/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Watching streamers in general has always been low-tier popcorn entertainment. But if you must, I would recommend going to small corpos or doing JP reps.

nigga does your whole life revolve around who you watch on the computer? seriously asking

>>28413455
Behead tourist.

Just watch films, Youtube,TV,etc and no streamers if you're that upset about it, Jesus Jesus Japanesus.

>>28413230
Watch anime play vidya read VNs etc.
Or if you want to go the productive route start exercising, eat healthier and groom yourself to force an habit. It's not that hard and I can guarantee these are good starting steps.

>holo as a whole is done
>pekora just had a 140k+ concert
fuck off

>>28413455
This is a vtuber board were we talking about vtubers. There's some people here that are very big fans. I don't fault them for it. Not everyone's life is amazing and if they can enjoy spending some time with a cute girl over a screen who am I to say it's wrong.
I don't know what to do about this though either.

What happened, why is everyone seething?
I couldn't watch vtubers for a while, so I missed the drama

>>28413679
StarsEN debuts tonight.

>>28413679
Creep starsEN are debuting

>>28413230
I improved myself by not loving her anymore, it's not whst she wants.

>>28413741
>>28413757
Not the guy you replied to but they arent even called holostars though? If they arent that is indeed a big red flag for anyone that doesnt like it

>>28413614
"Can't outlift autism"

>>28413679
ENbulls will soon fuck every hole from ENsluts.

>>28413897
I would feel honestly better in this circumstance if my oshi had a boyfriend.

>>28413741
>>28413757
>>28413897
How's Amelia connected to all of it?

It's fascinating to watch the old guard of Hololive slowly die out as new viewers come in to take teir place

>>28414065
Her recent Q and A she says she's open for collabs with them, also destroyed her goslings by telling they are garbage that needs to grow up.

>>28414052
Saplings welcome all

>>28414117
It's interesting to hear some Niji EN oldfags talk about the same process. It sounds awful

>>28413614
No, go the degenerate route. Become a tulpamancer and acquire tulpas.

>>28414387
What's a tulpa?

>>28414235
The exact same thing is already happening. In a few months if you have a problem with the homos hitting on any of the girls you're going to get swarmed by a mob of fujoshits telling you to touch grass incel

>>28413230
nothing happened yet, trust the plan.

>>28413614
I could go back to Anime but there hasn't been a good cute girls do cute things in a while. Honestly seems like vTubers took over that niche. I wish I could the Yuru Camp movie but it's not out in the states.

>>28414490
It's where you forcefully create an imaginary friend

>>28414490
Google it

>>28414224
The retarded manchild reallu need yo be fucking embarassed because if they are allowed to keep up the charade that they will one day marry Ame or Gura they will probably off themselves a decade from now when they graduate instead of thinking "Wow that was a great run" and moving on

>>28413230
>Delusional ranting
Ok.

>>28413230
>>>/vt//asp/

>>28414888
I mean most of us are gonna off ourselves I imagine. I would rather do it a while down the line after my oshi had a successful career and a mutual graduation

I've already made the switch to Phase Connect.

>>28413455

thread theme

https://youtu.be/vVVjMvZNEws

>>28413230
I'm moving on with my life. Amelia won.

>>28415250
Don't they have that self hating /here/ chuuba that panders to reactionaries? Doesn't sound like my cup of tea.

>>28415401
>/here/ chuuba that panders to reactionaries
Sounds based, might check it out if holoEN really does go to shit.

Lol.

>HololiveEN is done
Delusional, the angry bubble here is just sea foam in the ocean of their fans
>possibly holo as a whole
And this is just retarded ignorance. Pekora just had almost 200k people watch her concert. Hololive as a whole is bigger than ever

>>28415335
Don't make me cry any harder anon

>>28415521
You don't get it do you? This opens the door to male female collabs across the board. Peko is gonna see how much Gura is having fellating the Alchemist and next thing you know Uproar is running a train on Peko. That's all it takes.

>>28413230
I'm gonna take her advice and and reduce my consumption of /vt/.
This whole "drama" just taught me that this is the most mentally ill place on the internet, with a terrible effect on people's wellbeing.

>>28415491
You should kill yourself before that newfag.

