiB_Nw
Mel : <no frame yet>
Patra : https://youtu.be/XnFBURedeyY
MokoMeme : https://youtu.be/xMqvY7yAAX4
Warabe : https://youtu.be/Fyl03JzQtP4
Reglush Lionheart : https://youtu.be/NoE5dOaARV0

Previous : >>28689995

>>28757392
Who's the person on the left? An inside joke from her RM?

>>28757081
the issue is that they aren't deleting blatant bait, they are just deleting what they don't like, which is the same issue with all moderation here which is why /vt/ manages to be both overmoderated and undermoderated at the same

>>28757489
this is the original meme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLeAot4Zrxo
as for the reference just look at the cover she was most known for

>>28757400
>Even their JP senpai loves HoloEN more than them

>>28757497
ah, i see. that's just 4chan mods for you, it'll never change for better or for worse.

KNEEL TO KAELA

Praying that my oshi gets good numbers tonight. Praying that Fauna and Mumei continue to incline. And that Festival has gets >60k for her 3D live.

>>28757551
marine new outfit? seems different

>>28757602
>60k for her 3D live
need more to beat Nijis Demiurge

>>28756753
there's no meido targeting anyone, it was just a schizo samefagging and self deleting on the last thread, for attention probably. Moderation just got stricter so you're going to see a lot of shitpost and bait being deleted, don't let confirmation bias go to your head

>>28757601
why is this even a thing, for what purpose does it exist

>>28757605
anon...

>>28757538
Oh lmao, damn she really wasn't subtle huh. Did anyone else do something like this?

>>28757601
wrong pic, this one

>>28757392
I think there is also a difference that HER joining Hololive is still in her prime influence.

>>28741908
SCs for https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWf-QkldTQQ
symbol count sum
JPY 12 ¥7,870.00
USD 250 $3,283.39
GBP 2 £20.00
PHP 7 ₱3,250.00
KRW 8 ₩122,000.00
EUR 34 €588.00
AUD 10 A$129.99
ARS 3 ARS500.00
CAD 25 CA$409.00
CLP 1 CLP10,000.00
CRC 1 CRC2,500.00
HKD 9 HK$1,198.00
IDR 2 IDR120,000.00
ISK 1 ISK1,500.00
MXN 7 MX$400.00
MYR 6 MYR67.90
TWD 17 NT$3,065.00
PLN 1 PLN1,000.00
BRL 1 R$20.00
SEK 3 SEK200.00
SGD 1 SGD10.00
ZAR 1 ZAR70.00
total 402 ¥705,192.43 or $5,098.01

>>28757645
I don't want to jinx it by hoping for higher numbers

>>28757602
based

>>28757122
Sweeto unfortunately has a problem in that most of his fanbase was just people who watched his girlfriend Wolfychu. Checking through his videos he does absolutely terrible in terms of viewership unless Wolfychu or another Storytime tuber is involved. For the past year he struggles to even break 100k views.

>>28757671
>Kaela has streamed more than pink dog
Ma-masaka

>>28755435
> tfw Sister Claire was one of those I missed during the NijiQuiz a few days ago
Is she not participating in the whole Koushien thing?

>>28757661
I guess it's a measure of peak popularity combined with consistency. So 4 of the 1st army are still at the top but Aqua and Suisei get kicked out for not having enough streams

>>28757698
That worth 5 public streams of SC.

>>28757750
sponsorship knee cap pink dog this month

>>28756059
numbers?

>>28757602
If Mel can get over 60k on a weekday, Matsuri on a Friday night should be able to get that easy.

>>28757795
96h in 20 days is around her usual numbers though

The hierarchy of
1. VSPO
2. Neoporte
3. Hololive ID
4. Nijisanji
5. Holostars

>>28757671
Karla spent on average 25% of each day streaming

>>28757698
13,736 vod views

>>28757871
*Kaela

>>28757871
It's more like 31% (148/480)

>>28757874
13k vod doesn't mean 13k members right? Like people can rewatch and it counts as one new view.

