/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>70,166: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>63,495: Shikinagi Akira (Nijisanji)
>62,906: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)
>62,839: Seraph Dazzlegarden (Nijisanji)
>59,719: Watarai Hibari (Nijisanji)
>51,618: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>46,502: Fura Kanato (Nijisanji)
>38,802: Pekora (Hololive)
>36,316: Salome (Nijisanji)
>35,377: Miko (Hololive)
>30,427: Toya (Nijisanji)
>29,589: Salome (Nijisanji)
>28,565: Subaru (Hololive)
>26,118: Subaru (Hololive)
>25,570: Aqua (Hololive)
>23,431: Choco (Hololive)
>20,216: Suisei (Hololive)
>18,266: Mio (Hololive)
>16,449: Luna (Hololive)
>16,262: Korone (Hololive)
>16,191: Tamaki (NoriPro)
>15,930: Kronii (Hololive)
>13,663: Gatchman (Indie)
>13,648: Kiara (Hololive)
>13,491: Koyori (Hololive)
>13,434: Chihiro (Nijisanji)
>13,103: Koyori (Hololive)
>12,183: Calli (Hololive)
>11,663: Chloe (Hololive)
>11,635: Mumei (Hololive)
>11,608: Fauna (Hololive)
>11,468: Fubuki (Hololive)
>11,364: Mayuzumi (Nijisanji)
>11,010: Botan (Hololive)
>10,580: Koyori (Hololive)
>10,116: Lui (Hololive)

>>28354742
>JULY 2022 GOLDS
1) Miko (Hololive) - 43,044 - HoloCure
2) Subaru (Hololive) - 66,433 - Birthday stream
3) AZKi (Hololive) - 74,504 - 3D birthday live
4) Tsukasa (Indie) - 41,447 - Streamer league mahjong
5) Mayuzumi (Nijisanji) - 57,985 - Meschers off-collab
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - Drinking talk w/Laplus
7) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - DQ11 casino w/Noel
8) Salome (Nijisanji) - 37,023 - Unpacking
9) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 164,013 - Koshien 2022 draft
10) Shion (Hololive) - 48,313 - 1 million subs celebration totsumachi
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 61,665 - Clubhouse 51 totsu
12) Shiina (Nijisanji) - 49,387 - Niji Koshien practice
13) Pekora (Hololive) - 70,402 - Uno collab w/Marine, Botan & Polka
14) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 54,165 - Nijisanji Koshien
15) Kurusu Natsume (Nijisanji) – 48,192 - 3D debut
16) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) – 70,166 - Nijisanji Koshien

>PER COMPANY
8x: Hololive
7x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie

>PER STREAMER
4x: Pekora
1x: AZKi, Mayuzumi, Miko, Nijisanji, Salome, Shiina, Shion, Subaru, Tsukasa, Ibrahim, Kurusu Natsume, Kuzuha

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
126x: Hololive
60x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
3x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
22x: Pekora
16x: Aqua, Salome
13x: Miko
13x: Kuzuha
9x: Subaru
6x: Hal
5x: Kanata, Marine
4x: Gura, Hololive, Mio, Suisei, Toya
3x: Chloe, Choco, Flare, Nijisanji, Okayu
2x: Ange, Fuwa, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Mori, Mysta, Polka, Towa
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, AZKi, Botan, Chronoir, Debi, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Laplus, Masaru, Mayuzumi, Mel, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Nene, Noel, Roboco, Rushia, Sango, Shiina, Shion, Sora, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta, Ibrahim, Kurusu Natsume

>Final /news/ roundup for 16-07-2022
>>28324785

Weekly VTuber top VOD rankings (one video per channel)
>>28169308

Recent Clip Numbers
>>28307240
>>28307303
>>28307569
>>28307622
>>28307988

Oi, what's with TWO fucking threads done and gone after I went to sleep?
(Anything important happen?)

>>28354979
True average of CCV, 20 or more streams, July 1 to July 14
>>28274354

Charts with the 30 days median of peak CCV
>>28274519

>>28354987
Amelia Watson telling her doomposting Unicorns to stop being faggots about homos as its just business

what do you even call that sudden drop near the end?

>>28355341
Abayo ame.

>>28355444
Stream ending?

>>28355444
SC reading? I don't know, didn't watch and won't check it or bots

um i am bit confused for the ID JP server merge, do they just build stuff on the entrance and connect them at later date or the server merged already but they just decorate the entrance later today?
also since it's relay, can migo get 40k for being the last one ?

>>28354627
Who's the artist?

>>28355613
>the server merged already but they just decorate the entrance later today?
This

>>28355663
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/99227058

>>28355756
Thank you.

>>28355380
>she only likes the tips comments

Thread dood
Wat nou?

/#/ is declining..

>>28355867
What is the problem, they paid for it.

>>28356278
Just like NijiCN

>Ironmouse and nyanners are streaming to funnel the debut
They really trying hard on this

>>28355867
of course anon, i also like money

>>28356278
hey man
unironically our schizos are out in the catalog spamming amelia/tempus threads

>>28356378
going to assume they'll all raid at the same time so 15-20k is guaranteed

>>28356486
Silvervale isn't doing so hot these days, huh.

>>28356614
was she ever?

I want to have an actual productive discussion about Tempus' numbers, specifically how much their of their numbers will translate from their past lives into their new form. Since, most likely, Cover will have taken people with experience, and it's been theorized at least one of them have 100k+ subs on youtube, will this substantially boost their initial growth? Have any previous holostars had noteworthy PLs?

>>28356378
Twitch viewers are too lazy to watch other streamers without being moved with raids

>>28355341
It's just business as in "I'll collab with them"? Or "Don't fucking worry about that shit".