>>28415644
No it doesn't. Case in point, HolostarsJP

>>28415652
I tried I was on vacation for a few days and didn't check here once. But I saw some posts on twitter about Ame owning the haters and all of /vt so I had to come see what was up and then my heart sank.

>>28415652
The best way to enjoy vtubers, or any media for that matter, is to just watch on your own and not partake in any part of the fandom. The fan vs enjoyer meme is pretty much 100% accurate

>>28415769
You don't get it. People in JP don't want collabs they are happy the way it is. Have you seen the criticism of Hololive in the west? Alot of westerners want male female collabs and love shipping and getting cucked. And it seems like they have a lot of fun over in Niji talking about sex and cocks and balls. It's gonna happen here in hololiveEN the girls in JP will see how fun it is and they can do it too and they will.

>>28413679
Ame told a schizo to fuck off.
Schizo has a mental breakdown shitting up the board for an entire day
Mods nowhere to be seen
Pic related, quite possibly the exact same guy

>>28413230

>>28415521
Numberfags have always been cancer.
>hey this thing was great and now it's trash, but lots of retards watch it! Isn't my tvbrain take amazing?

Wait, why is it bad to collab with males? Seems dumb that people are freaking out over it, like that is some Taliban level control.

>>28414052
Mio needs a good fucking. I don't care who does it, just so long as they do a good job.

>>28415969
>its gonna happen here in holoen
>why?
>SHUT THE FUCK UP FAGGOT NIJISANJI DID IT SO WILL HOLOLIVE REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
riveting
rangebanning every nijinig when?

>>28416098
Two reasons.
1. People actually develop feelings for the streamer and seeing them interact with men literally breaks their poor hearts
2. People enjoy them like cute girls doing cute things anime. Like watching K-On or Love Live or Yuru Yuri, shit like that. It's an anime replacement, and adding men to the equation ruins the anime feel and makes it feel more like regular ass streamers

>>28413230
>HololiveEN possibly holo as a whole is done
Fucking seaniggers

>>28416098
Collabs = sex

>>28415779
You can do it. Even just replacing the time spent here with watching more vtuber content is an improvement.
>>28415943
completely based

>>28416278
>1. People actually develop feelings for the streamer and seeing them interact with men literally breaks their poor hearts

But...Do they not realize they will never ever be able to fuck them and that their Oshi will never know they exist?

I never seen Ame as GFE material. There were warning bells for a long time too bruh. Like how she treated some guys during supa's. GFE don't do that shit.

My condolences tho.

Being a Niji EN fan the only thing I can't stand with male collabs is some of their faggot talk. Maybe them holo EN guys won't be on that level if you decide to still watch your Ame be defiled by male voices.

>>28416437
Of course we do. We just don't want the illusion broken. You don't see a magician on stage and he just shows you how the tricks are done what would be the point.

>>28416437
Yes.
It's part of kayfabe. Give and take of both side.

>>28416098
hololive is majority female only with the occasional male collab, which for the most part is fine
the fear is that holoen will become more like nijien and damage the hololive feel
this fear is compounded by not trusting terrible en management to not do something stupid, omega returning with his delusions, them trying to hide the holostars branding and an outcry of normies who seemingly would have no problem with a content direction shift
ofcourse everyone is blaming unicorns and shitposters are using this as an opportunity to doompost about everything

>>28416098
Get the fuck out of this board

>>28416787
Exactly it's the inept management I'm concerned about. They just want money so they're gonna turn the streams into an audio orgy

>>28414224
The last part is actually based

>>28416437
Anon we have movies about this for a reason.

>>28417315
Perfect Blue?

>>28415491
She fucked atleast one guy on this board that's disgusting

>>28413553
>>28415319
Just vanish insect.

>>28417422
edgy

>>28413455
>nigga
You can say nigger on 4chan.

>>28414235
>Niji EN """oldfags"""
part of the problem
the branch itself was the mistake

>>28417517
Apparently not anymore
t. got banned for calling OP a seanigger

Ughhh bros what are we gonna do the gravity is hitting more and more every second

>>28414117
>our time has passed...

>>28416149
Ugh, okay, I'll do it. If it falls to me to sex all the hags I will. Post em here to add them to the list.
So far we got:
Mio

>>28418404
Is Korone a hag? I would love to sex her

>>28417422
tourist confirmed

>>28416787
I don't trust EN management
I don't trust women

>>28418593
Hags need lovin too anon.

