/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>you guys have all skipped streams from your oshi
no.... never
Ok imagine this OP. You love frosted flakes and eat them every morning, but once a week some dude takes a shit in your frosted flakes while you are eating them.
Would you not be annoyed by this?

>>28370677
this is more like frosted flakes having an optional different flavor and you stopping eating all frosted flakes bc of a flavor

>>28370677
Once a week would certainly be annoying. But how about a guy shitting in your frosted flakes once, period?

>>28370677
>food analogy
but of course

>>28370323
Do you not understand the concept of integrity? Unless management has literally forced them, there should be no male collabs, period.

>>28370938
>integrity
Integrity of what exactly, Anon?

>>28370323
>This part I don't get.
It's never just once, and chat will continue to bring it up like the mongoloids they are even outside of the collab streams. Better to get out and not look back.

>>28371133
With Mumei it was just once.

>>28371075
Integrity - the quality of being honest and having strong moral principles

>>28370767
not really.
I want frosted flakes. I am autistic and demand that my frosted flakes remain the same way i like them.
Adding shit into my frosted flakes that I enjoy makes me upset.

>>28370677
I would just not eat that and wait until I got a bowl with no shit in it

>>28371181
What's deceitful about an entertainer participating in a collaboration with another entertainer? I see no deception.
What's immoral about an entertainer participating in a collaboration with another entertainer? I see no immorality.

>>28371303
I shit in you frosted flakes every day
you starve and I dick down you sister
you have lost as a male

I work trade. I hear nothing but dudes, see nothing but dudes, smell nothing but dudes all day 5-6 days a week. I want a form of entertainment without fucking dudes in it. Is it so much to ask?

>>28371396
Just watch the content without dudes in it. Easiest shit in the world.

>>28370323
Thank god I never cared much for Ame anyway

>>28370323
>Just close your eyes bro, just look away lmao
This is what cucks tell to themselves?

>>28370677
Unicuck logic.
>Waah someone shit in my frosty flakeys now i have to eat it instead of getting a new box of frosted flakes.
Or
>Waahhh someone shit in my frosted flakes now ill never buy any frosted flakes ever again even though someone shitting in my box has nothing to do with the rest of the boxes!
Just be honest. You don't like it bc you are afraid your pretend gf won't love you back. (She doesn't)

>>28370323
>Oshi
>Skip streams
Lmao

>>28370323
Playing games I don't like = taste difference
Doing things I hate the most = doesn't value/respect me, doesn't care about my pain

She knew this, not to mention Vtuber is job to please fans. Someone who doesn't value me doesn't worth my time, tourst OP.

>>28371379
They aren't "entertainers", you stupid fucking newfag. Don't participate in discussions when you have no knowledge about the subject.

>>28371590
holy reddit....
its an analogy you retard.

>>28370323
Every big collab, every big moment, is going to have the homos in them. Unless you only care about solo collabs, you won't be able to ignore them

>I'm going to stop watching this chuuba over some petty bullshit
Ok, bye, that's fine
>and spam the catalog with threads about how she's a whore
Literal 5th grader behavior.

>>28371181
Wow, ther is so much integrity in being forced by your fanbase

>>28371733
Yeah a fucking stupid one that doesn't work for either argument. If you don't wanna watch male collabs don't watch.

>>28371733
i mean it's a shit analogy. just eat something else, it's not like the flakes will suddenly taste bad the other days someone's not taking a crap on them.

>>28371733
Yeah a shit one

>>28371865
>>28371892
>>28371915
holy samefagging OP....

>>28370677
You could have said jizzed in the frosted flakes would be more appropriate, cuz that's whats gonna happen to your oshi

>>28370677
>food analogy
FUCKING KEK SOMEONE POST THE TEAMATE PICTURE

>>28370938
What the fuck does this have to do with integrity?

>>28371713
The relationship between a vtuber and a viewer is streamer -> viewer. They stream. You watch the stream. It never evolves past this, no matter what roleplays or sweet nothings you hear. The only one giving out extra expectations is you. You aren't dating any vtuber. A vtuber isn't in love with you. You will never date them. You will never marry them. You will never have sex with them. You will be sitting at your computer desk, watching their stream, typing in chat, typing on 4chan, talking with your friends about their content. That is as far as it will ever go. Once they're finished, they will graduate, and will cease to exist in your world. They are gone. They did what they set out to do, and then left, having fulfilled their ambition to entertain people with their streams.
You are deluding yourself to think anything to the contrary.

