/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>2872799
Why is EN management so fucking retarded? EN would be way more fun if they could just do what they wanted

>>2872799
>holo EN is more restricted
in pretty much every way minus their verbal content. Remember that Ame said "the coom", then Gura literally had her Mon Hun game time called "meat spin lol"

Seems the ONE place the EN girls are free to stretch their legs relatively is language department

>>2872911
They're part of cover.
Cover cannot be competent ever.

>>2872799
Kid friendly = advertiser friendly
They want ad rolls on the VODS and high payout ads typically don't want excessive swearing in the video. It's why vloggers and react channels censor F word in the first minute then leave it in after the one minute mark. The algorithm usually scans the first minute of audio then only looks for nudity in the entirety. This is why Mel and Choco would get banned when ther tits looked like naked ass to the bot.

>EN is more restricted than holo JP for “cultural” reasons
how fucking dumb are they it more western if it was less restricted are they really that scared of twittertards

>>2872799
I feel like swearing a lot just comes across kind of trashy in English. Also I think youtube AI can detect swearing quite well in English too and demonetize videos based on it? So maybe they don't want them getting demonetized all the time.

>>2872911
They're right on the culture restraint due to youtube being run by kikes. Not their fault that they will get wiped out for daring to tell trannies / whatever to fuck off. Jewtube will also kill their channels for swearing and unlike with JP they dont speak Japanese so the audio filters will actually catch them

>>2872911
They think the same things that are considered yabs in Japan apply to the Western world. They also don't know what is and isn't out of line to native English speaking audiences so they are playing to really safe.

I would get an American that's fluent in JP to oversee things. Coco knows enough expats to make something happen.

>>2872911
If they don't put restrictions and one of the girls says something that could offend somebody and then spreads to twitter then it's going to be a big fucking problem

>>2872799
callis facial expressions rig is impressive as fuck jesas christ

>The first gen of a new branch has tighter restrictions

>Management is managing
Wow, fucking revolutionary. Would've never guessed a scenario like this would happen

>>2872799
Man, the EN management team is based as hell. They’re the only thing keeping most of EN from being VShojo-tier low-class street whores.

>>2873055
With the exception of Ina, the EN girls are in fact tards that need to be wrangled so good job as always Enma.

>>2872979
>are they really that scared of twittertards
Yes. Twitter makes Japanese think we're offended by everything and don't realize it's a small minority screaming in an echochamber.
>>2872994
This. EN girls don't think in a business sense.

>>2872911
>Why is EN management so fucking retarded? EN would be way more fun if they could just do what they wanted
The box posters on reddit love their sterile, corporate, family friendly entertainment

As they should be. Twitter trannies can destroy your advertising potential and YouTube detects English yab words much easier than Japanese. Corporate streamers have to tow the company line

>>2873055
Like Spics on Sticks Gawr Gura?
>>2873109
Ina is the only Asian and also has an actual professional career.

>>2872969
I said before that I thought it was party for EN sponsorships when considering how politically correct the US is becoming; however, considering the amount of money the streamers make from superchats, it seems unnecessary. I wonder if this also is partly why EN management makes it somewhat harder to collab with JP (especially certain JP) perhaps thinking that JP is a bad influence on EN.

>>2873118
>corporate
>family friendly
Nigger do you even watch Hololive?

>>2873055
That sounds like a job for EN2.

if i was in charge

Let CocoCalli/Orange Women collabs happen
Fire gura
Let them play whatever games they want, send insults on twitter at any company who dares complain
tell Ina to stop being asian

>>2873055
>If they don't put restrictions and one of the girls says something that could offend somebody and then spreads to twitter
Can’t they just ignore it?

The irony is they always tack on rules to EN because their ID and JP girls just keep piling shit on
>"You don't mind if i piss off the entirety of China, do ya yagoo?"-Coco - Leads to EN having absolutely 0 references or conversation of any geography
>"It cool if we go on a harem yuri loving spree and turn all the first 4 gens into a revolving doors of sluts and degen?" - Marine and friends - 3/5 of the EN girls are tens of thousands of miles away from one another and the other 2/5 in JP are heavily policed by JENMa and JChad, also they scarcely meet in person with other JP girls
>"You don't mind if we blatantly disregard what our managers tell us to do, and we pull our weight to force Managers out instead of us being reined in?" - Haachama, Ollie, and Coco - ENMa, JENMa and JChad are only "cool" in storytelling, but actually have an exceedingly short leash for the girls and upper Management hard no's any semblance of grey area content (Gura having to manually censor DMC for fear of being punished comes to mind)
>"Oh hey, we're just gonna collab with anyone we want to, don't mind us" - JP and ID as a whole - EN can't collab with anyone outside of pre-approved Holo girls (Ina collabing with Pochi seemed to be the only green light"

>>2873119
>Twitter trannies can destroy your advertising potential
They can still get superchats. Besides why let them ruin everything?

>>2873174
>we could have lived in a world where snuffy and veibae were EN 2 to utterly shatter any hope of Yagoo having a tame portion of his Hololive girls

>>2873167
I think EN management is afraid of the sexual stuff that certain Holomem talk about freely that newfags will freak out about when they watch a translated clip. Remember when, a few months ago, vtweeters were trying to blow up a year old clip of Matsuri talking about lolis in order to cancel her. They failed because it's all in Japanese but if she were alongside an EN girl, it would give ammo to SJWs to cancel the EN Holo.

>>2873344
>a year old clip of Matsuri talking about lolis
If those trannies actually watched Matsuri, they'd realize you can get fresh clips on the daily with regards to loli and Matsuri

>>2873284
ID and JP arent doing anything wrong, EN management is just a bunch of janny faggots

>>2873395
>Watching Anya die a slow death because no one forces her to at least play 1 popular game
>Ollie getting eaten on/banged on stream
Then again, if you culled those 2 girls, ID would be great. Reine must be protected at all costs

>>2873344
>Remember when, a few months ago, vtweeters were trying to blow up a year old clip of Matsuri talking about lolis in order to cancel her. They failed because it's all in Japanese
But I would still prefer for EN to be treated the same as JP, while Holo can just let the Twitter mob cry about it.