>>28416437
Holy fuck, this same newfag question is posted all the time. Is it your first time on /vt/ or what?

>>28413230
>The words are coming out weird
>Where are you now,
>When
>I
>Need
>You...

After watching Noels asmr streams I've decided that Hololive is no different than vshoujo and dropped them across the board.
Those streams are hot though.

>>28413230
>Where are you going? Got a 2view you gonna try to enjoy while you can?
I had an oshi but she graduated already

>>28418949
Her RM ones or her actual ones? They still erotic even for EOP?

>>28416098
Are you perhaps a faggot?

>>28416098
I dont watch hololive to watch men
I watch it to see cute girls being cute

>>28414235
>NijiEN oldfag
lol
lmao

It's already started. Look how excited everyone is for "THE BOYS"

>>28416098
It changes the whole dynamic from a cute girls doing cute things show to basically The Real World or Big Brother

>>28415652
>This whole "drama" just taught me that this is the most mentally ill place on the internet, with a terrible effect on people's wellbeing.
no you fag
this place is NOTHING compared with twitter and discord

>>28413230
I always passively watched has a couple of ASMR girls who struggle to get views outside asmr, might give them a few supas for their work ethics
Other than that I game/manga/webnovel backlog i might start working with

>>28420753
Idk I'm on both of those doesn't seem as bad. They're excited for it. I just can't stand the positive circle jerk those places are. I like being able to discuss streams without having to worry about upsetting people because you didn't like a stream or something.

>>28418949
Yeah, she had to keep up with the asmr meta and it kind of killed the ASMR half and went full ero.
Still was a good time watching it, but also a bit hollow

>>28413230
My small corpo bans male collabs so I'm fine

>>28413855
Nope and Ame attacked the fans telling them to deal with it in regard to future collabs
RIP HOLOEN YOU WON'T BE MISSED

>>28421423
What corpo anon? Seems like something I would be interested in.

>>28413663
*HoloEN

>indies
>small corpos
More of the same shit. Even if they ban male collabs the things they'll share are even worse than that.

>>28421612
I know. This whole thing is gonna poison western vtubing as hole. No more cute girls doing cute things. It's gonna sex and drama from here on out.

>>28415652
>>28421045
twitter and discord have trannies talking about pinworms coming out of infected axewounds. It's a far cry from waw waw ame

She puts on another karaoke and you fags will renew membership again.

>>28413230
>>28416278
>>28416593
>>28418677
>>28419127
>>28421790

Much grass needs touching.

>>28416098
How much money have you given these girls?

>>28422238
How about you go back to twitter

>>28421854
I have never seen that once and I follow a ton of trans people on twitter.
Once again the problem is just I can't be critical of this shit. I'm not stoked on the males. Not because I think I have chance with the girls and they should be virgins that's retarded. I just think it will change the vibe too much and I don't want that.

>>28422327
And miss all the glorious meltdowns? No, I don't think I will.

>>28413230
Man who fucking cares. I just won’t watch the homo and collab streams. For me Hololive is entertainment. I’ll tune in to chuubas I enjoy then I go “touch grass”.

>>28421986
This time is way different. It's really not even what Ame said. I thought it was kinda funny honestly. But you know this is gonna change everything. As a million people said imagine if in season 2 of K On they introduced male characters to join their band? That would suck ass. The show no longer is about cute girls doing cute things, there's now "will they won't they" sitcom shit. There will be drama, hookups broken hearts, etc etc. I don't want that. Vtubers is light fun entertainment so I can forget my miserable life for a little bit each day.

>>28422625
The difference is that there are already 4 other fucking generations of males in the same company.

>>28422592
Lmao, your such a fucking normalfag you googled touch grace and grabbed a knowyourmeme picture

Embarrassing, you are 10x more embarrassing than any of the people you will ever respond to on here phonefag

>>28422238
>>28422592
>>28422762
pottery

>>28422683
Management keeps an extremely tight leash on that. You trust western management to do the same? You think western fans appreciate cute girls doing cute things? These troglodytes just want the same dumb relationship drama you see on CBS

>>28423005
>You trust western management to do the same?
Yes.
>management starts forcing mixed collabs because niji does it
>...despite seeing how much less popular those are than their solo streams or same-gender collabs
>...and the backlash when a certain faggot showed up unannounced during an ASMR stream
>viewership tanks
>reputation drops like crazy
>o fug :DDDDDD
>NOTICE OF TERMINATION OF HOLOLIVE EN
Yeah I'm sure that would go well, all the voices in your head who can see the future told you so after all.

