/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>28680956
Hard to get a sense of pre-debut hype nowadays, twitter is like extra noise.
Like from what we know, the ceilings for HoloEN are lower now than a year ago, so would it be possible for EN3's debut numbers to be lower than Council's? It shouldn't be, but who knows?
ID3's debut numbers were lower than ID2's, but well we can see now that didn't matter because ID3 is killing it.

I missed Lamy

* YESTERDAY'S FINAL TALLY *

>62,890: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>45,802: Suisei (Hololive)
>39,934: Salome (Nijisanji)
>39,429: Pekora (Hololive)
>38,090: Tamaki (NoriPro)
>36,815: Tsukasa (Indie)
>34,416: Pekora (Hololive)
>32,780: Miko (Hololive)
>32,595: Maimoto (Nijisanji)
>26,350: Laplus (Hololive)
>25,603: Mumei (Hololive)
>18,748: Patra (774 Inc.)
>17,910: Towa (Hololive)
>16,491: Luca (Nijisanji)
>15,433: Mayuzumi (Nijisanji)
>14,835: Uki (Nijisanji)
>14,666: Iroha (Hololive)
>14,205: Lize (Nijisanji)
>13,186: Reid (Neo Porte)
>12,513: Koyori (Hololive)
>12,276: Laplus (Hololive)
>12,209: Matsuri (Hololive)
>11,156: Kronii (Hololive)
>10,914: Koyori (Hololive)
>10,281: Akira (Nijisanji)
>10,257: Sana (Hololive)

So NijiEN latina is also a rapper and making her own music as well. I think she might compete with Mori.

i want NUMBERS, PIE CHARTS, LINE GRAPHS AND SOME FUCKIN COFFEE WHERE ARE THE NUMBERS

>>28681267
Fuck off, her model is actually sex so stop jinxing her.

>>28681128
I mean Gatchman plays phasmo with fubuki sometimes and he plays a lot of horage, it makes sense

Reminder to never trust posts coming from the Lie:Verse. If it has no screencap or cannot be verified, assume that it is a Nijinigger trying to shit up the thread.

Nerver trust Nijiliars

>>28681262
>JULY 2022 GOLDS
1) Miko (Hololive) - 43,044 - HoloCure
2) Subaru (Hololive) - 66,433 - Birthday stream
3) AZKi (Hololive) - 74,504 - 3D birthday live
4) Tsukasa (Indie) - 41,447 - Streamer league mahjong
5) Mayuzumi (Nijisanji) - 57,985 - Meschers off-collab
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - Drinking talk w/Laplus
7) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - DQ11 casino w/Noel
8) Salome (Nijisanji) - 37,023 - Unpacking
9) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 164,013 - Koshien 2022 draft
10) Shion (Hololive) - 48,313 - 1 million subs celebration totsumachi
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 61,665 - Clubhouse 51 totsu
12) Shiina (Nijisanji) - 49,387 - Niji Koshien practice
13) Pekora (Hololive) - 70,402 - Uno collab w/Marine, Botan & Polka
14) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 54,165 - Niji Koshien practice
15) Natsume (Nijisanji) - 48,192 - 3D debut
16) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 70,166 - Niji Koshien practice
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 142,833 - 3rd anniversary 3D live
18) Mel (Hololive) - 67,290 - 4th anniversary 3D live
19) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 62,890 - Niji Koshien

>PER COMPANY
10x: Hololive
8x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie

>PER STREAMER
5x: Pekora
2x: Ibrahim
1x: AZKi, Kuzuha, Mayuzumi, Mel, Miko, Natsume, Nijisanji, Salome, Shiina, Shion, Subaru, Tsukasa

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
128x: Hololive
61x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
3x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
23x: Pekora
16x: Aqua, Salome
13x: Kuzuha, Miko
9x: Subaru
6x: Hal
5x: Kanata, Marine
4x: Gura, Hololive, Mio, Suisei, Toya
3x: Chloe, Choco, Flare, Nijisanji, Okayu
2x: Ange, Fuwa, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Polka, Towa, Ibrahim
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, AZKi, Botan, Chronoir, Debi, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa,, Iroha, Kaida, Laplus, Masaru, Mayuzumi, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Noel, Roboco, Rushia, Sango, Shiina, Shion, Sora, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

>>28681267
MORI KILLER LET'S GO!!

Just woke up. What I miss?

https://twitter.com/alicefiction_EN/status/1549748460986982402
Gura going to end up doing English covers of every gacha game theme song at this rate.

>>28681267
MORI AND GURA KILLER

>>28681267
Hope she goes full Cardi B and raps about her coochie

>>28681128
Anon.. he is friends with Fubuki and Sora. Literally one of the first collabs outside Holo that she did was with him

So do we have a proper conclusion why Pekora's numbers are good after her return? I'm not even talking about her ccv peaks more like how healthy her viewerships are, the numbersagis in the thread knows what I'm talking about. Her viewership pattern wasn't this healthy before her break.(not getting 20k poem, having a hard time maintaining long peaks, etc.)
Is it just because of her content? is the Salami tourists actually real? Is it because of the Jun wedding?(lol)

>>28681375
Hope she gets paid well for it.
Also King at the cusp of 80k again.

>>28681244
Wrong thread, anon.

>Tempus will get their true buffs in one month with HoloCure Gamers update, If Oga can get 3 times his usual CCV from it nothing is off the table for EN

>King 80k
TO THE MOON
>TO THE MOON
TO THE MOON
>TO THE MOON

>>28681375
Woah, Holobros look at the TV. It's our shark.