>>28356486
Jesas.. really all out huh?
Is this the start of Vshojo box? Will kson apply the holostrat on Vshojo?

>>28356738
I'm pretty sure her exact words were: "maybe in a group collab?", phrased as a question.

>removing the "Holostars" logo from the official website's trailer

lmao they're really just going to be part of HoloEN aren't they

>>28356486
Ookami Mio also prepared the funnel for kson later

There seems to be a sudden influx of Vshoujo threads and baits in the catalog.

>>28356895
It's really bizarre as a decision. Everyone knows they're part of Holostars, it's obvious especially after the logo was there for a couple of days. What's the point of removing it part way through?

>>28356738
"im not opposed to group collabs maybe" was basically her answer on tempus collabs

>>28356895
How many times have they now revised it? Are they actually panicking?

>>28356895
They made an entire new channel for them so probably not

>>28356966
All me.

>>28356911
More like the opposite

>>28356486
Man what a weird primetime for Mike's debut. It's also barely outside the twitch primetime which would have been the best spot to stream stuff like this.

he's back
https://twitter.com/omegaalpha_en/status/1548472552334376966

Goddamit!
https://twitter.com/omegaalpha_en/status/1548472803887878144?t=MEuE4UVDEi_zOWAZlSGogA&s=19

>>28357414
please no

>>28357250
they only debut on twitch? no debut 1.0 on YT?

>>28357414
>>28357445
fuck

>>28356486
The power of vshojo, BF yabai kill em hard. All hail korean vtuber! The king of twitch vtuber!!

>>28357414
>>28357445
Fucking SHITTY ASS MF. No one asked for this.

>>28357414
WHY?! WHY HAVEN'T THEY FIRED HIM?! HE'S NEVER DONE ANYTHING WORTHWHILE AND CAUSED SO MANY PROBLEMS!

Honestly they should have debuted a mixed gen first if they're so adamant of scrubbing off the Holostars label on these losers while trying to integrate them in the Hololive EN brand

>>28357414
That's it. TEMPUS is dead on arrival.

>>28357414
AHAHAH oh fuck.

>>28357414
>>28357445
NOOOOOOOO

>>28357718
Yea. I was hoping they fired his fucking ass, but clearly too much to ask.

Okay, NOW HOLOEN IS DONE. Prepare yourselves, because however long Omegay was gone was the good times. Shit will never be better than they were before Omegay came back, thinks can only get worse now.

>>28357414
>>28357445
wtf is this shit, keep him away from holoen...stars can have him

GOD FUCKING DAMN IT

>>28357414
any faith i had in homoEN being anything good just evaporated in a split second

FFXIV MALE COLLAB IKZ!!!

>>28357414
>>28357445
holobros status?

>listened to redditors and twitterniggers

Man, not even the biggest schizos from here could come up with everything that is happening this week

>>28357650
>mixed gen
We know Cover is ass backwards stupid company but they are not complete retards.And imagine being the girls who get thrown into that shitshow.

lorechads we won

Please god tell me that there isn't a positive reception to this outside /here/. Please fucking tell me /vt/ is the only place that has the good sense not to like this piece of shit

>>28357414
Welcome back, King!

>>28357414
>sana graduates
>the manipulator is active once more
it was better back then

>>28357414
>>28357445

>>28356682
i dont think anyone knows anything about holostars. no point theorizing anything with so little info.

>>28358145
The rrat about how he will use Sana's graduation is true lmfao.
>Space overwatcher leaves
this guy is a cringe lord.
>faggot comes out to play

>>28358128
roru
check the answers https://twitter.com/omegaalpha_en/status/1548472803887878144

>>28358021
If they weren't retards they wouldn't have hired omegay or made a homoEN branch. What I said was compromise

>>28357414
>>28357445
>omega is back and will ruin both hololive and holostars
FUCK

>>28358064
>Missing for months
>came back just for tempus
>instead of promoting them, overshadowed it with his own manga
Um.. based?

>>28358005
Yabs will continue until morale improves. Ame spergin will depress her numbers even further, dramatubers will now make incel clickbait on the affair. AND THERE WILL BE BLOOD

NijiEN and HoloEN getting fucked in the same day, amazing

>omegay
great, so this branch is fucking doomed

>>28358128
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/w0v63l/omega_returns/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/w0v6pe/well_well_well_look_who_came_back/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/w0v9og/omega_is_back_i_never_stopped_believing/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/w0vbjc/this_is_a_surprise_for_sure_but_a_welcome_one_at/

>>28358128
Eh... sorry to be the bearer of bad news but it's looking mostly positive outside of /here/

What the fuck went wrong with the EN branch. Why couldn't the Cover mouthpiece be another cute OL instead of this retarted vtwitter LARPing as a God.

>>28358388
What did NijiEN do?

Oh man, if people in this thread were joking about how Ame is debuffing herself hard. I can't imagine how bad it gets when she can collab with the guys lol.

>>28357445
>>28357414
fucking who's

>>28358479
Luxiem got their own puchisanji instead of a puchisanjiEN like ID and JP had/have

>>28357414
>Omega trained the HomoBros in a time chamber for 6 months and now we are about to see the true essence of Male vtubing success
I WANT TO BELIEVE

>>28358474
Cover and Japan have a weird distorted idea of what could sell outside their borders. They tried to make EN "cool" with lore, used FGO artists and famous ones (barely any mid to low tier artists in EN) and tries so hard to steer it in a direction using omegay's chuuni shit

>>28358005
Its only going to get crazier in 24 hours

>>28358005
Just wait until Mike yabs in her debut

>>28358608
Ahahahhaha. I guess Noctyx didn't do as well as they expected

>>28358952
>Not Rushia debut
>She starts talking
>3 mins into the stream
>"Rushia wa... eh... chotto matte, NO NO, NAZUNA WA, NAZUNA WA"
That would be fucking incredible

>>28358952
I'm just waiting for Kson to go full menhera at this point. It'll be glorious.

