/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>28269298
Fuck off kekson

>>28269298
Blaming any one of them, takes the decision they made irrelevant.

>>28269298
It is entirely Kson's fault that she is moving out. She decided to leave hololive like a cowardess whore. She decided to join the rival company. It was all a result of her choices. She should have just knelt to the Chinese if Kanata was much more important to her. Now we know where her priorities lie. She was never a good friend.

>>28269398
Fucking neck yourself nigger

>>28269398
/thread

Nah fuck the chinese arent yall americans

>>28269298
Kson is sellout whore. Kanata make good decision and decided to move out from soon to be brothel house.

>>28269596
It was already brothel house. You can hear moans from one of Kanata's streams

They're lost to demonice entities and can only blame the human soul instead of blaming the soulless.
Pls understand.

>>28269298
What Kson did wrong was not telling Kanata about her decision. Doesn't have to say it's Vshojo, just "I'm going to join another organization so you may have to prepare for this". Instead she kept Kanata totally in the dark until her surprise appearance in LA.

>>28269777
It's all about clout for kson now. She didn't bother with her friend because she knew she would only hold her back. She was already ready to let go for a long time now.

>>28269777

Damn thats kinda sad. Kinda getting the clearer Picture

>>28269298
>>28269398
You know, for all the shit people give them, they still give Vshojo enough credit to be considered “rivals”.
>”It’s a corp! So it means they’re automatically competition.”
Demographics aside, the only “business corporations” that ever appeared to be “corporately” butting heads are just Holo and Niji.

>>28269777
But Kanata decided to move out?
Why though?

>>28269777
Where’s all the info/videos of Kanata being out of the loop of everything?
Not doubting, just want to know.

ITT:
anons without kson tier 2 membership making up ratts

>>28269945
Corpo or not, company secrets are still a liability and any 2view can still make a mess of Cover with that information.

>>28270024
Kanata was entirely unprepared, She even said she did not even find a place to move in yet. if they have been planning this for a long time then she should have reserved a place already.

>>28270061
The member post got leaked anyway.

>>28270061
Is tier 2 her onlyfans?

>>28269656
sauce

ITT

>>28269298
Kson is not Coco. Coco is dead, Kson content isn't good.

>>28270393
The point of this post?

Hololive fans are genuinely terrible people holy shit

>>28270024
Kanata was surprised that her black company told her move or get fired, Cover sympathizers twisted that into meaning something else.

>>28269298
I'll never forgive her for joining vshojo after almost everyone in hololive cried for her.
And after saying she'd never join a corpo again.
Just look at what kind of scum she decided to join: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AH3m3PuJbHM

>>28269298
Are female friendships really just for show? I believed in kanacoco...

>>28270393
image unrelated, I mean how am I suppose to find Kson with Kanata fanart.

but i respect, your kson opinion

>>28270454
No point of reasoning, Kanata choose ta go with management decision, no point of blaming her, Kanata's career was on the line.

>>28270473

>Nux

sorry im gonna skip this one but i know yall are on suicide watch for vshoujo having boyfriends and e-girl

>>28270261
>The member post
the post was nothing I'm talking about a members only stream that came out afterwards
Basically they're still really good friends

>>28269398
The Chinese were right...

>my favorite lesbian vtubers broke up
>it's possible they broke up mainly due to capitalist corporate meddling
:^(

>>28270665
>Basically they're still really good friends
She has no reason to be honest about it though.

>>28270774
And you have no point of shitposting, yet here we are

>>28270774
It's probably best for the vast majority of /vt/ to continue believing that

>>28269298
I think it's more than just being afraid VShojo whorishness. If it were half of HoloJP would be forced to stop doing their side gigs. The real issues are obviously how VShojo is selling itself in japan and Michaelcat's new character.
"Talent Freedom" is a direct attack against the one thing that keeps Hololive on top. The fact that the girls aren't allowed to be brazen whores for days on end without putting out any other meaningful content. Even at their worst Choco and Marine seem tame compared to the average Vei or Nyan stream.
Mike's new character is basically just an extra loli Kanata, and even though that probably doesn't proc copyright in Japan, it cannot sit well with Cover.