>>28681243
EN3's numbers will be lower than Council's, unless for some reason they decide to go back to doing them in JP time. Western vtubing market has shrank since then. I would expect 70-80ks not 80-90ks. Council would have been even higher if they didn't have to delay the debuts for 1 day.

>>28681267
Imagine UMG skipping Mori for her in the future.

>vtuber singers
>only rappers and pop artists
where are my band heads? where the rockers at? where the musically inclined vtubers at?

>>28681360
NijiEN wave 6 debut a day after holostar EN debuts
All but one wave 6 got doxed because one of them went full Nene with twitter follows
Wave 6 beat Tempus in subs in half a day

>>28681360
the news anon will be around in abit, but mainly a bunch of sponsorship announcements

>>28681471
The actual talented ones don't do vtuber gigs anon.

>Ibra and King back to back Golds
Yeah this is looking like a 16-13 Niji win this month. Hololive literally only has the Towa outfit, Marine birthday, and Mio mahjong.

>>28681495
anon we know who that guy is too

https://twitter.com/suisei_hosimati/status/1549750467906809856
more blue women on the RUST trains

>>28681166
Final /news/ roundup for 19-07-2022
>>28593844

Additional news
>>28594312
>>28594801
>>28595176
>>28674499
>>28679268

Recent clip numbers
>>28670801
>>28670862
>>28671101
>>28671160

>>28681430
kys anon

>>28681360
Jordan Sweeto - niji wave 6
Wolfychu - holo en 3

>>28681506
the actual talented ones are too autistic to hold a conversation with the chat

>kuzuha
>80k


G**a...don't look...

>>28681495
>Niji6
Anyone of merit or renown? Did Sweeto or Wolfychu get in like people were claiming? Any PLs worth laughing about?

>>28681412
Mix and match, but my best guess is that the break helped her refocus, she was in a bit of a slump and needed it.

so will this be the first time for either a gold, cripple or actual, was won purely due to a Z.
is this allowed?

>>28681508
have you cocky retards already forgot about blowing a lead last month

>>28681453
That's why NijiEN is expanding to other markets, not just EN. NijiEN can diversifying their audience while HoloEN will continue to shrink.

AAHAHAHAHAHAHAH KING MOGGED EVERYBODY

>>28681267
>Niji girl
>successful
Next you’ll tell me Tempus will beat out Vox.

Suisei RUST soon. This is a buff game for her.

>>28681559
What's the evidence for fucking Wolfychu to en3 of all things?

>>28681267
I think she has a chance to rival Selen as the top girl in the branch. Reimu is technically "Latina" but not the type that those people typically like, she's a stuck up upper class girl.

>>28681559
Could you imagine the shit storm? Cover madr a stink about Kanata living with Kson for being in different companies. But having a talent actually date another company talent?

>>28681631
>will beat out Vox
is not that hard

>>28681166
LIST OF 100K+ STREAMS
>>28429118
>>28429188

Council 30 days true average
>>28552826 :: Fauna
>>28553802 :: Mumei
>>28554518 :: Kronii
>>28554951 :: Bae
>>28555400 ::Sana
>>28582197

isn't this like her last live stream? not even 10k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyZ3rE1kY-Y

>>28681571
That sweeto guy is in

>>28681581
cripple gold has been won by a botted stream before so yea unfortunatly it will stick

>>28681664
It’s Stars

>suisei is downloading rust

Why are the talented people going to NijiEN instead of HoloEN?

>>28681581
It's happened before, and tallyanon would rather not open that can of worms so he just takes the numbers as they are (understanding that gold medal shit is just nonsense anyways).

>>28681664
>Historically 3view branch beating someone who often breaks 5-digits is not hard
ogey

>>28681695
sweeto is in wave 6
Lando is confirmed to be handman
beyond that it's a bunch of literal whos with sjw leanings

>>28681581
>Luxiem Wave 6 buff hype
I swear to God they always benefit.

>>28681645
Some schizos saw her following Mumei in her youtube account

>>28681734
they arent?

>>28681243
>would it be possible for EN3's debut numbers to be lower than Council's
I would be surprised if they weren't. EN management hasn't done a good job operating the branch and the lack of consistent streams from the most popular talents hurts holoEN's visibility. I'm not saying this as a niji agent or something it's just that the holoEN brand doesn't have the same shine to it as it did between Myth's and Council's debuts. EN3 being a flop would put holoEN on a permanent recline that they can't recover from.

>>28681757
she's also following vox so

>>28681540
MiComet Vs PekoMatsuri or PEBOT, 楽しみぺこ!

>>28681755
>Wave 6 buff hype with Z

>>28681734
The males are because there's more earning potential and collaborations with cute girls. The girls are just Holorejects or whores who can't even roleplay as seiso.

>>28681734
Like?

>>28681690
She has to rely on a lot of tourists to get numbers, and they aren't really seeing that as the last stream or know that it's the last one.

>>28681785
Ntr time

>>28681609
ESL HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>28681757
damn I convinced this is irrefutable

>>28681771
That's why NijiEN has been expanding outside of EN market. Just like how they started with KR and ID, Anykara is aiming for ES and EU.
Cover can only follow behind.

>>28681540
>>28681797
Didn't subaru announced that she is joining the rust hype too?

>>28681734
Talent at being a good Vtweeter?

EN3 is gonna mog Wave 6

>>28681609
Maybe, most of them are still just kicking rocks tho, only China has proven successful and that was completely by accident, not because any members of Luxiem have any innate connection or appeal to China. They haven't accumulated any meaningful French, Russian, Swedish, Spanish, Hmong, or Japanese audience. You could argue they got flips, but not because of Millie since her audience is still tiny, and flips and indogs will watch any English speaker vtubers just by default.

