/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

kek

>>28311686
Cover seriously feels like they want Tempus to fail.

>>28311758
It doesn't make sense they probably axed a future EN3 for this

>>28311686
AIEEEE REDDITBROS TASUKETE

>>28311686
THEY WILL FAIL.
GOD WILL IT.

>>28311686
Not surprising. Most of the people who want homo stars are dramafags who only watch and comment on clips.

>>28311686
Ahahahaha

They are doomed to fail huh

>>28311831
>probably

>>28311686
Either that drama channel is really popular or the Stars is flopping really hard

>>28312444
95k isn't a lot

>>28312444
This rev guy has 650k subscribers. Not surprising it's going to get more viewers than a channel that has 7-8k subscribers lol. The true measure of their popularity will be in the actual teaser videos they'll release in 2 days.

>>28311686
>Watch half the video
>Hear misinformation and shitty pronunciations
>Leave
I mean, yeah, ENstars will probably fail, but that video is just shit.

>>28311945
Don't worry. Their upvotes on reddit post are gonna safe them! Who needs to watch streams when you get karma on reddit.

>>28311686
Wtf is tempus? I've been under the rock for some time.

>>28312675
Hololive final yab

>>28312542
that's average Kiara view, so it's alot

>>28312712
No, seriously, are there new homo generation? JP or EN homo? ID homo?

>>28312607
This. Judge it once they actually show their designs.

>>28311686
Schizo here, even i wouldn't spit that amount of misinformation in such a short time. Rev says desu deserves the rope

>>28312819
EN homos

>>28311686
You know, for people who would never watch Tempus you guys sure are obsessed with making threads about these guys every single hour

>>28311686
Redditsisters will save them by inserting their name into every reddit thread

>>28312844
The end is near.

>>28312675
HoloStars EN

>>28279843
The official reddit post does not link the video and the video is on a new channel they also don't link anywhere. The one twitter official twitter post does not link the video either. They just drop the website with no context. And they dropped it at a bad hour for the west like they are scared of attention. If you were not on /vt/ or looking at the girls tweets at the exact time it was easy to miss. Baffling they didn't quietly cancel the project they were going to be this scared of promoting it.

>>28311686
fucking kek
redditors are dramawhores, who knew

>>28311831
Unfortunately so and now EN is going to have to wait probably another year for more girls

>>28311686
>Reddit Says Desu

>>28312607
You're gonna look really dumb with that promo tanks too anon

>>28313098
even JP homos weren't purposely set up to fail like this
It really feels like they were forced to do this by investors so they're taking to piss to say "see? It won't work"

Rev is just as bad as Hero hei, making dog shit videos off of twitter drama mostly no one cares about.

>>28313269
>cover introduces new branch
>oh no, the new gen is never getting released
What is this retarded reasoning

>>28313383
based investors

>>28313389
He's also a straight up pedo who defends the fact several of his lolicon mates work as school teachers. I mean I don't care what people jack off to in private but come on.

>>28313420
I meant as in investors forcing them to debut males and manage taking the piss because they didn't like the idea

>>28313444
but he has a girlfriend and touches grass so he obviously can't fap to lolis

>>28313501
Gross dude either way though

>>28313476
oh yeah that's also possible, maybe idk

>>28312819
let's hope there isn't a single faggot or some transformer dyke in the group. Don't want a noctyx repeat. Needs some actual men in these groups and who ain't a fucking beta. It'll help if they don't look androgenous either.

>>28313417
It's been almost exactly a year from council and now this tempus ass shit is happening. Are you retarded, anon? It's gonna be another year before we get more girls, probably. Now stop being a faggot.

>>28313555
what a dumb fuck. didn't know he had a woman. go back to twitter.

>>28311686
EN management completely dropped the ball with marketing this one. It's so unartfully done that it almost feels malicious rather than pure incompetence.

>>28313476
>>28313604
Cover is a privately owned company

>>28314768
But ID3 and Uproar debut around the same time

>>28311831
Good.

