/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

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KSON BROS? I THOUGHT THEY WERE SOULMATES? WHAT HAPPENED? I THOUGHT HOLOLIVE WAS EVIL. WHY DID SHE DUMP HER OVERNIGHT FOR HOLOLIVE?

>>28081746

>>28081746
That fucking cheating landwhale.
I need to console the angelic gorilla.

>>28081781
>3 boxes into the truck, 3 boxes out of the truck
>2 big hands swirl my ass (* is asshole, and 3 is butt check ) and i cum

>>28081746
Shows how much she cared.

>>28081746
kek

she's actually moving in with me so we can have sex all day, sorry nerds

Are you finally going to admit that the chinese were right?

>>28081956
>2 big hands swirl my ass
yeah, mine

>>28081746
>Whore moves on to the next one almost instantly
Wow who would've thunk it!

>>28081982
Go suck a ccp bloody dick

>>28081746
I was mostly impartial about all this stuff so far. I don't watch Vwhorejo apart from mouse from time to time..
But seeing Kanata and suisei being booted for the menhera Miguel Gato...

>>28081980
Go to bed, miguelgato.

>>28082026
Kson leaving the building too retard.

>>28082043
it's 7:30 in japan

>>28082026
Suisei left ages ago anon, she's been living with me fyi

>>28082014
i'm sorry for your ass, anon

>>28081956
is she moving to a brothel?
dedicated worker, huh

>>28082079
Anemachi you should stop posting on here

>>28082080
don't be, I came

>>28082079
Technically incorrect, Kanata and Kson left. Suisei is only now moving out if that building.

>>28081746
What the fuck, so Kanata didn't move out because of Kson, but actually because of mikeycat?

>>28081746
>kanata ditches her "family" because she's afraid to read schizoposts on 5ch about her living with a "competitor"
>someone else moves in to ease the financial burden she created by breaking her lease and not paying rent on their large apartment anymore
>it's somehow kson's fault

>>28081922
lmao

why would you willingly want to live with a menhera that would dox you without a second thought?
Kanata isn't a retard and did the smartest thing any reasonable human being would do

>>28082328
This was really the best you could come up with? Trolling is supposed to make people angry, but I just feel kinda bad for you dude.

>>28082072
Vtubers don't have normal human sleep schedules.

>>28082328
>financial burden
>kson

>>28081820
Never trust lesbians

>>28082328
You really think people in this board use their fucking brains? Most of the people in here are just shitposters that don't even know what the fuck they're talking about.

>>28082468
Pull the corpo hairy dick out of your mouth for once

>>28082534
Dixit the guy who don't even know what the fuck he's talking about.

>>28082468
That is literally what Kanata said. If you watched her you may recall that she had a menhera breakdown and ruined a vacation because some shitposter said her stream was boring. If somebody were to accuse her of leaking secret dance routines then she would probably actually kill herself.

>>28082328
>ease the financial burden
retard

>>28081746
>join vshojo
>immediately change for a whore model
>kick out her sweet roommate and invite a manipulative whore
She's really embracing this new life

>>28081746
>Kson will get 3some with Mafumafu

Please, the fujos have suffered enough

its all fucking scripted

>>28081746
Suisei has to move out too and if I remember correctly she and her sister were neighbors with Kson and Kanata. Suisei claims she might end up homeless but what I think is happening is that she don't want to move out and is dragging her feet.

>>28082916
They stopped being neighbors in February

>>28082641
He'll have to wait his turn. Kson and Michael are taking it deep down their throats.

>>28081922
why is there a purple circle in the alphabet flag?

>>28081746
Kson is moving soon too, so Mikeneko isn't moving into Kanata's old room.
We don't even know if Mike is moving in with Kson.

>>28081982
Emperor Jinping, I... I KNEEL

>>28081982
>chinese
>ever being right

>>28082984
>kson is moving
Do you seriously believe this damage control?

>>28081982
no, and remind me, who is still spamming Fubuki?

Plot twist, Mike is moving in with Kanata.

>>28083117
Are we really at the point where we only believe the parts we want to believe so the drama can stay alive?

>>28081982
No. Until they leave my dear Akukin alone they will be always be wrong subhuman bugs.

>>28083226
really?
anon, most dramafags believe Kanata and Kson hate each other now, despite them going on a trip literally few days ago, and planning new ones already

>>28082328
>financial burden
>Kson
With all the selling out she's been doing lately I'm pretty sure she could move to an even bigger place and not notice the increase in rent.

>>28081982
They never were right Zhang. Let's just say they know how to spot toxic people and subhumans since they are ones themselves

Chinks posing as holofags now?

>>28082641
>Pull the corpo hairy dick out of your mouth for once
Imagine saying this when your oshi just joined Vshojo after she spent an entire year shitting on corpos.

>>28083291
God I hate dramaniggers so much

Maybe this is actually how it went?
>Kson invites Mike to the house to saviorfag her
>Kanata hears about it then informs Cover about it happening
>Cover advises her to leave which she complies
>Kson seethes and blames Cover

>>28083390
Who the fuck knows, there are a million possible scenarios

>>28081982
They were

>>28083390
Meds nigga where your meds

>>28081746
This cant be real bros...kson is not that much of a monster, is she

>>28081982
Why are you larping as chink? Is this a new kind of roleplay?