>>28681594
Keep seething retard

>>28681654
It's like Romeo and Juliet

>>28681471
>where are my band heads? where the rockers at? where the musically inclined vtubers at?
Anon what are those? Instrument based music died like 10 years ago kids just steal loops from old songs and scream PUSSY ASS WEED for 2-3 minutes.

>>28681453
I don't want to live in a world where NijiEN6's debuts peak higher than the future EN3's because of twitter tourists and because HoloEN can't manage hype for shit.
Hurts to know that it's even possible.

>>28681854
Pokimane is part of EN3

>>28681734
Talented?

>>28681243
>so would it be possible for EN3's debut numbers to be lower than Council's?
It will, the hype for the holoEN brand has calmed down a lot in the past year, other companies have risen and lockdowns stopped being a thing, so less people are watching streams

>>28681879
NijiEN is blowing up in Latam already

>Sana has terminal spine cancer
>IRyS permanently damaged her vocal cords and has to go through intense pain to record anything
>Kronii has severe depression and contemplates suicide every day
>Mumei has spent most of her life in a hospital bed and even now requires regular dialysis sessions
>Bae has a developmental disease that puts her mental age at 11
>Fauna is vegan
How did CouncilRyS end up like this?

>>28681871
No one watches EN besides Gura.

Oh yeah btw guys, NOTRushia still ended her main content before Pekora started her stream and NotRushia finished her superchat reading 30 minutes after Pekora's stream started. I'm still buying the subconscious 3rd gen funnel theory.

>>28681734
Because they know in NijiEN they'll be more successful than as Homostar

>>28681871
Here's your EN3

>>28681690
Nigger why are you like this ??

>>28681737
has it.
the only time i remember streams that got gold and had a Z was where they would have gotten gold regardless of the Z and it just resulted in a higher peak

>>28681609
Why nijikeks always talk like this.

>>28681897
>blew a 10-2 lead
blew a 10-2 lead
>blew a 10-2 lead
blew a 10-2 lead
>blew a 10-2 lead
blew a 10-2 lead
>blew a 10-2 lead
blew a 10-2 lead
>blew a 10-2 lead
blew a 10-2 lead

>>28681923
isn't she only popular because of her looks, does she have any talent?

>>28681859
North America(China)

Why do people keep thinking en3 going to flop. When have the third branch of an hololive gen every flop third gen changed the game made the concept of unity and some of hololive strongest talents. Hololive ID 3 broke into the actually ID market for an vtuber and met with great success and incline the whole branch. So why are people doubting hololive en 3?

>>28681581
Already happened plenty of times, the last one being not even a week ago. Pekora beat Ibrahim's peak but the latter Z'd 5 times and beat Pekora by 4~k.

>>28681955
>Fauna is vegan
kek

>>28681859
There will not be an "EU" branch, for Nijisanji or for Hololive. An EN gen of european based talents sure, but not a separate branch.

>>28681609
Hololive actually reached to other markets though, passively. Before Nijisanji was heard, every other country including China bowed to Hololive. Now you're saying Nijisanji is doing a good thing to pander every region when nina doesn't even do RU streams anymore.

>>28681757
That's nothing then. People said similar thing that sweeto will be in starsEN. Apperently Mumei knowed them in past

>>28681963
can't wait for aq*a to stream apex over a nazuna stream and cause her to go on a menhera rant

>>28681871
I don't really care if they are going to mog ILUNA or not. I just want them to get a Koyori or a Kaela and just stream.

>>28681267
Imagine if Mori gets mogged by discount cardi b

>>28681955
Kek

>>28681955
>Fauna is vegan
NOOOOOO

king 80k on 2nd year rolls

>>28681984
see >>28681341
this is not jsut a ritualpost, it's a statement of fact

>>28681986
If you call leeching to bigger male streamers talent, then yeah lol.

>>28681734
You consider coombaiting a talent?

>>28681918
I'll be surprised if Wave 6 even gets Noctyx's numbers. We'll see but we haven't seen a big stream for Luxiem in quite a long time.

>>28681734
Everyone got doxxed, there's nothing talented about them.

>>28681958
Why the fuck you lying. Even unshared HoloEN consistently is only behind HoloJP in terms of their median CCV.

>>28681911
i just want good vtuber songs to listen to for once. all the processed pop rap shit is tiring to listen to.

>>28681995
EN1 has no comparison to JP1.
EN2 has no comparison to JP2.

>>28681955
>Bae has a developmental disease that puts her mental age at 11

If the Latina is a rapper then where can i hear her stuff

>>28681975
So Bae gets 3 nepotism hires.

>>28681995
We're not saying EN3 will flop, we're saying their debuts might not beat Council's because HoloEN's ceilings have been weak lately and it doesn't feel like getting 90k is as easy as it used to be.
Won't be the first time it happened since ID3 all got lower debut peaks than ID2, but we all know how they turned out in the end in terms of daily numbers.

>>28681734
Kek talented ? AHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHHAAHAHAHA

>>28681581
I'm the EN tally guy and I do not count Z's. I will use Luca's and Vox's pre-Z peak so Ina will win gold today.

>>28681943
Citation Needed

>>28681955
>Fauna is vegan
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>28681412
nousagi here, didnt even watch her before the break because content was shit. I can watch rust.

Anykara might be 23%-ish Chinese owned now up from 18%.

>>28681734
damn maybe i can get injo nijien now since i can probably fujobait

>>28682156
shoo

>>28681985
What is Bronze boi going to do without Koshien carrying his ass in late August though...

