/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *


>70,402: Pekora (Hololive)
>59,914: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>29,476: Subaru (Hololive)
>23,025: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>19,122: Shion (Hololive)
>18,782: Mio (Hololive)
>17,335: Nerumero (Indie)
>16,835: Chloe (Hololive)
>14,273: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>14,134: Towa (Hololive)
>13,789: kson (VShojo)
>13,573: Iroha (Hololive)
>12,713: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>12,540: Shigure Ui (Indie)
>11,546: Haachama (Hololive)
>11,523: IRyS (Hololive)
>11,457: Nerumero (Indie)
>11,298: Kronii (Hololive)
>10,894: Kiara (Hololive)
>10,487: Lui (Hololive)
>10,283: Watame (Hololive)
>10,113: Pomu (Nijisanji)
>10,090: Flare (Hololive)

>>28102681
Why?

>Wake up naturally, no need for alarm on my king size bed
>Do 10 minutes of meditation, sometimes I feel like I'm levitating
>The two girls are still sleeping
>My dog gets out of his Korone themed kennel I built for him and greets me
>My Gawr Gura hoodie I ordered is on the coathanger
>Turn 20k pc on, boots in under 10 seconds because of lastest SSD.
>Suisex as desktop background on 60 inch monitor
>Play https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a51VH9BYzZA on loop
>Girls wake up with a smile to the thundering sound of my industrial speakers
>Open my internet home, /#/
>Hololive posters dominating Nijichinks, as it is the custom
>Crack a smile, showing my pearly white teeth
>Don't need to click captchas because 20$ is literally nothing to me
Just the average day in the life of a HoloEMPEROR.

>>28102899
>JULY 2022 GOLDS
1) Miko (Hololive) - 43,044 - HoloCure
2) Subaru (Hololive) - 66,433 - Birthday stream
3) AZKi (Hololive) - 74,504 - 3D birthday live
4) Tsukasa (Indie) - 41,447 - Streamer league mahjong
5) Mayuzumi (Nijisanji) - 57,985 - Meschers off-collab
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - Drinking talk w/Laplus
7) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - DQ11 casino w/Noel
8) Salome (Nijisanji) - 37,023 - Unpacking
9) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 164,013 - Koshien 2022 draft
10) Shion (Hololive) - 48,313 - 1 million subs celebration totsumachi
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 61,665 - Clubhouse 51 totsu
12) Shiina (Nijisanji) - 49,387 - Niji Koshien practice
13) Pekora (Hololive) - 70,402 - Uno collab w/Marine, Botan & Polka

>PER COMPANY
8x: Hololive
4x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie

>PER STREAMER
4x: Pekora
1x: AZKi, Mayuzumi, Miko, Nijisanji, Salome, Shiina, Shion, Subaru, Tsukasa

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
126x: Hololive
57x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
3x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
22x: Pekora
16x: Aqua, Salome
13x: Miko
12x: Kuzuha
9x: Subaru
6x: Hal
5x: Kanata, Marine
4x: Gura, Hololive, Mio, Suisei, Toya
3x: Chloe, Choco, Flare, Nijisanji, Okayu
2x: Ange, Fuwa, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Mori, Mysta, Polka, Towa
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, AZKi, Botan, Chronoir, Debi, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Laplus, Masaru, Mayuzumi, Mel, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Nene, Noel, Roboco, Rushia, Sango, Shiina, Shion, Sora, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

>>28102899

official /#/ theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OANWYoSgv4o

>>28102919
holy based

>>28102851
>Final /news/ roundup for 13-07-2022
>>28096474

Recent Clip Numbers
>>28080375
>>28080716
>>28080757
>>28080757

List of median of peak CCV, July 1st to July 12th, indies only
>>28084824

>>28102919
Still on my business attire, with a whiskey on hand, I offer this toast to /#/, salute

>>28102919
Based holoGods

>>28102975
Umisea part 2

Nousagi run this thread
Even on dead hour half of the poster are (self proclaimed) nousagi. Imagine prime time

>>28103195

When’s Michael cat’s debut again?

>>28103195
please bump the 兎田ぺこら thread sir...

The blue women faction strikes again.

Yagoo cut china market for Coco

> it is worth it?

>>28103090
> Aqua's Visual Novel placed 3rd in Amazon JP Top Selling Games
What's stopping NijiEN from creating a Luxiem Visual Novel? Wouldn't that print money?

>>28102919
based

>>28103304
If it hadn't been Coco it probably would have been something else down the line.

>>28103304
no but neither is pandering to chinks

>>28103317
What’s funny about this is that Amazon shop is competing with Hololive shop as well.

>>28103304
Yes, getting out of China is the best move they ever made.

>>28103195
nousagi have pekolish buff. people use that shit voluntarily to shitpost, even though they don't watch pegor. of course they're everywhere

How does Investing works? I only know by example, that if the shares are in demand, the price for ownership gets high like Netflix, Google etc. But if they're not in demand and people are holding their shares, it's kinda what Anycolor is experiencing right now, right? If those shareholders sell their shares now, the price would go below the initial stock price and Anycolor might face some danger to their company. Did I get that right?

>IDs are streaming
>JPs are streaming
>ENs are not streaming
Ah...

>>28103317
luxiem sister cannot import luxem products to them country .

>

>>28103304
It is worth it in the long run

>>28103195
Nousagis and saplings seems to be the most represented fanbases on /#/

>>28103439
Just like watamelon posters. Or Watamage posters. Sheep ain't nothin' I ain't scaree

>>28103472
Everything is right except:
>face some danger to their company
The big shareholders (Riku and the other initial investors) would lose a lot of money, but that wouldn't endanger the company, they can operate with almost no money

>>28103195
as it should be, she is the Queen of /#/

>>28102919
holy based

>>28103304
YES

>>28103304

Did you know that you can't sell anything in China?

>merch
>voice pack
>collab product

>>28103304
From a cultural and political perspective, never depend on China in any capacity. This is doubly so if you're American or Japanese.

>>28102899
btw that's my spunk

>>28103395

t..too strong

>>28103304
Really the question is, was losing Hololive worth it for the Chinks?