>>28081982
They spammed Aki a few days ago despite kson being in Vshojo. So you tell me Zhang.

>>28083390
Anyone who doesnt see this as kson fault is just a coping tatsucuck, because NOTHING would had happened if kson didnt join Vshojo.

>>28083357
>t. EOP
She shit on corpos for being restrictive and abusive, and mused how she wanted to make her own some day that operated basically exactly like how VShojo does.

>>28083535
I love how you didn't blame Cover. Feel good to deepthroat corpo's cock?

>>28082641
Tell me it doesn't count when Vshojo skullfucks you faggot. I'm going to continue posting this in every thread I see that has retards pretending Vshojo isn't a corp. And I encourage any sane anon reading this to do the same.

>>28083566
>50 cents has been deposited to your Vshojo shill account.

>>28083608
>>27788394

>>28083627
>implying they get paid

>>28083582
Cover can't force Kanata to move, also she herself said she called Cover first to consult before deciding to move in order to "mitigate risks".

>>28083535
>she is my treasured friend and nothing will ever change that
>oh you advanced your career? see ya lol
>it's your fault for not stagnating forever
>I'm an angel by the way

>>28083628
I don't care what she called it. She's a lying whore who sold out and published a PR piece. I care what you shills call it. You are the tards shitting up the board with your nonsense.
>>28083582
Case in point.

>>28083582
>corpo's cock
like your hypocrite oshi? tatsucuks really coping hard trying to pretend she's not bending over for a corpo again after her whole creative freedom bullshit

>>28083608
Well since you repost this shit so am I. Because you're actually retarded or you just pretending?

she obviously meant they're not a vtuber company in the sense of hololive / nijisanji who own the vtubers' IP and control the content of the streams
of fucking course she knows they're a literal company, she even kept talking about the CEO in that very stream

she talked about character IP rights when she clarified that she owned her own character, and again, talking about the fucking chief operating officer multiple times clearly implies that they're a company to anyone with a quarter of a brain (which apparently excludes /vt/ autists hellbent on misinterpreting everything she says to paint her / her agency in the worst possible light)

She clearly doesn’t mean the Vshojo is isn’t a legal company but that it works more like a union where vtubers pay a percent of their earnings to gain access to a central source of tech, legal, and other support like a company might have. But vshojo doesn’t set boundaries to their work or try to restrict them in any way. It’s more like a partnership between two entities rather than a classic boss-salaried employee relationship.

>>28083608
Anon, it's all shit and giggles about muh freedom until they say something vshoujo doesn't like. And I'll be there laughing my ass off when it happens.

>>28083695
Funny how Ksonfags are all shittalking a disabled girl now just because she didn't want to join a company of whores even though Kson tried to force her hand by preparing an angel model.

Yes. Kanata refused the Vshojo next proposal by Kson. So she was replaced and the model designed for her got put on Mike.

She, firstly, refused. She choosed Hololive. Now she has to go.
There no more place for her in the creative freedom house!

>>28083535
t.

>>28083695
Why so mad cococuck? You oshi cant leech hololive anymore?

>>28083582
Whats Covers fault exactly?
Its a business. Of course they dont want their vtuber living with a vtuber from other company.
Do I really need to explain why thats a problem? This shit should be common knowledge.

>>28083774
Do you think Vshojo is an anarchist commune or something? Are you that retarded?

>>28083722
Still, sucking on the cover's dick huh? Let me remind you that they have been living together for two years.

>>28083535
Ah yes, just stagnate forever and limit your professional choices.

You guys are fucking retard, can't wait for more graduation until you retard wake the fuck up.

>>28083695
>its somehow Kanatas fault for Kson being a piece of shit who doesnt leave the house herself if she wants to join another company
Tatsucucks, ladies and gentlemen.

>>28081982
Larping as the filthiest, foulest, shittiest verming on the planet is something not even /vt/ should stoop low enough to do.

>>28083912
You sure love to suck Cover's dick huh?

>>28083912
HER FUCKING NAME IS ON THE FUCKING RENT CONTRACT YOU DUMB FUCKING NIGGER

>>28081982
Having eyes but not recognizing Mt. Tai. Many such cases.

>>28083770
>and the model designed for her got put on Mike.
We have confirmation that Mike was the one who designed Nazuna though.

>>28083608
For the last fucking time, it's a support network. Just because it's registered as a corporation doesn't mean it has to function as one. It's a support network for Vtubers.

>>28083912
It's literally Kson's apartment, she got it because her dad has a great job and is a cosigner.

>>28083722
>>28083608
>>28083715
You niggers really have no other arguments.
YES it is a company. It has to be from a legal standpoint. They're actively doing business.
NO it isn't a standard VTuber agency. They don't own the characters and aren't directly in charge of their careers.
This is the fucking difference. They are a company but they aren't a standard VTuber company like Hololive, Nijisanji, 774 or anything else.
It's financial and legal backing for those who are already established. The only exception is upcoming Nazuna and we all know who that is.
>>28083826
>there are only two possibilities which are polar opposites
Are you a mutt by any chance?