>>28681984
>>28681976

Nijiniggers has always been like this

>>28681984
They literally can't talk about their nijis without shitting down Hololive
Hololive is truly living inside their heads

>>28681985
Riku sama only can botted 1 stream at a time
please understand

>>28682154
Vox is talent and he took en gold today.
Keep seething.

So who in NijiEN has tge potential to hold a Sololive?

>>28681412
Desperation.
The rabbit feared the break will kill her numbers, so prepared a fuck ton of 3D and collabs to her return.

The escalation of sana's graduation rrats has been truly astonishing (and quite hilarious) to see. They went so quickly from "she can't balance art work and streaming" to "degenerative back problems" to "SANA HAS TERMINAL CANCER, EVERYTHING ELSE HAS FAILED, SURGERY WITH ONLY 20% CHANCE OF SURVIVAL, 100% DYING BEFORE THE ACTUAL GRADUATION STREAM"
like,,,, ffffucking hell mate... for all we know, she might be already dead and all this shit has been prerecorded....

>>28681955
>Fauna is vegan
NOOOOOO SOMEBODY PLEASE SAVE HER AAAAAAAAA

>>28682110
EN1 mostly solo streamers
JP1 mostly solo streamers
EN2 hardly streams except for 1
JP2 hardly streams except for 1

>>28681955
>Fauna is vegan
HOW DARE SHE?!

>>28682149
Has nothing to do with Holo EN ceiling it's just the vtuber market in the west, the same market that propped up ID2's debuts (also they were the last pre-cull vtuber debuts).

>>28682184
why?

>>28682209
That's sad...

>>28681955
>druid
>vegan
Fitting

>>28682235
It's called a Liverlive for Nijis.

>>28681963
Nah perhaps that's just her streaming habit after 3 years working in Hololive

>>28681734
Every one of the new wave got doxxed. They are all Literal Whos. Talent my ass.

>>28682243
I mean the rabbit doing shit was one thing, but the viewership pattern is different thing. I was more wondering why her viewership are active even in her non collab streams(just look how fast she can get her peaks in her minecraft streams after her break and compare them to post chicken minecraft streams)

>>28682184
ah yeah that on HK company bought their stock right ?

>>28682220
>Vox talented
AHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAAHHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

So which one the NijiEN wave 6 is the talented one.

Place your bet: Who will get 3D debuts first, Lazulight or IrysCouncil?

What's wrong with vegan?

>>28681654
TRIBALFAGS BTFO
UNITY CHADS ARE WINNING

>>28682368
Which chicken? The cold one or the one from Myth?

>>28682400
They rather eat grass than touch it

>>28682235
Luxiem performance in Shanghai

>>28682400
Look at Emma Watson

>>28682378
wolfychu's bf maybe going by the numbers
i don't watch any of them so who knows what kind of stream they'll do

>>28682393
The closer we are to another HoloFes, the bigger chances are it's gonna be IrysCouncil.

>>28682400
People hate them for the same reason as Fauna does, they are fucking loud and obnoxious about it.

>>28681267
This is bullshit by the way

>>28682265
The vtuber market in the west is stagnant because HoloEN hasn't debuted anyone in a year. There's still an audience out there (you can argue people who fell off or new people) and it's just about finding more talent to attract viewers.
Many days we get shit like 1 10k HoloEN stream when we know that timeslot can support 20-30k.

This thread is a fucking battlefield

>>28681734
Who is talented in that wave?

>>28682220
>He took EN gold today
Thanks to a Z which will no longer count for the Tally. Ina won EN gold today.

>>28681995
There's no trend of every holoEN gen doing better than the previous one, and unlike JP in its early days holoEN doesn't stream, doesn't have events, doesn't do special content, it's just fucking nothing. It's like the branch is dead in the water waiting for something to save it.

>>28682377
You can only laugh at him when you make 80k+ a month

>>28682393
IRyS/Council. Lazulight is still in the queue and there's no rush to work on their 3D since Japan won't be open anytime soon. There isn't really a queue in Hololive at this point and ID2 and Council might well be done at this and just waiting for sometime to debut. IRyS will probably has some additional lag time due to her redesign.

what do numberfags think talent is? because if niji number autists think vox winning EN cripple gold means he's talented im losing faith in this board

>>28682501
Calm down Pomu, nothing is really happening yet.

>>28682484
Ah the classic source: voices in my head. I’m going to start saying Mori is actually A-Chans girlfriend, say I have proof from her roommate and see how many people believe it.

>>28682433
cold chicken.

>>28682025
Nina used to pander to EU with russian and french streams and had based taste in video games but she threw it all away when Luxiem debuted and now if her streams isn't remotely about the boys she is between Finana and Reimu tier

>>28682495
That effect is far smaller than the fact that it was a briefly a big fad, people checked it out, and many of them got their fill and moved on. You have a core of fans that remain. That's the nature of any popular media trend.

>>28682607
There's a reason /#/ always shit on nijiniggers but not nijifans

>>28682607
He didn't even win EN Gold. He only achieved his peak due to a Z which I will no longer count in the tally. Unlike a stream being "botted" a Z is easy enough to spot with the graph so disqualifying the "Z" peak and counting their pre-Z peak will be a super easy process.

>>28682548
Are you serious? Or are you just shitposting? The way Nijiniggers talk reminds of my Pakistani friend who became retarded after he got raped by a Local Maulana

>>28682648
To be fair, the French streams got very meh numbers (only people who speak French are French, some Canadians/Swiss/Belgians, and a lot of black people) and Russian streams went out the window for very obvious reasons.