>>28103514
if Kaela and Koyori proved something is that hard work pays off, hopefully we get one or two like them in EN3

>>28103304
Yes. Yagoo could cut China for some lint in his pocket and that shit would still be worth it.

So I tried to guess the base number of active members in June from Gura and compared her with Watame and Pekora (the member queens of JP) by using hololyzer's membership tracking.
>New members in June
New members
Gifted membership
>Old members prior to June
The first part uses milestone messages as the number of old members
The second part uses the stream with the highest unique member chatters as the baseline for current members, then only the new members and gifts from the following streams as new members (because I assume the new members and gifts prior to that is included in that stream)
Then I pick the higher value of the 2 parts as the base value:
>Gura: 5,044
>Pekora: 6,584
>Watame: 10,266

>>28103749
heck even though you're on the neutral side, to solely depend on chinese is suicide. just ask any SEA country. you waking up seeing the news that china claiming something is bread and butter

>>28103831
It also proves that every branch needs a couple of stream monsters to remain healthy and strong. Even if they're not the most popular talents.

I know this isn't note worthy or anything like that but haachama gained 6k followers on twitch just today, which is kind of surprising I can't lie

>>28102899
all me baby

>>28103784
Definitely not lol sucks for them

>>28103596
Thanks, so they don't face any endangerment but Riku would only disappoint investors since the company isn't that "fast" in making money. Despite being pumped money, people would only see Riku as incompetent in managing his business if it ever falls below the starting share price. If my guess is right, those investors can't still boot him out of the position and Riku could just sell his shares for a quick profit. It's either those two if the company ever fails to meet expectations imo.

>>28103883
At this point these things are pretty much the same as an SC because 99% of those gifted members aren't staying past the 1st month, especially if the gifted tier differs from the regular one

>>28103304
>Yagoo cut China for Japanese and English markets*

>>28102899
that's my spunk lalion is pulling out

>>28103949
true, Im glad ID now has a cute hag blacksmith

>>28104041
JPs don't have gifted tiers. And they keep gifting every month

>>28104016
Anon, I was just seriously answering your question, didn't expect you would use it to shitpost

>>28104091
Gifted months don't stack right? Then like I said, pretty much an SC worth so it doesn't matter, but the 1% stacks up so that many people might consider membering by themselves so the merit IS there, it's just not significant... I still don't get why some members don't have it though

>>28104014
I remember being worried about Peko's situation back when they were attacking her over a miscited meme video, but she just makes a half hearted corporate apology post and returns to happily stream the next day like nothing happened

>>28104233
Gifted memberships also boost viewership, because now they will start watching more streams hoping to get a gift again

>>28104302
Now that I absolutely agree with

>>28104302
Also there’s always people who decided to prolong the membership after seeing what’s there in member content
Gifted membership might not be permanent but it act as a free preview to attract more permanent membership

>>28104243
And that's how you do it, never go full menhara people.

>>28103195
nah we hate pakora here

>>28102899
Who cares, Gura has more subs and the rabbit will never catch her up.

So have Cover and Anycolor's financials for 2022 get leaked yet? I want to compare the new numbers

>>28104560
>>28104538
/hlgg/ is over there

>>28104243
Im honestly impressed how good she is at handling bs , it's one of the things i like about her

>>28104560
There's a tree just 2 blocks down, you could always hang yourself there naked, just saying

HoloERROR Final chapter July 16
VshojoJP
Peko Anniversary
KING
It feels like

but seriously tho. why

>>28104599
>>28104446
She used to be an internet troll
She know all to well to never take anything anyone say on internet seriously

>>28102752
The site I monitor still says
"令和3年3月期"
Reiwa 3 is 2021. I haven't checked the other site but it's way more expensive (business-only subscription) so I'm counting on japs to leak if it's available there first.

EN3?

>>28104656
Feels like what?

>>28104656
Peko 3D is on 17th unfortunately. 16th is gonna be for niji debuts with all 100ks because of farms.

>Almost no EN streams for 2 months
>Fanfic reading collab between the 2nd and 4th biggest EN members in terms of CCV and one of the biggest EN ships
>First EN collab from the "graduation run" and lore oriented stream (Sana's bread and Ame can't eat bread)
>Overlapping
WHY ARE THEY LIKE THISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS?

>>28104703
Wait until the 10 day period where Sana isn't streaming before her final stream at the end of the month. If it's in July, it will happen in that time period. If it doesn't happen in July, then October.

>>28104656
VshoujoJP is happening in NA time. Unironically, they aren't even competing.

>>28104703
September.

>>28102899
Flare included? IN /#'s TALLY? Who is this imposter?

>>28103195
This is the numbers thread, not the Pekora general. I'd ask you rabbittards to go back to your general but it looks like it actually died since it's not in the catalog LMAO. Is that why you hang out here? Because you have nowhere else to go? Kinda sad when even /nasa/ doesn't die.

>>28104763
>Almost no EN streams for 2 months
retard

>>28104763
seethe enshart

>>28104562
see >>28104695
It probably exists but no one is willing to pony up for it here. We're waiting for some faggot from 5ch to produce it, then get it crossposted here

>niji gets obliterated by pekora
>hurr durr seethe enshart posting starts
every single time.

>>28104839
(me) Nope, that other anon is correct, it's October.

>>28104861
Kaela alone streamed more than 11 ENs these past two months

>>28104859
looks like the moonrune filter is working well if you can't find it

>>28102899
BRONZE
>1) 35,700: Todoroki Kyoko (Nijisanji) 3D Reveal
>2) 62,797: Mayuzumi (Nijisanji) Graduation announcement
>3) 60,986: Yorumi Rena (Nijisanji) SMC 3rd Anniversary
>4) 29,741: Miko (Hololive) Minecraft
>5) 48,415: Marine (Hololive) Holocure
>6) 46,066: Subaru (Hololive) TowaShuba collab
>7) 36,803: Kiara (Hololive) 3D Birthday
>8) 32,445: Watame (Hololive) Clubhouse 51 collab
>9) 38,689: Mel (Hololive) Live2D 3.0 update 4/5
>10) 31,811: Pekora (Hololive) MonHun Sunbreak
>11) 45,810: Lize (Nijisanji) Nijisanji Koshien
>12) 43,505: Maimoto (Nijisanji) Nijisanji Koshien
>13) 29,476: Subaru (Hololive) Metal Slug 3


> PER COMPANY
5x: Nijisanji
8x: Hololive

> PER STREAMER
2x: Subaru
1x: Todoroki Kyoko, Mayuzumi, Yorumi Rena, Miko, Marine, Kiara, Watame, Mel, Pekora, Lize, Maimoto

>>28104763
None of these are events, so I don't see why they shouldn't overlap

>>28104999
Didn't she stream more than almost every JP other than Koyori? Why compare to EN specifically?