>LE FINAL YAB
Do doomniggers ever get tired of posting this every month?

>>28423143
NijjiEN would be irrelevant if it weren't for the males. I'm sure Holo wants to get that money too. Most western people don't appreciate cgdct anime. They're mostly normalfags that can relate to people in relationships and shit

>>28423554
Listen dramafags needed something to latch onto after the Tempus announcement so here we are. And no, you should know these people live to doompost

>>28423709
NijiEN became relevant because of its males thanks to a certain Asian country, which coincidentally hates Hololive to death. I'm sure everything will go well!
And yeah, westerners hating cute girls is the reason why not a single shark child on youtube has 4 million subscribers, and why no female EN vtubers are popular at all. Good on Cover for finally inventing male vtubers to cater to them.

>>28423842
There's plenty of Chinese Holo fans. They just use VPNs. I wish I had your optimism anon

>>28414235
>Niji EN oldfags
Read again what you just wrote.

>>28422400
nta, but trans women are mentally ill men that cut their dicks off, only to get infections as they keep the wound open for perverse titillation. It's unreasonable to compare that to fans of streamers being sad about being replaced.

You can try killing yourselves you pathetic unicorn faggots.

>>28423005
western management is literally just japanese people who happen to manage the EN talents. fuckers acting like the en managers are a bunch of woke white people working from Covers secret California offices when they're the same exact kind of people managing al the other gens

>>28421612
>>28421790
im going to vtube as a cute anime loli as a male and nobody can stop me

>>28425282
Jenma is blonde. She's not Japanese. Omega is gender fluid no way they are Japanese.

>>28413230
Id recommend project kawaii for those who hate the idea of make colabs but you holo refugees are annoying as fuck and dont deserve the true idol corp

>>28424662
I only knew one trans girl that got bottom surgery. Most likely having the dicks, I do too. Gives me something to grab on to.

>>28425609
If you can pull it off you have my support. Just no collabs with males

>>28415969
>and getting cucked
You're a random name in chat. You are not in a relationship with the anime girl.

>>28425881
Are you worried they will be poisoned from the this new cancer that is about to spread?

>>28426301
Actually i am, the corp doesn't seem receptive yet and is small enough that western twitter fags dont bombard their posts with "male auditions when". Also their build on gfe so males would definitely fuck that up. That being said this cancer is spreading and if it reaches their this industry will be dead to me nd ill move on

>>28426164
im gonna be like sykkuno but as a loli, people like my voice so it works

>>28426293
I know I'm not. But the actual cuckolding fetish in the US is huuuuge. You know how many people in dating apps are just looking for guys to fuck them while their husbands watch? A fucking ton.
So keep that in mind. If you are into that sort of thing it makes sense you would want to watch male female collabs then right? Pretty simple

>>28425282
>loserbait
>japanese
kek he wished

>>28413455
Yes. Where do you think you are?

>>28426819
Dont bother those types of dudes are just delusional cucks, no one should enjoy watching the girl they like or love whether irl or on stream interacting and flirting with other dudes. No different then having a crush on a chick in your class whos way out of your league, but still getting mad shes talking to guys

>>28427039
Thank you. I get the second part is a normal part of life and something I've dealt with a lot but I come to chuubas to forget about that. To forget about my autism with women. It's a way to appreciate women being women while being autistic it's sweet and sad at the same time but I enjoy it.

>>28426967
Omega is sexy porcelain femboy, just the type weeb girls love. Wouldn't be surprised if he tapped a couple of em already, but I don't care about that as long as I don't see it.

>>28417401
Nope, thats the other /here/tuber, the one at /pyon/

>>28427304
Why do chicks seem to like the femboy alien types now?