>>28682209
Sounds like someone hired to shill

>>28681734
Lie:verse Liars

>>28682726
are you tally anon? if not im taking your words with a grain of salt

>>28682607
Ah yes, the old "Basement neckbeard loser on 4chan calls 'talentless' the successful popular people on the internet" time loop.

>>28682775
Didn't she also do a yab in russian that didn't get caught by the manger since no one talked russian?

>>28682501

>>28681743
yes, seethe more pls

>>28682775
>the French streams got very meh numbers
And that's why I keep telling people that eurotubing should use english.

Since the EN market is dead, is NijiEN realizing this and slowly expanding to more local markets to capture more fans?
If that's the case, they are pretty smart.

>>28682393
Uproar

>>28682726
Glad somebody is stepping up and doing this. I get the "just let it roll" when it comes to botted streams since those are way too subjective. However, there is nothing subjective about a Z. It's pretty blatant and in your face and is easy enough to filter out. Have been begging regular tally anon to disqualify Z's for a while.

>>28682726
tallies just report the numbers as given by youtube, changing numbers to suit personal agendas is stupid

>>28682680
What you're describing sounds like what happened to Niji and Salome.
It's all about finding new blood to either attract those old viewers back or break new ground. We know EN3 will have their own core fanbases anyways so it'll be a net increase regardless.
People thought ID was saturated at first too, but I'm sure when ID4 rolls around, their debuts will beat ID2's because of Kobo.

>>28682607
No one thinks someone is talented just because they get numbers (or at least I believe that is the case from being here since the start). What people want to see is talented people being rewarded for their effort when they get their chance and they take it.

Right now, you can see Magni as an expression of that.

>kson has 5k ccv
Vshojo did boosting her number holyshit

>>28682894
This honestly, i don't get why people think you have to pander to specific euro languages when practically everyone has english as a second language unless they are clinically retarded.

Real question: why did Miko rape Peko? They could've take things slowly, instead now Pekora won't even acknowledge that Miko exists.

>>28682872
told you he would screen cap his own posts and then spread it around blaming /#/ to get this place raided

>>28682933
what about tally anon's personal agenda against elves
fucking dwarfs manipulating numbers !!!

>>28682863
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAqAZVR0FrY

Since nijiEN can't compete with Hololive in the EN market anymore, have they just resorted to sour grapes lies and fud?

>>28682933
sorry but your bots wont be counted anymore

Serious question, what the hell is ESL?

>>28682933
The Z isn't a personal agenda. It's a very solid and real thing that shows up on a graph. There is nothing subjective about the appearence of a Z. In the past when people have asked for the disqualification of botted streams it leads to discussion about "ok, what is a botted stream? How does it show up? Why do you think it's botted".

None of that with a Z. It's pretty fucking blatant when it happens and leaves nothing for interpretation.

>>28682917
They're slowly adding more and more Spanish members. Strong chance a Spanish Gen will debut 2023

Tempus twitters are so cringe and their models so bad, makes you wonder how they took 5 months to release them.

>>28682726
Do you actually believe the retarded tally anon would do something about it?

>>28683111
Ethiopian Steals Luggage

>>28683111
Extra Special Lube. Its included in every Nijisanji birthday merch

>>28683111
English as a second language

>>28683111
European Super League, the one that Perez want to starts.

>>28682933
The fact that you keep arguing for clearly faulty numbers only discredits you, if a holo would win a gold based on a fucking z we would also exclude that, but they don't.

ALMOST THERE, THEY TRULY BELONG TO EACH OTHER

>>28683147
In practice she won't stream much if any in Spanish, just watch.

>>28683001
Your bait threads get deleted nowadays so you keep posting that garbage here everyday now? Pathetic. Pekora just noticed how much of a leech that whore is so she stays away from her now. And it's a based move imo, this makes all the PekoMikotards seethe hard and she can enjoy playing with other Holomembers without giving a damn about shippers.

>>28683111
Estoy Super Loca

>>28683111
It means SEAni-

>>28683206
I'm gonna be contrarian here and say it would be a good thing to have another league, just the greedy FCs boycotted it.

>>28683154
>nijinigger
have you seen your new waves tweets or do you not acknowledge them

>>28683154
Seethe about it nijikek

There nothing wrong with Z youtube ccv always been an messed up but the fact an nijisanji en member won by an z makes you want to get rid of them speaks an ton about this thread behavior. How even with nijisanji en wins fair and square you fuckers get salty and says it does not count that just sad.

>>28683111
Ethyria Soon Ligma

>>28683116
yes but then you have the would it wouldn't it have improved its peak without the Z, do you then go through every single graph changing the Z peaks or only the ones that win gold also arguements about what exactly a Z is since there is some fucked variations of it

>>28683111
Extraordinary Short-tongue Lesbian!

IT'S MIGO!!!!

>>28683351
fucking terrible bait, how is this not just shitting up the thread for no reason

>>28680398
>>28680593
>Junsgang
>>28680669
>Jun's gang
>>28680917
>I reported the video but I'm not in whatever that Jung thing is,
YES, YES; DENY EVERYTHING!

>>28683111
Elite Super Language

>>28683154

>>28683301
Mother fucker you do know they knew each other for years before hololive right? Miko had to fuck it all up why

>>28683398
I hope no one is dumb enough to actually bite. it's not even trying.

>>28683242
we didn't discount the gold that was won by Z the other day

>>28681975
>two flips
No thank you

>>28683469
Show it.