>>28104999
Retard.

>>28104703
Sorry anon, I'm still examining every crevice of their body, I'll let you know once I'm done, give me time until October maybe

>>28105042
i love seeing filtered fags embarrass themselves kek

>>28102899
SILVER
>1) 38,292: Salome (Nijisanji) Unpacking (Low energy)
>2) 64,120: Marine (Hololive) Holocure
>3) 70,134: Nijisanji (Nijisanji) *Niji event
>4) 32,929: Botan (Hololive) Holocure
>5) 49,897: Salome (Nijisanji) Rhythm Tengoku
>6) 51,071: Salome (Nijisanji) Idolm@ster Million Live
>7) 49,060: Noel (Hololive) NoePeko DQ11S gambling
>8) 35,848: Marine (Hololive) Zatsu
>9) 107,144: Salome (Nijisanji) 1st Utawaku
>10) 34,727: Toya (Nijisanji) Toya
>11) 59,594: Leos (Nijisanji) Nijisanji Koshien
>12) 46,537: Pekora (Hololive) MonHun Sunbreak
>13) 59,914: Hayato (Nijisanji) Nijisanji Koshien


> PER COMPANY
8x: Nijisanji
5x: Hololive

> PER STREAMER
4x: Salome
2x: Marine
1x: Nijisanji, Botan, Noel, Toya, Leos, Pekora, Hayato

EN3 will have 5 koyoris and all of them will be xqc tier

>>28104859
Nijiseethe.

>>28105154
Fuck, I'll take it

>>28105097
That's only one month, he said 2, why are you showing incomplete data?

EN3 has a hypnosis tuber, and one of their planned content gimmicks is 'brainwashing streams'. They're going to go harder on GFE/roleplay and grooming their audience than anyone in Hololive ever did except maybe Rushia

I have to confess, I love numbers

*FINAL GAIJIN TALLY OF THE DAY*
>14,315: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>11,523: IRyS (Hololive)
>11,295: Kronii (Hololive)
>10,895: Kiara (Hololive)
>10,151: Pomu (Nijisanji)
>9,139: Luca (Nijisanji)
>8,633: Kobo (Hololive)
>7,046: Kiara (Hololive)
>6,773: Anya (Hololive)
>6,704: Vox (Nijisanji)
>5,761: Sonny (Nijisanji)
>5,556: Ike (Nijisanji)

>GAIJIN GOLD SO FAR FOR JULY
1. Mumei (Hololive) - 18,378 (I'm on Observation Duty 5 w/Fauna)
2. Ina (Hololive) - 22,039 (Return Stream)
3. Luca (Nijisanji) - 26,367 (600k sub celebration unarchived karaoke)
4. Mumei (Hololive) - 22,338 (HoloCure: Save the Fans)
5. Kobo (Hololive) – 22,212 (Getting Over It)
6. Gura (Hololive) - 32,780 (HoloCure: Save the Fans)
7. Kiara (Hololive) - 36,856 (3D Birthday concert)
8. Gura (Hololive) - 19,070 (I am Fish)
9. Kobo (Hololive) – 12,130 (Rock Simulator)
10. Lily (Cloud Horizon) – 21,623 (Graduation ceremony)
11. IRyS (Hololive) - 23,882 (1st Anniversary Celebration)
12. Sana (Hololive) – 22,793 (Graduation announcement)
13. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 14,315 (Reviewing viewer dishes)

>GOLD PER COMPANY
Hololive - 10
Nijisanji – 2
Others - 1

>GOLD PER STREAMER
2x: Mumei, Gura, Kobo
1x: Ina, Luca, Kiara, Lily, IRyS, Sana, Mysta

>SILVER PER COMPANY
Hololive - 9
Nijsanji - 4
Others - 0

>SILVER PER STREAMER
3x: Kobo
2x: Vox, Gura
1x: Uki, Baelz, Mysta, Mumei, Amelia, IRyS

>BRONZE PER COMPANY
Hololive - 11
Nijsanji - 2
Others – 0

>BRONZE PER STREAMER
3x: Kobo, Mumei
2x: Ina
1x: Shu, Kiara, Amelia, Luca, Kronii

>MEDAL COUNT
Kobo: 8 (2-3-3)
Mumei: 6 (2-1-3)
Gura: 4 (2-2-0)
IRyS: 2 (1-1-0)
Mysta: 2 (1-1-0)
Ina: 3 (1-0-2)
Kiara: 2 (1-0-1)
Luca: 2 (1-0-1)
Vox: 2 (0-2-0)
Lily: 1 (1-0-0)
Sana: 1 (1-0-0)
Amelia: 2 (0-1-1)
Uki: 1 (0-1-0)
Baelz: 1 (0-1-0)
Shu: 1 (0-0-1)
Kronii: 1 (0-0-1)

>>28105154
Imagine the collab numbers

If you pekobros would excuse me, I would like to post one chammers lewd since she made it to the tally today

>>28105097
Not him, but do you have the latest one?

>>28104706
>>28104656


ALL OUT WHORE LMAO

>>28105042
>>28105119
Okay that's fucking retarded, no wonder your thread is dead. I checked and it got a grand total of 12 posts during the stream which is pretty pathetic because I'm pretty sure /#/ got a lot more than that. Maybe take better care of your general and add English to the OP if you want new people to actually find her.
>>28105198
Not even a Nijifan just hate Pekora and Nousagi. She's a boring streamer who doesn't deserve her popularity, and her fans are the worst as you can see in this general.

