/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

this one was first

THIS WAS FIRST
>>28510737
The AVERAGE CCV , not peak CCV is around 11k for HOLOJP iirc

>>28510814
Man would be in Tempus by now? :(

>>28510564
Almost everyone did a bit.
That dip and bump around :50 is when she sang secret base then ended.

>>28510921
Do note that AVERAGE gets dragged down quite a bit by the large amount of SC readings present across all of Hololive.
>>28510833
Hololive's CCV average for their talents is actually stupidly high for all mutli-talent streaming agencies, and their views are no slouch either, competing with TSM as an org iirc.

today is rushia's debut date.. i know this is not number related but bros.. i missed uruha rushia, i missed rushia of hololive, not mike not nazuna, but the uruha rushia. I know she fucked herself and all but i just couldn't shake off this gloomy feeling, all the "what if.." scenarios flooding me too much today, i missed her banthers with sankisei and all. is there anyone still feeling the same?

>>28510850
>>28510865
No way to reconcile.

Who are the gold contenders for tomorrow?

>>28511092
Just watch the secret base song in Pekora's live and jerk it off anon.

>>28511133
Niji koshien

>>28511133
Gura

>>28511133
Unless Pekora suddenly announces the Pekomari offcollab, it will most likely be a Koshien gold

>>28510837
The overwhelming majority of Europe is in UTC 0 and +1. Trying to stretch the definition of prime time goes against the reason behind the term's existence, it is what it is.

>>28511092
She tried to tarnish Hololive's reputation just like what she did on her previous group. She's a Judas, anon.

>>28511133
Practically a sure fire nijigold tomorrow since Pekora is streaming holoerror and that shit is numbers poison.

>>28511233
No chance for peko, tomorrow will probably be her lowest stream for this month

>>28511092
All this bs with kson and rushia made me realize that while it's 100% true you can take a lot of your fanbase with you, the character has it's own identify separate from the rmt. Kson and Coco are just different characters and I'm surprised how little I feel for the former. Nostalgia can only last so long

>>28511216
2 and 3 stream cubas should be included.

>>28511312
Maybe it's not gonna be shit now that it's fully released?
Yea i know im just coping.

>>28511161
Yeah, watch Pekor's sankisei Secret Base together with Miguel's secret base Karaoke

>>28510029
The only better dub over sub is and always be Black Lagoon's. The others are only decent at best.

>>28511377
It's over, sub 30k anon will finally have his vindication.

>>28511338
I think for kson it’s especially the case where a lot of people miss Coco but they don’t particularly care for Kson.

>>28511216
I can bet that any single one of the 3 line could get 20ks, if they stream frequently and at an uncontested slot with buff contents.

Koyori, please be the next first army. Get your outfit reveal and change your color scheme. It's too fucking pink.

>>28511233
>Unless Pekora suddenly announces the Pekomari offcollab, it will most likely be a Koshien gold
Didn't learn the lesson last time?

>>28511216
That's pretty misleading with Ina having Ayame-tier rarity + celebration buff
Would be nice to have a version of this over several months

>Salome still has 40k floor
Oh no no no Holobros...I thought she's reclining...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI1esI0D5ZY
>30k 12 minutes in
Is his becoming her "Arc" game now?

Meaning the one where her getting good at/ completing it is a character arc, like with RE7.

>>28511133

Salome

>>28511216
Shouldn't Pekora have a tier alone for her?

>>28511216
Is this for June?

>>28511536
The point was to show that sub-10k is midtier in hololive.

>>28511092
Someone had to fuck up to establish that you can't just do whatever you want and ignore all consequences. No matter how long you've been in the company, no matter how popular you are or how much money you earn, the terms of your contract are binding and you can't hide behind the excuse that you didn't have ill intent. It was avoidable, and now everyone else is wiser for it.

>>28511543
2 more weeks. Trust the plan faggit

>>28511216
>Nijirainbow chart
We really need to make a new format for this shit.

>Oopsie
She's fucking shameless

>>28511543

40k ???

>>28511543
Baffling post. This is just a buff game

>>28511543
you dont know what floor means

>>28511676
Oh wow, what a shocker!
No one could've seen this coming!

>can't even 35k with ther ultra buff game
salomekeks, your defence?

>>28511676
lmao

32K DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>Figaro 1k again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsWArTJ3Rak

On the other hand... Mikado.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udlhibk7X44
She's still trying to be a Vsinger.

Is vrabi dead for anyone else?

>>28511676
Women can do no wrong

>>28511676
Classic. I hope she leaks her point with the alien faggot

>>28511543

Just 31k anon and reclining now

>>28511676
>subscribed

>>28511784
same here.

>>28511784
Only for ongoing streams for me

>>28511676
What?! No fucking way! I can't believe it!
Can't wait for her to leak something else in the future.

>MEL GOLD
MEL GOLD

Final /news/ roundup for 18-07-2022 (all times are in JST)
> Obsydia held their 1st anniversary celebration stream today (https://youtu.be/ax-pbAH4zqM).). Announced Anniversary merch as well (https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1548850041892356096).).
> Holostars EN Branch first Gen "TEMPUS" announced (PV : https://youtu.be/Jar19J3HXQY).).
Regis Altare : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyxtGMdWlURZ30WSnEjDOQw
Magni Dezmond : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7MMNHR-kf9EN1rXiesMTMw
Axel Syrios : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2hx0xVkMoHGWijwr_lA01w
Noir Vesper : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDRWSO281bIHYVi-OV3iFYA
> "Hololive Error" full game released today, available to buy from HoloPro website (https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1549016388114993152, https://shop.hololivepro.com/products/hololiveerror_game2022).).
> Mel celebrated her 4th Anniversary today with a 3D live (https://youtu.be/4nLF5YWyaVA).).

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>>28511843
KEK

>>28511676
She's going to use her Mike avatar during Nazuna stream next!

28511805
Here's your (you) retard

>>28511843
FUCKING KEK

>>28511843
KEK

Come on Salome , Botan holocure 33k

Just Botan Salomi please

>>28511618
Any vtuber company is a fragile thing. A defection spiral could torpedo your company in the space of weeks. There's always the temptation to join, get fans, and just leave/double dip. In the past people thought fan uproar/high performance would prevent companies from enforcing rules but Cover, for all its faults, has shown they'll pull the trigger if the talent crosses the line.