>Salome premiering another video for Raw Danger
I respect her dedication to finishing that fucking kusoge when nobody gives a shit about it even if it kills her channel

>>28683469
Enfag is so invested in cripple gold.

>>28683111
Newfagchama...

>>28683325
Ok Perez

>>28683398
>>28683450
You fucker prove my point what wrong with an z. Hololive has them to so they should count for the tally. It's just funny the day nijisanji en wins gold it suddenly becomes an problem.

>>28683373
We have seen plenty of streams that have hit a new peak after being hit with a Z. Obviously in those cases the new peak will be the one used. I'm just talking about the most blatant Z's that we saw today. Where viewership shoots up by thousands, immediately collapses down, and never recovers. The classic Z like that will no longer be considered for peak CCV.

>>28683434
Don't care about what they used to be, but if you had even paid any attention to their relationship on NND you would have noticed who was the real problem already.

>>28683503
Salome is such a tragic case study in how to waste all attention brought by a debut.

>>28683248
Jesus christ, you fuckers just kiss already and make up. I won't be surprised if hololive literally ends up falling apart because of these two idiots,

>>28683111
Damn, Magni brings so many newfags, he's definitely the Gura killer.

>>28683497
14) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 54,165 - Niji Koshien practice

>>28683503
She doesnt have a manager? why is nijisanji so incompetent?

>>28683248
MIKO HATE

>>28683600
And Sakamata Chloe

>>28683600
Daijobu anon, she will do her karaoke/rhythm heaven stream soon. That will fix it surely.

>>28683669
MIKO LOVE

>>28683640
I don't acknowledge that one and it's also that one that started this whole shitshow because the tip of the Z was the winning factor.

>>28683704
Anon, Chloe is so popular even fucking ghosts can't get away from her

>>28683633
So Magni is the new boogeyman after Kobo. And he's not even debut yet. MAGCHADS HOW ARE WE FEELING ????

>>28681734
>talent
>nijen

are you goddamn sure anon? tell me just ONE chuubas from nijien that actually have talent

I think Nijisanji won't make it to 2023 bros. All the signs point to it. Not even shitposting.

>>28683111
Entitled Sex League

>>28683600
No one will beat Gura when it comes to wasting virality buffs.

Migo 30k get

>>28683669
seethe nigger Miko 30k

>>28683482
Youre getting two flips and you will be forced to like it

>wake up
>all of tempus has been passed probably a couple hours ago
>sub 12 hour vs. 60 hours
best of luck stars boys

>>28683111
Eurochads Sucking Large (tiddies).

>>28683580
well if you wanna do it go ahead, good luck trying to determine what the actual peaks are on nijimale mountain graphs

God fucking dammit slipkochi!

>>28683795
Her buffs at least trickled out to hololive, Salome's tourist went to fucking hololive instead of nijisanji

>>2868370
>>28683600
To give these two defense, anyone would have a hard time thinking of the direction of their content if they just get handed out a huge fucking number out of nowhere without rhyme or reason. Someone who had like backlog of content or data to work with like Pekora or Kuzuha probably have better chances of handling their blowout moment than new debuts.

>>28683619
Them kissing is what started this problem...
They will make up eventually.

>>28683795
This. Salami os just inexperience. But Goomba is washed up and just want to hide behind her shrimp only stream

>>28683503
The golden rule about kusoges is that playing it once and laugh how bad they are is good.
But making a series of it is pure channel-killing poison.

Too bad Nijisanji management is inept, Salome deserves a bitch slap for streaming such garbage, and this is not only raw danger but also her reading streams, other premiers and shilling hygiene products which killed her massive growth

>>28683747
MAGnificent

>>28683747
MAGGOTS ALWAYS WINNING

>>28683844
JunsGang already reported NijiEN6 for botting.

>>28683248
It's like goku and vegeta.

>>28683765
There's a half-dozen once prominent Japanese vtuber companies dragging their carcasses along the ground for years, there's nothing that would shutter Nijisanji in 4 months other than like the Japanese government shutting them down for some kind of crime.

>>28683883
Technically Miko did the making out part against Pekora's will.

>>28683111
Español
Sopa de macaco
Latin

basically, languages that are not English

>>28683901
Someone actually recommended that series to IRyS when she asked for games to play...I wanted to reach through the internet and punch them.

>HoloEN appearing on a Niji stream
OH NO NO NO NIJIMANAGEMENT DON'T LOOK

>>28683704
It is not her fault. She is working hard but ghost happened.

>>28683795
Sorry but nobody will surpass Kronii at self debuff.
All the clockbitch had to was play Minecraft, but instead settled for breaks, zatsus and intentional overlaps.

>>28684043
SHUT IT DOWN!

>>28684014
It's a great game and she brought it up first

>>28684043
wait what

>>28681985
other than kuzuha, the other niji chuubas can't break through 10k holy fuck riku what are you doing

>>28683901
Also don't forget that premier is fucking dinasaur shit content Salome should've sticked to livestreaming more to increase her chat interactions.

>>28683881
>Salome's tourist went to fucking hololive instead of nijisanji
I need number to back this up.

>>28683747
Most influential handtuber

>>28684043
cute shark, I will watch Hololive now

>>28684043
I wonder if she just found out like right there...

Which song is the best? Also why didn't Council have a group song? Myth got one

>>28684043
YAGOOOO I KNEEEEELLL

>>28684043
AHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>28684043
Yagoo-sama onegai. Trade the draft picks for Sanbaka

>>28683747
>>28684109
What will his numbers be when he's gonna do a cooking stream or even a card opening on stream? Guy should get a huge amount of number with that buff.