This doesn't apply but it is why Mike is lucky VShojoJP is incorporated in Japan under Kson's name instead of having Gun or Melody's name anywhere on the legal documents.
I'm a legal assistant working in a copyright office and I hate what Disney has done to copyright so I want to talk about this. In the 1970s Disney won a lawsuit against some former employees through unproven but obvious bribery of the judge that blocks former employees from creating new characters that closely resemble characters from their former employers within 10 years of leaving the company unless the character was created by the former employee or spend (a poorly defined in the ruling) significant amount of time working on the character.

>>28270661
>sorry im gonna skip this one
I understand, it's painful to learn your heroes are scum who will cancel anyone just to please the pink cat

>>28270841
if you worked in a "copyright office" you would know the difference between copyright and trademarks, would you not?

>>28270942
Nah but imagine watching male vtubers tho reminds me of Leafy era.

>they both move in somewhere else together
>don't mention it
>no one knows

>>28270766
Only sane post
It all end with tribalfagging

>>28269298
Kson joined a rival company so Kanata living with her is a security risk for BOTH of them. If any information from Hololive gets leaked, the immediate assumption is it's the talent "sleeping with the enemy". The same applies in reverse if Vshojo information gets leaked. The assumption is either they intentionally shared the information or they left it in a location where their rooommate (the other party) could easily find it. There is also an incredibly small, but non-zero, chance that one could sabotage another's livestream by shouting something inappropriate or fucking around with a webcam. Any tech issues will be blamed on the roommate sabotaging. This is bad optics for both of them.

The fact is that if Kson kept her hiring a secret, she has had the ability to gain information from Kanata all this time and then sell it to Vshojo. Kanata wouldn't have had any reason not to trust her friend if she asked "what have you been up to lately?" Well now she does because her friend has a financial incentive to leak whatever she tells her. Now Kanata has to worry about Kson snooping through her work documents whenever she goes out and vice versa. Why would you want to stay in a living situation that leaves you distrusting your friend? It's in everyone's best interest they separate so they can safely keep work and friendship apart. Neither friend should want the other to be in that sort of situation. If either of them attempted to fight to stay together I would suspect they intended to be a corporate spy. Because they clearly care more about "staying together" than the well-being of their supposed friend.

>>28270985
The only issue of trademarking around this is whether or not Gun/Melody has licensed the VShojo trademark to Kson, which would be a completely different contract than the incorporation documents (and for both of their sakes I hope isn't just a verbal agreement).
If this is about Disney's trademarks, they don't own a trademark on Mikey or Donald or whatever. They own copyrights which they have ruined copyright law to keep ahold of. They do own a trademark on various logos including those character designs, but they can't trademark the characters.

>>28269398
Look at all those chink narratives. You're not dumb enough to believe all of that are you?

>>28271187
meds

Sane post- All parties made their decisions based on the circumstances taking into account their own interests. Kson wanted the opportuinty of vshojo, cover voiced their concerns to Kanata over her living with a direct competitor with major Venture capital investment , Kanata took the decision that removed the possibility of her being in the middle of drama/conflict between her employer and her friend and fully committed to the career she has worked hard on. Nobody did anything wrong and behaved like adults.

Schizo take: Kson commissioned her swimsuit outfit after she heard from Kanata hololive summer was coming back and she wanted to beat them to the punch. Kanata and cover realised this and knew kson could not be trusted anymore and Kanata left immediately. Friendship over.

>>28269777
Kanata only moved out after the emergency meeting with management. She knew, management didn't.

>>28270942
>heroes
What?

>>28271059
Hah, yep.

>>28271642
VShojo and friends have been doing swimsuits and lingerie outfits for months, so it's more likely Cover did it in response to Kson. It sounds like they might be getting nervous about the sudden competition, even though they shouldn't.

>>28270429
Prove it

>>28271187
Stop taking your meds

>>28271704
Kanata knew she was getting the fuck out a month ago when she graduated her roommate and dedicated herself to Hololive after learning the full implications of kson's decision. Even if there was a Cover discussion of the situation, it clearly only reinforced Kanata's decision and made her expedite her flight from her home.

But aside from any of the specifics regarding Kanata and kson's cohabitation, Cover is completely in the right for being concerned about Rushia having access to or knowledge of the homes of Hololive members. It's bad enough that she knows where the business locations are.