ENsharts can't catch a break kek, luckily my beloved HoloJP is save.

>>28359275
I would be disgusted.

>>28358971
its more like en management are retards who have 0 optics and burn PR all the time lately. Even JP with 100 vtubers does a much better job than they have been doing

>Check out the vshojo raft collab surely with this many beggars they must be entertaining

Yab...

>>28359514
No matter what Cover throws at me, I don't care. I just go watch Wamy and feel happy.

I'm actually curious how Mike will handle her vshojo career and content. Since there are theories in the numberthreads that Pekora or Flare is basically handling the planning of their schedules and content behind the scenes for gen 3.

>>28359676
good for you lamys

>>28359514
I only watch tree and shark anyways and I trust them to do the right thing.

>>28359676
The final unicorn haven...

>>28358608
They also announced it on Obsydia's anniversary which is extra funny.

>>28359676
Is she the last GFE chuuba in hololive?

>>28359781
My only concern is dumbasses like Mori are going to feel some misguided desire to try and force Gura into a male collab out of some desire to 'own the haters'.

>>28357414
>>28357445
Kek. Seeing this as an Indochad makes me kinda proud of ID management. No forced lore bullshit, an actual competent management, and M-chan literally said that she is too shy to have her own avatar.

>>28359676
But Lamy is on break...

>>28359558
It's Sega problem again...

>>28359514
I'm so happy to be a JP chad right now

>>28359919
ID3 probably has a good middle ground between having no lore and too much lore

>>28358722
Because Omegay lucked out with Myth (and let's face it, Mori/Gura mostly) and so they gave his ass complete control sure that a genius like this will replicate it.

>>28359514

JP will be forever safe as long as Migo remains

>>28359846
>announced it on Obsydia's anniversary

which en groups symbol is on omegas gun?

>>28360317
Based Miko, EN can do their own sport festival if they want to include Homos.

>>28359514
Your HoloJP isn't safe because Omegay will just use their managerial powers to force them onto everyone. ENstars will now take over the company no matter how bad their numbers are or how much everyone hates it

>>28359514
>>28359998
Feels good being able to just enjoy streams without having to worry about shit like that.

>>28360469
Good thing the borders are open

>>28359897
Most hololive chuuba are gfe anon....

The current rrat in /hlgg/ is that Omegay is the 5th StarsEn.

What are your feelings on this topic /#/

>>28360469
>EN having any power over JP
And then they'll fly to mars and become the first spacetubers, right?

>>28360469
A-chan will show Omega a picture of HoloX, point at him and laugh.

how did lulu do on her redebut?

>>28360564
A lot of them are GFE-lite but I can't think of any that are Lamy-tier "you are my boyfriend" GFE

>>28360617
That would be an ABSOLUTELY HORRID decision, UNLESS they've been completely gutted of any managerial power.

is Niji doing event streams this past few days? their numbers are really high recently.

>>28360677
not as good as bora but will beat kson and nazuna

So what spark this Omega shit post to appear again? This died long time ago

>>28360409
>symbol on weapon
tarrantchama?

>>28360777
sana finally have more time to shitpost on twttr

>>28360777
His own ego. Tempus is coming out so he had to use it as an opportunity to promote himself. Literally posting a manga featuring himself to leach the hype like he did council, it's the actual fucking worst

>>28360741
Koshien anon.

>>28360741
Koshien, their buff for the year.

>>28360777
A literal attentionwhore, and I guess the JP management side really doesn't care about overseas unless they're doing yabai stuff.

Every single bad aspect of EN management was Omegay. The fact that he is back should indicate to you that everything is about to get much worse

Schizoposters, we can't stop winning.

>>28360617
that would be legit power harassment concern level, no way its true.

>>28360975
The ALL OUT WAR arc has only begun schizo posting will only get more fun as it comes to a head and somebody actually implode a company/branch.

>Ludwig's Smash tournament stream is only at 10k
Susan, is this guy really worth more money than vtubers?

>>28360564
not really, mostly the ARMRest go full GFE other like marin or okayo just want to be fap material and the rest just act friendly with the chat or just friendzoned them

>>28360959
JPchads can't stop winning, the timeloops will consume /#/.

>>28361066
Should've invited xqc and Pokimane again like the leech that he is. Since that's how he got 100k viewers in his last event.

is Ui the biggest indie

>>28361066
vtuber still are cosidering kind of cringe hobby who only weebs permavirgins and creepy loosers(vshojofags are also included) likes

>>28361317
yes

>>28360891
>Literally posting a manga featuring himself
Reminds me of this faggot.

>>28361317
No that's Ironmouse. Remember everyone in vshojo is an indie who has talent freedom (from what? they're indies)

>>28361066
Yes.
Vtubers in the west are too anime, and there's no reason to buy them out off of twitch when they're ALREADY on the platform.
In Japan, they're more mainstream, but again, no reason to pay money to grab them when they're already on the platform.

>>28361395
Ah man I had managed to erase that one from the memory banks thanks a lot fag.

>>28361066
Susan is such a fucking dumb bitch. She literally has 2 corpo groups that have multiple members that can pull 5k (and for holo it's 10k) CCVs out the ass and do 30-50k regularly and yet she pays millions to fucking Twitch whores like lily who get worse veiwership than Kiara. KIARA!

>>28361505
Imagine if that was invested into a modern chat UI, discoverability and community features instead of these hasbeen losers.

>>28361505
Anime girls scare investors. Better bring the literal whores and the funny maymay guys.

