/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>28657575
god I hope not, his voice gave me cancer

Reminder to never trust posts coming from the Lie:Verse. If it has no screencap or cannot be verified, assume that it is a Nijinigger trying to shit up the thread.

Nerver trust Nijiliars

>>28656655
So this suppose to be impressive?

Darkskinned nijiEN is gonna be like nina right? She has that wine aunt energy

* YESTERDAY'S FINAL TALLY *

>62,890: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>45,802: Suisei (Hololive)
>39,934: Salome (Nijisanji)
>39,429: Pekora (Hololive)
>38,090: Tamaki (NoriPro)
>36,815: Tsukasa (Indie)
>34,416: Pekora (Hololive)
>32,780: Miko (Hololive)
>32,595: Maimoto (Nijisanji)
>26,350: Laplus (Hololive)
>25,603: Mumei (Hololive)
>18,748: Patra (774 Inc.)
>17,910: Towa (Hololive)
>16,491: Luca (Nijisanji)
>15,433: Mayuzumi (Nijisanji)
>14,835: Uki (Nijisanji)
>14,666: Iroha (Hololive)
>14,205: Lize (Nijisanji)
>13,186: Reid (Neo Porte)
>12,513: Koyori (Hololive)
>12,276: Laplus (Hololive)
>12,209: Matsuri (Hololive)
>11,156: Kronii (Hololive)
>10,914: Koyori (Hololive)
>10,281: Akira (Nijisanji)
>10,257: Sana (Hololive)

>>28657575
Why would someone with over 2 million subs join Holostars?

>>28657776
>>28657865
If you go to his twitter he repeatedly RT's someone who's a vtuber, so he's absolutely familiar with it. No clue who she is though since his channel follows her too and she's from Australia also

>>28657850
>JULY 2022 GOLDS
1) Miko (Hololive) - 43,044 - HoloCure
2) Subaru (Hololive) - 66,433 - Birthday stream
3) AZKi (Hololive) - 74,504 - 3D birthday live
4) Tsukasa (Indie) - 41,447 - Streamer league mahjong
5) Mayuzumi (Nijisanji) - 57,985 - Meschers off-collab
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - Drinking talk w/Laplus
7) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - DQ11 casino w/Noel
8) Salome (Nijisanji) - 37,023 - Unpacking
9) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 164,013 - Koshien 2022 draft
10) Shion (Hololive) - 48,313 - 1 million subs celebration totsumachi
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 61,665 - Clubhouse 51 totsu
12) Shiina (Nijisanji) - 49,387 - Niji Koshien practice
13) Pekora (Hololive) - 70,402 - Uno collab w/Marine, Botan & Polka
14) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 54,165 - Niji Koshien practice
15) Natsume (Nijisanji) - 48,192 - 3D debut
16) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 70,166 - Niji Koshien practice
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 142,833 - 3rd anniversary 3D live
18) Mel (Hololive) - 67,290 - 4th anniversary 3D live
19) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 62,890 - Niji Koshien

>PER COMPANY
10x: Hololive
8x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie

>PER STREAMER
5x: Pekora
2x: Ibrahim
1x: AZKi, Kuzuha, Mayuzumi, Mel, Miko, Natsume, Nijisanji, Salome, Shiina, Shion, Subaru, Tsukasa

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
128x: Hololive
61x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
3x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
23x: Pekora
16x: Aqua, Salome
13x: Kuzuha, Miko
9x: Subaru
6x: Hal
5x: Kanata, Marine
4x: Gura, Hololive, Mio, Suisei, Toya
3x: Chloe, Choco, Flare, Nijisanji, Okayu
2x: Ange, Fuwa, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Polka, Towa, Ibrahim
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, AZKi, Botan, Chronoir, Debi, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa,, Iroha, Kaida, Laplus, Masaru, Mayuzumi, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Noel, Roboco, Rushia, Sango, Shiina, Shion, Sora, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

>>28657373
The issue with HoloEN is there's no box to build when half the roster is MIA/injured/resting almost all the time. It took HoloJP years to build a roster big enough for weekly events.
HoloID had a similar problem until they found their Gura and a few consistent stream monsters to make up for the deadweights.

>>28657637
Happened once and she got grossed out by cringe voice requests and added a rule to not request them anymore.
Kinda killed her SC potential along with other factors.

jwu, nijisanji announced wave 6? And with 6 members?

>>28657865
PEWDIEPIE ON STARSEN
YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST

>>28657323
In an alternate universe we got a Kronii who was very similar to how she is now except:
> She streamed Minecraft more consistently in the beginning, including a series on the building of the Bunkeronii, and actually went for the improv "war" opportunity with Fauna
> Did more karaokes (people fucking love her deep voice on certain songs and I think she only ever did like 3 karaokes)
> Did more VA/scenario streams
> Dips into her voice acting skills without cringing at herself to death. e.g. playing along with Gura for kawaii uguu shit and valley girl, we all know she can do it but she chooses not to as Kronii except on rare occasions
> Did a few original songs and covers

I dunno, I think things would have been different if the above happened. But whatever, she's doing fine even if she never hit her full numbers potential

>>28657798
I love this ritual post the most

Haachama 4k on twitch

>>28657743
Sex with blue poison

>>28657743
Final /news/ roundup for 19-07-2022
>>28593844

Additional news
>>28594312
>>28594801
>>28595176

Recent clip numbers
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>>28580098
>>28580362
>>28580412

>>28657743
Link for this nice pic?

>>28657865
Yeah I don't see it, he doesn't have any interest in hololive and follows 2 vtubers, 1 is niji

This is why we never give Nijifans the chance to sperg out.

TEMPLEOS BROS WE'RE GETTING MAGGED HARD BY THESE GENSHIN FUCKS

>>28658072
Anon, click the arrow at the end of the post.

>>28657929
>It took HoloJP years to build a roster big enough for weekly events.
The holoEN box is nowhere near as powerful as the JP one but it is there. Also, accelerating holoEN to niji levels won't get you that, it will only outright kill any box.