>>28083843
Based. Literally.
Fuck Kson, she's not throwing away years of hard work and a reputation. That angel themed model say everything we need to know about how much she felt pushed and how much she feeling replaced now.

>lets Kanata stay with Kson all this time
>has let Hololive girls collab with Vshojo
And somehow Cover would have a problem with Kson being in Vshojo? Get real, its the other JP member joining Vshojo and moving in with Kson that's got them on edge.

>>28083938
>Honoring contractual obligations
What are you some sort of bootlicker? I thought you tatsukeks hated contracts. She's doing a good thing.

>>28084027
It's been 5 mins you still deepthroating cover's dick?

>>28083992
>Boots I lick = good
>Boots you lick = bad
>Heh everyone I don't like is such a fucking bootlicker
Reddit is that way fag.

Kanata betrayed her long time friend for Holobucks
really simple really
I guess her "idol career" (good luck with that deaf bitch) was more important to her than friendship

>>28081982
The chiggers are always wrong

>>28083770
Why the unholy fuck would you want to use second hand model when somebody is willing to pay for one fully customized to your liking?

It's definitely MenheraCat being mentally ill creep.

I am just glad Kanata is living that whore`s house

>>28083959
So Mike asked for an angle themed design? That's only worse.
What a disperectful move. An Kson was ok with this...

>>28084010
>That angel themed model
That angel model was Mike's idea, nothing to do with Kson or Kanata. Silvervale said that Nazuna's VA designed Nazuna herself and was very excited to finally be able to design her own avatar. This was shortly after the jp branch announcement, before Kanata revealed that she's moving.

I don't think anyone in this thread has ever watched kanata or kson

>>28084215
no shit

>>28083608
You're hilarious bro. You literally don't know what the fuck vshojo does and yet you're still here pulling shit out of your ass.

>>28084088
>explaining the difference from a neutral point of view is now bootlicking
you're deepthroating the boot, actually.

beware of falsefags retars

>>28083761
Read
>>28083715
Then consider the following:

You know what the reality of Creative Freedom is? They either talk about their boyfriends or do reaction streams of Hololive content. They have NOTHING interesting to show for their lack of stream regulation. Why? Because the lack of regulations enables them to get away with the laziest content possible.

You know what the reality of owning your own model is? Vshojo doesn't pay for them in the first place so they never had a claim to begin with. Very honorable of them to let you own what you paid for. Cyberlive, on the other hand, tried paying for models and giving them to the talents. You know what happened there? The talents got poached, models included, and Cyberlive no longer exists. People have already tried this Great Idea your Lord and Savior had. It failed. Miserably.

Now that we have established this idea doesn't fucking work. I'll do you a solid and prophesize her next vision for you. A database of Vtuber Credits so that everyone can look at who was who and talents keep credit for the work they did even after leaving a company. We could call it VTDB and style it after IMDB. In other words a giant doxx sheet of past lives. Sounds perfect right?

>>28084119
Kanata probably earns reasonably decent salary, kson is making over a million a year. I think the only one doing it for money can be kson

Seanigger hours are the worst. Keep sucking ksons dick anons. I'm sure that will make you feel better.

>>28084282
keep talking to those voices in your head, schizo. It's funnier this way.

>>28083390
This is absolutely what happened. Why do you think kson went menhera after Kanata's stream...

>>28084244
this but unironically
keep seething tranny

>>28084282
you also count as SEA artiaflip

>>28081746
Based

>>28081982
good job, Ying

>>28082916
Rrat peddler, she was talking about moving out since before Golden Week.

>>28084332
I'm gmt -4 thankfully. I will never be a seanigger.

>>28084185
She designed before Kson asked her to join Vshojo and before Kson asked Kanata, too?
Because, otherwise, it worse. So malicious that's hard to believe

>>28084252
The fact that current vshojo "talents" do nothing at all with their freedom doesn't mean that kson won't. Going by her track record over the past year (and basically post-asacoco when she was still a holo), I severely doubt she will do anything interesting though.

>>28084215
Hasn't watched a single c*co or kson stream. I'm so glad that ksuck and tatsunocucks cant leech hololive anymore

>outfit reveal
>10k
LMAO

>>28084242
>I'm neutral
>Vshojo is the greatest not company ever by the way did you know they have talent freedom? Have I mentioned how great vshojo is and that they're DEFINITLY not a company except they are but not really. See Kson did join a company but she did not ACTUALLY JOIN a company. Have I mentioned that Vshojo is great. Vshojo is great.

>NOOOO you guys don't get it, kson is leading the freedom from corpos hell and she'll save her Holo friends, expecting Kanata to be joining her soon
>heh, actually joining another corpo is completely fine and Kanata is a whore for not going with her

>>28084252
>reaction streams of Hololive content.
I don't think I've ever seen Nyan put up holo content to react to, despite her being a big holo fan. There might have been a holo clip or 2 in her you laugh you lose stream when viewers could submit videos.