Good idea I agree with you that we should meet at Tianenmen Square to remember the Tianenmen Square Massacre 1989. But keep this a secret The Great Leap Forward The Cultural Revolution you never know who's listening Tianenmen Square 1989

>>28272193
>HoloEns fandom dying cuz HoloStarsEN is a thing.
>Bunch of People doom posting know Osshis are gonna forget the supas and fuck the Holostars

Yep not horrible

>>28272350
why you do this?

>>28272325
I was only kidding but it does show the sort of schizo conspiracy theories we might have got if they continued to live together. Moving out was for the best and they can still be friends

>>28272404
Sounds like a lot of cope from a Vshoujo fag

>>28272325
That's evidence of her knowing in advance, yet she said that she had to move out suddenly after the emergency meeting.

>>28272531
unlike you people who have parasocial relationships with a jpeg, I first and formost treat them as a streamer if they are not entertaining or good at games I wont watch them, then a person. I watch all kinds of vtubahs not chained by a corpo

>>28272687
The four pests

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7nMP4udchM
This is what they took from us

>>28272325
Rushia is extremely close with Kanata and Coco despite the schizo narratives you read here. They still hang out all the time. They will continue to do so even after Kanata moves.

>>28273763

>>28273958
there's no suspension, anon use this

>>28273958
>>28274220
oops, this

>>28269298
What I find oddly suggestive is that the other new vshojo member is an angel.
I mean come the fuck on. She could've chosen anything else.
It's a message.
That or kson intended that model for Kanata but the latter refused to jump ship after this was sprung on her all of a sudden.

>>28272097
>so it's more likely Cover did it in response to Kson
I doubt that honestly. The way cover seems to move a the pace of uphill molasses they've likely had this shit in the works for months after a year+ of people screeching at them
>where's hololive summer REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>28274624
Sir that is Rushia sir, She always like to change model from Necromancer to Catgirl what not, But it does seem like she enjoys Catgirl.

>>28274624
nah, that's a stretch if anything mike as dabbing on the leech, by making her model, silver said she made it herself(was all in in creation process) but you can believe what you want.

>the year is 2033
>watching kson streaming
>she has an an important announcement
>she says it's her 10 year anniversary
>she tells chat that she's had a wife for a decade now
>everyone thinks it's a joke, she plays around like that
>a familiar voice speaks up
>chat spams surprised or crying emotes
>kanacoco enjoyers won
>they ate dirt but they won in the end

>>28269298
Because everyone who was actually there heard them having a big fight. Kanata was heartbroken that kson not only betrayed her, but kept it hidden for so long. She had no clue up until the reveal.

>>28275379
you were there?

>>28275188
I don’t get it

>>28275433
Yes, me and my Japanese friends who live near their apartment. You could easily hear it.

>>28269398
Castrate yourself, you fucking chink bugman.

>>28275651
>friends
Suureee

>>28275651
cool, but you should really stop listening to the voices in your head

>company wars
you fags are no better than /v/

>>28275822
>>28275837
>t. never heard of expats

>>28276048
You mean weebs, migrants, and ladyboy fuckers?

>>28270841
>This doesn't apply but it is why Mike is lucky VShojoJP is incorporated in Japan under Kson's name instead of having Gun or Melody's name anywhere on the legal documents.
Alright. I'll bite. How much of this is actually true?

>>28269398
Nigga why the fuck are you ignoring the fact Michael cat joining kikeson's new corpo played a huge factor in Kanata bailing out of the apartment?

>>28276601
There's no evidence to suggest that's true. It definitely has more to do with Kson having some form of managerial power in the JP branch that most likely scared Cover.

>>28276601
Occam's Razor faggot, do you know it? This shit is a reach, the simplest answer is usually the correct one, and the most simple fact is concerning operational security concerns between people living with each other working for rival companies. Others have already pointed out that any leaks that occur WILL be blamed on the couple engaging in this relationship regardless the reality of the matter. It's in their own best interest to separate so that's not a possibility.

People don't have to live with other people for the rest of their lives. In fact, that's unhealthy.

Live on your own, be your own person. If a friendship can't survive living apart from each other, it sucks, but that's just the way life goes.