>>28511843
MY FUCKING SIDES

>>28511843
The truth is she is actually fucking cute when she streams.

>>28511843
Imagine losing to low tier Holo

>>28511338
that's why i've been separating my vision towards the chuubas now, like coco is coco, kson is kson, mike is mike, rushia is rushia, even if the person behind it still the same, they don't execute the same feeling anymore, the thing that made coco and rushia felt so alive is because of their interaction with the rest of hololive members

Salome buff game 35k ....

Honest question: Why doesn't Hololive have its own Twitter Topic by now? They've gone top trending like a hundred times

The Holobox isn't real

>>28511676
lmaoooo how until she fucks something up vshojo edition

>>28512102
Global conspiracy against Cover.

>>28511843

>>28511585
That's what I mentioned several times yeah, she can literally do everything the other 3 are good for by herself, in her own way, all the while having much better stats overall. I got called a nijinigger instead.

>>28511676
realistically speaking, who cares? Vshojo is willing to hire an NDA breaker, they don't respect contracts in the first place, their own, or others.

>>28511543
>40k floor
Yeah sure.

FUCK I POSTED MY LONG POST IN THE WRONG THREAD. SOMEONE PLEASE READ IT

>>28511949
>>28511949
>>28511949

35K DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>28512171
no.

>>28512134
Even the idea of 'first army' is a Nijinigger line of thinking. Hololive is unity, it supports all talents no matter how much they underperform

>>28512171
no

SELEN GOLD?
SELEN GOLD!

>>28512171
>ain't reading all that

Somebody mentioned Peko's still playing Rust and popped up begging for stuff on Moona's stream

>>28512171
Sir, this is the numbers thread

>>28512171
no

>>28512087
Aloe is still Aloe for me though, but that is likely due to us only having like 1 (one) stream of her.

>>28512171
Nej.

>>28512171
So basically irys is a mediocre singer with garbage song?

>>28512257
Made me check, fuck you moona just autisticly build her base rn

>>28511676
In any other company this would have been a super huge yab. Luckily she's in VShojo

>>28512171
No

>>28512342
It was a planned yabe, there was no reason to change the background

I just saw that people from here were raiding the Mikeneko general for some reason.
This place deserves its title as the worst thread on the board.

>>28512342
Fucking whore really does belong in Vshojo

>>28511216
someone post the nijisanji chart so we can compare

>>28512102
twitter charges for it, by traffic

To the retarded Nazucuck who kept boasting about having better views on the VOD last night; your whore only gained 41k since the last time you sperged about that, whereas Pekora gained 103k. 857kvs 790k, tick tock tick tock.
I hate numberfagging with that garbage stat but you started it yesterday.

>>28512384
>from here
ogey

38K DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>28512171
no you post it here fagot

You can pinpoint when the news spread about Pekora still being online and appearing on Moona's stream in the graph.

hololive will die in august by nijisanji koshien

>>28511939
>She's going to use her Mike avatar during Nazuna stream next!

That could be a fun idea for a stream but it might high effort for VShojo, where the streamer has the freedom to be lazy

40K DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>28512384
>/number/ is one person.
You retard still don't know how this place work huh?

>>28511391
someone's going to make a mash of this. I know one of you #s fags have a clip channel. Do it.

>>28512384
Deserved I'd say. There were no raids anyway, so off yourself nazutard.

>>28512458
this is just sad

>>28512464
Just like last year, right?
OH WAIT

Pekora super debuff game

>42

Salome ultrabuff game

>38k

>>28511676
I wonder how it even works for her because she's the only one in Vshojo who got a new character instead of using an existing one they own.
Is there technically even anything stopping her from just streaming as Nazuna on her Mikeneko account?

>>28512171

>>28512422
Wait really? How much does it cost

>>28512458
It’s crazy how Holofes and ID3 in general boosted that branch.

>>28511676
This has to be intentional right?

Natural incline

>>28512239
>All below 10k besides Mori
>Bae karaoke, Mori Karaoke buff = still bad #s
>Fauna 8.1k on Minecraft
It’s fucking over, no one wants to watch whores who will collab with males. I’ll patiently wait for the only true HoloLive girl from en to stream.

>>28512384
People were raiding your general because your general shitposted and ruined 3 fucking threads with Nazuna spam, you cunts deserved to be permabanned from the fucking board

>>28512384

Tally when

>>28512610
Hardworking girls are the cutest.

>>28512584
create a big company and request it

>>28512102
For some reason Suisei has her own topic but not Hololive

>>28512464

Swear now , they didn't start koshien this month. swear you bastard

>>28512659
1 hour from now

>>28512342
Please andastan, Vshojo management is EOP and didn't understand the contract they signed.

>>28512384
Go back to /jp/ you cucktards

>>28512610
watching kaela with sana was just too autistic for me.

>>28512648
Can't ruin what's already shit m8.

>>28512680
Then why can't Cover do that? They are a big company at this point

>>28512384
kill yourselves faggots, once a cuck will always be a cuck

>>28512171
Non merci.

>>28512650
>le ebil /#/

>>28512720
Oh man you wouldn't have survived the Kronii collab.

>>28512464
Did niji die 11 times last year?

>>28512384
:::::::::::::::::::::::REMINDER::::::::::::::::::::::::::

>>28512725
why would you pay high for it when you get to trending for free?

>>28512725
Why bother? How are they going to see a returno n that investment? The fanart alone gets them a ton of engagement. Twitter likes are great but not sure it translate into buying full birthday sets or sololive merch/tickets, which is apparently where they make an assload of their moeny

>>28512725
Because they don’t need it?

>>28512575
>Is there technically even anything stopping her from just streaming as Nazuna on her Mikeneko account?
Management-wise, no.

>>28512806
What's this?

>>28512763
thank god i missed it.

>>28512880
An admission of guilt.

>Kiara is a low tier niji
>Irys is a bottom tier niji
>Mysta is a high tier holo

amazing disparity in effort

>>28512171
Irys' original are just bad. Trust me I gave them my fair share of time but they are just shit. So far the only holos that I listen to on a regular basis are Suisei, Azki, Kanata and Ayame only, and their songs combined that are good are less than 10 songs. Holos are just not that good of singers.

>>28512911
By who? Towards what? Spoonfeed me please, anon-chama, I am a bit retarded.