>>28757671
>Kobo: 77 hours
>Kaela 148 hours
>Moona: 87 hours
>Reine: 86 hours
What the hell is this branch

I'll post these again since I posted way to late in eu hours. Here's some numbers related to koshien. first the individual koshien streams, with comparison to previous years when they can be done.

JWU
How's VShojoJP doing today?
Did they hit 15k?

>>28757874
14k vod views for a stream that had 3.5k ccv peak and sat at 3k for majority of the time… jesus

>>28757872
Forgot screenshot

>>28757872
1.HoloID
2.VSPO
3.Neoporte
4.Holostars

>>28757943
Here's the blocks, drafts and finals.

>>28757953
Who is she?
New people?

>>28755095
I'm starting to hate that fucker because of you guys trying to force him everywhere, but every single instance where it's possible to shit on NijiCN I'll gladly enjoy that.

>>28757933
their internet getting banned soon, so they stream as much as they can before moving to jp

>>28757660
My posts got deleted and I ate at least one 15 minute posting ban last thread
(or was it the one before that).

>>28758000
nose...

>>28756300
twitter crowd thinks she "sold out" due to the label sign on.
a small part of her audience has been lost, but I don't think it'll affect her much.

>>28757981
And here are some wild predictions.
Final predictions are based on the assumption of a similar % increase in viewers between the highest group stream and the finals.
Riku should be praying for Kuzuha and Ibrahim in the finals. Or just, rig it.

So has Tempus beat Uproar's pre-debut subs already?

>>28758030
Yup?

>>28745190
Tbh, nothing they said there was wrong. Kobo's numbers are extremely suspicious. If she has 1 Million subs, and these are all pretty recent subs so not dead subs, why isn't her CCV Salome tier? Bots seem to be the most logical explanation.
>inb4 VODs
It's called VOD cope for a reason. Why would people not catch her streams live?

>>28755726
didn't ask falseflagger, it's not a real offcollab because they're in the studio and kys /u/fag

What is the chance that kyOresu will be in the new niji wave?

>>28757671
>>28757750
Damn at this rate, Kaela is going to beat the holo most stream hours in a month record. Not even prime Koyori and Watame was able to dethrone that.

>>28758070
Yes, almost doubled even.

>>28757671
>My Welcome Memba Mugyu Mugyu is not near the bottom end anymore
I'm crying..

>>28758107
0, considering everyone was already found out

>>28757920
it had around 10k right as the stream ended, she easily has way more than 13k members

>>28758107
Anon, all of the Nijis got Nene'd. Go to the catalog to shitpost.

>>28758112
They have a good chance of getting 2-3k median then.

>>28757660
Shut up janny, go eat your bat soup

>>28757822
Friday is not exactly a buff day though.

>>28758030
fucking retard

>>28758111
Prime view Miko once managed to stream 180 or 190h in a month

>>28758137
>>28758133
oh I see. That's what I get for not living in the dumpster that is the catalog. Any good ones?

>>28758099
??

To think that Gura can have a 3k ccv for a member stream that's not notified outside of her member post is insane. I only heard about her 4k member karaoke, but that's karaoke.

>>28758177
Not really, the PLs was so bad that it sent /nijiEN/ into a spiral of doomposting

>>28757920
member stream views is unknown territory, not only do we not know how accurate the phone glitch thing is since its clearly not an intended feature we don't know how long member vods take to process

>>28758083
>Suspicious
https://streamable.com/hukpo4
Keep trying nijikek

>>28758111
Miko has an old record of 200+ some hours I believe

>>28758177
The loli is a chinkstraya with a confirmed boyfriend... and that should tell you all that you need to know of how bad that wave is going to be for everyone.

>>28758222
Jesas stop hyping 3k ccv membership stream.

>>28758153
Yeah, I was talking about that. Miko holds the record for most stream hours at 190 hours back in February 2020.

>>28758226
NTA but how bad are they?

