/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

I'm sceptical, uproar was doa, vox is carried by china but I don't know by how much, they will need a big name

All evidence points to Tempus being holostars-tier niche market that doesn't even do as well as Council. They have no holobuff, no fresh market advantage like Myth did, and no Chinese audience. Cover can shill them with the girls all they want and all they'll achieve is lower viewership for everyone

Holostars EN will average 2-3k ccv max after debut, probably dropping off to 1k or 3view territory. They will be 0 threat to Nijisanji

>>28246971
I don't think they can replicate Vox's success, the resource might be depleted.

I belieb

>>28246971
No. Don't worry nijisis. Holochads will not watch them.

>>28246971
The end of Nijiboys except vox because he will whoring himself to the fullest.

Nijisanji boys are too big to fail. They're the only ones who can ruin themselves

>>28246971
Yes because Hololive's audience is full of females thursting for the boys

>>28246971
>end for Vox Akuma and the rest of the nijiboys
You do realize it will be the same for council, right?
Seriously, this argument is like saying Uproar can be any threat to Kuzuha.

not really holostars cant do service for the chinese, so they're already half as good

>>28249569
As much as a holofag i am, i have hard time disagreeing with that.
Either our boys snatch a god chunk of their audience, who is unlickely, or your prediction is an optimistic one.

Luxiem will be to Tempus what Myth is to the NijiEN girls.

>>28246971
Don't worry holokeks, the Leech will come and save your new males from being 2views

>>28246971
Cant say so but I guarantee vox formula is what all of them will repeat. This guy is a target

>>28246971
Doubtful unless Hololive lets Tempus do ASMR Rape roleplay. Which I dont expect to happen.

>>28246971
Doubt it, hololive fans are in it for the idol culture and their virgin fantasies, guys ruin the image even if they do simerlar stuff

Niji en guys meanwhile don't have that tag

>>28246971
Holobro here and being realistic, no.

It all points that Holotempus is another male Holonepotism branch, just as the current Holostars, BUT, if at least 2 of them are good singers, i'll retract what i said just now, however at the same time, if they are just retarded FPS players >>>/trash/. There also a huge possibility that they are indeed HoloEN "acquaintances"(Using this term to not trigger trannies) due to the absence of streams, showing they were assisting their "acquaintances" all this time in the backscenes.

Mark my words, if a HoloEN that was innactive suddenly becomes active after their debut, my condolences to their fanbase.
For last, the only vtuber sphere that is currently with a demand, is the BFE/GFE (JP) every other is one is saturated including EN(Excluding China because i don't give a F about them.)

>>28251472
>There also a huge possibility that they are indeed HoloEN "acquaintances"(Using this term to not trigger trannies) due to the absence of streams, showing they were assisting their "acquaintances" all this time in the backscenes.
Makes sense. Sana must have been the public toilet of StarsEN then, which is why she broke her back. You might be onto something Anon.
I rate this post ogey/rrat

>>28246971
Lol, stars rejects

>>28246971
No. Tempus will flop like a motherfucker. Manjisanji is safe.

Cover is awful at promotions so Vox is safe. Shu dodged a bullet by being rejected.

Uproar their promotion was a limo in Akiba. Tempus their promotion is a reddit thread that doesn't even have a link to their trailer. Even Omega did a better job with Council.

>>28251472
>Mark my words, if a HoloEN that was innactive suddenly becomes active after their debut, my condolences to their fanbase.
They'll just continue to cope eternally, I've seen enough anons fighting with their sunk cost today I'm sure there's no limit in how much someone can endure if they're depressed enough.

>>28251472
>due to the absence of streams, showing they were assisting their "acquaintances" all this time in the backscenes.
This is actually likely.

>>28246971
God I hope so, the only thing that can save EN now is insane femzhangs demanding gay buttsex.

>>28246971
>Is holotempus the end for Vox Akuma and the rest of the nijiboys?

No, because Niji's audience is Chinese. The 'Nijizhangji' nickname is not a joke. HoloTempus's audience will be every other nation EXCEPT China, so Niji keeps their niche.

