/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

new thread so hopefully we have a meaningful discussion right?

this one, let's have a nice thread for once

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>80,534: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>44,799: Pekora (Hololive)
>32,419: Salome (Nijisanji)
>31,286: Miko (Hololive)
>28,534: Nui (Nijisanji)
>24,383: Okayu (Hololive)
>21,311: Fubuki (Nijisanji)
>19,277: Ars (Nijisanji)
>17,385: Lamy (Hololive)
>15,694: Mio (Hololive)
>15,606: Vox (Nijisanji)
>14,974: Luna (Hololive)
>14,771: Iroha (Hololive)
>12,624: Luca (Nijisanji)
>12,561: Ina (Hololive)
>12,554: Kobo (Hololive)
>12,272: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>12,084: Gatchman (Indie)
>11,396: Laplus (Hololive)
>10,980: Sana (Hololive)
>10,325: Fauna (Hololive)
>10,183: Kronii (Hololive)

>>28702626
If people flock to the other bait thread then no

>>28702626
do you believe?

When are the debuts

>>28702626
No, only Magniful discussion

>>28702683
>JULY 2022 GOLDS
1) Miko (Hololive) - 43,044 - HoloCure
2) Subaru (Hololive) - 66,433 - Birthday stream
3) AZKi (Hololive) - 74,504 - 3D birthday live
4) Tsukasa (Indie) - 41,447 - Streamer league mahjong
5) Mayuzumi (Nijisanji) - 57,985 - Meschers off-collab
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - Drinking talk w/Laplus
7) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - DQ11 casino w/Noel
8) Salome (Nijisanji) - 37,023 - Unpacking
9) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 164,013 - Koshien 2022 draft
10) Shion (Hololive) - 48,313 - 1 million subs celebration totsumachi
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 61,665 - Clubhouse 51 totsu
12) Shiina (Nijisanji) - 49,387 - Niji Koshien practice
13) Pekora (Hololive) - 70,402 - Uno collab w/Marine, Botan & Polka
14) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 54,165 - Niji Koshien practice
15) Natsume (Nijisanji) - 48,192 - 3D debut
16) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 70,166 - Niji Koshien practice
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 142,833 - 3rd anniversary 3D live
18) Mel (Hololive) - 67,290 - 4th anniversary 3D live
19) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 62,890 - Niji Koshien
20) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 80,534 - Niji Koshien

>PER COMPANY
10x: Hololive
9x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie

>PER STREAMER
5x: Pekora
2x: Ibrahim, Kuzuha
1x: AZKi, Mayuzumi, Mel, Miko, Natsume, Nijisanji, Salome, Shiina, Shion, Subaru, Tsukasa

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
128x: Hololive
62x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
3x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
23x: Pekora
16x: Aqua, Salome
14x: Kuzuha
13x: Miko
9x: Subaru
6x: Hal
5x: Kanata, Marine
4x: Gura, Hololive, Mio, Suisei, Toya

>>28702626
>/#/
>meaningful discussion

>>28702557
Final /news/ roundup for 20-07-2022
>>28689995 (Cross-thread)

>Additional news
>>28692001 (Cross-thread)

Recent clip numbers
>>28670801 (Cross-thread)
>>28670862 (Cross-thread)
>>28671101 (Cross-thread)
>>28671160 (Cross-thread)

AkuPeko returns
https://p2y.jp/vtuber-minato-aqua-oozora-subaru-and-usada-pekora-spice-love-to-perform-as-special-opening-act-at-animelo-summer-live-2022/

Praying for good numbers

>>28702626
>read the previous thread
>People giving tons of (you)s to a single blatant shitposter who then went on a shitposting rampage through the entire thread
Why are you guys like this, he wasn't even subtle

>>28702537
>How to you make the median chart if you don't have a way to access that data?
The median is the "median of peak CCV". It has one and only one meaning
>for the group being measured (channel, branch, company) half the streams will be peak over that number, half will peak below that number.
For that it suffices to have one entry per stream: the highest recorded CCV.

To plot what I suggested at >>28702434 you need the whole sample, meaning each 15 seconds sample the tracker takes for each steram, meaning 4 samples per minute, 240 per hour of stream times the number of streams.
.
With that said the tools I work with would have no trouble with that volume of data, as they deal on a daily basis with the likes of hundreds of thousands of data points per second coming from a huge array of sources
Collecting them is something else, it is not worth the trouble because vrabi, vstats, holostats, mado and other systems already do that and the median of peak CCV and the true average are enough to give a good view

didn't know you could get restricted on playboard by scrolling to fast in the view with the list of channel videos. I'm i wasn't even allowed to search normally for a minute or so.

>>28702816
what else were we supposed to do, do you have anything you want to talk about

Who’s inclining??

>>28702885
my dick

>>28702867
>didn't know you could get restricted on playboard by scrolling to fast in the view with the list of channel videos
kek, you can. It hits a rate limit and blocks you for a minute or so, I coded my playboard scrapper to just wait in the corner for a minute and retry, rinse repeat until the timeout passes

>>28702881
Just let the thread be comfy, there's no streams on anyway. We're not at danger of dying or anything.

>>28702885
Kaela, Fauna, Pekora

>>28702930
I mean, I get a scraper. But their own scroll function?

Watch Hours

>>28702626
Ha...ha...

>>28702919
The incline is too small tho, you need to zoom the chart in x100 to see it

>>28702557
Final /news/ roundup for 20-07-2022
>>28689995

>Additional news
>>28692001

Recent clip numbers
>>28670801
>>28670862
>>28671101
>>28671160

>>28702813
I wonder if the contract is different now. Subaru, Aqua and Pekora are all heavy hitters.

>>28702557
LIST OF 100K+ STREAMS
>>28429118
>>28429188

Council 30 days true average
>>28552826 :: Fauna
>>28553802 :: Mumei
>>28554518 :: Kronii
>>28554951 :: Bae
>>28555400 ::Sana
>>28582197

>>28702994
My scraper uses the same json API their scroll uses and they are in the business of selling data, not giving it away for free so they take technical measures to prevent a malicious actor from just pointing a scraper to their site and sucking in all the valuable and expensive information.

Good thing this hobby is small and there are only some 500 channels worth scraping, they don't even fell the sting of the little mosquito biting for a drop of their blood

>>28703085
It has to be at this point

>>28703085
Aqua and Peko already were, although CurryMeshi was a big part of Subaru's incline

>>28703085
That's the follow up to Curry Menshi right?

>>28702885
Rust players besides Marine.

>>28702999
those names that can't be read should be cut from the chart

>>28702731
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5fJlz3MxTY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeP98_LYL-U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tON-9I6hXwk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vvdpzduo4eQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeOS0CuF0FE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgmvwsTzaaQ

>>28702999
What is even the point of the outer ring?

