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>13k viewers max on an outfit reveal
>Earned less money than Oga did during his most recent outfit reveal
What happened to Kson? Did the Vshojo branding kill her career? Is Vshojo Japan dead on arrival? This isn't normal.

>> No.28156382

A few months ago people here mocked /vt/sisters. Now it feels like every thread on the catalog is made by a /vt/sister.
What happened to /vt/?

>> No.28156404

>>28156253
I think women in Vshojo don't have freedom. I think they force them to be whores

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>>28156253
>reusing literally the same thread from yesterday
/vt/ sisters what happened?

>> No.28156491

>>28156253
Her fans are Holofags and Holofags hate Vshojo(actually they fucking hate everyone other than Honorary Holo like Ui-mama and Hoshikawa/Inui Toko)
>Did the Vshojo branding kill her career?
Unironically yes.

>> No.28156497

>>28156253
Kson only gets a lot of superchats when she does SC readings, the outfit reveal didn't have one. Her real big SC streams are karaoke streams.

>> No.28156571

>>28156468
Vtsister is the least creative bunch in this board considering their creative freedom.

>> No.28156588

>>28156497
Still doesn't explain that she has less views than ID playing holocure for a fucking outfit reveal.

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>>28156571
kek

>> No.28156623

>>28156382
Now? It feels like that to you now? Where have you been anon

>> No.28156648

>>28156588
she is not a part of holoimperium with their faithful drones, not to mention, dumb bitch leaked her outfit

>> No.28156676

>>28156468
/vt/ is displaying the same creative freedom Vslutjos have by recycling the same reactions to the same content.

>> No.28156804

>>28156588
None of ID broke 10k with holocure.
If you want to compare than do it with Towa that beat Kson by playing Fall Guys.

>> No.28156866

>>28156588
She got 4-5x her typical views.

>> No.28157059

>>28156588
Irohas minecraft stream at the same time peaked just 200 less than kson did
https://playboard.co/en/video/x1UuYCFMi1E

>> No.28157384

>>28156253
I haven't kept up with her in ages and assumed the new outfit thing was just another Project Melody relaunch from the thumbnails.
But yeah, her joining Vshojo is disappointing. Most of them are fucking insufferable and they even let in some faggot using a text to speech program. Seriously, if Zen passes then I don't see why more guys just don't take this cynical approach and do it too.

>> No.28157621

>>28156253
>kanata moving out
>bringing in mike as a co-gen
>joining new corp (I don't give a shit about the semantics of it)
rrats aside she essentially cut ties with a huge number holo fans who still cared about her in one fell swoop

>> No.28157935

-10000 viewers
+10000 creative freedom

>> No.28158110

>>28156253
Everybody in the chat was busy jerking off. She even got more supas during her LA Anime expo stream because then, people weren't already using their hands for anything else.

>> No.28158167

>>28158110
can confirm

>> No.28158222

>>28156253
>Did the Vshojo branding kill her career?
While this might seem like the easiest answer, in my opinion you have cause and effect reversed. Vshojo didn't kill her career; Her career's downward trend is why she has turned to Vshojo. It's a desperate hail mary after she's slowly been falling out of relevance for months. That might sound cruel, but hear me out.

Tons of people followed her after she graduated Hololive, but many of them eventually stopped watching her. Not because "she's Not Hololive so people must hate her", as the SJWs from twitter keep proclaiming. No. People idolized Coco for the creation of EN, and the fact that she martyred herself to fight against the chink menace was revered. That reverence extended to her even after she graduated. Cover even made it clear she was free to return if she wanted. So any claims of her not being part of "the network" are nonsensical in the first place. Her decline was simply because viewers realized her content wasn't actually that entertaining on its own. Her humor only funny because it was so different than what people expected from an "Idol Company". Humor thrives under the defiance of people's expectations. If you know what a joke's punchline is, it isn't funny is it? Once she was an independent people didn't have those seiso expectations and her crass humor fell flat. It didn't help that she continued doing basically the same shit she already did with some added gunpla building. There are only so many Ark streams a man can stomach. Her content grew stale so people stopped watching. There is no big conspiracy or hate crime here. She just isn't very entertaining, so she's looking for a new audience that might think differently.

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>>28156676
fucking kek

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>>28157384
Rent free

>> No.28158405

>>28156676
>longer streams then holoshits, plays more games and overall better models, additionally getting a ton of holos get mogged by them for example >>28158281

>> No.28158492

why do you keep flooding the board with kson threads?
Is this raid some sort of guerilla marketing launched by vshojo?