>>28684043
is this considered cuckshit?

>>28684043
>Kiara appearing in NijiJP shill stream before in Pomu's stream
what did they mean by this

>>28684208
Isn't Ange into that?

>>28684108
It's mostly a joke by most anon about how Pekora's numbers have been good lately at breaking her collab records and getting high non-collab numbers and that this is caused by her leeching Salome's tourists.

>>28684156
>Myth got one
Myth's one was paid by the members so technically none of them got group songs. But hey, we got cringe lore videos so yay?

>>28684156
they have orisongs, how many orisongs nijimales have?

Reminder that Luca appeared on Kuzuha stream. This is nothingburger you retarded Holofags.

>>28684221
Maybe NijiEN management were the ones responsible for all the blocking after all... JP chads would never stoop so low after all.

>>28684043
well that's embarrassing? imagine doing a sponsor stream for a rival company collab
anyways i bet every niji JP channel thread discord whatever is seething not only because of hololive but especially its a fucking EN

>>28684103
Ars almal can but she need to leach of k4sen

>>28684298
>nijicoping this hard
HAHAHAHAAHAHA

>>28684043
>Inb4 its fake
ISRAEL https://youtu.be/rJ5RuRqRurs?t=2460

>>28683154
oh nijisister your baits are not working

>kaela absorb kobo's numbers
the table has turned

>>28684221
OH NOOOOO NIJIEN BLOCK THE COLLAB?????

>>28684043
fire noor already

>>28684310
NijiEN are bitter fucks that avoid HoloEN because of their ties to mihoyo and china

https://twitter.com/rukanazumi/status/1549579056236007425
>Even nijifans are getting tired of the gay tweeting

>>28684156
They all suck so hard. Why can't any fucking NijiEN sing?

>>28684108
It's a joke. If she really did steal all those new tourist that Salome brought, then she would have reach 2 million subs already.

>>28684043
HOLY

>>28684298
Is Nijicoping part of the X Games. You seem to wanna make it an extreme sport.

I'm cumming at the thought of some niji elitist fuming and being passive aggressive about that blunder at their discord because of that

>>28684371
Kaela is with miko right now if im not mistaken.

>>28684221
we already know nijiEN is the one blocking the collabs so

>>28684371
Kaela is interacting with Miko right now.

Holofags are fucking hilarious you guys do know that the shoe going to be on the other foot. Your going to see fucking gura shill this and guess who apart of elira and shu. So thanks in advanced for the shoutout loser.

>>28684043
all according to plan

>>28684371
Migo buff

>>28684371
It has been 2.5 hours of JP collab, they want something fresh

>>28684395
To be fair you can still make that "theory" work by saying tourists don't instantly sub or hasn't sub to Pekora yet and that in her case it's like PekoMiko overlap situation, but in this case Pekora is the second choice to Salome and the tourist use Pekora as a huge waiting room.

>>28684043
YAGOO-SAN!!!!!!

>>28684546
Yagooo san sugooiiii

>>28683704
anon.. she's like the top chuubas that other chuubas outside of hololive would wished for

>>28684389
I guess the cooming must end at some time

Magni is the Musashi Gundoh of vtubing?

Volt Tackle at 3k

>>28684389
https://twitter.com/rukanazumi/status/1549579056236007425/retweets/with_comments
Surprisingly most of the QRTs are agreeing with them.

>>28684625
So is Salome

>>28684508
holy cope!

>>28684508
Nijitard... You really think cumpedos would bother watching ANYONE ELSE besides their reclining shark? You're losing on this no matter what you think.

>>28684508
Not gonna happen anon because kiara and gura are the last two players to shill it

>>28684508
>the shoe going to be on the other foot
Funny you fucking say this anon, I guess you weren't there in 2019 when Niji was the on the other foot.

>>28684043
Just like I've planned

>>28684508
>Gura
>streaming
Lmao

miko lost a few thousand, is it because of mio starting?

>>28684692
do you really think gura, fucking gura will shill this? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>28684389
Wtf based fujos?

>>28684677
Why doesn't she open memberships?
It's literal free money

I have no doubt Fubuki will play the cat game for her old memes alone.

>>28684389
>almost 1k likes
Oof

>>28684797
Probably(also it's pretty late), also stray has the day 1 buff at the moment. Alot of streamers are playing it today for some reason.

fucking kaela 5k on minecraft and she is interacting with miko a lot rn

>>28681984
A dispassionate fanbase made up of pure contrarians will do that to you.

>>28684917
Miko is robbing Kaela and she can only says I love you

>>28684797
>Migo couldn't even beat Salmonella to reach the podium, even when leeching off Kaela on Minecraft
Never change Slipkochi

>>28684199
Still don't know if he's Landon or not. I'll tell you my prediction after debut

>>28684917
She gave her elytra.....

>>28684797
Probably some of them goes to Kaela

>>28684797
she's interacting with Kaela right now and alot of people are multitabbing

>>28684929
Holy parasite

>>28684480
>>28684506

Does Miko want her own ID Minecraft autist serf?

>>28684917
>interacting with Miko
No wonder her viewership if good then. Hololive Minecraft revolves around Pekora, Miko, and Aqua. Unless one of those three is doing something in Minecraft than it isn't a much bigger buff game than anything else. Those three are teh heart and soul of Holo Minecraft.

>>28684247
Yeah...