>>28702885
Matsuri
>3,047 (27) May
>4,504 (26) June
>8,478 (13) July

>>28702626
lol

>>28702731
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1mEOrsBsLs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gt1TGiN9J04
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDRWSO281bIHYVi-OV3iFYA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NsChSGkobo

>>28702999
Choose a better graphic to show it.

>>28703400
sus

>>28703345
>What is even the point of the outer ring?
If you can see with your naked eye it must be a massive number, like Kuzuha and kane for Nijis, Subaru and Koyori for Holos, and Reid and Hal for Neo Porte, among others

>>28702999
in numbers please. im too dumb to read this.

>>28703345
to show who are the biggest contributors?

>>28703272
>Mommy’s Home
Would have preferred mamacita or latina gf, but ok.

>>28702999
isn't niji having the most watch hours a given when they have around 60+ memebers?

>>28703538
Niji has like 200 members lol

Alright why do all the Homostars videos have more views than subs but all the nijis have more subs than views. Only nijis horn guy has no video out yet

>>28702999
>Ars
based

>>28703538
>memebers
yes, it should, but you see how close it is with like triple the amount of streamers

>>28703611
Because Holo/Homo watchers actually watch videos and streams, Nijifans just tweet

>>28702999
For better visibility, each branch should display top 10 individuals, then another slice "the rest"

7/19/22
*FINAL GAIJIN TALLY OF THE DAY*
>13,804: Vox (Nijisanji)
>12,624: Luca (Nijisanji)
>12,561: Ina (Hololive)
>12,530: Kobo (Hololive)
>11.011: Sana (Hololive)
>10,344: Fauna (Hololive)
>10,232: Kronii (Hololive)
>9,661: Kiara (Hololive)
>8,466: Sana (Hololive)
>7,552: Mori (Hololive)
>7,278: Zeta (Hololive)
>6,009: Kaela (Hololive)
>5,661: Moona (Hololive)
>5,181: Amelia (Hololive)

>GAIJIN GOLD SO FAR FOR JULY
1. Mumei (Hololive) - 18,378 (I'm on Observation Duty 5 w/Fauna)
2. Ina (Hololive) - 22,039 (Return Stream)
3. Luca (Nijisanji) - 26,367 (600k sub celebration unarchived karaoke)
4. Mumei (Hololive) - 22,338 (HoloCure: Save the Fans)
5. Kobo (Hololive) – 22,212 (Getting Over It)
6. Gura (Hololive) - 32,780 (HoloCure: Save the Fans)
7. Kiara (Hololive) - 36,856 (3D Birthday concert)
8. Gura (Hololive) - 19,070 (I am Fish)
9. Kobo (Hololive) – 12,130 (Rock Simulator)
10. Lily (Cloud Horizon) – 21,623 (Graduation ceremony)
11. IRyS (Hololive) - 23,882 (1st Anniversary Celebration)
12. Sana (Hololive) – 22,793 (Graduation announcement)
13. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 14,315 (Reviewing viewer dishes)
14. Mysta (Nijisanji) – 21,552 (Genshin Impact gacha)
15. Kobo (Hololive) – 14,834 (Golf It! w/Mori)
16. Kronii (Hololive) – 16,001 (Dark Deception)
17. Vox (Nijisanji) - 13,352 (RP ASMR)
18. Selen (Nijisanji) - 18,215 (Obsydia 1 year anniversary celebration)
19. Mumei (Hololive) - 25,551 (Anatomy review w/Calli and Sana)
20. Vox (Nijisanji) - 13,804 (The Sims 4 making Iluna House)

>GOLD PER COMPANY
Hololive - 13
Nijisanji – 6
Others - 1

>GOLD PER STREAMER
3x: Kobo, Mumei
2x: Gura, Mysta, Vox
1x: Ina, Luca, Kiara, Lily, IRyS, Sana, Kronii, Selen

>SILVER PER COMPANY
Hololive - 14
Nijsanji - 6
Others - 0

>SILVER PER STREAMER
5x: Kobo
3x: Gura
2x: Vox, Luca
1x: Uki, Baelz, Mysta, Mumei, Amelia, IRyS, Kiara, Mori

>BRONZE PER COMPANY
Hololive - 16
Nijsanji - 4
Others – 0

>BRONZE PER STREAMER
3x: Kobo, Mumei, Ina
2x: Amelia
1x: Shu, Kiara, Luca, Kronii, Fauna, Mori, Moona, Petra, Uki

>MEDAL COUNT
Kobo: 11 (3-5-3)
Mumei: 7 (3-1-3)
Gura: 5 (2-3-0)
Vox: 4 (2-2-0)
Mysta: 3 (2-1-0)
Luca: 4 (1-2-1)
IRyS: 2 (1-1-0)
Kiara: 3 (1-1-1)
Ina: 4 (1-0-3)
Kronii: 2 (1-0-1)
Lily: 1 (1-0-0)
Sana: 1 (1-0-0)
Selen: 1 (1-0-0)
Amelia: 3 (0-1-2)
Mori: 2 (0-1-1)
Uki: 2 (0-1-1)
Baelz: 1 (0-1-0)
Shu: 1 (0-0-1)
Fauna: 1 (0-0-1)
Moona: 1 (0-0-1)
Petra: 1 (0-0-1)

>>28703611
much like how holojps have relatively correlated subs to ccv but nijis dont

>>28703611
To be fair the homo videos have been up longer.

>>28703611
homoEN isn't going to be getting much attention from regular hololive viewers, so the main people subscribing to them are existing homo fans with a few hololive fans checking them out and waiting for their debut

Here is one interesting visualization
>Sushi clips over 200k, 2 month or less

It's a good gauge to see where the Holo meta crossed recently, with Holocure, 3D debuts, WWE being well represented.

This one clip of Chloe jumping short jumps is the most watched out of the recent ones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4_yVsVX-aw
and for a good reason.

The way she looks at the camera, shifts her body language away from her character and into her real self and discloses one of the very real and very lewd womanly secrets
>short quick jumps make the boobs jiggle in a lewd way than long wide jumps
is something only a girl that knows EXACTLY how to fuck with the boys' minds could pull.

>>28703483
Same, she should up the Latina little more. It would make her stand out a bit more

>>28703605
143 JP 26 EN = 169

Over 200 with the chinks but they're on bilibili and effectively don't count.

>>28703633
thats because while they have many members, theres also some that dont stream as much. Not in EN but mainly KR/ID/JP

>>28703722
So has each one of his subs watched the video twice?

So how did Bae even get so far ahead and stay ahead for all this time until now? What was the difference? And you can't even say
>Fauna streamed more
Because that literally isn't even the case

>>28703827
I watched the video and did not sub to him. In fact I watched all 4 Tempus and all 6 iLunas and did not sub to any of them. Won't until they at least debut.

>>28703691
>much like how holojps have relatively correlated subs to ccv
No they don't. Fubuki, Matsuri and Haachama are countexamples on one side, Mio and Shion are counterexamples on the other side

>>28703722
But shouldn't the ones who have subbed to the nijis watched the videos too? Certainly doesn't seem that way.