>>28311686
I can't wait to see the excuses after they start mogging everyone

Cover learnt nothing from HomoJP, HomoEN is gonna doom to fail. There is no market for male vtuber in the west and they already cut them tie with China.

>>28316792
ID and JP launching around the same time versus EN and EN launching at the same time? That doesn't spark you as improbable?

>>28317531
You don't have to shit on HomoJP to recognize HomoEN as a flop. HomoJP has a dedicated audience, albeit small.
HomoEN though? Who the fuck wants that

>>28316618
Investors still exist, anon.

Omega has been too quiet lately.... what if he's one of the homoENs...

>>28313335
I don't really care if it tanks or they get 100-200 CCV after debut. If someone there is a bro and plays the same games that I like, I'll watch them.

>>28314860
I don't follow the personal life of that fag, go back to learning about how SJWS ARE COMING FOR YOUR ANIME!!1!!

>>28318747
I'll watch if any of them is decent at fighting games, other wise probably pass

>>28318747
if one of them is into simracing i MIGHT occasionally tune in otherwise no thanks. and i will skip any collabs they have with Hololive.

>>28313269
I'm... sort of OK with this.

I watch ID mainly because Europoor, and less girls means more chance your oshi collabs with the specific other holos you like. The whole scene is just easier to follow without 5 billion gens like JP.

Now I understand shiny new is shiny and new but I'm happy where things are at right now.

>>28318747
you will get valorant, apex and nothing more.
Male Vtubers are drawn to that shit like flies

>>28311831
That's retarded. Hololive and Stars are separate groups and their launches are unrelated. Like Uproar launched just 1 month after ID3.

>>28311686
I like Rev, his videos seem like a good source for vtuber news

>>28318829
>>28318993
>>28318747
I kinda wanted a good male singer but... since it's EN, probably 0% chance of that happening.

>>28319188
this isn't bizzaro /vt/ you got the wrong thread

>>28313098
Somthing tells me cover couldn't find the males that met their high standards and just hired boring ass 1 views who don't bring anything to the table. That's my guess as to why they aren't shouting from the rooftops about the teaser like they did with the other EN gens.

>>28319208
Professor Bloom exists and is right there, anon.

>>28319208
EN males are bad at singing, even worse than EN females

>>28313269
That makes no sense.

>>28319103
except tempus is not stars but holoEN 3

> Try to distract from Sana graduation.
> Post your announcement trailer on the JP Hololive page for maximum exposure despite making a HoloPro EN twitter page.
> Have multiple HoloEN members direct their fans to that announcement.
> Get mogged by an illustration of Selen in a summer outfit.
> Post the announcement to your brand new YouTube channel.
> Get mogged by a faggot Dramatuber talking about your announcement.
> Ask Astel on stream about what he thinks about TEMPUS.
> Astel says most of Holostars' audience are from overseas and he's worried they'll take away everything they've built.
> Reddit thinks there's a cool ARG happening in the teaser video due to mysterious Latin words'.
> Turns out they're retarded and it's just that the PV creator forgot to replace a 'Lorem Ipsum' placeholder text in there.

>>28319188
>Rev Says Desu and Hero Hei are such good sources, glad I discovered them so I could stay informed

anon...

>>28319367
the countdown timer has the holostars logo literally in the background

>>28319546
I hate to be the bearer of bad news anon but they removed it last time I checked

>>28319588
https://tempus.hololivepro.com/wp-content/themes/0718tmp/images/bg.jpg
it's just hidden

>>28319839
boy I hope you're right

>>28319472
>Astel says most of Holostars' audience are from overseas and he's worried they'll take away everything they've built.

This is a legit worry. Most EOPs in JP chats evaporated after EN vtubers debuted.
They will kill Stars

>>28314637
They are made to appeal to fujos, what the fuck do you think they will look like?

>>28313269
Good, there's only 2 ENs I care about anyway

>>28319956
You are 110% correct.