>>28084407
>do nothing at all with their freedom
Nyanners has done a few unique things like the "milking" stream. I must admit that I thought that stream wasn't very good, but it was unique and it was hilarious that so many normalfags in chat showed up and thought she would actually milk herself.

>>28083770
I almost wish this was true. The reality of >>28084180 is much nastier.

>>28084321
I love idol culture
parasocial relationships are fine
gfe is cancer
not all vtubers should be idols, there should be a diversity
unicorns are retarded and real unicorns are really rare anyways, most of them are LARPers

>>28081746
Jakarta

This really feels like WWF/WCW shit right now.

How long will Kson be able to withstand the menhera?

>>28084404
kson never asked kanata to join vshojo, stop believing everything you read

>>28084275
>Kanata probably earns reasonably decent salary,
6th largest superchat earnings in the world as of today

Mikeneko = Whore
Simple as.

>>28084619
majority of holos have gachikoi (literally in love) if you're literally in love of course you wouldn't want your girl to interact with m*le
the whole industry is built on parasocial relationships and everything else is cope
GFE is integral part of vtubing for majority of holos with only difference of degrees of intensity

I miss the times when the only people sperging at melody are the faggots from this obscure imageboard who think they're too cool for 4chan

>>28081922
>New yellow w/ purple circle
Can you fags stop adding random mental illnesses to the lgbt rainbow

why are people seething at my oshi again
she has nothing to do with vshoujo drama
leave her alone

>>28084412
lel its funny since back in the day kanata was the one accused of leeching of coco

>>28084425
Not a single bit of this was said by me.
You're swallowing the boot whole. You should swallow some meds instead.

>>28084856
>using buzzwords
opinion discarded

>>28081982
Post itt again and i will leak your entire extended family's personal info, chink.

>>28084707
Ok. She only asked Mike to join. Still she choose that design. Why? Totally by chance? Not cat, not Gothic Lolita, not whenever: angel...
Where I live we use to say: thinking malicious is a sin but often it is correct..

Disgusting

>>28084856
Majority of western guys are gachikois because even if they manage to get a gf she's just using them for betabucks and is really in love with Chad or Tyrone

>>28081982
No? If it wasnt for chinks this would have never happened.

>>28085230
I thought she left because of creative freedom

>falsefag saying that kson hates kanata
>falsefag saying that kanata hates kson
>they don't really hate each other and have a train ride planned for themselves by the end of the month.
you faggots give cringe

>>28085230
Eh she probably would've left eventually. The chink menace just sped things up on that front.

>>28085054
>Calling others bootlickers to defend another company

>>28085137
not disagreeing the design is malicious, but
>she choose that design
if you mean kson, there's no sign that she had anything to do with the design, and strong evidence that mike was the one who wanted it like that

>>28081982
>Are you finally going to admit that the chinese were right?

>>28085335
>Creative freedom
>Only thing she does that's different from coco is show her tits

>>28085450
No, not Kson. Mike. We can't know if Kson knew about before or she discovered when it was already done.

>>28082968
apparently they added a new mental illness to the official list

>>28083992
>>28084242
>>28085054
Don't use my wife to shill your whore company you fucking subhuman. Kys

>>28084658
>This really feels like WWF/WCW shit right now.
More like WWE/TNA-IMPACT

I can't believe you sea monkies used a day old tweet about weeks old info to make a ratt based entirely around a common as mud character theme among jp vtubers
you fucking schizos impress me more each and every day

>>28085365
what makes you think that?

>>28086175
the paypigs are here

>>28083582
You know how everything will be resolved?

Kson goes back to Holo.

>>28086606
That boat sailed a long time ago, anon.
Plus it's guaranteed the chink spamming would resume at it's normal flow if she did.

>>28086606
We don't want her, she can stay with the thots.

>>28086606
Kson is on a circle of Holo -> Indie -> Vshojo -> Holo
She will repeat this and collect allies until her true goal has been reached: The destruction of Nijisanji.

>>28086269
Management were already starting to clamp down on her more edgy content before the chinkout, it seemed like the chinkout only accelerated what management were otherwise already doing to her. I reckon she would've eventually arrived at a point where she felt it wasn't worth being a holo anymore but it would've taken longer to reach that point.

>>28083761
Dude, this is VT. But even if I understand her point, she basically trying her "indie" as branding. Probably because her entire brand is basically "breaking the rules" and indies is basically as revolutionary as freedom fighters.

This is good for Rushia. Hopefully living with KSON will help her mental health. Also I don't think she moved in with kson. I think this was just about her finally finishing unpacking at her place she moved into this summer. But for purposes of this thread let's just assume.

Also Kanata dumped KSON. Of course KSON can and should move on

>>28083992
>>28084242
>>28085054
Thanks for trying, yukiminsan...At this point though, I don't think posters ITT intend to ever take their meds. Half the IPs here are self-admitted dramafags looking for their next fix. At least they'll end up seething when their fanfiction doesn't come true
>>28084960
They're all delusional low-info rubbernecking EOPs who masturbate to videos of car crashes have nothing better to do but fish for (You) fueled dopamine. That's why they only just made this thread despite the tweet being a day old.