>>2873304
The concern is being demonetized by youtube itself, which HAS happened to multiple Hololive girls even without twitter tranny intervention. Youtube is an orwellian police state that is constantly cranking up the bullshit. The real solution is needing to get the fuck off jewtube but that has its own list of problems.

>>2873314
I just can't see western girls acting like proper kouhai to other western girls. There is going to be drama, especially if someone was accepted into EN2 after trying to get into Myth.

>>2873314
The Yagoo's dream thing is an EOP dead horse. He couldn't give a shit how seiso the girls are or are not. All that matters is they're successful and make the company more money. If Sora says seiso isn't important, it's not important.
>>2873389
Half the Holos have mentioned liking loli to some extent(PPT, Shion, Flare) buy Matsuri is basically Japanese girl Joe Biden so it's easy to use her as an example of inappropriate behavior.

>>2873284
What the hell does Holo management even do anyways? The girls do most of the heavy lifting, they went out of their way to fail Coco leaving her to do pick up the heavy lifting when the bugmen came, and they're slow as fuck when it comes to permissions.

>>2873566
EOPs don't even know what AKB48 even do. They just assume they're sterile, child friendly idols.

>>2873553
Not feasible right now but Cover needs to look for a long term solution. Susan is toying with them now with sudden banned streams and demonetization but the time will come when they'll be purged for the slightest un-PC utterance. Coco and Pekora will be early victims.

>>2873620
>What the hell does Holo management even do anyways? The girls do most of the heavy lifting
They gave them exposure. Then they get money for it. My only gripe is I want EN to be less restricted. If one of them goes down, let it be on them.

>>2873620
They are your typical american/western management. Fuck tons of people who are inherently worthless, telling the actual talent what to do "or else"

ENMa and JENMa used to get the rights to games for the girls, but now that they're so large, companies reach out to Hololive directly (to which is staffed fully) or do social media to reach out to the talent

The manager-kuns know this, so they "offer" to schedule shit for the talent, but again, a faux pas of work and relevancy since all Hololive shares a discord server and they apparently set shit up just fine on their own

>>2873661
>Hololive was 2 years to late to instantly launch Mixer to the moon and back with their talents

>>2873530
Unlike Japan western companies take Twitter mobs seriously. Cover wants EN to advertise Shadowverse, Taiko no Tatsujin, Priconne and these opportunities dry up when the Twitter sjws latch on to a clip and go cancel mode. Cover had to close CN because bugs are autistic, Twitter sjws have the same autism in a different package.

>>2873658
All I know is Reddit won't shut up about it so it proliferates from there to Coco's meme reviews, and out into the general newfag populace. I'm sure the JOPs are confounded as to why Kaigainiki are so obsessed with Tanigou-san.

>>2873721
Ah yes, trading out one totalitarian jew for another. Microsoft is just as if not more evil than Youtube could ever be.

>>2872799
>>2872911
Fuck off faggots, if they did what you are proposing there would be literal tranny streams.

>>2873792
2 years ago Mixer was Mixer, it's BECAUSE of microshit that it died a painful death after laundering money around
>Here ninja, have 6 million dollars lol
>Anyways, shutting mixer down, kthxbye

>>2873620
Exposure, sponsors, merch, and they manage their accounts.
Mori/Kiara got sponsored by Shadowverse for 3-4 streams recently. Along with the Priconne sponsorship stuff earlier this year.

>>2873792
Who is going to be the one to make a streaming platform just for chuubas?

>>2873661
>Not feasible right now but Cover needs to look for a long term solution
They could really capitalize on the vtuber trend and just make a vtuber exclusive streaming platform like how Twitch is for videogames. Owning the platform where products are sold is way more lucrative than just producing the product, see Valve and Steam.

It's to keep Youtube from acting like a jew.

>>2873826
Mixer tried so hard to look like a "cool gamer website" that it made me cringe.

>>2873823
What's wrong with that? There are talented trannies out there

>>2873900
that was Bill Gates pumping it up for a quick cash grab. That being said, hard to appeal to a gimmick that isn't gaming since streaming only really works intrinsically for gamers

>>2873304
Because capitalism

>>2873681
>They gave them exposure
The brand gives them exposure. As far as I can tell the managers do fuck all. Cover has a massive middle management bloat problem. How much cash are they wasting on paying the salary of absolutely worthless managers? There should be 1 manager per 4 girls at the absolute maximum. They don't have all that much to do and they're a waste of money.

>>2872799
Yet, Calli's outro still does that "Fuck it" music

>>2873869
From Yagoo's interview in January

>>2873823
>the trannies on Twitter requiring Holo to be censored, reduces them.
Huh. It’s obeying them.

>>2873933
>talented
>trannys
Anon no matter how many times your “friends” have told you mutilating your genitals was and is not a talent

>>2873249
Based

Matsuri has stated the she got scolded at repeatedly even for small shit like hitting her desk since that wasnt the image the company wanted at the time. Why should anyone be surprised? Its a new branch.

>>2873869
It's honestly hilarious how badly YT constantly fucks up and basically laughs it off. They only even began to sweat when Korone went to Twitch because she was done with YT For the day

>>2873858
I don't think anyone has the stones to do so, and anyone that does will have their payment processors decline them because otherwise media might not be controlled by jews

>>2873858

>>2873249
a minor correction
>tell Ina to stop being asian
>Fly Ina to my office in a tight fitting Qipao and see how long a bottle of Viagra infused smoothies lasts me with her****

>>2874017
>having tranny streams is not being censored
Imagine this low of an iq

>>2874126
Donnie probably considered it at least once, since Baron is the ultimate recluse

>>2873976
>The brand gives them exposure. As far as I can tell the managers do fuck all.
They seem to require that holo EN streamers notify them in order to simply stream with holo JP. They shouldn’t require approval for collabs WITHIN Hololive. So obviously it’s to do with cultural reasons, or whatnot. I cannot think of another reason to be that restrictive. So yeah, EN management sucks.

>>2874191
>the underage son of the Don doesn't have a social presence.
Who is his oshi?

>>2873117
>small minority screaming in an echochamber.
Unfortunately that echochamber is filled with journalists, advertisers, and corporations who never realized that sane people quit that shit long ago.