Everyone knows Holostars exists yet no one watches or subscribes. Tempus aren't suddenly going to cause a trickle-down effect of subscribers, they're going to absorb the EN fans and leave their senpai back at square one.

>>28320315
tempus competition is with nijiEN
specifically the fujos, not all of which are in west taiwan

>>28319472
>illustration of Selen in a summer outfit.
uhhhh can i get a link to this?

>>28312675
time in Latin, source of the word temporary and temporal

>>28313098
This part is so fucking bizarre to me. Any marketing person knows that every extra step you add to get to a product decreases conversion by a ton. Making people seek out the link on their own... instead of just providing the fucking link themselves is ABSURD.

>>28319472
>> Turns out they're retarded and it's just that the PV creator forgot to replace a 'Lorem Ipsum' placeholder text in there.
I love those retards

>>28320466
Yeah, this sounds way more interesting.

>>28320439
Serious question: does it even matter if they are from west taiwan? Women care way less about nationalistic shit than men, I think they'll watch anyway if they're interested regardless of it being a Holo group

>>28320466
It's on the Nijisanji_WORLD twitter account. They've been revealing the Obsydia anniversary outfits one by one.

>>28311758
rrat: it is by design to makes strong males

>>28321202
we would have to see then. I have known some pretty crazy nationalist women.

>>28311686
Please don’t tell me these are faggots. Women and gays don’t watch Hololive.

why do I get the feeling that their target demographic is the Twilight audience

>>28321882
they have no target audience because only people who don't watch holostars asked for this

practically all comments are in support of it soley to own toxic idol culture and unicorns.

To be expected since most people that asked for HomoEN are virtue signalers and fags that want to destroy idol culture that don't watch streams.

>>28321882
The job position for StarsEN manager specifically calls for someone who is experienced in women's entertainment.

>>28319472
>> Turns out they're retarded and it's just that the PV creator forgot to replace a 'Lorem Ipsum' placeholder text in there.
no way this is real kekw

>>28323026
Israel.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/vzknwu/theres_some_latin_text_in_the_tempus_website_i/

>>28319956
THIS, I stopped to watch the JP girls after finding that being able to understand your oshi at 100% is way funnier that relying in clips and chat translators,

>>28319472
If any of you faggots stop watching the stars for 4 fat americans i will be so fucking mad

>>28323205
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpSllsJDI1Y

>>28319472
>>28323026
>>28323205
What in the actual fuck were they thinking?

>>28324049
It's Omega, he's not known for being good at his job.

>>28311758
For every hololive success, Yagoo need to offer stars as sacrifice to maintain the status quo

>>28319472
Holostars EN might be the most misguided thing Cover has tried and that's saying something

>>28323205
I can't imagine applying to the biggest vtuber company, getting in, and then they treat you like shit

>>28319472
>> Astel says most of Holostars' audience are from overseas and he's worried they'll take away everything they've built.
Yeah sure lol. Totally said it.
Stars western fanbase is very little.
Nigger weebos who don't speak japanese prefer cute girls noise to boys noise

>>28311686
I reported this video the second I saw it. Didn't get recommended the Tempus announcement in youtube, only this.
Can you imagine what it would be like working for Cover? Where your fans WANT to hate your project? I can't see how it would look in any other industry.
>sir, we just initiated our umibean collab between our Bush Beans branch, Goya Beans branch, and our Green Giant branch
>great, this will give an opportunity for our bean lovers to try a bean they might normally would have, and boost the ratings of everyone involved
>sir, the internet hates it
>what? why!? we spent a lot of time in development making those beans taste good together
>the acting of the Green Giant in the commercial was a bit stiff
>but how were the reviews of the actual UmiBeans?
>people generally liked the taste, but overall the project is seeing horrible reception
>but this is what they wanted... we did focus testing!
>here's a six hour video essay with 2 million views using UmiBean on why were a failing company who mistreats its bean growers

>>28311831
Good. EN doesn't need more girls.