>>28254582
Sounds retarded we know the zhangs still watch hololive.

>>28254626
Taiwanese still watch Hololive you mean.

They could absolutely mog Luxiem in views but I'd still never abandon my oshi.

>the next catalog arc is closeted homos supporting males over their petty corporate shitflinging

>>28246971
I doubt it. It'll have the usual new-gen buff, but will peter out quickly since most genuine vtuber viewers are men looking for women. Cover is dead to the Chinese market, so Vox's base will be relatively untouched. Cover is far too late to the EN male market, and has a tarnished reputation in one of the biggest markets.

>>28246971
No but it means I can finally have male corpo chuubas that don't constantly act gross to watch instead so that will be nice.

>>28255174
haahaha lol they'll be told to copy luxium ir get booted off, bro tubers DO NOT MAKE MONEY

>>28246971
If holotempus does bad, they will laugh at cover.
If holotempus does good, they will act like they invented the market on ENboys.
All memes aside, they will do okay, nothing crazy, since the market is stale already. Won't have much of an effect on the Nijiboys numbers.

>>28246971
Who knows? If they can collab with Gura then it's not looking good for Niji

>>28246971
Vox mostly panders to crazy chink fujos, so no

>>28246971
They'll need a miracle to not be DoA, and even if that does happen they won't kill Vox. They'll merely exist alongside him.

>>28255253
>spoiler
Not even worth telling you to do your reps with that obvious bait anon

>>28246971
Lets see if they can even beat their senpai first

Unless holotempus speak both english and japanese so they can farm both EN and JP they will flop.
Initial success will be better than noctyx and maybe luxiem, but they will not reach Vox level

>>28255253
StarsJP are watchable at least compared to Vox and his rape blowjob asmr streams.

>>28255689
They won't even come close to the worst performer in Noctyx let alone anything in Luxiem.

>>28254781
Chinese using Taiwan vpns you mean which is the truly funny part about it.

No. Luxiem already has big and dedicated fanbase. If they don’t have someone with incredible unique trait that could differentiate them from other male vtubers, at best they will probably end up like Noctyx.

>>28246971
even if they're unequivocally better vtubers and talents than all of the nijien guys they're not going to perform even half as well. no one is delusional enough to seriously expect them to break 3k, generously, with any regularity. We'll be lucky if they all break 1k consistently

>>28249569
>>28250111

Agree, a lot of their future is depending on their designs imo

It's not the end but there will be a drop-off. There is demand for corpo male chuubas that are just chill, and a lot of the drama and the chaotic fanbase of NijiEN will and has turned some fans away. Tempus will absorb people who want a refreshing change of pace, a smaller and more relaxed vibe, and less drama overall.

>>28246971
>no chinkfujo fanbase to lean on
lol no, but that might end up being a good thing since they might be more brotuber than fujobait.

>>28246971
There is no such thing called a western female fanbase that interested in vtuber, you still have to reach chink , SEA, asians audience , the only way they can win against niji is they stealing these fanbases from them

>>28255774
They will, hololive especially EN is a buff, they'll probably have subs anywhere between 75k-200k for the first week just because of the holo brand.

>>28256139
>>28255916

>>28256281
Well in that case it sound exactly like HolostarJP , another Uproar but EN

only looking for holostarsEN to vaporize unicorns tbqh

>>28251472
>Mark my words, if a HoloEN that was innactive suddenly becomes active after their debut, my condolences to their fanbase.
Gura..... please don't stream.

Shoto will singlehandly save Tempus

>>28256632
Tempussister...

>>28257422
Tempussy

>>28246971
considering that NijiCN is only popular because of bugwomen, there is no way Holo can compete

>>28255916
There are already luxiem and Noctyx members that fill that niche like Shu and Ike. I guess if your only example is Vox that would make more sense, and less to an extent Mysta.

>>28246971
No. Just like chuuba enjoyers watch more than one girl fujos will just be watching more guys

hopefully it doesn't get to the point where vox thots were

>>28261610
China isn't the only reason they're popular, the entire asian region is a fan of them. I know Mysta has a lot of SEA fans while Shu has a lot of Japanese fans. So it's a little more complicated than just chinese fans.