>>28361505
sorry, anime bad

>the council girls unironically inclined while Omega was gone
Wtf is this guy back?? Fucking homoEn dead on arrival FUCk

>>28361505
What that? Poach more twitch streamers who are totally not going to just go retirement mode in youtube? You want asmongold?

>>28361403
To begin with, she isn't bigger than Ui

>>28360777
See >>28358355

Kronii members-only poll numbers
~650 votes @ 2 min
~750 votes @ 5 min
~950 CCV according to phone playlist bug

>Omagalulz is a real person and he's back
He/she/whatever is just a lore gimmick
they are not a real person just a management avatar or some kind of metabullshit

>>28362166
Yeah, There are more than 1 person behind Omega.

>>28362022
what the fuck is that question
is that about bread

770 waiting for Peko

>>28362238
...yes

>>28361505
Ludwig typically gets 1M views on his VODs now, I guess Youtube doesn't give a shit about any other metric but then what was the point of poaching him as a streamer? He already had a Youtube channel and it was already doing well, his streams do shit numbers relative to what Youtube paid for him and if the Live or Gaming portals had good UIs he'd get fucking buried under sports channels and vtubers.

>>28360491
This is a weird thread to post that in

>>28354742
BRONZE
>1) 35,700: Todoroki Kyoko (Nijisanji) 3D Reveal
>2) 62,797: Mayuzumi (Nijisanji) Graduation announcement
>3) 60,986: Yorumi Rena (Nijisanji) SMC 3rd Anniversary
>4) 29,741: Miko (Hololive) Minecraft
>5) 48,415: Marine (Hololive) Holocure
>6) 46,066: Subaru (Hololive) TowaShuba collab
>7) 36,803: Kiara (Hololive) 3D Birthday
>8) 32,445: Watame (Hololive) Clubhouse 51 collab
>9) 38,689: Mel (Hololive) Live2D 3.0 update 4/5
>10) 31,811: Pekora (Hololive) MonHun Sunbreak
>11) 45,810: Lize (Nijisanji) Nijisanji Koshien
>12) 43,505: Maimoto (Nijisanji) Nijisanji Koshien
>13) 29,476: Subaru (Hololive) Metal Slug 3
>14) 46,857: Korone (Hololive) PeKorone Super Mario Bros
>15) 36,702: Salome (Nijisanji) Ojiisan to asobou
>16) 62,906: Nijisanji (Nijisanji) VOLTACTION debut


> PER COMPANY
7x: Nijisanji
9x: Hololive

> PER STREAMER
2x: Subaru
1x: Todoroki Kyoko, Mayuzumi, Yorumi Rena, Miko, Marine, Kiara, Watame, Mel, Pekora, Lize, Maimoto, Korone, Salome, Nijisanji

>>28357414
I fucking told you so. Don't call me a schizo ever again.

https://twitter.com/omarupolka/status/1548488711285125120
https://twitter.com/omarupolka/status/1548490024593035264
>Polka tweeting twice in a row just to shill Sana's merch
she has done a better job than all EN management and EN branch combined

Why is Omega so hellbent on inserting ximself into Hololive lore when xe didn't do anything interesting nor significant in any event in the first place. The fans and the talents create the lore and story, stop intruding with your weird-ass lore who nobody cares about.

Anyways, as much as I hate it, it seems reception on Omega's return is generally positive, at least to the normie fans. Somewhat modest amount of engagement on both recent tweets. I wonder what xe'll introduce now.

>>28362166
Then why was the account completely radio silent for so long? Why has it never even been used for basic shit like A-Chan does? What is the point of it?

>>28362531
based unity clussy.

>>28362570
>stop intruding with your weird-ass lore who nobody cares about.
>it seems reception on Omega's return is generally positive
Huh?

>>28362570
Yeah, those reception comes from clipniggers who subbed to Sana when she announced her graduation.

>>28362531
should have given jenma the l2d instead of adding more girls to her plate

predictions for niji koushien + desuwa?

>>28362585
because they just were talking about trivial thing who nobody care they don't have nothing interesting to say until tempus came out with more content about lore

>>28354742
SILVER
>1) 38,292: Salome (Nijisanji) Unpacking (Low energy)
>2) 64,120: Marine (Hololive) Holocure
>3) 70,134: Nijisanji (Nijisanji) *Niji event
>4) 32,929: Botan (Hololive) Holocure
>5) 49,897: Salome (Nijisanji) Rhythm Tengoku
>6) 51,071: Salome (Nijisanji) Idolm@ster Million Live
>7) 49,060: Noel (Hololive) NoePeko DQ11S gambling
>8) 35,848: Marine (Hololive) Zatsu
>9) 107,144: Salome (Nijisanji) 1st Utawaku
>10) 34,727: Toya (Nijisanji) Toya
>11) 59,594: Leos (Nijisanji) Nijisanji Koshien
>12) 46,537: Pekora (Hololive) MonHun Sunbreak
>13) 59,914: Hayato (Nijisanji) Nijisanji Koshien
>14) 51,831: Pekora (Hololive) PeKorone Super Mario Bros
>15) 41,836: Leos (Nijisanji) Nijisanji Koshien
>16) 63,495: Shikinagi Akira (Nijisanji) Debut stream


> PER COMPANY
10x: Nijisanji
6x: Hololive

> PER STREAMER
4x: Salome
2x: Marine, Pekora, Leos
1x: Nijisanji, Botan, Noel, Toya, Hayato, Shikinagi Akira

FUCKING. TOLD. YOU. SO.

>>28354742
KING IS BACK BABY

>>28362655
The mass of people who don't watch streams liked the tweets, but there are a few schizos probably from here or 5ch attacking him also

>>28360677
7.8k peak and 3.2k$
Considering people are only now finding out about it, it did ok.
She was at 2-3k viewers regularly.