Well, since everyone is throwing EN3 rrats around like its breeding season, I'll throw RTS hag into the mix. I'm not even that guy that basically posted it like a ritual post.

>>28105402
>Not a fan, but...!
For sure Nijitranny.

>>28105388

>>28105464
Retard

>>28105402
>She's a boring streamer who doesn't deserve her popularity
Well, what are you going to do about it?

>>28105402
>Not even a Nijifan
Sure, and I'm Japanese emperor.

>>28104999
This thread's obsession with glorifying streaming addiction is so weird. Like dude, Kaela streams the most out of anyone in Hololive (females) and it's not even all that comparable, with the one single competitor being one that many have already poked at for streaming TOO much.
People don't have all the time in the world to watch streamers. It's a fucking chore and a half to catch up on VODs in general, but no one will ever catch up on 6-8 hour long VODs by someone who's ready to stream 3 more times by the time you even attempt to finish it. Plus, streaming that fucking much completely kills off any meaningful interaction with an audience because you burn through every ounce of discussion you possibly have within you. You want to sit around someone being quiet or making random noises for hours at a time?

It's why even though Gura is often considered lazy, many don't care if she takes a few days off. She uses those days to do shit and talk about it on stream. She writes notes of things she watched/did and that lets discussion flow for half the stream by itself

>>28105316
hypnosis isn't real tho
do people actually watch fake hypnosis videos on youtube?

>>28105402
kek filtered

>>28105097
>>28105464
How come La+ never gets any shit for barely streaming despite being new?

>>28105591
Because she's always doing some main channel shit

>>28105567
>Not streaming=good, streaming=bad
Chumbuds everyone

>>28105591
No one here watches HoloX.

>>28105655
I do

>>28105570
>hypnosis isn't real
You've never gone down the rabbit hole of hypnosis on youtube? There are some hands free orgasm videos that actually worked for me, it totally is real.

>>28105402
>Not a niji fan
Sure tranny sister

>>28105591
This thread still has a lot of HoloX white knights that will snap at you at any moment you say a single thing about them. It's been like this since CCVID. No one wants to say anything because people literally don't want to deal with their retardation half the time

>>28105591
There are no Laplus fans on /vt/ so they don't care. She has a few antis on /jp/ though.
Generally HoloX doesn't really get shit on much on this board for some reason. Possibly because people here like Koyori and then the rest by association. It's not like they watch JP chuubas anyways

>>28105567
Witness everyone! The Ultimate Cope!

>>28105808
You're literally retarded if you think saying Gura > Kaela is cope. It's just a fucking fact, if you can't even accept this basic reality then not even meds can save you, and you must kill yourself

>>28105402

>>28105746
This is literally written by me, the first post that is and I'm a fucking holofan, you'd know if you look at the replies retard

>>28105567
It's a different style, basically the twitch style of streamer. You're not really supposed to even bother with VODs because odds are she'll be streaming every day for long hours and you just tune in and watch daily. Do I want my favorite streamer to stream like that? No. But there is an audience for that type of style and it doesn't hurt to have a few people like that on the roster.

>>28105464
Mel is such a failure...

>>28105636
>>28105808
He's right. Long streams are a filter because you're probably always hopping into the middle of a stream and if it's been going on for 4 hours you can't go back and catch up until it's over so in the end you might as well just do something else catch the vod later. But wait, if the vod is 8 hours long, it's basically impossible to catch up on anything because there's already new videos coming out. Basically you filter out any audience that cares about a sense of continuity or progression so you're left having to play a super repetitive ADHD friendly game where viewers can hop in and out like apex or Minecraft

>>28105715
No you don't

>>28106014
See in this instance I would call Gen 1 a failure and that they should graduate, but after my psi being pretty much softcore terminated, I'll never shitpost about Gen 1 again and at this point I'm here for the ride more or less

>>28105932
Sure you're a holo fan tranny sister kek

>>28105877
I don’t think the argument here is
>Gura vs. Kaela
But
>present day Gura vs. a motivated Gura
I have no doubt Gura could fly even higher if she done a little bit more than today and I’m not even talking about streaming hours, maybe just the basics, like make a waiting room with some advance and tweet it to her 1M tweeter followers.
This is not crazy talk, is it?

>>28105591
She does a lot of prerecorded work. She also gets a ton of sponsors.

>>28105456
>>28105516
>>28105746
Dumbasses, I'm a Holo watcher. Besides, why would I care about Pekora as a Nijifan or even know about her? She's completely irrelevant outside the Holo walled garden, I bet if you go into /NijiEN/ and show them a picture of Pekora the only people who would recognize her are the /#/ tourists who go there to shitpost and bring back posts for here. Yeah I know you visit, you're really obvious.

>>28105655
I like Lacunny to a lesser extent stinky orca, and I'll never miss Rui in 3D, Koyo since she's always on she's a seconday pick if no one else is on, Iroha I can't seem to catch much

>>28106277
Cope, you could play her laugh at any supermarket across the world and it would be recognised

>>28106099
Prove it, post my memberships

>>28106245
>This is not crazy talk, is it?
No but it's a conversation that has been done hundred times and leads nowhere. Gura will be Gura.

>>28106277
Holy shit you're mentally ill kek

https://crunchyrollexpo.com/hololive/
All of HoloEN is going to be at the Crunchyroll Expo

>>28106245
Gura just wants to do idol shit though, if she could do the Laplus/Ayame thing of being in every single main channel event or do constant 3D concert appearances she'd do it probably without hesitating. She doesn't stream a lot because it's not actually what she wants out of Hololive

>>28106347
>Engligh
Tyson-chama...

>>28106277
Come on anon, at least try a bit harder, also maybe your meds have expired, try checking with the psychiatric ward nearest to you

35pagpag is chimping out again
your pregnant whore will never be number 1

>>28106347
>Already erased
HAHAHAHAHA

>>28106347
>Irys but no Sana
The fuck? Did Sana already get dropped? That's brutal.