>>28512914
It's like seeing two apple trees. One is tall, strong, and produces apples so large that they snap from their branches under the weight of their own fruitfulness. Other tree is barren and diseased, but manages against logic and nature to bear it's own shrivelled, husky fruit. While it can be argued that the latter is the more impressive as it has clearly had a harder time of things than it's counterpart, you'll find that most still prefer to eat from the first tree and for good reason.

>>28512914
there is no way that is true

>>28511676
Hopefully she doesn't go full menhera. She might as well put that FREEDOM to good use and have fun with it.

>>28512944
>no Towa
opinion discarded

>>28512944
>singers
you mean lyricists. the vocals themselves are fine desu but the lyrics and sound design aren't that great imo

>>28511338
>>28511480
This is very true for me.
The "Dragon of Hololive" had a huge story buff going for her y'know.
> Not monetized for a LONG time so had to live on salary, while making Asacoco every fucking day after her black company work.
> Introduced certain much-needed western internet common sense to holos, like not caring about numbers, not caring about whatever non-fans say about them, how to handle emotions when you were getting overwhelmed etc. Fubuki also helped a lot with this, but Coco was the first time we saw it up front, on screen.
> Good chemistry with literally EVERYONE else in Hololive, to the point that a "Coco collab" was something people immensely looked forward to. Her collabs also gave us a lot of iconic content like Migo's Statue of Liberty rant, the English telephone game, her heartfelt talk with Aqua after her yab, the marie antoinette clip with Watame, the clip where she teaches Rushia how to Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V (and bails her out of an Ark bug).
> When she finally got monetized, the fanbase showered her in money and affection, her chat was ALL superchats for 15 glorious minutes. An immensely cathartic story arc conclusion.
> Asacoco CMs are still a timeless classic that can still be enjoyed.
> Mini segments within Asacoco gave us a bunch of unique content that has unfortunately been mostly forgotten, like Korone's "Yakuza word" corner, Luna's "English Classroom" etc.
> Constantly banned/demonetized etc. and generally shat on by Youtube, giving her a lot of "struggling against all odds" story energy.
> Made story arcs using short videos and other members' help every time she had one of these incidents, solidifying her fanbase behind her, and appearing like a cool Yakuza anime girl all the time.
> Most kino one was during the time Youtube disabled her livestream capability, she was "put in jail" and all the other members "visited" her during jail and had all sorts of fun shenanigans.
> When she finally got it back again, she had a whole fanmade video welcoming her back, along with messages from all the members, all themed like welcoming a Yakuza boss who got out of jail.
> The hair removal streams were not my thing, but some people liked it. And if nothing else, it was something fresh.

Her content towards the end of her reign WAS getting quite stale, so I can understand why she felt like quitting, but those first 6-7 months until the zhang spergout were absolutely magical for VTuber related "la creatividad" tier content.

KSon... well she doesn't really have any of that. She's not struggling against anything, she doesn't have anything she's fighting against (other than the self-supposed "hostage situation" and her other delusions), her non-holo collabs haven't given us any kino moments, and in general she just doesn't have any story going for her.
It's no wonder why some Coco fans wouldn't watch KSon. It's really not the same at all.

>>28513027
It's 'hours streamed', and Myth has been kinda skimpy on streams in the past few weeks.

Sub projections, 1M.

>>28512914
Basically they need to do double/triple the hours of HoloEN with twice the amount of people to beat them (on hours watched).

I know Salome's debut and Koshien have made Niji look strong for a moment but some posters here are definitely gonna crash hard when we go back to normal numbers.

Wasn't Salome supposed to be at 20k like a month ago? Why is she getting 40k with rhythm heave part whatever?

>>28512541
>holding 3K-4K viewers
>sad
Come on, anon.

>>28513104
2M+

>>28513083
no holo writes their own songs except Mori, so you can't consider them songwriters though

>>28512914
Reminder

>>28511843
i'll be coming back to watch some kino performances in that 3dlive from time to time.

>>28513022
>>28513128
>>28513027
One group is working harder than the other, and they are rewarded for it

>>28513083
I include both originals and covers.

>>28513034
I like Hajimete no Chu from Towa but that's it. I didn't include it in my playlist because it was from a utawaku.

>>28513263
You mean punished? Nijisanji as a whole is reclining dumbass

>>28512384
>nazucucks raid /#/ all the time
>one image posted in nazucuck thread
>come in here and cry about it
damn i didn't know nazucucks were such little bitches
whoever did that is based tho

>>28513263
k

my knees would shatter if Kobo actually reached 3m in this time.

>>28513263
anon one group has literally 10 times the subs of the other, how does that chart prove what you're trying to say

>>28513294
NijiEN is inclining a lot. HoloEN is declining a lot.

>>28512171
I read it and you missed the one thing that every one of your examples (Mori, Suisei, Gura, Towa, Moona, Risu) has and even the ones you missed (Sora, AZKi, Okayu) also have:
>the "gap"

Every single one of those breaks expectations because there is a dissonance between the what people expect them to sound and how they actually sound
Think about it:

- Okayu and Towa: they are cute as a button but their singing voice is like the one of a crooner, a Ikemen.
Towa, for instance, in yesterday's Pekora live, damn she nailed her performance.
People go from "she's cute" to "HOLY FUCK, THAT'S HER SINGING VOICE!?" in a split second after she starts singing.

- AZKi, Suisei and Sora: you watch them playing Micra or Tetris and laughing and doing a regular stream and they're one more streamer but then when you listen to them singing in their lives you go "WTF, why are those girls wasting time behind an avatar playing vidya, they could easily be proper meatspace artists and very good ones too"

- Gura, Moona and Risu: the dissonance is set by the difference between their "animesque" streaming voices and their power singing voices
There is a reason everybody got FLOORED by Gura first and second unarchived karaoke, and by Moona EVERY unarchived karaoke, and by Risu Holofes appearance.
NOBODY expects a streamer with a fucking dolphin laughter (like Moona) to have such a powerful voice.
That was one of the things that contributed to her incline, during her MoonArchitect autism building she used to have some singing interludes and DAMN the audience was always floored by her oneesan singing voice contrasting with her dolphin fucking laughter.