>>28362990
That's fucking retarded. A-Chan is a single staff on the JP side and is constantly active, there is no fucking excuse for any kind of public facing PR account to die like that especially if it's managed by multiple people.

I've seen discord, reddit and twitter responses but none of those places appear to shit on Omega's return. Why is /vt/ the only place sperging out?

>>28363430
The silent majority

>>28363430
Normalfags are idiots, something new please.

>>28363391
it's retarded because EN management are incompetent there is an example of omega alpha done Right
https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Ask_Vector_Prime
https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Source:Ask_Vector_Prime/Facebook

>>28362531
Just have polka take over en management

>>28363430
The only place that isn't pozzed

>>28363430
>Clipwatcher behaviour is stupid
More news at 11

>>28363526
So normalfags are bad, but they buy merch, improve Hololive algo by watching clips and attend convention panels?
On the other hand, hardcore fans just super chats and buy memberships.
I don't know, I think I like being a normie and not an obssessed creep.

Pretty good for cunny
https://www.twitch.tv/fallenshadow

>>28363391
Like mane like talents anon. A-chan is as active as holoJP and omega is as active as council

>>28363722
There's a wide wide WIDE space between the two polarized opposites you jus stated, and who the fuck said hardcore fans don't do any of the first three things you mention?
Most of the normie-tiers don't even buy that much merch. Just camp twitter and watch clips at most.

>>28363722
This place has a weird thing about normies but they don't know 80% of the fanbase are normies.
If there are 20% of hardcore fans left, Hololive will lose to even 774inc

>>28363722
What does that have to do with anything? It's still cringe and stupid the Omega shit.

>>28363682
What sort of faggot self insert nigger tweet is this?

>>28354742
WELCOME BACK KING

>>28363757
I was about to post this. The fuck happened to her to incline this much? Bao is also a 2k streamer now? I remember both range on like 300-700 at most

>>28363722
Who says hardcore fans don't do the former? Anyway, I don't think it's normal fans but the clipwatchers.

>>28363822
Uh huh, and normies don't buy anything? You just love to pull shit out of your ass. I mean, Anime Expo was full of normies and yet Holo merch keeps getting sold out.

>>28363430
Normalfags follow the trend of harcorefans. When they notice harcorefans jumping the ship they will silently fuck off as well, but they will never voice their opinion. Normalfags will always celebrate the new products regardless if it's shit as long the hardcore fans are still loudly passionate about it.
>proofs?
The case of little horses cartoon that lose a lots of traction when the started the 50% male/female ratio and died when the hardcore weebs got kek'd.

>>28363901
Looks like a natural incline

>>28364039
Hardcore fans are just as mindless as normies, sorry to burst your bubbles.

>>28363992
Anon, as I said, wide spaces. The fact is that the fanbase is big enough that even a modest % buying will deplete the stocks that Hololive has considering they constantly under-order, from the looks of things.
Also, anime-cons are probably a step -up/sideways/down- from normie tier, though by how much is open to interpretation.

>>28364215
I mean, I didn't say the contrary.
Normalfags will congregate wherever loud hardcorefans are regardless if the product is shit or not.

>>28362531
Based ENfag who genuinely love EN, I respect her and shuba

>>28364158
Well good for them. Kinda like that fallenshadow girl. Hope she'll made up with mommy and do an asmr collab

Let it never be forgotten: even Mori hated Omega for being completely useless.

>>28356682
They'll debut soon then we'll know who they are.

>>28363992
>normies
>attending in anime conventions
RURU LMFAOOO FAGGOTS WHO EVEN DARE TO COME IN WEEB CONVENTION AUTOMATICALLY MAKES YOU A WEIRD ASS MOTHERFUCKER WHO WOULD SMASH A TODDLER SO DON'T EVER MENTION """""""NORMIE""""""" DOING CRINGE SHIT LIKE THIS

Why is Omega hated? He doesn't even do anything....

>>28364509
I agree with the sentiment that if you're attending cons you're definitely not 'normie' tier, but there's still a wide range from 'ponyfucker' to 'is more engaged than a normalfag' that attends something well known like AX.

>>28364604
Yeah exactly. He had a big reveal that sapped all the interest from Council then fucked off and let EN fend for themselves while he got things in place for him to self insert as a member of the EN Homo group

>>28364604
Exactly. He was the reason Council was know as a flop. Take a look at council now while he has been gone

>>28364705
Lots of ironic weebs at anime cons. Trash Taste was there so that gives you a good idea of the core demographic.

>>28364604
Because he was a bitch ass Vtweeter that couldn't even be assed to Tweet productively by shilling. He was an attention whore who did nothing but leech off other Holo's hype in order to boost himself up to no good cause. The rrats that he was involved in management, supported by the talent's own words, described him as an autistic fucktard who shoved un unwanted lore and was generally uncooperative while taking credit for everything he didn't do.

Overall, he's the embodiment of a shitty middle manager.

run faster Suityan!

>>28364604
>>28359489

>>28356682
>Have any previous holostars had noteworthy PLs?
Only ones I can think of are Rikka (oldfag utaite from the good ol’ NND days with a bunch of connections to people like Eguchi Takuya and Amatsuki), Oga (100% OJ dev), and maaaaaaybe Roberu (from that one group) but that’s about it

>>28364792
When will you stop?

>>28362393
He doesn't even have VODs his entire channel is just clips.

What is with these god awful NA/EU hours for this JP-ID portal relay going on? Don't think any of the prior portal or kensetsu relays have ever been scheduled at such hours. Only silver lining is the wrap up with the ID members got pushed back several hours until after Pekora's 3D Live.