>>28657743
True average of CCV, 20 or more streams, July 1 to July 14
>>28395887

LIST OF 100K+ STREAMS
>>28429118
>>28429188

Council 30 days true average
>>28552826 :: Fauna
>>28553802 :: Mumei
>>28554518 :: Kronii
>>28554951 :: Bae
>>28555400 ::Sana
>>28582197

>>28658083
Well before we throw the possibility out of the way, remember that Kobo didn't even know what the fuck vtubers/hololive was. Her friend told her about an audition and that was that. Also Moona didn't even know either from my knowledge, so it's not out of the picture that someone would find interest in the possibility in advancing their career

>>28657964
It's a 50% shitpost that is almost 100% guaranteed to hold true in every thread. I'll keep posting it until the thread shitting stops or I get banned.

>>28658018
Chamers already beating some top vtubers on twitch already LMAO

>>28658177
There's a middle ground. HoloEN have been too slow in general.

>>28657575
hmm, not convinced entirely, mainly because his voice sounds like fujo repellent

>>28657865
If I were a Cover scout, I'd be a little spooked that someone like that would want to join to get close to their oshi. I mean this dude is getting 600k+ views on some of those videos, he wouldn't make those kind of numbers in StarsEN probably ever
I guess you just go for it anyway though and hope it doesn't blow up into some sort of big yab, the rewards of having a proven star content creator join would be too much

I wonder if the homos are gonna be popu....
>>28654967
I think they'll be fine....

>>28658255
I can agree to that, EN3 needed to happen right about now.

>>28658018
She peaked at 4.3k and has been inclining the longer she streams
My fucking knees haachama, she started at barely 2.5k too just a couple of days ago
I really hope she keeps consistent with this, she will easily bring her EOPs back

>>28658255
I just want one breakout star from NijiEN to overtake the NA market. NijiEN needs NA left to complete the domination.

>>28658177
No one is saying they should accelerate to NijiEN levels, but having only a 10-man roster after 2 years is not enough to build any kind of box, especially when they are already overworked and busy outside of streaming.
Mori shouldn't even be streaming rn with how many flights she had to take this month between the states and Japan.

Ame is hosting Chammers on twitch that's why. She's going to be live soon too

Still can't believe HoloJP has triple the fucking ccv of NijiJP and HoloEN doubles NijiEN.

>>28658255
I have to think that the plans for EN3 were slightly derailed by Sana's graduation, about a week or two ago would have been pretty perfect

>>28658376
HAHAHAHAHAHA! That some funny shit

>>28658255
>>28658389
Agree with this
For whatever reason, debut rate in EN is much slower than JP

>>28658389
Cover is unfortunately too incompetent to properly support EN.

>>28658376
>to complete the domination
?

>>28658376
Will literally never ever happen. No NijiEN will ever put up Gura numbers. I don't think another Holo can even put up Gura numbers. The EN market has already peaked.

>>28658376
need someone to compete with gura so she starts working her ass off holy fuck this lazy bitch is so annoying

>>28658255
After myth's success, they should've debuted council within the first 6 months and EN 3 within a year to have enough talents to consolidate the western market. By not doing that they gave up big portions of the EN marketshare to western vtubers after paving the way. StarsEN should've debuted a year ago

>23rd july
>niji debut their new wave to eclipse Tempus
>Omega release the first 3D debut in retalation on the same slot

Have guys overtaken nijiEN?

>>28658376
Not gonna happen when every Niji wave are exactly the same as the previous
All the same old fujo baiting male, loli, shota, gay, etc. Same kind of contents too. Of course not to say this doesn't happen in Holo too but we are talking about Niji now

>>28658555
>So she starts working her ass off
Gura fucking despises numbers and numberniggers
She wishes she had Petra's ccv

>>28658054
this girl looks like the sister from that incest doujin i read the other day...

>>28658461
If you're looking at the averages between branches, that's why you get when you have more shitters than stars. There will never be a point in time where NijiJP or NijiEN's averages will square up with HoloJP or HoloEN, just because deadweights like Reimu and Finana will prevent it from happening.

if you're talking about peaks, the peaks are more comparable on the EN side, like Ina is almost certainly going to slip to Luca today for cripple gold as he approaches 700k subs because ofc he's doing another endurance stream. Not like it matters anyways because Vox is going to beat both cashing in on fresh debut hype tonight.

>>28658624
Yes? The girls became supporting cast almost immediately after Luxiem's debut

>>28658376
You cant have a breakout star with me gay, muh lgbt, booba bussy, me sucky sucky yucky, as your whole personality nijifriend

>>28658607
>omega
>doing anything

>>28658624
isn't it 13 males and 13 girls now
well, i suppose a lot of the males are in the grey area, but still

>>28658376
Any aspirants with talent would rather wait and apply for Hololive so expecting Nijisanji to land any star would be close to impossible.

>>28658630
lazy whore

>>28658630
Funny because Cover seem to DID plan for her to be the lowest
Meanwhile it's clear they want Kiara to be the big one initially. Basically all the mistreament of EN came from the fact that Cover did not plan anything for them at the start and never will

>>28658538
What numbers? Subs or VODs

30k max for tempus
50k max for the female nijien
80k max for the male ones

>>28643841
Their fandom was full of contrarians and had a "no meme" rule because they didn't want the subreddit to be filled with low quality memes (taking a dig at the holo sub, which was partially true but only during the meme review weekends).

They also forced a bunch of talents with zero interest in the EN audience to shill themselves and the entire subreddit was flooded for the first 2 days after they got corporatized, killing any potential new viewer interest in them.
iirc there was around 40 liver posts within 48 hours, the front page was ALL liver posts.
Only two of them still post on reddit, and one of them stopped bothering with translations as well.

And of course once NijiEN (proper) debuted, they started posting memes on the subreddit, officially killing the "no memes" rule. But by then the subreddit was already long dead.

>>28658696
Bent over bitch, im going for anal

>>28658624
All of them recline hard then what? Another new wave?

>>28658696
Fuck off, cuck

>>28658624
sonny's design is so fucking bad

>>28658739
So their entire identity is being Hololive anti?