What the? Iluna is already doing better than Tempus despite being announced a couple days later? That's quite the twist.

>>28703827
And why has this hot mamacita only gotten 45k views for her 55k subs. Shouldn’t this video be the one people should be rewatching. Idk it’s probably just the models working in favor of the nijis

>>28703827
You don't need to be subbed to watch a video.
I don't subscribe to a single vtuber but watch streams and vods all the time.

>>28703827
or, yknow, half of the viewers didn't sub
how can you explain having more subs?

>>28703372
Seems like Matsuri have managed to make her way into the box again. Her 3d gonna be a good indicator of how well she managed to integrate.

>>28703862
Minecraft Sportsfes + Febaery

>>28703990
GO KAELA GO YOU CRAZY BITCH

>>28703951
not exactly since very few people wanted homoEN

>>28703827
>That dislike

>>28703982
so, people opened the link, subscribed and left without even watching? what kind of blackbox magic is this one?

>>28703990
>Kaela 5k
being a stream monster works?!

>>28704022
+Peko collab

>>28703862
Bae model carried her before debut, remember she was supposed to be the Gura killer. Fauna has been slowly closing in but Bae widen the gap with her Feb where she streamed everyday

>>28703999
how was her last 3D live?

>>28703951
>That's quite the twist
how is that a twist?

>>28703611
Because not everyone had a video upon their announcement.

>>28703862
I also think Fauna filtered a lot of people early on with her voice + asmr. She started picking up momentum with SNOT when people found out she is pretty funny.

funny thread.

>>28703862
Bae was more attractive overall from the outset, and she speaks Japanese well. Fauna is not exuberant, nor is she creatively adept. However, she is a sweaty gamer, consistent with her time slot, and has a very sweet demeanor, so her fan base has continued to grow slowly but surely.

>>28704181
Might they have been rushed to make them?

>>28704130
I don't have the list but some other anons have posted it and im pretty sure it was under 50k.

This is kind of funny. I just discovered that the source of >>28702999 also released an article dissing Stream Hatchet for being inaccurate and showing how

>https://note.com/vstats/n/nbbd56ee504f4

>>28704190
I was always subbed to Fauna but I didn't usually watch her because ASMR and she seemed boring. Starting watching a lot more when she started streaming basically every day after Ina, and especially when Ina took off for a month.

>>28703691
Not sure about that, feels like generally Holo is more inflated.
Even Mel and Roboco have more subs than Lize.

>>28703982
They already saw the goods on her twitter

>>28704050
Don’t worry I’m slowly converting, checkem

>>28703666
>13,804: Vox (Nijisanji)
Not even 14k leeching the new gen and a playing buff game, bros how do we save milord?

>>28704345
It's even worse than you think

>>28704251
Seeing how the horned guy doesn't have a video and others have videos hours after the announcement, it seems to be out of their own volition. I can't compare Ren's tweets compared to everyone else so I don't know if he's just laying low on social media or not compared to the others.

>>28704345
that was also with a +2k Z peak

>>28704421
holy kek

>>28703990
HoloStarEN wont end up 3views post-Honeymoon, will they?

Here, to help people to gauge where Matsuri live might land, these are her top 10 highest streams so far.

>date :: peak :: title :: video_id
>2020-10-28 :: 49961 :: 【新衣装お披露目】本気の新衣装!ラフ案まで全部見せますッ!【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】 :: a79OC870YZY
>2021-07-22 :: 47673 :: 【#夏色まつり生誕祭】4回目のバースデー【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】 :: C-J0mGVamNc
>2020-07-28 :: 46038 :: 【新live2Dお披露目会】生まれ変わったまつりを見て!!【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】 :: g2InKgUPAA4
>2021-12-11 :: 40185 :: 【#冬でも夏色ライブ】寒い冬に夏色を感じませんか!?【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】 :: WELdC0CxYFc
>2022-07-09 :: 38762 :: 【第3走者・夏色まつり】1期生Live2Dver3.0お披露目リレー【ホロライブ/hololive】 :: KiFOcZA6QvQ
>2021-06-04 :: 37724 :: 【#ホロカラ覗き見】ホロライブのカラオケを覗き見!? / 3Dstream【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】 :: ZsVnMMOm74Q
>2020-07-22 :: 30766 :: 【#夏色まつり誕生祭3D】夏色まつり誕生祭2020本日の主役はこのまつり!!【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】 :: bxy2oLe7VwU
>2020-06-20 :: 30656 :: 【3Dライブ】2周年記念!今夜だけはまつりが主役!【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】 :: APN3rNzfNnw
>2021-12-25 :: 26460 :: 【#ホロクリスマス歌枠リレー】クリスマスは冬だけじゃありません!【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】 :: cZxU1znGQZc
>2021-07-01 :: 25891 :: すこしだけ :: Tv3MSVm7nRE
She doesn't have a very high ceiling, with 26k being enough to enter her top 10. For reference, her Live2D 3.0 last week is her figth highest attended stream.
Matsuri has a LOT of name (specially with EOP) recognition but not a very large audience.

I have no doubt she'll beat 50k with this live, and likely 60k and maybe 70k too. 2022 audience is a whole lot more interested in these lives
>thanks to very high quality recent ones like Aki, Roboco, AZKi and Mel, for instance
and they're turning in for all of them regardless of channel

>>28704421
It is so fucking weird how they dont recover to their pre Z.

>>28704441
Would be funny if the decision to pump out the new nijis was so sudden that he was caught sleeping in the middle of it.

>>28702683
Kuzuha lewds doko?

>>28704563
If there wasn't proof it's possible I'd legitimately think it was a full on bug but multiple people in holo have recovered passed their Z so it's all just ???

>>28704292
That's old news anon, Holo_data is one of the most vocal critics of Stream Hatched, mostly because they don't disclose their raw numbers (specially hours streamed) so people can't prove they're either missing streams or deliberately fudging the data.

>>28704560
i'd say she can break 60k, no more

look at the mirror

>>28704563
also with how often they get it.
there has to be something in youtube's algo which triggers it

>>28703990
Ars must be fucking the 3DPD offline to leech him that hard. Imagine forcing a deepthroat with her big head.

>>28703085
Subaru is big now?

>>28704606
Here anon, enjoy!

>>28703999
She's been trying to get back in the box since September, the other members seemed to actually cringe when she was doing her "love Hololive" New Year's resolution.

More like, recently, her plan of taking the morning and Rushia slots meant she just beat everyone to the punch in playing buff content.
Played Holocure first, Rust first, got the Live2D 3.0 along with the rest of Gen 1 first.
She also only played buffs with MoHun, Rust and being part of the Minecraft ID portal relay. And it's not like she's leeching, she pulled her weight and is even shaping up to be the Rust arc miniboss.
Singing, what used to be her strongest stream, is her worst performing of the month.

If she can make use of her Twitch channel for Apex and Valo crap, that should keep her average really high on YouTube.