>>28370323
They’re idols, their job is to entertain my fantasy of being pure and perfect not hangout with rando anituber faggots lapping as vtubers

>>28371978
i'll be honest i didn't expect two people to post nearly at the same time i did. at any rate i'm just calling the analogy shit, i'm not saying anything about either stance.

>>28371713
>This guy unironically thinks EN are "muh pure idols"
Don't reproduce

I don't understand it myself personally. Don't care if they have bf or male friends or whatever, but the second it's mentioned on stream I can't watch them anymore. Like, I know I'm not gonna fuck the woman behind the png, so I don't get my own response myself

>>28370677
On the day I know the dude is gonna come and take a shit on my frosted flakes, I would have something different for breakfast instead. Not stop eating frosted flakes altogether.

>>28371999
But without the viewer the streamer is nothing. Think all the hundreds of 2 views that come and go in a day. It's like music bands. You don't want to piss off your fanbase and lose them. Of course there will be cult members that eat up any slop you shit out. But there will be fans that have come to expect things a certain way and if they change they will drop them. Then before you know it some huge streamer is nothing but a nostalgia act or just another part time 2 view.

>>28371892
>it's not like the flakes will suddenly taste bad the other days someone's not taking a crap on them
Would you eat cereal if you had the mental image of a turd floating in your milk whenever you made some?
If we're getting up the food analogies, seeing your oshi collab with a male is like biting into a huge chunk of gristle in your fried chicken or almost choking on a fishbone. Having a nasty experience with a meal is enough to turn people off from ever having it again.

>>28371999
A bunch of the girls are parasocial as well anon, this isn't a one way street

>>28372400
>Can only relate in terms of food.

>watch CGDCT
>suddenly guys become the focus
No thanks

>>28371999
But I groomed my oshi

>>28372400
>Would you eat cereal if you had the mental image of a turd floating in your milk whenever you made some?
that still sounds like a (You) problem anon. are you the kind of person that loses their appetite when someone says something gross during lunch? because that's certainly not the case for everyone. i'd only get grossed out if my delicious frosted flakes started /actually/ changing into something disgusting instead of me just imagining it.

>>28370323
They are 100% having discord or physical real sex in private.
No I will not take my meds because I don't need any. This is 100% fact.

>>28371713
>>28371662
>>28372034
>>28372378

Fucking delusional SEAniggers in this thread, probably all the samefag as well. Here's some advice, don't have feelings for someone you don't personally know, you're setting yourself up for failure. Any woman who is likable enough to be a popular streamer already has a boyfriend (see: Gura, Mori, Fauna, Mumei, formerly Watson, Moona)

Unironically go outside and touch some goddamn grass you delusional unicorns. There's literally nothing wrong with a female streamer livestreaming with a male streamer as long as the content does not suffer.

>>28373054
They'll call you a cuck, then cry when their hearts get broken by a 2d girl that doesn't even know their name. After she takes their money, that is.

>>28372810
>/actually/
Fuck off you literal redditor.

>>28373319
>no argument
/roru/ /rumao/ can't expect anything else from a food analogy retard

>>28373054
I'm not samefagging, I'm from the US and I'm not a unicorn but have to have your head in the sand to understand that unicorns prop up this industry. Who in their right fuckin mind would drop $500 superchats to a woman they've never met ? Unicorns keep these women afloat if you cut them out they will die. And I'll be bummed because I just like to watch them

>>28373054
Based, these retards have deluded themselves into the depths of a parasocial relationship

>>28374054
Uhm sweetie, you do know we're just being disgenious faggots who keep repeating the same "touch grass okay!" bullshit over and over again just to troll you right?