>>28363430
No one even has any proof Omega has ever done anything bad other than larping as an androgynous character on twitter. Which is, whatever.

>>28364604
>He doesn't even do anything...
And that is exactly why he is hated. Compare this self-important vtweeter to A-chan, Nodoka, Shinove, and M-chan who actually work their asses off and care for their talents and are thus respected by the talents in return

>>28365076
Weekend, and it's because of Pekora anniversary anon. Did you think they'd overlap? No no no.

>>28365076
Na/eu don't care about ID anyway why are you so mad?

Bros help me, if my oshi mention collabing with homoen even just once, I might cancel my membership (so far she's not saying anything anywhere). Am I being reasonable?

>>28365076
uh, because they don't want to overlap peko stream? not that hard

>>28364977
Anon, he has four or five channels.

>>28365121
Yep,
If this MF was busting his ass and actually had the respect of the talent as a result, I'd accept this weird chunni nonsense as someone who's weird, but competent. As is, everything we've heard from Myth and council seems to be thinly veiled contempt at best at how he's a useless fuckwit.

>>28365091
Gura, Ame, Kiara and Calli have shitted on it before. Of course you actually have to watch streams to know that so most twitterfags and Reddit doesn’t know.

>>28365076
it's a sunday noon for jops my dude

>>28365172
If she does what Ame did it’s reasonable. If she says she has to do it for whatever reason while not dunking on her fans than nah I’ll still keep it.

>>28365172
?
Group collabs that are probably for the sake of 'hey, these people exist' and probably pushed for by management? (Hence, business?) Don't worry about it. Even Suisei has done shilling in collabs and if you got schizo over something like that, you ACTUALLY need meds.
If they're constantly collabing with dudes, especially 1 on 1? Then you're being a bit more reasonable but still schizo.

>>28365172
yes, schizo-kun, it's perfectly reasonable

>>28365091
Completely stealing Councils momentum by having them play a video of himself at the end of their first collab and making people think there was a new secret member yet to debut was pretty fucking bad

https://youtu.be/7S9QhFeGw60?t=3434

Also the members of EN themselves have nothing good to say about Omega and generally portray him as a powertripping retard whenever they do speak about him.

>kobo 1.1m
holy fuck she's not stopping
how long would it take for her to mog salome?

man, holostats still dead huh

For all the shitting on Luxiem for chink pandering Shu is always doing some 4-7k stream in NA times. If a homo can even be half a shu, that's a massive success

>>28365158
Always loved those relays although admittedly this one seems rushed, are the ID members even doing anything on their side of the portal?

>>28356409
>our schizos
kill yourself along with them

>>28365220
Seems to have 3? One for VODs all of which have shitty numbers, one for shorts which are mostly very meh with a few random ones that went viral, and the main channel he streams on which are just clips that have good views.

>>28365378
Salome was going faster. People were going
>OH EM GEE SALOME IS UNSTOPABLE
too. Learn a fact of live kobuddy: the insane sub growth eventually stops and plateus, no exception.

>>28365414
Shu got 7k playing fucking Cook Clicker on NA times. If one of the new homos be close to that level it will be incredible

>>28365500
If the rumours about Pewdiepie being a member are true they could even hit 20k

>>28365239
People always say this and then provide no proof. The few times I've ever seen anyone reference him they're just teasing or joking about him. You'd have to be autistic to think they're "shitting" on a manager on a public stream.

>>28365414
And Shu does it all while being fairly boring and filling half of his schedule with valorant collabs
The HoloEN males are going to be fine

So today's podium is going to be Peko gold , Miko silver and Nui bronze right

>>28365414
He was the runt for a while because he worked hard trying to get NA viewers. Now he leeched enough from twitch streamers like Offline tv to get decent numbers in NA time

>>28365414
Outside of the annoying (but understandable since it's where the money is) choice to hold his b-day in CN/JP times, Shu has consistently streamed in NA times more than most of luxiem.

>>28365368
Yeah that Omega video really killed their momentum. They would have all been Gura-tier without that, but after that it was over.

>>28365610
Seems so

>>28365610
>Miko
What will she even stream?

>>28365414
He's so painfully boring I don't understand who even watches him. Not "comfy" boring either just boring boring.

>>28365564
I'm convinced God is a holofag if he's in.

>>28365592
Anon, if Gura goes out of her way to say Jenma should've been 'Omega' instead of whoever is currently at the helm, that's as strong as a "this fucker is unqualified" as we'll get, especially from someone like Gura.

>>28365783
What stream was that from?

>>28365419
What the hell, they've been working hard in the last few months on necessary big projects before the opening of the portal. The portal is overdue, should've done it weeks ago. Nothing is rushed here, just because it overlaps with vshojo and then people are accusing the relay as being rushed. Well one of the reasons might be to sabotage the debut, but the relay is not being rushed and ID girls have working hard for this day.

We had a good thing, you stupid son of a bitch! We had the girls. We had gachikois. We had everything we needed, and it all ran like clockwork. You could've shut your mouth, debuted EN3, and made as much money as you ever needed. It was perfect. But, no, you just had to blow it up. You and your pride and your ego! You just had to be the man. If you'd done your job, known your place, we'd all be fine right now.

>>28365881
Latest member stream and her off-collab return stream.

>>28365881
Members only where she talked about her projects and daki being rejected iirc.

>>28365881
>>28365940
She said Jenma should be the A-chan of EN is in her return zatsu.

>>28365471
Five: main channel, VODs, clips, podcasts and whatever Mogul Mail is supposed to be.