>>28083291
>despite them going on a trip literally few days ago, and planning new ones already
Damage control. You can't prove that they went together.

>>28086996
You can hear Kanata's voice in a video.

I follow mike the cat and i don't remember her saying absolutely anything about moving in with kson.
This could be completely unrelated bait.

>>28086520
Go back to your mud hutt onegai

>>28086730
If she could join nijisanji she would had done it in a heartbeat and you know it.

>>28087037
And? Recording.

>>28086784
it's a long shot to speculate that. i don't know. I think she would have stayed in holo.

>>28087132
damn, I didn't think about that

>>28082968
It's the noose

>>28087132
Youbknow, the worst part is that the posters on this board are so retarded that I can no longer simply assume you're shitposting
scary stuff

>>28083390
This makes much more sense than just Kson joining Vshojo

>>28087345
Yes. The problem wasn't never Kson joining Vshojo.
Imagine the sheer terror to stream for HL while her is in the same apartment. She could invade the stream whenever she wants...

KANATA THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE YOU
>An angel avatar that totally doesn't resemble Kanata
YEAH NO SHIT, I don't buy that shit this was always meant for Rushia the catgirl lover, I CAN'T UNSEE IT ANYMORE. THIS IS KANACOCO

Kson made this for Kanata and asked her to help her with her Vshojo branch but Kanata chose money over a friend. Kson had no option than to hand out the avatar to Rushia since anime Expo was near.

>>28088145
Real life twitch raid

Shitty baseless rrat, she's moving in with me

She's not moving in with kson retards.
The absolute state of catalogfags.

>>28088308
>>28088490
she's moving in with me
we already set up her room
which is also my room

>>28088271
Why would Kanata ever even consider joining vshojo though? She wants to be an idol and hololive can provide that for her. By leaving she'd be back at zero (all her songs are Amane Kanata songs and can't go with her) and she'd be in a company that doesn't care about idol stuff. Add to that her ear condition that potentially puts a limit on how long she can be a singer and there's no reason not to ride things out at hololive as long as she can.

>>28088271
Kanata said like a month after Coco graduated that if it came down to it she'd choose her idol career over her, that clearly didn't change

>>28088271
Ogey, but we have confirmation that Nazuna's VA designed Nazuna herself and Mike apparently asked her gachis a few vtuber design questions over the last months and the most popular answers (like white hair) just happen to be present in Nazuna. It seems Mike made Nazuna for her paypigs and the paypigs actually designed parts of Nazuna without knowing.

>>28088687
>Design by committee
No wonder it looks like shit

>>28088813
Well she wasn't asking you now was she

>>28088813
If the actual model looks anywhere close to how she looks in the poster then I actually think it's a really good design.

>>28088687
So you are saying that Mike asked her fanbase to design the perfect chuuba and they made Kanata? That's fucking hilarious.

>>28088976
Here's a higher res pic btw

>>28089078
I did say silver/white hair when she asked, and I do like angel designs. But I wasn't thinking of Kanata. Also, remember that kanata was a Fandead when she joined, so...

>>28083535
>t. least bootlicker holobro

>>28083608
>t. smartest holobro
KEK

>>28089078
Another fun trivia to know is that Rushia's basically Kanata's Hololive Oshi.

>>28089078
Kek

>>28088976
>>28089078
Nazuna's basically KanaTowa's kid.

So, Kanata time and time again was saying that she and Kson were soulmates and that they should have been friends in a past life. How they will stll remain together.
But then Kson decides to advance her career and then Kanata automatically leaves. I am will to be surprised if she decided to do that after having an emotional episode She seems to be a very emotional person.

But, hey, somehow Kson is the hypocrite here.

>>28089217
>>28089287
what is with vshojofags always screaming bootlicker while bootlicking vshojo?

>>28090169
>But, hey, somehow Kson is the hypocrite here.
"I will not join any other corpo, the only corpo for me is Hololive."
"I will not collab with males while streaming, streams are only for my fans."

>>28090169
The problem might actually be Mikeneko being her coworker, not Kson joining a new company.

>>28090169
well she did say she was not going to join another company. anyway her said soulmate chose another path so they are parting away, what's the problem exactly?

>>28082328
Kson said she made 100k a month in a recent interview

>>28090249
Humiliation fetish

CHINA I KNEEL

>>28081982
If they would leave hololive alone and focus on the person they supposed to be mad at, then sure, but they dont, because it was never about her

>>28086803
Kson broke her promise for not joining company, and she tried to spin the narrative by claiming Vshojo is not a company and she is still indie.
Kson is also put both "indie" and "Vshojo" (company name) in her twitter name. Some Tatsunokos were angered by this.

>>28089078
I will use this to shitpost

>>28090647

>>28090647
Dumbfuck, she literally said Vshojo is a company. Do you even watch stream?

>>28081982
China is good for noodles and buns. Not ideas.

>>28091103
..........Did you look at Kson's Twitter name

even once?

>>28091193
Yes she's an individual, she's not owned by Vshojo.

low quality garbage rrat thread gets over 200 posts
amazing

>>28091375
I mean independent, my brain's rotting from reading all this shit.