>>28658768
Fulgur and Uki are worse, mostly because of those belts. Check their full portraits.

>>28658797
just like in here lmao

>>28658729
How the fuck do you plan for someone to be the lowest

>>28658739
Nijisanji management is too incompetent to build a brand. Everything comes off as forced. Hell, even Hoshikawa, the greatest leech vtuber, gave up on EN.

>>28658376
Anon, the current batch is literally "pander to THOSE people". They're all yab machines and that will end up alienating large groups of people that don't necessarily vibe with that kind of thing. It's honestly a hot gamble with low odds of success and high chances of controversy.

Management best be at the ready with the leash on hand.

>>28658739
Like who cares, Reddit doesn't matter in the long run. Twitter is where the majority of activity is at and NijiEN trumps HoloEN on that front.

>>28658624
I never noticed how weird Shu and Mysta's arms were.

>>28658851
Look at Gura's barebone design and rigging, she also doesn't speak a lick of Japanese
You can easily tell who they poured the money in

>>28658752
Luxiem never reclined because of Noctyx, Vox and Mysta have just been overlapping each other for most of their streams this month. They won't recline because of these new people either just like how Kuzuha doesn't recline from new VTA debuts. It's the new debuts that will struggle to find an audience.

>>28658655
vox is gonna get 14k max and then cry about it

>>28658851
I'm sure that ESL anon meant "anticipated" she would be the lowest, and I don't know where they're getting that impression
Gura was the biggest star of all of the Myth's roommates and it wasn't even close, she was in a different universe of popularity compared to the rest of them. She was already a legit (if niche) e-celeb

>>28658925
Kuzuha's SC income did recline tho with the constant overlaps of NijiEN talents.

At least Niji managers are better at advertising their talents

>>28658925
>Vox and Mysta have just been overlapping each other for most of their streams this month
they mostly start one hours after each other
they also peak in the first 30min alwasy

>>28658879
LGBT people actually watch streams and support NijiEN anon. They're also 30% of the global population.

>>28658624
Wait, those two behind mysta and Ike are males????

>>28659033

what is today gold /#/ bros?

EN3 didn't happen because Omega wasn't satisfied with the talent pool.

>>28658464
they might be but no, If starsEN is debuting right now there's no way EN3 will debut within two months either way, that's not how cover rolls

>>28659007
The people who donate to Kuzuha and Luxiem are completely different populations of people. Kuzuha follows the NijiJP pattern of only getting huge SC paydays during special events anyways and for weeks his SC income was 0 because he spammed Elden Ring like a mfer.

>>28657929
>The issue with HoloEN is there's no box
Is there? It feels like in EN the fanbases are actually way closer than on the JP side.
I'd argue that they're actually so close it becomes a problem and that's why overlap hurts them so much, and events with multiple ENs don't attract that many more viewers compared to JP.

>>28659033
I don't know about that. Didn't they ostracised most of their prominent lgbt supporters like Finana, Mel, and Mayuyu?

>>28659081
tokyo tower

>>28659033

>>28659033
And they're also helping with overpopulation, God bless them.

>>28658921
Anon, her RM is literally the biggest.

>>28658739
Trully a display of nigger behaviour

>>28658624
Yugo will never be a man

>>28658797
I've said it before, nijiniggers don't watch nijisanji because they like nijisanji, they watch nijisanji becayse it's not hololive

>>28659049
Yes, I think they might be getting lower subs than the demon man because a lot of the audience think they are girls.

>>28659087
Didn't HoloID and Uproar debut like a week apart? Different language group I guess but still
I know jack shit about past Stars debuts, does the main branch actually give them space usually?

>>28658925
Delusion is strong in this one.

foobs 10k with rust...

>>28658739
How many Holos still post on Reddit?
I think it's only Watame and every few months someone else like Flare makes a post to shill their anniversary or birthday and that's it.

Fuck, Tempus is starting to gaybait now. I guess this is goodbye....So how is the latina?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFjuKhG2Hzc

only 1 pov, numbers?

>>28659307
>So how is the latina?
Isn't the latina a futa?

>>28659228
The last stars debut before uproar was way back in 2020 and the only 2020 debut was gen5 in september

>>28658739
Can confirm, I'd imagine they saw the effect Hololive members did to the subreddit and wanted to replicate it. Holomembers also Joined the subreddit but it was based on the meme reviews that Coco did. And they joined on a more timed basis, rather than just dumping all of them in one spot.

>>28658884
Who cares?

Nijisanji management completely fucked up its EN branch by not properly segmenting it away from JP branch. Now you see former ID and KR members as well as most EN members gunning for JP and CN audience, which has resulted in the decline of most JP members.

>>28659310
There will be at least 3 povs
like the christmas collab

>>28657865
>>28657921
>>28658083
>>28658316
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/iwvchh/zylbrad_what_are_you_doing_here/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/ipk1ld/zylbrad_watching_fubukis_latest_stream/

>>28659102
My bad, my wording was confusing.
The box does exist, it's just so small that I don't even consider it really a box. It's the same 40k (maybe 60k if Gura is involved) people watching streams live.

New debuts are needed to bring in new fans/people who fell off before. That's the only way to increase the ceiling that HoloEN has right now. It's hard to even create events to bring about these ceilings because there's not enough Holos to organize events.
Like holy fuck they couldn't even schedule a minecraft relay for the ID server despite Bae floating the idea out a month ago because people are too busy.

>>28659304
nene? i barely use the reddit anymore tho

>>28659310
~30K

>>28659384
Holy shit, good find anon
Yeah it's probably him, that's fucking wild, good job Cover scouts

>>28659304
I thought Fubuki and Flare did, but it seems like they mostly stopped.

>>28659384
god I hope he's able to put on a different voice because the voice he uses in his videos is fucking cancer

>>28659369
Update this shit, holo id been getting 4-5k with rust lately.

>>28659396
> because people are too busy.
becasue they are

>>28659310
Moomers channel
First 3d buff
Sana funeral buff
35k with a stretch goal of 40k

>>28657929
HoloID doesn't really have a box either, or at least the box is as strong as the EN box because you also don't see massive spikes in viewership when one of them ends

>>28659307
Making ship names for her and her wife and killing unicorns before debut

Why would a 2M sub guy want to join Holostars? There is no Lando and no Brad.