>>28704639
717 sounds like a falseflagging nijinigger so yeah, it's a mirror.

>>28704639
nips are right. i love gura, i really do. but she doesn't work, so it's pointless.

>>28704254
Im pretty sure she can surpass that this time

>>28704087
>stream monster
also a Minecraft God according to Miko in that impromptu collab.

>>28704639
I guess the translation missed the "And ENs aren't bad in terms of ability", otherwise the "but" doesn't really fit the sentence

>>28704639
>717
Yeah that’s a nijinig. Vshojo and Niji would be able to surpass HoloEn as long as she exists

>>28704639
kek, that has to be a nijinigger since any numberfag would know firing gura would ruin holoEN

Guys how do we save Petra?

>>28703951
Only Reddit wanted StarsEN, I hope they flop and Omega gets finally fired.

>>28704639
Gura is indeed lazy as fuck, but firing her would be retarded.

>>28704839
You don't.

>>28704560
ez 60k this time

>>28704839
Make her collab with Salome for a final coup de grace into recline.

>>28704789
She has collected some 30 elitras and built a huge wall with them.
Ina got blown away vising her house
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJwW0CuTMuQ

Moona autism infected the ID girls, they built a fucking isekai world that even JP world has trouble to keep up

>>28704790
"Yabai"

>>28704560
>For reference, her Live2D 3.0 last week is her figth highest attended stream.
if anything I see this like a clearly result of her incline

Pretty nice pre send off SC numbers for Sana. She still got her graduation stream, gonna be interresting to see how much she ends up getting.

>>28703756
You just wanted to talk about Chloe's boobs jiggling physics.

>>28704710
That's a woman

JFC Finana is at 521 CCV currently man the new girls completely will murder her with overlap

who will have higher Bday numbers out of haato and matsuri, given that they're close in proximity

>>28704868
if Mr. hands is who everyone says he is i can see him doing well. not sure about any of the other ones though

>>28705002
not him but

>>28704691
Where have you been anon? Subaru has been big for a while now

>>28704839
Who cares

>>28705002
To be fair she has very nice boobs

>>28704556
Think of it this way. People think of Nijisanji like the town bicycle, they want to pump and dump and all that matters to them is surface level appearance, personality is irrelevant to them because they're only there to coom

Meanwhile, people think of Hololive and Holostars like marraige material, the type of person you really want to get to know and stick around for. They might not attract as many suitors, but that's not a bad thing since exclusivity is what you want out of those

In summery, those hoes ain't loyal

>>28704639
>Gacha’s asking for her to single their official EN cover
>Statue built of her for Holofes3
>meet and greet ambassador and headlining a con
>highest Sub vtuber they have
Yeah fire her huh, nijinigs sure are dumb.

>>28703862
You can check by yourself but she received a non-insignificant buff from her interaction with Pekora on Minecraft with the TNT trampoline as well as during her Collab with Pekora on her own channel by playing 51 clubhouse games.

>>28705002
Honestly Sakamata got a great fucking design, the lewd posting from her birthday gold was glorious.

>>28704966
When Miko zenlossed showing Zeta around, Kaela piped up in chat saying she can give her as many elytras she needs lol

>>28703272
What was the predicted gold for the 25th, anyone remember?

>>28704712
imaaageeee

>>28705117
But isn't that kind of psychology exclusive to males? Or are Fujos just like pigheaded men who just look for a quickie

>>28704639
>fire the most popular EN who streams 3 times a week and shills all their sponsors.
She's exactly what Cover wants, though.

>>28705093
The world we live in is great sometimes

>>28705072
honestley matuli is kind if a wild card now, the fact that her anouncment didn't break 10k at least in the first 30 minutes isn't a good sign but who knows
as for haachama, well think about it this way, during her anniversary haachama reached about 47k or something like that in the first 10 minutes, who knows what kind of numbers it would've gotten, and this one I assume will be an actual concert this time
she had about 50k~ish more or less split between two streams during the rebroadcast of her 3D and may I add the guests weren't VERY powerful with an EN being there as well
I'll be willing to put my bets on haachama beating festival

>>28705062
She needs to stop playing trash. But she won't. The same thing is going to happen to the brown bitch if she is who everyone says she is.

>>28705093
I wish I was her poltergeist

>>28704639
I wonder how they'd react if someone talked about firing Aqua.

>>28704839
24h off Collab with Anya.

Matsuri will get 70k, I BELIEVE IN THE HOLOBOX POWER

>>28705370
I want this to happen just for the people over at the anya-petra global lol

>>28705359
Is there a follow up for when he himself fell for her?

Good numbers, future EN3?

>>28704639
Seeing how EN management has turned Gura into their shill bitch a la Aqua, it's funny to see them fail to see it

>>28704560
By how much did Mel explode her second peak of viewers? If we take her current situation which is her being one of the least watched with Roboco and Akirose(who is much farther ahead than the other two), maybe Matsuri who is more popular than the three mentioned above can reach 75/80k?

>>28704712
>If she can make use of her Twitch channel for Apex and Valo crap, that should keep her average really high on YouTube.
didn't think about that, take not Fubuki, Iroha

>>28704986
>if anything I see this like a clearly result of her incline
Being in a relay where every girl got close to that number helped, but it is undeniable that Matsuri is doing her best to Re:start (as it's her concert name).

Pic related has her 30 days true average of CCV and she FUCKING SKYROCKETED since June, from a career low point with an average around 2,2k to almost her highest recorded level, close to 7k.
Being the first to join new meta (like Holocure and Rust), staying inside the box, putting the hours and the number of streams, she really really REALLY wants to incline and it's paying off.

>>28705545
These are better numbers than Mori gets on her normal streams, I think this could be the Mori killer

>>28705545
See you in 3 days

>>28704839
Give her a reboot

>>28705545
I really like her voice and tangent skills. Also she speaks Japanese. Holo needs someone like her.

>>28705313
Would be funny if she beat Haachama after what went down last year.

>>28705609
btw, by Matsuri chart you can see even unlabelled when a good season of APEX and either CR or VSaikyou is going on.
>her numbers touch the floor

>>28705609
she's just been doing buff after buff after buff
how's the rest of gen 1 doing?

>>28705442
>Miko and Suichan
I think 70k is reachable with micomet there but there is one persons that guarantees it. Miss peak CCV segment herself

>>28704329
Just a cup of lean with it to go along with Whori, his soon to be BFF, and this would be perfect.

>>28705686
god I wished the anniversary stream went down properly to see where her numbers would end up
reminder, her last anniversary stream peaked at about 55k with the shittiest shilling I've ever seen a holo do

28705545
Why are you like this? She doesn't her bring her stuff from that channel here.

>>28705609
holy shit the incline is real, is this keeps going she will beat her all time record

>>28705609
Man Holocure really saved Festival.

>>28705800
You are glowing, newfag.

>>28705905
If you say so schizo.

>>28705794
If it did have
+Haachama
-Menhera drama about Haachama not being there
With the From First buildup, it could have been 65k i think.