>>28088687
Why would Rushia ask for a whoreish design?
She always tried to keep a prude image

>>28091375
Dude...............jesus christ
You can't even differentiate character IP rights and indie
I gave up.

>>28091648
>She always tried to keep a prude image
t. never watched Rushia

Ironically or not Kanata is not only biggest idolfag in Cover but also an unicorn
I don't understand people who seriously think she would be better in Vshoujo

>>28081982
Yes

>>28084252
Maybe if Cyberlive was run competently, its talents wouldn't have gotten poached.

>>28091810
You can be an idol and pander to unicorns in vshojo, in fact Nazuna will probably do that. But you're right, people are just shitposting for (you)s. Nobody seriously thinks Kanata would leave.

>>28088271
Making a model custom built for Kanata before even asking her to join is too retarded even for Kson and Vshojo. I'm kinda surprised Mike is dropping the cat angle after so long, but this rrat is just too retarded.

>>28092190
Competence doesn't matter in the face of more money. Bigger companies have more money. Don't even try to argue a non-compete clause either because that would go against their entire idea of talent freedom to leave the company.

>>28089090
Hope that cunny gets some good porn.

>>28092391
Pander to unicorns, yes, but I doubt we will see any music production or 3d shit coming from Vshojo.

>>28092860
I think Rushia may push for it since she enjoys it and she'll have more than enough funds to pay for it

>>28092860
They all have 3d models and
>Melody
But yeah, no 3d idol concerts or big dance performances.

>>28093099
Yeah I know about their 3d models, but they just stream with them like anyone else on Twitch. I mean the big budget mocap stuff you see on HoloFes and the like. Even if all their future japanese talents wanted to go in that direction, I'm not sure it's compatible with their hands off approach.

>>28089078
>>28089725
I'll be forever grateful to cover for inventing angels and shorts

She's not moving in with kson stop with your shitty bait threads motherfucker, this is like the 5th time she's moved already in 3 months

>>28087270
Personally i been working on believing rrats. I realize that to make stronger rrats you need to believe previous rrats, so i convinced myself that rrats are actually factually true to be able to produce even better rrats.

>>28081746
Kanata is just leaking info to vshoujo, it's well known.

mikeneko is a ho

>>28094237
Yeah, mine.

>>28094237
Mikeneko is my wife

>>28081982
Never. They want to kill aqua fbk and chaama too

>>28081746
So Kson is Mikeneko's handler now?

>>28082916
Mike cat scared them shitless I see

>>28082328
>kson picks literally the only career move that can alienate Kanata
>Kanata is no longer safe in her own house because of kson's choices
>Kanata's career is interrupted for months because of kson's choices
>kson has a meltdown on twitter and membership because JP sphere sees it for exactly what it is: pure kson greed and selfishness
>goes and tries to salvage her member's loyalty by doing a <membership< stream, not a public stream, describing her "trip with Kanata"

Every choice kson made was wrong and selfish.
Even if we accept that joining VSJ was the right move for her, the bare minimum kson should have done was move out on her own, months ago.

>>28081746
Hear me out. Mikeneko is jealous of Kson and Kanata's friendship.
She hit her lowest point when she got kicked out of Hololive and it made it difficult for her to stay in contact with her friends that are still at the company. That's when Kson swept in, extended a hand in friendship, and even invited her to join Vshoujo. This obviously affected her deeply.
She chose a very Kanata-like model because she thinks it'll help her get closer to Kson, as she wants to become Kson's new Kanata.

>>28081820
Lesbians are notorious cheaters.

>>28097524
I can't believe kson made the pajama person go deaf

>>28098065
Anon, the drought in West Africa is Kson's fault.

>>28083992
Uh... Fatsonkeks?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtHSa9wldOY

>>28081746
Let's be honest, kson probably pressured mknk(or whoever it is) into using a kanata like avatar to help her cope.

This isn't the way to move on, kson.

>>28081982
>do everything in your company to wrong one of your biggest talents
>ignore her when she's at her lowest
>finally able to let her go
>more than a year passes
>talent decides to try another company
>tell the talent that still works for you to dump her OR ELSE

oh yes, the chinese were totally right

>>28089090
The only thing that is so weird to me is that she literally has IRyS' exact eyes. Obviously muh heterochromia is basically a standard thing, Just the fact that the eye color and placement is the exact same makes me wonder if there's an actual reason for the design choice that both artists followed

>>28081982
Yes

>>28097616
Actually, bro, she wants to clash clams with Kson. Then, the final end goal is a Melody getting spitroasted between two Japanese women on livestream to end the façade of seiso Vtubing.

>>28084010

>>28098404
At 1:50 Nyanners said she looks up to Nazuna. This just further confirms that Nazuna is definitely not some previously unknown 2view.

>>28092860
i can't wait for Nu-Rushia's idol concert in vr chat

>>28084252
>>28086803
Independent Talent - INDIE. The Talent owns the channel accounts and social media accounts. Owns the IP rights for the character and all the content created by the talent. The talent creations
and actions are INDEPENDENT from a 3rd party regardless of contracts/partnerships, as long the above stays true, otherwise the talent is no longer Indie for it will be dependent on the decision of an outside entity.