(continues)

>>28513325
Selen has 3x the sub growth of Ame. That's the kind of disparity we're talking about. And this is only increasing

>>28513331
anon your chart literally proves one group has literally 10 times the subs of the other, how does that chart prove what you're trying to say

>>28513220
then their songwriters are dog shit. i think songs written by the singer has more emotion and meaning in it. mori is a wrapper so she's different i guess

>>28513331
we've literally got the graphs today that more than half of luxiem is reclining and it's their flagship gen

>>28513331
You're retarded

>>28513220
>watame
>suisei
>kanata
>azki
>chloe
This is why noone likes cucbeat

>>28513331
I knew nijikeks were retarded but holy kek

>>28513341
this is a very pertinent point, and yes I failed to mention that, having a gap is a huge part of the brand of the holosingers. Unfortunately for Irys and Watame, they kind of both sing the way you'd expect from their designs.

>>28513263
>looks at Gura
Your point falls apart there

>>28513368
that explains why dragoons are 3x more retarded than teacucks

>>28513382
Selen has 1/10th of the viewers of HoloID. She's already a 3view

>>28513432
HoloEN sub growth has completely fucking crashed.
Gura is getting less than 1000 subs per day. And she's doing the best. People like Ame are getting 600. Fauna gets 600. Kiara gets 300.

The Niji girls are all getting over 1000. People like Selen are getting near 2000

>>28512171
>>28513341
Now IRyS. She ended up setting up the "gap" in the other direction. NOBODY expected her to actually stream when she was first announced, everybody expected
>EN AZKi
a vsinger that streamer every now and then.

But from her very first gaming streams, from her very first Minecraft strream she ended up proving to be one of the best and most professional streamers of all of the HoloEN roster and that surprised and captivated the audience which, to this day, doesn't even look at her as a "VSinger".

That, OTOH, hurt her music output. She's a great singer but people listen and go "yeah, that's a nice song, as expected of a vsinger" but there is no gap, there is no dissonance.
She's fucked because people expect her to be a great singer and won't give her credit for being, but didn't count on her being a great streamer and will give her all the credit for that.

>>28513368
yeah and Turkey has literally 9x the GDP growth rate of the USA, that doesn't make them a superpower

>>28513331
Someone post the CCV median

This is so fucking fubnny. It peaks at 40k and stops growing

>>28513480
And they're fucking 3views and reclining even further

Nijis have more deadsubs than fucking Gura

>>28513486
One her problems is that her fans would rather her focus on streaming than music.

>>28513535
>reclining even further
no they aren't, they're rising a lot

>>28513331
>#'s can't into math
Not surprising, just disappointing.

>>28513480
Isn't she getting 2k a day last 2 week? And that's with stream 2 time a week (2 hours each)

>>28513368
>3x the sub growth
kek, is this some advance form of "ratiocoping"?

>>28513563
Raids aren’t an incline

>>28512171
>>28513341
IRyS isn't changing. This is going to be her direction. She is stuck

If anything anon, you should make a bigger push for genre singers, Country, Rock, Folk, Bluegrass anything that isn't jpop anime songs.

>>28513570
Nijiniggers can't into math, not /#/s

>>28513509

>>28513570
It's not /#/, it's Nijiniggers

>>28513515
Salome streams usually peaks at around the 40 minute mark.

>>28513585
Selen works 2x as hard as anyone in holoEN, and she's rewarded with a much faster sub growth.

>>28513486
great points,I do agree that Irys is a good streamer, and the effect of that on her songs is minimal, her ccv doesn't translate to her songs.

Her viewers like her streams, sure, but they don't feel the same connection with her music, which is why they won't do their reps.

>>28511338
Character and even show should be separate. I mourned for Coco because as a fucking boomer, I still remember the difference between Colbert Report and Late Night with Stephen Colbert. Shows with the same person and the same concept can be very, very different

>>28513515
Far from being the first time it does this.

>>28513368
>sub growth
what, she's gonna grow forever at the same rate?
are you dumb? you don't project trends into the future, stats 101

>>28513296
Raiding a general is like pissing into someone's drink. Raiding /#/ is like pissing into the toilet. See the difference? Too many newfags in here trying too hard to fit in. This thread is for numbers and nothing else, faggot.

>>28513368
Itll take 3 years for Selen to catch up to watson if current growth rates hold.

>>28513647
Selen works harder than HoloEN, and she's trash that should just quit streaming already because she's a fucking 3view trash

I want wait for anykara's next report. I wonder what graphs they are going to use.

>>28513585
It's the exact same shit the selennigger used to pull, first with CCV, then with SC when that stopped growing, and now they are moving to sub growth because their SCs cratered after luxiem debuted. Nijiniggers don't actually care about numbers, numbers only matter to them when they win, and they'll come up with all kinds of mental gymnastics and creative reporting in order to get that win. This is why we told you not to let nijiniggers feel comfortable here, because when they do they turn the place into a palace of lies in order to get their precious wins

how many golds does Hololive need now to win the month?

>the hard work fag was a nijinipple

kaela and moona just stream for 8h+ today, i swear to god yagoo if you didnt find someone similar like this for EN3..

>>28513647
Selen is rewarded with dead subs from chinese girls. Nothing changed from the past year, hard work doesn't mean shit.

"Natural Incline" btw

A FUCKING RAID THAT CAN'T EVENT KEEP THE RETENTION FOR 20 MINUTES ARE TRASH

>>28513486
Just face it anon, IRyS singing is shit. Last time she did a good cover was years ago. Boy that cover was better than the original and she still can't top herself.

>>28513586
yep, #s have been saying this for a while, the reason why Mori is so popular is because she is unique, even if her music is considered bad. EN3 and JP7 desperately needs some music variety. At least ID3 has Kobo who can actually play instruments though.

>>28513515
>only give me enough bots to reach 40k, im not made of money

>>28513682
>See the difference?
Yes. The difference is, people in /#/ are actually here to discuss something, where as people in your general are only here to cause problems. All of you deserve to be shit on relentlessly.

>>28513647
Selen and nijiEn suck Chink and male dick 100 times harder than any one else. That 's why she's rewarded with sub drip from the male new audience

How do they keep coming up with this shit tier angles?

>>28513665
>forever at the same rate
Please read the fucking graph, mongoloid. One shows an exponential growth, and the other a logarithmic growth.

>>28513790
kek

>>28513515
Took longer to reach her peak this time which is 2k lower than her previous one. This type of content is not sustainable In the long run.

>>28513633
She peaked at 27 minutes in her previous Rhythm heaven stream.