>>28414561
>In a few months if you have a problem with the homos hitting on any of the girls you're going to get swarmed by a mob of fujoshits telling you to touch grass incel

to be fair, and I know the word has lost all meaning and no one cares for nuance here, it's not "actual fujos" who are the most vocal about wanting male-female interactions.
Actual fujos just want to see the boys being cute/sexy with EACH OTHER, not with girls (i.e. think the female equivalent of yurifags), and at best they just tolerate female interaction if it doesn't get in the way of that, at worst they are actively hostile to female interaction because (again, just like male yurifags) having the boys flirt with the girls destroys their fantasy that they're actually all just gay for each other.

There's also another type of female fan, "yumejoshi", literally "dream girl", because they dream of being together with their man (again, think like the female equivalent of a parasocial gachikoi or unicorns etc.). They want their personal BFE, those are the people for whom all the spicy roleplay ASMR is for, etc. Again, you can imagine that they also don't care for female talent interacting with the boys, because it goes against their fantasy that the streamer is their personal boyfriend when they would see him actually "flirting" (i.e. interacting) with another girl on stream that is not them.

The people who are actually doing the "woooo yaas kween, we love male-female interactions and want more of it, touch grass incel chud!!" are not really "fujos" or anything in the classical definition (actual fujos are actually even more your "allies" in this fight, because they also respect the separation of genders and understand idol culture, etc.). If you bare to stomach looking at the twitter profiles of a few of those people who are the most vocal, you find that most of them actually have very little or just a superficial involvement with vtubers, are mostly just in it because it is the latest popular trend, and don't understand anything about the culture surrounding it (or what little they understand gets miscronstrued as "muh toxic idol culture) and mostly just posture to virtue-signal because they think this is another social justice battlefield where they can score some easy goodboi points. Some of them are dangerhair females, but I found that most of them are actually men. A special type of cucked male who thinks he's even doing the talents "a favor" (again, goodboi points) by "fighting for her freedom" or sumshit like that

>>28413230
>Homostars exists
lol whatever
>HomoEN exists
lol hololive is done for

>>28427372
It's been happening for a long while. Im 34 and my childhood friend looked like an emo femboi, and he got mad pussy. Now he looks like keanu reeves (still gets mad pussy).
Even in history you have tales of fembois and women lusting for them (alonside gigachads of course).

My HoloEn favorites were already too autistic to talk to men beyond a chatbox.

>>28424662
And unicorns are mentally ill delusional manchildren that dedicate their emotional wellbeing to someone who they will never know, and need to be coddled every second of every day, crumbling at the very first sign of even light joking bants.
The difference between them and a stalker is that the stalker can afford the travel.

>>28427397
Well said anon. That's pretty much what I fear. I consider social justice a pretty important thing but it's become such a bourgeoise liberal perversion in the west. Forcing male female collabs isn't progressive by any means. Even in the liberal lense why try to make men dominate a field women excel at already.
Anyway yeah your right about the fujos honestly it seems like there's less and less of them these days as anime and shit has gotten more mainstream

>>28427372
I don't know but I've been hitting the gym and don't eat for 2 days a week. The days of the funny fat man are dead and I would like to touch a boob once more before I off myself.

Wait, don't Ollie and Bae collab with Roberu all the time? Why is this news?

>>28427039
Is the usual response to GFE returning it with abusive bf experience?

>>28427799
Lmao go back

>>28427397
yeah feminist allies and shippers are the ones who'd like t force mixed content.
I do like mixed content (indies, nijiEN) but also femaleonlies (holo, phase). Niches should remain separated and varied so as to offer more entertainment flavors.

Some examples of what you said that themselves stated to be x or y that come to mind are koopa (said she's a yume, doesnt like fujo) or Eira, Akiagi Margo (fujos). A significant amount also likes two groups (fujo+yume or fujo+yuri generally)

>>28427968
Nigga you're the one offended by the existence of penises, sounds more like your club.

>>28427876
Yeah ive been going to the gym a few years now but it hasn't helped in that department, could be because im a cold piece of shit but muscles aren't everything, get some personality too

>>28427958
Depends on the girl, my current oshi is way too cute and cuddly that i could never do that to her, i only return love back

>>28427475
You'd think EN would be the same as JP, right? That's why I wasn't worried, but then Omega came back. If he has influence on the direction this takes then that's a problem. He's always dropped hints that he wants to push for "integration".