>>28370938
i think crying bc your oshi communicated with the other half of the population is just autistic. do better

>>28372378
I'm all for viewers leaving a streamer if they don't enjoy their content. What I'm suggesting is that the mere existence of a male branch, and a subtle-as-a-brick-wall hint that Ame isn't much of a collab person and generally keeps to herself, is enough to cause anyone to be so insecure to leave, is a little bit ridiculous.
People are acting like Amelia Watson answering questions about Tempus is like the Hololive 9/11 when it's simply not the case. They are completely over-reacting, making assumptions and in general acting jealous. It wreaks of insecurity, immaturity and honestly makes us "men who really fucking love vtubers" seem quite feminine at heart.
Like let's pretend for a second that the parasocial shit is real.
Women are not attracted to insecurity. Losing your shit at, not even the presence of, but the THOUGHT of a male POSSIBLY EVER being present in the same VIRTUAL SPACE as a woman, is the weakest shit I've ever heard of in my entire life. No woman would ever be attracted to anyone with this kind of mentality. Worse, women are actually turned off and disgusted by such behavior. It's disgusting to see a man be so emotionally fragile, so weak, that they turn to jealousy and outrage at the drop of a dime the way people do with these girls.
This is beta male behavior, what people are doing right now. Maybe even theta male.

>>28374054
If getting rid of delusional unicorns and toxic parasocial relationships will kill the VTuber "industry", then it never deserved to live in the first place, and VTubing as a whole was in a much better place pre-2020 before it exploded in popularity.

>>28370323
I avoid chuubas that are likely to yab a lot and male collabs invite yabs.

>>28370323
If they're entertainers then they exist to entertain me. VTubers who collab with men don't entertain me. Therefore, I drop them, because their mask has dropped and revealed that they're just a good for nothing whore looking to jump on the first cock available. Simple as. I do not exist for entertainers, they exist for me.

>>28370323
>So I'm not interested in any collabs with males
>And I'll drop any Vtuber that collabs with them
>This part I don't get
Are you fucking retarded?

>>28374950
All of this reads like what a woman thinks a man might sound like.

>>28370677
Sure, but at what point in this scenario did you find it appropriate to blame the Frosted Flakes?

>>28373054
>Gura
Would you happen to be referring to pic related?

>>28371200
So someone could force you to stop doing all of your favorite things by ruining them once? Nice.

>>28376721
>literally cant read
ok cuck I see its Californian hours

For anyone that does decide to collab with the guys I would want to ask why?
Who is the target audience for this when pretty much everyone just wants to watch CGDCT.
Niji has proven that not only is there virtually no fanbase overlap but that interaction causes friction between the two distinct fan bases.
When they stream they're doing it for an audience, they're free to do whatever on their own time.
Why would they want to make a stream that a large part of their audience will hate.

>>28370323
if they are few and far between yea they are skippable, but if they start invading regular streams with mentions and shit then it becomes unskippable.

So much cope in this thread about how guys being angry at a cheating whore is completely incomprehensible, because the people whining only see it from a woman's perspective.

>>28370677
Unicorn logic is thinking:
>That pack of frosted flakes is YOUR frosted flakes and not being shared with other people
>A man getting near your frosted flakes immediately wants to do something bad to it
>You'll be the one to eat the frosted flakes

>>28373054
Here's some advice for you, kill your whole family and then yourself. The world has had enough of you

>>28377326
The woman who you watch on a computer screen and have never met cannot "cheat" on you my dude.

>>28377623
Not really, a better comparison would be.
>There's a box of frosted flakes out on display
>Everyone knows that this is a display box meant to be kept pristine and is okay with mutually not being able to touch it
>Suddenly someone breaks that mutual understanding and defaces the box ruining it as a display box

>>28378175
Another shit analogy. The thing that makes any of these retarded frosted flake analogies the worst is that it implies there is only one complicit party in these scenarios. Any collab with a male is BOTH of the streamers agreeing. It would be the frosted flake box literally requesting that someone deface it. Streamers are not inanimate, they choose how they want to stream. Grow up

>>28379106
You're right that they have agency and it would be like the display box wanting to be defaced.
Why would it want to be defaced if it knows that will happen?
Similarly why would one of these girls want to collab if they know their audience largely doesn't want that.
As long as no one is trying to pry into their personal life and attack them for what they so on their own time, what is wrong with saying that you don't want to watch male collabs?

