/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>28399762
>your top two streamers
lol

I'm on the Vshojo train after this bold move.

Their choice they'll find that the Twitch crowd won't be as kind to them as the Japanese

>>28399762
>believing their lies
ngmi

>heterochromia
barf. makes me appreciate how good k-son's chuuba design is

>>28399762

>>28399988
1.5k-2k more than usual, it's working.

>>28399852
They're in fact kinder than any damn YouTube greyname ever was.
>>28399988
Inclining? You do realize that's only going to keep going up with her new fans?

>>28399762
>ditch you
OP is a faggot for dramafagging without the MINIMUM knowledge of Hololive.


ONE IS TERMINATED.

>>28399825
Yes, and by a massive margin

>>28399762
>ditch you
Retard, she literally got terminated

We're now entering the age of Vshoujo

>>28400816
And Phase Connect since Nijisanji is also reclining hard.

>>28400584
by one metric
superchats are a fraction of their income after merch, sponsorships, etc
you can't possibly argue they were the two biggest Hololive vtubers when people like Pekora exist

>>28400903
Money talks, don't get defensive when confronted with facts. Fan input and earnings are everything.

>>28400903
I can since both of them massively outearned her
You're welcome to post other metrics

>>28399762
Anon, she will absolutely accept going back as Rushia if Cover ever offered her. Why they are not offering her?

>>28400960
And Cover still fired Rushia like it was nothing.

OH SAY CAN YOU SEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>28400903
Not sure about Rushia but Coco is much bigger than pekora
If you disagree i will asume you are from china

>>28399762
>top two streamers

>>28401279
>Not sure about Rushia but Coco is much bigger than pekora
>If you disagree i will asume you are from china
You say this but Pekora already had more/higher subs, views, ccv than her

>>28400584
pekora makes $1mil in merch in just a single month, anonchama

>>28401181
This image is stupid and I love it.

>>28399762
I thought the black company fired them tho? Pretty telling that the only nips that can be convinced to join vshitshow are the ones that are unemployable in Japan

>>28401550
In top-line revenue.

>>28401116
Not a chance she'll ever go back to that sweatshop or be kept on a leash for your Stockholm Syndrome.
>>28401279
Coco's total earnings are worth more than Cover Corp's net worth sadly

>>28401539
Still hasn't earned enough to be deemed more relevant than Coco, and she never has actually made any differences in shaping the industry as it is like Coco did.
>>28401550
Who cares about merch? None of that goes to the talent at all. It's 100% in VShojo btw since it's marketed under said talent.

>>28401789
You need to be a nijinigger to get away with just lying like that, I'm afraid you have to stick it to little league

>>28401863
Nijisanji is arguably worse than Hololive in terms of the parent company department, but go on.

>>28401855
retardchama, hololive doesnt invest and doesnt take cuts in merch, unless the talent asks for help in the initial investment - which few do, because they arent dumb. Their profit is about 70-80% of the sales, while vshojo takes half of the merch prefit, making them win something like 40% of the sales, as they also discount the initial investment.

>>28400584
>That one random Korean political channel placed in 7th place
>Highest peak 1st
When did North Korea allow Youtube?

>>28402172
>hololive doesnt invest and doesnt take cuts in merch
That's where they're lying to you. They absolutely take 100% cut in all merch sales. And nice lie about VShojo taking half of merch profit. You had it the other way around. And SC earnings get closer to the millions than merch sales ever would.

>>28399762
"This company is much better than my previous one" say the previous one's former employees who owe literally 99% of their career to them but weren't stable enough to keep their dream job.

>>28401855
Do you hear what you are saying anon?
I am not a Holoshill but please, come on don't do this.
I watch Nijisanji, Phase connect, Hololive, Kawaii, Prism and used to watch Vshojo. But Veibae and the Vshojo fans filtered me really hard

>>28399893
>spends two weeks seething over kson and nazuna announcement

>>28402246
ah, so you're just trolling after all. Get some rope and drop on it

>>28402306
>Spends two weeks trying to get bromies attention.
I can't decide which one is worse, though atleast the holo whores make good content

>>28402444
what content?

Why are they celebrating getting Yagoo's sloppy seconds? Rushia's only skill is GFE, her platform is now very tangential to the target Japanese audience, and she's still mentally ill and deranged.

>>28399762
>spend their debuts gushing about how much better this agency is

... Did you expect them to trash their own new company? Ofc they're saying that, literally why wouldn't they?

>>28399762
>spend their debuts gushing about how much better his agency is
Reminds me of the "Nijisanji is a family" tweets whenever another wave of Niji graduations starts or someone yabbed again.
Their debuts were already filled with talking points given out by their new "totally not a company" bosses. Enjoy your freedom in prison, I guess.