>>28513609
Oh no no no nijienkeks
Let's don't talk about Gura
Your duo kings can't even beat Mumei and Kronii
I thought you guys said Council is a failure and those faggots can't even beat a failure LMAO

#'s posts on reddit

>>28513740
investors will only see peaks not the entire graph.

>>28513665
If she keeps working as hard.
holoEN has stopped working hard, and so their growth rate collapse. HoloEN barely streams at all.
>>28513687
We can see ame declining on the graph, and the Nijis accelerating. The current growth rates won't hold, they'll get faster.
>>28513692
No she's not, she's extraordinarily talented and entertaining. Much more than anyone in holoEN. That's why she's growing so fast

>>28511744
>>28511761
>>28511792
>>28511798
>>28511812
>>28511837
>>28511939
>>28512118
>>28512155
>>28512342
>>28512575
>>28512596
>>28513029

it's fake, retard.

>>28511676
fuck you, made me download the vod.

>>28513803
see >>28513724
specifically
>Nijiniggers don't actually care about numbers, they only care about winning over hololive, and they'll come up with all kinds of mental gymnastics and creative reporting in order to get that win. This is why we told you not to let nijiniggers feel comfortable here, because when they do they turn the place into a palace of lies in order to get their precious wins

>>28513813
and that pattern is clearly gonna hold forever right, there's no such thing as market caps right
jesus christ

>>28513844
watching astel live kinda made me gay..

>>28513844
someone do this for Kaela, she will soon be on the same median as Moona, after the worst debut in the history of ID.

>>28513852
Didn't read your post. kys nijinigger, your 3view whore is on the way out

>>28513813
>One shows an exponential growth
>>28513852
>No she's not, she's extraordinarily talented and entertaining
wow
just wow

>>28513728
9 golds for Hololive, 5 of which are Pekora's, 7 for Nijisanji.
9 for Nijisanji, 7 for Hololive

>>28513263
Can you make a graph of this but with both Hololive and NijiEN on the same graph? The Niji graph is quite magnified; x-labels are more spaced on the bottom in comparison to the one above while y-label gaps are quite different from each other.

>>28513609
>Selen 440k subs, 3.2k CCV
>Fauna 580k Subs, 8.6k CCV
Ugh nijibros? What are those dead subs. Can make fun of Gura anymore if your going make this your point.

>>28513869
>Nijiniggers don't actually care about numbers
That's true. I've never seen nijis talking about numbers. That is a purely hololive thing. That's the only reason anyone watches hololive. It's because of the numbers. Without the numbers, people would not be watching them. Half the people are staring at the viewcounter. It's not like that in Niji

>>28513728
7, but it's gonna be REAL real close this month

>>28513954
kek you're counting the ibrahim "gold"

>>28513813
hold on let me make it easier for you

>>28513871
Damn Reine getting some top tiers for her song collabs.

>>28512944

Vox is best rapper in the world

>>28513985
Then why are you camping here?
go back to your own shithole

>>28513985
someone post that pic of the maimoto mogging the minecraft collab please

>>28513985
That's why Niji has more viewers than Hololive outside of big events right? ...right?
Keep coping nijikek

>>28514043
I'm here to shit on you, because you deserve it.

>>28514028
Rapping is not singing, no matter who does it.

>>28513844
kek is this true, graph anon? Has Stars inclined? After one year in this thread, only roberu and astel showed a good growth. The others doesn't.

>>28514030
Do you think she just pays the collab fee? haha

>talented and entertaining
More like fat and sleep inducing

>>28513985
dont rewrite the history bronies, you were fucking 3view and always bring nijis when ever you had a small victory over them at 2019

>>28513982
That's nijiniggers' favorite : deadsubs!

>>28513788
Calling women "whores" isn't discussion, SEAfriend.

>>28513985
another nijinigger who doesn't like it when the boot is on the other foot

>>28514081
I think you nijiniggers deserve the rope

>>28513985
Anyone got Pomu begging for numbers on her community post?

Just to put in perspective why that anon is "ratiocoping".
Here is the subs comparison between Ame and Selen, put together in the same chart.
It is true that "Selen growth is exponential and Ame growth is logarithm" but the incline by Selen and the slowdown by Ame put their growns at almost a paralel

Also, for reference, Ame reached the current number of subs Selen has now in about 45 days,
They don't even live in the same universe.

damn, you guys lost to tits mcdumb and you went fucking crazy

>>28513982
Selen streams 2.5 times more hours per week than Fauna. That's why CCV is not a good measure. Selen stretches her viewers more

>>28514075
Nijikeks decided they weren’t toxic anymore after they got mogged.

>>28514081
>shit on you
All you're doing is embarrassing yourself

>>28514100
hes probably counting on the success(?) of stars EN lol

>>28514148
do you think you can do one for all the people in that graph that he shows?

>>28514100
They are growing though. Holostars started at the bottom and now they have 4 views. If the rest of stars can reach 4 view status then they've won

>>28514125
>>28514161
why are nijis like this

>>28514148
Keep in mind some HoloEN girls have said they’re getting daily sub culls on top of that (Gura and IRyS).

>>28514102
She paid for the cover song production

>>28513844
>highest average live viewer
>well into the 2000s
that's not true though

>>28514234
>holofag defending males in his company.
Amazing to see

>>28514125
>>28514161
based grudgeposter

>>28514161
Nijikeks forgot when how much they shit up /jp/ when they were at the top of the game thanks to Mito and Gen 1. I fucking hate them negroes for acting like this.

>>28514125
What would full sankisei host club get now?

Servers keep fucking with the autists lately.... Aki with ARK, and now Moona with RUST.

>>28514148
>Selen growth is exponential
That's not even true - that selennigger doesn't know what the hell exponential growth means

>>28514148
>Selen's graph was plateauing before Luxiem debut
>It started growing again after
GEE, I WONDER FROM WHERE DO THOSE SUBS COME FROM.

>>28514148
More than that, at the present growth rate, if Selen never slows down and Ame never speeds up, Selen will catch up to Amelia
>in Jan 2026
about 3 and a half years from now.
For reference, Pekora whole career is 3 years now with her 3rd anniversary.

Unless she is hit by extreme luck, no amount of hard work will get Selen to incline to beat Ame in subs. The numbers are really not in her favor

>>28514277
>Saying this shit
>Manjisanji

>>28514309
Probably the Sankisei Q and A stream but +20k if it's in Pekora's channel.