Corporate Talents - CORPO. The Talent does not own the channel accounts and social media accounts connected to the corporate and it's business. Does not own the IP rights for the character and all the content created by the talent within. The talent is an employee of the corporation and it's creations/actions are DEPENDENT on the decision of an outside entity.

>>28103629
That's just a definition you made on your own, anyways cyberlive exists or existed and makes all this nonsense irrelevant.

>>28083843
Kanata is such a fucking schizo that she'd leave immediately because she's scared of future rumors that will basically never happen lmao.

>>28103629
Making up your own definitions as a sort of "gotcha" is pretty pathetic. End of the day she lied when saying she wouldn't join another company. Pretending it doesn't count with Vshojo is your own cope and you can leave the rest of us out of it. Also, don't tag my post if you aren't going to address anything in it. At least pretend you are from here and know how to use the damn site.

>>28084252
Call it "rratfaxx"

>retards still believe Vshojo is company that owns vtubers
lmao keep it up retards.

>retard believes companies can only operate in one way

>>28083477
Did they try spamming Fubuki?

>>28081982
My dislike for Vshojo is overshadowed by my disgust and hatred for the chinese bugmen.

>>28104154
>cyberlive
Didn't they just change their name?

>>28104810
No idea, I wasn't even sure if they were even alive

>>28105089
They're called Aetheria now.

>>28105161
Do they still let talents to have ownership over their characters or did they abandon that retarded idea?

>>28081982

>>28104810
>>28105230
Cyberlive is straight up dead. The remaining talents formed an indie group called Aetheria, but there is no business aspect to it anymore. They don't even have a proper website, just a schedule.

>>28081982
Subhumans made my Mio sad, so no.

>>28081781
she's laundering money

>>28083628
> VShojo shills in charge of damage control

>>28083761
No one cares nigger, VShojofags don't get to call ANYONE else corpo bootlickers.

>>28083117
Kanata heavily implied she was, so it's a solid rrat.

>>28083582
> VShojofags calling other people corpo bootlickers

>>28083929
same shit, different company from you vsjfags

>>28083992
>YES it is a company
Then shut the fuck up and lick their boots, like every other tribalfag on this board.
Fucking hypocrites.

>>28084215
Kanata, yes.
Coco, hell yes.
KSon, no.

>>28084960
vsjfags are using every single "weapon" they can think of to attack Hololive, unfortunately including holomem as well.
retards don't even watch her.

>>28090249
YOU CANNOT

>>28093021
> Rushia
> The holo who had 3 songs in total over 3 years
> The holo who had less songs than fucking PEKORA

>>28104601
>>28104668
> doesn't deny it being a company
keep licking that boot

>>28083836
Pls anon have some decency and stop sucking gunrun's dick. Your oshi is a sell out and that's a fact. They sucked her pussy threw in some cash and she was willing to spread her legs.

>>28083900
>Graduation

She got fired

As a friend of the /vsj+/ thread I'd like to stop by and say that EN fans of the Holo JP scene are incredibly schizo. I am thoroughly impressed. It's a job to entertain as a streamer and the "rival" businesses that represent them aren't going to allow them to live together. I'm actually surprised it's lasted this long.

>>28092860
>music production
What holos call music is negligible most of the time. And neither kson nor mike is a musician. There are bigger problems to think about.

>>28083761
Since you seem to know alot, I need to know what will happen when thegunrun sells vshojo just like he did with twitch.

So why is it difficult for Vshojo fans/ Kson gumis to accept that Vshojo is a company? They are not like the JP companies but they are a company and does have a brand name.

>>28106936
Of course they are a company. It's a registered for profit business.

>>28083608
>jurisdiction and address are on opposite sides of the country
What the fuck?

>>28106936
It's a talent agency/tech company, it's not that complicated. It isn't a 360 degree management/development system like traditional idol creation.

>>28106936
You are attacking a strawman. They are a company, but with much more tolerant rules, and that's the point.

>>28106936
Speaking from someone who isn't any of those, but is trying to keep an open mind based on what I've seen so far: I don't think most of them DO have a problem accepting that. There is just a small contingent of twats from twitter constantly trying to stir up shit. They do that by rallying around the idea that Cover is an evil corporation, all the fans are "bootlickers", and they are trying to "fight the power" to rescue oppressed women from "idol culture sweatshop labor". Anything that would argue against this belief has to be ignored or waved off with "it doesn't count", because their real goal is stroking their own ego for "being on the side of justice". They don't have a genuine care in the world for the people they proclaim to be fighting for. Does this sound familiar? It should. We call them social justice warriors. The constant overuse of the word incel should have been a dead giveaway honestly.

>>28107198
Tax purposes. California is just about the worst on taxes in the country. Delaware on the other hand is basically a tax haven.

>>28107590
>trying to keep an open mind
Oh nice let's see what you believe
>"idol culture sweatshop labor"
And right from the start you're dead wrong just like most idiots here who can't differentiate between 2 very different topics: how a company treats vtubers, and the vtubers' content.
Idol culture / unicorn is the latter. Forced graduation and holding vtuber hostage is the former.