From First was really the turning point for these idol concerts, in terms of choreography and presentation and it was Matsuri's passion project.
Things could have turned so differently that summer.

>>28705609
With her being a big part of the rust server and her concert, it seems inevitable to be her highest ever month.

Man i just realized that the HoloX girls will potentially have 5 3D Anniversary live in a row in late November

>>28705545
As long as she doesn't use a voice to fit her avatar she should be good.

What are Kiara's usual numbers at this timeframe? Asking for absolutely no reason in particular.

>>28705609
>>28705708
>how's the rest of gen 1 doing?
Here is Fubuki. There is only one word for her "akai naaaa" december and it would be
>HOLY SHIT!

And you had to be there to see, there is no explanation for the autism of those streams.
>fish carp
>comes out red
>throw rod
>fish again

I'll repost the chart, clipped at some sensible 16k, so the comments about her numbers aren't drown by that Mt. Fuji over there

Jesus fucking christ that's a lot of shit they got in this cafe collab. Koreans really love HoloEN this much?

Don't they prefer Kronii/Bae/Mumei to Myth?

>>28706142
Ask the egg

>>28706050
yeah, that's the problem with these 1 day/week debuts that EN and newer members will be hit with.

But it's ok, at least Holo has done - totsu on the day + delayed 3D live.
So they can space them out.

>>28706041
I was talking about haato's anniversary this year and the last, but I do agree...the drama between them got to the point where everyone was making rrats about how haato was forced into preforming at from 1st
I'm glad they're on great terms now

>JP roommate stuff stays up all the time with no deletion
>chicken is insta delete
sugoi

>>28706050
usually when they are too crowded some of then move it a few days later or even a week

>>28706165
Man you can also see the FF14 autism in the chart.

>>28706041
It might honestly been the turning point when she started to think about getting into the holobox again.

>>28706247
Keep malding

>>28706247
Means she's just that famous.
Better not post HER though, grounds for permaban.

>>28706165
oh I remember it alright, gold day after day after day, it was insane

>>28706183
first the bait then the other bait

>>28706020
Back to r*ddit, or lurk 70 years more, newfag.

>>28706426
Stay in your basket egg

>>28703862
On a side note, Mumei is catching up to Fauna. This should've happened ages ago, as her music and vods generally does better than Fauna, but her inconsistent streaming didn't allow for it. Kronii is also catching up now that she's streaming more, but it'll take a bit before Bae becomes completely dead last unless Bae does something about it/inclines.

Here's some numbers. Niji Koshien streams for the individuals. when possible some comparison to the previous years.

>>28706165
Here is Fubuki again, with the Y axis clipped.

She, like Matsuri, is inclining heavily from a recline but the wise fox doesn't really care about that and will on occasion pick the DEBUFFIEST games to play for an extended period of time in front of an audience of 4k people.

Then out of nowhere she'll find some weird quirky meta, blow up to a 12k avg ot of nowhere, then find some kusoge and drop again, rinse repeat

>>28704839
Assign a male to her stream at all times.

>>28706463
You are such a retard.

8k get!

>>28706558
These are the drafts, block A & B and the final for each year.

>>28702683
watch Pekora

>>28706632
And lastly some wild predictions. They better pray for an all boys B block.

>>28705595
I don't think they care about their numbers. Sora legit stopped playing minecraft for a while because of that one random stream getting higher vod numbers than usual.

>>28706522
I'd assume some of this has to do with Fauna making way fewer ASMR videos than she did early on, which are her strongest-performing VODs and probably a big factor in her place in this stat.

>>28703982
Twitter hands aren't watching streams

The hell is this youtube?

I want to do a bit of armchair business strategy analysis right now over how Cover is handling their talent.

It seems to me that every branch of Hololive has a CCV leader, a streaming monster, a merch shillster, a primary musical performer, an organizer, an ambassador, Superchat Leader, a corpo mouthpiece, and a 'waiting room'. You can see this in JP and even ID, there are different members who fill different rolls, making the group stronger overall.

There are several missing pieces in different branches however. EN notably lacks an effective CCV leader because Gura has been turned into a shillster and has reduced productivity. Ame is running double duty as both an organizer and corpo mouthpiece, the closest thing there is to a waiting room is Fauna, and there are no streaming monsters. The closest thing to an ambassador type, someone who interacts with people from other corpos or indies, is fucking Mori and Kiara, and they have no interactions with Nijisanji who are the closest to peers they have, which is a significant problem.

So EN3 really needs to address these weaknesses. May people have said '5 Koyoris/Kaelas' but EN needs way more than that

>>28706368
What? How is discussing merch bait?

>>28706713
>Sora legit stopped playing minecraft for a while because of that one random stream getting higher vod numbers than usual.
Source

>>28704839
save from what? those are good numbers for her. Her usual are 1.2k to 1k

>>28706859
https://youtu.be/cgLZyBReQuY

>>28706853
>they have no interactions with Nijisanji who are the closest to peers they have, which is a significant problem.
it is not a problem

>>28706853
the problem is that most of those qualities are impossible to vet or filter for on audition because they only become evident upon streaming. Like they clearly expected bae to be the organizer of the branch, when she ended up being more like the ambassador instead.

>>28706853
Gura remains their ccv leader, her shilling duties only took prominence recently and you can't give double duty to Ame then take it from Gura.

Also Gura HAS to be the shilling bitch because the opportunity for western shill streams are muc hsmaller and they just demand your biggest talent to even consider you.

>>28706859
Sora herself

>>28706853
They just need people who will stream more to fill the dead time, instead of 5 people who will takes 3-4 days off per week and all stream from 6-11 PM EST.

>>28706559
Fubuki has a shitpost switch that she engages a sporadically. Void stream, waiting for Marine and Shion, shiny pokemon. most of the time shes happy with grinding FF or plasmophobia

>>28705800
It's literally the first thing susan recommended to me when I opened her garbage website, I just thought it was funny. Sometimes i get JP roomates too but those are usually more buried down and just vods or clips, not lives. I do remember seeing a certain wigger live recommended tho.

>>28706853
>they have no interactions with Nijisanji
And this is a good thing seeing these threads.

>>28706559
>>28706165
>>28705609
Here is Aki.

That HUGE peak in the start of the year is more or less an "optical illusion". Aki is cursed as fuck and after her magnificent run with Vampire Survivors plus, IMO; one of the best lives this year, she ended up having to take a break because of health and had very few streams in the period.

Even then, the current incline is real tho and she's staying above the 4k line, a line which used to be her absolute ceiling back in the days.

>>28707010
It never has been, I don't know what asshole OP pulled this "ambassador" shit out of, most of Hololive has retreated inside a Holobox and have barely any time for indies or other corpos.

>>28707075
They're going to add 5 people who stream more but they will all stream at the timeframe you mentioned.