>>2874284
Ame or Gura if he's pleb tier. Knowing his bloodline, he has superior, if not supreme tastes, and as such knows Reine is the perfect girl and is planning to see her and pledge his love

>>2874003
Well there you go. Cover will need to hire actual decent software devs to make it happen though, the fact they still have tech problems like Nene starting 3D at 10FPS makes me skeptical about whether they can pull it off.

>>2873174
>Hire a bunch or girls to become variety streamer
>lack variety

EN2 cant come soon enough

>>2874003
Good idea, Yagoo.
>>2874090
It took a year when Gen 3 debuted and Rushia started banging her desk to make management stop bothering her about it. With the size and strength of Hololive today, they shouldn't worry about insignificant shit. Look at ID, Ollie and Moona just do whatever and still keep gaining subs. A yab for JP girls isn't a yab for other branches.
>>2874315
They're aware. You're not aware that those journos, advertisers, and corporations are apart of that echo chamber and agree with it.

>>2874094
>They only even began to sweat when Korone went to Twitch because she was done with YT For the day
Can you elaborate on this?

>>2874421
They were variety for a while, problem with the numbers game is you start going with what works
>Gura was the casual, but lovable dorky girl playing nintendo games
>Ame was the salty girl who played online comp games
>Kiara was the high maintanence, preppy girl who played ultra casual games
>Calli was variety music (honestly why did she never do rockband or guitar hero)
>Ina still is the variety art girl, but has given way to collab games

>>2874389
Japan doesn't understand networking technology in the slightest, they have no concept of it due to living on a tiny island.

>>2874478
Youtube was shadowbanning a lot of talents and lagging out the ass some 4-6 weeks ago. Korone had tried being patient for a while but eventually said it was impossible and went to twitch for the remainder of her stream. Seemingly immediately after this was "the news" Youtube fixed all their problems within a few hours and Holo told Korone to go back off camera

>>2874478
Korone only threatened to go to Twitch, she never actually streamed there a far as I know.
Miko does watch alongs on Twitch and also did a guerilla MC stream.

>>2872799
ID needs an management like that.

>>2874624
No, ID needs to have Ollie move in with Anya or Reine so she can learn how to not be a god damn floor mat for any male streamer

>>2872799
Sucks that theyre too passive. Truthfully EN has Cover by the balls, 3 of them have 1 million subs or more and the other two are closing in on it. Further EN will be the largest growth segment for Cover for at least the next 2-3 years. If EN was united on this stuff (Allowing Coco to stream, allowing indie streams, getting better permissions) Cover would cave quickly

>>2874791
And why would they want that? It's not like they're being enslaved and have to work against their will, it's basically the opposite, they're in an incredibly comfortable place already

>>2874791
Coco doesn't do herself any favors, and more than likely would be told to decline if all 5 of the EN girls tried to force a move
Coco's good and fun, but she's also a headache for management

>>2873858
>Who is going to be the one to make a streaming platform just for chuubas?
Odysee or Bitchute as soon as they implement livestreaming. Which will be any day now. Just believe in the plan. Its going to happen really; no hopium.

EN is already reclining hard because of their shitty rules.

>>2874501
You can still vary it up, Myth shown what there capable of and what there interested in. There are no more surprises with them anymore. Hopefully gen 2 has people with completely different interests, expertise and personality.

>>2873304
Because a 35% cut of super chats won't cover the salary of 140 staff members and office rent.

>>2872911
I wonder how 4chan would react to holo doing what they want.

>>2873055
cancel culture is not even real, all those people complaining will forget the next week

>>2875640
Sperg out and cry for management to do something.

>>2875640
The fact Enma makes reddit trannies so angry because she blocks any attempt to collab with clout chasing ecelebs is one of the only good things about EN

You faggots are clearly newfags since the management is the main reason why the trainwreck everyone was expecting didn't happen.
Fuck twitch faggots and their """""culture"""""
Fuck animetubers and their endless shilling
Fuck the attention whores from twitters

>>2875856
Basically this, for all the bitching about EN management they do some things 1000% right, some things I wouldn't have even expected them to understand the repercussions of - but they do, or at least Enma or whoever makes those calls to give the finger to eceleb clout chasers is. Bless that person's soul.

>>2872799
This is normal , every youtuber does this, advertisers don't like videos with a lot of swearing.

>>2873869
I mean, they'll be operating at a loss for a couple of years, all things considered. Its tempting but very risky given the upfront cost and time to recover the investment if it goes well.

>>2875879
based as fuck

>>2872799
>holo EN is more restricted than holo JP for “cultural” reasons
Cancel culture that is. God I hope hololive's defenses against entryism are good.

>>2875879
Based

>>2872950
Maybe that's because cover management is primarily ESL or otherwise not native english speakers. So they only notice (and discourage) the easy to spot obvious "bad words" like fuck, shit, etc., but "coded" speak that'd require some deeper familiarity with english internet meme culture (like you said, "coom", "meat spin" etc.) tends to fly over their heads and get through.

>>2873553
Kiara has always been the canary in the coal mine when it comes to swearing, and she hasn't had any issues aside from that one time which seemed to be unrelated.

>>2875879
This is your brain when youre not an edgy manchild who needs to hear swearing 24/7.

>>2875879
This.

Why the fuck do tourists want the hololive girls to become no better than the twitch slut pieces of scum you can find on the internet literally anywhere else?
They should just stop watching hololive if they don't like it instead of trying to push their anti-idol pro-twitch/reddit culture on them.

Fucking westerners, man.

>>2872799
>>2872911
>Why is EN management so fucking retarded? EN would be way more fun if they could just do what they wanted

I won't argue that the restrictions right now do seem overly strict and they could afford to ease up some on the nofunallowed, but on the other hand, no one would want EN to devolve into the peepeepoopoo dicksinvagene shit that most of us rightfully abhor about V***jo, for example.

Not that I think any of the girls is really the type to let loose that way (I mean, we know their previous content and that even with less regulation none of them were really all that crass all the time anyway), but there needs to be a reasonable middleground between freedom of expression / "creativity" (if you want to call it that, just swearing by itself is often a poor substitute) and rules that, at the very least, also serve to protect the talent itself.

>>2876288
Stop being a retard anon. I'd like them to not be afraid of doing things because of cancel culture. They shouldn't be outright whores but they should atleast be able to be treated like JPs, you know the most successful branch in the business.

>>2873268
Twitter trannoids are the zhang of the west.