>>28269398
Artia-sama.... I kneel....

>>28269398
Based. Artia was right. Comrade Xi, launch the nukes and wipe Cuckmerica off the face of the Earth.

>>28270454
>cover threatens your career
>it's someone elses fault
top fucking kek

>>28269298
Real talk, were Katana and Coco in a lesbo relationship? Kson once said that she took her "friend" to a vacation and the implication was they were staying in the same room as a couple.

>>28277657
Anon, its normal for friends to share room and go on trips together.. they dont need to be in a sexual relationship.

>>28269298
China did nothing wrong
KSON HATE

>>28275188
Keep telling yourself that, Anon. Why would Kanata stay with the person who joined the enemy and then tried to guilt her away from her idol dream with a model that looks like a rip off of her current one?

>>28269398
/thread.

>>28269398
I hate traitors but that doesn't mean I am going to love filthy bugs.

>>28269298
any potentialy off colab with a black listed vengeful menhera ex member who was fired for break NDA is high risk not just for cover but also for kanata. if something spicy leaks she will be the main suspect for her connection with rushia and a rival company.
I can't belived kson was so fool to think her action wouldn't have any consecuences

>>28270942
Pink cat barely fucking streams.
God you people are such sad bitter fucks, pink cat washed her hands off this place and you faggots just can't let it go, that's why she's making money and getting dicked down and you're sitting here being a loser.
>>28272404
Shit man I hope so. What happened when the gay dude showed up at that niji off collab was merely a preview of the shitstorm we'll get with the Holo girls.
Or when Ollie just thinking of planning something with IRyS involved made people go apeshit.
>>28272687
Actually rent fucking free, holy shit, I understand why you guys hate NijiEN tho, they actually stream.

>>28281489
You don't have to love them, but they were right about Coco

Her upcoming song cover has a mask referencing Coco. Is it because she still likes her or is it because it was too late to commission new art?

>>28283897
Always liked her and never stopped, she was forced to move out by Cover

>>28284542
>forced

>>28283897
don't the covers need months to make? with the main problem is miguel gato not kson , at all , their friendship it's not broken yet

Just imagine the shitstorm if Mikeneko/Nazuna announced she's moving in with Kson
>Nazuna is even an Angel just like Kanata
Maybe Coco was the Judas all along not Artia

>>28281957
>that's why she's making money and getting dicked down and you're sitting here being a loser
I mean, I concur, but they're still one tier of loser lower than the donos who knowingly pay for their condoms.

>>28269298
The fags in this thread talking shit about kson and kanata don't even watch their streams.
I'm 100% sure they don't even know that kanata and kson are going on a trip at the end of the month.

>>28286686
It could have been a holo special trip, but now it will be awkward because one friend is not loyal anymore.

>>28269945
It's not about "rivalry", it's about her bringing that leaker slut around the house

>>28270665
>guys I swear we're still on great terms after I forced her out of the house because I chose to work with someone who betrayed all of her friends
Yeah, not covering for her own bullshit or anything

>>28291030
Kson does not care about her legacy, she threw it away for whores and left Kanata to suffer as a result

>>28290746
Kanata is the leaker slut?

>>28269298
I hate vshojo more than I hate the chinks so the enemy of my enemy is my friend

>>28269398
based zhang

>>28292046
Well, Kanata likes to suffer, it's basically her identity.

Chink LARPers should get the rope.

>>28299396
chinks will turn on vshojo

>>28281897
All this seething over kson makes me think fandead are behind this chink brigade as deflection from the true threat

>>28269298
People don't want to hate what they love, simple as that. Reality or nuance doesn't matter.

>>28269298
>Why do people blame Kson for Kanata moving out?
Do people really blame Kson?

>>28303923
read the thread

>>28269398
The zhangs were right all along.
I kneel

>>28281897
>Vengeful Menhere Ex Member
yet somehow she gets picked up. I really dont understand what Vshojo is thinking ahout. Probably profits over Talents.

>>28272097
Not even a vshojo thing, she'd been hinting that she'd have a swimsuit for the summer all the way back since late last year, long before she even considered joining.

kanacoco is old news, the future is nazukson

>>28281957
>Pink cat barely fucking streams.
>God you people are such sad bitter fucks
What you said has absolutely nothing to do with the video I posted, you probably don't even understand the point I was making. God vshojo cucks are so retarded.