>>28402725
>GFE
>skill
acting like a proper woman is a skill?

>>28401181
in to my eyes
like open doors

Is Vshitshow actually popular outside of /vt/ contrarians?
I imagine normalfags who want to watch girls spit on each other would cringe at anime avatars

>>28402753
Because their whole identity became "other company BAD". They're nothing but hired shills.

>>28402995
Rent free

>>28402918
>Proper
She acted like a retarded yandere schizo, and technically, yes, since it's the only way she's able to survive as a drying up hag.

>>28400903
So what you're saying is, when you combine superchat earnings with the income they made from merch and sponsorships, that still puts Rushia and Coco on top anyway?

>>28399825
Cope

its funny when you think about how they wouldnt have a career like they do without Cover

>>28405008
It's even funnier when you realize vshojo wouldn't have picked them up if they hadn't got big in hololive first

>>28405121
Its dunny when you realise holofags have been seething all throughout july

>>28405588
Yea, its not like seething retards keep making "okay i hate cover now" or "cover black!1!!!" threads

>>28399762
>Former Hololive members
>Broke VShojo’s records on Twitch on their debuts
>Not even one of those with high CCV in Hololive, but that’s obvious if you compare their debuts to HoloX’s
I don’t know. That made it looked like Cover is pretty great if even their mid-tier, view-wise, talents can dominate other group at the beginning

It`s Pekora`s Anniversary 3D live stream and Kson can`t have the decency to not overlap her former co-worker. This is the American snake friend who quited the club to make more money.

>check out this new not-Rushia streamer
>everyone just making the same shitty LE ERIC BOIN jokes
So tiresome, imagine getting free money from dickheads who don't understand you because of jokes

>>28406248
They are now her enemies.

>>28406248
But when Hololive streams over their debut that doesn't count, right?

>>28399762
yeah, rushia wouldn't be biased at all when she got ousted against her will. imagine supposedly hating the company so much that you start threatening to kill yourself over the prospect of leaving.

>they actually thought it WASN'T her
heh

>>28400903
Pekora doesn't even earch superchats that go directly to their pockets. Also Pekora only earns big money like twice a year lmao. Her cut from merch is obviously not even 10% because of how much production is involved in it.

>>28399762
They're just bitter, especially miguel

>>28401550
>pekora makes $1mil in merch in just a single
retard 100% of that doesn't go to her. most likely 50% already goes to cover and the remaining goes to production costs, designer of the product, producers and whatever shit is involved. She's most likely only getting 5-10% of that and that only happens once a year. It's not even close to what Coco or Rushia earns every fucking month.

Realistically, what is Pekora even going to spend that money on? Air fresheners for her hikki stink cave? Cover is doing the right thing by just giving her enough to be stocked up with gin and top ramen.

>>28402995
You would have to be an actual retard to think they weren't. Twitch is the biggest streaming platform on the planet and Vshojo routinely dominates it. The only people that beat them out on routine basis are fucking juggernauts like asmongold or xQc. Even the traditional twitch thots all the normies love don't keep up with Mouse, Nyanners, and Vei's numbers. Nevermind when Bubi, Kson, and Nazuna streamed and had 3 to 5 times as many as the prior three people I mentioned.

>>28412099
I cant see the spanish count number in your cokment here, Ibai and Auron need to see other places now, I guess

>>28412099
>all the normies love don't keep up with Mouse, Nyanners, and Vei's numbers
Anon, only mouse out of those 3 manages to average 10k viewers.

REPEAT AFTER ME ANONS
TALENT FREEDOM!! (To be a whore)
TALENT FREEDOM! (To break NDA)
TALENT FREEDOM!!! (To not have responsibilities)
TALENT FREEDOM!! (to talk about politics)
TALENT FREEDOM! (To not be a professional)
TALENT FREEDOM!! (To be an activist)

>>28411739
She said she wants to buy a race horse or something yesterday

>>28412300
gringos never mention them because they don't fit their narrative

>>28402444
>whores
>pomu.png

>>28412099
>dominates the platform
>can't even beat a company average from previous corpo on You-fucking-tube.

>>28402444
Holy false flag. Pick literally any other chuuba for this shit before your family starts having accidents, brony.

>>28402995
Vshojo is actually more popular with normalfags than it is in /vt/. They hang out with actual big streamers like offlineTV, trash taste, ludwig, etc.

>barely above 50k (with help from a 30k raid)

>>28422385
Those are great numbers for Twitch though, even more considering JPs don't really use the platform.

TALENT FREEDOM

>>28399762
>the only evidence I need that Cover sucks is German Reich level propaganda
you are beyond retarded

>>28422485
That one thing I am trying to escape from

>>28422469
>those are great numbers for Twitch
lmao, twitch fucking sucks

>>28422563
Twitch is a better platform for streamers than youtube, it's why the biggest streamers there only change platforms when paid big bucks.