>>28379106
There's the other part of it, I don't want to associate with something that wants to be defaced. That's why people don't want to watch

>>28380057
There isn't anything wrong with saying you don't want to watch male collabs (I don't either). I'm however not entitled enough to believe that my wishes supersede the streamer's, and if they want to collab with men I will simply not watch that stream, just like I don't watch any collabs with female members I dislike. I also don't believe that any of the EN girl's audiences 'largely' care about collabs with men either way, but even if they did, the streamer's own wants always supersede the wants of their audience imo

>>28377623
Exactly. Stay the fuck away from my frosted flakes they are mine and I like them that way,

>>28370323
It's legit toxic behavior, trying to have some ownership over them in the parasocial relationship they've built up in their heads.

If this drives them all away then Hololive will be better for it.

>>28380978
>toxic
>parasocial
You're too easy to spot, tourist. Try blending in next time.

>>28380978
>consequences for people's actions
>THATS TOXIC
>>>/cgl/ stupid slut

>>28370677
>>28371200
>Ok imagine this OP. You are autistic

>>28380609
I partially agree but a good streamer would take the views of the audience into account.
if at best people are apathetic and at worst will cause issues for both streamers why bother?
They're free to interact all they want on their own time.
When they're streaming they're doing it for an audience. Add on that they are part of their company so it's their job.
If they don't like the culture then they should probably look at leaving rather than trying to dismantle it.
Not that I think any of them are planning on trying to do that with constant male collabs though.

>another ame timeloop
lao_yang.jpg

>>28370677
Some guy needs to put meds in your frosted flakes

>>28370323
I love my brain. Everytime I see a vtuber I like collabing with males, I instantly lose interest and never watch them again.
Its simple and it just works. Dont got explain shit.

>>28370323
One word: competition.
Boys have to live day in and out seeing girls flirt and date men who are more attractive than ourselves. Collabs in themselves aren't the problem. It's the "if they flirt I'll know for sure they're into someone I'm not".
I watch to forget the real world, not to be reminded of it. Simple. The moment they stop being a fantasy to daydream about that's the day I drop them. They're just doing their job and I'm just looking out for my entertainment.

>>28382870
If you're worried about hypothetical women liking guys other than you, that shows a profound insecurity on your part. You should actually take Ame's advice and use that energy for self improvement instead of seething about hypothetical men on a Mongolian basket weaving forum.

>>28370677
i love frosted flakes so much i would eat them with shit in them
in fact I would learn to like shit, at least as they occur on frosted flakes, I love frosted flakes so much
what now
is this the kind of response you were expecting

>>28376948
nta, but neither can you if you don't know what cuck actually means. go look it up. go on then.

>>28372695
basically this

>>28380978
Kill yourself

>>28380978
>trying to have some ownership over them
you are retarded - yes, they are slaves to their audience. If they decide to do something audience would not appreciate ie. watch paint dry for 3 hours with muted mic, people would not watch it. Is this "trying to have some ownership over them" if you don't want to watch it?

>>28381361
correct
if you arent autistic what the fuck are you doing on my fucking website talking about anime girls like they are a box of cereal
Kill yourself normie nigger

>>28382870
This may single handedly be THE MOST pathetic thing I’ve seen not just in this thread but on this board
Congrats anon

>>28370323
I don't understand why they would want to collab with males.
What content can be produced that couldn't be done otherwise?
Do they feel like they're missing out?

>>28383897
>watch paint dry for 3 hours with muted mic
If you wouldn't watch your oshi do this then you aren't a real fan

>>28383897
Don't like it? Don't watch it instead of demanding that she change and do everything YOU want.

>>28383026
People demand, and pay, for both safe spaces and fantasies all the time. Vox lost most of his income and views after the Reimu incident. The streamer that pretended to be disabled got roasted when he stood up on camera. People need fantasies and will react violently when those are threatened or move on to whomever fills those fantasies.
Stop admonishing me. It's MY time and MY money and if I want to use it on fantasies neither you nor the twitter woketards will stop me.

I only care if it's my oshi. I watch Fubuki and Matsuri sometimes and like both of them but I wouldn't oshi either of them.

>>28384057
I don't understand why they would want to collab with council.
What content can be produced that couldn't be done otherwise?
Do they feel like they're missing out?

>>28384178
?

>>28384057
Maybe just like… wanting to interact with new people and get to know them? Making friends like a normal human being?

>>28384073
don't like my opinion? Don't read it instead of demanding i have to change and do everything YOU want.