Will a bunch of japanese hags playing a 13 y/o cube game coded in Java mog the so awaited debut of one of the biggest Vtubers of all times in the biggest western company with the yab buff + Twitch inflated number?
We will discover it in just one hour, DON'T MISS IT ANONS

>>28365695
That sarcasm anon? It hurt them, that is undeniable. All the air was sucked out of Council and by the end of the collab everyone was tweeting and talking about who Omega was, not the council themselves.

How are the Kson debut numbers looking like?

So what's the consensus on the Ame shit? I just woke up, and skimming through that thread in the catalog and /hlgg/ literally gave me nothing

>>28366068
I comepletely forgot about Kson

>>28365419
>are the ID members even doing anything on their side of the portal?
Kek, you guys really don't care at all about ID, huh. They did the right thing with the timing.

>>28365934
>>28365940
So rosemi membership stream? Got it

>>28365756
Apparently she's catching the pekofunnel with wwe

What time is the vshojo twitch debuts again?

>>28366166
just alot of funposting and people breaking out containment

>>28366166
She BTFO'd unicorns and homobeggars at the same time.
"Everything will be the same, I trust the recruitment team, we only will do what we want to" and said that she's open to collabs (literally said: "maybe some group collabs")

>>28366299
Proof?

>>28366068
I don't care, I'm going to sleep so I'm fresh for peko

>>28366068
assuming both channels raid into her, she's going to be getting 20k for sure

If Nazuna's going to focus on twitch she's not going to have much success
she had 8k playing pokemon last stream, switching platforms is the last thing she'd want to do

>>28365592
Anon, all you do is prove you don't watch streams. If you'd watched streams, you'd know.

>>28366381
Kson's Tier 3 membership

>>28365172
>Your oshi WILL collab with the homo

>>28366166
A lot of shitposters larping as dissatisfied unicorns

>>28366393
>not synchronising your sleep schedule with JST

>>28366274
Ogey omega

Numbers for now. Skipping it tho since I'm a bit bored of survival-crafting games today

>>28366161
15.2k so far
>3D avatar
oh god its shit

>>28366715
>15k
Raided I assume?

>>28366465
Fuzichoco is wasted for Omega's design

>>28366104
Really? That's pretty fucked up and I heard about the sub decreased on every council member before too or was that shit posting? I wasn't really there during their debut so I'm not sure

>random sounds every 5 seconds
>shit popping up all over the screen

Yeah we're on twitch for sure.

>>28366715
You weren't kidding, what the fuck is with the 3D. It's blurry and there's no mouth tracking.

>Gura asked about omega
>says she doesn’t know who he even is of all the managers
>goes on a rant on how Jenma is the best Manechan and actually helps them
>Basically endorses Jenma to be the Achan of En
Nah there is nothing bad on Omega

>>28366793
24.5k now
there might have been? i ididnt see it, i have a tab open on the side
but so far
>no actual internet
>scuffed mic

>>28366420
they just raided kson for her debut

>>28357414
HOLY SHIITAKE!!!

screenshots of kson pls, im not clicking to avoid getting undiserable recs.

>>28366965
>we paid $250,000 for this

>>28366965
So this is the Vshoujo box.

>>28366166
half of her unicorns/gachis left after what she said, the other half stayed and will cope till the moment she collabs with one of the males.

>>28366965
oh shes doing it on twitch?

>>28367029
23.7k now

>>28367029

>>28366965
>>28367046
>>28367055
>>28367110
seems like i took the screenshot a bit early, the raid has fully filtered in now

>>28367055
>half

No idea why she's using her garbage home 3D instead of the Live 2D with the bikini which is great. First impressions matter, Maybe she'll switch later but people are gonna get bored and leave if there's no coombait on the screen.

>>28357414
> Sana graduates
> immediately after HomoEN announced
> Omega Returns
Sana was the pillar. The Neighbula the crystalization of all Unicorns. She was our last and greatesr defender.
It's too late now bros. We should have cherised her when we had the chance.

So what happens if it's not actually Miguel?

>>28367129
KEKW

Creative freedom is really just another word for using copyrighted materials

Mion 20k get

>>28367169
the bikini model isn't allowed on twitch, underboob is banned there

>>28367137
so is it just gonna hit the 30k vshojo limit

>>28367110
both are on twitch. Fucking baffling for supposedly being about the jp market.

>>28366436
Kek. fuck you. But no you are right Miko WWE
At 22:00

... was Coco ever funny

>>28367210
Creative freedom is being a react shitter, yes.

>>28367222
Go Mion Go

>>28366845
YT had a fucky system in place that ended up HEAVILY slashing the subs on Council on debut, and in their fucking idiocy didn't ask people to check and re-subscribe if they had been unsubbed.
Idiots.

>>28367129
Coco debut was way better. So much for freeduuum

>>28367243
even after refreshing the page shes still around 24k

>>28367129
Why is her 3D so blurry?

>>28367210
pretty much yes, creative freedom is another word for not clearing anything and hoping you don't get sued, or not clearing collab partners and getting dragged into drama later

>>28367178
Depends who it is but if they speak English it would probably make more sense. If it is her she's not gonna be able to viably communicate with anyone in the company except Kson.

>>28367299
>vshojo jp
>speaking 90% english

>>28367299
so many spics

>>28367274
No, she was also cringe and based

>>28367299
>JP branch

>>28367299
Zhangs...

>>28367331
isegye btfo

>>28367331
that looks blurry and unpleasing to the eyes

>Kson 24k
Oh no no no Holobronies...it's over...

>>28367329
Coco crashed into yagoo office was gold lore.

>>28367242
What about her yakuza one? Also how the fuck can Veibae use her model if that's true?

>>28367274
Yes, but always within the context of bouncing off of other Holomem really.

>Her model is all fucked up and slathered in chromatic aberration and shes hiding in the corner

So this is the power of Vshojo technology...

>>28367299
Chilebros?