>>28323678
>Call somebody oshi
>don't bother learning jp
Kys EOP faggot

>>28319472
The tweet was literally just a logo and got 50k likes

>>28311758
No, they want them to build the brand up. There’s no point to market Homos to Hololive fans because they’re not the demographic. Hololive started from 0 and so should the Homos

>>28327518
>Hololive started from 0 and so should the Homos
you were kinda right but then I read this and now I know you're retarded
yes anon the homos should be thrown into african wilds and be forced to survive and then develop electricity and internet before they can stream

>>28327652
It was a bunch of viral clips that made HoloJP popular and what catapulted EN to success not anything Cover did. StarsJP never went viral and doesn’t have the success that Nijisanji has for their JP males. They are where Hololive would be if it weren’t for those clips. From a business perspective, there’s no point in keeping something that can’t provide for itself afloat. Good luck to StarsEN but they are riding off of nothing here and Cover isn’t gonna magically help them get a million viewers.

>>28325242
This shit happens all the time, they do some focus groups testing or whatever that leaves them blind to the obvious profile of their customers and you get a viral clip of 'do guys not have phones?' later on.

In this case, they think their fanbase is "vtuber fans" and get a focus group of vshojo paypigs when its actually "cute anime girl fans," in the example above Blizzard thought their fanbase were "gamers" when they were actually "PC gamers who hated 'casuals'" and for an example from an entirely different industry there was the famous "new coke" fiasco where they though their audience wanted "nice tasting soda" instead of "the same shit they've drunk since they were kids."

>>28327518
>Hololive started from 0 and so should the Homos
Hololive did, so did Stars JP
Hololive EN didn’t, why should Stars EN?

>>28313098
I am genuinely rooting for them. Fuck cover but I want to see the StarsEN succeed because I don’t want the top Male vtubers to be all fujo pandering garbage

>>28311686
Kek. This only makes me believe those dudes are gonna be desperate as fuck to try to collab with the girls just for clout. Although, tbf, I feel like there will be a bunch of saviorfags flocking to them more than JP homostars since most of them seem to be EOPs that only went to JP homostars for their muh fairness shit.

>>28329038
why do you think they wouldn't be fujo panderers?

>>28329000
HololiveEN grew from the backs of their senpais, so will StarsEN. The difference is StarsJP isn’t relevant unlike HololiveJP. If StarsEN debuts they will cannibalize their JP branch since a lot of EOP saviorfags watch them

>>28311686
Will there be any traps or femboys in holoen2?

>>28329238
Same shit happened when HoloEN debut, they cannibalized the EOP viewership of HoloJP members.

>>28328903
Vtuber companies should really start polling fans of moe anime.
Seems like a lot of their effort doesn't hit the target audience. While I enjoy the gameshow segments on Hololive main channel, I'm not sure it has bleedover with the core Hololive fanbase. They probably saw idols on gameshows and were like, yeah, let's emulate that, but I surmise their budget could probably better be spent elsewhere, if they wanted to broaden their outreach.
Think about it. Double the output of Hologras, and start seeking contracts for streaming services, or even live television broadcasts. Most normies average exposure to vtubers is "ah its the blue shark pedobait girl that talks in a baby voice. not for me." But if they start seeing chuubas like Mio and Subaru on their TV, anime and manga only otakus will start giving it the benefit of the doubt
>oh, I'll just watch these cute hologra shorts
>oh, i know who that character is after watching a couple of these
>wow, this sora girl is pretty cool
>wish there were more episodes with her
>wait, she's streaming now and playing my favorite game?

>>28329499
Their game show always felt like a knock off of the Nijisanji one and the cast can't carry it.

>>28329499
You're forgetting something: it has to be good to grab an audience, otherwise you end up with the failed vtuber anime that aired years ago and never got any relevance.

You're all delusional if you don't think they will at least do well to begin with. Numbers will probably drop off after a while, and the 'shiny new thing' buff won't be as big for them as it is for the girls and it won't last as long, but they'll be fine. They'll have better numbers than JP stars, at the very least, and those boys are still truckin. I say this as a gosling who didn't want it to happen and does not want to see any of them interact with my oshi, they'll be fine.

