/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>28543130
Not everyone wants the GFE. Just a bro friend is fine too.

>>28543130
>people will not only stop paying subscriptions, but will probably kill themselves if they ever collab with their virtual girlfriend
Didn't happen when Luxiem made it big, wont happen here.

>>28543130
They don't want your business. Go to a hostess club or buy a prostitute

>>28543130
Because the female market exists, simple as that.
Now it will apply to them.

>>28543130
Cover obviously has their own data and metrics for this stuff.

>>28543130
Fujo also need bfe anon. It's okay to give them that. The problem is gfe and bfe should never touch each other

>>28543526
Must have been the polls on twitter lol

>>28543255
There're plenty of normal male streamer who can do that. Doesn't have to be 2d

>>28543255
But the high end donors are the GFE addicts. Being a GFE master made Rushia the highest earner in Hololive dspite being nowhere near the most popular.

>>28543130
It gets complicated because the west and Japan have different ways they interact with celebrities. Japan's idol culture and the west's celebrity gossip culture (whose sleeping with who in Hollywood this week) are two sides of the same coin. There is a market in the west for heteroshipfags, and there is an argument to be made for Luxiem increasing Nijisanji's stake in the western market, but I personally think integrating the two sides in Hololive would be a bad idea from what the brand represents. They are supposed to be Japanese idols. I think people want the authentic experience. Robbing Hololive EN of that identity seems like the wrong way to go about it.

>>28543130
Wierd business move for mixing male & female chuubas

- the purpose of chuuba is to bring maximum entertainment to audience, and get most money from them
- the main audience of female chuuba is male audience
- do you think most male audiences are interested to see his oshi flirting with other males? Is this entertainment they’re seeking for?
- do male audience pays the most money for this kind of entertainment?

>>28543761
>Being a GFE master made Rushia the highest earner in Hololive dspite being nowhere near the most popular.
It's also what killed her

Do the right thing, come home.

>>28543865
Women drop more money when it comes to consumer spending. Men are more frugal with their money. It's why advertisements often appeal more to women.

>>28543130
Vtubing used to be something more than catering to fucking losers. I for one hope it can go back to what it used to be.

>>28543761
>But the high end donors are the GFE addicts
Yea they should only appeal to the same small group of very rich guys, they shouldn't bother trying to expand their audience at all or step into other markets. This is Business 101.

>>28544224
I'm not saying they shouldn't try to expand their audience. I'm saying that expanding your audience at the cost of alienating your current audience is dumb.


Just keep them separate.

>>28543325
These characters are in the same make believe universe as myth and council, if they collab fans are going to be pissed.
>>28543369
What?
>>28543441
Sure, but woman as a whole are considered sophisticated shoppers than men, woman just aren’t going to impulsively dump fat super chats like their male counterparts, whatever potential profits they think they can squeeze will from this isn’t worth it men aren’t happy with this choice of vtubers — it’s a male thing.

>>28544096
Right, because catering to ironic weebs, shippers, and leddit/twitter fags is so much better. And make no mistake, that's the only alternative on the table here.

>>28543999
maybe that's true, but Cover is a female chuuba based company. Stars income are always incomparable to main branch.

>>28543999
that's because women do the household shopping, genius. it doesn't mean they donate more to their virtual boyfriends

>>28543202
that comment is from Zoki impersonating a Taiwan bro from Twitter

>>28543130
> Vtubing is grounded on a pretend girlfriend simulation, adding men to this make believe universe is going to kill that subliminal status for their male consumers, people will not only stop paying subscriptions, but will probably kill themselves if they ever collab with their virtual girlfriend.

I hope anyone who likes GFE sees their favorite streamers relationships get exposed. Maybe it would push them to stop being literal retards & be normal for once in their miserable lives.

>>28544224
Trying to appeal to everyone all at once is why western media turned to shit. Different demographics with wildly varying tastes cannot be entertained with a one size fits all approach. The original fans will become alienated, and the band-wagoners will dump it and move on to something else when the content necessarily becomes soulless generic shite.

>>28544563
>be normal
Go back, normie. You don't belong in this hobby.

>>28543130
>but will probably kill themselves
It's probably for the best

>>28543130
vtubers are streamers and content creators. they are not GFE by default.

>>28543130
you do know there's already a holostars in Japan, which has a community of even more retarded unhinged incel unicorns, right? you do know this right? And you know Fubuki and Subaru and lots of JP tubers collab with them, right? or are you just a retard tourist?

>>28544701
Oh no, I’m not a schizo who’s in love with a woman who will never look his way. Imagine being so attention starved you resort to attention from a Voice actress.

>>28543761
>made Rushia the highest earner in Hololive
No, Coco leaving made Rushia the highest earner.