>>2873167
>I wonder if this also is partly why EN management makes it somewhat harder to collab with JP (especially certain JP) perhaps thinking that JP is a bad influence on EN.

If that were the case, it'd be an amazing irony, because one of the greatest fears by anons here in the runup to EN was "oh no those dirty western whores will certainly pollute our nice JP girls, we can't have that, separate them as much as possible!".Oh how the turns have tabled.

>>2872799
Thank you ENMA

>>2875856
Enma is there mainly to prevent offending the Twitter mob. That’s how manage runs things mainly, to keep the peace. I mean obviously Hololive doesn’t like collaborating outside of their business (keeping the money to themselves), but the family friendly side is meant to prevent offending the Twitter mob.

>>2875750
Yeah but corporates like Cover believes otherwise, hence the whole Marine and Miko apology shit.

>>2875104
I don't think anyone but small companies and independents are going to livestream on those platforms cause what will happen is that every other large instatution or company will blacklist you. The only way a platforms like that grow is that uber talented people and companies sacrifice thier full monetization ie sponsorships in hopes of growing the platform

>>2872799
>>2872911
Just watch regular female streamers then.

>>2876288
the people asking for this are mostly vtrannies

>>2877648
I already do? What's your point?

>>2875879
>>2876237
>>2876288
based opinions

>Build your brand off having little to no restrictions when it comes to content.
>Suddenly restrict certain content to become more corporate and family friendly
Hololive Sold out for even more money.

>>2878057
how suddenly are we talking about? holoEN started restricted already

>>2877617
Well EN can start an artist gen so they can utilize sites like Picarto and Piczel. They can get away with alot more on those sites

>>2874372
>Knowing his bloodline, he has superior, if not supreme tastes
You need to get those cocks out of your ass and the boot out of your mouth, my dude.

The issue is not what they can get away with on the site it's what rules the sponsors play by that keeps them from going on those sites and limits what the girls can do. Like i would bet that the hololive EN girls would be closer to snuffy than vshojo if they lifted thier restrictions. Cause they all have enough tact as internet personalities to know thier worth and thier place aside with mori who seems like she is just thirsty for fame and clout.

>>2872911
all their decisions make sense when you realize they want the chinese market.

>>2875104
Are they right wing platform like Parler? Because if they are, they will ban chuubas. They felt for the lie "anime is for trannies" to cuck them from based entertainment.

>>2872950
>"meat spin lol" is an act of rebellion
>that's why jt hasn't been changed yet
DEEPEST
LORE

>>2873304
Superchats are worthless next to ad revenue

>>2878057
>>Build your brand off having little to no restrictions when it comes to content.

>>2879726
Lmao, they left the Chinese market

>>2872911
Jesus, thank got they have reins on them. Imagine if they could collab with fucking Vshoujo, Tsunderia, or any other agency like that.
Thank god they can't. It'd be just as degenerate as working with a porn company, essentially.

>Gura having meltdown during amongus in second collab with JP
>Mori wanting collab with some manlet
>chicken is unlimited menhera works
>EN fanbase in general
Have you ever seen EN chat? Have you ever seen EN twitter? If I were their manager I would do the same thing.

If they don't like it they're free to join vshojo at any time. I'm sure plenty of people would kill for the opportunity they have right now.

>>2880104
What's wrong with tsunderia? From the few streams I checked out, they rather seem to keep it remarkably clean or at least comparable to standard Hololive behavior, and they're definetly not part of the peepeepoopoo cesspit that plagues much of the rest of the ENtuber scene (Vshojo being the prime offender here). In fact, the worst I've seen said about Tsunderia is rather that their conduct makes them "too boring" instead, but never that they're just another degenerate pornmonger.

But nevertheless, evein if they could collab with Tsunderia, I don't think HoloEN would do it anyways. Not because they're too bad, but rather just because they're too small, so there would be no benefit to it.

>>2873304
Their superchat revenue could increase by 10x and it still wouldn't come close to what they would make in adsense revenue. Adsense revenue is essentially multiplactive, the more viewers you have the more money you make from it and when you have 800,000-1,500,000 unique viewers watching Holoproduction streams and VODs everyday you're literally selfcucking by swearing as it grossly cuts down your adsense revenue since big brands like Coke or McDonald's don't want to have their ads run on a VOD with excessive swearing, violence, nudity, or other controversial elements as it'll be bad for their brand.

Is this another thread where people misinterpret what she said. Swearing is allowed but in excess like an unfunny comedian like Amy Schumer is a little too much. Also, this incident happened during the phasmophobia stream from last year and doesn't really address current management with much worse swearing in comparison with the ollie collab she mentioned. Add on another layer that this is from a member stream she released from membership only so you're just dreading up drama several months twiced removed. There are management problems but it really falls into 2 categories: EN being too restrictive or JP being too protective. It could be both but we'll never likely get the answers unless we implant and inside man instead of relying on bread crumbs to make bread pudding out of it.

>>2872799
Good

Fucking whores being taught how to behave like humans

>>2872911
Kill yourself you suffer mental retardation

>Good
>Fucking whores being taught how to behave like humans

>>2880658
>Im too beta to quite catch a point of view that isnt letting whores do whorish stuff
>better POLjack someone with better reasoning than me

Incel-chama....

>>2880104
Don't make it so blatantly obvious that you never watched Tsunderia or any other vtuber group.

>>2874562
Based dog

>>2872799
good. Western women needs to be restricted because of their natural tendencies to be a fucking whore.

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>good. Western women needs to be restricted because of their natural tendencies to be a fucking whore.

>>2881080
you will never have the whores attention, leftist

>>2881080
You havent banged many women or you either are too retarded to understand the way they work kek

>I.. MUSSTTUR...RU.. POLJACK YOUUUU WOMEN ARE BRAVE AND VALID!!

>you will never have the whores attention, leftist

>>2881127
I mean he's a leftist. Of course he's going to normalize whorish behavior and degeneracy for the sake of "freedom". Just look at his coward behavior refusing to confront everyone directly and just tries to be passive aggressive like a fucking cuck coward he is

>>2875879
based

It's not that western women are whores, it's that all women are whores. The japanese have a severe infidelity epidemic.

>>2881135
thats exactly how you look unironically

>>2879726
Anon, I think you're a bit too late.