>>28707075
the great pity is that Kronii is the one who ended up as Kronii instead of Kaela

>>28706996
Ok, that's kinda cute

>>28707189
kek, imagine. this thread would go insane

>>28707010
>>28707100
Don't pretend like this is something the whole of Hololive does. JPs regularly collab with people outside of the company, be it Tamaki or Nijis or even Indies, it's just EN that has the problem of few collabs outside of the box

>>28706853
They need to stay far away from nijisanjiEN.

Can someone explain what the fuck is mag meme??

>>28707103
all I'm really seeing from these is how helpful some FTOM games are and trends in general

>>28707290
Lurk moar

>>28707290
>>28707337

>>28706853
>and they have no interactions with Nijisanji who are the closest to peers they have, which is a significant problem
Not seeing a problem

>>28706844
K4sen tickled her nipples so she got an erection.

>>28707189
honestly that would be great too, ID mostly streams in ID primetime and they've managed to incline all the same because there's always someone who's streaming around that time no matter what day it is. If EN could just get enough members that US primetime is consistently covered it'd go a long way towards keeping them in the public conciousness

>>28707103
You forgot the most important of all, ARK stint with Pekora

>>28706165
Fubuki is traitor and should have graduated long ago instead of being reduced to the corpo bootslicker she is now. Very sad to see her decline like this.

>>28707271
It's actually fucking hilarious how people don't realize that, on a whole, HoloEN is full fucking autismo. Ina and Ame haven't collabed 1 on 1 with each other FOR OVER A YEAR because they don't want to ask each other for collabs. Fauna hasn't fucking collabed with any Myths outside of Gura (who asked her) and Kiara (who asked her) becasue she, too, like Myth doesn't like asking for 1 on 1 collabs. Kiara, Mori, and Bae are like the only 3 that would be willing to branch out and Kiara is hyper specific in who she cares to collab with.

>>28707120
see >>28707271
Despite all tribalism from Nijisanji, having some level of outreach and connections with people outside of the company is important and useful

>>28706996
i was watching that clip and wondered why the hell she didn't react to the sound of tnt going of before i realized that the sound was from Kaela's stream.

>>28707434
shut up zhang, go eat your batsoup

>>28707434
Ogey

>>28707444
Good point. Put that down as another roll that needs to be filled in EN - 'Collab Leader'. I guess Marine would fill that role in JP

>>28707434
talking shit about gen 1 will end up with your oshi graduating anon
t. sanallite

>/vt/ literally grooming a 14 year old
Why is this allowed again?

>>28707103
>>28706559
>>28706165
>>28705609
And here's Haachama
>I want off Haachama's wild ride

You can safely ignore her chart between those huge spikes as she barely streamed and only did special events and "returns".
After her real return in mid September she was sitting on the 7k line, then dropped never to recover during CCVID to around 4k

She had a spurt of good streams and collabs during her off period on college but right now she reduced her youtube activities again (and added some twitch streams to court the EOPs, it seems).

>>28707689
nijiseethe

>>28707458
90% of JP does not collab with anyone outside of hololive. yes, there's a fuckton more of them that collabed outside of it, but proportionally they're not that far away from HoloEN. It's HoloID and Homos that have always been the "out the company collab" people. Go ahead, tell me who is each JP gen's "ambassador" that collabs with indies and nijis.

>>28707691
this chart looks like one of those luxiem totally not botted charts

>>28707691
jesas...

>>28707689
Dunno, I reported the thread about that underaged girl but barely anything has been done about that. Cumpedos stay cumpedos I guess, even among the meidos.

>>28707689
Phase Connect mods are grooming her, we're just jacking off to her ASMR.

>>28707658
EN needs an NA collab leader. Chicken is a debuff and a cunt who refuses to leave her timeslot and would rather everyone else come to EU hellslot even when she does organize something.

>>28707689
>14 year old
I guess that is a number, but how is that relevant to this thread?

>>28707691
where did you get a screenshot of my coinbase portfolio from?

>>28707691
good fucking lord

>>28707691
Schizoarcbors...

>>28706856
no retard, Im talking about the ones that made the cafe collab, they are baiting first with myth collab and then with council

>>28707691
Christ it looks like a fucking NijiEN stream graph.

>>28707290
- shitty looking face, which makes it easy to not take him that seriously
- extra arms weird design which can easily be memed, especially by him
>time for a more hands on approach
people are now running with the memes.
IT ain't that deep really.

>>28707689
Numbers?

>>28707721
There doesn't need to be one per gen, there needs to be at least one per fucking branch though. EN doesn't have one of those at all, JP at least has Towa

>>28703862
She's the most hardworking council member but her personality is too energetic
Fauna has a personality more suitable for HoloEN but hasn't put the same effort as Bae
That's my opinion for why they are so balanced in sub count

>>28707691
I mean do these charts really mean anything in haachama's case? she doesn't do any trendy or ftom games, and she rarely does her buff streams, sometimes she's busy, sometimes she's not
and even THEN she still antis her numbers like there's no tomorrow

>>28707940
>She's the most hardworking council member
lol
lemao

*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY*

>NOTE
This is the first tally that is going to filter out "Z" peaks. I will mainly only be looking into this for the top 3 as anything below that is merely an honorable mention anyway.

Here it goes
>12,561: Ina (Hololive)
>11,619: Vox (Nijisanji)
>11,214: Luca (Nijisanji)
>11,011: Sana (Hololive)
>10,344: Fauna (Hololive)
>10,232: Kronii (Hololive)
>9,661: Kiara (Hololive)
>8,466: Sana (Hololive)
>7,552: Mori (Hololive)
>5,181: Amelia (Hololive)

>>28706996
Im gonna rape this dork

>>28707689
I posted in the thread a few days ago but anyone calling them groomers or telling them to stop being creepy is deleted and banned for trolling because there's a chumpedo janny I guess. I can't see this ending well.
>>28707812
>>28707918
Well they did turn her from a 1 view into a 3 view and the algorithm picked her up. Over 1k subs now and 400 CCV last I checked, so more than uyu

>>28707691
s-sugoi...

>>28706283
Yeah, like the upcoming August 8th. Towa's birthday, Noel's anniversary and Aqua's anniversary. They have to spread out every year lol. Aqua's already said her anniversary show will be on the 11th, Noel and Towa haven't said anything yet.