You don't have an open mind. You just have no mind at all.

>>28081982
The Han borg must be annihilated down to the last!

>>28081982
The chinese only hated her because they chimped out over taiwan, they're still wrong to attack not just her but tons of random holos who had nothing to do with it over that.

Hating her for idolizing utter white trash though, that's perfectly fine.

>>28081746
all out whore
lmao

>>28082328
>kanata ditches her "family" because she's afraid to read schizoposts on 5ch about her living with a "competitor"
Why did she live with the "competitor" for a full year before suddenly moving out now then? Kson was just as much a competitor as an indy as she is in Vshojo.

>>28081982
cover still stands even though coco is an ungrateful bitch

>>28107853
So your complaint is that I didn't say it like this?
>"Idol culture" and "sweatshop labor"
Because I don't actually *care* what your buzzword arguments are, I've been shooting them down all week and the only replies I get back are those telling me I'm sucking corporate cock or being a bootlicker incel. Many of which are right above us in this very thread. I'm simply stating you are SJWs campaigning against something you don't understand because it makes you feel good about yourself. When I said I was keeping an open mind it was towards the average Vshojo/kson fan. Not you people.

>>28081746
Meanwhile
Please pray for my tenshi, my poor sweet tenshi

>>28081746
Who knows, this might turn into a redemption arc. Two scrappy disgraced chubas, exiled from paradise, are now teaming up in an effort to restore their honor. It's not a bad plotline, and I hope they get the eleventh hour character development that redeems them in the eyes of the masses. Stories like that...are rather uplifting.

Can't believe Tatsunoko still living in your head for free. Take your meds. Tatsunoko already dead. Coco already gone.

>>28107853
So is Kanata being held hostage? By the evil corporation.

>>28108212
Serious answer: Kson didn't have a financial, and career-motivated, incentive to leak any information she obtains to a rival company before. She graduated on good terms with management and the door was left open for her to return if she ever wanted. In other words, she was trusted. Now it's a huge security risk. For both sides actually. Cover could use Kanata as a plant to steal information on Vshojo too. It's just better for all parties if they don't live together so they can't snoop through each others shit when the other person isn't home.

>>28108599
This tatsunokos doesn't exist now Kson gumi are vshojofags plan and simple.

>>28108212
Its easy to kill indie with lawyer. Now if the indie has company backing them is another story

>>28081746
disgusting

>>28108633
SJW logic says she's a woman so she's weak, frail and easily bullied. She can't make decisions for herself and needs to be rescued by others... Remind me again how this shit is considered woke instead of sexism?

>>28108331
Have fun fighting against imaginary strawmen. I'm not even against idol culture or for social justice. I just think you're a idiot who can't differentiate between topics because of /pol/ brain rot.

>>28090169
I think it’s an ‘amicable’ breakup. They’re acting like adults, nobody is losing their minds, they’re damage controlling with that trip of theirs… but you can’t have a choice this wildly divergent and expect a friendship to survive it long term. In a year’s time they will be, at best, polite acquaintances.

Of course though this is too tame for /vt/ dramaniggers, so I guess Kson sold Kanata out to the Vshojo crime ring and only a timely intervention by their god yagoo saved her from being processed into onions green, sure, why not.

>>28108633
>>28108894
It has nothing to do with that.
Kanata doesn't exist except as a foil to Coco in these people's narrow minds.
They have no idea how much she loves being Hololive, and everyone of her coworkers, and how carefully she always considers everyone's feelings, not just her own or even Kson. Anyone who watches her instantly realizes that it wouldn't take blackmail to make this decision, just a well worded argument and time to consider. She's just doing her best, trying to do right by everyone, which is why she's the one shouldering the burden of looking for a place to go, and we get another month without her.

>>28108958
I accept your concession. I'll keep fighting those "imaginary strawmen" that you can CTRL + F for right now in this very thread. Have a good day.

>>28097524
>kson picks literally the only career move that can alienate Kanata
Any move would have been ‘alienating’ except staying put and remaining stagnant. Cover management, much like Holo fans themselves, are bitter control freaks. Pleasing them is a fool’s effort, not to mention something Kson had no obligation to do. If you hadn’t turned on her because of this you’d have found some other excuse eventually, just like you do for every girl including the ones still in your company.

>>28109074
Eh. Both Rushia and Coco meant quite a bit to Kanata. I doubt she wouldn't fight even a little bit to try and maintain some relationship.
also somethingnto consider here is what else may have come up in the meeting. Everything from blacklisting collabs to banning her name might've been discussed and her agreeing to move may have been the move that she felt would preserve their friendship best

>>28109279
and other stories the voices inside my head told me

>>28109480
>collabs
I doubt Cover will ever let a Holo collab with Nazuna. I know Kson has done some stuff with roommates, but even she hasn't collabed with a "Holo" yet.

>>28081982
There could be a world war because of something the chinese warned us about and I'd still prefer that to admitting the chinese are right.

>>28089078
Fucking gold.

>>28108527
Or Kson might just go full Paradise Lost. I HAVE A DREAM...