>>28399762
Rushia's the one who got ditched lmao

>>28422700
This is rapidly changing and likely will not be true in two years. YouTube is changing its streaming options to be more like those of Twitch. And, for all of Susan's faults, YouTube is a far more competently led company than tranny-moderated Twitch.

>>28422700
>it's better because it gives them less viewers and thus less revenue
Ah.
I see

>>28399762
It says more about these "top streamers" than Hololive.
They were too arrogant to think they would be well without that "greedy company" but ultimately failed. Son now they have nothing to do but belong to a dustbin called VShojo.

>>28422871
More viewers don't always equal more revenue when the revenue cut you get from subs, bits and ads is better on twitch than youtube.

>>28422832
It's true youtube is improving and has the potential to be better due to the better copyright system and how VODs are ready right after streaming, but it'll take some time to get there.

>>28422700
We got an expert over here

>>28422700
But for how long, increased revenue cuts, forced ads, not consistent bans and unbans, blatant favouritism. It always feels like twitch is going to implode anytime.

>>28401279
anon, coco used to be a 3k shitter before the graduation arc

>>28423082
Twitch is definitely going to die at some point but youtube not picking up the pace is stopping it.

>>28423041
Not an expert but most /vt/ schizos seem to be very disconnected from the reality of the medium.

>>28423032
So that's why there are like 5 channels with much more than 50k viewers right now on twitch, I see

>>28422485
lmao twitchthots can barely read and they think they can put out commentary on SCOTUS decisions

I don't particularly like twitch but it does recommend me new vtubers consistently. Youtube doesn't recommend me jack shit. If you're a small indie on youtube I have no idea how anyone is supposed to find you.

>>28423283
50k viewers on twitch means a huge, top tier channel, like xQc and such. Amouranth, considered one of the biggest female streamers, gets like 10k to 20k iirc, and she makes bank.

You should really read from opinions of actual streamers about platforms to get a good picture of Youtube vs Twitch.

>>28423431
That's one of Youtube's biggest flaws, visibility is shit and their streaming tab is hard to navigate compared to Twitch if you want to find something. Lots of streamers have complained about it.

>>28423552
And yet she will never reach those 50k again, both because the debut buff is temporary, and because she can't count on 30k raids every time.
But yeah good on her for being free from the corp she only left because she fucked up hard I guess, I hope her new TALENT FREEDOM protects her from any future fuckups

>Coco is much bigger than pekora
>Coco's total earnings are worth more than Cover Corp's net worth
no way there is people actually this retarded

>>28424586
>no way there is people actually this retarded
Welcome to /vt/, run while you still can

>>28399762
>backpack merchant
holy shit I laughed way too hard at this

>Nijisanji said superchat is a small percentage of profit.
>Holo says the same.
>B-B-B-BUT MY SUPERCHAT EARNINGS.

Merch/Sponsorships > Membership > SC.
Always has been and confirmed by Matsuri.

This IS an interesting development, to be sure, but I think it's more relevant to consider how 'vTuber agencies' operate vs how an actual 'agency' operates.

Imagine if, say, Chris Hemsworth, had to change his name and his entire look if he changed agencies. Pretend he was never Chris Hemsworth. Pretend he doesn't know anyone he every worked with or the work he was in.

That is the current state of corporate vTubers.

>>28400584
holy fuck

>>28424810
He should, to be honest. Part of the reason the Thor movies have been going in a downward spiral is because the writers go "oh haha Chris Hemsworth is a funny guy, let's adapt the role for him, it'll be meta and the audiences will love it because they love Chris" - fuck you. That's not Thor any longer.
Imagine a world where only the characters existed, where you couldn't bring up the person behind the role without being frowned upon in common society. Movies would be more immersive and closer to pure fiction.

>>28424810
That's a retarded take. The character is provided to them by the agency the same way an anime studio provides a seiyuu her role.

>>28422008
>Mobile User
Yeah this is a Vshojo fag

>>28399762
>gushing about how much better his agency
That sounds like a legit women cope
>it's so much better now

>>28425944
>phones are...le bad
Are.....are you seriously trying to mock someone for not posting from their computer? You realize that just makes you look like a NEET right?

>>28426497
>You realize that just makes you look like a NEET right?
More like someone that can afford a computer

>>28426604
>computer
Is it a Samsung or a Huawei?

>>28411309
Polka says SCs are peanuts, the money is in merch and sponsors. Matsuri says SCs are 10% of her income.

>>28423431
well youtube is trying their best to hide chuubas from their viewers. can't have anime girls completely overshadowing the people you paid millions for after all

>>28423335
You don't even go out of your room and think you can comment on anything.