>>28272806
>unlike you people who have parasocial relationships with a jpeg
You don't get to say this when you have fucking Rushia join your company. They're not just parasocial, they claim to be literally married to her.

>>28310734
fucking take the menhera gfe dude i could care less. Who wants a mess of a talent that could potentially fuck everyone's rep

>>28313228
>Who wants a mess of a talent that could potentially fuck everyone's rep
Vshojo does lmao

>bumping this thread from page 10 constantly
Op has hands full of work i see

>>28269777
>was not telling Kanata about her decision
Where the fuck does that rrat come from again? If anything the Kson membership message implies the opposite

>>28270841
>>Mike's new character is basically just an extra loli Kanata
Really? Puppeteer's art makes her look older to me.

>>28283897
Remember how that one song featured Rushia after her termination? Same thing.

>>28283897
If you're going to make week old shitposts about her at least listen to her song friends
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJSur7yNKTc
>>28285044
Her tweet said it's been in limbo since January

>>28314914
Marine's newest orisong? She explicitly stated onstream that she wanted Rushia to stay in the MV.

>>28277657
According to everything they talk about each other i’d say they’re closer than many actual Japanese couples. I don’t think they’re actually dating but they’re as close as they can be without doing so. Their families already know about the other as well, and Kson’s family has long given up on their daughter ever marrying someone so that says a lot as well.

>>28269298
>Shouldnt you blame Cover corp for being unbased afraid of "hearing competitors voice"
They aren't afraid of hearing another voice. It's Coco abandoning kayfabe to become an IRL common whore that's the problem. Coco might not care, but when you're a group who don't expose their own identity, Coco has gone a step too far, which could allow people to follow her right back to Kanata.

>>28315356
>She explicitly stated onstream that she wanted Rushia to stay in the MV.
>explicitly
Nothing about it was explicit. She didn't even mention Rushia except for the part where she said it was during Rushia's birthday stream where she said it's her dream to have 3rd gen to appear as anime and that she had now accomplished that.
There was no mention of "Rushia staying in the MV". There was no talk of removing her in the first place. She's there because the work was already done.

>>28271187
>Can't be together because they are rivals
Romeo...Juliet...

>>28269398
>Knelt to the chinese
And there it is… the source of all this bait spam of course

>>28317812
She was an IRL streamer for the whole time she spent in hololive so it was always a potential concern with her but it was never a problem for anybody.

>>28271642
>sane post
This. If anything from Cover ever got leaked to Vshojo in the future, the first one to be suspected will be Kanata if she is still living with Kson

>>28269398
This. Joining Vshit was her choice.

>>28318585
Yes, but joining vshojo she took it to a level beyond just "streaming as herself at home".

>>28319507
It doesn't increase the risk of being followed home by a stranger. It increases potential security risks inside of that home where you'd have Kanata's PC with all of her work stuff just sitting there.

>>28272806
>unlike you people who have parasocial relationships with a jpeg
Bad news for you anon
The queen of GFE is joining and bringing in people who have parasocial relationships with a jpeg
Maybe her "engagement ring" merch will finally take off this time

>>28317812
Another thing that I didn't see addressed as much, offcollabs would become real weird and difficult to plan if they still stayed together, Mike going at their place would probably be a massive red flag for Hololive and other holos going visiting would probably have to be more careful than they otherwise would.

>>28315066
So it was designed when "Coco" was still living with her, before "Coco" kicked her out in favor of a new and improved angel.

Why didn't Kanata just resigned from Cover if she wanted to stay with kson. Kanata could just join vshoujo. Pretty sure Kanata would be accepted. Imagine a former hololive and a former utaite joining their ranks. Kanata would be a star if she joins Vshoujo.