>>28758240
Lol baited

>>28758083
Kobo's CCV is pretty normal for a 1million subbed/followed streamer (consistent 8-11k+ streams is unironically OTV tier and they have more subs than her currently). It's more that Kobo's viewers are casual outsiders while Salome's viewers was basically the entirety of the NijiJP "box" plus some tourists who were still part of the Vtuber audience.

>>28758177
I mean this pretty much tells you all you need to know about the audience they are going for

>>28758083
Just go kill yourself you timelooping faggot.

>>28758153
>>28758262
>>28758316
Stop lying and making shit deflecting nijinigger. No way the lazy pagpag whore would stream this much she hates it and does only for money like a hungry money whore she is.

>>28758353
That person also immediately posted a meme about how gay they are.

>>28758321
A Viet-thot (pic), a fujo, Sweeto, and 2 random nobody

When did NijiEN start leaning into the alphabet people? I don't remember the first 3 waves being this blatant.

>>28758452
Ever since Luxiem. Noctyx was when it got super big though because of people like Uki and Yugo.

>28758387
imagine being this dude, just waiting in this thread at the mere mention of like the 3 chuubas he hates to sperg out in incomprehensible word salad, he sounds barely human anymore

>>28758177
The loli's is actually pretty good except the bf thing; cute voice, likes idols, decent at shooters/ apex

>>28758452
blame her

>>28758452
I'm starting to think that Nina despite all the shitposting is responsible for this.

Solid gains for Anycolor today with the stock up 6.4% and closing at 6000 yen on the dot. After multiple days of losses this was desperately needed.

>>28758312
You're right, nothing to brag about a 3k member stream.
(pic related)

>>28758083
Because Salome is botted whereas Kobo is not

>>28758514
She's a victim of discord grooming from her valorant group

>>28758030
The drama is over slowpoke. Google bowed down to the Indo govt demands.

>>28758177
Instead of getting 2view vtubers, looks like they got a full wave of fleshtubers with >100k subs, including an omegle react streamer, a makeup youtuber, and some guy who ran a virtual strip club and got twitlongered by one of the virtual strippers he fired. From what I saw, Maria should be decent at least. Dunno about the rest.

>>28758550
nijibros...

>>28758452
Since the very first wave, anon. Did you forget that Elira recommended an LGBT book early on? They were open to it from the start, but they kept to themselves because there weren't much of them to constantly blast it like it's propaganda.

>>28758083
Can confirm, am bot

do we like selen here

>>28758496
>>28758387

>>28758562
So you are telling me, she accused her fans being parasocial, but she's the one being parasocial with particulate discord group?

>>28758590
no

>>28757660
> you're going to see a lot of shitpost and bait being deleted
even fetish generals it seems, /become/ was harmless and a fun thread

>>28758550
Am i suppose to be impress?

>>28758590
Not after what the Selennigger did

>>28758586
I remember Ame straight up showing that she's into BL stories in her first months but that's it.

>>28758648
NIjiseethe

>>28758568
>Those profiles
Yeah… that’s really bad.

Who exactly are Sushi and Otakmori?

>>28758586
things really gut turned into overdrive when noctyx debuted and Uki got in

this thread really seems to have a hate boner for Nijisanji uh

>>28758713
blame them >>28758083

>>28758709
Sushi is a stealth Nijishill..
https://youtu.be/bfcfWW1lNZE

>>28758710
NijiEN became a parody of what people thought HoloEN was gonna be like huh

>>28758694
now self-delete your post to blame meidos, schizo

>>28758694
Tell gura to stream more cumbud. If mori who is the busiest EN member can stream there is no reason for gura to not stream.

>>28758568
Jesas that's fucking bad. What the fuck were they thinking with those hires?

>>28758739
It is clearly labeled as nijisanji though?

>>28758387
(You)
I still have the image I used to make fun of the Ayamefags and their lazy oshi 2 years ago.

>>28758739
Hima is an honorary Holo so she gets the pass

>>28758779
>What the fuck were they thinking with those hires
ACCELERATE

>>28758750
Nigger

>>28758796
Is Saki an honorary holo too?