>>2881164
Its not even "HIS" will, the creature just obeys whatever hes told to believe

Actual 0 observation skills and not a will to learn is what causes this type of mental retardation

The most he can do is save wojacks and try to go agaisnt people with better reasoning than him

>I mean he's a leftist. Of course he's going to normalize whorish behavior and degeneracy for the sake of "freedom". Just look at his coward behavior refusing to confront everyone directly and just tries to be passive aggressive like a fucking cuck coward he is

>>2881184
Its because as there are barely any worth female in the bunch, for w*men there are barely any worth attractive males...

The current existential crisis normies go through...

>Its not even "HIS" will, the creature just obeys whatever hes told to believe
>Actual 0 observation skills and not a will to learn is what causes this type of mental retardation
>The most he can do is save wojacks and try to go agaisnt people with better reasoning than him

>>2881225
Which is extremely ironic because wojak is used to insult coward like him before they hilariously missed the point and misused the meme because they have 0 clue how to think creatively themselves.

>>2881234
Youre either baiting or too mentally deluded to accept the truth kek

In anyway kill yourself

And here comes the SEAnigger with his wojakposting.

>And here comes the SEAnigger with his wojakposting.

>wojakposter in
>thread instantly go to shit
every fucking time.

>>2881258
>LET MUH WHORES BE
>YOURE A BAAD PERSON AND WROONG
>I LOOOVE WOMEN
>IM GONNA WOOJACKK YOUUUUU

>>2872799
Thank god for Enma and good EN management.

>>2872911
Define more fun. What are they being stopped from doing that if they were allowed, the streams would be more fun?

>>2874562
This didn't happen. Either you fell for misinformation or are actually a schizo.
Korone wanted to stream when youtube was being buggy for everyone for a few days already and it kept lagging so she cancelled it after a short while. Later she said maybe she'll try twitch on twitter but she never did. They fixed it later because it was a site wide problem, not because a japanese dog said something.

>>2880064
>>2881222
I think you're underestimating chink's control on western media.
all these moves to cause friction and not letting EN to freely collab with JP girls is EN branch sending a signal that they like the chinese market and will have autonomy from JP branch.

I dont think you realize how business decisions work and how companies send indirect messages to each other.

>>2881259
Yeah thats the first thing that makes it funny, this fucking SEAnigger wojack poster... is just posting himself

>>LET MUH WHORES BE
>>YOURE A BAAD PERSON AND WROONG
>>I LOOOVE WOMEN
>>IM GONNA WOOJACKK YOUUUUU

>>2881433
Oh yeah, the chinks are behind everything. Makes sense.

>Yeah thats the first thing that makes it funny, this fucking SEAnigger wojack poster... is just posting himself

>>2881463
Yep exactly

Quite funny
>i post wojacks
>but it is myself who i post
this is just mental illness

>Yep exactly

>Quite funny
>>i post wojacks
>>but it is myself who i post
>this is just mental illness

please dumb youre entire wojack folder

>>Quite funny
>>>i post wojacks
>>>but it is myself who i post
>>this is just mental illness

LMAO fuck this guy.

This thread is ruined.

>>2878221
dial 8

>>2881586
>>>Quite funny
>>>>i post wojacks
>>>>but it is myself who i post
>>>this is just mental illness

>>>>Quite funny
>>>>>i post wojacks
>>>>>but it is myself who i post
>>>>this is just mental illness

>>2872799
Why would they want it kid friendly?
Pro tip to EN menagers guys. KIDS HAS NO MONEY to spasm Aka SC ect.

>>2881577
Holy shit my accent came out in writting format
im wojack

>Holy shit my accent came out in writting format
>im wojack

>WOMEN ARE NOT WHORES

>how could they say the women are whores
>i shall wojack them

>>2872911
They're doing a fine job at keeping the undesirables away, good enough for me.

>>2872799
why would i watch someone say fuck for like every 5 seconds, r u retarded op?

>>2872799
>holo EN is more restricted than holo JP for “cultural” reasons
good

>>2880104
That would be horrible

>>2872799
americans are chink-lites when it comes to getting mad on the internet.

>>2881912
>frequently instigate riots with out-of-context videos disseminated by race hustlers and communists
Americans or Chinese?

>>2872911
Restrictions aren't necessarily bad anon
P-san is fucking retard though, he actually think that calling holos by their gens is segregating them and showing favoritism or some shit

the final yab will be one of the girls blowing a whistle on terrible work conditions and treatment at hololive, the more you learn about the inner workings of this corporation the worse it seems

Being a part of an idol agency means abiding by idol agency rules. We've seen talents like Coco and Haachama get censored many times in the past, this is not an EN only thing. To act as an idol is to try to represent an ideal that could never be replicated by any normal person, and that requires having strict management.
I really think if this strict management style frustrates you guys, you'd be happier not following idols to begin with. Wait for NijiEN.

>>2882182
>forbids Calli from describing how wet her pussy is on stream
Why is Cover so oppressive?

>>2882327
you sound like a begger.Don't worry though they will get their own fandom.

>>2873098
Get out of her EnMa

>>2882488
No, I'm saying Cover isn't doing anything wrong in this instance and that anti-idolfags shouldn't watch idols.

>>2875750
You live in a fantasy world

>>2872799
>Twitter and Reddit are deathly afraid of lolicons/shotacons
>4chan is deathly afraid of Mori and Vshojo
>Japs are deathly afraid of MALES
>Chinks are deathly afraid of Coco
By keeping a short leash on them, they make most of them happy.

There are a couple obvious reasons for this OP. Youtube demonetizes videos for language, even something as silly as swear words. These can be disputed but ultimately they are troublesome to deal with and it makes perfect sense that Cover would want to avoid the hassle of disputed an automated system over and over again.

Second of all, assuming there's restrictions beyond language, western women should not be allowed to talk at all. So if you're a fan of the nerdcore rap retard you should be grateful because an unfiltered version would probably sound identical to something like a regular Twitch woman.

>>2875750

>>2872799
>holoen appealing to sjw
>not knowing that most sjws are mentally disabled ergo don't work so no moneys

get woke go broke

>>2882740
>western women should not be allowed to talk at all
*women should not be allowed to talk at all

Why do most of you care more about the brand the the talent? also why do you continually seethe at America so much? are you really all self hating Seadogs?