>>28322741
Because kanata wants to be an idol that she never got to be if you do your reps and know her roomate you know why she badly wants this
The best place for this is obviously holo

>>28322844
Vshojo JP will have idols

>>28322893
If they manage to fish gibara and notlulu maybe but vshojo itself isnt really catered for idol culture they promote “talent freedom” has toilet and porn humor left and right and dont even do “generations” for new debuts because they dont want anything to do with idols and want to promote talent as an individual.
This is why it baffles me that holofags are so threatened by vshojo because they cater to entirely different fandoms

>>28323100 (me)
Heck they employed nyanner’s boyfriend as vshojo staff and outright include him on main channel clips sometimes
Holofans would have a stroke if gura, mumei, ame or fauna did that

>>28322893
Idol in name.
What's the point of an idol without the heart?
It's not just about singing and dancing. It's about the relationship between fan and idol. It's about loyalty to the people that cheer you on. The loyalty to her roots goes way deeper than these corp hating commies realize.
Not even to mention, she's got way more friends at hololive than just kson. As much as the ksonkikes want to ignore that.

Fucking neck yourself kekson jew.

>>28269298
Cover is the only based Vtuber agency right now and they proved it multiple times, even firing their whore cash cow R****a to protect their reputation

kson is just another whore who decided that reading memes once a week wasn't degrading enough and left to go down on melody on stream and show her IRL cunt for views..

>>28269398
>should have just knelt to the Chinese
Never, no american worth their freedom should ever consider that not even as a joke

>>28327972
americans are kneeling to jews, faggots, niggers, trannies... honestly kneeling to the Chinese might be an upgrade for them

>>28322893
Lol lmao

>>28269398
/thread

>>28328441
They just hired an Idol Producer to be Manager & Talent Instructor for VShojoJP, anon

>>28329154
>now let's give it up for Kson!!
>SLAM SLAM SLAM SLAM
>huff huff minna! huff GOOD MORNING MOTHERhuffFUCKERS
>starts twerking
>Mikeneko joins in and starts spinning on the spot
This will be what the kids call cringekino

>>28325170
>What's the point of an idol without the heart?
Applies the same to Cover. You don't even own yourself, you don't own your own creations. When you leave any so-called achievements and relationships you've built belongs to them, not you.

>>28301345
>chinks send their wumao bugbrains to attack vshojo
>vshojo sends their twitter trannies to attack chinks
I want to see this ALL OUT WAR. But Vshojo already demonstrated they ain't afraid of bugmen. Nyanners' own artist tried to cancel them and they were like, 'lmao'.

>>28329622
You can't understand because everything is transactional to you. All corporate business and deals. To see as an idolfag you need to look at the emotional sentiment. Hololive is seen as a home. Rushia's termination is not enough for holofags to turn that idea around. So she plans on staying forever, nulling any rights argument.

>>28322741
>resign from the biggest vtubing company on the planet with has all her other friends and colleagues that's she's been a part of for years, does concerts and songs with, where leaving might ruin her career if whatever new channel/name/design is murdered by the algorithm

>>28330852
>All corporate business and deals
And not being able to own your own creations and works of art isn't? I hate Vshojo for its culture, but they do have a point on the ownership problem. If I can't take my achievements to my grave, I won't even bother achieving something and just pull a Sana/Ayame.

>>28327444
anon im sorry to say the janis got you

>>28325170
Its about brainwashing your audience to unconditionally love you autistically that you spaz out and slit your own wrists when u hear a male voice in the background

>>28269298
She chose VEIBAE over HER OWN ROOM MATE.

And apparently kson is very butthurt people are making fun of her joining THE COMPANY.

>>28318451
Probably something else related to unintentional sound leaks and things like that. Living in the same house wouldn-t be a problem if their rigs was elsewhere I think.

>>28322741
Why couldn't kson stay away from VShojo if she wanted to stay with Kanata?
She was doing just fine for an indie. But it wasn't enough.
kson is the problem here, her decision is the problem, her viewpoint is the problem, her alignment is the problem, and her greed forced Kanata to draw a line.

Kanata did nothing different from what she's done for the past 30 months, and now she gets kicked out of her own home because kson wanted to flash her tits around on twitch and get a better cut on merch or something. Then she goes and immediately tries her best to salvage her most faithful fans confidence with a member stream.
Embarrassing.

>>28339657
>And apparently kson is very butthurt people are making fun of her joining THE COMPANY.
I really hope antis go all out. Burn this shit to the ground.

>>28325170
>sanest holofaggot
KEK