>>28758739
>unlisted video from 2020

>>28758698
>>28758779
To be fair, people can make a clean break from their PL when they debut as a vtuber, so maybe they had a really good fucking audition or something idk. But their twitter interactions are not giving me much hope and it feels like NijiEN is pivoting hard towards normalfags and western style "vtubers".

>>28758568
Are they just picking the ones with big sub counts?

>>28758668
BL isn't LGBT. It's literally gaybait for straight degenerates just like CGDCT yuri is for guys.

>>28758750
>>28758824

>>28755179
>https://arca.live/b/holopro/54819599
holy hell yagoo open the holokr already... even kpop girlgroup doesn't create this much hype over a fucking cafe

>>28758568
Do they just hire anyone with biggish numbers? Inb4 they hire DSP or some shit.

>>28758832
What do you think... though an honest non-shitpost answer is no, Honhima can vaguely be described as Holo-like but Sasaki is a Niji through and through

>>28758868
>people can make a clean break from their PL
Literally never happen. The soul can never change.

>>28758821
>ACCELERATE

>>28758832

>>28758739
Anon, you absolute newfag.
That was him prior to switching over entirely to being a Hololive clipper. Like holybahitndo you not even bother to check the dates on your bait? This shit is so expired it's already rotted to dust!!!

>>28758739
anon where did you even get this unlisted video from 2020?

>>28758935
Why is accelerate the meme when this is how fast niji pushed out their talent?

funny thread.

>>28758821

I’m getting foot vibes from the /mag/ blokes. Their memes remind me of the old /sp/ crowd

>>28755179
How did the Luxiem cafe do in comparison?

>>28758906
>>28758944
Wait, some bullying happened or something? I am not interested in Luna to dig about her too much.

>>28758891
> posts low effort bait
> gets banned for flooding/spamming
seems right to me

>>28758962
>he's this new

>>28758988
>foot vibes
Good vibes, damn it

>>28758949
there's people on this thread holding grudges since 2019, it doesn't surprise me that people have shit like that saved anymore

So when is the next NijiEN wave? September?

>>28758568
>virtual strip club
he will feel right at home in nijisanji.

>>28758949
It's a pretty memorable clip from back then. I have it saved to my playlists.
>>28759007
>being this new

>>28759009
NIjiseethe

>>28758538
I still don't understand the stock market

When will we see male and female collab RP ASMR?

>>28759072
numbers go up, numbers go down, it's not rocket science

>>28759072
But low, sell high.

>>28758870
Gen full of out of the normal box picks of "content creators" to see if they can pick up a fresh audience pool. Its going to blow up in their face spectacularly like yugo

>>28759060
Hey I was here 2 years ago (with a 1 year break due to HCW being busy during the rona peak) and heard stuff about Luna but not sure who is the bully or something. Lulu was one of the bully I guess?

>>28758083
Because this is SEA you fucking nigger. SEA people don't watch live stream unless it's on the national scale.

>>28759093
You mean numbers go up, numbers go down, you can't explain that. Praise the lord.

>>28759072
the whole thing is basically a confidence scam, if you're seen to be doing well, people are more willing to pay more to own a piece of your stock, if you're doing poorly, people are more willing to sell your stock at lower prices, but don't let the elites know about that

>>28758896
>>28758870
Given that literally everyone this wave is above 100k subs, I'm willing to guess they just threw out all applications below that sub count. Easy way to filter out a bunch of applications into a smaller pool. Feels kinda shitty, some of the people currently in NijiEN would not have made it in using this threshold.
Also, it would be funny if some of the StarsEN guesses are right because it means HoloEN is hiring smaller content creators than NijiEN. I guess it does make sense because Holostars is a dead brand and anyone applying is going to be taking a bigger risk

>>28759007
It's literally something someone on /hlg/ made up years ago that retarded EOPs ran with ever since

>>28758590
I like Selen.