>>28659551
Is she gypsie?

>>28659551
Lesbian ships don't kill unicorns
Men don't instinctively consider women competition

>>28659381
no, mumei said it's only 1 pov
https://youtu.be/DDxusDp_kx8?t=2185

>>28659623
Hololive only recruits talented people.

>>28659551
Did no one learn from Takamori and Pekomiko?

>>28659542
Yeah, I shouldn't have mentioned HoloID because their box is basically Kobo + Moona's audience right now.
At least it's better than before when it was just Moona's ceiling.

>>28659623
sex

>>28659384
Whew that voice if it's him

>>28659384
>israel

>>28659623
Same reason why gura joined some uncertain foreign branch

>>28659551
Lesbian ships don't count. They only make unicorns stronger.

>>28659507
Well, they are too busy to stream
You know, the thing that people expect them to do, and not whatever behind the scene thing they do

>>28659692
No. They only learnt they brought numbers.

>>28659623
Make friends. Be a part of something bigger, with big events and merch and stuff. Chance to talk to your oshi and try to convince her to marry you.

>>28659551
Is this another Millie/Enna?

>>28659551
Lesbian ships are actually a boon for unicorns because they think they can have a 3some instead.

So based on the debuts so fat, what do you think are the hiring criteria for NijiEN and HoloPro EN (Hololive and Holostars)?

>>28659692
NoeFure ... OkaKoro ... ShishiLamy ...

>>28659304
Pretty much just Watame. Rest may appear on some special occasion.

>>28659845
lesbianships on a mixe wave seems unlikely

>>28659813
That's why HoloEN has HoloMyth Cafe in Korea and Hololive Experience at CR Expo.
What does NijiEN have aside from who cons?

>>28659813
> not whatever behind the scene thing they do
meet ups, concerts and music are important

>>28659813
The only way to fix that imo is get more (quality) people.
We don't really notice Aqua and Ayame's absence anymore because there are more than enough Holos to pick up the slack when someone goes on break.
Sometimes I completely forget when Holos like Korone and Kanata go on a 1 week break.

On the HoloEN side, when Gura goes on break, there's a huge gaping window during primetime that's wasted.

https://www.twitch.tv/watsonamelia_hololiveen
ame karaoke practice on twitch

>>28659926
If you're a woman in a mixed wave who wants to preserve the possibility of getting tons of male gachikois, setting up a female ship ASAP seems like a pretty good strategy actually

>>28659501

>>28660031
Gonna get half the peak she would've gotten on youtube for no reason, but at least it's a throwaway stream.

>>28660056
Oh no no no, muh inclining Nijisis

>>28660055
unless they never interact with them, not happening

>>28660056
>blonde only
>still above top 32
what the fuck, is blond debuff a meme ?

>>28659692
Why is Amesame is still going strong despite not doing collabs that often?

>>28660056
Where's the proper NijiJP? I thought they've merged it with KR and ID already.

>>28659033
Man this thread can still produce some zingers

>>28660171
They don't overlap each other like PekoMiko

>>28659551
Inb4 this is the next crossick where they break up and never talk to each other again after years of gaybaiting

>>28660056
NijiID and KR no longer exists, anon.

> 600+ posts
> 140+ IPs
is /mag/ the fastest general on the board right now?

are any of the supposed starsEN roomates good at singing

>>28659033
What the fuck bro you are gay if you watch stream now?

>>28658389
If Mori is not working the bomb around her neck will explode. It’s like Speed.

>>28660281
Blue one

>>28654729
Most NijiEN fans dont care or know shit about jp. There's barely any significant overlap between the audiences be it english speaking one or not

>>28660056
Ooh, nice. I like the various categories with outliers removed and different splits and stuff.

>>28660056
Holy shit Pekora alone increases the average of all HoloJP by 1k she's like the general of the 1st army

>>28659933
https://twitter.com/animate_cafe/status/1547053620549496833

NijiEN gets their cafe collabs too. More often than HoloEN does honestly and it's pretty laughable that Reimu has a cafe collab before anyone in Council.
Anycolor does have a long history with doing cafe collabs so it's nothing new. Happens a few times a year for NijiJP.

>>28660277
Bless the MAG.

>ame top of the music category
kek

>>28660257
I don't believe any yuri pairings after crossick

>>28660258
I don't make these, but they still exist as streamers. Some of them at least. Complain at the anon that does if you want something else.

>they debut literally 1 day after starsEN debut
This was fucking dirty, they clearly waited for StarsEN to debut first to announce the dates

>>28660364
Kek, that place is empty as fuck

>>28660381
IIRC most people just use the Just Chatting category to sing

>it's been almost 3 hours
When? How did this happen? I don't remember 3 hours passing...

>>28660388
All pairings from Niji were forced/faked. The best pairings come from the fans themselves.

>>28660410
Wow holostars level.

>>28660056
can we just drop all the "Unbraided/unsharked/minus 1st army/top 32" shit? It was useful back when it was just nijimales and nijifemales but now it's just adding unnecessary clutter

>>28660381
Haachama's on top of the valorant one too
HOLI DOMINATION

>>28660381
Can she beat Nyanners and her boyfriend?

>>28660056
What the shit? The rabbit making such a huge difference in a group of 35 members is wild

>>28660381
Herman Li bros....

>>28659384
Hopefully he privates his stuff and also maybe tries to stay away from leaning into any BFE or any of the sorts. Seems like he's been in a long standing relationship. His channel has his name in it and the GF has stuff with him dating back to 2+ years.

>>28659551
>killing unicorns
You don't know what a unicorn is.

>>28660410
Time to pay another wave of bots to make em look good.

Maybe Starsfag and Holofags should laugh too soon? It's going to be long before you beat Nijisanji. We own this industry.

>>28660619
eigo jouzu

>>28660277
It's them tits and bulges

>>28660536
well she probably beat them before mouse raid

>>28660619
Keep practicing your English, you'll get there some day!