They´ll be a flop just like HomoJP always is. NOBODY fucking wants to watch male vtubers except chinese fujos and no chink watches Hololive anymore.

>>28246971
No, they'll flop hard because Hololive will basically suppress them from the start.

I hope both groups collab. That would be genuinely interesting lol.

>>28246971
Males will find success from either being in niji or an indie. Holostars is a death sentence for any male tuber that wants a successful future.

>>28262152
Shu and Ike are still attached to their gen and their group. It's not the same.

>>28246971
If they do quality BFE like Vox, I'll give them a look. If they try to be brotubers, I'm dropping them. Let them have their paltry m*le 1,000 viewer audience.

Otherwise, I'm loyal to Luxiem. I don't know what was going on with Noctyx but it was overall messy and their debut did not take me away from my Luxiem favorites.

>>28266418
Pomu can't collab with Kiara. How are the homos going to be able to?

They need to sort this bullshit out and let all of them collab. Better than forced vshitshow collabs nobody wants.

>>28246971
Their trailer has dismal views. Holofags don't care about homos and Nijifans could barely stretch to watch Noctyx so they're not going to save them.

The power of male chuubas is that they can exceed where the female brain cannot, if Hololive demands the same limiters as the rest of the branch then they will be stifled and lost.
The design silhouettes also dont look too interesting either

>>28249304
Vox has declined since reimugate, think most of them jumped ship mostly to twitch indies like shoto.

What if HomoEN collabs with NijiEN girls?

Honestly, if tempus follows the lead of Myth and Council (i.e. barely ever stream, super low energy when they actually do stream except for Kiara, awkward and boring as hell collabs) then I don't really see them doing too well to be honest

>>28246971
I am interested in them so long as they don't have someone as menhera and disgusting as Vox as a central figure.

>>28266418
Niji will never let holo leech off them again after holo refuse to let them leech of holoEN when Lazulight debut

>>28268114
If they don't have someone like Vox as their leader, I'm dropping them. Male opinions on male vtubers don't matter. They are either made or destroyed by female viewership.

>>28268343
Only niji needs leeching kek

>>28268400
ogey bye

For everyone who wants them to be "brotubers", riddle me this:
"Brotubers" (in the west) mostly don't exist because there's simply no "need" for them, the market dynamics of the audiences just doesn't add up.

There are already more than enough traditional dudebro style facestreamers, so that male audiences (because female audiences don't care for "brotubers" anyway, it's almost exclusively a male wish fantasy) who want a "bro" can already watch those - and they already are, as Twitch etc streaming charts show no shortage of dudebro streamers.
No one in the male audience is "waiting" for a bro-Vtuber, as if it's a fix they couldn't get elsewhere. If they want the bro-experience, they would already just watch the many normal bro-streamers, and the venn diagram of people who "want to watch a bro streamer" and "but he also needs to have an anime avatar!" has very little overlap. The anime avatar adds very little to a male, because unlike females who are much more judged on their visuals (so not-as-good-looking girls can at least hide behind a cute anime avatar to still draw in the males), you can be a sweaty unwashed neckbeard streamer and still be successfull.
And again, the female audience who watches male vtubers doesn't really care for "bro-tubers" either, they are watching them for a different reason, so the type of male vtubers that appeal to them will also be different than what 4ch considers an acceptable "brotuber"

With female vtubers, they at least had a purpose for male audiences that fulfilled a previously underserved market niche. Men who wanted to watch female streamers BUT also not want them to be the typical twitch thots that were previously pretty much the only option. Female vtubers, especially corpo-restricted ones like the relatively seiso Hololive, offered them a welcome reprieve, girls behind the avatar who had to rely more on their natural cuteness and entertainment quality, instead of just being vapid rl cunts whose only talent was letting their tits hang out of a low top.