>>28106347
Is Crunchyroll Expo trying to expand its market share in the NA convention arena?

>>28103304
It was not and not for china itself but the talents who got affected by it, such as Aqua who current situation is a bigger loss than 5 Cocos combined.

>>28106373
Wants to do idol shit yet skip out on Kiara 3D performance fuck off.

>>28106328
Well if you give me your youtube account then I'll be able to post your membership, can't really do that with mine you know

>>28106441
>>28106438
It's after her graduation do you expect her to still show up?

>>28105591
>La+ never gets any shit for barely streaming
In 2022 there are only 3 EN with more streams than LaPlus
>Kiara
>Amelia
>Bae

I say that’s a good reason she shouldn’t get shit for not streaming, but she actually did and JP badgered her until she stopped putting hours in her RM account

>>28106347
Sana...

>>28106441
It's happening in August after Sana's graduation, so Sana won't be there. Would be worse if they put her there.

>>28106441
You are either in or out.

>>28106347

>>28106431
Neither Pekora as long Gura is around

>>28106373
>Gura just wants to do idol shit though
Putting a stream in advance and tweeting it is very idol-y.

>>28106347
> IRyS was the wildcard all along. Reminding the other girls they all can be easily replaced if they step out of line.
Omega was playing 4dchess all along.

>>28102919
Based, cheers.

If Kson is making $100k a month, then was Calli lying when she said HoloEN weren't millionaires? Considering all of HoloEN are bigger than Kson and also sell more merch which they would get a higher cut of.

>>28106602
Mori always lie, anon.

>>28105745
Maybe Cover pays them. Holox does seem to have a massive budged unlike any other gen after all.

>>28106602
Anon, she was paying 80% in taxes because she is legit retarded

>>28106602
Between taxes, expenses and investments, you could make the argument that they don't have a million in cash, but I don't really know if Mori actually knows how much each of the girls makes.

>>28106602
Wasn't it kiara that said that? Plus I wouldn't believe any of them if they said hard dollar numbers like that, plus Mori is a moron who didn't even have a proper accountant despite being a foreigner with 3 jobs.

>>28106347
These 5 are the headliners I guess.

>>28106602
Depends on your spending or investments.
Mikeneko probably makes a shitton a month but I bet she's not a millionaire because she spends it all.

>>28106833
But /vt/ has always said that they don't spend their money and just leave it to waste away in a bank account and that spending your money is actually a good idea. Which is it???

>>28106842
Unsexy

>>28106602
https://twitter.com/Amouranth/status/1545524158523588608?s=20&t=mcH6zyjxxfOopsqRPiN3XA
Amouranth makes over a million dollars a month in just Onlyfans alone, and has grossed over 30 million on the site. This isn't even including the twitch money she gets.

I'm sure Holos are not like double digit millionaires or anything by that stretch, given much of their money goes to Cover. But I wouldn't doubt that there are multiple millionaires within the company

>>28106894
?

>>28106817
ametyan kawaii

>>28103259
You're posting on it

>>28106497
>more streams
The discussion was about hours streamed. She's only above Sana and not by much.

>>28106894
Did the voices in your head tell you that anon?

>>28106817
Why is Gura introducing Baelz there?

>>28106557
More like 5D chess with time travel.

>>28106895
What's your definition of sexy then anon? Why don't you post a sample of what turns you on?

>>28106833
> be vtuber so you never have to show your face.
> spend all your money on makeup to impress crossdresser guy
> he is impressed with the quality of the makeup
> he steals all your makeup so you have to constantly buy more.
Miguel...

>>28106842
Sexy

>>28105591
EN doesn't have any main channel content that acts as a sort of excuse.
Also Laplus is very active on other people's channels, so she's almost always live (even if it's not on her own channel).

So why is that Vshojo fans don't accept that Vshojo is a company? They are willing to tooth and nail just to say that Vshojo isn't a company. Is there a reason for it?

>>28106459
This feels more like those fan conventions for brand IPs like WoW, EVE Online and the few others that have taken place from time to time.

>>28107115
They're actually brainwashed

>>28105570
I don't know about you, but I have this one weird college roommate that rented a room in my apartment despite me living alone. I don't know why but I allowed her with paper contracts and all that. What's even weirder is that after she came, I slept early at 10 and woke up at 6, feeling extremely drained near my balls area and my sheets would often get really wet. I never thought I'd sweat that hard after a nights sleep. I went to the doctors to see if there was any problem with me and he says I was extremely healthy. I don't know about you, but I have grounds to believed I was hypnotized by my roommate.

>>28107115
In my opinion they gaslighted themselves into thinking "corpo" or "company" mean bad things and "indie" means good things.
I believe that's bullshit but they're hellbent on that idea.

>>28105316
> EN
> ever going full GFE

>>28107071
nice blog, nijikek

>>28105402
filtered nijikek

>>28106277
Every time

>>28106951
>hours streamed
I genuinely believe this conversation wouldn’t exist if (let’s say) Sana would do 4 one hour long streams per week instead of showing up, blasting 2 eleven hours long Pokémon streams, joking on Twitter that she could stream just Pokémon if she felt like it and bailing for the rest of the month.

Actually; in Sana’s case, that even piled up with a second criticism: if she just took a massive break for back being broke, how come she’s doing this and wasting this much time on a single stream?
People would genuinely prefer to have more of her across the time even at expense of stream length.

>>28106277

>>28106277

>>28106894
That was Kiara being retarded about how to best invest her shit.

>>28107443
source?

>>28107392
>if she just took a massive break for back being broke
That's an excuse. Her back miraculously heals when a new Pokemon game launches or she needs to play kirby

>>28107392
Those long pokemon streams actually gave Sana the most hours streamed in Council during 2021

>>28107115
>why is that Vshojo fans don't accept that Vshojo is a company
It’s for the same reason some Niji blokes can’t accept that their Niji Fantasia live is an idol concert.

In both cases they built their whole identity on being “not corporate”, “not idol”.
Mike on VShojo will be funny too because the whole appeal of Mike is that she plays the most spectacular character to entice her audience while some vshojo girls (Vei in particular) abhor that and considering anyone not “a streamer with an avatar” as fake.