>>28759182
eh, I wouldn't blame them for that, they probably got thousands of applicants after luxiem blew up and they need a way to filter them out somehow, and subcount is as good a metric as any
At least this way you won't end up with a dud like Yugo who has a large body of content creation but can't stream to save her life

>>28758868
>But their twitter interactions are not giving me much hope and it feels like NijiEN is pivoting hard towards normalfags and western style "vtubers".
That's why I was wondering what the fuck they were thinking with those hires. I actually prefer Mori being a retard in her tweets over what I've been seeing from NijiEN6 because at least I can laugh at Mori. NijiEN6 just disgusts me.

>>28759126
Nah, there were some narratives that Sasaki bullied Luna out of Niji. I think they started on 5ch and spread over here and people took it as gospel. She's an ass which is why some people thinks it holds water. I think the other one the narrative said was bullying her was Shiina? I don't recall anymore, but Shiina is also human trash by her own admission so some people also took it and ran.
>>28759060 (me)
I should say the anon that posted the Sushi clip isn't me, I just also have it saved.

>>28759200
Nijicope

>>28758739
Multiple Holo clip channel used to be Nijishill channel. But because Niji is a flop on the international scale, they all turned into Holo clippers and throw Niji into the trash bin. But there're some delusional giga faggot like Neko Mikuri, who dedicated his life to translate Big Holo event just to shill Niji like Ars in between because somehow he thinks that will convert nousagis into watching Niji

>>28758433
The only male looking chuuba is going to need to carry the branch hard

>>28759182
Despite what people say, the sub threshold for joining hololive isn't really such an enforced thing even though it might look like it with some of the big ones

Why do nijikeks hate Finana?
Even after the discord leak
We holochads still like her because we all know she just felt a little frustrated after being rejected by hololive.
But she still likes hololive, she even mentioned Kiara today

>>28758985
>>28759020
kek

https://magnidezmond.carrd.co/

Holy shit, /mag/ is making a countdown for Magni. The dedication of that thread is amazing.

>>28759182
This feels like they're literally trying to find the next Gura and Kronii and hoping for the best

>>28759295
Sweeto can't even save his own reclined channel. But I guess that's why he join Niji for a fresh start

>>28759247
Oh well it is just a rumor no wonder it doesn't stick.

>>28759182
>Filtering
If that's the case they need more than just hiring from a pool of 100k sub applicants because that's still within the range of absolute stinkers and duds.

>>28758433
I wouldnt be surprised if the viet one speed runs finanas route of getting groomed by discord paypigs 1 month after monetization.

>>28759360
anon that's a template website. You can literally whip it up in five minutes by just going to https://carrd.co/

Can Kizuna Ai redebut as holo/niji?

>>28759360
Once a Mag, always a chad

>>28759316
Kobo wasn't even a content creator before joining Hololive I think.

>>28759316
threshold? one of the holox girls still has her old channel up and she doesn't even have 30k subs

Why do people keep saying Fianna got groomed?

I have no love for Holo management but their scouts are the best in the industry. Even Sana, who I thought was a bad hire (she technically still is but for a different reason now) has shown herself to be an entertaining streamer though she's graduating soon. Kinda gives me a bit of confidence that Tempus and HoloEN3 will at least be somewhat good.

>>28759316
I can see why people get that impression given that some of them like Gura, Kronii, and Mumei had really high sub counts before debut, but then you see that Hololive hired people like Ame, Kiara, and Bae who were significantly smaller.

>>28759556
So far, it seems like StarsEN possesses entertaining people that do not pander too much to any crowd. That's a good start.

>>28759556
Councils are all bad hires though. They are all lazy not just Sana.

>>28759316
Some don't have even have YT channels or were twitch shitters
Ame was a big surprise, being barely in 3-view territory, possibly 2-view during the application process

So what are teasharts using as cope to explain their runt not breaking 10k even after the Ina funnel?

>>28759316
What do you mean by sub threshold for hololive? Aren't two of the HoloX members PL less than 50k?

>>28759556
Mag WILL be the chosen one

>>28759643
heya selennigger

>>28759619
nope

>>28759556
Maes me wonder what the hell the niji scouts are smoking, many of these applicants they bring in are absolutely trash at first, second and third glance.