>>28660514
nah, it's good bait deterrent, stops all the morons that try the "the rest of hololive would be nothing without peko" or some shit

>>28660509
That's a couple of hours vs 2 days.
If StarsEN does good, nijis steal some of those new viewers with the debut a day later
If StarsEN doesn't do good, nijis kill their momentum by oversaturating the market with 6 new debuts

>>28660167
People have numberrot. Pretty much any Holo except maybe the low tier IDs would be in the top 100 on Twitch. For all the below 10k graduate them nonsense here Niji has 2-3 10k average streamers

>>28660167
>Mel, Polka, Choco, Aki, Nene, Flare
Seems about right for being debuffed, but Hololive is strong enough that they're still strong performers even if they don't compare well to their peers.

>>28660619
people will actually bite this bait and I don't know if it's because they're stupid or because they're bored

>>28660697
>nijis kill their momentum by oversaturating the market with 6 new debut
niji lose more with this

>>28660665
imagine if she raids haachama

>>28660619
You aint even own it in china

>>28660619
nice effort, sis

>>28660677
And what about your English, ESL fuck? You should go back to your Let's Go book, imbecilic fool.

>>28660167
even the bottom of hololive is in the top percentile of streamers anon, only a place like this calls them a debuff

>>28660412
Too bad we don't have actual japs here.
Would be interesting to see how many people actually go, considering it got 38k likes and all, which is way more than the HoloEN korean cafe announcement.

https://twitter.com/ANIPLUS_SHOP/status/1547491116248756224

>>28660767

>>28660167
No, no. Blondes are a debuff. The lot of them just happen to have inclined recently (especially Aki), but are mostly lower tier holos compared to, say the blue women.

>>28659692
Fuck you PekoMiko is real. They are destined to be together even before Pekora is born.

Nyanners and mouse at their peak had 14k
HoloEN with one peaking at 4.3k and the other one still not peaking but at 4.8k I guess? They're at 10k, do you think ame can incline enough to catch up?

>>28660822
I hope we get photos, but I have psychic powers so I'll spoil it for you: The Myth cafe will be a fucking madhouse with a big line

>>28660697
This is actually bad marketing for Nijisanji.
It basically encourages Niji fans to watch for StarsEN since they go first.
A day later, HoloEN and StarsEN will most likely have some program to overlap those new NijiEN gen debuts.

Wild miko appeared

>>28660410
Yeah, about as dirty as conveniently moving collabs and talk shows to overlap basically every other NijiEN wave debut lol
Sucks that the EN Stars have to suffer for it though

>>28660822
Only 100 people came to OffKai with NijiEN despite the announcement of NijiEN getting a lot of likes as well.
HoloEN managed to attract 1000 people to their panel with less likes.

>>28661090
Nijis employ Twitter warriors to boost engagements.

>>28660996
New numbers, haachama peaked at 5k and Amelia is at 6k I think, 11k...3k left

>>28661090
For all the money Anycolor apparently has you'd think they'd throw some toward getting I dunno an anime expo panel or something

>>28661032
If the StarsEN perform well on debut Niji will be basically shooting themselves in the foot. Especially since Niji releases new members all the time. It's a rare event for Holo and their first EN males.

>>28661152
why would they, none of their audience is in NA

>>28661032
Yes, a 70k announcement tweet in a few hours and all of them getting close to 100k subs pre-debut is bad marketing.

Would you consider it a bad marketing move if HoloEN debuted EN3 a day after NijiEN's debut? Because that's the difference between StarsEN and NijiEN.

>>28661214
even the girls ? like elira, pomu and the others ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB6nh6UjGLI

Original song numbers

>>28660740
>>28661032
They don't care, it's zerg tactics they can use thanks to ACCELERATE

Another wave another delusional
>hololive is dying NijiEN is taking over any day now
Did ridinculous, knockdicks and voltaire teach you fags nothing?

If male niji can fujobait with ASMR, why can't female niji coombait with ASMR?

>>28661260
>30k
>clsoe to 100k predebut

>>28661260
Sooner or later, HoloEN viewers will have to watch NijiEN. They are already on the news in Taiwan, UK and Japan already.

>>28661360
It's been 6 hours anon. They debut in 4 days.

>>28661260
Going earlier whether intentional or not will only be advantageous to them.
Just look at what those other corpos did during HoloFes. It brought them so many eyes cause they went earlier.

https://youtu.be/lB6nh6UjGLI
https://youtu.be/lB6nh6UjGLI
https://youtu.be/lB6nh6UjGLI
NUMBERCHADS IT'S ORIGINAL SONG TIME

>>28661282
Only 100 people came at Offkai. Doesn't exactly inspire confidence for them to invest in getting them to other cons.

>>28661425
and you think they will grow at the same rate afetr the first day?

>>28661212
>>28661212
>>28661212
nijiniggers are getting cocky again...

>>28661305
GET IN NUMBERCHADS

>>28661476
because offkai is a ridiculously tiny con in the middle of nowhere

>>28660514
It makes Nijiniggers know their place and that they are inferior to Hololive.

>>28660410
V-vengeance for that one time Ame and Gura streamed the mega event of uh...a podcast! On a saturday!

>>28661480
No, if they did they would have like 300k predebut.

>>28661480
Even if they slow down to 10k a day, they'll be at around 80k subs predebut and pass 100k during their debuts.

>>28661503
Lmao, if homoEN has 3views it is already considered a success.

JUST PUT IT ON FUCKING STEAM YOU BACKWARDS FUCKS

>>28661601
>10k a day
now you are delusional

>>28661476
>small volunteer vtuber-only con hosted in a hotel
>not a huge con linked to the anime industry with vtubers just tagging along

>>28661411
>Someday Holo will pay
Thanks for the laugh.

>>28661260
This mindset shows lack of foresight by the Niji management. If they were so confident with their brand then they should've went for the kill and either overlap them directly or go first and them overlap with them later.

Surprise 3D from Chigu?
https://youtu.be/esuL2RzT8OY

>>28661628
How hard is it to get games on Steam anyhow?