>>28543999
This a radically different market. The parasocial relationship isn’t as effected as it is with lonely men. Most woman nowadays don’t fit this type of desperate group, they’re very simulating and can access real attention of guys without spending a dime.

>>28544416
Marriage has been down and they dominate consumer spending by 80~85%. Men are fine with living with less and being frugal. Even when you want to include marriages, it means women are DICTATING where the money is spent hence why it's better to market to them than a man regardless if a woman is spending their money or not.

>>28544701
Maybe you should stop pretending to be edgy and special?

>>28543130
If you really love and care about your oshi, you would continue to subscribe and donate while giving them the freedom to seek desirable men that could crush their wombs.

>>28544904
Women are willing to drop big bucks on virtual men.

>>28545026
NTA, but you really should go back.

>>28543130
i thought only /vt/ think this way. aren't leddit fine with male collabs? Aren't they the majority anyway? Or are they just masquerading pretending to be fine but deep inside aren't.

>>28544701
I'd rather be a normie than a parasocial schizo desu

>>28544902
That was still Pekora guys.
Superchats yes those two were the highest, but also Superchats make up the least amount of money.

>>28544856
>Oh no, I’m not a schizo
Then why are you here?

>>28543949
Fancucks still wanted her back after the incident. She did herself in.

>>28545175
It's not even all of /vt/ just holokeks

>sorry honey, you can't donate to Nene this month, I've blown our whole budget on low-budget RPG twink

You're literally claiming above is going to happen enough that it will shape the industry. Do you recognize how schizo that sounds? Women are gonna "dictate" supas, get out of here lmao

>>28545175
>Aren't they the majority anyway?
No, but they're a bigger market share than /vt/.
>Or are they just masquerading pretending to be fine but deep inside aren't.
No they're genuinely fine with it. I expect they'll even be notably more successful than the JP Stars because more than anything else, they care about streams in English.

>>28545284
It’s entertaining, outside of the 3 big companies sucking their own dicks. It’s not bad.

>>28544904
It affects women less but it still affects them. Everyone is becoming lonelier, retreating from social contact onto the internet, an so on.

>>28545330
it's not even all of holokeks just holounicorns

>>28545126
Not they don’t, again, maybe a few will but this ain’t a woman’s market. E-commerce was always dominated by men buyers, plus Men are significantly more likely than women to spend serious money on a impulsive purchase. Something seven percent of the women say they spend $500 or more, but 21 percent of the men do this over woman.

>>28545126
>number spells boobie
>annie
I agree with your premise but in this case I'm gonna call tranny.

>>28545175
A lot of unicorns are total reddit normalfags, they just also run the show in /vt/.

>>28545577
Is sending a tip to an entertainer that you've been watching for months or over a year really an impulsive purchase? Some people are more willing to spend money to support content creators they enjoy more so than other people.

>>28545577
I bet you'll feel cucked when your Oshi collabs with one of Tempus. it's okay anon, you can suck the cum out of her pussy after he's done with her ;)

>>28543130
well i don't find any of holoEN girls interesting anon, i actually hope holostarEN to make those bitches stream often, but well their designs are shit i almost lose all of my hope. the only thing that can save them if one of them is my juicer pepegawarlord

can't wait for group sex fanart with myth and council, NTRChads we won yet again!

>>28545826
Sending fat tips to get your oshis attention on a particular moment or high can be an impulsive purchase, it doesn’t really matter how long you watched them, people can and will send big bucks on the fly and most of them will always be men. Some girls can do this buts it’s not going to be a lot, maybe they’re looking for them to be subscribers.

I mean, if you don't like these guys you can just MeToo em. Like, for real. I'm serious. As soon as you learn who their RM is just MeToo them. They're western men on English speaking Twitter. No one is going to care if it is true or not. They'll be fired fast.

>>28543752
but why can't they be 2d

>>28545826
when do they send the tip? when they do something funny? when it strikes them to ask the something? because they thought of a funny remark related to the stream? that's the impulse, genius

>>28543202
STFU ZOKI, DRINK YOUR OWN CUM AND FUCK OFF

>>28544856
Imagine being so attention starved you resort to cheap bait for (you)s

>>28543130
bump

>>28545508
Jelly 2views detected. Good luck making it big with your obsolete way of vtubing

>>28548736
2d isn't real. Why wishing for unreal bros when you can have the real one?

>>28543130
I don't really have a problem with occasional male collabs, I just want western filth to stay away from my uncorrupted JP oshi

>>28543130
Meds, fruitcake.

>>28560650
>2d isn't real

>>28545577
>This guy doesn't know about host business

>>28548506
they tried that with Vox. He made women too horny for them to stay mad at him