>>28425721
So one out of the five managers might be blonde and that means they're a woke menace that wants to turn the EN girls into cock hungry sluts by forcing collabs with men?

And Omega doesn't count, they aren't gender fluid they're a twitter account operated by who knows how many people.

Even then that's all of two of the what, five known EN managers? The rest of which are absolutely just boring japanese office workers?

>>28427876
muscles and a fit body can't fix an ugly face, unfortunately

>>28428442
You're scared of a barely active twitter profile. How the fuck do you think this works, they keep omega in cryostasis and bring them out to make big decisions and tweet about it? Whoever is behind Omega isn't "back", they've always been there, they just haven't been tweeting from that stupid account.

>>28428073
Does alcohol count as personality

>>28428711
Gura confirmed this a few weeks ago when she was talking about managers.

Nothing even fucking happened though?

Start doomposting when all of them are oshi's bfs and got hired through nepotism

>>28414224
That last part was necessary, some tough love reminding them that they will more than likely never be romantically involved with them

>>28428996
Of course they won't. But you can't say that. Everyone knows it's an illusion don't wake us from the dream Ame

>>28416278
>CGDCT watchers
>insufferable incel schizophrenics who expect the entire hobby to conform to their parasite culture despite them being newcomers

>holobronies
>insufferable incel schizophrenics who expect the entire hobby to conform to their parasite culture despite them being newcomers

Checks out, yes.

>>28427929
Because the people making a big deal out of this don't watch vtubers at all.

>>28416098
Dumb nigger. I want to watch cute girls doing cute things not cute girls doing cute things with a man. If I want to watch the latter. I'd go to pornhub

>>28427929
Four times is not all the times anon, hyperbole much?

>>28429540
Everyone like Roberu. He knows the rules and won't break em. Also no one really gives a fuck about Ollie.

>>28416098
Because the people of this board and 4chan as a whole are basically shitposters and like to stir drama for their own amusement.

>>28413230
Because of my particular case I'll keep doing my JP reps (studied before for a few years). JP is walled and segregated and after seeing the EN fail they won't allow it.
I recently found Phase Connect and some of the girls are similar vines and quality as Hololive, check their general for recommendations.

>>28415494
I have quite literally laughed myself out. As in, I am physically tired from laughing at holobronies nonstop over the last week.

>>28413230
Lulu, Rushia, and Coco are all back.

i'm fine.

>>28431565
A nobody, a CIA agent, and a whore are working for vBrothel now...how awesome

>>28432235
>ruru
>nobody

>>28413230
This >>28413372 and this >>28413455 but consider how addicted you are to cheap laughs and maybe fake attention. It isn't even that there is more to life. It's that you were distracting yourself and now you don't know what to do if the endless stream of distractions are threatened.

Get well soon.

>>28433052
Well reddit spacing kys, I have nothing going on in my life. They are all I have. Yes it's pathetic, yes your life is better than mine, you want a fucking trophy? I'm gonna die alone and poor I just want to watch some chuubas till then.

>>28432235
>A nobody
holy shit how new

>>28421581
>HoloEN's numbers have all been inclining in the last 3 months

>>28433910
It's not the numbers we worry about it's the content. You know the most popular music sucks, the most popular movies suck, etc. I don't want them to become crap

>>28413230
I'm gonna watch the landscape reform and see how things turn out. Destruction begets creation, after all.

>>28435979
True...what are you hoping comes out of it. I can't really think of anything good.

>>28433999
Like how the content of the JP streams radically shifted because of Stars?

>>28435979
Nothing actually good has come out so far ever since EN became a thing.

>>28431030
walled and segregated... except for all those collabs with Stars. Like a hermetically sealed laboratory with a screen door.

>>28436347
Once again the stars are out in a bubble this isn't happening here. All the EN talents have acknowledged these new guys whether on Twitter or video. We know Omega basically hates us and wants to do forced male female collabs too.

>Some hololive members collab with Holostars
>Including Fubuki, who is one of the elder statesmen of Hololive and one of the most popular there
>Hakos even does collabs with Roberu on a regular basis, the last one being last month
>Ame says that she could collab with the new Holostars branch
>This is apparently enough for HoloEN as a whole to collapse in on itself

>>28436455
what was happening here again? oh right... nothing. because they haven't even revealed their models let alone actually debuted let alone actually streamed let alone actually collabed with anyone...