>>28661778
wanna go again bitch?

>>28661778
Owakon

>>28661780
really easy

>>28661466
Speaking of originals

Here a question can the top guy in this wave catch up to Alban the current most subbed Noctix member and can the top girl in this wave catch up to Nina the current most subbed Niji En girl before Holo EN 3 debuts

So even on twitch, holoEN>vshojo?
What would happen if hololive be Me serious about taking over twitch?

>>28661780
https://store.steampowered.com/app/495520/Ping_Pong_League/

>>28661780
you pay 100 dollars and submit your game for review, that's it

>>28661930
I have no hope for Nijisanji to be honest. HoloID is growing much faster than NijiEN.

>>28661919
is still getting views unstuck
but yeah it was a guerrilla release.

>>28661930
>before Holo EN 3 debuts
so they have time till summer next year? yeah they can

>>28661919
Nice, finally a fair 1vs1 battle with Mantra Hujan. If the song performed similar to her last OG than she might actually lost again.

>>28661628
They will. Miko already said it.
>>28661780
Just pay $100.

>>28661930
With the purple cunny being Senzawa, they can easily mog HoloEN

>>28661919
Oof, how's the EP looking on Itunes though?

>>28661930
noctyx subgain slowed so much i dont think they will

>>28662001
>HoloID is growing much faster than NijiEN.
What's your hope levels for HoloEN then considering NijiEN is growing faster in subs than HoloEN?
Even Kaela is going to pass Sana very soon after her graduation.

>>28661464
Only in specific cases. The male EN vtuber market is already filled with nijiEN.
Tempus marketing and teasers for the past days only served to create hype for a new EN male debut, which nijisanji can capitalize by debuting a day later a mixed gen, so both female and male fans will go check the debuts
StarsEN also had some controversy among the hologirl fans, since some of them didn't want the homos to collab with their oshi. Nijisanji then debuts a mixed gen showing how their talents can collab freely between genders
They also announce a group song, something StarsEN don't have
And finally, most viewers are numberfags so if they see StarsEN doing decent numbers during their debuts, they are going to watch nijiEN debuts to beat those numbers, while holo viewers will probably not watch the starsEN debuts
Of course, everything will depend on how talented they are, but StarsEN will get affected by wave 6 debuting right after them so people can compare their debuts

>>28661930
>catch up to Alban
Probably
>catch up to Nina
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

What's the cut off for the twitch tally?

>30. Shion
ALL ME

>>28660056
>>28659501
Are these threads the only one keeping track of all this autism data, or are these all taken from the Japanese statistic threads (assuming they exist)

>>28661778
It's not a 3D debut, she wont get much with that.

>>28660171
anon, ame cooked a steak dinner for gura on her birthday and then they sang love songs to each other for two hours

>>28662093
where's my 1M subs

>>28662020
>guerrilla release
But it's on her schedule.

>>28662093
Kaela has been grinding for it hardcore, dont you disrespect her by comparing her efforts next to Sana

>>28662098
Reminds me of Gokisei vs Selejo

>>28662153
That particular chart is made and tracked by anon here. But their source is other data that is tracked by people with just as much vtuber autismo.

>>28661584
ALL OUT WAR

>>28662191
but didnt put the MV frame until like 1hr before release.

Bae's doing very very good

Why is Ame doing karaoke on twitch?

>>28661503
Lol. Twitter followers as metric.
>Hololive needs to announce gen 3 or they'll get mogged.
To be fair I agree with that one. No one really wanted homos, they're not gonna succeed. They will not bring much of new audience and they might alienate existing one. EN3 is needed now more than ever.

>>28662197
No disrespect, just saying dissing NijiEN's sub growth isn't a good idea right now because it's one stat that most of the boys are beating HoloEN in right now.
idek how they're getting more subs daily than Council despite getting 1/4th the numbers.

>>28662093
The thing is HoloEN and HoloID target different markets so any growth from them is seen as positive for Hololive.
NijiEN targets ID, KR, JP, and VirtuaReal markets. They are basically cannibalising their existing markets.

>>28661780
Easy, but then you give up 30% of the revenue

sanner on the telly

I'm confused looking at the new niji designs. How many of them are dudes? I count..1.

>>28662358
>They are basically cannibalising their existing markets
just like council did to myth?

>>28662053
She has 1.2m subs, why would she go corporate?

>>28662343
becasue their "fans" are not youtube users, at least not regularly.

okay this is all just mori songs what the fuck

Kek, /mag/ is already turning on Magni already, they want to change into that black-haired guy from NijiEN.
It's over for StarsEN

>>28662221
Yes and gokisei won since they belonged to a company that had more popular female vtubers while the other one was in manjisanji

>>28661584
Or that time Gura moved forward her meme review streams 1-2 days in order to overlap a new wave debut

>>28660697
The assumptions you make will be correct if Wave6 does much better than Tempus at debut. Which is almost impossible when Holo always has very impressive debuts. They will definitely be compared, I believe Wave6 will have better numbers but it won't affect StarsEn as much as people think

>>28662343
>idek how they're getting more subs daily than Council despite getting 1/4th the numbers.
Oh you know. Especially Vox that will always, no matter what, grow by the same amount each day.

holy shitto really isnt good. i liked her older stuff and didnt really like unalive and ouroboros because it really didnt fit her but going back to "her roots" with holy shitto really didnt work. mera mera outperforming when its months older not surprising

>>28662358
Subs are a non-zero sum game. Kuzuha isn't losing subs when Vox gains subs.
Not to mention, they're clearly not targeting the same audiences, since NijiJP subgrowth is fucking dead outside of Salome. All of Luxiem is going to reach 1 mil faster than Mito gets to 1 mil at this rate.

>>28662098
Hololive doesn't really have any headspace in the world of fans interested in male vtubers so I can only see any eventual comparisons between them and NijiEN as favorable to them. They have nothing to lose compared to the Niji males and as long as they don't fuck up their debuts they'll be better off from riding the wave. The 3 new girls are probably fucked though. Either that or some other Niji female will finally get choked out of any lingering relevancy.