>>28107471
Source: Kiara

>>28107115
Because kekson said so therefore it isn't a company. That's literally it. Which is pretty funny since they go around and calling holofans bootlickers and drones when they aren't any better themselves. They're just projecting and in denial and are better off ignored.

>>28107033
I wish we had a Vtuber, any Vtuber who would stream that game

>>28107500
That’s the entirety of my point. Laplus doesn’t get criticism because she’s constantly streaming, even if short streams.
Sana (and other EN girls) got criticism because despite spamming hours, the gap between “streaming” and “on a break” was too big at times.

>>28107523
this

>>28107603
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
Anon..?

>>28107603
PEKKERS LET ME GROOM YOU

>>28107671
that

>>28107603

>>28106602
Lamy said her tax was 四桁 (4 digits, in 万 which is 10,000) which comes up to anywhere between 10,000,000 and 99,999,999 Yen which is anywhere between $73,000 and $728,000.
Assuming maybe a 40% mid point, we can assume an approximate tax of $250,000.
That's $250,000 in taxes alone btw.
Assuming 50% tax, her income is $500,000 per year.
Assuming 30% tax, her income is $830,000 per year.
This of course doesn't include merch, collabs, promotions, and all the other stuff that goes through the company (and can therefore avoid getting taxed).

>>28107392
Sanner..

>>28106895

>>28107115
They wouldn't be able to use "corpo bootlicker" as their favorite insult.
They are too creatively free to invent another one.

>>28107698
>>28107708
>>28107816

>>28107115
Indiefags become some of the worst antis when their indie goes corpo

is there any subreddit for numberfags

>>28105745
>This thread still has a lot of HoloX white knights
Damn, you were right. Look at all those posts defendind La+ extremely low streaming hours, kinda sad.

>>28107624
well that and because she also stopped doing those long streams after january,>>28107624
so now she had the least streams as well as the least hours
at the same time other ENs started streaming more than before so she really had nothing going for her anymore

>>28102899
I hate these fags who forget the nousagis in her irises so fucking much

>>28108012
if there is I hope the cunts stay there.

>>28108085
I feel conflicted

>>28107986
nta, but I found these

>>28108012
r/Holostatistics

>>28102899

>>28105567
Anon only shitposters are pointing fingers at individual HoloENs.
This thread's gripe about them has always been that they have far fewer streams comparatively, while also not doing anything else off stream that reflects on stream (such as songs, or Main channel content, or collabs on other channels etc.).

The fact that both JP and ID have at least ONE streaming addict is what's frustrating about EN. They COULD go for greatness, they don't even need to do as much as Koyo or Kaela. They just don't want to, which is frustrating from a numbers perspective. Which is why we're hoping EN3 has someone like that.

>>28107986
>tfw that one black screen weepy apology video from when she overslept by 1 hour is private now

>>28108012
Maybe but it would be a ghost town. Would you numberfag in a place your oshi could ready?
Or WORSE
>in a place WATAMAGE can read?

>>28108147
Me the nousagi on her crotch

>>28108029

>>28107879
Laplus...

>>28108182
>while also not doing anything else off stream that reflects on stream
One cope that I’ll always laugh about is
>they’re totally doing Holo related projects
>no, you can’t see them yet, they’re secret projects
Followed by
>they were ALMOST finishing and then management cancelled the projects!

>>28108147
Here's more

>>28107871
>This of course doesn't include merch, collabs, promotions, and all the other stuff that goes through the company (and can therefore avoid getting taxed).
That stuff gets taxed as well, but at a reduced rate if it's made in the form of an investment, and even more if it's a long term investment.

>>28107871
>This of course doesn't include merch, collabs, promotions, and all the other stuff that goes through the company (and can therefore avoid getting taxed).
I think people underestimate just how much this helps out when it comes to avoiding personal taxes.
All the money that Hololive talents make isn't theirs until Cover writes the paycheck.

>>28108312
And another one

>>28107986
Never forget
https://youtu.be/zhDSwIVnHCE

>>28108182
But Kiara streams a lot. Like, not Kaela and Kotori a lot but these are new fucking holos. Where's all the Kiara love? Why isn't Kiara inclining to the moon? Could it be that the EN audience is in fact, not demanding lots of streams?

>>28108364
>>28108312
Post the transparent dogeza

>Nousagi are now spamming pedo pics here
Yeah /#/ has declined hard. Ping me when they go back where they belong. This place is for serious discussion, not horny image spam.

This money talk is hilarious, no one knows shit for sure but everyone talks with authority.

>>28108205
Probably more of them reading this board than wasting their time with that shithole of vapid asskissers

>>28108405
Nijiseethe

>>28108405
holy seethe

>>28108405
>Nousagi are now spamming pedo pics here
Remind me why there's a chumkek vs nutsacki rivalry? They truly sound like brothers from different countries to me.

>>28108393
Kiara has too many goddamn filters and streams at a time that frankly blows chunks for the vast majority of NA.

>>28108394
Dozo

>>28108405
>Ping me
Go the fuck back to your discord server Fujotard.
>>28102899

>>28108312
>>28108364
noice

>>28108556
Thanks

>>28105591
Because she is actually fulfilling her end of the contract fairly well? The terms of the contract only require you to "deliver content" but it doesn't really specify how it should be done. And even with that, she still got shit on for streaming more on the roommate account than her own Holo account.

You'd be better off using Ayame as shitposting material since Nakirigumi are even more cucked than La+'s fans are with how little content she produces.

>>28108393
>Why isn't Kiara inclining to the moon?
>Could it be that the EN audience is in fact, not demanding lots of streams?
This is a silly take, specially when you look at why Kiara has these many hours.

A sizable segment of her streams is devoted to talking with people that are already her audience: SC reading, zatsu or just talking over whatever she’s supposed to be doing
>like talking about / bitching about unrelated stuff when she’s playing Holocure and the audience is there specifically to see her reactions to the characters and situations of the game.