>>28384226
What does that have to do with streaming as a holomem?

>>28384226
I don't want to watch vapid normalfags, especially not if they're women.

>>28382870
You are a sad human being.

>>28384257
You're a fucking retard dude. You don't control her streams and she doesn't owe you anything. Sorry but the truth hurts.

>>28384226
If I wanted a normal human I'd go out and meet them. I want the fantasy what's so fucking hard to understand about that?you sell the fantasy I want? Here's akasupas and memberships.
You want to act like a real woman on stream? Good luck I'm taking my patronage elsewhere. Hope all those chads with GFs buy your merch.

>>28384110
Holy shit you are unironically comparing breaking your one-sided unicorn delusion with faking a disability. Take your meds and go the fuck to sleep. Maybe you should follow Ame's advice and spend your time and money on improving your life. Go to the gym, learn guitar, build something, maybe then you wont have to feel so inadequate.

Nobody owes you happiness, it's something you have to make for yourself.

>>28384358
why do you keep responding? By your own retarded logic you don't have the right to comment on what i say, because you don't control me and i don't owe you anything

>>28384398
Anon it sounds to me like the only women you’ve seen in the past three years has been your mother bringing you your Uber eats Big Macs

>>28384475
You are right: nobody owes me anything. And I don't owe anyone my time and money, if they want them they need to sell me a product: if I don't like it I don't buy it. Simple.

>>28370323
Look, take if from someone who tried to give males a chance before going back to holo
>why are males bad?
Male and female content turns into lazy and low effort, girl x girl content is fine because they can be cute together
>skip it
My oshi barely streams, if she start spending time with males im left with even less content
I used to “just skip it” when I watched niji, and I ended up only having a single stream a week at best that was not a male collab
>expectations
If I watch my oshi play a game and suddenly a male jumps into the call and derail the entire stream, then I will obviously blame the male for that
>trust your oshi
I don't think they fuck, they are coworkers
But if the quality entertainment bottoms out, the personality of my oshi turns against her own fans, she only does collabs because they are easy
Then I will move on, again, for the same reason as before

>>28384585
Even if that was the case for that anon, what relevance is that to what he said?
Every day there is hundreds of thousands of hours of content produced.
Everything is made for specific niche interests.
Even within hololive, there is more hours of content produced in a day than there is hours of a day.
What's so odd about creating content like the kind hololive has produced? There are million of views on all sorts of more niche, less instantly understandable things.

>>28384649
Okay, bye then. You're one person sperging out on a Taiwanese throat singing forum. Thousands of other people are content with just watching streamers play vidya without forming a parasocial relationship with them out of a need to escape from your insecurity.

>>28384585
You all keep attacking me like I give a shit about your judgment of my person. OP asked why we don't like collabs and I answered truthfully. I'm buying a fantasy from Hololive and will move on the moment I don't like what they offer.
They aren't my friends nor my family. They're Cover employees, hired to entertain the masses. If I'm not entertained I have zero obligations to them.

>>28370677
Ameriburgers love eating their masters shit

>>28384552
Man is this why you feel so attacked when she says to improve yourself? Does any helpful advice that points out how retarded you are trigger you so badly? Enough with your 0 IQ false equivalency. You are not performing or making a career out of this and I am not telling you how to run your business so I can give you money. You don't go into a restaurant and demand that everything on the menu be changed to only YOUR specific tastes. Absolutely retarded that I had to explain this.

>>28384343
sorry, not everyone gets to be born woman or handsome

>>28370677
>Would you not be annoyed by this?
I would pour another bowl and continue eating frosted flakes

Why would someone shitting in my bowl mean I no longer eat frosted flakes?

>>28384766
>nijifag
there's your problem, the girl streamers were low effort Holorejects from the start. Having males involved just gave them someone to leech off

>>28384170
Why does no one on here complain about Fubuki's cross-collabs?

>>28384835
>I'm buying a fantasy
And we're telling you to stop with this escapist bullshit and go live your life.

>>28385078
>we
go back

>>283 84835
>Trying this hard to pretend you see it as a pure business transaction when it's obvious you had para social feelings for someone you watched on a screen and donated to for no reason

>>28385078
>we
Nice try, butthurt tourist.