>>28514277
Baffling post. Why are you so mad? Nijisanji also has males, what's the gotcha here

>>28514158
Fauna only got 3k average for her 8 hr endurant stream?

>>28514081
everyone is laughing at your retardation you aren't sucessfully shitting on anything

>>28514269
Do you honestly think people on reddit got any idea about accurate numbers?

holy based Mel's mama, should use this as a thumbnail for the next thread.

>>28514125
>>28514161
This is hilarious no matter how many times I see it. It was ok for them to do it but it was not ok for holochads to do the same when Hololive overtook Niji, and ever since they've acted like victims.
Nijikeks and their perpetual victim and persecution complex.

>>28514309
Probably 100k if it's on pekora or marine channel

Just curious, can Vox speak Chinese?

>>28514148
Thanks for the good graph, anon. This gives a clearer and bigger picture than the ones above which were dishonestly zoomed in.

Selen > Gura
Pomu > Calli, Kiara, Ina
Fish > Kronii, Irys, Fauna

>>28514369
Good thing to brought them up. How do your pathetic HoloStars compare to Kuzuha? Or even the new Voltacion? Their numbers are trash, because you are trash

>>28514416
agree

>>28514158
Down to compare vods then? If that’s true, then she should be around 80% of fauna’s vods

>>28514309
Without the green whore fucking things up it's bound to be a guaranteed 90k stream on Pekora's channel.

>>28514125
>>28514161
No wonder nijiniggers suffers from perpetual persecution complex

>>28514148
Ame subscriber growth

increment once in 15 days

>>28514277
This is number retard! The male inclined, not much for most but quite a bit for the top 2.

>>28514468

>>28514499
Selen sub growth

Someone needs to dump a fistful of bait over in the NijiEN thread, things are getting too shitty in here.

>>28514468

>>28514553
Why do none of these new subs watch her streams?

>>28514468
How, your female btw?
OH WAIT
they are bottom feeder shitters

How's your male btw?
OH WAIT
they got mogged everyday by Salami and pegor

>>28514435
like I said, Nijiniggers don't care about numbers, they only care about winning and will do anything in order to get that win, no matter how many facts they have to twist or how disingenuous they are being.

>>28514346
Ame WILL eat some bread and Selen WILL catch up to her (in 3 years)

>>28514499
>>28514553

here >>28514148
>>28514346

What the fuck mindbroke the Nijinig today?

>>28513609
I really thought the Niji EN girls were doing better holy shit

>>28514613
they slipped again

>>28514568
Just do it in the catalogue.

>>28513486
I have a competing theory:
1. IRyS' songs just aren't that good. They're professional, but they aren't "her" music so they don't really create an impression of IRyS as an artist with a distinct tone or style. They don't reflect her the way Suisei's or Mori's or Towa's music reflects them.
2. IRyS had unfortunate timing. She got debuffed by her design so a lot of people kinda ignored her until she won people over after like a whole month of streaming, but then Suisei's album dropped and stole all the attention. And when IRyS released her second EP Towa dropped Scream which is EASILY the best holo EP not just in 2022 but maybe even overall. It was fucking murder. And now IRyS released her third EP during a very busy month with a lot of shit going on. She's bad at shilling her music and Cover is bad at promoting her but there's always something competing for people's attention.

>>28514613
Mel mogged Niji again

>>28514613
banpire mogged their koshien streams

>>28514624
They're getting residual extra subgrowth from being accessories to the boys, but only really Pomu has increased her viewership on her own merits mostly (for the girls).

>>28514381
Holofags originally would have literally pulled their eyes out if males were allowed in their company. In fact, that's literally the reason hololive became the big company, because people like that pushed them, because there were no males.

But now they have you literally defending males, and making the argument "our males are better than their males". It's amazing to see their propaganda machine work out over, get you unironically rooting for males. I think the absolute truth is that people these days have no interest in the hololive talents (who are quite mediocre), they are just watching because other people are watching. Because the numbers are high.

>>28514613
>>28511843

>>28514553
That's a lot of dead subs

>>28514695
>Defending male
>"Better than yours"
FUCKING THREAD READER NIJINIGGER KYS ALREADY

Does Magni (The purple one) being Professor Lando redeem him of his awful design?
>Kamen Rider
>Sonic
>Bionicles

>>28514499
>>28514553
You surely realize that, after passing 1M subs, youtube will only increment in 10k subs instead of in 1k subs
>he doesn't
Anon, don't tell me you didn't know that?

Look again at this chart:
>Ame is over one million subs ahead of Selen.
and
>Selen is removing 1k subs in difference per day
Do the math and tell me how long it would take for Selen to overtake Ame at the present rate, **assuming** she wouldn't slow down after grown a little bit more

>>28513813
>exponential growth

Sure I guess but that's only temporarily. Lots of folks here throw around words like "exponential" and "logarithmic" without knowing what they mean.

If anything, subscriber growth should follow a logistic trend.

>>28514613
Was it worse when Kobo BTFO Vox in subs? Wasn't around that week when it happened

>>28514695
HoloStars are fucking years old you stupid nijinigger...

>>28513331
I guess it's as good a time as any.

## NIJICOPE LIST - FULLY SOURCED EDITION
Numbered for your convenience and easy referencing.
Full list here (includes the removed shitposts, falseflags, schizoposts, non-niji and unsourced copes) : https://rentry.org/nijicopes/raw

** FRAMED IN GOLD - Direct from Anycolor and the Livers themselves **
> #01 Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural slow and steady growth (>>20457274) (<span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/31785447)</span>
> #02 Luxiem/Noctyx earn as much as Holo JP (>>19597187)
> #03 Council didn't do as well Luxiem (>>19597187)