>>28707980
>EN GOLD SO FAR FOR JULY

1. Mumei (Hololive) - 18,378 (I'm on Observation Duty 5 w/Fauna)
2. Ina (Hololive) - 22,039 (Return Stream)
3. Luca (Nijisanji) - 26,367 (600k sub celebration unarchived karaoke)
4. Mumei (Hololive) - 22,338 (HoloCure: Save the Fans)
5. Gura (Hololive) - 20,406 (Chatting stream)
6. Gura (Hololive) - 32,780 (HoloCure: Save the Fans)
7. Kiara (Hololive) - 36,856 (3D Birthday Concert)
8. Gura (Hololive) - 19,070 (I am Fish)
9. Vox (Nijisanji) - 10,092 (RP ASMR)
10. Gura (Hololive) - 19,424 (Youtubers Life 2)
11. IRyS (Hololive) - 23,882 (1st Anniversary Celebration)
12. Sana (Hololive) - 22,793 (Graduation Announcement)
13. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 14,315 (Food Review)
14. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 21,552 (Some Chinese Bullshit)
15. Fauna (Hololive) - 11,636 (Minecraft)
16. Kronii (Hololive) - 16,001 (Dark Deception)
17. Vox (Nijisanji) - 13,352 (RP ASMR)
18. Selen (Nijisanji) - 18,215 (1st Anniversary Celebration)
19. Mumei (Hololive) - 25,551 (Anatomy Review w/Mori and Sana)
20. Ina (Hololive) - 12,561 (Minecraft)

>GOLD PER COMPANY
Hololive - 14
Nijisanji - 6
Others - 0

>GOLD PER STREAMER
4x: Gura
3x: Mumei
2x: Mysta, Vox, Ina
1x: Luca, Kiara, IRyS, Sana, Fauna, Kronii, Selen

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
Mumei: 24
Gura: 23
Vox: 20
Mysta: 15
Kiara: 15
Ina: 14
Luca: 12
IRyS: 9
Mori: 7
Sana: 6
Fauna: 6
Kronii: 6
Amelia: 5
Baelz: 5
Selen: 5
Uki: 4
Shu: 3
Petra: 1

>>28707980
FUCKING FINALLY, this Z shit has gone on for way too long.

>>28707980
COPE TALLY*

>>28707691
is this legal?

>>28707691
Here, to make her data make more sense
>hiatus period removed

She tagged along with EN and had a burst of glory with her schizo arc, but then stayed too long off the game and too busy with studies to be able to bring her A game

>>28707980
Based

>>28707812
>>28707918
/news/

Self explanatory

>>28707980
>This is the first tally that is going to filter out "Z" peaks
Based.

>>28703666
>Mori
>Not C-MAN
Don’t give my boys success to that bitch

>>28707891
honestly at this point I'm wiling to bet that a significant portion of them are posting those memes just because it makes nijiniggers seethe

>>28707721
Gen 0 - Roboco, Suisei, Sora
Gen 1 - Fubuki, Matsuri
Gen 2 - Mel, Choco
Gen 3 - Marine at best
Gen 4 - Towa
Gen 5 - Polka
Gen 6 - Too early, is looking like it'll be laplus though.

>>28707934
Mori and Bae don't count? They just had collabs with Miori and Amalee just recently, and Ironmouse before that.

>>28703862
Other than sports fes POV and Febaery, Bae was often the only one streaming Minecraft in Oct and Nov while every EN was sitting in VC. She was pretty much the single POV of many improptu collabs.

>>28707691
>>28708118
all of her big numbers are during "special" times
the latest incline for example was during her discord prank arc followed by her anniversary
I don't understand why she doesn't play more games...who else hasn't touched holocure other than her and ayame?

Unfortunately it looks like this July has ramped up the tribaliposting even more. Homos, VshojoJP, new Niji Wave...it's a shitfest.

>>28708227
JESUS CHRIST
Is Finana actually 3view tier now??

>>28703951
That’s totally expected? It’s like HoloX beating Ranunculus yeah no shit

>>28708227
Rosemi will get 10k right?

>>28704639
Fuck those people. Gura has been working extremely hard on that shill cover for that gacha game all week long.

>>28708227
Oof finana...

>>28708227
I don't feel an ounce of sympathy for fish

>>28708304
I think Bae counts but it's yet to be seen if she'll go beyond her old coworkers. Mori is the primary musical act, frankly it's crazy she can find time to stream so much when she keeps so fucking busy

>>28708227
jesas, they're actually going to die with the new debuts
but hey, if you sum all their peaks it's fine!

>>28708329
No she'll incline from a random raid to save her from 3view hell and save her median for the month.

>>28707691
>>28708118
question for haatons if any are here, when was the last time haachama played a trendy game among holos?

>>28708227
>The girls from wave 6 will be 10ks

I see some of my posts getting deleted, Nijimeido has awoken

>>28708295
I think Laplus will be the one. She doesn't have a problem mentioning chuubas from other corpos and the Valorant collab with VSPO and NeoPorte was her idea

>>28707691
>>28707103
>>28706559
>>28706165
>>28705609
And last, but not least, Mel.

With the exception of her mid May incline, most of her ups and downs come from not streaming enough and having to take long breaks.
She always come back to collect a gold or two tho, she's a cute vampire that only shows up at night for the blood.

>>28706215
HoloEN at least has them all on the same day so they would just do a group Live if possible.

>>28708637
And that completes JP1

>>28705609 :: Matsuri
>>28706165 :: Fubuki
>>28707103 :: Aki
>>28707691 :: Haachama
>>28708637 :: Mel

>>28708498
>when was the last time haachama played a trendy game among holos?
never.
unless you count minecraft during minecraft season

>>28702683
Forgetting Nazuna's 45K Fall Guys aren't we?

>>28708227
GO KAELA GO
sad for the nijiEN girls but it's their own fault

Fun fact: There's more NijiEN groups than HoloMyth members

Will wave 6 actually make someone in NijiEN an occasional 2 view?

>>28704639
It's truly over HoloJP bros. 45K people watched Nazuna, their ex 2nd best talent play Fall Guys. Pekora continues to bleed viewers to her ex-genmate.

>>28708804
>separate platform
Go bitch to the twitch tally anon to make it again.

>>28708804
Stop making me check twitchstats you fucking double nigger it didnt even crack 13k

>>28708946
Sorry, Finana, 600 is for grownups.

>>28708970
45K on Twitch is 70K on YouTube. Just face it. VShojo JP is the future. Koshien may not be as popular as it was before if Nazuna incline is real

>>28708946
If a lot of them stream during these hours, yeah, it will be a truly bloodbath

>>28708804
>>28708963
>45k
kek

>>28707458
no it isn't lol

ebin troll bro

>>28709079
It is anon, part of Towa incline is because of that

>>28709035
Wait for the raids and Zs

>>28708295
>Gen 2 - Mel

I'm more convinced than ever that every nijifag and nazunafag here are just holofans trolling and baiting people

>>28707980
BASED

About time somebody had the balls to do it. Now we just need regular tally anon to do something about the fucking Z peaks.

>>28709072
Doctored image, she had 45k

>another cull
Explains why Finana is in the triple digits now.

>>28709124
towa incline is partly due to holobox and partly due to fps/vspo incline
it is also because she didn't collab with people like nijien

>>28709197
he figured it out

>>28708321
Aki, Mel, Aqua, Towa, Luna, Nene, Laplus, Chloe, Iroha, Mio are the JP girls who haven't played it other than those two you mentioned.