>>28385110
>>28385193
newfags trying too hard to fit in

this fag
>>28384835
addressed a collective. As part of said collective, it is grammatically apropriat to respond in firt person plural.

>>28384835
Then just like… move on
You didn’t need to let it devolve into a shit flinging contest, just say “because that’s not the content I want to watch”, close out the thread and move on

>>28385078
>we
i didn't vote for you

>>28385078
>we

>>28385159
> doesn't know what parasocial means.
You're parasocial if you think I have to "support them because I like them, as people". I see content I like, I support. Simple. Be it a crunchyroll subscription, a steam game, a magazine subscription. I pay to see more of what I want. Content changes and is no longer to my liking? I stop supporting. What's so hard to understand about that?

>>28371811
This, but come on man. The wound is fresh. Sometimes you feel like yelling at clouds.

>>28384787
too smart for these fags

>>28384950
nigger its a metaphor....
you are basically saying you will change oshis

I'm just going to watch orange woman instead. At least she wants to be an idol.

>>28384226
If they really want that they can do it off stream in private.
There is no reason they have to stream together.
Even less reason if none or an extremely small part of their audience want to see it.

>>28385983
>Even less reason if none or an extremely small part of their audience want to see it.
EN women are fine with that rule in almost every other circumstance

>>28385983
By that same logic anon, why should they stream with other females?
What’s so different about a female collab and a male collab?

>>28386117
That's the point of hololive anon. Why do people watch more than one member?

>>28386117
Cute girls doing cute things is an entire genre, you would know this if you were more than a tourist

>>28386195
I genuinely don’t know what you’re trying to say here
Do you mean that collabs are the reason people watch hololive? Because if so then I’ll ask again, what’s so different between a male collab and a female collab

>>28386117
Because that's what their audience wants to see.
CGDCT is the primary draw for people watching female vtubers.
Males completely change the dynamic of the stream.
Just go watch pretty much any of the Niji streams and you'll see a huge difference.
There's a reason why Holo has become and stayed the most popular.
It would be idiotic to change and become more like less popular groups.

>>28386320
I'll explain it in a different way.
Why do people watch other members that aren't their favourite? How did they become introduced to that member to begin with?
How do people who know Ame for example, also know Lamy?
The perception of past streams affect the perception of current streams which affect the perception of future streams.
Minecraft is a great example of this.

>>28385655
In this metaphor, changing oshis would mean I now eat Lucky Charms instead of Frosted Flakes

>>28370323
I literally don't get it, so what if she collabs with males? What if they laugh and have a good time? What's the big deal??

I've never watched any of her streams btw.

>>28386940
Lucky Charms is The Wire on HBOs live service

So Mori is allowed to go on Trash Taste and shit but Ame (the one who banned Connor's name in her chat) can't join a group collab that has a male coworker in it?

>>28387125
>Ame now in the same tier as Mori

Ohnonononono

>>28386940
Ok every time you watch a stream once a week a dude shits on your oshis face is that a better metaphor for you?

>>28387262
Why is my oshi letting someone shit on her face, and why isn't it me

>>28387582
You're not in Yagoo's special club

>>28370323
The addition of males permanently changes the content, feel and culture of a company and the chuuba herself.

>>28387582
You didnt get the nepotism hire

>>28386429
haha incel I only watch vtubers for entertainment
>collab happens frequently on perceived demand and her average drops
what? oh I just so happen to not be entertained anymore after those frequent collabs, I didn't lie.

>>28386117
Get this anon, men and women are different and it affects how they interact with one another.

>>28387125
I have never forgiven Mori for that shit, if Ame wants to join her as a persona non grata here she can continue down her current path

>>28387977
It's funny because Niji EN is pretty much the case study for why having interaction between genders is a bad idea.
The male and female members fan bases are completely separate.
Chat overlap is very low and likely would be even lower if the male's fans didn't got to the female streams just to see the guys
Selling themselves as an integrated group has done very little for building a homogeneous fan box and that separation has caused some high profile incidents between male and female members.
Fans of both the females and males have even expressed that they wished they would interact with opposite genders as little as possible.
So if even a branch based on max unity between genders failed, Hololive would do well to stay far away.