>>28661907
>>28661980
>>28661993
>>28662054
>>28662366
Illustrative. Thanks, anons.

>>28662471
mera mera is actually good

>>28661305
Mori's song made me physically nauseous. You fuckers brainwashed me into hating her.

>>28662475
It's the nijischizo intern that has been shitting the general all day

>>28662487
Yeah man, imagine doing a big stream on the weekend. I swear you nijiniggers exist in a world where that shit was diabolical and on par with this lmao

>>28662471
Mori has more orisongs than Gens from 1 to 3 put together and if not for Watame, you could probably also add 4 and that still would be true

>>28662475
seems more like one schizo

>>28662098
>The male EN vtuber market is already filled with nijiEN.
I think that's a big assumption to make when every data we have right now points to NijiEN not being able to cater western market.
I haven't heard of any controversies save for some that came from antis. The fact that StarsEN got so many fan arts and memes of them show that this could be the male vtubers that the west have been craving for for a long time.

>>28660381
You know, maybe joining HoloEN IS a legitimate way for music streamers to success
Just look at Luna on JP side

haven't bought a game on steam since 2015 still won't buy my games from there

>>28662343
>4-5k new subs a day
>declining viewer numbers
It's like magic.

>>28662575
yeah but the song list doesn't become a watame's greatest hit list now did it?
In fact I don't think a single watame song made the top 40

>>28662392
3. Purple-yellow hair one is classic feminine male.
Blue hair is trap.

>>28662493
> Which is almost impossible when Holo always has very impressive debuts
Holos =/= homos
ID3 got 60k while Uproar got 10k

>>28662493
>Which is almost impossible when Holo always has very impressive debuts.
Were you there when Uproar barely got 10k for their debuts and one of them peaked at 8k? That's the expectations for StarsEN. The audience for Hololive and Holostars is very different.

>>28662475
You will never be a Maggot, faggot

JWU and nijiEN decided that competing with homoEN was a worthwhile thing to do, were they itching to put something against hololive and couldn't wait anymore?

>>28662531
take a break anon, the new one ain't even bad

Watson plateauing at 6200~ range

>>28662392
2, one of them (Aster) is unknown so far but assumed dude

>>28658376

LMAO you mean gura ?

>>28662475
>>28662554
>>28662578
what the fuck are you talking about?

>>28662664
It's like an all out war

>>28662664
Their Youtube channels were created at the beginning of this month, so it's not like they rushed it.

>>28662687
homobeggars

>>28662531
Weak beta male

>>28661975
They would have to push it really hard and stream much more frequently than they do to make it work.
It's pretty difficult to move your viewers from one platform to another, just look at Ninja, but it might help that Twitch is much more popular than Youtube outside Japan.
If they made it work though, they would be at the top of Twitch for sure.
Twitch doesn't have the viewer verification issues that Youtube does so their live viewers would be much higher than they are right now.

>>28662614
Neither did AZKi. Can't account for poor taste.

lots of originals and deadbeats actually like to play her songs unlike say IRyS and IRyStocrats

>>28662438
Myth and Council belong to the same branch catering the same market. Are you retarded, anon?

>>28662711
nijiseethe

>>28662710
>it's not like they rushed it

>>28662710
But nijisanji clearly chose the date after seeing the tempus debut dates. 22-23 to 24-25 that's too much of a coincidence

Not sure if it is zylbrad but looking at his vod comments, people seem to like that kind of voice. The comments seem very female-ish too.

>>28662726
Not a deadbeat but they're actually good?

damn, stellar stellar still soaring, power of memes is amazing

>Q is still at the top
Gura really is a mega buff

>>28662487
I don't think Gura knows any of the Nijis to be fair.

>>28661601

10k / day

retarded

INDOCHADS WE CANNOT STOP WINNING

kobokeks stay winning...

>>28662471
To be fair she does put out a lot of songs as compared to literally everybody else
Her newer songs except Mera Mera suck ass though

KOBOKEKS WE DID IT AGAIN

the fucks the Zylbrad rrat coming from suddenly i used to watch that guy play Overwatch ages ago

>>28662779
Brad is not in StarsEN anon, he only likes Nijisanji.

>>28662748
i don't watch m*les why would i watch mansanji? or even talk about vtweeters.

>>28662803
WAIT WHAT IT'S NEARING 5 MILLION ALREADY ????

>>28662717
most of azki's songs were released way back in the day though, and her newer songs aren't great hits like some of her old songs are.
I kinda wish she'd go back to her black days but she seemed to have dropped that aspect of her songs entirely

>>28662687
There has been 1 nijischizo camping /mag/ since it was created. He would spam for hours about how hololive is paying interns to shill starsEN here and telling people to just watch nijisanji

jesas
Q and stellar stellar still getting 550k+ is pretty crazy too

>>28659304
Flare and Watame are the most frequent.
Nene and Friend still post once in a blue moon.

>>28662817
every single song that dropped with the EP today is better than Mera Mera tho?

>>28662586
Luna's music doesn't do well wtf, she's probably one of the weakest JPs for music. Tons of NijiJPs do better than Luna in the music department.

>>28662777
NijiEN debuts are always on Saturday or Sunday

>>28662835
then why are you are nijinigger?

>>28662780

>>28662664
I mean their existence seems to be to counter Hololive instead of building their own brand.

>>28662820
Some anon put together some circumstantial evidence in this thread and last thread
It's only a possibility, but I bet it's true. If I could put a little money on it I totally would.

Is Kobo outpacing all of Myth to 2 million minus Gura? And Myth had a pandemic + Guras sidekicks buff. Absolutely insane.

>>28662854
yeah but that guy isn't spamming anything right now, actually I see nothing about nijisanji in the mag thread at the moment

>>28662873
25th is monday

>>28662726
Hey I listen to IRyS songs regularly
But I buy them and play it on an app rather than stream it

>>28662845
it was the frog that made AZKi BLaCK

>>28662880
keep begging

>>28662780
Not a deadbeat, it is Calli's selling point, got the EP earlier today and whatever Universal studios is doing to her music is definitely making it much better.