Pekora > Marine > Salome > Miko > Korone

>>28684929
I FUCKING HATE VTUBER NEWFAGS WHO THINK NIJISANJI IS THE "UNDERDOG" OF THE INDUSTRY THEY WEREN'T HERE WHEN THEY NIJI WAS STOMPING ON THE THROAT OF 5 HEAVENLY KINGS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>28684389
I keep telling you guys, this the gen that pulls the final yab and turns NijiEN into the same old western virtue signaling bullshit YASSSS QUEEEN political tweeting org that every other western entertainment organization has become. Meanwhile Stars and Live EN will continue to chug along as the funny quirky stress escape that it's always been.

>>28685070
Which part though? Getting cucked or cucking?

>>28685067
>Aqua
Your streaming company can't revolve around someone who doesn't stream.

>>28685080
BronzeBoi...

>>28683062
I was only passively dismissive of this bitch but this crosses a line.
I will actively shit on her from now on.

>>28685112
A-atleast he has his koshien anon.

>>28684508
if you watched ange's stream you would realize she was doing a mirror distribution of the announcement stream

>>28684108
>>Salome's tourist went to fucking hololive instead of nijisanji
>I need number to back this up.
There is no numeric evidence to corrobor-
> WAIT A MINUTE!
WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT

>Salome debut coincides PERFECTLY with Pekora break
>Salome recline coincides PERFECTLY with Pekora return
>Pekora and Salome reclined and re-inclined at the EXACT same moments in time

I know perfectly this is just a coincidence but, IMAGINE IF REAL....

>>28684797
probably, both Pekora and Miko lost 2k after Mio started

>>28685080
>Korone
Anon...

>>28685065
She is blonde and boing boing.

>>28681267
> First original son "VAP" now on Spotify!

>>28685153
They don't even stream in remotely similar timeslots so extremely unlikely.

>>28684917
Remember niji ID laugh at holo ID??

>>28685067
>Aqua
she hasn't been active for almost 2 years now anon

>>28684389
OH NO NO NO HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>see okay the new holo guys might not have good models but they're tweeting about bionicles and warrior cats and yours are an hour into debut talking about fucking and sucking each other
>also before this gets out of hand: I AM A NIJI FAN! I don't hate this new wave I just have eyes and a brain and can see the difference between them.

>>28683416
I reported it entirely out of salt over others not getting away with it.

>Miko calls Kaela 'senpai', cries that she doesn't want to leave the ID server, and that she saw God there
Indochads?

>>28683747
MOST.KINO.THREAD!

>>28685091
>one of the new tranny homo things tries to put out a gay tranny pride stream and gets shut down by Niji management
>makes a tweet saying they're working for a bigoted company and gets fired
>massive Twitter shitstorm ensues
It's gonna be glorious.

>Pekora is finally able to pilot the helicopter properly
She's growing, I'm crying...

>>28684668
super buff game + collab + debut buff = 3K
JESAS

>>28685078
Not anymore nigger. Now join /mag/ we got everything from boobies to balls

Just a rrat but hear me out:
>Nothing happened between Miko and Pekora
>They don't collab because they are raising a box of their own
>PekoMari faction
>Micomet faction
>The members of each faction can collab with anyone but the chiefs won't so they can actively starving the fanbase while growing the boxes
>2022 Sport fest
>Team Miko vs Team Pekp
>Both team tied near the end of the event
>A-chan set up a final duel between the leaders to decide the winner
>Double KO
>PekoMiko reconciliation
>200k CCV

once again, nijiCHADS status?

>>28685262
Imagine watching the Cold Chicken rabbit, lmao. Did she ever explain why she didn't stream on Christmas Eve or do you just easily accept being a cuck?

>>28684672
It will get boring when those jokes are already played out on twitter and then there's an entire wave who has 1 personality only

>>28681979
iirc Snake lady's botted stream got 2nd place, only barely missing out gold to Mio.
And I think the 11$ got EN gold for Millie.

>>28685313
Why do i feel like we loss??

>>28685318
>didn't make it to #1
RiP

>>28685312
And then celebratory 3d make out sex. 500k ccv.

>>28685165
still a solid 20k streamer

>>28685318
Who the fuck listens to Coldplay?

>>28681734
> Talented

>>28685260
Man, next pride month is gonna be something.

>>28685091
I'm waiting for the half-Viet thot to groom some Vietfags and actually start a war with Luxiem chink fujos.

>>28681955
>Fauna is vegan
I pray for the day she sees the light and discovers that this meme diet is damaging her body preventing it from absorbing essencial nutrients, before it's too late

>>28685313
Coping, crying, shaking, literally in shambles.

>>28685399
Me.

>>28681955
Story debuff so that EN3 can reclaim the glory.

>>28685318
sugoi..

>>28685103
Isn't Ange a woman? She'd probably be more into the whole "I'm being taken" part of the whole ordeal of most of the stories that involve NTR.

>>28681581

>>28685103
Maybe the cucking, she also likes kurosu gatari doujins.

>>28684838
No idea, but some Nijis just don't do it.
Mito and Mayuzumi never opened memberships either.

>>28684668
already reclined hard I see

>>28685256
they're taking over the chat lmao

>>28685424
Apparently semen is acceptable for vegans so i will feed her some nutrients.

>>28685335
To be fair, horny tweeting is like a vtuber pre-debut tradition, even Holos do it.
Remember when Sana was being weird about want to lick Fauna's feet pre-debut? Or Ina was flirting with Ame?
This Nijiwave is taking it way too far, but it's more surprising that Tempus haven't really been doing it. I'm going to be so sad if these boys end up being 3views.

>>28685420
viet-anon here, i will never watch that half-Viet thot anyway

>>28685497
>venezuela again
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

>>28685318
Is this international? Beating BTS was always a pipedream so that's not bad.