>>28370323
>Surely you guys have all skipped streams from your oshi that you weren't interested in before.
nope, the only ones that I missed were guerilla ones that I wasn't even awake for at the time and didn't know the idea for one was there
I've never deliberately skipped a single one of my oshi's streams

>>28370323
man teakeks are in full blown damage control mode, trying their hardest to at least limit your oshi's recline?

>>28389085
does knowing that this will change nothing really makes you this mad?

>>28389185
this is cope if I've ever ready any, and I've read a lot of posts laced with copium

>>28375841
All I can say is that you thinking "girl vtuber collabs with male vtuber = mask off whore that wants to have sex with them" really says a lot about you, and about the rest of the board who thinks likewise really

>>28389613
>this is cope
exactly. everything will stay the same. just like she said

>>28389085
Ame is the least watched EN member for a reason.

>>28389085
It's actually hilarious. So many people on the Discord seething and switching to Vshojo, where they have an actual GFE with Nazuna
Sorry Ame, you bitch. Should have pandered more. Gonna take my bucks to a girl who'll appreciate them

>>28370323

If you cant understand that dudes don't want to watch their oshi's flirting with faggy numales on stream you need to take medicine.

>>28390188
The problem is that most of /vt/ is socially stunted and thinks any interaction is flirting

>>28389832
Why would you want to watch dudes flirt with girls we've been watching for two fucking years?

>>28390310
Agreed, but obligatory
>we
Kys

>>28390246
Take your meds and go to sleep. You're becoming delusional. There is a reason they've always been split up. Any interaction at all, is an infraction. And these guys shovel money to get their names read on stream. And now some 2view retard is going to get regular collabs. You cannot be this stupid.

>>28390174
you are not trying to imply that rushia cared about her members right?

>>28370323
i've been watching since jp gen 3. if hololive starts acting like nijisanji, i'll just watch nijisanji rather than hololive's knockoff nijis.

>>28390188
>>28390310
Who the FUCK said they're going to flirt? Why are you so attached to the idea that they're going to do that? Why do you expect it? Do you *want* it to happen? Do you secretly have some kind of masochistic cuck fantasy?

>>28390519
cared about keeping her fans more than keeping her job at hololive

>>28390995
she failed at both tho

>>28391030
that's holocope

>>28390538
Nobody on this board knows what flirting actually is

>>28370323
Honestly from watching NijiEN I'd rather they not have male-female collabs either just because male-only and female-only collabs are a lot more fun and entertaining in my experience.

>>28390538
These guys probably knew about and tried out for Hololive because they were fans of the girls and wanted to interact with them.
The EN side of things has a completely different culture to JP and it's not very likely they found 4 qualified guys that actually want to be idols.
The chance for a Pakoraito among EN is extremely high compared to JP.

>>28391096
how does mafumafu's cum taste anon?

>>28370323
>Ame, the creator of goslings, tells her viewers to get a life and “improve themselves”
>Vox destroying his career going on to collab with a vshoujo slut and talk about sex after Reimugate
>Gura and all the EN girls remove “idol” from their profiles

Career suicide arc?

>>28391171
Maybe there's a reason the auditions have effectively been open for a year and a half

>>28391180
everything you know about rushia comes from the 2 weeks EOPs who never watched a single one of her streams outside boing boing clips fighting about GFE in vtubing.

>>28370323
Over and over again I laugh at the literal cucks who still give money to this bitch. Ame is an american woman, never trust americans, if you want loyalty go to Holojp

>>28391371
does she let you clean the dick after they fuck?

>>28387125
Mori is an idiot and openly hated idol culture until she wanted attention from a Suisei collab. She willingly went to Trash Tastes and loathes people that even think she’s an idol. She is a lost cause and nobody.

Ame actually did early GFE well and unintentionally was an idol, so yes, it’s more shocking.

>>28391424
hey dude, new nazuna boing boing clip is out. must watch for all EN fans!

>>28391208
>>Ame, the creator of goslings
hownew?

>>28391287
Pretty sure explicitly male auditions haven't been open for that long.
Things slip through anyway, the only reason Raito got caught was because of weaponized autism from fans.
Stars could very easily end up with someone with the background of Vox or worse considering how much farther Hololive reaches.

>>28372695
This so much. This is pretty much why I dropped most of the NijiEN girls.