** CLASSIC **
> #04 Nijisanji has SOUL/Quality (>>>/jp/31465719 <span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/35484805 >>>/jp/36325406)</span>
> #05 Nijisanji has better chemistry (>>4962776 <span class="deadlink">>>5591760 >>6383777)</span>
> #06 Nijisanji is building a sub-culture/VTubing culture (>>10983732 <span class="deadlink">>>11015414 >>11105922)</span>
> #07 Superchats don't matter, Nijisanji has more merch sales [no evidence] (>>>/jp/25750975 <span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/30117222 >>>/jp/31524177 >>>/jp/34129071 >>>/jp/34630791)</span>
> #08 Nijisanji has more creative freedom (>>>/jp/25078156 <span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/35915283 >>>/jp/36404268 >>>/jp/36412049)</span>
> #09 Foreign audience bad, local Nips good (>>>/jp/23900990 <span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/31522946 >>>/jp/31923947 >>2689172 >>3342175 >>3343926 >>3555435)</span>
> #10 Nijisanji is more popular than Holo in Japan (>>>/jp/27419919 <span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/29231034 >>>/jp/29352658 >>>/jp/34766571 >>1843302 >>3773035 >>7615028)</span>
> #11 Google trends (>>1787083 <span class="deadlink">>>1784574 >>2871777)</span>
> #12 This will be the end of Hololive/Holobubble will burst (>>10226380 <span class="deadlink">>>10959272 >>11111437)</span>
> #13 YouTube Trends (>>11812348)
> #14 Niji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market (>>12171645)
> #15 Cover and hololive fans use bots (>>3225905 <span class="deadlink">>>4283312 >>24804708)</span>
> #16 Hololive's restrictive management will cause their talents to eventually graduate (>>8445392 <span class="deadlink">>>11875343)</span>
> #17 Fortune telling a.k.a "J-just wait, Cover will fuck up something someday" (>>14561348 <span class="deadlink">>>14752560 >>14752914 >>21529067 >>22935912 >>23288417)</span>

** NUMBERS **
> #18 Ratiocope (>>5536896 <span class="deadlink">>>8648645 >>13972862 >>14457547 >>20388935)</span>
> #19 Dead cat bounce (>>10959272 <span class="deadlink">>>13922827 >>14015995 >>14198900)</span>
> #20 Quality numbers (>>14001847)
> #21 Just combine the peak CCV of all our streams and we win (>>13902618)
> #22 Statistics are fake numbers (>>15032001)
> #23 Luxiem has a better profit margin than Holofes (>>20201927)
> #24 Vox has the FASTEST SUB GROWTH in VTuber History (>>21373805 <span class="deadlink">>>21374368)</span>

** MERCH AND SPONSORS **
> #25 Holo merch is underproduced to create artificial scarcity (>>>/jp/32410399 <span class="deadlink">>>5902529 >>15489004 >>16388154)</span>
> #26 Holomerch sold out means the company regretted the collab (>>12121308)
> #27 You buy merch - even if it's shit - to support the liver, not to actually use it (>>23937339)
> #28 Sponsorships are retarded (>>12109798)
> #29 Associating with Hololive is toxic for Bushiroad's growth because China (>>19752522)

** IT DOESN'T COUNT **
> #30 Concerts and return streams don't count (>>11676374)
> #31 Outfit reveals don't count (>>14891587)
> #32 Pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count (>>12296330)
> #33 Koshien is not an event (>>12127247)
> #34 Bookwalker doesn't count (>>19629617)

** GENERAL **
> #35 Holocope list (>>12296493 <span class="deadlink">>>12457630 >>14120649)</span>
> #36 Niji is still #1, they just removed it from their webpage to show humility (>>11747638)
> #37 Trailers are the same as advertisements (>>10992803 <span class="deadlink">>>10992938)</span>
> #38 Holo EN was a desperate gambit to find an audience (>>11753740)
> #39 Hololive just got lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side (>>>/jp/29352541)
> #40 *Selen delusion here* (>>8854844 <span class="deadlink">>>12533326 >>12955114 >>13021182 >>13045705 >>13445167 >>14879823)</span>
> #41 Nijifans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement (>>12085330)
> #42 Trickle down viewers - "The big Nijisanji livers' viewers will trickle down to smaller channels" (>>12755553 <span class="deadlink">>>12755712 >>26476805 >>26704868)</span>
> #43 Nijifans will only watch a stream and Holofans will watch 3-4 so the Niji refresh rate is higher (>>17835784)
> #44 Niji is smart for not wasting money on useless conventions/concerts (>>20202005)
> #45 No true Nijifan - "There are no Nijifans here, only falseflaggers trying to make Nijifans look bad" (>>24913466, <span class="deadlink">>>26079927, >>26102448, >>26685075, >>26702974, >>26688516)</span>

And when all else fails...
> #46 Blatant Lying
> Vox is "higher" than Gura (>>24420454)
> Vox got a bigger billboard (>>24424746)
> Mika is the Queen of ID (>>24426268)
> SEA belongs to Mysta (>>24423909)
> Calling a straight graph a "worm" (>>24427484)

And after all that...
> #47 Playing the Victim : >>5836502 <span class="deadlink">>>11753740 >>13804174 >>14751831</span>

>>28514695
Being a holofag and Being a homobeggar are two mutually exclusive things, despite what the beggars may claim

>>28514613
Mel mogged Koshien

>>28514709
why are nijiniggers like this?

>>28514801
>You surely realize that, after passing 1M subs, youtube will only increment in 10k subs instead of in 1k subs
yeah you stupid sack of shit, that's why I said increment once every 15 days, I expected you to be able to work out the math yourself. But I guess you're making this trivial point, which any reasonable person could discern that I already understood based on my post.

>>28514653
1. Maybe IRyS can't sing originals? Her biggest hits, Renai and Railgun are covers. She should do more good covers, even English covers are fine.
2. Redjuice is a hack.

>>28514851
Based.

>>28514784
Yes, unironically the dude is based and he knows what he's doing. I believe he can be StarsEN's Gura

>>28514872
that's the 50 cent army

>>28514695
they aren't in hololive though they are holostars

>>28514874
your post is stupid anyway and there's like 3 graphs above you proving you wrong

>>28514784
HE'S IN

>>28514784
>Does Magni (The purple one) being Professor Lando redeem him of his awful design?
Well, here is one of his skits.
https://twitter.com/Professor_Lando/status/1450543318312517635
If that alone doesn't redeem him in the eyes of this thread, NOTHING ELSE will, EVER!

>>28513648
>they don't feel the same connection with her music
Because the songs arent about her. The best holo songs and covers can be linked to the idol journey that the audience has watched for themselves. Palette and My Song are both ‘becoming’ songs and a step on the idol journey. Ghost is basically a chuuba anthem that really needed someone with Suisei’s experience as indie and corpo. Mori using disses against her is known. Irys songs are just too separate from her streamer. Hell I would argue Azki’s songs tend to flop because they rely too much on her roommate experiences which unfortunately, arent shown on stream.