Good News! Gura is finally streaming again tomorrow!

Bad News! It's a fucking member's only stream!

>>28662909
>to 2 million
she's outpacing literally anyone to 2m, including salome

>>28662942
nijiseethe

>>28662780
That's what the consistent numbers shows even with her old songs, unlike Irys said by that anon

>>28662880
>why are you are

>>28662917
I'm talking Saturday or Sunday NA time. This new wave is debuting Sunday NA time. Same time as Luxiem did, in fact.

>>28662820
Basically from what we know now
>Hasn't made a video in 2 months
>Great at APEX
>Lives in Australia
>Tweet has him going to bed when it's Australian night time
>RM twitter feed has him RT'ing vtuber(s)
>Found hololive subreddit posts of him lurking in hololive streams
It seems pretty strong now that he's in

NijiID fans selling the "NIJI bday merch" pack as they only given VP merch even when they are already merged in to the main Niji. The VP wasn't even shilled by the niji accounts on twitter but by the most mentioned resident ex-NijiID 2-view here

https://twitter.com/RiksaDhirendra/status/1549589923132411907

https://twitter.com/njid_birthday/status/1549605019690754048

>>28662956
ogey

>>28658624
There's a shota in new nijimale??

>>28662933
cool, Ina stills has more listeners on Spotify than IRyS and she only has one original, IRyStocrats in general dont listen to IRyS

>>28662820
His apex settings are different, can't be him.

>>28663025
anon, isn't it a fanmade thing?

>>28662903
>their existence seems to be to counter Hololive instead of building their own brand.
Why do you retards keep repeating this shit when there's barely any overlap between audiences?
Like Luxiem is 80% of NijiEN's numbers and they appeal to a complete separate audience in a different country than Hololive. There's less than 1% correlation in chatters between Luxiem and HoloEN and most of their audience is women that don't watch Holos.
What would be "building their own brand" if that doesn't count?

>>28659304
Just Watame
>posts her latest giri waru
>replies with the playlist
>refuses to elaborate
>leaves
>repeat next week

>>28662664
They've been mad since Gokisei mogged the fuck out of Selejo.

Anon Luca Z again

Nijisanji management is really incompetent when it comes to producing songs.
They don't have talents like Kobo who can build hype without resorting to Youtube ads.
In the long run, Niji would be hard-strapped with money for other projects like making 3Ds and stuff.

>>28663076
Read the first 3 words again anon

>>28662903
I'd argue "anti-Hololive" can be treated as a branding, lol

>>28663025
>Voice pack
>fan merch
This is just sad as fuck

>>28662788
It helps that Stellar Stellar is a titular song and is very memorable
The power of Taku Inoue

>>28658655
You're not making any sense, you're comparing Ina's normal Minecraft stream to some celebration stream and new gen hype stream....

>>28663025
I hope "Fan Merch" is actually merch for fans rather than merch made by their fans

>>28663025
The art is so low quality lmao

>>28663076
imagine being a fucking NijiID fan rumao

>>28663104

Ina 12,561
Luca Z 12,624 and GOLDDDDDDD

kek hololive gonna die

>>28661778
> Niji 3D reveal
> Birthday
can someone explain? idk what "Niji 3D" means, is it those black cloak thingeys?

>>28663128
It's always is. See how everyone try to take down holo during the kshart+vshojo shit.

It just exposes holo more into the western market.

>>28663154
We're talking about cripple gold. That's how it's counted. No one says it's unfair when Holos win golds with 3D lives, that's just how the horserace goes.

>>28663115
If the new Tubtacular (or whatever that new gen is) song gets played as ads, some anon with no adblock or youtube premium let us know and take some screenshots
I always think it's so funny how they do those huge campaigns for their orisongs, but I've had premium so the only one I actually witnessed directly was DCL

>>28662714
Haachama and Amelia's peaks summed together is almost as good as nyanners and mouse's, without accounting any raids of course
And this is holoEN, i imagine jp would be even better

>>28663025
>fan merch
the absolute state of this black company

Is the JP market nearly saturated at this point? The new Niji JP debuts look kinda... ugly

CCV per VOD:
Watari Hibari
>59,640 (Debut)
>7,947 (Thief Simulator)
>6,714 (Phasmophobia)
>5,736 (Chatting)
>4,048 (Thief Simulator)

Akira Shikinagi
>63,495 (Debut)
>14,784 (Introduction)
>9,190 (Phasmophobia)
>10,274 (Needy Girls in Love)

Fura Kanato
>46,379 (Debut)
>6,382 (Valorant)
>2,641 (Phasmophobia)
>1,914 (Mario Party Superstars)
Seraph Dazzledragon
>62,807 (Debut)
>6,090 (First Broadcast)
>6,541 (Nier Automata)
>4,210 (Phasmophobia collab)
>2,148 (Nier Automata)

>>28663128
Like how Pepsi's only brand identity is "Not-Coke"

>>28663155
viichan looks cute. Does she do eigo?

>>28663088
>there's barely any overlap between audiences
Maybe between the males and hololive, but no on can be retarded enough to not see that the girls before they were delegated to second degree citizens were there solely to capture the hololive audience.

>>28663155
>only 50k with gambling
juicer bros...

>>28663025
This is so fucking sad.
I'm not sure whether it's from me for following vtubers for more than 3 years or that I have spent so much time on this hobby and I couldn't recognize this fucking Niji girl.

>>28663158
It is merch made by fans. the official merch they got was the VP

>>28663025
This is just sad, this is the first post in this thread in months that makes me legitimately pity a chuuba

>>28663025
The absolute state of nijisanji

>>28662880
> why are you are

>>28663266
yes, unless you manage to go viral like salami, it's extremely saturated because it has a low ceiling, the biggest jp channels are ants in subs compared to other markets

With latina, cunny and lesbian, NijiEN girls might aim for a different crowd now that HoloEN has the fat and unemployed male viewers.
NijiEN is going to be big with yuppies

>>28663019
That's... such a stretch.

>>28663349
nijiseethe

Z cripple gold get!

>>28663266
woof