>>28329499
If someone's first exposure to V-Tubing was Hologra they'd probably hate it even more because that shit is unfunny garbage.

>>28329963
A 100 viewers is already enough to do streaming full time. Hololive has warped people’s definition of success

>>28329963
JP Stars are doing good because they're constantly getting merch and sponsorships.
That has not been the case for HoloEN at all compared to their JP counterpart. They're so incompetently run that they've only had a few sponsorships in the past 6 months.

>>28323205
thats pretty funny but you should be permabanned for posting a link to a reddit thread

>>28323026
Why did you use kekw?
Nobody here uses kekw besides…Twitch.

>>28329639
I agree on the cast. While some in Hololive are born for the stage, and really know how to utilize their talents to make the endeavor more sucessful (Subaru, Marine), some are total dead fishes who are obviously uncomfortable with the format and tend to drain the energy (Towa, Aqua)
>>28329675
All they would be doing is capturing the wide target demographic of moe fans waiting season by season for the next sorta alright show.
>>28329989
Do you really think its that bad? I think it's one of the more well regarded vtubing projects.
In any case, slice-of-life comedy watchers love lolsorandum humor. Just look at the popularity of nichijou, or Asobi Asobase. Hell, it doesn't even have to be funny. You could go the Gochuumon route of just making it comfy

>>28330077
Dude I know 5 indie vtubers with 100-200 average views and they’re STILL doing part time jobs.

>>28329038
bad news...

>>28330077
Maybe with roommates to load bear. I know a guy who had 400 and was making what he called "enough to get by and have some spending money". 100 for real full time is way too low.

>>28327652
>thrown into african wilds and be forced to survive and then develop electricity and internet before they can stream
that's actually explain why it took this long

Considering there's an overwhelming lack of excitement and expecting them to fail doing the rounds, I hope at least one of the members sees this as an opportunity to just say fuck it and do whatever the fuck he wants. If one of them leans into the brotuber thing while playing kusoge I could see it working.

Ah I see, theres many in the weird apologetic phase where you blame cover for not advertising it...despite doing what they do for every gen. Despite this board, pinned comment on reddit, and the ability for fans to tweet, etc.

Face it, virtue signalers fucked cover over, and they still won't stop till hololive doesnt resemble anything the current fanbase likes about vtubers. They will keep making excuse after excuse and become louder and louder.

Males can't succeed in Cover because of "muh idol" bullshit

meanwhile Kuzuha is fucking oni girls and no one cares.

>>28311686
this guy has a gf that i have nudes of lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QKRhLSnAwY

Not even HoloStars have a clue what the fuck is this supposed to be lmao

>>28336512
It's actually sad as fuck that both UPROAR and Tempus have both been marketed as 'Not affiliated with the main Holostars branch'.

>>28336816
What the actual fuck is going on over at Cover?

>>28330635
Correction: newfag bronies don’t
The majority of the EN sphere takes place on Twitch

>>28334094
The reason this happens is because streamers are too shy to put a sub goal on the screen and look for sponsorships. 400 viewers is nothing to laugh at and is very respectable

>>28337142
>unironic twitch faggot trying to call other people new

>>28337309
If you can't have at the bare minimum 1k viewers while you belong in the most popular vtubing company in the world then you're nothing but a failure

>>28319956
>Most EOPs in JP chats evaporated after EN vtubers debuted
This is an absolutely false myth, not sure why people keep spreading it around. Most EOPs never bothered to watch streams in the first place, they were just clip watchers, and the ones who did are mostly still around.
Matter of fact, most HoloJPs kept inclining after HoloEN launched. If you watch the most EOP friendly members like Korone, Towa or Akirose, their chats are still as packed of english comments as they were back in 2020.

>>28312659
Drop en and give es instead

>>28337017
They don’t know what they’re doing.
Ame pretty much confirmed on stream that Tempus is aimed towards fujos.