Padding the streams with content people don’t want to see won’t incline anyone otherwise Youtube would have as shitty of streamers as twitch: they would just do 12 hours long sleep streams and take an enormous audience.
What people expect even more than hours is consistency. That’s why Rushia punched way above her abilities back in her Holo days:
>every day, 6PM
You could count on it. People will form an habit around it

>>28108537
Ok but she DOES stream a lot. We DO have a streaming addict in EN. People just choose to ignore her and bitch about the others who don't stream a lot.

>>28108644
You're most welcome anon, cheers

>>28108649
how do we know what is in their contracts?

>>28108405
Dilate

>28108405
seethe

>>28108649
>You'd be better off using Ayame as shitposting material since Nakirigumi are even more cucked than La+'s fans are with how little content she produces.
still wouldn't work since we kneel to big numbers here

I love Pekora

>>28108649
Ayame is a promotion holo. Seriously Cover could never let her go, sponsors love the bitch for some reason
>hai I wannto tu serru car tires, getto me za oni shoujo

>>28108393
Kiara's filtering voice has been discussed to death on this board anon.
She's a potential Koyo level streamer who's intentionally debuffing herself by using a fucking screechy voice and streaming during EU hours.
Half of her personality is "knowing Japanese" but Japs won't watch her at those hours since it's usually the Watame or Flare slot (and occasionally Doog).

In fact that's the most frustrating part about the ENs, they just keep DEBUFFING themselves. Even the numbers that they COULD get from the meagre hours that they stream, they piss them away through fucking OVERLAPS.

Basic shit y'know? space out your streams by like 30 mins at least.
It's not like JP where there's 30 of them and so overlaps would be inevitable. There might be 3 EN streams on any given day but they fucking OVERLAP every single time!

And don't even get me started on Miss Debuffson...

>>28108457
>>28108499
>>28108605
>>28108685
Don't fucking ping me until you're done with your porndump. I just told you. This board needs thread IDs so I can filter all Peko shills.

>>28108405
get filtered, freak

>>28108649
You don't know what the contract is really like, and it's pointless to talk about the "old guard" since they already established themselves and Cover allows them to do whatever the fuck they want. Laplus, on the other hand, is still a new hire.

>>28108767
actual seethe kek

>>28108767
Go back

>>28108767
sorry anon but we love numbers here

>>28108767
dance for me bitch

>>28108767
Actually seething to the point you're frothing at the mouth kek

pekosex

>>28108767
>seething about nousagi's
>on /#/
rumao

>>28102899
ぺこちゃん大好き
>>28108767
Stop whining, I know you getting assblasted by Pekora during the Koshien training streams must be hurting you pretty badly but you're wasting your time. She's shilling herself here anyway with her numbers. Come back when your Oshi will be able to do so on a daily basis.

>>28108767

>>28108929
>while holo/peko gold

>>28108767
If this is some next level (you) farming, good job. Here's another one.
If you're legit seething, SEETHE MORE YA WHORE!!!

>>28102899

>>28108756
I see people talk about the ENs overlapping a lot, but on a typical day the JPs have 10 or more streams doing the same in their primetime. Sure, they could at least stagger their start times more, but if there are any future gens overlap is pretty much inevitable, at least for NA.

>>28108767
ARE WE DOING THIS AGAIN?! ARE WE GOING TO INFINITY AND BEYOND?!

>>28108675
Basically Kiara is the Watame of EN, not Koyori.

How the fuck do you even ping someone here? Is he retarded?

So, who do you think will be the star of Voltaction? My money is on Seraph Dazzlegarden, personally.

>>28109110
Overlap hell anontachi, the ENs have it rough these days... One or two streams overlapping and it's the fucking end of the world!

https://youtu.be/BYIbgX66_h0

>>28108684
>>28108818
You don't even need to look at the contract to know what they want/expect from their talents, and streaming itself doesn't seem to be an imperative given the history of many of the Holos. Sana chose to leave because she couldn't/wouldn't produce enough content to satisfy Cover's demands, while Ayame (and La+) have done so thus far.

>>28108724
>>28108733
That is irrelevant to the point I am making to that anon: that he is shitposting with weak material.

So has it been far too long for IRyS to incline after a redesign?

>>28102899
I want Pekora to play FFVI, isn't that game overwhelmingly liked there with the VII?
Imagine her crying her ass out when Terra gives up on the state of the world to take care of literal shitters on an island...

>>28109408
Those are weird looking carrots

>>28108405
Anonette...

>>28109531
Did Flare incline after her redesign ?

>>28108649
I've alaways wondered. How hard can it be to make a short, or even a handful of shorts, ready for breaks?
Fauna made ASMRs and shorts for when she was on break. Even twitter spaces and soundposts fit the bill. How can you not be invested in your fanbase when you're making bank thanks to them!?

>>28108649
This discussion arose and a longpost about it is here >>28022442 and >>28022806 with the “long story short being”
>the JP with the least hours in 2022 are among the most highest rated highest earners of the whole company

At the time of that post, here is the 2022 SC earning for each of those girls, greatly outranking, for instance, Sana
>179133.81: Marine
>141314.48: Aqua
>114123.49: Shion
>73029.11: Ayame

This anon here >>28108733 got it right. These are the girls whose presence in the company is so massive, with so much name recognition that sponsors pass on the other girls to get their hands on them.
Ayame in particular, she’s in pretty much every promotional material, merchandise and in the few streams she graces this lowly shitposter with her presence, there is always one or two that are sponsored streams
>and likely the reason for her return, to collect the sponsorship fees, collab fees and birthday appearance fees
About birthdays, isn’t she a guest in most of those these days?
Is there a list of every concert this year and the list of guests?

>>28109110
The issue isn't that there's a lot of overlap, the issue is there overlap when there is absolutely no reason for them to be dropping streams without staggering then a bit, especially when there aren't that many EN streams in a day anyways.

>>28109619

And where are Fauna's streams now huh? Nice content you have there, sapling.

>>28109619
Ame actually did this a few times with a some smol Ame skits. Doesn't seem to do much to increase viewers since people like Gura do jack and still get numbers when they come back.

>>28108767
> petite adult
Anytime I see people calling other pedos out of the blue I'm reminded how it's the standard "shut someone up" tactic. Except this isn't twitter.