>>28425879
Thor movies were complete dogshit until Ragnarok.

>>28401702
the merch is manufactured 5c a piece by the ID branch

zen...

>>28402265
It's the other way around. Hololive would not be where it is today if not for Coco and Gen 3 generally. And specifically, Rushia, Marine, and Pekora. Rushia would have been a success whereever she went, and will be at Vshojo. No one can do what she does.

>>28400584
Based Cover, placing other talents safety over monetary gain.

>>28426735
That's because Cover takes a huge chunk of them. Vshojo doesn't. It makes sense then that two biggest superchat chubas on the planet would want to leave for a company that lets them keep more of their superchat money. It's just smart business. Nothing personal, peko

>>28429584
She did little for the company besides carve out a space of mentally deranged fans that acted like the rest of them didn't exist. She exchanged box-tourists with EOP trash and much like kson her numbers will drop and she'll be lucky to get half of what she had before.

>>28411309
Stupid shit. At least get enough information correct to pass as a stream watcher when your larp.

>>28429813
>would want to leave for a company that lets them keep more of their superchat
But I was told they've been canned. D-did they lie to me?

>>28428288
Ragnarok was dissonant garbage that went back and forth between scenes of unfunny slapstick humor and scenes of Thor's friends getting murdered by his sister. It completely squandered the adaptation of one of the greatest scenes to ever grace a Thor comic (Skurge's death) and literally used Asgard's destruction as the punchline to a joke.
Not to say the first two movies were good but Ragnarok was a new low. I haven't seen the newest one because JaneThor is one of the worst things Marvel ever did.

>>28429584
>Rushia would have been a success whereever she went
She wasn't until Cover picked her up.
>No one can do what she does.
What did Rushia do for company's popularity? Coco at least made an effort to attract EOPs on the wave of Hololive's rising popularity due to lockdown and growing clip scene.

>>28425879
this is an interesting take to me. i never cared to learn the names of actors / personalities / influencers but everyone around me (and society at large) does. streamers, etc included. i also get much more immersed in fiction. thanks for the input.

>"We have top SC in Holo. Suck it haters!"
>"Well actually SC doesn't matter lmao"

>>28422008

>>28430570
wtf is wrong with her face

>>28430941
She's Pomu.

>>28426706
iPhone if you must know

Cover's actions have consequences.
Top streamers don't just die when you fire them. They can come back as competitors.

>>28431029
more like the crimson chin

>>28430542
>New information proves they don't matter as much.
>Retard still makes bait with it.

>>28431802
Don't shit talk her, dude. She'll crush you with her chin of steel.

>>28431558
with irrelevant numbers yeah

>>28431889
Pomu is fine,
that picture isn't

>>28427255
And twitch is banning them because anime artstyle = actual hecking child. Both platforms are dogshit, but twitch is worse purely due to emote and general chat culture.

>>28431824
>we are no longer winning in SC quick make excuses!

Hilarious

>>28404235
I know you are. Continue to cry about it. :)

>>28399762
That's just how americans do business
Shitting on other companies
These girls just took the chance I don't blame them

>>28432497
this is extremely funny because "superchats dont matter" was one of the original nijicopes

>>28433267
And nijifags were always saying that merchandise is the most important. This shit is too funny.

>>28399762
>vcucks are left to pick up scraps

>>28399762
>gushing about how much better your new job is
>on your first day of working there

>Leech your content from other creators(react videos
>Leech your talents from other companies
Based VShojo

>>28429584
>Rushia would have been a success whereever she went, and will be at Vshojo.
lol
How long before her next meltdown?

>>28432497
>Koyori
what the fuck
>in fact all of holoX
>except for the child
lapu...

>>28399762
>a fat whore and a mentally ill traitor feel more at home in vshitshow than Hololive
Positively shocking

>Vshojo JP

>>28432497
Who the fuck is giving vox money

>ditch you

Kson is one thing but that's an odd way of saying "fired for gross violations of contract" for the other one.

>>28423083
There are so many sources that say literally the opposite of what you're saying.

>>28430198
Ragnarok is shit in a different way to all the other movies. But at least it was entertaining compared to the older movies.

>>28435188
Lonely chink milfs

>>28402995
Its popular on Twitch so the most normal fag of low IQ brainlets. They're popular among the same people who think social media and casual sex are the only things that matter in life.

>>28433797
You realize Hololive has leeched a Nijisanji talent right?

>>28401855
>shaping the industry as it is like Coco did
What Holo EN? Coco just put trash in the vtuber industry.

>>28429584
Who are Fubuki, Miko, Korone, Sora, Choco, Aqua, Matsuri and Suisei you motherfucking baboon ass nigger retarded vshoujo wormeater newfag