>>28256139
>there are no western nerd girls
do u really believ

>>28246971
it's the beginning of a beautiful friendship

As long as hololive doesn't pretend to be queer like niji does to get the fag fanbase they have

>>28246971
I doubt it. Large chunk of the fujo viewerbase is chinks, so StarsEN either goes for them and maybe swipes 20% of the Luxiem fans, or they go for a different niche and don't really overlap much. And if the unicorn meltdown is anything to go by, the holo buff might not help much.
Personally, I just hope they aren't all Brits.

>>28246971
The vox killers presentation video have less views than the average vox video so i think he is safe

>>28246971
more like the end of holoEN

>>28246971
>Is holotempus the end for Vox Akuma
I fucking hope but no because the chinese are their biggest buff.
They'd need to do a Taiwan tier yab and not kneel for the Holomen to every surpass them

>>28255961
the job listing that was looking for EN managers implies that they're looking for people that know how to appeal to women. So that's not happening.

>>28266997
Holy fucking BASED and same

>>28254115
The limo happened after Uproar debuted.

>>28246971
The Nijiboys are too established at this point, they consistently pull better numbers than the Nijigirls lmao.

Hololive has a massive advantage on the GFE and cute girl market but its possible that Niji has just as big of an advantage pandering to fujo's thanks to not pissing off west taiwan, Its too soon to say for sure but I'm confident homolive EN will struggle, if they've got talent they could get their own niche but they're not dethroning vox.

So holofags, we know the general view of holomales in /vt/ but they are just the schizos minority. Any prediction on how well the En holomales will do based on the general opinion of the outside holo fans?

>>28267466
Please do not imply Shoto's viewers are in any way, shape, or form related to Nijisanji.

He'll make a 2 minute long crying tweet about it if you do!

>>28246971
>Is holotempus the end for Vox Akuma and the rest of the nijiboys?
No, why would it.

>>28279144
Higher end Holostars numbers. Roberu or Astel tier, but not more.

>>28281536
So that's like what? 1k CCV? Pretty good especially if you're a former 2view 10-15 CCV streamer.

>>28256228
>they'll probably have subs anywhere between 75k-200k for the first week just because of the holo brand
>Debut PV can't even break 100K in the first day and the tweets getting only around 40K likes
Holo brand is an abusulute DEBUFF to any male.

>>28246971
it's the end for vtubing as a whole. Kobo was the unironic high water mark as the bubble burst.

Your time is over nijiniggers. These men will have Salome tier numbers for a month and will stabilize at 40k to 50k viewers per stream. They will also collab with StarsJP and make them incline to 10k to 20k viewers per stream. All while niji males become sub 10k shitters (a lot of them already are) further proving that Hololive > nishitsanji.

not the end, but it will feel like that to them after all the shit they talked.
No I don't feel sorry for them. Yes I did give them a shot, but they're just typical seething narcissistic westoids.

>>28246971
The end for Vox was and always will be himself.

>>28282971
unironically this, though I hope he goes out with a group masturbation stream, telling his viewers to all masturbate along with him.

>>28281935
Yeah it will be fine. No one cared what shitters think anyways

>>28249599
Do you really?

>people thinking vox declined
>>>>>>

>>28282671
Please stop falseflagging, or if you are gonna falseflag make sure you falseflag with a picture of Ina.

I think Luxiem is afraid of the gang bang between the new Niji JP males and Stars EN. On the other hand JP men just won't have the accents or mindset western men have. Stars EN members have to be STRONG to get a stable 1k viewership.

It's funny, if they were successful it would not only fuck over holoEN but also nijiEN males
Rooting for them

>>28246971
It will depend on their design, voice, and unfortunately their past lives on if they get a debut buff. So basically if male Gura happens.

>>28285892
>Male Gura.

>>28266997
Holy based

>>28246971
Nobody fucking watches holo stars kek
Twittards just support it to further their want for idol culture to die. They don't even sub just so long as it meets their demand

I hope that both Nijisanji and Hololive die because of this and that we enter a new dark age for vtubers. Then all the casual viewers and tourists can finally be gone.

>>28246971
Will Holotempus compete for the Chinese audience?

>>28299518
They will compete for the female talents.

>>28249532
they have slight holobuff, not to the same levels as the girls but the brand still buffs them more then a standard indie.