>>28436723
Thats what people said when the niji males were announced. Look at them now.

"Cute girls doing cute things" is apparently too difficult a concept for Western females to grasp, yet alone put into action. HoloEN is now following the same trajectory like NijiEN did - after growing by catering to actual fans of vtubing, which are mostly guys who are familiar with general weebery and idol culture they're just discarding us for the normalfaggot audience which has no such concepts.

In barely two years HoloEN has declined tremendously, and it's actually fascinating to see. Myth started out great and over time they became WORSE, not better, in every possible way. I think it's inevitable that they'll go the Niji route and do male collabs and such, and I'm already effectively checked out. I was never a tribalfaggot and I watched smaller corpos and indies and do watch them, so I'm just jumping ship at the first signs of penises and/or general e-thottery. And we've seen a great deal of e-thot bullshit, massive ego, entitlement, hate and contempt for the fanbase from Mori, Ina and now Ame. Anons, you need to realize that it's just not the same like it was at the beginning. They gave us what we wanted - idol culture in English - but we were just a stepping stone and they're discarding us in favor of being "general streamers" or whatever the fuck low effort no standard stuff is called. HoloEN is a rotten branch, rotten to the core, and it's dying the death of a thousand cuts.

Gura? Gura is being milked like a cash cow. She isn't streaming much and has streamed very little for ALMOST A YEAR because Cover has turned her into a hollow idol like Kizuna Ai. A brand. They keep dragging her on cons and shilling merch of her, and that's it. Gura is omnipresent yet de facto out of the picture. Cover's greed is very evident in this.

Mori is just a perpetual yab machine that has no connection to anything vtuber in any tangible sense. Lots has been said about her, no point repeating.

Ame grew a massive ego, cuntiness and holds her audience in contempt, just like Ina does.

With the male cancer in the picture, it's simply time to move on. Nothing can be done anymore. Myth's reputation is irreversibly damaged, and Cover is just a amoral company.

>>28437838
As much as I hate to say it, after 2 years in the hobby, you're right anon. I came to the realization that this space is changing, and apparently we aren't welcome anymore. Im ripping the bandage off now, and it does hurt to leave something i've cared about for a chunk of my life, but I dont want to sit here and watch a corporate corpse shill cheap merch shit at me while telling me to improve because I want what I care about to stay the same.

you faggots are so insufferable and sensative. i hope all the girls collab with the boys so the seething continues

Its funny when you take away the gosling thing that Ame is just Selen except not good at games or funny.

>>28438168
>i hope all the girls collab with the boys so the seething continues
The "seething" won't continue after that because we're all be gone, and so will a large chunk of the audience that just watches the girls but doesn't interact anywhere. It happened with NijiEN when the males came, it'll happen here. People will just check out. And your dumb self will only then realize that suddenly everything feels different and just isn't the same, and you'll fuck off in due time as well but as a coward who can't admit to himself that it was the males that ruined it. Because the addition of males completely changed the feel, culture and content of a branch, company and the chuubas themselves.

>>28437838
Based. Yeah I'm packing my things now cuz I know I'm gonna have to jump soon. I still have slivers of hope that girls like Kiara and Fauna will stay true and turn to shit. But most of my hopes in life have been slashed much like this one will be.

>>28437537
There are already males in hololive. EN girls have already collabed with them. The universe has yet to implode.

>>28438672
anon whens the last time you've been outside?

> IS THAT... M-MAAAALEEEESS?? >NOOOOO MALEEES BAAAADDD!!
> *SNIFF* FUUUCKKK I JUST WANTED TO WATCH MY CUTE SHORK WIFE AND THE OTHER CUTE GIRLS DOING CUTIE THINGS!!! NOT WATCH HER FLIRTING WITH OTHER MALEEEEEESSSSSS!!
> FUCKING LEDDITORSSS AND TWITTERINOS!!! RUINING MY HOBBIES ONCE AGAIN! GO BACK GO BACK GO BACK CHUDS!! STOP RUINING MY SAFE SPACE ON /VT/!!!

Less than an hour to go.
How's everyone handling it?
It's been real everyone no matter what happens atleast we had this, no males can take away the past few years we had.