>>2882740
>an unfiltered version would probably sound identical to something like a regular Twitch woman
You know nothing

>>2882768
>Not being allowed to talk about politics is SJW pandering
Are you braindead, legitimately? Why do you want trannies to be discussed in Hololive?

>>2882740
Why do you assume hololive and twitch girls are any different? they both get tons of money from lonely men. i honestly don't see the difference.

>>2875750
>cancel culture is not even real
hahah you're right. its not real to toxic sjw base. but it is real to everyone else who is against them.

>>2882740
You will never be japanese

She's a wigger of course she loves to curse.

>>2872799
Based. Western whores need to be reined in.

If there weren't Japanese salarymen looming over them they'd probably start talking about George Floyd or Trans people or some shit. Be thankful.

>>2872799
>the reason your chuuba isn't banned or demonetized is management
K N E E L

>>2882835
The difference is Hololive girls have a leash on them that keeps them in line and acting well.
Twitch girls are like the dirty mutts running the streets with no training or rules to keep them orderly and professional. Eugh

>>2882795
>are you really all self hating Seadogs?
What do you think?

>>2872911
they should graduate and go indie

This thread smells of dog semen...

>>2882835
Twitch streamers are all either indies or bosses of their own companies, meaning the only oversight they have is Twitch corporate, and Amazon doesn't give a shit what they do.

>>2883013
The white girls are here?

>>2882941
Gura was a trainwreck before the based management team got a hold of her.

>>2873173
It is absolutely corporate and family friendly.

>>2873055
But this happens almost everyday in Nijisanji. A little bit of twitter flaming builds character for the talents.

>>2883467
Twitter shit gets forgotten so easily. Its only a problem when you apologize which Cover has a awful habit of doing for no reason.

>>2873389
Nigga do you even watch matuli? She has been toned down a lot. She's no longer the matuli from 2019

>>2874090
Do you have source for that

>>2880022
Yes. Earlier hololive was so free spirited that they were making Nijisanji look like a forced corporate group.(at the time Ichikara had some fuckery with branch collab bans) . It all went downhill after Gen 3

>>2883037
This thread is talking about white western girls, so yeah.

>>2882835
What's the difference between a drug dealer and a pharmacist ? They both sell drugs and chemicals to people who need it and earn money over it.

>>2872799
>I guess they were trying to make EN more kid friendly.
Or just having them swearing excessively doesn't make for good entertainment, and YouTube's voice recognition penalizes the creators using harsher language by lowering their priority in the algorithm, pushing fewer ads on their channels or demonetizing them completely. The last option is extremely unlikely to happen given how much cash Hololive as a company brings to YouTube's table, but it's still something to consider. It's just basic etiquette not to overuse crude language, but as you can see from this thread, Americans will make a mountain out of such a non-issue molehill, then blame it on the jews and some trannies seething on Twitter. As if either of those could ever be an as comparable financial factor for a Japanese company as the zhangs used to be. Fun times.

>>2875807
Hey, that sounds familiar...

>>2872911
>Why is EN management so fucking retarded? EN would be way more fun if they could just do what they wanted
HELL NO! Kiara would be leike Veibae if she was not held back by management.

>>2884422
But Veibae is actually funny

>>2884456
>benis
>vago
>benis in vago
>poop, benis and vago
hilarious...

>>2872911
God forbid that we have variety in the English Vtuber scene! No, every single one of them must be a permanently cussing whore!

>>2883882
Western whores are always offended when they get called out for what they are, whores.

>>2884676
That's women in general

>>2884713
nah normal women who still embraces traditionalism have self respect. Unlike western whores.

>Western whores are always offended when they get called out for what they are, whores.

>>2873055
More likely they would say something that would make 4chan and reddit sperg out

>>2881433
Western media =/= American media, USA media
You mean USA media

>>2873284
>Ina collabing with Pochi seemed to be the only green light"
That's because Enma is the only reasonable manager. Jenma, who manages Kiara Gura and Ame is the most retarded of them all. It's insane that Enma manages exclusively Ina, while the most yab Kiara and Ame, and to top it off Gura, are managed by one person- Jenma

>>2885134
I don't get how the financials of 1:1 management work anyway. Either the managers are making poverty wages or they're taking a huge cut of what the girls give to cover.

ITT: Vsho*ofags who think peepeepoopoo jokes are hilarious

>>2874501
>why did she never do rock band or guitar hero
Those games are entirely full of western music and boomer rock, no way in hell they'd ever get permission to play any of the songs without giving up 80% of their revenue for the stream

>>2884941
>Western media =/= American media, USA media
both are the same, I would say the EU is much more china dependent than USA but they're both compromised.

>>2881433
No, you're just a retarded schizo who thinks that HoloEN is walled off from JP (it isn't) so that they can collab with China (not the case).

Ina did a collab with Aki recently, and Kiara did a Holotalk with Suisei.
They're keeping EN away from Coco so that Coco's antis don't shit up EN's chats, because that could potentially put Cover in the middle of a geopolitical conflict.

It's bad enough that Coco is a US citizen, for starters.

>>2883065
>Gura needed EN management to tell her to stop drinking.
Nonsense. This excessive worship of management by some people is strange. They are clearly not above criticism.

>>2884596
I wasn't talking about Coco.

>>2887961
Wow it's that serious? That's such a zoomer way to progress towards WW3

>>2873976
>Japanese companies have a massive middle management bloat problem.
fixed that for ya

>>2887961
the fact that they're not touching coco is the reason why they're hinting to china that they want their market.

>>2888135
It's kinda a hololive problem. A little while ago they updated the corporate site and it showed they have nearly as much staff as Ichikara even though they have half the number of talents and fewer events. It's super bloated

>>2872799
Good cursing is masculine and Mori is a dumb fat cringe wigger

>>2872799
Good. Keep them on a tight leash so we don't get vshojo shit.

>>2888193
Is Ichikara making tech, games, anime and manga?

>>2876598
that's because the people on this board have never interacted with an actual woman before

>>2888300
Woah we got a Chad coming thru

>>2882327
It's an entertainment company.