>> No.28158532

>>28158492
Then they're fucking terrible at marketing, I couldn't be avoiding them more than I already am If I tried

>> No.28158542

>>28158222
>Her humor only funny because it was so different than what people expected from an "Idol Company"

This is why Meme Review is really popular back then.
The memes are very generic but because the meme is about the hologirls, it became funnier specially when they start learning the meaning behind the memes about them

So when Kson starts her solo meme review, it was so stale/generic/bland that alot of people just didnt bother.

The alure of making meme about an Idol Hologirl is the reason Cocos meme review is good not because Coco herself.

>> No.28158572

>>28158532
check the archive, this is the same fucking thread from yesterday OP just changed some wordings

>> No.28158621

>>28158281
I can't even tell the point you're trying to make with that. If you can stop being self-satisfied that you've totally got me with whatever you posted would you mind explaining the pointless jpg?

>> No.28158915

>>28158281
>about to get passed by ID and an inactive channel
This isn't the own you think it is.

>> No.28158971

>>28158281
I honestly don't know why you keep thinking it is a big win for you to have a few Vshojos in a sea of Holo/Nijis, but it's cute. Real talk though, subs are a terrible metric, and I'm not just saying that as someone that disagrees with the point I *think* you are attempting to make. Lots of people sub, stop watching, and never unsubscribe from channels. That goes for Holos, Nijis, smaller corps and independents. Gura has 4 million subs but nobody sane is objectively using that as evidence that she is the best vtuber in the world. Use a more relevant chart, like Superchats and/or average CCV, from the last 6 months to a year so people can't argue it is irrelevant shit from the distance past. That's just my advice if you want to make a real point though. What you are doing right now just leaves people confused as to what your point is, and I know many are suspecting you might be mentally handicapped.

>> No.28159377

>>28158222
That's the thing: She worked perfectly as a foil for the Holo cast, but with VShojo, she's just surrounding herself with people with similar sense of humor.

>> No.28159384

>>28158492
There have been shills making threads since the announcement started yes. It's been pretty obvious for a while now. Some of them tried to make "good" points but some of them couldn't even tell which company a talent was from when trying to attack them. Like the one who tried to use Chaika as a gotcha for "it being okay when Hololive does it". There's also an ongoing raid of SJWs who have rallied behind the banner that Cover is evil incarnate and using women as slave labor. Probably because they were the only people who fell for the Vshojo shills' marketing campaign. Those ones are extremely obvious because they can't back up any statements they make and just call you a corporate bootlicker incel while sticking their fingers in their ears when you give evidence they are wrong.

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>>28156253

>> No.28159462

>>28159384
Holy rent free

>> No.28159562

>>28159384
>Like the one who tried to use Chaika as a gotcha for "it being okay when Hololive does it".
Wait. What? Did they really did this?

>> No.28159601

Its nearly been a week and fags are still seething? Holy shit vshojos living rent free

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>>28159562

>> No.28159673

>>28159601
>discussing something that happened less than 24 hours ago which is on topic
>HOLY SHIT STOP FUCKING TALKING ABOUT VSHOJO YOU'RE MAKING THEM LOOK BAD BY STATING FACTS RENT FREE

>> No.28159750

>>28156253
Isn't this like the fourth thread about this?

>> No.28159795

>>28159662
It's yes or no question retard. Your pic is not an answer.

>> No.28159808

>>28156382
Women will be women, it was only a matter of time. What's sad is that because of group like Vshojo the vtubing magic is permanently gone.

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>>28156253
Kson... Less relevant than one of the most irrelevant Nijien girls...

>> No.28160101

>>28157935
-50000$

>> No.28160184

>>28158222
>Coco matyred against Chinks
So which is it? Cocofags started saying Cover forced her out, the other said she sacrificed herself? Why can't you goofs pick one story and stick with it and not change it every 5 seconds.

>>28158542
>Meme review popular
>popular
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Now I know you didn't watch her.

>> No.28160194

>>28156253
Kson built her her reputation on the Vtuber Jesus meme. Vshojo killed that and exposed her as a lying whore.

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>>28160184
>>Meme review popular
>>popular
>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>Now I know you didn't watch her.
Kill yourself ?

>> No.28160492

>>28156382
which timeline did you come from?