Did susan do something to song views. They seem lower for hololive as an whole like their growth slowed down. For example this ina cover is growing slow but takos always do their music reps. So it should be much higher. Same thing with kiara fevernight kfp do their song rep but growth is terrible. Even the fubuki and korone song failed to break 100k. Same shit with nene her newest song can't break 100k which should be guarantee.

>>28709072
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>>28709124
part of matsuris recline is because of that

>>28709256
Source??

>>28709072

>>28709194
Yeah I wrote her in the wrong line because she's with Choco so much lol

>>28708963
>>28708804
>>28708804
Tick tock Nazitard, I haven't forgotten the grudgepost I have to spam in your garbage thread. https://twitchtracker.com/amemiyanazuna/streams/39503136663
You started the fight, I'm merely finishing you cucks off.

>>28709197
There's no real Holofags left

>>28708946
they have a long way to fall before they get to that point, though the scary thing is that that's is not completely outside the question

>>28709323
because she prioritize collab outside the box
>some level of outreach
no one is saying they should these all the time

>>28709367
Cope

>>28709313
People have brough this up in the last month, but then you got the occasional cover like this one from Watame that does real well.
It might just be a case of to many covers for people to keep their reps up.

>>28708295
Anon, you put Mel in Gen 2.
In fact, from Gen 1 it can just be everyone.
Aki has a bunch of non Holo friends, she even collabed with oMaru and Ruri-nee before Suisei knew who she was.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsFss1g5Ugw

Even Haachama had quite a few non-holo collabs back when she did collab. But even recently, she jumped on the Ironmouse collab.

>>28709124
No it's not. Quite the contrary, previous CR Cups and VSaikyou, when she was out of the box, murdered her numbers.
>pic related

Like Matsuri, you can trace every single one of ther low points to a good APEX season and CR Cup or VSaikyou.
Her massive current incline came out of being one third of StartEND, an **ALL HOLO** team that hogged all of the attention on VSaikyou this year.

As soon as she stepped out of the shadow of that buff her numbers returned to the normal direction of her incline: upwards, but not that up.

how's Lamy's Korean sibling doing?

>>28707980
This should be the standard tally anon is a retard there should be new rules in counting numbers these Z peaks are so fucking ridiculous

>>28709469
That song and Mixed Nuts are THE songs of the anime season so it's not surprising

>>28709323
Most of Matsuri's recline was because of jerking around her fanbase with bullshit and breaking promises.

https://youtu.be/0nOpnXyvH4U
you know this video made me realize just how few of the holos have actual fanbase avatars

>>28709256
if by cull you are referring to people forgetting she exists and moved on to the new toys, then yeah

>>28709567
Seeing things like these makes me wonder why they even bother doing outside collabs. Literally just stay with Holo and you incline

>>28709489
That's true, basically everyone in Gen 1 could be included to some degree, just Haachama's circumstances over the years has lessened her opportunities to do so.

>>28709709
more like go woke get broke

Okay I've seen claims over and over that the number of songs released is oversaturating, can someone produce any evidence to support this claim?? Something like a timeline of song releases, if the number of new releases isn't higher than previous months then clearly that's not the reason

>>28709629
yeah, i understand not excluding "botted" streams since without any proof you can't say for 100% certainty it was botted.
however, Z's can be seen and tracked.

>>28709313
>>28709469
They are way lower for this time period though right?
Usually song views shoot up during summer and winter school break.

>>28709714
>why they even bother doing outside collabs
For fun. They're actually friends behind the scenes, you know?

That's the difference between a fun collab (like a Haachama-Hoshikawa) and a "for numbers" collab (like Haachama-Ironmouse).

>>28709465
so what is the point? the occasional collab which they already do, collabing for the sake of it will just lower the quality

>>28709801
Cope. Polka and La+ are next on SOTD

>>28707980
Falseflagger trying to make holofags look bad, fuck off

>>28709714
cause she plays FPS games and not enough holos play FPS games.
Simple as.

>>28709567
Also, that recent dip is when Pekora came back right?
She, Kanata and Botan were seeing huge inclines leading up to Pekora's return.

>>28709862
Wut? Good for them, doesn't make them fun collabs tho.

>>28707980
Keep doing this I'll support it you should do one for the main golds as well im done with botted spikes that keeps on being counted as a win

>>28709801
but the haachama and ironmouse collab was pretty fun

>>28709929
Haachama had more fun on SOTD than she did in any stream this month. Cope.

>>28709982
This

After I saw that Vox only "beat" Ina because of a Z spike I said "enough is enough". It's time to filter out the Z peaks.

>>28709920
>Also, that recent dip is when Pekora came back right?
It might be, but didn't she take a break or something in the period? Her number of streams went down from 24+ to 15- in the 30 days period

>>28709893
Is there a single person who legitimately believes Zs should be taken seriously

>>28710019
>>28710048
You guys and I might have a different concept of "having fun":
Haachama had lots of fun with Choco in her recent off collab
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giOAJq58IJo

The one with Ironmouse was meh, had some amusing moments but it's a talking stream.

>>28710019
>>28709801
And the numbers were kinda bad.
>9,700 Haachama
>14,236 Mori
>11,948 Shu
>19,567 Ludwig

https://twitter.com/ui_shig/status/1549712679429816320
Ui is graduating...
she will finally be my wife wife and Subaru will be my daughter wife

>>28710144
The Nijikeks who have to come up with a new way to bot their streams since we are calling out the Z peaks now.

>>28710144
None of us do it's simply retarded, but just cutting them off as one wishes is just plain retarded as well..

>>28709862
yeah and mori and vox will be having their MC collab soon

I thought the "MOST INFLUENTIAL THREAD" was a joke

>>28710257
Haachama was a really weird time for Ironmouse and the twitch audience, like 9 AM.

>>28710258
congratumations anon.
She will definitely never cheat.

>>28710144
>criple tally
>taken seriously

>>28710258
don't do this to me man, I still have announcement ptsd...

>>28710386
yes, and it was relatively short too, about 1/2 what it usually lasts.
But still, backs up that it wasn't for numbers.

>>28710430
Ui is loyal

>>28710347
it was.. until it wasn't.

>>28710144
I don't think they should be taken seriously at all but doctoring numbers and determining what counts as a Z and what doesn't when we have seen so many different variations of them is just asking for the tally to turn into far more work and far more arguements that it is worth. I'm of the opinion that the tallys should just report the numbers that we are given fucked or not (which is what we literally do for ccv anyway even though we know it is fucked), because if not you are entering levels of magic numbers since we have no idea how Zs effect the actual would be peaks

>>28710243
well haachama will obviously be more comfortable talking in Japanese with coworker whom she knew for 4 years, maybe they didn't interact that much if at all but they still worked together and saw each other and chatted over the span if 4 years, compared to ironmouse who she pretty much just met
>>28710257
it wasn't on a Friday and the timeslot was kind of weird, also at the end of the day haachama IS a jp, sadly she won't stay consistent with her twitch streams but if she could then she'd incline there as well, she peaked at 4.3k or something on her own excluding the raid iirc which is pretty decent