>>28759465
because they don't want to believe that the finana they fall in love with could really be an sjw underneath all that

>>28757660
nigger they wiped the /uoh/ general.
don't tell me there isn't an agenda.

the replies under mag's tweet...

Uh, why is /mag/ still going faster than /NijiEN/?

>>28759726
Because Nijisanji isn't hololive. Someday you guys will understand that

>>28759762
The /mag/gening is inevitible

>>28758538
Someone actually bought lol. Thanks, what I need. I'm gonna sell.

>>28758709
Sushi is ok, although a bit jumpy on the subs with sometimes bad english

Otaknigger got called out by Cover themselves because of subbing shit wrong and instigating drama.

>>28759697
Yes

>>28759769
>Nijisanji isn't hololive, therefore they hire trash
Really, that's the excuse you're going with?

>>28759619
NIjiseethe

>>28759726
Niji's strategy has always been different, even in the JP branch.

>>28759762
/mag/ging is inevitable

>>28759810
>Nijisanji isn't hololive, therefore they hire trash
Really, that's the excuse you're going with?

>>28759798
that's not an excuse but reality. What hololive wants isnt the same as nijisanji wants.

>>28758452
> I don't remember the first 3 waves being this blatant.
We warned you niggers more than a year ago about where this road was going >>4180162

>>28759789
Any other good EN translation clippers? I am always offered clippers of my own language only most of the time.

>>28759789
Also otakmori is clipping notrushia now like the giant faggot he is

>>28759754
Kek MAGmaggedon

>>28759643
kek

>>28759619
no anon, i know you are shitposting, but councils made a great sidekick and solos, them along with myth and hope are the embodiment of "cute girls doing cute tings". Remember the first ever SNOT cast that happens after they played devour? it was ridiculously entertaining and they did that without bringing sex/toilet jokes or any SJW twittards jokes. One thing that i noticed is Kronmeirys are really good at zatsudan rather than them gaming

>>28759754
Imagine how crazy his chat will be during his debut

>>28759878
anon if you know he's shitposting why are you bothering to effortpost?

>>28759825
agreed
holo only is like this for EN because they likely have rules. in niji they seem to be allowed to do what they want and say what they want unless it break rules

>>28759403
As Kizuna Ai? She'd need to acquire the rights to the IP from Activ8. Good luck with that.
As anyone else? Probably after her non-compete ends.

>>28755728
just wait until wave 6 cannibalizes more of her audience, then wave 7, then wave 8 etc.

>>28759878
>they did that without bringing sex/toilet jokes or any SJW twittards jokes
Damn that is a pretty low standard.

>>28759072
legal gambling

>>28759556
>scouts
Anon people come to them, not the other way around. When it comes down to the selection process you wouldn't know if they're doing a good job anyway since you'll never hear about the people that got turned down over the current roster. What Hololive does have is the privilege of being the biggest company and having all the biggest and bestest candidates applying to them over their competition, if they couldn't pick something good out of that they'd just be plain incompetent.
Plus with Sana it was just a case of shitty management in that they allowed her a 1 month break supposedly over her dog's death and ever since she lagged behind her genmates and didn't stream for other reasons. If anything her graduation is her admitting that vtubing and being expected to stream regularly wasn't for her.

>>28759126

>>28759958
None of this is related to cannibalization of her audience but her game choice. Her usual numbers arent like that, she only gets it a few times with bad choices.
This has been happening since only lazulight existed

>>28760035
Yes, NijiEN6 will bring in a new wave of fans from Zambia, Ivory Coast and the Madagascar. Get ready for NijiEN6 global domination.

>>28760018
>Sasaki brings in a lot of money
Really?
>Nijisanji has the best management
>2020
Probably true at that time so gonna give the poster that.

>>28759976
And yet that would still put them above 90% of EN vtubers, such a sad state we are in.

Iluna is doing wonders for Anykara's stock. Up 6% today. Expect more waves in the near future.

>>28759976
because nijien does that all the time, so finding en chuubas that doesn't pander to that while still getting tons of audience is something else

>>28760018
>best management in the market
Do you really believe?