>> No.28160604

>>28160184
I don't think anyone actually believes she was told to gtfo. There would have been no reason to kill HoloCN if they were going to do that. Some tatsunokos felt like she was stifled for a long time and that lead to her eventually leaving. Which is honestly a bit true. I don't think it was entirely a Cover decision though. At least with the JP branch she clearly still had the ability to do collabs. I'm of the opinion that she just chose not to do them often because she had a giant target on her back and didn't want the chinks going after the rest of her coworkers. Every time she showed up or was mentioned on someone else's stream they mass botted the chat for weeks. EN is a different story. Management absolutely did not let her collab with EN until she announced her graduation. They didn't want to risk the new branch being drowned in a wave of bugs. My honest opinion is that after months of being a pariah she decided enough was enough and left. This wasn't her fault nor entirely Cover's fault. It was the chinks' fault for targeting her and Youtube's fault for not dealing with the problem properly.

>> No.28160649

>>28156253
Who would have thought that less creative freedom that corpo imposes are meant to attract more viewers and money?
Yoko Ono is a creative person with unlimited creative freedom, but no one in their right mind would appreciate her arts.

>> No.28160658

>>28156253
shitty outfit desu

>> No.28160781

>>28157621
>kanata moving out
what happened? I thought they will living together forever and ever

>> No.28160960

>>28160184
Meme reviews were fucking hated and people made fun of how bad the memes were, but they got tons of views.

>> No.28161260

>>28156382
People are tsundere about /vt/

>> No.28161286

>>28160781
Can't live under same roof with judas.

>> No.28161335

>>28160658
But the model and rigging moggs the whole nijisanji and hololive?

>> No.28161435

>>28161335
Yeah sure, if you consider copy pasting her face onto a body that uses another artstyle "good rigging".

>> No.28161638

>>28161435
Holy cope
evwn if that was true it still mogs anything cover can provide, it took 2 years for cover to add pngs onto their models, multiple model fuckups good example being guras 2d catshark debut

>> No.28161649

>>28157384
one day Zen is going to get outed and everyone will see she's just a once-alt normie girl with mega-retard anxiety

>> No.28161650

>>28156253
Good morning, schizo

>> No.28161856

>>28156382
It's been like this for well over a year, and the biggest offenders are /hlgg/ and NijiEN. Whenever there is a big EN stream, you can see tourists from other boards join the discussion, who then go shitpost in the catalog. The Twitter accounts and the Reddit who post shit from here contribute to the very low quality posts too

>> No.28162084

>>28161638
Too bad nobody fucking cares about "good models" it seems since she gets less viewers than fucking IDs KEK.

>> No.28162306 [DELETED] 

>>28162084
Seethe harder chink
Had a bad month huh? Top holo streamers backstab hololive, sana graduation, no one streams, yabs, a week of seething on this board, absolute rent free
>>28159662

>> No.28162363

>>28162084
You care enough to spam the catalog

>> No.28163148

>>28156253
The "creative freedom" that she and V-Shojo are mentioning is just extremely misguided and makes her devolve into very boring Vtuber that for everything has just one punchline - her fucking boobs.
Kson is kind of person that apparently NEEDED to be challenged and have some limits put in front of her to maintain actual creativity. Now when big, bad company is gone and nobody is keeping an eye on her she's just getting lazy and repeats herself like a fucking schizo.
"LOOK PEOPLE! I'M FREE AND I HAVE BOOBS! I ALSO HAVE BOOBS! I HAVE MONEY FOR EXPENSIVE RIGGING OF MY BOOBS! PLEASE LIKE AND SUBSCRIBE TO MY BOOBS! ALSO I'M JOINING A COMPANY WHERE I'LL HAVE SWEATY LESBIAN SEX WITH MORE OWNERS OF BOOBS!"

>> No.28163339

>>28158971
>nobody sane is objectively using that
Bold of you to assume there are a sane person on this board.

>> No.28164120

>>28156253
Yes she's a whore

>> No.28166022

>>28162363
Cope.

>> No.28168278

>>28156497
VshojoCope.
She betrayed her OG fanbase AND badmouthed Japan at AX. She's on freefall now.

>> No.28168428

>>28159881
rent freee

>> No.28168446

>>28159444
damn, i didn't know nyanners was that cancerous

>> No.28169013

>>28156676
kek, alright this one gets a pass

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>>28156382
That's the best part of /vt/ though.

>> No.28174096

>>28156404
An oppressive moral code that limits how much they can think and be original, perhaps?

>> No.28174350

>>28168278
>badmouthed Japan at AX
Anon I’ve been out living, source please? Sounds, dare I say, 面白い。

>> No.28175066

>>28174350
She went on a 3 hour rant about why Abe deserved it.

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