JP doesn't collab with EN more because out of the 5 HoloENs only 2 know Japanese, and only one of those knows enough to hold a conversation beyond basic phrases. Gura doesn't care to collab with anyone, Ame is awkward and shy, Mori is a pathetic wigger that has been living in Japan yet doesn't know a lick of Japanese. Maybe because they're American they just assume the world must conform to their needs and it's the JP ones who need to learn english.

>>2888443
>Maybe because they're American they just assume the world must conform to their needs and it's the JP ones who need to learn english.
They probably just can't be bothered to try. I mean would you want to do any actual work when you can just play videogames games and get simpbux?

>>2888158
I don't believe this rrat. Chinks don't watch English language media.

>>2872799
I think restrictions are necessary when you are the most succesful vtuber group in the world that's trying to operate in a global scale.
Competitors will mass-report your stuff if it shows a hint of controversy, and bait you everytime they can.

>>2888586
There are HoloEN clips all over bilibili

>>2888586
>Chinks don't watch English language media
of course they dont. do you know what power is? its not because they'll watch EN, they want to restart CN branch again, ENMA is the way for them.

they dont need to watch western media, they just have to show them in good light and attack CCP's enemies, in this case coco who ENMA avoids to send a message to chinks.

>>2888704
Why do you incels hate China again?

>>2888807
>incels
>defends chinks
lel

>>2888862
That doesn't answer my question, racist

>>2872799
Daily reminder that Enma did nothing wrong and that Jenma is the person that people here actually hate.

>>2888896
>racist

>>2888807
Because they wont shut the fuck up

just watch indie vtubers

>>2875879
undoubtely based

ITT: retard schizos who dont understand how youtube decides on monetarization
it's russian roulette but not having curse words raises your chances to get money on the vod

>>2888297
Ichikara don't have plans.
Self proclaim "no.1 vtuber company'" for 3 years yet they didn't think anything else than making ton of money.I'd say they are worse than cover.

>>2872799
Now that I think about it maybe ENMA is actually based for limiting collabs. Most JP girls are shameless leeches that just want grab onto the most popular girls. Why do you think they talk about wanting to collab with Gura and Calli all the time but not much about Kiara even though she's actually fluent in Japanese and a better collab partners. (don't get the wrong idea I hate Kiara so much)

>>2873284
What happened with Coco was a FUCKING accident absolute mong.

The whole world isnt built for one sad country.

>>2889148
I'd like to watch them interact between each other.
I want Gura+Shion collab.

Censorship is good

I think it's funny that the video in the OP shows the exact reason why it's kind of nice to have them somewhat limited. There's a point in the video where Mori is screaming profanities with Ollie and that's a perfect example of "I don't know what to say, so lets fill it with swearing". This is a thing that most western Vtubers do and I feel like most of the EN crew would also do had they not been told to tone it down. One of the reasons I like Holo over other westen vtubers is the fact that for the most part they don't sling obscenities around constantly and it seems like they take more than a second to form the thought of whatever they want to currently speak on.

>>2889571
Shut the fuck up slave.

>>2875879
Based. Toe the line or walk the plank.

>>2876430
>I'd like them to not be afraid of doing things because of cancel culture.
Yeah, I'd like to hear what the orange woman thinks about the orange man.

>>2889160
Accidentally putting "if you didn't like it fuck u and never come back" at the end of the stream. You guys were calling it "yoooo based coco dabbing on the chinks" back then. Don't expect zhangs to buy that it was just a silly little accident

>>2873858
VTube Token. Donations with crypto and streamlabs integration are already secured

>>2889748

Censorship will kill you and and Hills so it's pretty good

>>2889748
If you want to see an uncensored women. Just watch any run if the mill Twitch thot. The entire point of Vtubers is them pretending to be feminine and demure instead of a generic foul mouthed roastie whore. That being said Hololive generally fails hard in that regard

>>2881433
it's the Chinks, goy!!!

>>2889894

Crypto! You faggots are trash!

>>2872799

>>2888079
>coco collabs with mori
>China launches a full-scale invasion on Taiwan

>>2889958
Don't you know the CEOs of all 6 major US film studios are Chinese...

>>2890008
Most women like to be told what to do. Mind you that's MOST.

>>2890006
Meh. Keep crying nocoiner.
Tomorrow's Tilde stream will change chubba monetization forever. Simps will be able to donate their shitcoin gains directly to their VTubers.

>>2889958
>oi gwailo, look at the hook-nosed peoples! We know nothing with this!

>>2890171
it's laughable to think the US media is controlled by an ethnic group other than jews

>>2890165

Nigga who is Tilde

>>2873553
If only there was a colossal massive agreement between Vtuber agencies, non kid pandering gamers and content creators alike, to fuck off from there and promote some other platform like Vimeo, or find some russian or middle eastern billionaire that could fund an entirely new platform free of their bullshit...

>>2890158
You mind if I blog?
I once got accused of sexual assault and all the dudes were praising me for it.
It really fucked me up cause I really liked the girl.
And I talked with my mom a few days ago about and she said that it might be that I it's because I didn't manhandle her she got pissed and accused me.

I was fucking appauled. Apparently my fault was in not touching the ass and exercising control. All that feminism shit is a lie and a woman told me that.

>>2889958
both are in on it, that's the point.

>>2890008
Based. Women are too stupid to control themselves.

>>2890289
Wojack

>>2889958
>>2890171
It's both. They are literally working together.

>>2890326
exactly the reason why enma should be fired. too greedy for the chinese market and cant think logically of long term effects.

>>2890307
Whenever I ask how the Chinese control US media all I ever get is references to a 15 year old movie based on a Japanese cartoon from the 80s

>>2890297
(((women)))

>>2872799
>>2872911
If you're a fan of poo poo on dick jokes may i recommend Vshojo

>>2890339
I coudn't find the generic ogeyrrat pic on time soz. My point is still relevant though.

I wonder what's Yagoo cooking from the shadows with this new platform. If he makes it exclusive for holos then I fear he could fuck up because he would've literally built a glorified echo chamber in the process.

>>2890165

Thanks to your fake money for corpos, your world is a shitter place, fucking faggot

>>2890553
>fake money for corpos,
That's all currency

>>2890553
>fake money for corpos
Laughs in 2020 M2.