>>28367425
Mio's working on it

>>28367274
not really, i watched the meme reviews mostly for the cringe kino, the rest of the time i couldn't be bothered to click on her streams

>>28367244
I just don't get why Rushia would do this and shift her fanbase to twitch
Maybe Rushia needed some direction but it's got to be lonely being the only one who doesn't know English

>>28367299
>No ID
based, no whore allowed in the land of the Chads

>>28367299
What site is that from?

>>28367299
How do you see that?

>>28367339
Not a corpo purisu andastando

>>28367274
in the context of being different to the rest of hololive. without that shes no different to countless other twitch streamers

Set up the funnel and raid and still couldn’t break 25k? Lmao. For NotRushia if they do the same I’m expecting 35k.

>>28367425
Isn't this the expected number? If she couldn't even match up to at least that Nyanners recrod, it would have been worthless.

>>28367466
hi, small country but we have enough weebs to make it into rankings sometimes

>>28367425
>mogging luxiem debuts
sorry nijibrony not this time

That's it not even 30k? This is the epic tallent that will change the vtuber world in an era of freedom? Pfffff the war is still between nijichads and hologods

>>28367494
>Maybe Rushia needed some direction
Pekora probably was the one that helps her numberfagging decision in the first place. And now that she is alone she is just shitting her pants.

I'm never making fun of Hololive's 3D ever again.

>>28367503
The first international Vtuber..

Kson is literally the third most watch streamer on twitch right now kneel.

>>28367525
Desktop view below the stream

>all those random sound effects on Ksons stream for all the notifications
Why does every twitch streamer do this

>>28367503
Based ID bros, everyday that passes I regret calling you ind_gs more and more

>>28367274
no but she is cute

>>28367609
holo 3D hasn't been a joke for like a year now, literally the only thing they can't get right is object tracking/snapping, everything else is way better than everyone else

>>28367647
>no adin, train, asmon, poki,los pollos,rubius or xqc live.
LOLE

>>28367299
>vshojo "jp" branch
>+500 US
>+80 JP

>>28367647
That's grim for Twitch.

>>28367299
Lmao vshojo jp

What the fuck is wrong with her model.

>>28367244
>>28367494
kson said she'll be doing twitch for en and youtube for jp
no idea what nazuna will do if she's supposedly rushia

>>28367647
slow day

Who owns the highest Twitch record? Chuuba from Isege idol?

>>28359899
Gura and Mori aren't as close since the off collab "shenanigans"

>>28367795
what is that filter jesas

>>28367647
That's a bad sign for Twitch more than anything.

>>28367795
I think you need those red and blue 3d glasses

>>28367609
Anon, outside the weirdness of some of Myth's 3d (I'm guessing the lack of being in-person and being able to see it in motion in real-time has meant that adjustments haven't had a chance to be made to some oddities yet), ever since the broken-shoulders incident of Roberu HoloPro 3d has been on the up and up.

TWITCH HAS FREEDO-

>>28367821
pretty sure isedol never got a stream past 25k~. twitch vtuber ceiling is pretty low

>>28367823
>veibae's boyfriend overlapping the debut

>>28367821
nimu 80k then vei 38k and bubi 37k

>>28367274
It was funny because of how different she was compared to the other Holos
Now it's the opposite and she's like the least offensive girl in Vshojo

>>28367821
For vtuber? Vei. For all time it's probably a mexican soccer stream or something.

24K DORYAAAAA
>MION MOGGED KWHORE
MION MOGGED KWHORE

God this is fucking awful. Do we get Not!Rushia in 30 minutes?

>>28367821
Nimu 45k outfit as I remember

>>28367823
Dang shroud has been inclining well lately. I always thought he has summit numbers but his average has been double lately.

>>28367823
>that tranny
kekw

wtf?

Seems like an ez 30k for Kson
Predict on Rushia debut?

>>28367952
>>28367961
Vei 38k? Isn't some Isege get like 38k for playing Poppy playtime?

>>28368038
kson is at 26k

>>28367274
No, she was just amusing since she was being different to the rest of the Holos

>>28367474
Who were the other organizers for this kind of minecraft relay? Can only remember kanata and peko on the top of my head. It feels so lifeless when the organizer doesn't even know how to make concrete blocks.

HOLO GOLD! HOLO GOLD!

>>28365881
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_skfzMMyso&t=6043

>>28367883
I still hate that model, there is no fucking way that’s Yaman’s work

Mion about 1k behind kson
kekw

At this rate Kson will lose to the fucking males debut

>>28368048
should be in 30 mins yea

>>28368076
No, what the fuck? Isedol never reached 30k~ territory

>>28367795
I see so this is Vshojo's tech. Hololive and Nijisanji can't even come close.

>>28367299

>>28368114
(Literally half of kekson's viewers are from a raid btw)

Mion 25k

>>28367503
Maya Putri... I kneel...

Mio 25k

>>28368208
>half
more like 2 3rd

>>28368208
And its youtube so I count as a view alt tabbed shit posting in the thread as opposed to Mio has just that many people tabbed in.

Matsuri vs. Nazuna isn't gonna end well for the former

>>28367795
vshoujo cutting edge tech

>>28367883
Where's my freedom you fucking /vt/ ????

>>28368276
That's why Subaru is streaming too.

>>28367795
I kneel to vshojo tech

>>28368235
She also collabed with FBK in the past

Don't we have an analytic website for Twitch viewership numbers to check how much is the raid?

>>28368181
cmon anon..

https://twitchtracker.com/lilpaaaaaa/streams/39312727607

>>28368084
Botan was the ringleader for the Summer Fest relay. With Peko et al for help.

>>28368361
I was watching the raft stream it was about 11k when the raid hit