>>28109531
No. Never it's late.

>>28109482
You're focusing this all on Sana, but the lazyness argument is used with all of EN, not just Sana. Fact is, La+ is lazier than any EN that isn't Sana.

>>28109732
she's sick

>>28109780
Doing short streams often is not a sign of laziness, it’s the epitome of “work smart not hard”.
>show up the required number of times
>put out the required number of hours
>leave

>>28109732
> she has the coof
Idk anon. It's hard to speak when you can barely breathe.

>>28109780
La+ does far more background work, with all the preparation for her videos, like the one she did for her 3D, and her appearances in the main channel.

>>28109850
>La+ does far more background work
No, La+ gets lots of favoritism from Cover, it's different.

>>28109835
This. All the girls had to do was make a dozen shorts. Get them approved beforehand (Fauna made one and took so long to be approved she was back by the time is was released) and tell mane chan to release them during their breaks.
It's literally a few hours.

>>28109836
Was there an official Cover tweet like for all the the other members?

>>28109835
>there are people unironically defending la+ 30min lazy streams
crazy

>>28105567
>More content is le bad because I'm a wagie who can only watch 30 mins of Hololive a day
Gigacope

>>28108644
why does this remind me of Essex

>>28109408
yamero peko

>>28109938
La+ said that she asked her manager to grab all the possible appearance in the main channel. So she get featured a lot, by her own initiative. Meanwhile no EN others than Kiara or Mori did a main channel appeareanec. And it's not like they can't since those two did, so, what are they doing ?

>>28109977
Cover didn't want people to notice typhoid mori.

>>28109780
>Fact is, La+ is lazier than any EN that isn't Sana.
You can only say that when La+'s presence in Hololive is lower than any of the other EN girls.

>You're focusing this all on Sana, but the lazyness argument is used with all of EN, not just Sana.
I was not talking about laziness, but illustrating the point of how contracts work at Cover. That you can't even understand this makes me question why you're even arguing with me.

Nijicopying the design of another vtuber.

>>28110071
Weird, she looks like Pekosex to me.

>>28110083
>Meanwhile no EN others than Kiara or Mori did a main channel appeareanec. And it's not like they can't since those two did, so, what are they doing ?
lmao are you serious

>>28103883
Watamates strong.

>>28110142
>"La+ get featured a lot because of favoritism !"
>"Nah she just asked for it, the other can do it if they so wish"
Is this too hard to understand for you ?

>>28109531
Anon, if even Cursed Aki of the Indian Burial Grounds Home forma de Broken Black Cat Mirrors Crossing Her Path can incline, then anyone can incline at Hololive.

>>28110118
>You can only say that when La+'s presence in Hololive is lower than any of the other EN girls.
That's already the case for most ENs.

>>28108677
Kiara is outright bad at streaming though. The audience interestednin her mindless stream of conscioussness white woman rambling over her gameplay will always be very limited.

>>28110209
hahahaha you're actually serious, holy fuck you're retarded

>>28110214
was it the ark streams that made her incline?

>>28110132
nijitroons will defend this

Did any Niji play Evil God Korone back when it was the FOTM and if so, what kind of numbers did they get? I know some of them have played tsugunohi in the past.

>>28110284
>No argument
I accept your concession.

>>28104302
>>28104427
Some of the people that got gifted memberships in Watame's chat ended up dropping yellow to red SCs thanking people for it. One of them even ended up gifting 50 memberships themselves. I guess if you want to build a dedicated community like she does it probably helps.

What I've learned out of this thread is that a 19 year old doing some preparation work and some recordings sparingly is busier and more active than girls with multiple careers that involve them meeting deadlines, producing high quality material and in some cases, traveling across the world for concerts.
Gotcha

>>28103304
he had to if he wanted to keep the Western audience

>>28109780
La+ is probably the best natural entertainer in Hololice next to Miko and Pekora. She's an amazing talent and she puts out a lot of alternative content so her short streams are forgivable.

>>28110132
Kind of his fault for having an extremely generic design, some day another extremely generic design is gonna overlap yours.

Guess nobody watches laplus, she is taking a week break returning home for memorial services.

>>28110288
Not exactly just that. Aki also had two very good 3D lives this year and somehow lucked herself into being really good at Vampire Survivors. If she had gone for HoloCure as well, you'd see more talk of her ITT... but Aki is cursed, anon. She's a living Monkey's paw.

>>28110377
>producing high quality material
Sure hope you're not talking about HoloEN there

>>28110431
Anon, La+ low streaming hours isn't a recent thing.

>>28110431
Someone died?

>>28110284
Anon....

>>28110444
I tried to watch her Karaoke but she was singing old lady songs and filtered me

>>28110243
That sounds like Mumei

>>28109602
>Did Flare incline after her redesign ?
Flare numbers are schizophrenic as fuck, I believe she has one of the highest amplitudes of all of these charts made so far.

She inclined in December 2021 after her redesign, but CCVID crashed her number with no survivors right after.
Right now Flare is at the highest median of her recorded career, leaning on four buffs
>the return from the Shiraken trip
>MonHun
>Ark
>Holocure

She's one of the few bloc autists that get an incline out of both Minecraft and Ark so she's in for a good time.

>>28110288
curse is a myth
>>28110523
fag

>>28110475
It works for salome so I don't know why anons here are complaining now. She did a twitcast just a few days ago so it's not like she completely disappeared.

>>28110482
No idea probably some distant relative.

Not sure if this was brought up earlier, but I was looking at the Kiara and Kobo VODs from their collab earlier. Kobo has around twice the views as Kiara even though their CCV was pretty similar for most of the stream, and Kiara even led at points. Either Kobo had a ton of churn, has a lot of VOD-only watchers, or really is culled a ton.

>>28110431
Her streaming hours for the whole year have been abysmal.

>>28110561
Ah! One funny thing about this chart is
>SORRY FLARE, 12k IS FOR GROWNUPS

Her incline so far never beat that number
>2020-11-16: 11952 median
>2022-07-10: 11936 median
Let's see if this is not the anon of the tallies throwing number hexes her way