>>2890481
That's the biggest issue. Your lagest exposure is always going to be on youtube because it's a 'household name'. People are lazy and don't like to change up their routines and learning new things is hard for most. Moving everyone off the site that has largest reach means you stagnate because random weebs who might get recommended to clips or actual channels of the holo girls wouldn't get those rec's anymore and might not stumble into the streams.

>>2890592

No, it isn't because you haven't any credibly, you smoothbrain.

>>2890629

You brought a shitty car.

ITT: Greedy buttcoiners lmao. The universe is much worse, thanks you Elon Dusk and fucking Reddit.

>>2890629
Just report him for off topic posting

>>2888704
I doubt any of the EN managers are dumb enough to think they can do some fucking covert op going to the zhangs behind JP's back and then just tell them "yeah we're working with them on holoCN2". That's an instant reason for termination.

>>2890027
you love to see it

>>2890158
Most people like to be told what to do. They never went through proper development and they're still fucking teenagers on a mental level.

>>2890265
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5aAhNFKORI

>>2890880
Fair enough. I just feel like I see men more often than not being the type of person to not just push against rules, but fully break them and walk away. Women tend to be a lot more ok with just following whatevers in place and occasionally testing the waters.

>>2890663
>projection
Mass adoption is starting. When your media masters will tell you to bend the knee, you will bend it. Pathetic nocoiner NPC.

>>2890854
>seething nocoiner
kek. I bet you can't even tell the difference between BNB and BTC

>>2891011
Copy-pasting faggot memes isn't hiding your seething anymore.

>>2872799
I can't believe Ollie said "little faggot" without getting cancelled by the mob.

>>2872911
You only need to look at V-shojo to see what happens when you let women who rely on scatological humor and insults to be funny to do what they want.

with things like VTUBE token and open source vtubers like tilde this shits gonna stop

Once again, it's so easy to get a rise out of you dum dum niggas. Keep on responding to the bait.

>>2891381
Cool it with the racial pejoratives this isn't /b/

>>2891128
yes goy. only invest in the stock market, we care so much about you.

Wow crypto sucks. Thank you for sharing.

>>2873284
>wu mao still seething over Coco

>>2891223
You mean the group that currently has more viewers than EN does?

>>2872911
Even potty mouth Gura has done a very good job from holding back on swearing. Why? Because the real money comes from ad revenue on vods. And swearing instantly removes ad opportunity.

>>2891223
The only thing I like out of them is that they're open about their actual shitting habits. The jokes are shit but the actual shit is the bomb.

>>2891800

>>2872911
Because they aren't big enough to survive calling a nigger a nigger, a faggot a faggot, or a man a man.

>>2892223
>solution to all the problems

>>2892223
I'm sure that's exactly what they would say too. Hell, just listen to this.
https://streamable.com/4ftuha

If it wasn't for Enma HoloED would a den of degeneracy and sex

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRG_P-1wr-w

>>2890326
Based all the managers should be men and should all be referred to as their pimp daddys

>>2892455
Nah, still need your Mother Hen type women. There's always one or two women 'at the top' of the pecking order and they usually work well to break in the new Yagoo! acquisitions.

>>2892059
Got any good examples of this?

>>2892552
Snuffy has talked about it a few times and the thing I liked the most was her talking about how she gets a little horny sometimes when she has to shit. There was another point where Veibea was sitting on stream talking about how she could feel it coming and was getting shitting cramps.

>>2892370
Any apology clip?

>>2892729
Like all clippers usually do, totally taken out of context. She goes on to say after the clip ends that she meant black sheep, like black sheep of the family (KFP always talked about like family/workers). Her English as a third language had her mix up bad egg and black sheep into black egg.

>>2889851
Does anyone know where I can watch the original stream, or at least the interesting parts?

>>2892810
>Like all clippers usually do, totally taken out of context
>proceeds to explain what was painfully obvious from the clip
Why are kfp like this?

>>2892638
>talking about how she gets a little horny sometimes when she has to shit.
do women really?

>>2893690
People are retarded. They see a single half minute clip out of 3 hours of a stream and assume things based on that half minute clip rather than watching the stream. Not a KFP issue that half of this board is autistic as fuck and needs that to be explained to them. Also, the clip is a meme you fucking dipshit, I linked it to someone talking about calling a nigger a nigger. Maybe you should try following the link chain to get the context.

>>2892370
>calling niggers lazy
Kek

Does anyone knows vtube token on bsc, seems they are delivering something nice, any thoughts?

>>2872911
Probably because they know that most English speakers that watch streams are young children.

>>2892370
I always knew she was based and just pretending for the tumblr crew

>>2874501
I don't think you actually watch any of the girls.

There are way too many /r9k/cels on this board

>>2893774
No, only Snuffy.

>>2872799
EN management is retarded. Especially with the collabs ban with outsiders.

It's fine to block the obvious shitters like vshojo and chinks but there's decent vtubers who wouldn't cause problems, and they get cock blocked too.

Even shit with Pikamee is off limits which is outright ridiculous. Yet it's absolutely fine with ID who can collab with anyone including Holostars.

>>2892370
How can you hate this girl?

>>2872911
Thank god your not in charge.

>>2872911
Yes. let Charlie collab happend so this board becames unusable for weeks.

>>2891073
source?

>>2874456
>Look at ID, Ollie and Moona just do whatever and still keep gaining subs.

Except now the schizos reached to ID management and actually got scolded. Stuff like Moona apologizing, in Indonesian, for "risking" the Hololive image or Ollie expressing her desire to take a month off next month show there is a limit on what ID can do.
The reason Hololive is where it is now is due how the girls managed to get the best of them from the strict environment they are...otherwise they will still be nobodies like most of their roommates counterparts.

>>2872799
>People were also suspecting that EN Management told the streamers to reduce their swearing. Here is a clip of Calli openly admitting that part
Good. Women shouldn't swear in the first place, and if you're streaming on behalf of an idol company it's even worse.

>>2892370
I legit can't understand what she is saying.

>>2895012
>Even shit with Pikamee is off limits
Really? That's stupid.

>>2872911
https://clips.twitch.tv/CrazyTrustworthyYogurtVoteNay-mVj7_oo6bh0klMv-

Calli would have gotten to collab with who she wanted if it weren't for them.

>>2902694
bless them for doing their jobs and not unleashing this cancer then