>>28514866
So at this point, why do you worship hololive, other than your desire to rim Yagoo's asshole? They are no different from Nijisanji from your perspective right?

It really is just numberfagging. That's all it is. That's the only reason people watch it

>>28514695
They're not Hololive. They're Holostars. They're separate. How mindbroken are you nijikeks right now? Jesas.

>>28513871
Good shit, Reine picks good stuff to cover.

>>28511092
Me too
I have watched mike but somehow that's still not the same...

>>28514947
ah fuck you're back
why

>>28514874
Then, again, do the math
>Ame has 1M subs over Selen
>Selen is removing 1k per day of that difference
How long it would take for Selen to get where Ame is now?
How long it would take for Selen to get past future Ame?

Your point seems to be
>it's imminent
my point is
>Sometime near 2026, if nothing changes and she never slows down, and she never stops working hard, she can reach where Ame will be

I have my own theory. Irys is neither an amazing singer nor an amazing streamer. She's mediocre at both.
She should be grateful for getting what numbers she already has and should just work on either being an actually entertaining streamer or an actually good singer, since she certainly cant do both

>>28514962
Putting the males into "holostars" was a clever marketing trick to provide the illusion that they are in two different companies. That's how they got you to accept them. In reality the so-called "holostars" ARE really a part of hololive. And they even collab with the girls in hololive.

>>28514947
hololive have way better talents on average

>>28514947
Oh, hello, rimjob anon.

>>28514947
>>28515001
he's been shitting up threads all day because tempus really threatens him
>>28506253
>>28498887
>>28498557
>>28497376

>rimjob anon is back
lol this shit is just reruns of schizos at this point.

>>28514812
Second graph eerily looks like the human population graph. Is Earth at its carrying capacity?

The nijitranny is too desperate for attention today

>rimjob anon
Hey it's been a while

>>28514947
>other than your desire to rim Yagoo's asshole
kek, what's with this anon and his obsession with untoward acts directed at Tanigo delicate flower?

>>28514946
This is true. Irys' problem really is her music feels churned out with no creative passion, she's just a glorified vocaloid.

>>28514851
BASED

>>28514416
Even Mel's mama wants to fuck Mel.

>>28515039
It’s funny how board opinion on the purple one changed quite a bit just from his tweets.

>>28514161
old /vyt/ and /#/ is really just the same shit

>>28515025
No they really don't anon. And you wouldn't actually know, because you've never watched any other vtubers.

Actually hololive has shit models, shit rigging, and shitty or average talents. Like Baelz, Kronii, Mumei, Kiara, Ame.....etc. These are average streamers at best. They are surpassed by a great number of other vtubers who are much more worth watching.

>>28514695
I have nothing against holostars and wish them best, as long as they don't interact with my 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5 oshi.
>but but but they will i promise just you wait
Sorry, my oshis aren't whores, chose better oshis next time.

>>28512384
mike sucks mfmf cock

>>28514416
whoa mama ...

>>28514947
Kys

>>28515146
>>my oshis aren't whores
>he doesn't know

>>28513341
I don't really agree with this one. Offhand, the ones who've succeeded in Hololive as at least moderate-output singers without a significant gap are:
>Fubuki, Ayame, Aqua, Shion, Marine, Kanata, Ina(?)

And honestly, I'd throw these three into the same pile of "no actual gap"
> AZKi, Suisei and Sora
AZKi and Sora are as equally stock photos as IRyS and Watame, I dunno where you're pulling gap from. Hell, AZKi's numbers were worse than IRyS' before they finally nuked INNK and forcibly dragged her into the box with consecutive song collabs. Suisei might seem like she has a gap, but ultimately her brand is kinda "cool independent woman" so I wouldn't say her regular streams have a real gap from her music.

I'd also throw some spare shade at including Risu in these discussions, because even if she's technically a good singer, she hasn't actually succeeded yet; the cold hard numbers say she's getting run over by Reine, and even Ollie has one breakout.

>>28514947
RIMJOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
SCHIZOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>28515137
numbers basically took over the spirit of old /vyt/ now that /vyt/ is basically dead. It's how you can ask about any old obscure chuuba in here and you'll find one or two people who know about her

>>28515142
Damn, you're really seething huh

>>28514947

>>28515039
The sheer projections in those posts kek

>>28515194
my oshi's a confirmed dyke with past girlfriends

>>28514784
is it confirmed he's lando? i watched a few of his stuff a long time ago

Fucking Mori reacting normally to Homos. We ran out of bait for the schizos

Rio uproar sub 61k (Holostar)
Mariokart collab
>1,687 ccv

Himawari Honma sub 695k (Nijisanji)
Raft collab
>1,289 ccv

We should save who ?

>>28515142
No I will not watch your 2views, piss off

>>28515146
Come on, Astel is a cute shy boy, let him play APEX with your oshi!
>he cute!
Astel got so nervous with Choco and Roboco he mixed their voices and called Choco "Roboco-san"
>and they promptly cornered him and stole his virtue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcNzOTCK3NQ

>>28515142
>They are surpassed by a great number of other vtubers who are much more worth watching
Yeah, and at least one of those quote Hololive as her inspiration.

>>28515265
SAVE HONMA
YAGOO PLEASE

>>28515017
Selen passes ame on Soras 10th anniversary.... Sugoi...

>>28515020
All ENs are mediocre streamers at best. I hope they got real streamers in EN3.

>>28515017
My point is that most of Ame's subs are dead subs. And that she's not bringing in new subs, so her audience will evaporate over time. Because as time increases, her subs gradually turn into dead subs, and her audience dries up. Unless she's taking in new subs, her audience will fall. Her long term audience is not proportional to her subscribers, but to her rate of increasing subscribers. That's why you can predict her audience to start falling over time. And that's why you can predict Selen's audience to start rising over time

>>28515094
Irys needs a song that talks about having a face that doesnt seem like hers as a take that to her model problems. It’ll make dimes with the right tunes

>>28515265

>Delete Delete Delete Report Report Report Delete Delete Delete Report Report Report

>>28514947

>>28515265
SAVE HONMA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>28515142
atleast half of my top10 aren't from hololive, you can cry and seethe as much as you want but people will enjoy things that you don't

>>28515142
>who are much more worth watching.
I'm not watching NijiEN